1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Brian Curtiz and I'm Doug Krisner. Here 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: Well, Amazon's saying that revenue in the current quarter will 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: be one hundred and thirty eight to one hundred and 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: forty three billion dollars. That beat analyst projections of just 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: over one hundred and thirty eight billion. Amazon is optimistic 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: based on strong performance from its main e commerce business, 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: and this comes as the company has been investing heavily 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: in its logistics operations. We're here from Bloomberg's Punamgoyle. 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: They continue to invest in that fast and free shipping 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 3: and really speeding up those timelines. So I think the 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: margin story, more than on the retail side, is just able. 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: Also turning to growth and really driving up that profitability 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 3: to allow for other areas of investment is key here. 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that AWS revenue growth was twelve percent, and that 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: was higher than the expectation of ten percent got a 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: lot of attention. Amazon saying that the pace of growth 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: in its profitable cloud business did slow though over all 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: for a sixth straight quarter. However, Amazon has been ruling 20 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: out various products based on generative artificial intelligence, and the 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: company thinks the cloud business will ultimately benefit from this. 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: We've seen some pretty strong gains in after hours. At 23 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: the moment, Amazon is up nine point eight percent in 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 2: late trading. 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: We go to Apple next. After the bel the company 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,639 Speaker 1: reported sluggish iPhone sales for the third quarter. We're talking 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: about slippage in the vicinity of two point four percent. 28 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: Total revenue number here of thirty nine point seven billion. 29 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: I guess you could say that these results show the 30 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: iPhone may be suffering from a broader slump in the 31 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: smartphone market. But Bloomberg's anarag Rana tells us sales in 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: China will be important going forward. 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 4: It's about twenty percent of overall sales for Apple, and 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 4: you know, our analysts in Asia think that China is 35 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: going to be very strong this year because, as I said, 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 4: last year, because of COVID, they did not sell that 37 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 4: many phones there. And the rumor is that the Apple 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 4: lifehone fifteen, the Pro Max model with will have an 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: unbelievable camera and that really does help unit shipments in 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 4: China more than any other region. 41 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: That is Bloomberg's anaag Rana. Now we also should point 42 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: out that Apple reported gains and services that seemed to 43 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: be a bright spot in an otherwise lackluster quarter, and 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: it helped Apple deliver overall revenue of eighty one point 45 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: eight billion, just above analyst projections. Brian, Right now, I'm 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 1: looking at Apple shares down nearly two and a half 47 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: percent in the late US session. 48 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, tomorrow we'll be getting the US employment data 49 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: for the month of July. That comes at eight thirty 50 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: in the morning Wall Street Time. Let's get a preview 51 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: here from Bloomberg's Michael McKee. Will July be the month 52 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: the labor market finally slows? Fed officials have forecasts less hiring, 53 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: more unemployment, and smaller wage gains for some time, but 54 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: the monthly data have generally gone the other way. Economists 55 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: see only a slight drop in hiring for last month 56 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: and no change in the unemployment rate. Average hourly earnings gains, 57 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: though slowing, are still forecast to be rising at at 58 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: unsustainable pace, and inline forecast is likely to keep upward 59 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: pressure and interest rates. Weaker than expected numbers might bring 60 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: some relief, although the FED doesn't meet again until late September. 61 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: Michael McKee, Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 62 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of central banks, the Bank of England raised 63 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: its benchmark lending rate a quarter point today twenty five 64 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: basis points, so we have a new fifteen year high 65 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: at five and a quarter percent, and the BOE also 66 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: left the door open for further action if inflation persists. 67 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: Here's BOE Governor Andrew Bailey. 68 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 5: It's the last mile, which obviously where policy is. 69 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 4: Really doing the work. It's going to have to remain 70 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: restrict to have this effect of bringing inflation down, and 71 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 4: particularly next year. 72 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: That is Andrew Bailey, the Governor of the Bank of England. 73 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: He went on to say it's far too soon to 74 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: speculate about lower interest rates. UK policymakers have a labor 75 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: market and inflation report, both actually will be coming before 76 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: the next rate decision, and the BOE will next meet 77 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: on September twenty first. Brian Well to this part of 78 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: the world. 79 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: China is asking the public to inform on obstacles to 80 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: business in the private sector. We get the story from 81 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Joan Wong. 82 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 6: Here in Hong Kong, the government wants step offs on 83 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 6: everything from barriers to market entry, to unfair competition, local protectionism, 84 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 6: and arbitrary fines. Beijing will ask local officials to intervene 85 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 6: or send in supervision teams for more serious cases. This 86 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 6: is seen as China's latest show of concern for the 87 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,679 Speaker 6: inbattled private sector. The appeal comes as President Chijingping tries 88 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 6: to promote a more welcoming environment for the private sector. 89 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 6: The People's Bank of China also said it would ensure 90 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 6: the sector received the extra resources and needed to grow. 91 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 4: In Hong Kong. 92 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 6: Join Wang Bloomberg Day, Brigasia Doug. 93 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: I wanted to add to some of your comments about 94 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: looking at yields moving up like this, and I think 95 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: a lot of people asking the question why you mentioned 96 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: hot jobs. Others are talking about the Treasury issuance, the 97 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: Fitch warning, and also the Bank of Japan guiding yields. 98 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: But what isn't mentioned as much is that the consensus 99 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 2: now is moving away from recession and investors need less 100 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: of a hedge against their equity portfolio. We heard that 101 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: from Jim Karen on surveillance late last night my time. 102 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: He's one of the bond gurus over at Morgan Stanley, 103 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: and the big Acman point is that inflation will stay 104 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: higher for longer, and you know, if you put all 105 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: those things together, that must be six reasons there for 106 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: yields popping. We're at a yearly high for the tenure yield, 107 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: not quite over the four and a quarter we saw 108 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: last year in November, but prior to that, you have 109 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: to go all the way back to two thousand and 110 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: seven to get to these levels. 111 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: I think that's a very good point. Brian, Yeah, four 112 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: seventeen on the ten year and as long as we're 113 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: talking interest rates, and made this point earlier on the 114 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: other program that we kind of lead into or that 115 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: leads into us our show that China Central Bank may 116 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: cut the reserve requirement ratio for major banks as soon 117 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: as this month. This is really coming from a number 118 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: of analysts, but I'll cite CIDIC Securities pointing out that 119 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: there is a pretty much a large liquidity gap in 120 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: the month of August and because of that, and you're 121 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: dealing with this environment where there's going to be a 122 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: number of maturing loans coming through well, not only this month, 123 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: but the remainder of the year. Maybe it's incumbent upon 124 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: authorities to consider a possibility of a triple R cut 125 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: that can't be ruled out as a way of making 126 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: sure that banks have enough money to lend. 127 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're in the point now, we're at the 128 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: point where investors are really kind of in a show 129 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: me story, So that would be one thing. They need 130 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: a lot of things, and they need to see some 131 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: performance and some change. We got a little bit of 132 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: change from the taishin services data yesterday came in pretty solid, 133 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: and that helped restore a little bit of optimism which 134 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: obviously had been fading a quick point. Amazon investors pretty 135 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: impressed there with that. I think the cloud revenue ticking 136 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 2: up a little sort of stops that decline after quarter. 137 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 2: But the Apple story not impressed, particularly with China. I 138 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: think we sort of knew that given what Qualcom delivered yesterday. 139 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: All right, now it's time for Global News. Donald Trump 140 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: has pleaded not guilty to charges that he conspired to 141 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: obstruct the twenty twenty two, or rather the twenty twenty 142 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: presidential election. Head backs to with Global News in San Francisco. 143 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 7: Ed, yeah, as well, Brian as conspiring to interfere with 144 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 7: the voting rights of millions of Americans. Now, as plea 145 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 7: came in his arraignment in which he was advised of 146 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 7: the counts against him, This is just the latest now, 147 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 7: but maybe the most serious of the cases lined up 148 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 7: against him. Three active, one expected in Georgia, not a 149 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 7: federal case in which voting interference charges are expected to 150 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 7: drop as well. Bloomberg Kaylee Lyons has been outside the 151 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 7: courtroom today. 152 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 8: It should be four cases that the former president is fighting. 153 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 8: The New York trial set for marshap next year. The 154 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 8: Florida trial in May of twenty twenty four will have 155 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 8: to wait for the trials on this one. But Jack Smith, 156 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 8: a special counsel who's office brought the chargers, said they 157 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 8: would like it to be speedy. 158 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 7: Now the judge has set the hearing for the June 159 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 7: twenty eighth, where Judge Tanya Chutkin intends to set a 160 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 7: drial date. Judge Shutkin and an Obama nominee who has 161 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 7: ruled against Trump motions in the past. Now, Trump did 162 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 7: comment to the media pool as he left of the 163 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 7: Reagan Airport with the same drumbey. 164 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 8: This is a persecution of a political opponent. 165 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 4: This was never supposed to happen in America. 166 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, the judge has set the next hearing for the 167 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 7: twenty eighth. The Republican candidate will heard Bloomberg sound On 168 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 7: says Trump is no longer running for America. 169 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 9: He's a bully, he's a liar, and he's only running 170 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 9: in order to stay out of prison. And what's even 171 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 9: crazier is that he is using, you know, hard working Americans' 172 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 9: dollars to fund his illegal bills. Right, He's allegedly a billionaire, 173 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 9: but he can't pay his own legal bills. 174 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 7: And to Herd's point, the pro Trump pack reported in 175 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 7: the week that it had spent most all of its 176 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 7: campaign fundraising money in legal defense. Two US Navy sailors 177 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 7: have been arrested on charges of providing sensitive US military 178 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 7: information to China. The Justice Department calls it a relentless 179 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 7: effort by China to gain US secrets. It says China 180 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 7: paid for the information. The US Attorney for the Southern 181 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 7: District of California, Randy Grossman, says these are very serious charges. 182 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 5: Statutes reserved for the most serious circumstances involving the passage 183 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 5: of national defense information intended to harm the United States 184 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 5: or for the benefit of a foreign power. The fact 185 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 5: that we've charged it in this case in San Diego 186 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 5: is a reflection of the seriousness of ways alleged conduct. 187 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 7: Now both men are Chinese born naturalized US citizens. One, 188 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 7: it is alleged, was paid thousand dollars for information on 189 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 7: vulnerabilities of ships, of photos of military hardware, and scores 190 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 7: of technical manuals. DOJ says this places lives of military 191 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 7: personnel at risk and weekends US Security Global News powered 192 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 7: by more than twenty seven hundred journalists and and list 193 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 7: in over one hundred and twenty countries. In San Francisco, 194 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 7: I'm Ed Baxter, and this is Bloomberg. 195 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. I'm Brian Curtis, along with 196 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: Doug Krisner. Ushad Salamat is on TV assignment this hour. 197 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: Our guinst is Carol Pepper, founder and CEO at Pepper International. 198 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: I would note that Amazon is now up more than 199 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: ten percent in late trading after its earnings, and Carol, 200 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: you say a tech boom is coming. I would counter 201 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: that just a little bit, with yields drifting higher like 202 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: this is definitely cutting in to a certain extent on 203 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: some of the gains in big tech. Microsoft, for instance, 204 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: even after an impressive earnings report, is down since that period. 205 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: Your thoughts on where tech goes from here. 206 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 10: Yes, well, I think tech has a nice long run 207 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,119 Speaker 10: ahead of it because we've got some very large sacular 208 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 10: trends that are going to continue to play out. So 209 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 10: every industry is going to be affected by artificial intelligence 210 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 10: that it's going to have to do some sort of 211 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 10: an upgrade. We've also seen that companies corporations have stopped, 212 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 10: you know, sort of just doing stock buybacks and are 213 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 10: reinvesting in technology and capital for the companies understanding that 214 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 10: they need to get ready for this next evolution because 215 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 10: robots and technology, frankly are going. 216 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 2: To the gains. I think the question is all the 217 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: gains already in No, not at all. 218 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 10: We're just at the beginning. This is just starting. We've 219 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 10: got a ten year run here. You recall I manage 220 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 10: money for people that have family offices over one hundred 221 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 10: million dollars. So we're always thinking about what are the 222 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 10: long term trends that we need to be part of. 223 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 10: And so this new push on AI, with the fact 224 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 10: that it's finally getting released and integrated into all kinds 225 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 10: of businesses, means we're just at the start of a 226 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 10: new secular trend in technology. The same with cybersecurity. We've 227 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 10: talked about that. You know that cybersecurity, which is also 228 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 10: an aspect of technology, will continue to have to be 229 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 10: a strong area of investment globally for all these corporations. 230 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 10: So I like to find long term trends that are 231 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 10: going to last for a long time. And it doesn't 232 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 10: matter if fields or up or down this month or 233 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 10: for six months. We're talking about how do you make 234 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 10: money over ten years. I mean, you look at Microsoft. 235 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 10: My goodness, if you had invested in that company, you know, 236 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 10: twenty years ago, you would have been up to almost 237 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 10: twenty nineteen hundred percent. So you have to look about 238 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 10: look at that nineteen hundred percent over twenty years. 239 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: Brian and I were talking earlier, Caroll. 240 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 10: On your time horizon. Your time horizon is key. 241 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: We were talking a moment ago about how the bond 242 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: market seems to be repricing under our scenario for a 243 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: soft landing. I mean that kind of supports a little 244 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: bit the growth story that you seem to be laying out. 245 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: But you don't. You're not bothered by the notion that 246 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: we could get a you know, four to twenty five, 247 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: let's say, on the ten uere but for how. 248 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 10: Long this is the question. If the soft landing happens right, 249 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 10: then sentiment shift. Remember also, August is always a funky month. 250 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 10: Half the traders are on vacation, there's not a lot 251 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 10: of volume in the market, and small pieces of news 252 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 10: move things around quickly, and so I think you get 253 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 10: a better indication of where yields are going to end 254 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 10: up in another month and a half after September fifteenth. 255 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 10: You know, you don't really want to go crazy about 256 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 10: what the market is indicating in August. It's never accurate. 257 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: Carol, I think many would agree with you about the 258 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: future prospects for these companies. There's not really too much 259 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: doubt about that. But the question, and the reason I 260 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: butted in before was the example of Microsoft, is that 261 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: the stock gained so much that investors are sort of 262 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: backing away as they are starting to sort of back 263 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: away a little bit from Apple. So it definitely is 264 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 2: show me new with new business, with new gains, and 265 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: that's the part that maybe just takes some time. I'm 266 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: not sure that these companies are monetizing AI at the moment, 267 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: so we have to be concerned about the big gains 268 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: in the stock prize. 269 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 10: Well, look at Amazon, for example. The problem with these companies. 270 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 10: A lot of these big companies in technology, they'll have 271 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 10: a huge run up and then they'll go flat for 272 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 10: a year or two, and then they might go down 273 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 10: a bit, and then suddenly they'll have another run. So 274 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 10: Amazon from last year to now is up almost fifty percent. 275 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 10: If you had been out of Amazon and not sure 276 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 10: when the run was going to happen, you would have 277 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 10: missed that fifty percent gain. People may say, well, fifty percent, 278 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 10: that's it. 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