1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts. 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: Radio News. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 3: We begin with our top story, It's Share Pale Day one, 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 3: the Fed chap heading to Capitol Hill, where he's expected 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 3: to reiterate the Central Bank's call to wait and see 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: on rate cuts. Black Ross Kate Moore saying this where 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 3: prices continue to moderate, inflation is still running above target, 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 3: and we believe the Fed needs to feel a higher 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 3: degree of confidence before rushing to cut rates. We view 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: rate cuts will likely be appropriate in twenty four and 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: we believe that a June first cut is realistic. Kate 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: Moore joins us now for more. Kate, great to catch 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 3: up with you ahead of this testimony from Shairman Powell. 14 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: We've pushed out the time of the call, We've reduced 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 3: the magnitude, and stocks have done Okay. A thing for 16 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: us this morning is just how important, how relevant is 17 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: monetary policy to this equity market as we speak. 18 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 4: I think people are still fixated, of course, on inflation 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 4: and on kind of the messaging and tone from monetary 20 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 4: policy decision makers. That said, I look at the internals, John, 21 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 4: and what has been performing within the equity market. It 22 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 4: has been fundamentals that have been driving stock prices much 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: more than just expectations around inflation. 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: So when we initially got excited. 25 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 4: About inflation coming down a disinflationary trend and rate cuts 26 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four, there was a pop in some 27 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 4: really kind of lower quality stuff that was getting hit 28 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 4: hard on higher rates for longer. But what is performed 29 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 4: today and what is performing right now in this market 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: are companies that are putting up good numbers on earnings, 31 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: that have been raising guidance, and that have very strong fundamentals. 32 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about it to we're blue 33 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: in the face. 34 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 4: Inflation and FED policy and parsing all of the speeches 35 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 4: is going. 36 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: To be what we do for hours on end. 37 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 4: That said, we really have to focus on what companies 38 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 4: can perform in this economy in order to make money. 39 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: Okay, for years you and I were talking about price 40 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,919 Speaker 3: and power when inflation was high, they had this ability 41 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: to kick up prices and boost marchins. Have you impressed 42 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: by their ability to preserve margins given the bank drop currently? 43 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don I think you're asking this question because 44 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 4: you know, I have great faith and confidence in the 45 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 4: US corporate sector to continue to maintain margins even through 46 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 4: lots of last year, where prices were rising and where 47 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 4: there was a lot of strain, we saw companies continuously 48 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: focus on maintaining margins and think about strategies that would 49 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 4: allow them to expand their. 50 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: Margins in twenty twenty four. 51 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 4: I'm actually very optimistic, and I think this is the 52 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 4: consensus of a lot of analysts on the street that 53 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 4: margins will gradually expand over the course of this year 54 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: as prices come down and as companies continue to focus 55 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 4: have this laser focus on maintaining and expanding margins. 56 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: This is going to be critical for. 57 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 4: The fundamentals, and as I said, the fundamentals are going 58 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 4: to underpin equity risk and sentiment I think for the 59 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: balance of this year. 60 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: So your overweight risk assets strongly overweight risk assets piling 61 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: on shrugging off all the bubbletalk. Are bonds a good 62 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: diversifier or right now? Are they the toxic ones at 63 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: a time of concern about deficits and inflation being stickier 64 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: for a longer period of time. 65 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, we have a significant portion of our portfolio 66 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 4: and bonds, but we're not massively overweight when it comes 67 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 4: to say treasuries. You know, we're seeing a more opportunity 68 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 4: in the credit side. I think the fixingcum plays an 69 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 4: important part in a balanced like allocation portfolio. That said, 70 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 4: there are lots of parts of fixed incum that are 71 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 4: more attractive than others, and we've. 72 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: Used cash as a tool aggressively. Over the last you know, 73 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: twelve to eighteen months. 74 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 4: We're seeing more alternatives and currency opportunities as well. So 75 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 4: I think we need to think holistically about the acid 76 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: class opportunity set. Even though Lisa, you know this, I'm 77 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 4: very constructive on equities for the balance of the year. 78 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 4: We're going to get this periodic pullbacks, but I think 79 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 4: that is where you're going to deliver the bulk of 80 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: your returns for a multi assid portfolio. 81 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: Kay, I've been putting together a project where I'm trying 82 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: to collect all the worries and put them on a 83 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: list and then take them off as people basically shrug 84 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: them off. 85 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: Do you have any to put on the list? 86 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 4: Of course, I mean I barely last night thinking about 87 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: all of my worries. No, Lisa, for sure, there are 88 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 4: a couple things that really concern me. 89 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: You know. 90 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 4: One of the things I'm focused on, and we were 91 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: paying attention to this with target reporting yesterday was what 92 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: is the true health of the US consumer? Some of 93 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 4: the data gets amasked by the higher end or kind 94 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 4: of well, think about the upper two quintile of earners 95 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 4: and you know, does low end consumer continue to show 96 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 4: cracks and what does discretionary demand look like? 97 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: I worry a little bit about that. 98 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 4: I'm frankly worry a little bit about the election cycle 99 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 4: having an impact on overall spending. We've seen in previous 100 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 4: election cycles that companies pull back or hold back on 101 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 4: non essential capex as they're waiting for you know, trying 102 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 4: to figure out who the next administration is going to 103 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: be and what that policy will look like. So I 104 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: worry that that could have a dampening effect on overall economy. 105 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 4: And then I worry a decent amount around the impact 106 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 4: that geopolitical risk and geopolitical tensions could have on multinationals 107 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 4: in terms of their overall operations. Does any of this 108 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: like take my enthusiasm out of the SMP and NASDAC 109 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 4: not fully, but I think these are things that could 110 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: be risks for certain sectors as we look through the year. 111 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: Okay, it was going through year old coves at the 112 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: end of last year credit where it's too top favorite 113 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: markets US one Japan the other US up by six 114 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: point five percent, MIK two twenty five, twenty percent this year. 115 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 3: What was it that you liked about Japanese equities? What 116 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 3: is it that you still like about Japan. 117 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 4: We've seen a bunch of small green shoots, I would say, 118 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: across the Japanese equity space, and there was also a 119 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 4: large positioning and. 120 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: Technic technical component. 121 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 4: John, you know, the Japanese equities have been underloved for 122 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 4: some time. We continue to see you know, stronger growth 123 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 4: across Asia and with some of the trading partners that 124 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 4: we thought would bolster earnings across the Japanese corporate sector, 125 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 4: and we, like a lot of people, remain hopeful that 126 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 4: we will continue to see a change in BOJ policy 127 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: over the balance of this year, which will change sentiment 128 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 4: for the overall ASSAD class. 129 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: I will say US is our largest. 130 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 4: Overweight by a long stretch, and that's where we're taking 131 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 4: our concentrated equity risk. But I think Japan continues to 132 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 4: bear some food and will continue to have an overweight 133 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 4: there through coming quarters. 134 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 3: Some pretty decent fruit, that's for sure. Kate Moore of 135 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: black Rock. Congrats on a call, Big call Japan. Just 136 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: massive out performance year today so far,