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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to our number two of the Drive here

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. We're glad you found us however

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Speaker 2: you did so, we appreciate it. And uh, well, Matt,

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Speaker 2: it's time for us to mock draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I keep mocking it up.

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Speaker 2: Mock it up. Today we're going to use the Pro

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Speaker 2: Footballnetwork dot Com mock drafter for our guy. Tony Pauline

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Speaker 2: joins us every year at the at the combine and

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Speaker 2: the first nineteen picture in. We have one trade offer here, alrighty,

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Speaker 2: it is the forty nine ers on the.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, long way to go, but you can get

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Speaker 3: some good stuff in the process.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're offering thirty one, sixty three and next year's

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Speaker 2: second for twenty and ninety eight. I am not inclined

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Speaker 2: to make.

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Speaker 3: That out if it was not ninety. But you said

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Speaker 3: ninety eight. You lost me at ninety eight. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: know when I was the three for one. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I consider that, but I'm not throwing a ninety eight. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Also, uh, you have to look here, I'm gonna reject

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Speaker 2: on that. Okay, the guys available, yeah, j C. Latham, Nice,

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Speaker 2: Himarius mims Byron Murphy, Chop Robinson, Nate Wiggans, Cooper Dejean, Nice, Graham,

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Speaker 2: Barton Jackson, Powers Johnson, there's I mean, yeah, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: mind moving back a little bit there, but if we

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Speaker 2: did that, we probably lose out on Latham.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't love moving away from him. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I really think Fuagga and Latham are I'm not listening

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Speaker 3: to trade off for guys.

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Speaker 2: Plug and play long term.

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Speaker 3: Even Fat to me is really close to that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: like you'd have to blow my doors off of the trade.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm just sticking and picking if those guys

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Speaker 3: are there.

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Speaker 2: JC Latham is the guy. Yeah, Yeah, I mean that's

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Speaker 2: that's a nice pick. Sprint it up to the posim

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Speaker 2: let's go all right, so in real time, a real

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Speaker 2: world here, we may have made a trade up here

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Speaker 2: because the Eagles took Zach Fraser one pick ahead of us, Okay,

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Speaker 2: but that we didn't move up here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'd love to give him a second round,

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Speaker 3: but I'm going to sleep at night if the Steelers

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Speaker 3: don't take him at fifty one. Yeah, I mean there's

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Speaker 3: other paths to that.

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Speaker 2: So we have to trade offer again here to get

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Speaker 2: up to fifty one. We have two of them. Actually,

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals are offering pitch picks sixty six and ninety

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Speaker 2: for fifty one. Oh bad, Okay, that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 2: Also on the phone are the Bengals. Well, we don't

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Speaker 2: speak to you, guys. They're offering pick eighty next year

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Speaker 2: second and next year's sixth. We're gonna reject. Yeah, we do.

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Speaker 2: We like that Cardinals pick enough?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Or should we at least look at season I

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Speaker 3: think we should see if there's somebody there that you

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Speaker 3: have to take. Yeah, I mean Fraser just went.

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Speaker 2: Fraser just went, so that that would yeah.

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Speaker 3: That would have been nice, of course.

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Speaker 2: All right, So Tyler Neuban is there to and Andrew

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Speaker 2: the aforementionedro.

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Speaker 3: That would be my favorite so far. Yeah, Xavier Leget

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Speaker 3: not bad.

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Speaker 2: Leonard Taylor, No, Chris Braswell, Cameron Keinchins, Patrick, Paul Michael Hall,

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Speaker 2: Kamari Lassiter, Brayln Trice, lass would be interesting, yeah, Braylen Trice,

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Speaker 2: Ben Sinnett, Chris Jenkins, Malachai Corley.

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Speaker 3: I'm really torn now between Ruke and Jenkins as my

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Speaker 3: third defensive tackle. I like both. I'd consider both of

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Speaker 3: them in this spot. Lassiter was interesting. Yeah, and there

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Speaker 3: was one other player, oh leget the guests area. How

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Speaker 3: did we take the trade though?

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking to see what else at Braden Fisk is.

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Speaker 3: Still there's three defensive linemen, three.

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Speaker 2: Defensive line of Roman Wilson still there, figured to be received,

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Speaker 2: Ricky Piarsol still there, Cole Bishop still there. So there's

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Speaker 2: there's dudes there. If we move back. What was that

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Speaker 3: I think pretty far back.

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Speaker 2: I think it was ten. That's sixty fifteen spots to

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Speaker 3: I mean there'll be one of the d linemen or

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Speaker 3: one of the receivers. We would thopefully you would think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'd also pick up that extra. That ninety's gonna

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Speaker 3: Let's do it and see how it falls, all right.

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Speaker 2: I must just want to take a look here and

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Speaker 2: see who they moved up to get the Bengals game

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Speaker 2: trying to make a trade of this now, all right,

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Speaker 2: So they came up to get at fifty one Cameron kinchins, Fine, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we weren't taking it. Then Kamari lasted went at fifty two,

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Speaker 2: he would Tyler Newban. They went to the Eagles, the

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Speaker 2: Browns then Toil Chris Braswell. Lagett went at fifty five

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Speaker 2: to South to the Panthers. Leonard Taylor went at fifty six,

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Speaker 2: brayln Trice went, Braden Fisk went, Chris Abrams, Drain went,

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Speaker 2: Marshawn Nelan went, like Corley went, and then Ruke Roro,

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Speaker 2: Christian Mahagary Mahogany, Cedric Gray, Michael Hall.

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Speaker 3: We did get in that hard though. There was like

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Speaker 3: three or four names there. I would have loved this

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Speaker 3: stuck around, but we're gonna playing the pick from here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you got defensive lineman. Sweat is still there.

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Speaker 3: I would take Jenkins over. Jenkins is still there, and

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Speaker 3: two of them went. So, I mean, I think it's

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Speaker 3: kind of now we're never on the lineman.

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Speaker 2: Fisk is still there.

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Speaker 3: I thought he went.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Fisk went. Oh yeah he did. I'm

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Speaker 2: he went to green Bay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jenkins is still there at the cornerback position. You're

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Speaker 2: looking at DJ James Ronardo Green like Sanestril still there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's a good, good selection. Yeah, I'm sure there's

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Speaker 3: others too. I mean, this is the corner market.

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Speaker 2: Josh Newton is there. He's the guy we haven't talked about. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a lot. But Andrew Phillips still.

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Speaker 3: There, maybe definitely fat Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Kyrie Jackson, cam Hart, Jerry and Jones.

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Speaker 3: How long do we have between this pick and the

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Speaker 3: next one?

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Speaker 2: This is picked sixty six, we pick again at eighty four,

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Speaker 2: then we have ninety and ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: Nice, I bet we could wait on a corner. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'd be really interested the receivers. The receivers still Jenkins.

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Speaker 2: Roman Wilson is there, Ricky Pearsall, Jaylen McMillan, devontees Walker,

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Speaker 2: Johnny Wilson, Jermaine Burton, Malik Washington, Jamari Thrash, Brendan Rice.

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Speaker 3: I really like Burton, Pearsall, and Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that defensive tackle. If we don't do that,

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Speaker 2: now we're probably not going to get one. Probably not well,

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Speaker 2: So you got Jenkins is still there, Masson Smith is

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Speaker 2: still there. Nice, McKinley, Jackson, Dwayne Carter, McKay, Wingo, Tyler Davis,

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Speaker 3: It's a tough decision. Yeah, I wouldn't go corner, but

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Speaker 3: I'd be torn.

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Speaker 2: Wide receiver defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's what it comes down to. Do

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Speaker 3: we agree Jenkins over Massan Smith?

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Speaker 2: Do we want to try to trade up and get

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Speaker 2: two of these we can get because we got an

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Speaker 2: extra pick around?

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Speaker 3: And I would say take Jenkins now, okay, and really

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Speaker 3: monitor the receiver situation because there was like three receivers

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Speaker 3: I could live with.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm so, let's is Washington gonna take a

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Speaker 2: receiver who knows they could have everything? Are the Patriots

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Speaker 2: going to take a receiver? Maybe Dallas? Maybe good? So

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Speaker 2: let's talk to Washington. They get to pick sixty seven.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if we can if we can make that trade,

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Speaker 2: now take them both and then take them both back

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Speaker 2: to back.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna prefer fine with that. But I also

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Speaker 3: wouldn't mind taking Jenkins and talking to a team three

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Speaker 3: picks from now, because there's three receivers we like.

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Speaker 2: True, we can we can talk to them all. So

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Speaker 2: if we're if we're gonna offer.

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Speaker 3: We got an extra pick, would that extra pick do it?

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Speaker 2: Let's see if we canna offer ninety and one ninety

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Speaker 2: five all right, and see if they'll well, they take

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Speaker 2: that for sixty seven now.

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Speaker 3: I would bet not.

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Speaker 2: Probably not.

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Speaker 3: We could throw in a future fifth though, we got

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Speaker 3: tons of that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not gonna get it done. I'm gonna try

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Speaker 2: in here, Washington, you're on the we're on the We

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Speaker 2: can go to said we offered ninety eight. We can

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Speaker 2: go to ninety that's a pick that we picked up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he goes sixty seven. We could offer ninety and

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Speaker 2: one seventy eight.

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Speaker 3: I would be fine with any of those.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if that that's been rejected. All right, well,

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Speaker 2: let's let's beg our pick. We want to take ch

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Speaker 2: Set Jenkins.

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Speaker 3: And then maybe put on like slow mode so we can.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can't do that now that we've started.

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Speaker 3: Oh he doesn't or posit in three or four picks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I did posit here we're down to Washington

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Speaker 2: took Patrick Paul, the Patriots took Jayalen McMillan, The Cowboys

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Speaker 2: took Peyton Wilson, Cole Bishop to the Giants, Junior Colson

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Speaker 2: to the Cardinals. The Jets are on the clock.

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Speaker 3: Here still three receivers we like, right.

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Speaker 2: Let me Yeah, so Roman Wilson, Ricky Piersall, and I

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Speaker 2: like Burton a lot. Yeah, I don't like him as

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Speaker 2: much as I like this other.

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Speaker 3: Time, I would take the other two ahead of him,

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Speaker 3: I think. Yeah, doing to offer the Jets something, Let's try.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't hurt to try, all right, So the

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Speaker 2: Jets where you at here?

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Speaker 3: And I think we definitely want to keep one of

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Speaker 3: those thirds for a slot corner.

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Speaker 2: All right, So we're going to offer they get seventy two,

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Speaker 2: do we offer eighty four here, we'll get a corner

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Speaker 2: back at ninety and ninety eight?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go eighty four.

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Speaker 2: And then one ninety five. I think it's fair.

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Speaker 3: We're going to twelve spots.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't carry a lot of weight, but I mean moving

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Speaker 2: up twelve spots.

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Speaker 3: Oh, let's offer it.

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Speaker 2: They rejected that. Okay, we'll go again.

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Speaker 3: What if we threw in a future fifth?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Jets confirm eighty four. Let's see if they'll do

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Speaker 2: it for one seventy eight for seventy two. That's that's

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Speaker 2: been a jay. Okay, Now I'll look at some one more,

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Speaker 2: one more, one more, try all right, we want to

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Speaker 2: give you eighty four. We'll give you one seventy eight,

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Speaker 2: and we get four to sevenths next year, I know

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Speaker 2: they're seventh. Yeah, we've only we got two fifths. We

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Speaker 2: have no six, So what if we go more than that? Yeah? Well,

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Speaker 2: some of our mock drafts before them. What if I

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Speaker 2: try to give up Washington's that's the one everybody wanted before.

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Speaker 3: Was Washington seven seventh. I don't mind losing it.

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Speaker 2: All for seventy two. That's eighty four, one, seventy eight,

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Speaker 2: and next year's seven. That's been rejected.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna let it run. Let three or

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Speaker 3: four packs go by.

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Speaker 2: Okay. The Jets took Brady to Andandre Sweat went to

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Speaker 2: the Texans the offensive Teckle went to seven at seventy four,

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Speaker 2: Ben Sinnett at seventy five. The Ravens just took Kaylen Bullock.

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Speaker 2: We're at seventy seven. Now, what's our pick? Eighty fourty four?

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Speaker 2: We're within seven picks here?

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Speaker 3: You want to keep your fingers crossed. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: So the Raiders we get between us, the Raiders, Washington again,

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Speaker 2: the Falcons, the Bengals, Seahawks, Colts, Rams, and then US.

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Speaker 3: I mean, anybody could take a receiver.

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Speaker 2: They could us.

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Speaker 3: We're not gonna study their drafts and see what they

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna try to get up one shot here. Yeah, say,

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Speaker 2: let's i'd really at this point like to get Roman

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Speaker 3: I say, it'd be great. I mean, I'd be happy

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Speaker 3: with any of the three if we especially we're not

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Speaker 3: trading up, but I mean Wilson, Pearsoll, Burt. I mean,

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Speaker 3: those guys are lock of the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Add on here, we're at Raiders, Raiders, Raiders, Raiders.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this shouldn't cost a fortune.

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Speaker 2: Again, it shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we shouldn't be a similar deal with let's off

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Speaker 3: from that eighty pick.

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Speaker 2: Eighty four, one ninety you can go once one seventy

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Speaker 2: I don't care.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, one.

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Speaker 2: Seventy eight for seventy seven.

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Speaker 3: Mm hm.

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Speaker 2: They rejected it, all right, all right, let him rull

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Speaker 2: stop it again. There they took Jeremiah Trotter, Braylen Allen went,

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Speaker 2: then Dadrian Taylor, Demison, Blake Quorum. Seattle's were within three picks.

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Speaker 3: Here, where do you get one of the three? No,

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Speaker 3: there's three picks that I mean they could go three receivers.

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Speaker 2: There'll be three receivers right off them.

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Speaker 3: That would break our heart.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Seattle's taking a receiver though probably not.

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Speaker 2: The Colts could though, in between, and then the Rams.

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Speaker 3: I bet my bottom dollar we'll get one of those three,

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Speaker 3: all right. I mean, I'm gonna let I know you

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Speaker 3: don't like Burton as much as the other, but it

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Speaker 3: might be Burton.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna reject our trade offers because guess what we

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Speaker 2: made it.

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Speaker 3: Still available, all still available.

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Speaker 2: Wilson, Wilson, Thank Roman, Wilson's thank He's very good.

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Speaker 3: It's like the best feeling ever when you try to

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Speaker 3: trade up.

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Speaker 2: And then and we still have all these picks now

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Speaker 2: right right right, all right? With the Bears running from

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Speaker 2: we don't guy.

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Speaker 3: So we have Jenkins and Wilson no room together, and

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Speaker 3: we have Latham.

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Speaker 2: Yes, beautiful, all right, we're up here at ninety. This

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Speaker 2: is our extra pick that we got for.

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Speaker 3: We've got to think about a slot. Well, we definitely

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Speaker 3: were going to have to draft a slot. I would

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Speaker 3: think about some centers. It might be a little early

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Speaker 3: for that.

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Speaker 2: Mike sant Astral is still there.

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Speaker 3: Nice. We're just gonna have a whole Michigan together, give

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Speaker 3: them a whole corner of care. I think that's the pick,

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Speaker 3: but I also think a second receiver at some point

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Speaker 3: might not there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Pierce all went, so I.

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Speaker 3: Think Sanstril's the pick, though, I mean, is there any

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Speaker 3: other names that are looking at you? I mean that

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Speaker 3: one jumps off the page.

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Speaker 2: At cornerback you get the DJ James Santa Stril, Josh Newton,

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Speaker 2: Andrew Phillips. So there are some slot types there that

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Speaker 2: even if we waited here, because we have another pick

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Speaker 2: coming up at ninety eight and.

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Speaker 3: What numbers is this is ninety who Okay, so there

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Speaker 3: will be a slot I bet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So if some other positions blowing our doors off, if

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Speaker 3: we can get Awa from Santa true.

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Speaker 2: So let's take a look at that center position. Bordellen

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Speaker 2: would be Bordolini, Limmer, nor z Ed.

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Speaker 3: One of them is definitely gonna be there next round.

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Speaker 2: They'll probably be there. Yeah, we'll pick again at one

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Speaker 2: nineteen those Yeah, one of those guys will still be there.

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Speaker 3: And definitely their next pick, they'll be there. And one

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Speaker 3: of the same receivers still there.

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Speaker 2: It's Johnny Wilson, Jermaine Burton, Malik Washington, Jamari Thrash, Brendan Rice,

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Speaker 2: Jacob Cowing.

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Speaker 3: I would consider any of them. McCaffrey's but still there.

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Speaker 3: Javon Baker still there. I like Baker a lot too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think he takes sanstrul.

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Speaker 2: Thank you takes sans Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank he jumps out.

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Speaker 2: I think he becomes a top he certainly. I think

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Speaker 2: as a rookie he'll be a top ten slot cornerback

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Speaker 2: in the league. He might be number one within two years.

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Speaker 3: All these Michigan guys that we could do to pursue

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Speaker 3: it too.

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Speaker 2: Oh be so much fun? Is the pick?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: We're back up here now and uh at ninety eight

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Speaker 2: the Bears want to make a an offer. Yeah all right,

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Speaker 2: Massan Smith went one pick of Anisoda Taed Bordolini also

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Speaker 2: off the board.

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Speaker 3: So I still like those group of receivers.

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Speaker 2: At wide receiver. You've got Burton, Malike Washington, Jamuri Thrash,

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Speaker 2: Brandon Rice, Jacob Cowing, Javon Baker, and Luke McCaffrey. Tys.

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Speaker 2: Washington is also still.

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Speaker 3: And there's like five guys there that I really really like.

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Speaker 2: We get another pick at one nineteen coming up, Let's

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Speaker 2: see what the best available is. Y Yeah, Brandon Dorius,

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Speaker 2: Will Shipley, Jatavian Sanders, DJ James McKinley, Jackson, Dwayne Carter,

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Speaker 2: Austin Booker, Bucky Irving, Spencer Rattler, Cay Stover, Blake Fisher

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Speaker 2: still available, we get double down. It off to do

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Speaker 2: for you might be a guard for us next year,

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Speaker 2: or if Latham doesn't work out and he has to

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Speaker 2: bump into guard.

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Speaker 3: Next LA guard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's we still haven't if we still

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Speaker 2: haven't solved our center issue right now?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean you could ask Daniels to play center,

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Speaker 3: and then I drafted guard and not another tackle. I

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Speaker 3: hear what you're saying. I think I'd rather go a

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Speaker 3: receiver because Fisher only. I don't even know if Fisher

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Speaker 3: can play guard. I mean, like he's to me, he's

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Speaker 3: a right tackle.

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Speaker 2: He might be a right tackle, and you bump your

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Speaker 2: number one pick into.

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Speaker 3: I'm leaving him at right tackle.

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Speaker 2: I understand.

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Speaker 3: That's like my favorite right tackle prospect for draft. I'm

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Speaker 3: messing with him. I like the receivers is safety. I

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Speaker 3: would have some interest in.

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Speaker 2: Uh Tyke Smith? Is there a lot of po from

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Speaker 2: Oregon State is there? Carlos from Missouri. The Missouri defense

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Speaker 2: must have been sneaky too good. Yeah yeah, Kenny Logan

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Speaker 2: from my Kansas Evan Williams, I did none that. Nobody

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Speaker 2: blows my doors off there?

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Speaker 3: Who's the best into your euro lineman? Even if it

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Speaker 3: was a guard you're looking at probably like Norsad, Brandon

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Speaker 3: Coleman is there? I like Brandon Coleman's.

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Speaker 2: Mason McCormick is there.

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Speaker 3: I really like Mason McCormick. I think he's gonna be

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Speaker 3: a center. But his testing was great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Zach Zinter is still there.

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Speaker 3: Interesting for another day, but really interesting. McCormick might be

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Speaker 3: your storting center though.

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Speaker 2: Bo Limmer, Hunter Norzad those are the top center prospects available.

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Speaker 3: I would rank them McCormick Norzad, Limmur.

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Speaker 2: Do we go there now?

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: Mason McCormack welcome to the team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good pickup. So more and more

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Speaker 3: I'm getting the impression that he's very, very center capable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're back up at one nineteen. The Vikings are

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Speaker 2: on the phone. They're offering one twenty nine and one

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Speaker 2: sixty seven useful.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what we're gonna do with all these picks.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we don't have room.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's see if let's see if we count of that,

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Speaker 2: because we'll still get a receiver. I would think that'll.

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Speaker 3: We don't have to draft another receiver.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't mind flipping this one ninety five

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Speaker 2: and maybe one of those sevenths next year.

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Speaker 3: It's like a fourth.

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Speaker 2: For one twenty nine. We don't need one sixty seven necessarily,

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Speaker 2: and let's see if they'll give us. I'll put a

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Speaker 2: fourth next year.

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Speaker 3: Mass I said they could be bad too, So what's

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Speaker 2: Uh So I got one nineteen, one ninety five, that

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Speaker 2: Washington seven next year for one twenty nine, and next

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Speaker 2: year's fourth for Minnesota more years. Yeah, that's fair. They

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Speaker 2: rejected that.

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Speaker 3: You you don't try it with the fifth. We could try

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Speaker 3: that otherwise, sell them to stick it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one ninety five and seventh and seven for they

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Speaker 2: got Cleveland's fifth next year and their own. We want

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Speaker 2: Cleveland's fifth or their.

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Speaker 3: Fifth there, Okay, but they approached us right there, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they approached us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I didn't even want one sixty seven. Only

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Speaker 2: one is the one twenty nine. Next year's fifth. That

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Speaker 2: should work. Oh, that one's been accepted. There we go,

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Speaker 2: all right, Now we're okay, we're back up here. Now.

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Speaker 2: Zinter is still there.

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Speaker 3: We just took it in here. But I love them

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Speaker 3: in this neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: That would be great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we want Michigan guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right with Michigan East.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Winter National title. It's better than taking all

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Speaker 3: Achron guys.

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Speaker 2: Rode receivers available, Cawing, Javon Baker, Luke McCaffrey, Taj Washington.

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Speaker 2: I like, I like all four of those guys to

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Speaker 2: different levels.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Baker is my favorite, but McCaffrey's attractive too.

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Speaker 3: All four of them are attractive.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Top players available, will Shipley, Rodrick, Estime, mkaya Wingo,

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Speaker 2: Dylan Lobby Jackson. Hmmm, I can't believe he's still there.

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Speaker 2: R Davis, Jerry and Jones, Jared Wiley.

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Speaker 3: He's a lot different than Saints truel.

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Speaker 2: Leyden Robinson, Javon Solomon, Jordan Jefferson, bo Limber is still there.

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Speaker 3: Okay. In a vacuum, would you rather double down on

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Speaker 2: Well, I've got two young corners sitting on my roster

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Speaker 2: that I'm thinking, here's my thinking on this Russian trice. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Russian trice that they have on the rosters that basically

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Speaker 2: interesting that the Dante Jackson trade, he only has one

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Speaker 2: pretty confident that one of those two guys could be

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Speaker 2: his success, could be his successor one of the or

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Speaker 2: maybe both of them hit.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe leads me towards leistraft one other one's receivers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think that's what I was

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Speaker 3: Jackson's available too. Yeah, I mean six three corners are

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Speaker 3: I don't mind having an extra one.

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Speaker 2: So Cowing and these guys are they have them all

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Speaker 2: rated pretty closely together here. Cowing Baker McCaffrey.

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Speaker 3: Baker is my favorite. He was a four star from Bama.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was quite good this year. He's not

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Speaker 3: real value at this point. I think he's more like

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Speaker 3: a mid early third rounder. They like the route runners

442
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 3: they do. Hmm, what receiver did we take we took?

443
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 3: Wilson also kind of does everything so not like anyone

444
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 3: who be having redundant for you know right. I mean

445
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind a six to three guy, but and

446
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 3: I guess that is kind of Baker. I mean he's

447
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 3: over six.

448
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 2: Foot well yeah, McCaffrey as well, he's six one two

449
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: oh two. Cowing obviously is tinys Baker's kind of he's

450
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 2: five nine one seventy four.

451
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Speaker 3: I'd be against the little guys, although.

452
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 2: As a return guy he gives you a little something

453
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 2: there too.

454
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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a need might be. I mean,

455
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 3: Alan Austin will be.

456
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Speaker 2: Bad if you have Austin doesn't make your roster because

457
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 2: you've outdrafted him, you know, McCaffrey. Six.

458
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 3: Part of me wonders if Austin is gonna get shipped

459
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Speaker 3: for a six round pick or something.

460
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Speaker 2: It could happen.

461
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 3: If you have a favorite receiver do it my favorites Baker.

462
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Speaker 2: I just knowing I like Baker as well, knowing how

463
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Speaker 2: they like to have the uh, the kind of the

464
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 2: generational guys. I could see McCaffrey.

465
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Speaker 3: There, no absolutely, I mean, pull back the cart. And

466
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Speaker 3: we took him today on a mind we did with Mike,

467
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 3: and he talked us into it a little, but it

468
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Speaker 3: wasn't hard to talk to us in no.

469
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Speaker 2: You know, And I think he could again. I think

470
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Speaker 2: it brings you a little bit of maybe some trickeration

471
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Speaker 2: things that you could do with him as the quarterback.

472
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think you could hand him the

473
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Speaker 3: football at time of time too. I know he's I'm

474
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Speaker 3: not just saying this because he's you know, white dude,

475
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 3: you can only play the slot, but I think he's

476
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: mostly a slot, yeah at this point at least, and

477
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Speaker 3: Wilson to play outside.

478
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 2: But he has the size right that eventually he could.

479
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 2: I mean he's six one, two hundred pounds.

480
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think he could develop as an

481
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 3: outside guy. I'm cool with it. I mean, to be honest,

482
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 3: I had the same dispute in my brain a couple

483
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Speaker 3: hours ago.

484
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 2: It was more explosive than Baker as well. I think

485
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: his RAS score on here is way better, is it? Yeah?

486
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 2: Way better?

487
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 3: Really? I mean he did test extremely well. Yeah, I'm

488
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 3: cool with it.

489
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Speaker 2: All Right, we got our two, so now do we

490
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Speaker 2: We got one pick left. We could take a linebacker,

491
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Speaker 2: developmental linebacker, safety, We could take a safety. We could

492
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Speaker 2: take a center prospect. If there's still one there that

493
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Speaker 2: jumps out of us.

494
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: I really think McCormick's the center.

495
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 2: I think so too.

496
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Speaker 3: That's fine. I mean we can take a guard. We

497
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Speaker 3: could just take the best interior linement. We could take

498
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Speaker 3: another tackle. I mean, so the guy's available.

499
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Speaker 2: Jeem Bell, Keith Randolph, he's interesting. He's big enough to

500
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: ride to ride. He's six three two ninety six as

501
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: a defensive tackle. Kenny Logan, the safety out of Kansas,

502
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: Gabe Hall interesting.

503
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 3: If we hadn't taken Jenkins, I'd be all overhaul.

504
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: Jarvis Brownlee.

505
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, at this point, I mean.

506
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Speaker 2: Another cornerback wouldn't hurt.

507
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 3: I like that.

508
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 2: Then we doubled down at cornerback. Then both uh. Tommy

509
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 2: Eikenberg is there, he's fine. Xavier Thomas, the edge rusher

510
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: at a Clemson.

511
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Speaker 3: He's really growing on me.

512
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 2: Josh Procter's there.

513
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 3: Thomas is a little older, but he's sturdy and tough.

514
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Christian Jones is still there.

515
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Speaker 3: Really, I like all three of those names.

516
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 2: And Tracy the running back at a Purdue's.

517
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 3: Infatuated with him too. It's done the way it does

518
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: for you.

519
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 2: Your one, all right, Blake Watson.

520
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 3: I forgets that Brownlee I think Brownlee.

521
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: Tip Raymond is there. They I don't think you're in

522
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 2: the tight end market.

523
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Speaker 3: Room for him. Who were the three? Liked Brownlee? I

524
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 3: liked the Texas tackle, and who are we just talking about?

525
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 3: Oh the edge guy Thomas Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a tough one. That is a tough one.

527
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: Gay Ball still there.

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00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. I just think that room got.

529
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Speaker 2: The big guy that can run. I don't mind that though.

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Speaker 3: I mean louder milking Lee hour unnoticed. Right, you have

531
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Speaker 3: a favorite out of those.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I might I might take Brownlee in

533
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Speaker 2: this situation.

534
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Speaker 3: I was about to say Browne is starting to.

535
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Speaker 2: Because I don't know that I have one slot m h.

536
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: But he's a rookie. Yeah, I mean I'd like to

537
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Speaker 2: double down there as well. It's kind of like the

538
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Speaker 2: receiver conversation. I'm gonna double down at receiver and double

539
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Speaker 2: down at cornerback. I want to make sure I have

540
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Speaker 2: that position different if.

541
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Speaker 3: First on the Gene or Adie Mitchell or you know whatever,

542
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Speaker 3: and just be like, that's why we used use two

543
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Speaker 3: mid or the late round picks to try to fill

544
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Speaker 3: one need. I like that strategy a lot. It's like

545
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Speaker 3: the packers taking two tight ends. Yeah, you know, like

546
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: maybe they're both good.

547
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: Then you've got a strength.

548
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fine with it all.

549
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 2: Right, Jarvis Brownlee, it is cruising through the rest of

550
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Speaker 2: this draft.

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Speaker 3: We're done, right.

552
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. So we ended up with JC Latham at twenty. Yes,

553
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: we traded down at fifty one, down the sixty six.

554
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Speaker 2: We got Chris Jenkins, Yeah, okay. Then we got Roman

555
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Speaker 2: Wilson at eighty four.

556
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Speaker 3: So we kept our fingers crossed there for a while.

557
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Speaker 2: With the pick we acquired for that's the other pick

558
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Speaker 2: we acquired for fifty one. We got sixty six and

559
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Speaker 2: ninety we got Mike Sanis still okay, nice, and we

560
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Speaker 2: got the ninety eight Mason McCormick, he's our center.

561
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke McCaffrey at one twenty nine because we traded

563
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Speaker 2: down in Jarvis Brownlee at one seventy eight and we

564
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Speaker 2: got Minnesota's fifth round draft pick next year.

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Speaker 3: I would take that.

566
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Speaker 2: I really like those first three, actually, the first four picks.

567
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: I mean Latham fall in our lap is a lead

568
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 3: off home run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, those first four, I mean Latham, Christ Jankins,

570
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: Roman Wilson, Mike Santistro, Yeah, they're all going to play

571
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: for you.

572
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 3: I mean, Wilson, we were really considering it. The Jenkins pick.

573
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, consider those four are all going to play. Yeah, immediately.

574
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: They're coming from coming from the best programs in the

575
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 3: country too. Four picks. We're all big time guys. Latham

576
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: to me is my eighth best player in this draft.

577
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 3: If I'm the Steelers or something like that, high on

578
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 3: the list, yeah, I would take that right now.

579
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 2: I would we get We doubled down at receiver, we

580
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 2: doubled down at cornerback.

581
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 3: Now. People might not want to hear this, but I

582
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 3: might call Mason Cole after the draft too and be like, hey,

583
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 3: you want to sign a league minimum one year deal

584
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: and see while this kid learned center, you know, or

585
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: you know, but you're gonna do that anyways, You're calling

586
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 3: Golden anyway, you know, probably like that too.

587
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 2: You may still call Connor Williams.

588
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: That would work at spot here, McCormick, you're going to

589
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: be a guard there, you know, or we'll see, we'll

590
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 3: figure it out.

591
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 2: We'll figure you were just adding bodies.

592
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: I would still call him. I still called Williams, Yeah, absolutely.

593
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: Because you really, if you look at it, you lost chokes,

594
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: Cole's gone. Yeah, did they lose any other They're down

595
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: two bodies on the offensive line, so he added to

596
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: you're adding two bodies here on the offensive line and

597
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 2: one more for good measure. And you know again you're

598
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 2: you're looking at the competition there. I think you've you've

599
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: increased it. And McCormick, he played, he has a tackle

600
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: background too.

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00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 3: I know his testing was phenomenal.

602
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: Like he might be. He might just end up being

603
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: your swing guy across the border.

604
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: Sixth guy. Yeah, period, you know, for the next four years.

605
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: Which for a you know, a late third round pick.

606
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, absolutely, he might be your starting center and

607
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: might maybe he doesn't make that adjustment, who knows, but

608
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: he'll be valuable. He'll be valuable.

609
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

610
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: I don't think we've ever drafted him, but I've been

611
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: doing more and more on him. I like him a lot. Yeah,

612
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: So I would take that, and I would call a

613
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: veteran center, you know. Yeah, you know, I've been probably

614
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: talking to them anyway, and.

615
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: Right now they have about eleven million dollars in cap space.

616
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: They can create some more with some restructures, So I

617
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: mean they can certainly go get Connor Williams. It's a

618
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: matter right now of what's hit, what his health is.

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Speaker 3: The other thing about Connor Williams is he was just

620
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: as good at guard as he was center too. Yeah,

621
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Speaker 3: so if he didn't play all year and McCormick is

622
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 3: a defensive or offensive rookie of the year at center,

623
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Speaker 3: it's never happened before in the history of the world.

624
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: Connor Williams moves to guard, he.

625
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: Plays guard right in Daniels leaves and you'd save caps base.

626
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: The question, the question that Williams for Williams is going

627
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: to be does he have to SI he? Is he

628
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: going to sign end up signing a one year proven

629
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: deal somewhere? Does he want a multi year deal?

630
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Speaker 3: Does he want I would think you want to sign

631
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Speaker 3: him to a two year deal. If I'm signing a

632
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: one year deal and I don't get half the year.

633
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: Right, you wasted it?

634
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean he's just getting paid every Monday

635
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: to sit there with shorts and T shirt. Better be

636
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 3: a pretty low number. But a two year deal or

637
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: an option or something, right, I think is intriguing.

638
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Well that was our late anyway with you,

639
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: that's our latest mark on Pro Football Network.

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Speaker 3: I take it. I would tell what all these would

641
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: I say? I'll trade it today that one I traded

642
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: L twenty Yeah, good started, good start. Michigan duds, Yeah,

643
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: sign me up.

644
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys who are used to winning.

645
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely tough dudes too off that defense.

646
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like whatever, you got to start thinking of them.

647
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Speaker 2: And I wonder if we'll talk about this morning next seur.

648
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Speaker 2: But anyway, so let's get to a break. He is

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive

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Speaker 2: here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more

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Speaker 2: right after.

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and Matt what I wanted to start talking about here

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Speaker 2: in this segment. This is just stick with me on

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Speaker 2: this one. Okay, So over the previous I don't know

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Speaker 2: a decade, you maybe even longer than that. You've looked

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Speaker 2: at the Alabama and then Georgia programs. Sure as the

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Speaker 2: programs that hey, you creama crop, take guys from.

662
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Speaker 3: There, stars and yeah, people transferring out that are great

663
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: players that just can't get on the field, right.

664
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: Right, Jermaine Burton being one of those.

665
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say Ohio State would probably be third.

666
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: They're on that list as well.

667
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

668
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: But Michigan, now the last couple of years has kind

669
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: of forced their way into that conversation. And I wonder

670
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: with Saban leaving Alabama and now you've seen Harball leave Michigan,

671
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: if that starts, if that landscape starts to change the

672
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: little we saw it, like as soon as as soon

673
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: as Saban left or there were a bunch of guys

674
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: that jumped ship at Obama.

675
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: In a huge way.

676
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: Now, I will say this, Michigan and kept, for the

677
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: most part, kept its guys because they hired from within,

678
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: from within Yeah yeah, yeah.

679
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 3: They did lose a lot of their staff though. Yeah,

680
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: I mean like their defensive coordinator is not a decordinator

681
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: in LA. First of all, back to our last segment,

682
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: I would have no hesitation. I'd be very anxious to

683
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: draft Michigan guys. Now, you know the guys that were

684
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 3: harbaught through and through. You know they're gonna work, you know,

685
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: they're gonna deal with competition. They won a lot of games,

686
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: and you know, we've given like Rashaun Garry and I

687
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: think Jenkins to some.

688
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: Of the guys there that just didn't produce.

689
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: Didn't produce, but numbers wise, I should say, in a

690
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: Patriot way, did their job, and we're team players and

691
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: sacrifice some numbers to do it, you know what I mean.

692
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 3: I think that's a horrbaught trade. All their offensive linemen

693
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: are supposedly really, really well coached. It's been one of

694
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: the best O lines for four or five years, so

695
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: I think there's something to be taken away from that.

696
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: I bring this up because for Steeler fans when they

697
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: see a draft like that, we took three guys from Michigan,

698
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: first thought is Devin Bush.

699
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 3: I know everyone thinks that immediately, and which isn't fair.

700
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of hits out of there, too,

701
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I see what you're saying, because

702
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: that does scare people immediately. You traded up for that

703
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 3: guy from Michigan. He didn't work out, so no one

704
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: else ever can. And I hate that way of thinking,

705
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 3: you know. That being said, and I'm not avoiding your question.

706
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: I just don't know college football as well as I

707
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: used to. I don't watch it on Saturdays, Like, you know,

708
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: who's that next program? If if Bama and Michigan happened

709
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: to take a small step backwards, I mean someone's taking

710
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: a step up, right. Is Clemson getting back to that that?

711
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: I think they're good. I think they're working their way back,

712
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: are they? They had a couple of down years, but

713
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: I think they're still going to be a major player.

714
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I think people are aware of this. Michigan set

715
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: the combine record for most attendees this year. Does that

716
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: mean it's going down from this point on? Or is

717
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: that just the norm?

718
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: They can go any higher?

719
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: They won the national title and they're losing theirquarterback.

720
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: And you know, but the Oregons, the Washington some of

721
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: those schools, they force their way into that conversation.

722
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: That's a great conversation, Notre Dame or I just don't

723
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: know enough about the college game on Saturdays as a

724
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: fan to know those programs, But I think it's a

725
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 3: good conversation, you know, like who could be I mean,

726
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: Georgia was always kind of the you know, behind Bama

727
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: until they weren't right, Yeah, until they He's the one

728
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: that's trying to knock off Georgia down, maybe Bama gets

729
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: back to that spot.

730
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: At LSU is knocking on that door.

731
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: They just lost their quarterback too though, you know, but.

732
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: In two stud receivers and.

733
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: I guess they're ow lines loaded though from what I

734
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: understand just from doing Jayde and Daniel's homework. But no,

735
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot to be said for that.

736
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: And you know, I think the other thing that you

737
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: look at when in our particular draft here is our

738
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: first four picture. All guys who I mean, they're all

739
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: Bama and Michigan guys. I mean played in like big

740
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: game game. Yeah.

741
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 3: I not many teams, not many players at to play

742
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: in a Callers playoff game, and they all were part

743
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 3: of that, you know, regularly expected to do it. Yeah,

744
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: time to be said to that steels the draft a

745
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 3: lot of Georgia guys, I mean Georgia guys.

746
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: It tends to go like there's always like I can

747
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 2: remember my first my first year back earlier, my first

748
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: couple of years with the Steelers or covering the Steelers Colorado,

749
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: it was like they had a bunch of guys from Colorado,

750
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: Cordell and Chad Brown, and I mean they were just

751
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: Charles Johnson. Then it became, uh.

752
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 3: They've always had a lot of Ohio State guys, you.

753
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: Know, the higher state was. It was a nice run there.

754
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: The one year they drafted three guys out of Michigan State. Yeah,

755
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: that was That was a funny story about that. So

756
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: at that point where the media we all stayed in

757
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: the same dorm as the players at sat Fencing College.

758
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: Everybody was in the same dorm. So you pull up

759
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: in front of the dorm and unload your stuff and

760
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 2: then move your you know, take it in and move

761
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: your car. So I'm standing out in front of there,

762
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: and if some of the other media, Mike Pursuda comes

763
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: rolling in and his I think it was like a

764
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: nineteen and I don't know, eighty eight Toyota Silica.

765
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 3: And sure at Michigan State sickers all over it.

766
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: He's got a Michigan State shirt on. They had drafted

767
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: three guys from Michigan State that year, Jimmy Miller and

768
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: uh there was a linebacker and a running a fullback

769
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: as well. And one of the photographers runs up to

770
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 2: start shooting photos of Mike. At this point is probably

771
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: still lit'sten. I was, this is like my second year,

772
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: maybe third year. So I'm in my I'm in my

773
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 2: mid twenties. Mike's Mike's a few years older and he's

774
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 2: probably like twenty nine.

775
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: He could no offense, Mike, but he could pass as

776
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,959
Speaker 3: an athlete then a little bit of than today, coming

777
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: off hip surgery.

778
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: The guys out there shooting all these photos of it,

779
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: and I'm we all just like kind of let it happen,

780
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: and then somebody call, yeah, that's that's not he's like,

781
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: I thought that was the quarterback. They thought he was

782
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: Jim Miller.

783
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: I mean, anybody pops out in college gear from somewhere

784
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: you drafted.

785
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: It, pulls up in front of the door at that point.

786
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I've only been tight with Mike for like

787
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: the last ten years or so, so I'm really using

788
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: my imagination here. Say that's awesome.

789
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: But that stuff he's like. I can remember walking across

790
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 2: campus back in the day again when I was still

791
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: in my early and mid twenties, and you'd have little

792
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 2: kids run up and asking for autographs. I'm like, I'm

793
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: not a player. You don't want my a.

794
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: But back to the school thing, there's a lot of

795
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: credence in that, Like Dick le Bow went to Ohio State.

796
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 3: I mean like he has. I mean, all these guys

797
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: have connections. But you know, Mark Orshak was a great

798
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: Steeler scout for many many years. You don't think he

799
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: had awesome connections in almost every building he went to,

800
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: you know, and people telling you stuff that you trust.

801
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 3: You know, So I'm going to take that guy out

802
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 3: of there. And you know, I know how that head

803
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: coach coaches. I mean, especially if there's not a lot

804
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 3: of turnover in the college ranks. You know, I know

805
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 3: what I'm getting. I know what that kind of program

806
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: is that can bring you back to Michigan. I think

807
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: you know exactly what you're getting. It doesn't mean they're

808
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: all going to hit and be.

809
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: Superstar, no, no, but I they're pretty good. Yeah, yeah,

810
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: they're pretty good. I just you know, wonder about that

811
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: with with you see that from time to time with

812
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: these runs from certain schools that you know, you end

813
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: up with a bunch of guys.

814
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: Utah seems to pump out defensive players, and you know,

815
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 3: I mean there's there's reasons for this stuff.

816
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, just you know, Likes.

817
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 3: And Temple have some toughness to them, and you know.

818
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, with a school like Rutgers now

819
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: with a guy a coach who was who's coached in

820
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: a long time in college football, but also coached in

821
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: the NFL for a while, he knows a lot of

822
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: guys now his network has gotten bigger, massive, and so

823
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 2: you maybe know a little bit more about those guys.

824
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 2: A guy like a Max Melton who was in today.

825
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Max Meulton'd be a great steiler.

826
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

827
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: So it's interesting, No, it is, and there's a lot

828
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: to it. I mean there's a lot of relationships and

829
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 3: scouting and going in the buildings and experience. I mean

830
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 3: that stuff goes a long way, and people don't think

831
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: about it enough.

832
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 2: Changing gears. Here, Kevin Patrick takes a look at projection

833
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: performances of quarterbacks who changed teams. Well, we've seen some

834
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: of that.

835
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, a little bit.

836
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: So let's take a look here and see what this

837
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 2: is on NFL dot Com. Uh starters he has. Kirk

838
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 2: Cousins obviously is a clearcut starter. Thinks he will be

839
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: better this year than he was last year in Minnesota.

840
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: Okay, but he's a year older and he's coming.

841
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: Off of major injury. I don't see how he can

842
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: be better than what he was. He was really good

843
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 2: before he got hurt. Eight games he threw for twenty

844
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: three hundred yards, so almost three hundred yards passing per game.

845
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: He had eighteen touchdown passes in five interceptions.

846
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 3: He was great. Yeah, and his situations, every bit is good.

847
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: But it's still a new coach. It's still a new

848
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: you know, situation coming off a massive injury. I don't

849
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: know what this article is gonna tell us, but I

850
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: do hope it's everyone's not gonna get better next year, right,

851
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Everyone just thinks that, oh,

852
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson's gonna be a thousand times better.

853
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: He might be, you know, he'll be better than what

854
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 2: the Steelers had. I don't know that he'll be better

855
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 2: than what he wants, but.

856
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: I love people like, oh, well, they'll be a lot

857
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 3: healthier this year, team Max. Yeah, you sure, no team's

858
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: gonna get riddled by injuries again. You know that happens

859
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 3: every year, or people get worse.

860
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: So Cousins is the only one who's listed as a

861
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 2: clear cut starter, which I would disagree the list. Russell

862
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 2: Wilson is a training camp battle.

863
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I think it's closer to the clear cut start.

864
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 2: I think he is too. I don't think it's going

865
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: to be quite the battle that maybe some people think

866
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: it is. He says his twenty twenty four numbers will

867
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 2: be worse.

868
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: Now.

869
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: Last year he has.

870
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: Numbers were pretty good if we're just talking numbers.

871
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: Fifteen games, sixty six percent, completion percentage, three thousands, so

872
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: we averaged two hundred yards passing per game. Yeah, that's

873
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: not awesome.

874
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: It's not awesome, right.

875
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: But twenty six touchdown passes, eight interceptions, three hundred and

876
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: forty one rushing yards, and three rushing touchdowns.

877
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 3: The TD to interception ratio stands out to me like,

878
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 3: I think we would take.

879
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: That, oh ourbeat I And it's worse clearly if it was,

880
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: if it was twenty two to eight, that you.

881
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: Would take it.

882
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

883
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 3: The completion percentage is a little inflated, but it's awfully good.

884
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: I mean, he threw a lot of passes behind the

885
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage last year in that offense. Yeah, you

886
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: would hope there's not as many of those. So he

887
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: bet his completion percentage goes down a little. Yeah, it

888
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: difficulty to throw. I think it's gonna go.

889
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 2: Up He also lists Justin Fields there. Yeah, I don't

890
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: think this is the battle that people think it's going

891
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: to be.

892
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 3: But he don't think most people think it's a battle.

893
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: I can't wait to watch.

894
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: Steelers have been playing paying lip service to that, but

895
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to be the case. I

896
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 2: think there's there's a clear when Mike Tomlin says Russell

897
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: Wilson is starting in pole position, Yeah, consider this pole position,

898
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: and Justin Fields is starting from midway through to pack.

899
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of stuff swift through to get

900
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: to the to the front, the placeholders. Sam Darnold, how

901
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 2: long it even last? Yeah, Yeah, he thinks his numbers

902
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: will be better. Well, he barely did anything last year. Gayeah,

903
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett, he played three games last year.

904
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: He obviously going to be better again. Who knows how

905
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: long these guys keep their jobs.

906
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, Gardner Minshew, however, he thinks will be worse

907
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: than what he was last year.

908
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: I tend to agree, but I think.

909
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: He has better receivers than he had in Indianapolis.

910
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Adams is better than Pittman. I think

911
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 3: the line was better in Indy. They ran at Jakobe

912
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: Meyer as well, Like, he's a good player. I just

913
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: think like if you took the two year, if you

914
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 3: took the.

915
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: Two receivers from the Raiders and put them on the

916
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Like, yeah, I think he posts great numbers.

917
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 3: I'm thinking more of the O line. I'll definitely take

918
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 3: the Colts O line.

919
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: And so here here were his numbers though seventeen games. Yeah,

920
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 2: sixty two completion percentage, thirty three hundred passing yards, fifteen

921
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: touchdown passes, nine interceptions. You told me he can't do

922
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: better than that.

923
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: I thought they. I tho those numbers were better than that.

924
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: I think I think a lot lot of people kind

925
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: of had that idea, and I would have bet.

926
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: I bet. I would have bet three minutes ago that

927
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 3: his touchdown to interception ratio is more like twenty to eight.

928
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he'll be better. He'll better not because

929
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 2: they're gonna behind more often, he's gonna have to.

930
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: Throw the football might go up.

931
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he also lost a fumble or he had

932
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 2: eight fumbles. Yeah, yeah, he is what he is. I mean,

933
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: he's just kind of a dude.

934
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 3: Yeah right.

935
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, Marcus Mariota.

936
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: With Washington, I've lost all faith in that guy, he thinks.

937
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: His numbers are going to be better now. He only

938
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 2: played in three games last year. I don't think he's

939
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: any good.

940
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 3: I don't think he's I think he's one of the

941
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 3: least accurate quarterbacks in the league now, and he wasn't

942
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: that bad before, but he can't complete passes anymore.

943
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: Backups in potentially key roles. Leading that one is Kenny Pickett. Well,

944
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: obviously his numbers are going to be worse because he

945
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: played be less.

946
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean, yes, some of these guys

947
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 3: will see the field, but I don't know how you'd

948
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: possibly project numbers for yeah Picket or.

949
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: These guys should all be worse because they're starting all

950
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: of his backups Sack Jones, right, Joe Flacco same thing, worse? Yeah,

951
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: Desmond Ritter worse, No kidding, he played fifteen games last year,

952
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: but I hope his numbers were worse.

953
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 3: I mean, no one thought Flacco was going to play

954
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 3: any games last year at this.

955
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: Time, right, he wasn't even on a team last year.

956
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: Some are one of these guys is going to be better.

957
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: Tyrod Taylor worse. Actually, I would bet none of them

958
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: were good, though I'm not Tyrod. Who am I thinking here,

959
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo worse, Sam Howe worse, Drew Lock Drew Locks

960
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: one and and that's where there is. He has his

961
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 2: is better because he only appeared in four games last

962
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: year and through five hundred and forty three yards. He's

963
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 2: going to start the season as their starter. We don't

964
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: think Jones is ready for I don't think Jones is

965
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: going to be ready until maybe a month end of

966
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 2: the season.

967
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: They've really soured on Jones. I'm not sure Jones even

968
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: gets the draw back.

969
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, if Locke plays well well enough, well enough.

970
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 3: Keeps them you know, one in three, yeah, two and

971
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 3: two maybe, I mean they gave him money for a reason, right,

972
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 3: Max Jones could draft someone too.

973
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Max Jones worse, Mitch Trubisky worse, Mason Rudolph better.

974
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: I think he's better.

975
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: I think he's another one that could in the Sandy Williams.

976
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, like in these super flex leagues I'm in like

977
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get Rudolf for nothing, you know, like

978
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: it doesn't you don't have to squint real hard to

979
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 3: see him get in the game and be okay.

980
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, with those receivers, right, right, right, right.

981
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And part of this is because I'm just

982
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: questioning Levis and.

983
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he takes a lot of hits. It's another one.

984
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston better.

985
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 3: I'm still a believer in Winston. Well.

986
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: And the other thing about it is, do you trust

987
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson to stay healthy?

988
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 3: No? I mean I don't know that you could ever bench.

989
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: Him, right, you know that give him what you're paying him, right.

990
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 3: But there's a chance that everyone in the building knows

991
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: Jamis is better than DeShawn.

992
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 2: There's a reason they've got four veteran quarterbacks on their rush.

993
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: Something weird is going on. And Winston's another one. Like

994
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: in these super flex leagues. I love the stash him

995
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: because we haven't heard the last of them.

996
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs worse. Yeah, Tyler Huntley worse. He may not

997
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: even make the team. Yeah, he's only getting one point

998
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: three That tells you all you need to know. He's

999
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 2: got a one point three million dollar salary this year.

1000
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 3: He might not even make the team.

1001
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: He might not make the team. Brett Ripion worse Bears,

1002
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: Nathan Peterman.

1003
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: I believe he's still in the league.

1004
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are your quarterbacks that have changed in.

1005
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: That bottom group. You should say worse on all of them, Yeah,

1006
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 3: because of course, but some of them are going to play. Yeah,

1007
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: I six with some dudes start again this year. Almost

1008
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 3: every name you mentioned is going to see the field.

1009
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is scary, It absolutely is. Let's get through

1010
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,439
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1011
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,800
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1012
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:49,400
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1013
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,759
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1014
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1022
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Speaker 2: Matt thirty third Team as their latest mock draft. Here

1023
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: this one done by Deontay Lee and let's take a

1024
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: look here work. Yeah, of course he has Caleb Williams

1025
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 2: to the Bears at one trade alert at number two,

1026
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: the Vikings coming up, giving up they get They receive

1027
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: number two and number forty.

1028
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: Wow a lot.

1029
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 2: They give up eleven twenty three, a twenty twenty five

1030
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 2: first round draft pick, any twenty twenty five fourth round

1031
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 2: draft pick.

1032
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 3: Shocked that they're getting thirty two though forty.

1033
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: Or forty yeah, that's I don't know how that works out.

1034
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 2: But they come up and get Drake May.

1035
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I did. People seem to think the

1036
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 3: Vikings are highest on May like it's such lying season.

1037
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 3: I don't know why I believe with that kind of stuff.

1038
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: And I don't even know if I believe McCarthy's in

1039
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 3: the mix of two. Everyone seems to think so when

1040
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 3: people want to know. But this time was two years ago.

1041
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 3: People were talking about Willis might go second to the

1042
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: Lions or what so if Levis is a top ten pick.

1043
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. So if you do like May, no,

1044
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: if you're Washington and you like McCarthy better, you might

1045
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: make too much go down and then come back up

1046
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: with what you got to.

1047
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: Talk to the Cardinals or Chargers, right right right? No,

1048
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 3: I think that could be in the cards.

1049
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: Except JJ McCarthy then goes to New England at three

1050
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: in this one.

1051
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 3: Okay, so then Daniel's out there, Jade and Daniels is

1052
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 3: still out there. Yeah, okay. He then has maybe was

1053
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 3: Washington's guy to begin with.

1054
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 2: It might be, yeah, I mean Arizona then takes Marvin

1055
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 2: Harrison and we have a trade at number five. The

1056
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: Bears come up, they trade, They trade number five and

1057
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: number thirty seven, or the Bears received five and thirty seven.

1058
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 2: They give up number nine, a twenty twenty five first

1059
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 2: round draft pick, and two twenty twenty five second round

1060
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: draft picks to the Chargers.

1061
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 3: Wow, I assume that up and they don't really need

1062
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 3: a receiver.

1063
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a come up and get room and Dunesia.

1064
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 2: I don't agree with that.

1065
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: Agree with the moving that much.

1066
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: The Giants and take Molik Neighbors.

1067
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 3: They're happy with all the movement. They get a good guy. Yeah.

1068
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 2: Titans take Joe Alta, The Falcons take Dallas Turner, So.

1069
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 3: Jaydon Daniels still out.

1070
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: Jade Daniels is still there. The Chargers take J. C.

1071
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 2: Latham at nine.

1072
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 3: I think that's very possible.

1073
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: The Jets take Brock Bowers at ten, and at eleven

1074
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 2: the Commanders take Jad and Daniels. This makes me wonder

1075
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: if he just came into this saying I want to

1076
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: do this so that Washington.

1077
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean like at this point, would

1078
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 3: Denver the Raiders.

1079
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: Somebody's jumping up there to go get Jade and Daniels.

1080
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 3: And we had the Giants pass on them, right, yeah, yeah,

1081
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 3: that might have just been convenient as a mock drafter.

1082
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. At twelve, the Broncos take Quinya Mitchell.

1083
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 3: Okay, I found with that. That's second defensive player of

1084
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:32,479
Speaker 3: the board. Right.

1085
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: At thirteen, the Raiders take for Sean FASHIONU okay, fine.

1086
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: Fourteen the Saints take Jared Verse.

1087
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 3: I think that'll be a line, but the line's pretty

1088
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 3: bad shaped too.

1089
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 2: At fifteen, Nate Wiggins to the Colts.

1090
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 3: Hey, if it's a type long and you know fast?

1091
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

1092
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: Seattle at sixteen then takes Cooper Dejen.

1093
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: Wow, it's a different type of corner than what they

1094
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 3: have too. Yeah, I mean he would be be this conversation.

1095
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: I guess, like an hour ago he would. It's a

1096
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 3: raven type like peace Yeah, yeah, bigger version of Humphreys

1097
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: in a way.

1098
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 2: At seventeen, Jacksonville takes Terry and Arnold.

1099
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 3: They have a lot of needs too. I mean everyone

1100
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: talks about offense, but their second corner situation is far

1101
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: from ideal.

1102
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: At eighteen, the Bengals take a Marius Mims.

1103
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 3: I guess you could set him there for a year.

1104
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 3: I mean, they do like the massive tackles, even if

1105
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 3: he didn't play as a rookie. I guess I think

1106
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: they'd go for more immediate help at receivers.

1107
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: I think so too. Yeah. At nineteen, the Rams take

1108
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: layout too late to makes sense well, and that leaves

1109
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: for the Steelers at twenty. This is given how this

1110
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: board is gone, this is exactly what I would take

1111
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: Talasi Fluaga. That's who he has the Steelers taking there.

1112
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: Okay, with all that stuff that happened in the first nineteen,

1113
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 3: If that means Fuaga's there at twenty, so I'm.

1114
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: Sign me up. At twenty one, Miami takes Troy Fatanu.

1115
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 3: Perfect pick for them, Yeah, Somewhere.

1116
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: Twenty two the Eagles Tate kool Aid McKinstry.

1117
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm fine with that.

1118
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 2: Twenty three the Commanders, who get this as their second.

1119
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 3: Just their first.

1120
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: Oh, they got Daniel Yeah, Chop Robinson.

1121
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: They need edge guys for sure. Yeah, I think it's

1122
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 3: a little early for Chopp.

1123
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: At twenty four, the Cowboys take Graham Barton.

1124
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 3: That'd be a great pick for them.

1125
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: At twenty five, the Packers take Jordan Morgan.

1126
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 3: Okay, seems early, but they do like movement based linemen.

1127
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: Twenty six, the Buccaneers take Jackson Powers Johnson.

1128
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean their center situation is not great play guard.

1129
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: At twenty seven, Arizona takes Kamari Lassiter.

1130
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 3: That seems early, but corners are going pretty quick.

1131
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,959
Speaker 2: Corners, there's been a run on corners usual.

1132
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Who did they get with their first Marvin Harrison Junior?

1133
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay cover yeah yeah, line them up the

1134
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: Bills in At twenty eight, take Brian Thomas.

1135
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 3: They'd be thrilled. That's almost too good to be true, too. Yeah,

1136
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 3: I think somebody would grab him before that.

1137
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: At twenty nine, Johnny Newton goes to the Lions.

1138
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 3: I'd be very happy with that if I were the Lion.

1139
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: At thirty, the Ravens take Tyler Geiton.

1140
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: Could be could be that there's four or five positions

1141
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 3: they could go with that pick.

1142
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: At thirty one. San Francisco goes Kingsley Sua Mattia nice. Well,

1143
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: that's a lot of tackles, a lot of tackles, a

1144
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: lot of corners, a lot of corners that. Yeah, and

1145
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: then Kansas City at thirty two takes a Donnie Mitchell.

1146
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 3: I have mixed feelings about Mitchell, but I don't think

1147
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 3: he gets a thirty two. I mean, I think after

1148
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: those those first three receivers go early, and then I

1149
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: bet one of them's gone by twenty of Thomas or Mitchell,

1150
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 3: and then the Bills start to get desperate.

1151
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. I mean it's a nice run on corner.

1152
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 2: They're kind of starting with Denver at twelve that that's.

1153
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 3: Not unrealistic, No, I mean it's I don't know, the

1154
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 3: lastitter could end up in the first round.

1155
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: Because I mean you saw you saw Mitchell go, you

1156
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: saw Wiggins go, you saw Dejene go a little earlier

1157
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: than you saw Terry and Arnold go. Four of those

1158
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: guys in the top seventeen, Yeah, which could.

1159
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 3: Happen, could happen, and then you end up with Flogga,

1160
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: yeah you know, or something similar. Yeah. Interesting. I mean,

1161
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 3: there's a lot of trading down and a lot of movement,

1162
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 3: of course, and some the Bears one didn't make sense

1163
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 3: to me to all that stuff, But.

1164
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: I could see somebody trading up at that point, yeah,

1165
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: to make that move.

1166
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 3: And I don't think Daniels falls to twelve now any

1167
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 3: which way. Somebody would give you the house to get

1168
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 3: the sins or the giants passing on them was a

1169
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 3: little unrealistic to me.

1170
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 2: Well, I mean the receiver's a big need to Yeah,

1171
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: so fun, something interesting. I'd sign me up. Yeah, I

1172
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 2: take for Wago right now.

1173
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you nineteen, do all that crazy stuff, and we'll

1174
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 3: sit here at twenty.

1175
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 2: And take that guy, just like we just got Latham

1176
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 2: at twenty in our life the mock draft there. I mean,

1177
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: either one of those guys, I'm good with it one.

1178
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 3: And I think Latham would be a great charger. I

1179
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 3: mean I think Harball would love that guy.

1180
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, just run behind him.

1181
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. But they better get some receivers too, Yeah.

1182
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 2: Absolutely. But uh well, Matt, that's that's kind of do

1183
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 2: it for today's show. Rolling along here, moving right along.

1184
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: We've got let's see two this week Monday and Monday

1185
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: or Wednesday and Friday. Monday, Wednesday, Friday next week. Then

1186
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 2: it's Draft week, and it's Draft week. It's we're right there.

1187
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 3: Okay, So Draft Week will we be Monday Wednesday Friday?

1188
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 2: Also we will be Monday Wednesday, Yeah.

1189
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 3: Won't be Friday, and then we do a Wednesday night

1190
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 3: show and then lots of coverage Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Absolutely,

1191
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 3: a lot of fun back to you and I just

1192
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 3: the recap things.

1193
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, then we'll have a rookie mini camp and move OTAs.

1194
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for picking up.

1195
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: Things start to pick up again here. We'll starting to

1196
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 2: do a little bit more drive work here. Nice, love

1197
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Speaker 2: it absolutely, but that's going to do it for today's show.

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Speaker 2: So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

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Speaker 2: on site keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lollie.

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Speaker 2: We thank you for listening to this edition of the

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