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Speaker 7: It is Thursday, October ninth, twenty twenty five, season twenty one,

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Speaker 7: episode number fifty four. Welcome to latest edition of The Break,

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Speaker 2: So that's what we do here on the Break.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm always thinking, Well, Derek, let me

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Speaker 4: get away with that. That's something I'm always thinking yeah,

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Speaker 4: bro let me how.

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Speaker 8: Many times have you been late and we're sitting here

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Speaker 5: Some people are and I was on a work call

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Speaker 5: by the way. Some people that's fine. Some people aren't

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Speaker 5: allowed to be late.

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Speaker 2: So let me be clear.

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Speaker 7: Are you asking if it will be okay if you're late?

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Speaker 7: Are you asking if it will be okay if you

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Speaker 7: had a dance break in the middle of the intro?

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Speaker 5: Both, I can't walk in dancing.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me just say say this.

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Speaker 7: I'm good for ratings, So whatever brings ratings. If you

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Speaker 7: if dancing, if you're getting up right now and getting

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Speaker 7: in the camera and dancing brings us ratings, I would be.

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Speaker 4: Like, I'm not going to paint my face, put a

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Speaker 4: red nose on. Bring numbers, Bring numbers, and bring me

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Speaker 4: see what they do for views. You living at YouTube world,

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Speaker 4: you know I gotta do what you gotta do.

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Speaker 5: This ain't no nose on it, right.

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Speaker 2: That's facts, all right.

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Speaker 3: I would do it if it got numbers.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't, Brian, absolutely would.

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Speaker 3: I dressed like Ben Franklin one time for numbers? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: You did you know what I'm.

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Speaker 8: For you to come in here dressed up.

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Speaker 3: As a lady was missus doubtfire.

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Speaker 2: Remember, yes, I remember.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, That's why I hate the most notes, Like like like,

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Speaker 4: if I'm researching the topic, I say, man, I'm about

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Speaker 4: to break down the best film I've ever done. But

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Speaker 4: I saw something on film that's gonna make us look smart.

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Speaker 4: I may get a thousand views on that video, but

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Speaker 4: something goofy right, crazy.

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Speaker 3: Go crazy, fall down in the Avis parking lot, people

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Speaker 3: being all live, and then you fall down, and then

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Speaker 3: yeah you get a million views.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, falling down, That's how it goes. All right, here's

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Speaker 2: what I want to do today.

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Speaker 7: Today We're going to get into the Carolina defense versus

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Speaker 7: Dallas offense with that in the second segment. Before we

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Speaker 7: get there, though, I wanted to have a conversation about

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Speaker 7: these running backs. Interesting matchup this week when you talk

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Speaker 7: about ric O'dowdell and you talk about Javonte Williams. Last offseason,

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Speaker 7: Dallas opted to sign Javonte Williams as opposed to re

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Speaker 7: signing ric o'dwell. Rico'dowell goes to Carolina gets a one year,

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Speaker 7: two point seventy five million dollar deal. Williams signed here

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Speaker 4: So you want me to talk about this with hindsight

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Speaker 4: that Williams is healthy now and he's who he is,

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Speaker 5: I didn't think we're all there great.

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Speaker 5: Complete guy to me.

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Speaker 4: He was a fantastic blocker, and you know, Rico caught

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Speaker 4: But if you watch, you know Carolina take like they

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Speaker 4: here no more. There was plenty times where we felt

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Speaker 4: like Rico just wasn't doing enough to be that dude. Also,

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Speaker 4: what I think probably played a play, a play a

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Speaker 8: Talk about somebody that's no longer here. You throw a

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Speaker 4: Believe you believe, let me tell you I working with.

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Speaker 4: But also, like if I had to guess what the

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Speaker 3: I'd like to have seen him in this scheme.

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Speaker 2: It would have been fun for getting into my next question.

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Speaker 3: I would have liked to have seen him. Okay, well,

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Speaker 3: I think Williams is a little bit better in that regard.

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Speaker 4: Do you think Williams's patience works better with this? With

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Speaker 3: Vision's probably better. I think I think that you talk

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Speaker 3: He has an understanding where the fits are, how he

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Speaker 3: I think it's I guess the word would be cerebral,

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Speaker 3: Where I think Rico was a taken and go guy.

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Speaker 4: You know it's on that big run last week, you

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Speaker 4: say Rico breakout and he'll get cardon miller of the

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Speaker 4: of the well that man ran to.

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Speaker 3: The sidelines and pulled the ball away, worrying that someone

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Speaker 3: it has it happened in the Chicago game.

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Speaker 2: I will say this.

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Speaker 7: We do a video piece here called what had Happened,

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Speaker 7: and we typically will take an iPad to a player

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Speaker 7: and we say, okay, tell us what happened on this play,

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Speaker 2: And we did it this week with with Cavante.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm sorry with Javonte, and he laid out

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Speaker 2: He was like, I knew it was a big play

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Speaker 7: And he said, as soon as I saw that, and

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Speaker 7: Now, I didn't realized I was gonna get caught. And

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Speaker 7: y'all gotta give me a little bit of grace on

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Speaker 7: But I knew it was a big play at that moment,

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Speaker 7: and it goes to your point, Brian, like he really

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Speaker 2: I think that's really you were right. I make a

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Speaker 2: lot of those, but no, I think that that's.

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Speaker 7: A great point that he he he does have a vision.

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Speaker 7: He has great vision and sees the plays happening even

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Speaker 2: And I think that's a part of why.

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Speaker 7: I think patience is the part that when you can

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Speaker 4: Rico ran into a lot of defenders sometimes too, was

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Speaker 4: he ran the darkness like trying to be physical. He'll

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Speaker 4: just run into guys on ounce off, which is different

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Speaker 4: now he's physical and run guys over. I would see

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Speaker 4: Rico just run right into a three tick that's getting

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Speaker 7: So now go to that point. Do you think that

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Speaker 7: going to keep Rico, do you think right now we'd

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Speaker 7: be looking at Rico saying, man, Rico's playing like one

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Speaker 7: of the best running backs in.

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Speaker 2: The league because this game is just so good.

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Speaker 8: But I don't like to live in the past. I

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Speaker 8: like to live in the present and look at the future. Okay, no,

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Speaker 8: because if we're playing that game, it's like, oh, I

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Speaker 8: We missed on that.

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Speaker 5: Want some super bowls? Them in de Marco.

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Speaker 8: Wow, you choosing to be sad? You can't do nothing

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Speaker 3: But he did, he did catch us standing round.

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Speaker 2: He got it. But if they had called it a catch.

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Speaker 3: They were to beat Seattle. Yeah, the year a plice.

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Speaker 7: But you got do you guys think that it would

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Speaker 4: Think they Okay, I thought some guys. Rico would still

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Speaker 4: they said, hey, y'all, Rico, ric O'donald's sick, y'all, and

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Speaker 5: I'm curious, past administration.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you're looking at him and not me.

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Speaker 3: This Okay, yeah, I know, I see you say. Here's

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Speaker 3: here's my next next trick. Here, get Blue going like this?

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Speaker 8: That's what I was gonna say. I'm interested to see.

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Speaker 3: I'm not interested in the past.

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Speaker 8: About the past. We're talking about Blue. Is he in

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Speaker 3: I'm just kidding you.

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Speaker 8: Go ahead what I was gonna say, And sorry to

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Speaker 3: You're right, If all of a sudden you don't see

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Speaker 3: But man, I'd love to see Blue. I'd love to

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm interested to see. And Brian, you'll you'll remember this.

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Speaker 7: just so hard to defend. They had, you know, it

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Speaker 7: Like they could plug anybody in, and they could plug

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Speaker 7: And it was because the scheme was so good. And

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Speaker 7: I do wonder obviously it's very early, but I will

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Speaker 7: it is starting to make me think the scheme is

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Speaker 7: just a scheme that maybe it is agnostic to whoever

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Speaker 7: the running back is. You're going to have better success

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Speaker 3: I think this scheme it doesn't make your linemen have

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Speaker 3: I think they take advantage of the athletic ability. They're

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Speaker 3: not asking anybody just now when they have to get

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Speaker 3: of angles, it's a double team, it's pullers, it's it's

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Speaker 3: a really good offense. That doesn't make if your offensive

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Speaker 3: still is not a hammer you off the ball guy.

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Speaker 3: Neither is geton hammer you off the ball guy. Booker

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Speaker 3: So it's really a good combination of they've learned who

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Speaker 4: Also, to just be clear, Williams was the second round pick.

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Speaker 4: I believe like that. So like that's still like a

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Speaker 3: You taught me something. Oh a cross Ky Merrit America play. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you watch cross Ky Merrit play and then we'll see

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Speaker 3: that's a back that was taken very very late. It

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Speaker 3: probably should have been taken to the third round. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's these backs. It was a it was a litanyam.

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Speaker 3: There was a ton of them, blue And I give you,

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Speaker 3: I give you credit. You said, no, go get this cat.

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Speaker 3: You try to get that guy. But that's sometimes you do.

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Speaker 3: They sometimes these teams do miss on backs. They sometimes

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Speaker 4: is a strange lady, they are. I think they got

444
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Speaker 4: corners that are pretty solid. Yes, you know, when I

445
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,679
Speaker 4: was watching my whole life, they've always been.

446
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Speaker 3: Like man guys about that.

447
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 4: But they but they run a bunch of on If

448
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 4: you think about JC and Mike when they were in college,

449
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,679
Speaker 4: they were mostly you know, man up on guys. But

450
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 4: they run a whole bunch of zone over there. And

451
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,399
Speaker 4: you know, they kind of deal with a lot of

452
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Speaker 4: these passing concepts, like assuming that they can block things

453
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Speaker 4: up front or that things can't get blocked up upfront,

454
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,679
Speaker 4: and they get some good pressure going. They don't always

455
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 4: get pressure going though, broad so, uh you they don't

456
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,360
Speaker 4: get a good opportunity to utilize their coverage abilities, Brian,

457
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 4: if you look up deep attempts on them, because that's

458
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Speaker 4: one thing I always do is see where the chunk

459
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 4: yards coming from, the big plays coming frost, and I

460
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 4: see a lot of attempts on them. They don't really

461
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 4: they don't really complete them here. So I'm like, man,

462
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,680
Speaker 4: where's all the for the lack of better words, where's

463
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 4: all the ass whoop coming from? When they put points

464
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 4: on Carolina and it's all coming from it's always in

465
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Speaker 4: the intermediate Ambargarcia, Thank you very much. It's a it's

466
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Speaker 4: always she's paying attention. It's always in that middle. Is

467
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 4: always short game. But more importantly, if you could deal

468
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 4: because they're an interesting group of guys. You know, they

469
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 4: got two D D tackles that can deal with the

470
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 4: run really well. But if you can block those dudes,

471
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 4: nobody else wants to tackle anybody. So if you're looking

472
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 4: for a way to get them, it may not be

473
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Speaker 4: chunk yardage in the air early. Maybe later you can

474
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Speaker 4: figure something out. Maybe you can hit some over the middle,

475
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 4: middle and then get yak yardis. But if you really

476
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 4: want to beat the hell out of the Panthers here,

477
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 4: you just run the football constantly.

478
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they used to have a Frankie Luvu who's now

479
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 3: playing with the Commanders. You know, Frankie was a guy

480
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 3: that could really attack the line of scrimmage, can run

481
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Speaker 3: through gaps, sideline, the sideline. We always talk about those

482
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Speaker 3: guys that make a lot of players, and we've seen

483
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Speaker 3: them at the Commanders make those plays. I's just right

484
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 3: again about these cornerbacks though, and so we're both in

485
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Speaker 3: where but what's different about these corners? Last week you

486
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Speaker 3: saw a traveler. You saw a traveler with sauce garter.

487
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 3: This time around, though, you will see a guy that

488
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Speaker 3: plays to the short side of the field and Jerry Madaline,

489
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Speaker 3: I'm doing this for you right now, but these are

490
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Speaker 3: boundary He plays as a boundary corner. And we're talking

491
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Speaker 3: about j C. Horn. He's one of the better corners

492
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Speaker 3: in the league. But when he plays is the boundary corner.

493
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Speaker 3: The boundary corner is usually to the side of the

494
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Speaker 3: HASH that's near the sideline. So if the ball is

495
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Speaker 3: on the right hash, the boundary would be to the

496
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Speaker 3: defense's left, So he plays that side of the field,

497
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Speaker 3: and then on the other side, you're going to get

498
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Speaker 3: what we call the field corner, and so more grass

499
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Speaker 3: to cover over there. So in pro football that the

500
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Speaker 3: hashes are kind of close there. It's not as bad

501
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Speaker 3: as what you see in college football with him being

502
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Speaker 3: a part and then so you're more having to cover

503
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Speaker 3: more ground. But in the pros a little bit sure,

504
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Speaker 3: But the boundary corner, usually those guys will play to

505
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Speaker 3: that side and they'll use the sideline to help them. Well,

506
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Speaker 3: I'll just right again about this. This team plays a

507
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Speaker 3: lot of his own coverage. Well, I'm just saying that's

508
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Speaker 3: what he says. I'm acknowledging him on this because they

509
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 3: do play a lot of his own coverage. They play

510
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Speaker 3: just as much zone coverage as the Cowboys do, and

511
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Speaker 3: they're going to play They're gonna play it. It's seven

512
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 3: yards depth is what they're gonna do. So you're gonna

513
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 3: you're gonna sit there and you're gonna have guys that

514
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 3: playing with seven yards off, so you're gonna have space

515
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 3: in front, and then also in the slot. They play

516
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 3: at about five yards, so you're gonna get zone coverage

517
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Speaker 3: with some depths. So here are your slants, Here your

518
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 3: inbreaking routes. You know, here are the things that you

519
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 3: want to do. Now if you want to if you

520
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Speaker 3: even want to do this, and if you want to

521
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Speaker 3: run the ball, say you want to run the ball

522
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Speaker 3: on the outside. We talked about the Cowboys running game

523
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 3: a little bit earlier in what Williams could do. But

524
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Speaker 3: if you want to get it on the outside, you

525
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 3: got a corner over there, a horn that's really not

526
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 3: interested in tackling. He will try, but he's really not.

527
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Speaker 3: So you can understand that if you can set your

528
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 3: formation to where he's going to play into the boundary

529
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Speaker 3: and then you put bigger bodies over that side and

530
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Speaker 3: just mash that edge and then make him have to

531
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Speaker 3: to have to come up and defend. That's a little

532
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 3: bit of a problem for him. So Dallas will hopefully

533
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Speaker 3: be able to take some advantage of that.

534
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Speaker 7: Not to get too much to the like the football

535
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Speaker 7: side of that the analysis, but I do want to know, like,

536
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Speaker 7: why why do teams make the decision on a boundary

537
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Speaker 7: corner versus a field corner and who goes on which side?

538
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Speaker 7: Because my initial thought as you were saying that was

539
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Speaker 7: I thought J. C. Horn was one of the best

540
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Speaker 7: corners in the league. You would think if you got

541
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Speaker 7: a side it's got more grass to cover, you put

542
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Speaker 7: your best guy on that side. To hear that he's

543
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Speaker 7: a boundary corner. What would be the thought process and

544
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Speaker 7: put making him the boundary corner.

545
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Speaker 5: Some guys deal with certain routes better.

546
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Speaker 4: So if you're on the boundary side, which is less field,

547
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 4: it's a lot more narrow over there. So you're talking

548
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 4: about corner rats, you're talking about deep balls.

549
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Speaker 2: So it's about the routes that he can cover well.

550
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Speaker 4: As opposed to a guy like like Mike Mike Jackson,

551
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Speaker 4: who can move quicker, maybe faster slants. You got a

552
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Speaker 4: lot more room on crossing routes, breaking in routes, and

553
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 4: maybe you don't want j. C. Horn having to cross

554
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 4: the field on somebody right now, if it's I'm dealing

555
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 4: with a bigger receiver or something like that. Jac's really

556
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Speaker 4: good at that working backwards versus bigger guys. If he

557
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 4: has to play square and work in both directions, that

558
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 4: may not be his game. Same thing with like nickel guys.

559
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 4: If you're in the nickel you're more in the middle

560
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 4: of the formation, So now you have to be a

561
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 4: guy that has better hips to work outside, inside, deeper,

562
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 4: all those things. So yeah, he's a he's a guy

563
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 4: that is a good corner, but to you know your

564
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 4: point there, maybe you wouldn't call him one of the

565
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Speaker 4: absolute best corners because he's not a guy that plays

566
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Speaker 4: there's limitations.

567
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was taking one spot after Patrick shirt Tanner

568
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 3: right who was And.

569
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Speaker 7: It was suspected that Dallas, like both of those players

570
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Speaker 7: that was in the in the Michael Parsons dract coach.

571
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Speaker 3: The coaches really liked Horn. Mike McCarthy coached his dad

572
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Speaker 3: in New Orleans, and so they had to understanding. The

573
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Speaker 3: scouts will tell you, Sir Tan was more ready to

574
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 3: play what it was, kind of buttoned up, wouldn't take chances.

575
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: Horn is A was a chance taker and that's wait.

576
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Speaker 7: That was his dad receiver from Wall. So so both

577
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 7: of those players, their dad's played the NF and they.

578
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Speaker 3: Were taking right after the other.

579
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love to do favors for people that he knows.

580
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Speaker 2: You ain't got no love for Mike, do you?

581
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Speaker 8: I love?

582
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Speaker 4: I love Mia McCarthy. May we want a bunch of

583
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 4: games man. He had glaring, glaring issues to your point, though,

584
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 4: Brian bros. With this whole with this whole run game stuff,

585
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Speaker 4: I just encourage everybody to play a good old game

586
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 4: of what if with this Dolphins game, because I just

587
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 4: think they came out there with a weird, you know,

588
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 4: with a weird approach to it. They didn't get to

589
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 4: the linebackers very well. The lineman didn't they didn't climb

590
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 4: to the next level very much. And when you see

591
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 4: that Carolina, they didn't give up a bunch of big

592
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 4: runs because of that. Right, But all these other games, right, yeah,

593
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 4: the majority of the games, right, these linebackers don't really

594
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 4: want to get backed at all.

595
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Speaker 3: This was this was a really strange game when you

596
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 3: watch the tape and you can kind of put while

597
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 3: and rose bum Yeah, you put them all together and

598
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 3: the Dolphins that had no explosive runs. It was really

599
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 3: and then it's funny this defense. You go back and

600
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 3: look and they played I was thinking why against the

601
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Speaker 3: Colonels And it might have to do with play against

602
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. They played a bunch of just bass and

603
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: I mean just the normal personnel. Maybe it's having to

604
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: deal with Kyler Murray and all that. So we'll see,

605
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: you know, they Dallas has got to the Panthers got

606
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 3: to figure out something here. Is that they've got guys

607
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: in the secondary and Warrig I think is a good

608
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 3: player that they got from the Raiders and he plays

609
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 3: down a lot in the box. But what they have

610
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 3: to figure out is how do they want to in

611
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: this game? How do they want to treat because you

612
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 3: don't have a traveler, so you're gonna get You're gonna

613
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 3: get pickings, You're gonna get him to kind of he

614
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 3: saw him move last week. He was he was switching

615
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: to the left and the right and some of the stuff.

616
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: But how are they going to play against Jake Ferguson. Now,

617
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: the great thing is that you had some guys show

618
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: up last week. So if all of a sudden, Tolbert

619
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: didn't show up and Flinoy didn't show up, then all

620
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Speaker 3: of a sudden, now it's like, we don't have to

621
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Speaker 3: worry about that. We're we're you know, now you have

622
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 3: to now you have to at least account for those guys.

623
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Speaker 3: So Carolina is going to have to account for your

624
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 3: tight end, and they're gonna have to account for Flinoy,

625
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 3: and they're gonna likely they're gonna for sure have to

626
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 3: account for Pickens. How much is that going to allow?

627
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: They play a lot of single high safety in the

628
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 3: middle of the field, everybody take a third and try

629
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: and help in the running game with with the with

630
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: the safety. So how are they going to How they're

631
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: going to treat Jake Ferguson I think will be really

632
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 3: really key for them in this game.

633
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 4: All right, But you know, Brian, something that was interesting

634
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 4: real fair. You remember we're watching college film on Lathan Ransom. Yes,

635
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 4: from Ohio State. You know, we always thought he was

636
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: a guy that was very physical he had like a

637
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 4: thumpy tackle he guy, but he wasn't a guy that

638
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 4: I would want playing deep or you know, playing a

639
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 4: whole bunch of coverage and stuff. Watching watching their film,

640
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 4: he does play deep a bunch and our guy Morig,

641
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: who I would assume would play more deep.

642
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 5: But Morgan is the.

643
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: Ex They like him like he's done. He's a if

644
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: you if you look at him from where he was

645
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: with the Raiders, sure that's kind of where he made

646
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: his living was everything was if you play a lot

647
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: of that cover three, that single high safety. He was

648
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 3: a guy that was always going to be down and

649
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: like he was a very very sure tackler down there.

650
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: People like that about him when he signed.

651
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 4: Just based on college knowledge. That might be a segment,

652
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 4: just based on college knowledge. I might try to throw

653
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: a deep on Ransom just to see if ye, just

654
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 4: to see yes, to see all right.

655
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 7: We're gonna take our final break. We'll come back into

656
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 7: a little shining star falling. So I got some offensive

657
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 7: names I want to throw at you guys, and I

658
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 7: want you to tell me how you think they're performing,

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Speaker 2: All right, we're going to talk.

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Speaker 8: About the things that I'm just a mess and I

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Speaker 2: That looks that ain't even the fact like that.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, Shining Star, Falling Star. Here's what I

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Speaker 8: Some future could look very bright.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna please.

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Speaker 7: Especially like you're not going all in like that. You're like, there,

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Speaker 8: If I win one, I mean cools.

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Speaker 5: Bring you lunch and then and dot no.

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Speaker 8: No no, no, no, no no no. I don't do that.

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Speaker 8: I respect others, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, but I will say, if you a documentary, win

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Speaker 2: If you attach yourself when you win some, you're gonna win.

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Speaker 3: Ideas, right, Derek, Yeah, the Rise of Lombardi about me,

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go, Shining Star, Falling Star. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna throw out a name.

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Speaker 7: I want you guys to tell me whether they are

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Speaker 7: a shining Star, are they falling star? And give me

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Speaker 7: a little bit of context on what you've seen from

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Speaker 7: this season.

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Speaker 2: Let's start first, with this season five games, Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: could be for this.

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Speaker 7: For Nate Thomas, it will be a lot less because

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Speaker 7: he hasn't played every game. But for what you've seen

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Speaker 7: this season, the shining star, falling star Nate Thomas, You.

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Speaker 5: Shining Nate Thomas is very much so shining.

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Speaker 4: I want everybody to kind of pump some brakes on

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Speaker 4: some of these uh you know, takings from some of

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Speaker 4: these people. But I do think for the Cowboys and

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Speaker 4: what they're asking for these you know, backups and shouts

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Speaker 4: out to Dack for being the leader. Dad don't even

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Speaker 4: like to say backups. He just said guys that are

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Speaker 4: waiting on their opportunity. That's a fantastic way to say,

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Speaker 4: is uh, you know, Nate has stepped up and he's

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Speaker 4: of keeping his feet, but Nate has done fine. Nobody

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, I would say that's exactly what

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Speaker 3: missing all of last year kind of getting red shirted.

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Speaker 3: And you know a lot of probably lonely days in

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Speaker 3: really knowing, oh yeah, this is one of our teammates,

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Speaker 3: they're coming back, and then all of a sudden, OTA's

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Speaker 3: you see, he's playing. He's the second right tackle, and

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Speaker 3: you're like, man, they got a plan for him. So

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Speaker 3: once again, offensive line coaches kind of seeing body type,

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Speaker 3: head start there. But you know, when he had to

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Speaker 3: did a fine job, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: you know, there was some there was some talk about him,

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Speaker 3: you know, having to maybe start in Week one against Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: He kind of felt pretty decent about that. So for

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Speaker 3: him to kind of wait for his chance to get

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Speaker 3: an opportunity to take advantage of it. The technique stuff

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Speaker 3: will improve, experience will help that. But overall, though, I

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Speaker 8: Same I agree with you guys, And I'm also biased though,

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Speaker 8: because I love his personality. He's just such a goofy,

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Speaker 8: funny guy that it's hard not to like him, So

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Speaker 8: I like him on the field and off the field.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Tobert shining star, falling star, It's.

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Speaker 4: Falling, you know, Jalen Tobert made a fantastic player.

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Speaker 8: You're not loyal. You are not a loyal guy.

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Speaker 5: I am loyal to honesty.

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Speaker 4: Jalen Tobin made a fantastic clutch play, looking like a

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Speaker 4: baseball player out there catching that pass over there at

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Speaker 4: Green Bay. But I think for the most part, I

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Speaker 4: a lot of confidence in him, So I think when

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Speaker 4: we go into games, that's why we see things like

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Speaker 4: well a, pardon me. They have a lot of confidence

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Speaker 4: in him, but it doesn't always show on Sundays. They always,

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Speaker 4: you know, talk about him as he works, all he's

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Speaker 4: and not die and all this. But I don't think

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Speaker 4: the best guy out there? I think nineteen has kind

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Speaker 4: of passed him up pretty well there, and that kind

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Speaker 4: of show last week when Tolburn only had one target

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Speaker 4: and you know nineteen had nine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that they're in a situation right now

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Speaker 3: you have to have somebody on that coaching staff or

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Speaker 3: a very important sponsor. I think it's Dak Prescott. I

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Speaker 3: think Dak Prescott says, listen, I want Jalen Tolbert out there.

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Speaker 3: I trust Jailing Tobert. I'm gonna throw him the ball

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Speaker 3: when I can. I know he's gonna go make a

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Speaker 3: But you're right about some of these other receivers we've seen.

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Speaker 3: We've seen Turpin rise to the occasion. We've seen now

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Speaker 3: Flinoy rise to the occasion. You know, how how close

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Speaker 3: what happens with Mingo. I kind of felt like that

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Speaker 3: when Mingo was off, it really wasn't about the others,

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Speaker 3: you know, it was about really where was Turpin here?

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Speaker 3: But I just do believe that as long as Dak

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Speaker 3: to always campaign for this guy. Because I think he

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Speaker 3: believes in him, and at times he has delivered, But

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Speaker 3: I think the others are, like Fox said, are rising

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Speaker 3: above him.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say for him, it's hard to For me,

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Speaker 8: it's hard to discredit what he has done because he's

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Speaker 8: made Like we talk about that catch, that was an

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Speaker 8: I don't want to say he's falling or rise and

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Speaker 8: he's just kind of flat like there. So yeah, neutral,

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Speaker 8: I guess for me.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, one thing I'll say about Jail I

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Speaker 7: think I'm speaking for myself. I think I have tried

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Speaker 7: to put him in a cast of maybe a different

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Speaker 7: He has not been. He's a guy that you put

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Speaker 7: him out there and he can reliably do the things

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Speaker 7: you're kind of asking him to do, and he'll make

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Speaker 7: a catch or two for you, and some of them

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Speaker 7: are going to be huge catches.

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Speaker 2: Last year he had eight touchdowns. It led the team.

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Speaker 7: He can make catches for you, He's just not a

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Speaker 7: volume receiver. And so I think when I started thinking

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Speaker 7: about it like that, I'm like, Okay, So it's not

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00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 7: that he's a bad receiver. He's just not a guy

882
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 7: who's gonna go out and get you six to eight

883
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 7: catches in a game.

884
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Speaker 2: That's just not what he does.

885
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Speaker 7: And I listened to the coach yesterday talk about how

886
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 7: he calls games, and he calls games he says he

887
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 7: calls plays for players, not necessarily for specific like get

888
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 7: the ball in this area. It's more about I'm calling

889
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 7: a play to get it in a specific player's hands.

890
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: And that tells me all I need to know.

891
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 7: If last week he gets one target and you see

892
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 7: somebody like Illinois who gets a ton of targets, it

893
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 7: means that they have a little more faith in him

894
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 7: being more of a volume receiver than maybe what they're

895
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 7: looking for is looking for opportunities to get the ball

896
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 7: into Jalen Tolbertan's But I think, like again, I agree

897
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Speaker 7: with you, Ambro. I think he's kind of just there.

898
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 7: I don't think he's rising, I don't think he's falling.

899
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 7: He just is what he is. He's plateau. By the

900
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 7: way this is and by the way, that's not a

901
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 7: bad receiver. To have a guy that you can get

902
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 7: a player or two out of and he could just

903
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 7: kind of be one of your guys. You just don't

904
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 7: need to miscast him into being your second receiver or

905
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 7: maybe even your third receiver.

906
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Speaker 3: We're coming out of coming out of school there, third

907
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 3: round pick. Yeah, I mean he was. You watched him

908
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: in college. He was a volume casher. Yeah, and he was,

909
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 3: and he would make incredible plays, and the hope was

910
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 3: that he could be that guy. And you're you know,

911
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: I'll give him credit. Last week there were a couple

912
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: of routes that he ran that drew coverage to get

913
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 3: other guys open. You know, if you want to really

914
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 3: break down and nitpick the guy, maybe he's not getting

915
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: the ball, but damn he's running a route that draws

916
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: of safety down on him, on a crossing route that

917
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: gets annoyed behind him, on a two level read that

918
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Speaker 3: gets that makes a forty yard play. Yeah, I mean

919
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 3: those are the kinds of things. See. But him coming

920
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: out of college and you watched him, he amber's right.

921
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: He should be at that level where he is getting

922
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: six to seven perceptions.

923
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Speaker 7: But for whatever reason, they don't feel like he's worth

924
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 7: that number of targets, right, they're not. They're not calling

925
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 7: his number enough they're not gonna I shouldn't say enough because

926
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 7: the offense is moving, they're not calling his his number

927
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 7: enough times for him to get more of those opportunities,

928
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 7: and so he just hasn't been a volume receiver for

929
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 7: the Cowboys, all right, Luke Schoolmaker, rising star, falling star.

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Speaker 4: You know, they're using Luke Moore and they're trying to

931
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 4: get some blocking stuff going with him. You know, Ambar

932
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 4: is about to say, I hate Luke. I feel like

933
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 4: Revn's a little better. They're not using Brevin for whatever,

934
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 4: or they're using Luke more than Brevin are throwing the balls.

935
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Speaker 4: And you know, if you want to compare Luke to

936
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Speaker 4: what he was last year, he's kind of like a

937
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 4: similar dude he was last year. I haven't seen really

938
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 4: a step up for him. Uh, he's just kind of

939
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 4: doing the same old thing. I'm not saying that, you know,

940
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 4: you know, he's just collapsing.

941
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: You know.

942
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Speaker 4: As a as a player, he's fine. But I would say,

943
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 4: just like with the jailing Tober thing, like we drafted

944
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 4: you to be a third round receiving man, schoolmakers the

945
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: second round picks. We would like to see you step

946
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 4: up and do what second round picks do uh and

947
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 4: he just hadn't done that, So Plateau not an option.

948
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Speaker 5: So I just say follow him.

949
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Speaker 3: Yeah, in a in a in a group where there

950
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: were a bunch of great tight ends. You know, the

951
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 3: porter was there. Yeah, it's just all of a sudden,

952
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: you're sitting there and.

953
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 5: You're like MacArthur like him.

954
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're, you're, you're the situation right there. Yeah, he

955
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: absolutely wasn't. There was talk about him maybe and being

956
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: a first round pick with Dallas. I mean, but the

957
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: think about it was to me, with Luke Schoolmaker, the

958
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 3: expectations for him coming out of Michigan were much much higher.

959
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: He was taken in the second round. It was a

960
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: very very very deep, deep draft. When it came to

961
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Speaker 3: the tight ends, Dallas just selected the one that's probably

962
00:41:59,280 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: not the most product.

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Speaker 2: It's a Michigan guy. That what you said, Michigan guy.

964
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Speaker 3: Just there were a lot of tight ends.

965
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Speaker 2: No, I'm saying you say he's a Michigan guy.

966
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Speaker 3: He's a Michigan Absolutely, he's a Michigan guy.

967
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Speaker 2: I love Jeorde Lewis.

968
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Speaker 5: You don't want to, you don't want to Louis. I

969
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 5: love Jordan Louis.

970
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: For me out lost a lot of people here.

971
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: Juorde Lewis was a good player.

972
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Speaker 8: Man.

973
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 7: He's still bawling up there in Jacksonville. Absolutely, he's a

974
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 7: good player.

975
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Speaker 8: Go ahead, No, I was gonna say, for me would

976
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 8: be falling. And he's a guy that right off the

977
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 8: bat when he came in, I had some unjustified issue

978
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Speaker 8: because he always bothered me because he always looked very stiff,

979
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Speaker 8: which is weird. So I don't know, it was a

980
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 8: thing in my head. I'm like, Oh, he's so stiff.

981
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 8: He's so stiff. But then you see the amount of

982
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 8: work that he puts in, and you know, you know,

983
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 8: all these guys work hard, but there are some that

984
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 8: you just notice it when they're going kind of the

985
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 8: extra mile. So I do have a different like for

986
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 8: him for that sense is that I know he puts

987
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 8: in the work. I see him putting in the work.

988
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 8: So part of me, that sentimental aspect of it. I

989
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 8: keep holding hope that at some point we're gonna get

990
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 8: to see a little bit more of him. But at

991
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 8: the same time, I don't know if that's kind of

992
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 8: his ceiling, Like this is where it's at right now,

993
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 8: and this is what to expect right it's the problem.

994
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 4: Though some guys are like super talented, so maybe after

995
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 4: the practice they don't have to hear the drugs is hard.

996
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 4: Schoolmaker has to work hard to be here at all.

997
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: Like he's not a guy that's gonna lean on talent

998
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 4: at all, Like he's he has to work hard just

999
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 4: to be competitive with the rest of these guys. So

1000
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 4: I'm glad he's working hard. But I think this is

1001
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 4: as high as we're gonna get with. That's that's what

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 7: That's a good all right, that's a wrap. We'll be

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Speaker 7: back tomorrow. We will wrap this week up. Get you

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Speaker 7: guys ready for Cowboys versus Panthers. Still then for vox

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