WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Problems on Special Teams 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:05.440 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:15.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lounge, 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:20.600 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:26.240 Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCray, and Newey Scrugs. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.480 We are lounging here on a Tuesday, a holiday week 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.960 as the Cowboys getting ready to play on Thursday, Thanksgiving 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:38.280 Day in the afternoon against the Buffalo Bills. Barry Church, 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:44.559 Danny mccras, I'm Newi Scruggs. We have a plethora of 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:48.960 items to get into. Let me start by going back 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:52.360 to New England up in Fox where I was there 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:54.840 at the game. And let me tell you. When I 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:58.640 woke up, it was raining. It was that Conny Regy's 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.040 kept pounding and went all along. We drove to the stadium, 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:02.760 it was just wet, wet, wet. Got out the car, 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:06.679 um had you I had? I was layered up. Okay, 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:08.560 I was layered up. I had on just a long 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:12.320 sleeve T shirt that put on a little sweater, then 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:16.440 put on this vest, then put on a double layered coat, 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:19.880 beanie and cover and it was it was just bad 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:24.399 like that. Man. Oh, no, I was warm, but I was. 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:26.440 I was. I was getting as quickly up to the 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:29.200 press box as I could. My photographer had on a 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.039 whole bunch of stuff there. But he was, he was, 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:32.880 he was wet, but it was it was a and 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.600 just the wind. That was everything too, was the wind 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.160 and it was sideway rain and wind and it was 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:48.360 just it was just going to well, well you guys, 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:55.800 you guys ever thought with part of that. So that 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:59.160 was the absolute coldest game I'd ever been to. That 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:00.920 was that was ter was just that was just wrong. 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.600 That was just want to play, like, man, can we 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:08.920 just like moved us the next running clock were getting 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:11.280 I was like, hey, why are we throwing this? Just 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:14.200 running the ball? The ball? That's the worst of rain 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:18.640 and wind. Yeah. So you you've heard, you've heard the fans, 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:22.840 you've seen the media reports that the way the weather 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:24.520 was that New England knew how to play in it, 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.480 and the Cowboys were ready to go. I remember Dak 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:29.080 it was a third down pass and he's with police 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:30.880 are right there and then he changed the gloves. So 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.119 a lot of criticism coming for the Cowboys and how 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:36.680 they handled the weather. Um not going outside Jason Garrett 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:38.400 and talked about on his show Monday, I Want to 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:42.160 Fight three the Fan with Sean and rj Um. Rob 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:46.280 Gonnkowski was killing him on Fox talking about that. So, uh, 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:48.280 what are your thoughts? Was it raining? Out of it? 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.639 It was raining? Was it cold? It was going on Wednesday? 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.080 I think it was. No, I don't think so. I 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:54.440 was looking at the window. I don't think it was 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.119 raining the cup. You know, you already know what I'm 0:02:56.120 --> 0:03:01.680 going to listen, Wait, whose faulted? Is it that that 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.200 glove got whether he wanted to change his gloves? Is 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.239 that j G and the fault? Or is that that 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.640 he was outside where he did pre game? He did everything, 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:11.480 you know, two hours before the game and all that stuff. 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.400 He decided to put on what he had on and 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:15.200 then it just didn't work out for him, so he 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.959 had to switch. Is that correct? Yes, he and Blake 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.520 jar would also changed oh yeah something. But that's that's 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:26.359 the player's fault, right. Man was out there two hours 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:30.240 before the game started and he warmed up through the passes, 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.679 did everything that he possibly could do to getting ready 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:36.960 for the game, and he decided to go with that. Know, 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.840 they not expected me saying everybody saying that. J G 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:44.200 Post said, Hey, Dak, they can't be saying the gloves 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.920 with the with the with with a little bit to 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:51.000 believe people of blaming that on. So apparently as former players, 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.960 you guys, you're not read you're not reading social media. 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:59.360 I read you could read it. But I'm saying responsibility 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.600 of putting on the correct gear comes out to the player. 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.640 That's why you show up two hours early, three hours 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:06.240 early to the game, so you can go test out 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.120 what you have to see what works best, works good 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.520 on the ground, the warmert stuff, I'll get your hand 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:13.280 one was ready and get all that that is on 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:17.000 the player, and then messages communicated to them before they 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.560 get there. Hey, get on the early bus so you 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.640 can go out there and see what the field is like. 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:26.200 That is communicated. Jerry Jones, the owner, spoke afterwards. I 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:30.280 was there as well. I heard that. So in talking 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.040 about what you say, he spoke about how, hey, they 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:36.800 handled the elements better than we did. So that's when 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.080 when when the man in charge who writes the checks 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.600 comes out and talks about coaching and also talks about 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.200 how they handled the elements and and he's basically saying 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.000 he feel like we had the Cowboys didn't handle the elements. 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:50.800 Oh yes, well mistakes to the point of the gear 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.880 that's on the players, not to the point of game 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:57.480 playing and being ready for certain stuff basketball coaching, and 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.960 I think he was one hundred percent of talking about coaching, 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:01.960 and we know that they were talking about one hundred 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.680 special teams all right, well no, well no, he even 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.200 talked about how, yeah, we've got to put together all 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:12.120 three phases. I mean, look, offense couldn't score touchdown and 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.359 then you have special teams. So you lost two or 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:20.160 three phases in Foxborough against a team that, in my opinion, 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.960 if you just line up talent for talent, I think 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.800 the Cowboys have more talent than this New England team. Right, 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:29.240 But are we saying that the Patriots out coached the Cowboys? 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.680 The owners said on what though on to me mostly 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:37.039 mostly on special teams. The mess ups on special teams 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:40.120 put those guys offense in position to go out there 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.120 and make the places they did to get that one 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:45.920 lone score. Us missing field goals put us in position 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:47.719 to have to go and try to score touchdown like 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:52.200 special teams was the catalyst to me. This game for 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.320 causing us to lose, all right, I could say that, Yeah, 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:57.400 I can agree with that. We talk about it. We're 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.839 talking about in position. When you get into two elements 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:01.719 to game with the elements like that and they're crazy 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.880 and it's winning, you can't throw it. Field position is 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:05.280 a big part of the game. You played the field 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:09.040 position battle. So Danny McCree, if anyone's new to the 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.440 players lives Danny McCree. Special teams, uh demon when he 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.760 was here. Barry is an undrafted free agent. You had 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:19.480 to get on special teams. So when you were watching 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:24.599 the game, what were you seeing, especially on the pump lock. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.400 It's just miscommunication to me, um, when you're on that 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.160 pump when you're on that pump protection team. I mean 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:30.599 I was winging on that team, so I knew all 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:32.560 about the different type of Russians, the eight man boxes 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:34.159 you're going to see, and what the person will protect 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.280 the US to see and where he's accountable for what. 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.000 But it's just a miscommunication. When you're going into that game, 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.360 I pretty much assume, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.159 But everybody's pointing out Matthew Slider, I mean he's he's 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.720 been doing it for ten years, the pro bowler pointing 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:48.560 them out. You got to communicate where he is at 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.200 all times. And if you're if you're in front of 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.480 that that punt protection team, you point them out. I 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.560 mean you point out Bolden, you point out later find 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:57.200 those two guys got the strength on this side or 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.080 the strengths on that side, and you find those two 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.080 premier pass ushers. I mean, it goes for that for 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.760 every special team. And I didn't quite see how he 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.160 got in there, but he had to get in there 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.440 pretty quick. He got it. So he lined up over 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.960 the tackle and the tackle got a bad set um 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.680 and he pretty much just went underneath the hand that 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:17.680 he stuck out. And the tackle was Joe Thomas. Joe Thomas, 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.720 and they attacked him. They saw something gonna tape and 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.920 they attacked the attack him, and he didn't do the 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.320 right technique and he got beat and slater even though 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:27.960 he did get a hand on him. Him being the 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.160 special player that he is and being as great as 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.080 he is and having all that experience, he was able 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:35.160 to just have the perfect hand out and still get 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.640 a hand Say that's more of a coaching era, because 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:39.720 I'm sure the coaches were telling them, boys, y'all gotta 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.560 know where this guy is at all times. But it's 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.600 gonna fall on the coaches. But the player made the bad. 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.160 I tell you to play cover too, And we coached 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:51.160 this all week in the same number. And you jump 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.600 and you jump a dig route. Yeah, they're gonna say 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:57.080 that's bad coaching, but you you made them bad. And 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:01.680 we've been seeing a lot of that this communication. Some 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.920 of those are not bad decisions. They but it all 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:08.400 comes down to that fair that is that is uh, 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.160 that is one. The ball ain't traveled past the twenty 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.600 yard line on a kickoff, and my boy was all 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.160 the way back in the middle of the end zone, 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.440 was just chilling. That's that's bad coaching. That's that's a 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:22.760 lack of community. Got you on the side. The winds blowing, 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.000 you're kicking to the winds raining, they're not kicking the 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.760 ball for no touch back. Screwed up. Screwed up, was like, 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:30.680 and what the third or the fourth question? Screwed up? Man. 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:36.160 You gotta have adjustments, man. So Troy been criticized. He 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.320 criticized the Now I was I was, I was watching, 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.640 you know, I was there, But you know, obviously we 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.559 go back you listening, Troy was criticizing the coaching and 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:48.920 and look, I have been covering many Cowboy games and 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.720 did many oppressions with Jerry Jones afterwards. Okay, I'm going 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:56.360 back to when Jimmy was here, Barry was here. I 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:02.240 can't recall another time where he was that up set. Y. Yes, 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.000 Jerry was that upset. And I just walked out of 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.240 there thinking, if you're Keith o quinn, you got a problem. 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.760 You got a problem, because he all he said, it's coaching, 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.280 he said, call, he said, this is on coaching, Hudson, 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.360 and then the way and the things sometimes people say 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.839 things without saying them. He praised Bill Belichick and special teams. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.880 Bill came into the league as a special team's coach. 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.240 And you see when you got guys like Matthew Slater Bold, 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.320 those guys aren't on the team to do anything else 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.560 other than play those special teams that they put a 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:33.960 priority there. And he said, we Oh my bad, good. Sorry, No, 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.120 I'm just I'm just telling what he No, no, I'm saying, 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:39.040 did we put a priority? All right? I just out 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.040 there a little bit. Well, well, you know, let's discuss it. 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.640 Then she she went there, let's discuss historically. No, we 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:47.280 don't know. We haven't put it enough emphasis on getting 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.400 those type of special steams players. It's kind of like, 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.160 whoever we have left over to that place, say they're 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.240 running back or whatever, who's not trying to three or 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.240 four those are the guys. And then you have teams 0:09:56.280 --> 0:10:00.079 who historically have paid one to two specialties players to 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:04.240 do exactly that. Just play teams, no other responsibility. Ultimore 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.800 Ravens do it. New England does it. Yeah. Eric Williams 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:11.400 was in Shottown and all he did was that's it. 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.480 It's interesting. He said that I was talking to Rick Goslin, 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:17.400 and Goslin Hall of Fame writer uh wrote about that 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.880 how the Patriots have four guys and all these four 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.760 guys spect the special teams guys. Then he says, you 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.679 got to put a priority there on that, and and 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:28.719 he felt like with just what you said that the 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.679 Cowboys aren't looking at Hey, what can one you know 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.080 that the guy has to be either be doing something 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.560 offense or defense especial versus, Hey, look, can this guy 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.520 get down here and do some of the things you're saying, 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:42.520 Like a Matthew Slater because in my opinion, the block 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.400 punt was the turning point in the That was it, 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.000 I mean, that was that was a game Belichick said 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:48.559 it was. It was this. Well, well, so you know, 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:52.240 Belichick didn't help uh Ko either by saying, yeah, we 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.360 uh we knew they wouldn't be able to handle the elements. 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:58.439 So we kind of worked on that and got everybody 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.560 and it started with Troy and enjoy at anyone there, 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:02.079 and he opened the flood. What they call it a 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:07.440 hat trick three. This is three tips where the top 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.640 topic or the most talked about, most discussed topical Minnesota 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.120 and I mean, and the one thing that about special 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.120 teams is it's better to go unnoticed to where nobody 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.200 talking about you. You punt it how you're supposed to punt. 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.520 You know, you got some touchbacks whatever, and then nobody 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.760 recognized suposed to Like when new he goes into the 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.600 locker room and he doesn't see nobody, don't say nothing. 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.440 But that's a good saying. That's a good one, right, 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.360 But that's when you had a decent special teams game. 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.360 You want three weeks in a row. Obviously, when it's 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.680 negative negative, this is when you're talking about frustrations from Jerry. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.480 He see the same thing we're seeing. He like, if 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.680 if it's anything that I'm supposed to be worried about, 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:48.040 all right, it's not special special teams costing us the game. 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.800 You block, you get a pump block. They score. A 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.079 couple of games ago, we fair catch on and we 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.360 have a chance to win the game, and we fair 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.559 catch and have to throw a hell Mary. This is 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.079 two critical moments in the game where you like, Hey, 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.240 I don't got to worry about my defense playing good, 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.080 my quarterback doing interceptual, any of that. I'm worried about 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.200 if we're gonna make the right play on special teams. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.719 I'm not supposed to be holding my breath when we 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:16.760 have a fourth down and were punting up. I'm not 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:18.599 supposed it's not supposed to be there. I supposed to 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.000 be going to give me a drink or something. You know, 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:21.920 I'm supposed to be shaking hands with the person I'm 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.319 sitting next to him. I don't know right now. He 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:25.840 gotta look at the game all day now, Like, man, 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:30.719 I don't know we're about to punt broke back. This 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.080 same man, he was on the way to the bathroom. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:37.040 He got that, he's I thought, I'm about to sit 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:42.640 right back on the bed up that. I guarantee you this. 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.439 Every every Cowboys fan now will be paying attention to 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:48.920 every special team play. They're going you cut the commercial 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.400 before kickover, they're gonna go off. I'm gonna come back. 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.280 Don't cut the commercial. Everybody's paying attention to the supposed 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.720 to seas now so that you know you gotta quick 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:02.080 turn around on Thursday. I don't know how much can 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.600 be redeemed from the special team. Got the number one 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:08.280 kick up, that's the next next thing that's going to 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.319 hit on this This is uh. You could arguably say 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.560 this is the best special teams club in the NFL 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:17.120 that's coming to town on Thursday. And yes, not to 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.760 look forward before you keep on going on there. It's 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:23.160 too many weeks for ko because Cardarol Patterson is next. 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.480 Don't getting no easier, ain't getting easier. Don't get no easier. 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:31.880 And screwed up. We had been in Chicago to win, 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:35.319 to be blowing. Hey, screwed up to the ten big 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.160 it's something out from Please, I don't want what you said. 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.920 My boy walking into the into the game, sweating twenty 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:46.360 degrees outside. What's the sweating? Do it right, man, Just 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.560 do it right? Does he think right? Man? Because because 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.120 I like him? I like him, I mean I like 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.040 him as a person. He's always, you know, been cool 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.520 with me. We've always had a good conversation. But you know, 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.880 at this point, when you're playing bad, then you gotta 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:01.320 do what you gotta do. The punk block my notes 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:02.880 that I kept from the game. So it happened at 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:04.920 one to thirty seven in the game. So it's a 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:08.640 fourth and twelve punt block. New England gets the football 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.319 with one twenty eight to go in the first quarter, 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.840 first and ten. Sony Michelle with the run two yards, 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.520 second and eight at the ten yard line, touchdown in 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.120 to Kiel Harry, his first touchdown in the game. Great kids, 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.920 m we've been losing a lot of those. Was a 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.400 great kiss he got the kids. So he beat He 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.320 beat Byron Jones on that become the seventy fifth player 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.760 to catch a touchdown pass from Tom Brady and his career, 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:36.840 so seventy five different dudes ball. So it's seven to nothing. 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:43.840 Cowboys get the ball back and um but Blake Jarwin 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:48.280 ended up fumbling got it back then it goes into 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.720 the second quarter, so as Cowboys still had the ball, 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:52.360 so that was the first and ten from the eighteen. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.680 Blake Jarwin fumbles it did his second and m second 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:57.920 and two from the twenty sixth they run it to 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.600 Ezekiel Elliott no yards, third and two at the twenty 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:04.640 six Gilmour picks off Dak Prescott and then New England 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.520 gets the ball back at the twenty nine of the 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:10.360 Cowboys and one, two, three, four plays later to field goal. 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.080 So it's it's ten to nothing right there. So they 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:15.160 get the ball the twenty nine second drive. In the 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.680 first drive they got it, but after the pump block 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:21.720 they got it around the same area pump block they 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.440 got it at the twelve on the interception they got 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.560 at the twenty nine, So twelve and twenty nine starting 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:31.600 starting field position. Yeah, I think played well. I didn't 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.760 say I don't like four yards of pop from Sony, 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:39.280 but other than that, yeah, yeah, they played good. Look 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:44.160 So so this this whole in a game where points 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.360 for at a premium and touchdowns of the premiucus, the 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:48.560 Cowboys didn't score one in the thirteen to nine loss. 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.840 Um special teams played that big part and now a 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.520 whole lot of fans just what you're saying, who may 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.840 have been casual fans know the name keitho quinn and 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:02.480 that's not a good thing. They know my her. We 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:07.560 didn't mention he missed as well. Now can I defend her? 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.280 Oh please listen for listen, I'm not here to beat 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:15.120 now pointing out what's what's what's going on? Its miss. 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.840 It was tough out there that the way that wind 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.960 was going, I mean, it just it was taking balls away. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.000 You know. It just taught me Nick Folk, former cowboy 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.520 kicker here. You know Nick Folk, we've seen the Nick's 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:27.840 a good kicker. I mean, it was it was coming 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.360 away from him, so it was it was hard. Do 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.720 you expect them to make the kicks if you're a kicker? 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.360 How long was that one? It was like forty forty 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.760 sixty forty six, I mean and checkman notes here what 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:40.720 I'll say it was forty six. But even so, the 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:44.560 length versus the rain, and it's coming from the side 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:49.440 of any anything, anything, anytime you were going over thirty five, 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:51.720 it was it was tough. Let me ask you this, 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.280 do you think Jerry cares? Do you think he took 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.920 that into account when he decided to when he sees 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.280 the specialties playing as well, he counted that as a 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.160 miss kick. And that's something else they go on. That 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:06.359 did not help when he went into the coaching and 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.480 talked about how they were out coached, and and he 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:09.959 even said to me, he says, when you come here, 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.159 I think you expect to be out coached. I've never 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:13.760 heard that. I've never heard that before. But I asked 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:15.680 him the question, you like, you're out coach, Well, you 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:17.680 come in here, I think you're gonna you should expect it. 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.920 But with his history deal, I can understand why he 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.840 possibly feels that way. So you know, Rich Besaccia is 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:27.280 the former Cowboys special teams coach who left here to 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.639 go out to Oakland John Group right now, and and 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.159 Besancia also was a special teams coach for gruten when 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.119 they won a Super Bowl and down there in Tampa. 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.480 But I do think that you guys, you brought up 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:41.800 a point in terms of do you have the best 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:45.560 players playing special teams. I go back to Lord's Taylor. 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:49.040 You know, Taylor had to play special teams for Bill Parcels. 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.520 When Bill was here, he was making you know he 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:53.640 was making some of the best players play special teams. 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.400 That's that's something that Bill Parcels, I mean, Bill Belichick 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.840 also kind of took from Parcels that, hey, look, you 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.360 know what we need good play. You started just kind 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.600 of starting year. Yeah. Yeah, we had like Sean Lee 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.399 was on. There wasn't returning punks like we had the 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.040 best players on this brook man. I guess it's just 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.480 a different philosophy. Yeah, it's different now and now I 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:13.960 guess the way that people structure structure to wash the 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:17.639 rosters is that money is saved for you know the 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:19.879 upper Yeah, right, so you figure you just get some 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:21.800 young guys to go out there and play teams or 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:23.320 if you draft them in the fourth and fifth round 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.639 and they're gonna play teams and be a whatever. Some 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.720 of these guys even never played special teams in college. 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:30.680 Yeah they was a superstar. So it's not even in 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.159 their forte to do this, but it's like what they 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.080 have to because if you running back number three on 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:37.800 this team, you're not playing running back. You gotta be 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.480 able to be able to come be a cover of kids. 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:44.239 I do want to let you know, so today being Tuesday, um, 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.040 the Cowboys players were in the locker room. Because it's 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:48.680 a short week, they were made available to meet it 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:52.960 to that I wouldn't talk to CJ. There we go. 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.240 Did you have a personal conversation did you like get 0:18:56.640 --> 0:19:00.240 you hadn't get some love on the mit? Yes, okay, Yeah, 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.960 I interviewed. I interviewed to ask them about that with 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:07.920 the bump block and other stuff. Yes, yes, And we 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:10.520 spoke to Jeff Heath as well. So you're trying to 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:15.000 get their thought on a puplock situation. Uh. Jeff was 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:17.200 a good teammate, talked about you know as the mistakes 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.040 and got to clean up the mistakes. And when asked 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.480 about you know what Jerry said about the coaching, he said, yeah, 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:24.920 we hear it and we take it personal. We want 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:26.880 to we want to clean up the area. So I mean, Jeff, 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:32.600 I think fans get mad at Jeff Heath for his 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:36.960 safety play, and to me, Jeff Heath reminds me a 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.399 lot of some of the guys that they used to 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:42.080 have on the Cowboys Super Bowl teams, where you know, 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:45.119 they were backup players, and I think Jeff Heath is 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.879 a is a valuable backup player as a safety. But 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:50.800 a vital special teams guy. If they had someone else 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:53.679 here starting, you would you would not be putting as 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:56.760 much emphasis on Jeff. He's where fans are always mad. 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:59.280 He's not this, he's not that. But at the end 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:00.840 of the day, it's not like you, this is a 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.240 first round draft pick you're talking about here. You're not 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:05.239 talking about a guy that they signed to come over 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.840