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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Thursday edition of The Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. Congrats to you Argentina fans out there.

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Speaker 1: Very sad day for those of us who were on

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Speaker 1: the Jolly Old England train. Very sad for us. They

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Speaker 1: were defeated right after the show yesterday, and so I

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Speaker 1: think there'll be a lot less World Cup talk on

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Speaker 1: the show because I no longer am going to be

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Speaker 1: in a position where I can say that I have

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Speaker 1: picked an amazing team to win the whole thing. So

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Speaker 1: we can just forget all about my prediction, which was Clay,

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Speaker 1: you were at the game.

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Speaker 2: I was at the game, your boys, Jolly old England.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the weakest, most cowardly conclusions to a

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Speaker 2: game that I have seen in a very very long

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Speaker 2: time across all sports England for those of you who

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Speaker 2: didn't watch, and it was an amazing game. England got a

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Speaker 2: one to zero lead and basically went into uh like

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Speaker 2: a fetal position and just tried to protect that lead.

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Speaker 2: They're playing against the greatest soccer player of all time

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Speaker 2: and they just they had what and probably the best offense,

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Speaker 2: the best offense of all time.

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Speaker 1: This would be to put it in football terms for everybody,

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Speaker 1: this would be you're up one touchdown, not five touchdown.

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Speaker 1: You're up one touchdown, and for the second half of

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Speaker 1: the entire football game, You're like, I have this amazing idea.

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Speaker 1: Let's just run a prevent defense the entire time and

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Speaker 1: not try to score ourselves. We're gonna run to them

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Speaker 1: every on every play, and we're gonna run prevent on defense.

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Speaker 1: Though it was clay the fact that coach makes eight

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year, it was the single most. It

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Speaker 1: was the worst malpractice from a coaching perspective in sports

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. But a lot of you don't care.

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Speaker 1: So we're not gonna spend much time on this today.

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Speaker 1: We will just say the World Cup is pretty much

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Speaker 1: over as far as I'm concerned. Spain's playing Argentina Iron

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Speaker 1: a rock war. For me, I wish they could both lose.

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Speaker 1: And there you go.

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Speaker 2: I I it was an amazing scene, great event. Atlanta

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Speaker 2: has done a fantastic job. I do think President Trump's

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Speaker 2: going to be interviewed before the World Cup for the

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Speaker 2: conclusion on Sunday, and I do think you have to

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Speaker 2: give a tremendous amount of credit to Andrew Giuliani, who

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Speaker 2: we've had on this program quite a lot. There are

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Speaker 2: two games left. They play a third place game, which

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Speaker 2: is like the.

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Speaker 1: That's absurd, the saddest game they should put us, They

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Speaker 1: should put us in there, just for the lols.

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Speaker 2: And but the championship, the game in New York is

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Speaker 2: going to be awesome. And I do think this summer

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Speaker 2: we have used soccer to establish American exceptionalism in the

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Speaker 2: eyes of many people around the world. Everybody has come

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Speaker 2: and visited. It has been very safe that we're on

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Speaker 2: track to have the greatest attendance, and the television viewership

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Speaker 2: for those who haven't been able to go to a game,

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Speaker 2: has been outstanding. So all that is good. But Bucks

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Speaker 2: beloved England has gone down. It was, like I said,

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Speaker 2: the Battle of Yorktown in many ways for the for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it turns out well, it turns out refusing to

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Speaker 1: fight back is not a brilliant strategy when you were

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Speaker 1: in a fight, so I could not do you'll appreciate

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Speaker 1: this historical analogy I have Heere's Morgan is in hiding.

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Speaker 2: I think as one of the foremost English soccer fans

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Speaker 2: second half for England was like Dunkirk if no one

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Speaker 1: Which I think is a pretty good historical analogy. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: now that that is. It was rough. Okay. I know

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Speaker 1: some of you, you're gonna be so happy because we're done.

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Speaker 1: I don't care about the World Cup now anymore. A

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Speaker 1: lot of you didn't care the whole time. There you go.

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Speaker 1: I was just going to do a victory dance if

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Speaker 1: England won the whole thing, because that would have been

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Speaker 1: an incredible prediction that I would have made from the

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Speaker 1: very start of the tournament. On the least, they ripped

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Speaker 1: my heart out. I'm very sad. Let's talk about America, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Let's dive into what we got going on here. First

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Speaker 1: of all, I love this new policy in progress from

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Speaker 1: the DoD. It's gonna be the TRTDD testosterone replacement.

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Speaker 2: We were texting about this. This is incredible.

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Speaker 1: Secretary of Warhegsath who I'm gonna tell you, when I

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Speaker 1: met Pete fifteen years ago, there was zero chance he

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Speaker 1: So that's you tell you something. So he's benching three

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Speaker 1: of hormone replacement therapy. All right, that's very obvious. And

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Speaker 1: of this. It is. Well, we'll be joined. Do we

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Speaker 1: have Rut guys with us on this one? Ah, he's

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Speaker 1: on vac. I think he's on he's actually literally on

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Speaker 1: The point here being guys, they're they're looking at doing

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Speaker 1: the approach to HRT. We will talk more about that later.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely love this though as an idea, it makes

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Speaker 1: and if your testosterone is healthy, there's no one's going

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Speaker 1: No doctor is going to say, you know, oh, you're

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Speaker 1: I think that's what the you know NGL. Yeah, no

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Speaker 1: one's gonna say, oh my gosh, we need to start

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Speaker 1: doing more. But if you're a guy in the military

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Speaker 1: there is that part of it. But Clay one thing

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Speaker 1: yesterday I talked a bit about first, so do you

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Speaker 1: hear the discussion on the squatting I got a lot

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Speaker 2: Well, I saw that you were tweeting about this. In

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Speaker 2: the context of this is you being in a hotel

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Speaker 1: Now I love this I love this show. I'm not

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Speaker 1: the only one. We've invited this guy on. We can

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Speaker 1: get to that later. But the squatting thing has really

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Speaker 1: taken off. Something else that I talked about. We talked

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Speaker 1: back off of this policy on immigration. Let's get into immigration.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into some top line items here. Clay, we

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Speaker 1: not going to do vehicle stops anymore, because there's been

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Speaker 1: you were likely to get shot. And that is a

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Speaker 1: lawful shooting, right. I mean, this is not a complicated matter,

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Speaker 1: assuming the facts line up in that way. Some people

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Speaker 1: little bit of chirping. Why are you complaining about this?

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Speaker 1: the following, Clay, the men and women of ICE this

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Speaker 1: way down. The open border policy of Sleepy Joe allowed

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Speaker 1: Many were criminals. We have to get them tough, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: He's saying here, I won't read the whole things, it's

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Speaker 1: pretty long, but Clay Trump came back, overruled this decision

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Speaker 2: You cannot tell bad guys what they can do to

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Speaker 1: So I think this was a mishap.

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Speaker 2: I do think the design Buck, the fact that this

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Speaker 2: Politically there was a concern that this was going to

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Speaker 2: of it particularly fraught, and I think that's the underlying

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Speaker 1: I would just note though, that for anyone who was

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Speaker 1: who was emailing in shut up, it's fine, Well, no, actually.

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Speaker 2: Was that actually happening? Were people upset that we were

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Speaker 1: There were some we're saying we're being don't be critical

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Speaker 1: of the administration on this. No, we absolutely should be

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Speaker 1: critical of the administration on this. Trump knew. I mean

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Speaker 1: get people to see what's happening, because the deportation issue

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Speaker 1: uh that's what we call it, transition back to a

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Speaker 1: going to address Chinese interference in our election, particularly twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: now and Tommy, I just check it. In my mentions,

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Speaker 2: I was making fun of the Savannah Bananas SB opening act,

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Speaker 2: coming after me. Uh but Tommy, there's a lot to

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Speaker 4: Well, listen, quay, I don't know, like the hormonal imbalances, right,

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Speaker 4: Off of you know, my observations, right, But you've said

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Speaker 2: What do you think the president should say tonight? The

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Speaker 2: How's that going to play out midterms? Does it matter?

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Speaker 2: What do you expect? My general take, Tommy would be,

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Speaker 4: next person. Obviously, that's why the Save America Act is

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Speaker 4: that would be great. Even if we had just voter ID,

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Speaker 4: going to be tonight. If it's going to be, hey,

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Speaker 4: I should have won in twenty twenty, I don't know

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Speaker 4: how that lands. I don't know how that fixes anything.

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Speaker 4: But if it's you know something too, this is why

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Speaker 4: we need to pass Save America Act, then you know

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Speaker 4: we're in the right vein. But I just think looking

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Speaker 4: towards the future, is probably more helpful, especially as we

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Speaker 4: go into the midterms.

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Speaker 1: Tommy, how are you feeling about the Iran situation right

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Speaker 1: now with gas prices and everything else in flux?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you this. I don't think that we

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Speaker 4: went into Iran because we wanted to, or because it

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Speaker 4: was just for fun, or it was for President Trump's legacy.

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Speaker 4: I believed that we went into Iran because we had

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Speaker 4: to for some you know, extreme purpose, that we had

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Speaker 4: to prevent something massive from happening. That being said, I'm

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Speaker 4: glad that we're resuming strikes because I think the worst

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Speaker 4: thing that was happening was the couple of months where

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Speaker 4: nothing was happening and we just had the promises of

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Speaker 4: a deal, the promises of a memorandum. I mean, we

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Speaker 4: reported on it every single weekend, and I think that

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Speaker 4: that left a lot of people with false hope. And

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Speaker 4: now it's kind of like the Boy who Cried WOLFZ,

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Speaker 4: Like do we have un understanding? Do we have a ceasefire?

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Speaker 4: Are we going to have diplomatic talks? Is the straight

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Speaker 4: going to be open? So when you go back and

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Speaker 4: forth with people and people are you know, especially those

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Speaker 4: that a lot of their family budget is reliant on

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Speaker 4: what the gas prices are. I think you just got

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Speaker 4: to play it straight with people and don't give them

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Speaker 4: false hope that you know, somehow the strait is going

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Speaker 4: to magically be open and it's going to stay open.

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Speaker 4: We haven't seen any evidence that it is, so just

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Speaker 4: play it straight with people so they know what to expect,

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Speaker 4: so they don't get their hopes up. I think that

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Speaker 4: would be my take on it.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Tommy layerin Big weekend show on Fox

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Speaker 2: News OutKick Show as well, our friend, are you going

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Speaker 2: to go see the Odyssey? And what has been your

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Speaker 2: take on the Elliott Ellen page revelations. We were talking

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Speaker 2: about this a little bit earlier, of him playing her

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Speaker 2: playing However, you want to classify a soldier and running

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Speaker 2: around in armor at five feet tall, what's going on here?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that's embarrassing, and I think that there's

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Speaker 4: definitely some capitulation to the wop mob on some aspects

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Speaker 4: of it. You know, the way they're depicting Helen of Troy,

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure that's so accurate to you know, the

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Speaker 4: actual time period or the epic itself that I grew

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Speaker 4: up reading in school. I probably still go see it

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Speaker 4: because I love the Odyssey just what it represents, and

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Speaker 4: at part of my childhood we all had to read it,

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Speaker 4: you know, many times and watch the old movies. So

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Speaker 4: I'll probably go and see it. I'm hoping the woke

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Speaker 4: doesn't creep into the storyline. If it doesn't creep into

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Speaker 4: the storyline, I'm okay. If it's just they have the

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Speaker 4: woman who thinks she's a man, I can get beyond that.

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Speaker 4: I'm just hoping they didn't try to alter the actual

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Speaker 4: storyline of the Odyssey. That is my big hope, and

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Speaker 4: if they do, they'll pay for it.

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Speaker 1: Tommy Clay might have convinced the massive company Paramount to

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Speaker 1: move to your shared home Nashville. That is in progress

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Speaker 1: right now. What do you think about nash Vegas going

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Speaker 1: from being just the country music capital of the country

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Speaker 1: to also the possibility here of it being a major

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Speaker 1: movie TV production hub, And would there be a Tommy

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Speaker 1: Laren starring drama at some point if Clay can make

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Speaker 1: that happen.

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Speaker 4: Listen. I love when companies come to Tennessee because I

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Speaker 4: love the investment. But as Clay knows, we have already

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Speaker 4: a lot of Californians here I don't know how many

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Speaker 4: Californians we can absorb at this point. I think we're

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Speaker 4: kind of saturated. I love the idea of entertainment coming here, though,

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Speaker 4: because I think it's just a natural transition. Austin has

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Speaker 4: become a comedy hub, and I think that Nashville could

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Speaker 4: be the next Hollywood. Georgia had it for a while.

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Speaker 4: I think it's much better in Nashville. I think Nashville

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Speaker 4: serves that purpose. But you know, as Clay knows, you

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Speaker 4: drive around Tennessee and there's a lot of Californians here,

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Speaker 4: So let's see what it brings, right, I don't know

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Speaker 4: what Starbucks is going to bring. Are they going to

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Speaker 4: bring more liberals here? That's my concern. I guess it's

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Speaker 4: growing pains, But I don't know how many more, you know, Californians,

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Speaker 4: liberal minded folks, we can absorb. And I want to

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Speaker 4: say this too. A lot of people say, well, they're

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Speaker 4: fleeing because they understand that their state is run horribly. Yes,

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Speaker 4: a lot of them are. But I will say, and

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Speaker 4: I don't know if Clay has the same experience. I

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Speaker 4: can say just from my neighborhood, there are a lot

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Speaker 4: of people who are conservative. Maybe fiscally, they don't want

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Speaker 4: to pay the taxes in California, they don't want to

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Speaker 4: have the regulations on their businesses. So in that mindset

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Speaker 4: they are conservative. But like in my neighborhood, I live

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Speaker 4: in a gated community. There are Californians that live in

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Speaker 4: my community who say they're conservative. They don't want security

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Speaker 4: to carry a gun. That makes them nervous. Okay, So

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Speaker 4: those are the things that I have a little bit

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Speaker 4: of trepidation about.

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Speaker 1: I want all my security with guns, Tommy.

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Speaker 2: You know, I had to move behind the gate because

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Speaker 2: of some of the craziness that's been going on, and

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Speaker 2: I want everybody around me with guns. So yeah, if

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Speaker 2: that we don't want the Californians that are nervous about

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Speaker 2: people having guns. If that's you, you can stay in California,

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Speaker 2: or you can move to New York instead. What do

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Speaker 2: you expect, Tommy. Here in Tennessee, the voting early voting

536
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Speaker 2: starts tomorrow. Marsha Blackburn was on with US Tuesday. I

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Speaker 2: think she's expected to win as the next governor. She

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Speaker 2: fought the state income tax. It feels to me we're

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Speaker 2: gonna have nine Republicans representing the whole state that in much.

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Speaker 1: Of the state there is really good leadership. I know.

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Speaker 2: I would say Floridians would say the same thing. I

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Speaker 2: think Texans largely would too, where we have no state

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Speaker 2: income tax. What do you expect from these elections that

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Speaker 2: are starting here in Tennessee on Friday.

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Speaker 4: Well, I've always liked Senator Marshall Blackburn. You know, she's

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Speaker 4: been a friend of mine for a long time, even

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Speaker 4: before I moved to Tennessee, so you know she has

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Speaker 4: my support. I think what the sleeper issue might be,

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Speaker 4: and I still think Republicans are going to take everything.

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Speaker 4: This is Tennessee. I think the sleeper issue on some

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Speaker 4: of it, though, might be the data center stuff. I

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Speaker 4: think that that's going to have a bigger impact than

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Speaker 4: people understand. It's an area where the left has found

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Speaker 4: they can pull some from the right because a lot

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Speaker 4: of folks that are rule, if they're Tennesseeans or wherever

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Speaker 4: they might be in this country, they're a little bit

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Speaker 4: anxious about the data centers and they keep putting them.

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Speaker 4: You know, usually obviously where the land is in the

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Speaker 4: rural areas, and people in Georgia and maybe in Tennessee

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Speaker 4: and some other places are a little nervous about that,

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Speaker 4: people that are very conservative. So the data center issue

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Speaker 4: I think is going to be bigger than people think.

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Speaker 1: Interesting.

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Speaker 2: I can definitely see that drama starting to build as well.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Caroline Levitt at the Rosterum, returning from

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Speaker 2: having her second baby press conference underway right now starting, Tommy,

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Speaker 2: keep up the good work. People watching on the weekend

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Speaker 2: and they can subscribe to your YouTube channel for your

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Speaker 2: OutKick show, which is doing fantastically well as well. What

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Speaker 2: else should they know from your perspective? How do they

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Speaker 2: find you?

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Speaker 4: Well, we're going to be I'll be heading to New York.

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Speaker 4: I have to leave Tennessee as I always do, heading

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Speaker 4: to New York doing a little out Numbered tomorrow, and

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Speaker 4: then of course we'll be on the big weekend show.

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Speaker 4: So we got the World Cup final on Sunday. That'll

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Speaker 4: be interesting.

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Speaker 1: Clay, I think I'm on with you. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: I'm on to World Cup. Tommy. I feel like you're

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Speaker 1: going to know this. Who's gonna win?

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Speaker 4: I promise you. I care not one bit about soccer,

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Speaker 4: so I couldn't even bananas. I'd rather watch the Savannah

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Speaker 4: Bananas play.

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Speaker 1: Tommy loves America too much to weigh in on argent

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Speaker 1: Uni versus Spain. This surprises nobody. Tommy, thank you for

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Speaker 1: being with us.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys. Talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: I'll be on with Tommy on Sunday, So the Big

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Speaker 2: New the Big Big Weekend Show, if you want to

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Speaker 2: which is not too far away.

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Speaker 1: It's like having your house at the perfect temperature all

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being here with us, everybody, And we just

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Speaker 1: you were out there and in the meantime, we've got

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Speaker 1: this Clay a few things. By the way, we have

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Speaker 1: some funny stuff to get to at the back of

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Speaker 1: this hour involving a license plate. That's all I can say.

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Speaker 1: That will be the only tease I have for this one.

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Speaker 1: We will have to get there though, Clay or remind me.

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Speaker 1: But first, the serious business of the republic and what's

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Speaker 1: going on with Caroline Levitt's preview of the speech tonight

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Speaker 1: that President Trumpele gave at nine o'clock on is nine Eastern?

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Speaker 1: Is that right we're talking about yes, yeah, talking about

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Speaker 1: the time changes on. Well, here's what Caroline. This is

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Speaker 1: cut thirty guys. Here's Caroline Levitt previewing Trump's speech tonight.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear it.

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Speaker 6: Part of the problem is that the media has refused

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Speaker 6: to acknowledge that tens of millions of Americans across the

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Speaker 6: country share the concerns of this president about the sanctity

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Speaker 6: of our elections. And your premise of your question, you're

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Speaker 6: jumping ahead to a conclusion in this speech before even

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Speaker 6: hearing it yourself. I think that everyone should tune in tonight,

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Speaker 6: including the people in this room, and you should report

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Speaker 6: on the President's speech and the findings that he is

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Speaker 6: going to reveal in this speech with a little bit

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Speaker 6: of honesty and a little bit of integrity, because it

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Speaker 6: does it will shock you if you have an honest

654
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Speaker 6: I listening to the President tonight, and everything he is

655
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Speaker 6: saying will be backed by facts and by evidence that

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Speaker 6: will be provided this evening. And again, Garrett, again, I

657
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Speaker 6: think all Americans, Democrat Republicans should agree that we are

658
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Speaker 6: the greatest country in the history of the world. We

659
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Speaker 6: should have the safest and most secure elections in the

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Speaker 6: history of the world, and what the President will.

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Speaker 1: Be speaking about tonight will show you that perhaps that.

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Speaker 6: Is not the case, and we need to make some

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Speaker 6: adjustments moving forward, including the Save America Act, as Rachel

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Speaker 6: pointed out, is a key legislative priority for this president.

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Speaker 1: On Capitol Hill, Clay, I don't know what the President's

666
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Speaker 1: going to say tonight, and I'm very curious to see it.

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Speaker 1: I will watch it tonight, but I do know, and

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Speaker 1: I would put money on this one that the people

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Speaker 1: in the press corps who are Trump paters, doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: what he says, It doesn't matter. I can appreciate Caroline

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Speaker 1: Levitt asking them to please once try to be honest.

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Speaker 1: Spoiler alert everybody that Trump hating media will not be

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Speaker 1: honest about whatever it is that he says, So we

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Speaker 1: should at least all be prepared for that as we

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Speaker 1: wait to see what the President has to say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was saying earlier, is even if

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Speaker 2: President Trump came out and provided the most died in

678
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Speaker 2: the wall, beyond self doubt, beyond criticism, beyond reasonable doubt,

679
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: evidence that our elections are insecure and that they have

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Speaker 2: been influenced in a way that makes them unsafe. MSNBC, CNN,

681
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Speaker 2: New York Times. They're not going to cover it. They're

682
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Speaker 2: just not and they have decided that President Trump is.

683
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Speaker 2: They cared drastically. It is kind of funny. In twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: all of them bought the Russia collusion hoax and covered

685
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Speaker 2: the idea that Russia had rigged our election as if

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Speaker 2: it were the biggest story in.

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Speaker 1: The history of the United States.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, Trump said our election was rigged and

689
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Speaker 2: none of them would cover it. And now in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. I think Trump won so comfortably that everybody's

691
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Speaker 2: just kind of said, yeah, Kamala was an awful candidate.

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Speaker 1: Trump won.

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Speaker 2: I do think buck one of the big lasting questions

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Speaker 2: that is still out there. You and I talked about

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Speaker 2: it yesterday. I'll be honest. In twenty twenty I didn't

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Speaker 2: believe anywhere near as much as I do now that

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Speaker 2: the eighty one million Biden votes were illegitimate. And I

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Speaker 2: looked at it and I said, Okay, maybe Trump is

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Speaker 2: uniquely able to in twenty twenty. We know they changed

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Speaker 2: all the rules with ballots and everything else. The fact

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Speaker 2: that Kamala is six million less than Biden in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four made me go back to twenty twenty and

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Speaker 2: look at it and say, there's no way that Biden

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Speaker 2: got eighty one million legitimate votes.

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Speaker 1: There just isn't.

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Speaker 2: And I think increasing majorities of Americans just look at it.

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Speaker 2: Take away the politics. Whether you're a Trump person, whether

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Speaker 2: you're a Biden person. The question I think you have

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Speaker 2: to ask is is Joe Biden the most popular presidential

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Speaker 2: candidate to ever run in the history of the United States.

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Speaker 2: I think there's not one single person in America that

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Speaker 2: would say that, I'll put it this way, Buck, we're

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Speaker 2: making fun of Biden announcing these You're releasing a book

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Speaker 2: this week. Have you ever seen anybody wear Biden gear?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Yes, no, no, excuse me, excuse me, sir. Some of

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Speaker 1: the illegals who were showing up at the border were

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Speaker 1: wearing Biden T shirts. They were very excited, very excited

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Speaker 1: about vice presidency.

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Speaker 2: So the reason why I bring it up, you might say, Okay, Clay,

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Speaker 2: why would you even bring up the idea of Biden

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Speaker 2: gear when you wear something like right now, I'm wearing

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Speaker 2: an Atlanta Braves T shirt. Right when you wear something

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Speaker 2: that you are committed to that shows you are a

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Speaker 2: member of a tribe, it shows a depth of commitment.

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Speaker 2: Whatever you think about Trump, the red Maga hat is

727
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Speaker 2: an unbelievably powerful sign of how much depth of support

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Speaker 2: there is for Trump.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: I don't ever remember seeing anyone where in their normally

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Speaker 2: existing life Biden gear.

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Speaker 1: And so I think you just reasonably look.

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Speaker 2: At all of this and say, is there a depth

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Speaker 2: of support of Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: You went through with Groc was yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I think you were reading what Groc said about the

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Speaker 2: eighty one million votes that Biden got in the wake

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Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty four election. We can test Trump

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen twenty twenty twenty four. There are twelve years

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Speaker 2: basically of Trump data out there now since he came

741
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Speaker 2: down the escalator and began his political career. This is

742
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Speaker 2: about twelve years of data ish of what Trump represents

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Speaker 2: on the American political landscape.

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Speaker 1: There's no way Biden got any one million legal votes.

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Speaker 2: I do not believe it now. I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: any way that a New York Times reporter would ever

747
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Speaker 2: say what I just said, no matter what the evidence is.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any way a CNN reporter would

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Speaker 2: say it. I don't think there's any way an MSNBC

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Speaker 2: reporter would say it. So no matter what Trump lays

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Speaker 2: out tonight, it's not going to impact the way that

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Speaker 2: this is covered. And half the country is not going

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Speaker 2: to hear what he says at all, and they're going

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Speaker 2: to be told that.

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Speaker 1: He's just lying to them.

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Speaker 2: My concern, and we just asked Tommy Laarn about this

757
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Speaker 2: at the top of the next hour, is is this

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Speaker 2: going to help in the midterms or is it going

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Speaker 2: to be people saying, hey, like that was six years ago,

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Speaker 2: and I'm talking about people who are persuadable voters. What

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Speaker 2: I care about now is cost of living. What I

762
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Speaker 2: care about now is mortgage rates, which are way too high.

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Speaker 2: What I care about is the rate on my credit

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Speaker 2: card debt.

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Speaker 1: That's what I.

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Speaker 2: Think the average American wants to hear. And my concern

767
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Speaker 2: is this is going to be discordant because it's going

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Speaker 2: to sound like Trump. Again, we haven't read this speech,

769
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Speaker 2: and we haven't seen the speech or anything else, but

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Speaker 2: it's going to sound like Trump is retrospectively focused on

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Speaker 2: events instead of prospective, prospectively well focused.

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Speaker 1: My sense play is he may present tonight numbers and

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Speaker 1: data to support his very clear view on the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty election, and he's doing so not just to re

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Speaker 1: litigate the pass, which will certainly be an accusation that

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Speaker 1: people a criticism people will make about this, but also

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Speaker 1: because of the Save America Act and the desire that

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Speaker 1: the President and many other Republicans have to further secure

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Speaker 1: and solidify elections going forward. So there is a I

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Speaker 1: think going to be an action piece of this other

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Speaker 1: than Trump wanting to address some thing that he feels

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Speaker 1: very passionately and personally about for obvious reasons. My sense

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Speaker 1: is that it will tie into the Save America Act

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Speaker 1: as well, which, unfortunately, then you get into why isn't

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Speaker 1: it being passed. It's not being passed because of the

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Speaker 1: assumption of a Democrat filibuster, and unless people are willing

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Speaker 1: to change that rule in the Senate, that's where it

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Speaker 1: goes and dies. I don't think there's any willingness to

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Speaker 1: change it in the Senate. So we get into this.

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Speaker 1: This is where it just gets frustrated. To this, You

791
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Speaker 1: and I are frustrated as much as many listeners are.

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Speaker 1: The Save Act has eighty percent public support. Majorities of black, white, Asian,

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Speaker 1: Hispanic people all say, this is very basic. Let's have

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Speaker 1: elemental security when it comes to casting about it.

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Speaker 2: And yet, and yet we cannot get this basic bill passed.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot of people, Jack and Virginia wants

797
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Speaker 2: to weigh in on this. Jack, what you got?

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Speaker 5: Yes, your caller and I've talked about this. We don't

799
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Speaker 5: want to relitigate it, but don't think that this can't

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Speaker 5: happen again. The Democrats are very good at this, and

801
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Speaker 5: if you know anything about American history. This isn't the

802
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Speaker 5: first time they did this, So we need to get

803
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Speaker 5: the facts out and just let the people decide themselves.

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Speaker 5: To me, there was no doubt that election night. I

805
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Speaker 5: stayed up till two or three in the morning and

806
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Speaker 5: to see what happened. By the next morning, I'm like, huh,

807
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Speaker 5: what you know, where did all these votes come from?

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Speaker 5: So I hear a lot of people in the media say, oh,

809
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Speaker 5: this is not a big deal. We need to move on. No,

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Speaker 5: we don't need to move on. I mean, this is

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Speaker 5: this is what men fight and die in wars for.

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Speaker 2: I agree with everything you're saying. The question that I'm

813
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 2: asking is this audience agrees with everything that you're saying.

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Speaker 2: This audience is going to watch whatever Trump says tonight

815
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: and say yes, I agree. Is there an ability to

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Speaker 2: actually tangibly change something right now? We have control of

817
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Speaker 2: the Senate and the argument is, thank you for the call,

818
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Speaker 2: we need at least sixty votes to get anything done. Well, bucket,

819
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Speaker 2: I have said, and I think President Trump's one hundred

820
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: percent right about this. As soon as Democrats get back

821
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Speaker 2: control of the United States Senate and the House and

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Speaker 2: the White House, which could happen as soon as twenty

823
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Speaker 2: twenty eight, they're going to immediately do away with the filibuster,

824
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Speaker 2: and they are going to implement radical left wing agendas.

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Speaker 2: And everybody on the Republican side who set around and

826
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Speaker 2: said we have to remain committed to principle and procedure

827
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Speaker 2: and history is going to look like a patsy because

828
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Speaker 2: Democrats are going to run roughshot over whenever they have

829
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Speaker 2: the power to do so.

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Speaker 1: That's my concern.

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Speaker 2: So I just think in many ways, Trump is going

832
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Speaker 2: to be preaching to the choir that already believes everything

833
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Speaker 2: he has said. I want to see the speech. I

834
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Speaker 2: do think having the head of the FBI or the

835
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Speaker 2: CIA deliver this speech as well. If there's tangible evidence

836
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Speaker 2: of cheating and also prosecutions, this is where I get

837
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: really frustrated, and I know you do too, Buck. If

838
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Speaker 2: we've got people cheating on everything related to COVID, and

839
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Speaker 2: if we've got everybody cheating on many different things relating

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Speaker 2: to relating to elections, who's paid the consequences for any

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Speaker 2: of this, Well, that's all true. There's also a component

842
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Speaker 2: of this clay of the continued beating that the Democrat

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Speaker 2: media takes. Formerly the formerly known as the legacy corporate

844
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Speaker 2: media that they take over the I think there's going

845
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: to be an obvious double standard at play if he

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Speaker 2: talks about China influencing the election, doing anything that's based

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Speaker 2: in either mainland China or perhaps North Korea on behalps

848
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Speaker 2: of China, behalf of China. The Democrats in the media

849
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Speaker 2: are all just going to say, oh, but you know,

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Speaker 2: it didn't matter, it didn't do much, right like the

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Speaker 2: Russia one hundred thousand dollars on Facebook in twenty sixteen

852
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Speaker 2: really shifted. So he'll expose them for the total frauds

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Speaker 2: and phonies they are once again. And there is value

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Speaker 2: to that as well, assuming that's part of the presentation tonight.

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Speaker 2: But I still think that the mid terms here and

856
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Speaker 2: how this factors into that is probably the most important component.

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Speaker 2: So well, we got to see we're just previewing it

858
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Speaker 2: right now. We'll see where it goes. We'll take your

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Speaker 2: calls eight hundred two two eight eight two, your talkbacks

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Speaker 2: as well. Home break ins happened twice a minute on

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Speaker 2: average nationwide. Only time you really think about how to

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Speaker 2: protect yourself is when it happens close to your home.

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Speaker 2: If someone you know even a neighbor experience is a

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Speaker 2: home break in. Then you start thinking about your own

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Okay, we

883
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: got an update here for you in a real time.

884
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: US forces are conducting a new wave of strikes against

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Speaker 1: Iran as we talk to you. Uh so they are

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Speaker 1: degrading Iranian military capabilities. Sent comput this out. Yes we are.

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Speaker 1: We are bombing them again the MoU Is Donzo memorandum

888
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Speaker 1: of understanding, and we are continuing to watch this. I

889
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Speaker 1: so very interesting. Just one note about this, and I

890
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Speaker 1: don't want to spend too much time on it because

891
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: not much has really changed. We're back where we were

892
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: and this is a lot of stop start. But Clay,

893
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Speaker 1: when we talked about it looks like we don't have

894
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Speaker 1: I said to you, it looks like we don't have

895
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Speaker 1: Iran quite where we thought we did with cutting off

896
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Speaker 1: their oil. Well, and you said, well, yeah, d the

897
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: opening they just rushed it all out. Yeah, but this

898
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Speaker 1: is both of these statements are true. We don't have

899
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Speaker 1: Iran right where we want them with the oil because

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Speaker 1: they use the thirty days of negotiations when Trump said okay,

901
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: you can sell your oil again to just flood as

902
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Speaker 1: much of their oil out as possible, which now means

903
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Speaker 1: that now their storage capacity is back to a place

904
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Speaker 1: where they have some time. They filled their coffers with

905
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Speaker 1: some hard currency done all this, So now it's like

906
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Speaker 1: we're we're starting not from square one because I know

907
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of degraded military capability on the ground there.

908
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Speaker 1: But in terms of using the oil as the choke point,

909
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Speaker 1: this could be, this could be a little while.

910
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Speaker 2: Look, the question that President Trump is going to be

911
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: confronted with, and we've talked about this a lot on

912
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Speaker 2: the program over the past several months, if you really

913
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Speaker 2: want to control the situation.

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Speaker 1: In Iran, you have to take Carg Island. You have

915
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Speaker 1: to take.

916
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Speaker 2: Carg Island, and you have to then be in control

917
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Speaker 2: of the means of production of oil and gas in Iran.

918
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Speaker 2: If you do that, it would require putting American troops

919
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Speaker 2: on that island, and it would put them in peril

920
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Speaker 2: and danger. That is to me the uh that is

921
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Speaker 2: the decision that President Trump is going to be faced with,

922
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Speaker 2: because I think we have established that we're not going

923
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Speaker 2: to get significant regime change.

924
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Speaker 1: Through all of these bombs.

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Speaker 2: You were on this from the get go, Buck that

926
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Speaker 2: in order to really force out the IRGC, you're going

927
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Speaker 2: to have to replace that government. And the only way

928
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Speaker 2: you can replace that government is by putting troops on

929
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Speaker 2: the ground. So to me, the kind of the middle

930
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Speaker 2: ground here would be taking over the financial means of

931
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Speaker 2: the funding of the government, which would require troops on

932
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Speaker 2: the ground in carg Island, and US taking over the

933
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Speaker 2: oil and gas production capabilities of Iran, which is an accelerant.

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Speaker 1: And at that point, when you have US troops who

935
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Speaker 1: are engaging in gun battles with whatever Iranian resistance is there,

936
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Speaker 1: it's a war. You can argue about the scale or

937
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Speaker 1: you can debate the scale of the war, but it's

938
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Speaker 1: certainly a war. Right now, Trump is saying it's more

939
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Speaker 1: of a military action than a war, however we want

940
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Speaker 1: to it's really an air campaign or an air and

941
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Speaker 1: missile I guess aerial campaign includes the missiles. But there

942
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Speaker 1: hasn't been a ground troop component really yet. I know

943
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Speaker 1: we had to save a down pilot, but we're not

944
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Speaker 1: doing the landing large numbers of soldiers. That would be

945
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Speaker 1: an obvious escalation from the perspective of US US risk

946
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Speaker 1: and also politically here at home, it's a lot harder

947
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Speaker 1: to say, oh, but this is just something that we're doing.

948
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Speaker 1: A pressure of the Iranians if we have any especially

949
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Speaker 1: if we start losing any number of America. That changes

950
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Speaker 1: the calculation for a lot of people. So Clay, you're

951
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: right about what we would need for the pressure the Iranians.

952
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll be able to bring the Iranians

953
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Speaker 1: to heal, so to speak, by cutting off their oil

954
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Speaker 1: for I mean, based on the numbers in the past,

955
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Speaker 1: we'll take a couple of months really here, So how

956
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: long are you going to do the air strikes? It

957
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Speaker 1: would put it into the American political midterm process, right,

958
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Speaker 1: So the question is does President Trump try to jump

959
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: ahead of that and decide to make a decision that

960
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: would be an accelerant but also in theory would in

961
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Speaker 1: an ideal world accelerate some form of resolution. I think

962
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Speaker 1: the challenge is Buck and I think you probably would

963
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: sign off on this too. This is never going to

964
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Speaker 1: be a resolved situation unless you're willing to actually commit

965
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: boots on the ground to try to wipe out the

966
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: IRGC once and for all right, to send them for

967
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Speaker 1: this is why you know, people will talk about out,

968
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, whether or not they thought the Bush administration

969
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: in Iraq was a It was a total disaster. Do

970
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: they make some smart moves some dumb moves, whatever, it

971
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: may be. Yeah, if they thought they could get the

972
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: whole thing done from the air, they would have right.

973
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: And this was also true we had a no fly

974
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: zone over Iraq for many years, which was part of

975
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Speaker 1: a you know, part of the UN resolution and a

976
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: carrots and sticks approach to Saddam Hussein and all this.

977
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Speaker 1: You can't get it all done from the sky, and

978
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Speaker 1: that is something that I think the Trump administration knew,

979
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: and they were testing this out. There has been some

980
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: miscalculation here. I think it's fair to say with the

981
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 1: amount of Iranian dissent slash resistance uprising, you would see

982
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: as a result, Like I really do think the hope

983
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: here was we will be the Iranian Counter Revolutions Air Force.

984
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: If we're really just being honest about what I think

985
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: the administration believed at the beginning. Though they'll say not now,

986
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 1: they'll say that's not true, and maybe they're right, maybe

987
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: they're not, But I do believe that that's what was thought,

988
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: and there's actually a fair amount of reporting to support that.

989
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: And then it was okay, well we did this thing,

990
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: they're not rising up. What's the most that we can

991
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: get out of this. We're going to have to accelerate

992
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: the punishment from the air to force the concessions we want.

993
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: I think that has been harder than we anticipated as well.

994
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: I think the other part of this, and it does

995
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 2: deserve to be talked about, Israel was wrong when they

996
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: told Trump that they believed they had a process by

997
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 2: which regime change could occur. I also think this is

998
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 2: the question, will Israel put boots on the ground if

999
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 2: the United States said, hey, we'll give you air support.

1000
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 2: Is there a willingness in Israel for Israeli soldiers to

1001
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 2: go into Iran? And then what does that do in

1002
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: the Middle East? Because Buck, as you well know having

1003
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 2: spent time in the Middle East, there is a different

1004
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: dynamic at play. I think when American troops are on

1005
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: the ground, because we are seen as less of a

1006
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 2: religious war right than when Israeli troops are on the

1007
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Speaker 2: ground and it is seen as Jews versus Muslims.

1008
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,479
Speaker 1: Now we're pretty much seen the same. You think, pretty

1009
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: much just as bad for US troops on the ground

1010
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: as it is when they were trying to blow us

1011
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: up in a rock. They were calling us crusaders and Jews,

1012
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: crusaders and Jews. I'm just telling you it's bad. They're

1013
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: not like, oh, the Americans are here. Well, I'm thinking

1014
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: that Americans would be a little bit better. No, not really.

1015
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: They think that we're just the army of Israel, essentially,

1016
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: that we're the army arm of the Israeli government, like

1017
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: we do Israel's bidding. So no, they do. They would

1018
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: not be.

1019
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: Uh So the question then becomes did the circles very

1020
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 2: back around? I was trying to find a middle ground

1021
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 2: where Israel is acting and we're not right where they're

1022
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 2: putting boots on the ground taking more risks than we are.

1023
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 2: Is there a will to do that in Israel? Would

1024
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: it play worse in the Middle East? If the answer

1025
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 2: is no, then basically we're just back to the question.

1026
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: And this is one of the legacies, unfortunately of Iraq.

1027
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 2: It could be the case in Afghanistan. It could be

1028
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: the case that if we put boots on the ground

1029
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 2: in Iran it could actually work out. Okay, Right, that's

1030
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 2: a possibility, the idea, the idea that.

1031
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: It could be, but not the risk factor. Right, the

1032
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: risk factor of blowing up a bunch of their installations

1033
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: and stuff in Iran is pretty low for us. Yes, correct,

1034
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: the risk factor of once you start landing. Look, once

1035
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: people are in harm's way, it changes dynamic overnight.

1036
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 2: I do think that the failure of Iraq and Afghanistan

1037
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: has basically now for a generation plus, it's created a

1038
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: world where everyone says, I don't want American troops on

1039
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: the ground anywhere in the Middle East. And the result

1040
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 2: is we can't solve anything, you know, And this is

1041
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 2: where you start to get into an intractable never ending.

1042
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: You use the phrase you constantly got to mow the grass.

1043
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: And this is where I think a lot of Americans

1044
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: just we don't have a lot of patience. They think

1045
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 2: in one hundred year terms in Iran and in many

1046
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: of these Middle Eastern countries, and we're thinking about months.

1047
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: This is also part of the problem with the approach.

1048
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: And I know didn't JD went on the Joe Rogan

1049
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: know right and talked about a bunch of the stuff.

1050
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: And JD is frustrated with the criticism about this, Okay,

1051
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: but JD can come on and talk to us whenever

1052
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: he wants. It should be criticized. This is not working

1053
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: out as planned, all right. We should be able to

1054
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: have a conversation about where this is and what's true

1055
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: and what's not. This is obviously I mean, as you know,

1056
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: Clay I and everyone knows who listens to the show,

1057
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: I've been saying from the Iranians are just going to

1058
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: entangle us in negotiations and then they're gonna lie, and

1059
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: then they're gonna cheat and steal, They're gonna do everything

1060
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: that This is just that this was pretty clearly going

1061
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: to be the case. And the background of all this

1062
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: as well is whatever agreement they do, whatever they would

1063
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: even theoretically sign on to, as soon as there's a

1064
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: Democrat administration, they know that there'll be no consequences, so

1065
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: they don't have they don't have they can sign anything

1066
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: they want. Ultimately, all they have to do is wait

1067
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: until there's heaven forbid but a President Kamala or President Newsom,

1068
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they know it's totally

1069
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: game on. They do whatever they want. Here's JD by

1070
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: the way, on Iran cut twenty play it.

1071
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 7: What the president has done, I think, very very capably,

1072
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 7: is said, we're going to use military force in the

1073
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,959
Speaker 7: in this situation when it's connected to something we're trying

1074
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 7: to achieve. So if you shoot at ships we're going

1075
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 7: to shoot at the facilities at which you used to

1076
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 7: shoot at the ships. But we're not just going to

1077
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 7: do something open ended indefinitely. We're not just gonna bomb

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Speaker 7: and bomb and bomb. We're going to try to use

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Speaker 7: our military force as one of the many tools that

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Speaker 7: we have to solve the problem. And obviously, like I'm biased,

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Speaker 7: but I think that's exactly the right approach.

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Speaker 1: Now that's by the way, that's he basically contradicts himself

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Speaker 1: without recognizing the statement. We can shoot at whatever they've

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Speaker 1: shot at the ships with for the next twenty years

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Speaker 1: and they'll still have stuff to shoot at the ships.

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Speaker 1: So this is actually open ended. I mean, I would

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Speaker 1: just disagree with JD on that portion of what he said.

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Speaker 2: I would also point out Jade Vans in a really

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Speaker 2: tough position because he doesn't agree. I think it's fair

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Speaker 2: to say, with the policies that have been implemented so far,

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Speaker 2: that it is public that he argued against going into

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Speaker 2: Iran and didn't like a lot of these decisions. But

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Speaker 2: as the VP, his job is to defend the choices

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Speaker 2: that the President of the United States makes. He has

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Speaker 2: to be an advocate for policies that he individually may

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Speaker 2: not have embraced himself, which.

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Speaker 1: Is a tough spot.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is I think that's one reason to

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Speaker 2: your point, Buck, that he's kind of on each side

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Speaker 2: of the issue and isn't able to just say exactly.

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Speaker 2: I think the truth of the matter is the President

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Speaker 2: made a choice that JD. Vance disagrees with, and he

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Speaker 2: can't just come out and say I disagree with the

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Speaker 2: president because his job is to execute the president's decisions.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I think he's been chosen for this role

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Speaker 1: of spokesperson on this because a lot of the pro

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Speaker 1: Trump Trump voting right that didn't really support this Iran situation.

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Speaker 1: You know, JD is more say, palatable to them than

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Speaker 1: some of the more interventionist members of the administration. So

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Speaker 1: he's a buffer. He's a buffer for this Trump administration

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Speaker 1: because at least the people that feel like the Iran

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Speaker 1: move wasn't the wise move or saying well, JD's there,

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Speaker 1: we know he didn't like this. He's trying to get

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Speaker 1: this done. He's trying to get us out of this.

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Speaker 1: So there's an optics component of this that I think

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Speaker 1: is pretty clear.

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Speaker 2: Would you agree with this? I think Pete hag Seth

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Speaker 2: Marco Rubio would be on the more aggressive anti Iran response.

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Speaker 1: Would that be a fair I think Secretary of Hegseth like,

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Speaker 1: we will destroy them down to the lizards, if you

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Speaker 1: remember from Bora. Yes, yeah, So I think those guys

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Speaker 1: are on one side. JD.

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Speaker 2: Vance is on the other, and President Trump is in

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Speaker 2: between listening to both sides of the argument. And on

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Speaker 2: any given day, I think President Trump is just frustrated

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Speaker 2: at the degree to which Iran is lying to him

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Speaker 2: in negotiation. Yeah, and that's coloring much of his response

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Speaker 2: at this point is Hey, we had a deal. You

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Speaker 2: guys are just total liars. And he's just almost defended

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Speaker 2: as a deal maker more than anything else.

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Speaker 1: So I think what people have to understand about the

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Speaker 1: Trump approach to this, especially for those of you who

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Speaker 1: are MMA fans, Trump has them a in a like

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Speaker 1: an armlock and saying okay, tap out, and they're like no,

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Speaker 1: and then he snaps the arm and then he goes, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this to your other arm. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: tap out right no, because they're crazy and it's really

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Speaker 1: not their arm that's being broken. It's the arm of

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Speaker 1: the Iranian people. And their economy. So that's the problem here,

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Speaker 1: is that a normal leader would say all right, Trump's

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Speaker 1: Goddess Box day and there's nothing else to do. The

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Speaker 1: Iranians who are calling the shots are like, yeah, whatever,

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Speaker 1: it's horrible for people. Our guys are getting blown up. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's what we signed up for. And again, Buck, the

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Speaker 1: other part of this is it's part of this just

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Speaker 1: thinking in one hundred year windows, right, I mean, being

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Speaker 1: in an awful position for years for them is just

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Speaker 1: it's part of the part of the game, all right.

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Speaker 1: To honor the twenty fifth anniversary of nine to eleven

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Speaker 1: the Tunnel, the Towers Foundation has planned the most comprehensive

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Speaker 1: commemoration in its history. Through September, the Foundation Steal Across

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Speaker 1: America Tour is transporting a powerful symbol of resilience to

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Speaker 1: World Trade Center. Tomorrow, it'll be in Seattle at the

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Speaker 1: honor of the three hundred and forty three members of

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Speaker 1: of a sacrifice on nine to eleven, the Foundation is

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Speaker 1: the Foundation is holding hundreds of runs, walks, climbs, golf oundings,

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Speaker 1: including their iconic Tower Climb and five K events in

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Speaker 1: New York City. My wife Kerrie, for example, has done

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