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Speaker 2: Have you heard of the Rio Reset?

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck, it.

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Speaker 2: Does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil.

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Speaker 2: The formal name is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India,

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Speaker 2: China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.

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Speaker 3: Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens

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Speaker 3: when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's an understatement. Bricks is a group of emerging

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Speaker 3: Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.

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Speaker 3: I'm listening.

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Speaker 2: Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metal

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Speaker 2: specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's

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Speaker 1: Can he give us some inside intel?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, he's been there since day one. In fact, a

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Speaker 2: major theme at the summit is how Bricks Nations aim

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Speaker 2: to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.

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Speaker 3: Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip

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Speaker 3: on the line.

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Speaker 2: Stat already did and he left the Clay and Buck

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Speaker 2: audience this message.

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Speaker 4: The world is moving on from the dollar. Quietly but steadily.

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Speaker 4: These nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade,

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Speaker 4: and the US dollar is no longer the centerpiece. That

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Speaker 4: shift doesn't happen overnight, but make no mistake, it's already begun.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Philip. Protect the value of your savings account,

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Speaker 2: your four oh one k r ira, all of them,

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Speaker 2: by purchasing gold and placing it into those accounts and

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Speaker 2: reducing your exposure to a declining dollar value. Text my

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Speaker 2: name Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. You

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Speaker 2: get the free information you'll need to make the right decision.

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Speaker 2: You can rely on Birch Gold Group as I do

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Speaker 2: to give you the information you need to make an

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Speaker 2: informed decision. One more time, Text my name Buck to

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Speaker 3: Welcome in Friday edition, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Let's

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Speaker 3: We got a couple of really interesting guests. Grant Napier

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Speaker 3: us in the third hour. The sort of Hollywood woke

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Speaker 3: Attorney General Pam Bondi has authorized a special prosecutor, Ed Martin.

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Speaker 5: On May thirty, first of twenty twenty, I was sitting

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Speaker 5: You know what's crazy about this, Clay? Leading up to

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Speaker 5: to show black lives matter don't come after us. Oh no,

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Speaker 5: I mean, think about that. Clay, a thirty two year career,

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Speaker 3: Why what lessons sitting here five years later do you

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm very excited. It just kind of all happened

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Speaker 5: what have I learned in the last five years? You

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Speaker 5: know Zoobie music. Yeah, yeah, well over a million followers

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Speaker 5: on social media. And I wrote this down a couple

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Speaker 5: of years ago because I thought he deals in common sense.

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Speaker 5: He's like you, you know, you guys deal in common sense.

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Speaker 5: He wrote, Black lives matter because all lives matter, White

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Speaker 5: lives matter because all lives matter. All lives couldn't matter,

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Speaker 5: if black or white lives didn't matter or any others.

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Speaker 5: Stop being dumb and dividing over basic stuff we already

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Speaker 5: agree on. Here's what I've learned over the last five years.

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Speaker 5: I've been blessed to travel. I've been to Europe, I

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Speaker 5: frequently go to Thailand, and I've talked to a lot

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Speaker 5: of people from a lot of different cultures, different backgrounds,

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Speaker 5: different countries. We're the only people, I think, on the

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Speaker 5: planet that are even debating this and talking about this.

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Speaker 5: This is not a topic anywhere else in the world.

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Speaker 5: I don't understand why here we are in twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: five and there are people even on my social media

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Speaker 5: over the last twenty four hours, you know, talking about well,

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Speaker 5: gee didn't he learn you can't say all lives matter

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Speaker 5: and know those are very much in the minority. Those

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Speaker 5: were only a few people. But the point is there

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Speaker 5: are still some people in this country that think that

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Speaker 5: all lives matter is a racist comment. I don't get

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Speaker 5: that all lives matter, every single one doesn't have any

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Speaker 5: great area to me. All lives matter, every single one,

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Speaker 5: I would think is pretty self explanatory. But I think

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Speaker 5: Zoobie summarized it perfectly, so what have I learned in

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Speaker 5: the last five years. I've learned that it's really only

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Speaker 5: an issue in America with the woke culture, and if

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Speaker 5: you're not politically correct, you're going to get attacked. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's a joke. It's an absolute joke what I've gone through.

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Speaker 5: I've got great support. I don't have any problem putting

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Speaker 5: my head on the pillow at night. I'm grateful for

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Speaker 5: this opportunity to get back to Sacramento Radio. But again,

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Speaker 5: I don't know what the big deal is. And you know,

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Speaker 5: it's such a shame that in America. And I don't

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Speaker 5: want to go off on a tangent here, but everything's

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Speaker 5: about black and white. Why does it have to be

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Speaker 5: like that? Again, when I travel around the world and

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Speaker 5: talk to people from different cultures, it's not like that

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Speaker 5: there entirely, and which I love, and it's a great country.

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Speaker 5: They don't care what your ethnicity is, your religion, your

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Speaker 5: sexual orientation. They're just good people. They're happy people, they work.

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Speaker 5: They don't even talk about this stuff. But in America

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Speaker 5: it's like a daily conversation. I don't understand it.

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Speaker 3: I think this is important conversation and I want to

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Speaker 3: go back to the difference between public and private commentary.

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Speaker 3: What I try to do, for better or worse, and

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Speaker 3: I screw up all the time on the show. I

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Speaker 3: can barely pronounce half the words that I try to

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Speaker 3: say on a day to day basispecially as anybody long

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Speaker 3: term listening would recognize, try to have fun with it.

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Speaker 3: But what I try to do is there's very little

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Speaker 3: difference between what I would say publicly and what I

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Speaker 3: would say privately. And I think that's why people have

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Speaker 3: never really been able grant to come after me, because

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Speaker 3: that's what I've done my whole career. I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: I'm perfect, but I'm just saying there is no gap.

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Speaker 3: If I go to this Atlanta Braves game tonight, which

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Speaker 3: I'm going to do with my kids, and you see

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Speaker 3: me there, what I would say to you in person

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Speaker 3: is the same thing that I would say on the radio. Now,

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Speaker 3: maybe occasionally I cursed at a sporting event, you know,

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Speaker 3: things like that, I have FCC restrictions here, so you know,

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Speaker 3: with that limited difference for you, what I found during

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Speaker 3: the BLM era, during COVID during the summer of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 3: all of that, so many people said to me privately,

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Speaker 3: I agree one hundred percent with everything you're saying, but

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Speaker 3: I'm afraid to say it publicly. And that's how the

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Speaker 3: world becomes. What happened to you is people know it's wrong,

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Speaker 3: but they're afraid of being targeted themselves. And I imagine

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Speaker 3: you saw better than most that dichotomy between what people

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Speaker 3: would say to you privately and what might be said publicly.

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Speaker 5: Totally, you're one hundred percent correct. And here's another aspect

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Speaker 5: of what I went through five years ago. So I

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Speaker 5: was fired. I had my career literally turned upside down

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Speaker 5: in thirty six hours. In the early two thousand, so

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Speaker 5: I started a foundation in Sacramento call the Future Foundation.

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Speaker 5: I had an annual golf tournament. And what we did

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Speaker 5: is we took underprivileged, at need students from high schools

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Speaker 5: in the Sacramento area. All Right, they had to fit

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Speaker 5: a certain criteria. These were first generational college students. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it was incredible my foundation that I raised the money for.

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Speaker 5: We put one hundred and four students into college and

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Speaker 5: through college, most of whom were minorities. Okay, nobody spent

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Speaker 5: five minutes and said who whoa whoa Whoaha, Wait a minute,

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Speaker 5: Look at what this guy's done for the community. Look

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Speaker 5: what he's done for the black community. I think we

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Speaker 5: had thirty eight students of color that I put through college.

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Speaker 5: It's like that didn't matter. It was just a knee jerk,

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Speaker 5: ridiculous action by the company that fired me. And I

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Speaker 5: agree with you about the private public thing. I think

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Speaker 5: things are different now, and I think people are much

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Speaker 5: more open about coming out and feeling confident about speaking

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Speaker 5: your opinion and what they believe in. But in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 5: people were paranoid. You know that, Clay, I mean people

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Speaker 5: that listen. If you were white, I'm just you know this,

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Speaker 5: If you were a white person in the media, okay,

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Speaker 5: you had to be walking on eight shells to go

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Speaker 5: out and say anything even remotely negative about Black Lives matter.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you would have been canceled. I was canceled, right,

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Speaker 5: I was canceled five years ago. I was part of

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Speaker 5: the cancel culture. And everyone knows it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 3: Well, Look, Grant, congratulations on your new radio show in Sacramento. Again,

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people out there listening to

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Speaker 3: us right now in Sacramento.

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Speaker 1: Know you well.

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Speaker 3: And I am glad that you are finally getting back

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Speaker 3: to doing what you do well. But I do think

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Speaker 3: it's a lesson of how the world lost its mind

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Speaker 3: in sports and otherwise, culture, politics, everywhere else. I appreciate

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Speaker 3: you making the time for us, and congrats on the

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Speaker 3: new show.

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Speaker 5: Well thanks for having me on. Bottom line, I'm happy,

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Speaker 5: I have no regrets, I'm all good, and I can't

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Speaker 5: wait for this next chapter. And I greatly respect you,

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Speaker 5: love your work, and thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 3: He's Grant Napier and you can listen to him Sports

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Speaker 3: Soccer Radio in Sacramento, where he never should have been

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Speaker 3: off the air in the first place. We'll take some

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Speaker 3: reactions to that, and I do think his story is

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Speaker 3: emblematic of as we come up on the five year

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Speaker 3: anniversary of all that chaos, all the things that were

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Speaker 3: done wrong and what is being rejected now and all

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Speaker 3: of the fixing that is going on, for lack of

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Speaker 3: a better word, in the Trump regime. I want to

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Speaker 3: tell you right now, if you want to help people

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Speaker 3: that are having danger rained down on their homes quite

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Speaker 3: legitimately every single day, you can go right now to

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Speaker 3: online at IFCJ dot org. That's IFCG, IFCJ dot org,

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Speaker 3: and you can help to make sure that all the

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Speaker 3: people that are having to rush to bomb shelters all

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Speaker 3: day long in Israel, that they have places to go to.

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Speaker 3: That's what the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews does.

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Speaker 3: They provide critical first aid and emergency supplies, including bomb shelters.

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Speaker 3: I saw it for myself. They need your help now

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Speaker 3: more than ever in the wake of October or seventh.

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Speaker 1: Eight eight eight four eight eight.

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Speaker 3: IFCJ is the phone number, the website again, IFCJ dot org,

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Speaker 3: that's IFCJ dot org.

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Speaker 10: Stories are freedom stories of America, inspirational stories that you

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Speaker 10: unite us all each day, spend time with Clay and

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Speaker 10: buy find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever

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Speaker 10: you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. All right,

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Speaker 3: granted apier if you missed that right at the top

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Speaker 3: of the hour here in hour two Friday edition. I

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Speaker 3: do think it is really indicative. I want to have

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Speaker 3: a big conversation about this because I do think that

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Speaker 3: much of the ills that have been created in this

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Speaker 3: country are slowly being eradicated, and I think a lot

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Speaker 3: of it is directly connected to social media, and I've

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Speaker 3: been thinking a lot about this because culture and I

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Speaker 3: understand by the way, in the third hour, we're going

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Speaker 3: to talk about Hollywood movie some and I understand. Let

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Speaker 3: me give you a couple of updates because everything is

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Speaker 3: basically a court decision that happens every single day. Have

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Speaker 3: you noticed that almost every bit of opposition for Trump

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Speaker 3: is now court related, So it feels like every day

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Speaker 3: we have a different Department of Justice update, we have

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Speaker 3: a different Circuit Court update, district court update.

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Speaker 1: I never would have believed.

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Speaker 3: When I went to law school twenty some odd years

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Speaker 3: ago that I would end up doing what I do

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Speaker 3: today and that so much of everything would boil down

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Speaker 3: to what judges are saying on a day to day basis.

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Speaker 3: But I do want to mention this because it is

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Speaker 3: a significant court ruling and it's in favor of Trump,

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Speaker 3: as most of these rulings frankly have been. And so

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Speaker 3: let me give this to you straight. This happened in

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Speaker 3: the last hour and a half or so. I mentioned

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Speaker 3: already that Pam Bondi authorized Special Prosecutor Ed Martin to

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Speaker 3: look into Senator Adam Schiff of California and Letitia James

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Speaker 3: relating to mortgage fraud. This is I'm reading directly from

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Speaker 3: Bill Malugin at Fox News. A federal appeals court has

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Speaker 3: reversed federal Judge James Boseberg's ruling of probable cause to

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Speaker 3: hold the Trump administration in contempt of court over the

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Speaker 3: deportation of Venezuelan illegal aliens to l Salvador via the

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Speaker 3: Alien Enemies Act. Legal win for Trump administration, and that

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Speaker 3: is very detailed, packed with legalies there, but basically what

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Speaker 3: it means is the president can put illegal immigrants on airplanes,

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Speaker 3: especially if they have violent records, and send them out

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Speaker 3: of the country, and individual judges don't have the power

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Speaker 3: to decide, hey, turn that plane around. You don't have

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Speaker 3: executive authority to do that. So this is the DC circuit.

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Speaker 3: This was one Judge Boseburg, who is basically decided that

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Speaker 3: he is the Trump opposition, the chief of the Trump

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Speaker 3: opposition in judicial robes sitting, not the full DC Circuit,

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Speaker 3: but a three judge panel has overturned that decision two

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Speaker 3: to one.

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Speaker 1: So from here.

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Speaker 3: And again, I never would have believe that this is

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Speaker 3: what I would go to law school and end up doing,

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Speaker 3: because I didn't think really that the courts would essentially

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Speaker 3: become our news stories on a day to day basis.

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Speaker 3: From here, there is either a full appeal to the

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Speaker 3: entire DC Circuit, all of them. There are a bunch

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Speaker 3: of judges there, or this would then go on to

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Speaker 3: the Supreme Court if it were in some way appealed,

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Speaker 3: and we would find out whether or not it is

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Speaker 3: able to that that ruling is able to stand. I'm

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Speaker 3: here to tell you it is not an individual federal

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Speaker 3: District court judge, as we told you when this happened,

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Speaker 3: does not have the power to say to the President

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Speaker 3: of the United States, turn that plane around and bring

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Speaker 3: it back to the country. That is crazy. The fact

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Speaker 3: that he attempted to do it is crazy. It is

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Speaker 3: not dissimilar to what happened in the Ninth Circuit when

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Speaker 3: you had I believe it was Judge Brier, a federal

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Speaker 3: District court judge there try to say Trump didn't have

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Speaker 3: the ability to call in the Guard to help with

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Speaker 3: all of the protests that were going on against Ice.

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Speaker 3: If the president can't call in state and National Guard,

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Speaker 3: and if he doesn't have the power when he sees

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Speaker 3: issues arising to put them down, then there is no

653
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Speaker 3: supremacy clause, and we told you this at the time.

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Speaker 3: Individual state governors cannot overrule the president of the United

655
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Speaker 3: States when it comes to issues relating to the National

656
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Speaker 3: Guard or to the State Guard. So anyway, all of

657
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 3: that has continued to be a battle. Trump is in

658
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: the right. All of the resistance two point zero is

659
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: not coming, by and large from the Democrat Party. It's

660
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: not coming from organized mass protests. There's been virtually none.

661
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: There is not the energy this term to be doing that,

662
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: even with likely money being spent by Trump's adversaries. So

663
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: it's basically federal district court judges who have decided we

664
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 3: don't like some of the decisions that Trump is making

665
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: and we are going to oppose them. So that happened

666
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Speaker 3: today Boseburg in DC being shot down by the three

667
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Speaker 3: judge panel that considered the ruling that he attempted to

668
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: put in place that would have limited President Trump's power. Okay,

669
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: now you just heard from Grant Napier, who was fired.

670
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Speaker 3: He said he spent thirty two years as the voice

671
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: of the Sacramento Kings, twenty six years doing sports, and

672
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: he lost his job for tweeting all lives matter, every

673
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 3: single one five years later. Credit to Fox Sports Radio Sacramento.

674
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: He is being given back his ability to talk about

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Speaker 3: sports on the radio. But I don't know if there

676
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 3: is a better story out there than Grant Napiers to

677
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: illustrate just how crazy the country went and how crazy

678
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Speaker 3: sports went. I did a story, and I was one

679
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: of the few people who would actually speak out in

680
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Speaker 3: favor of Grant, because Bucket likes to joke about this sometimes.

681
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Speaker 3: But when you attack me, I double or triple or

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Speaker 3: quadruple down. I don't tiptoe up. I don't step back

683
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Speaker 3: and say, hey, I'm sorry, I was wrong here. I

684
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: knew in real time as most people did. Firing somebody

685
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: for tweeting all lives matter, every single one is indefensible.

686
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 3: It is indisputably true, and it is not racist, and

687
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: it is not worthy of someone losing their job, a

688
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: job that they had done well for thirty two years

689
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 3: and twenty six years. Most people knew that most people

690
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: were cowards. And this is how Buck and I met

691
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: because Buck was similar in that he didn't back down

692
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: surrounding COVID. He didn't back down surrounding BLM, and neither

693
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: did I. And what has often disappointed me. And I'm

694
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: glad that we're in the payback stage where so many

695
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 3: people who made so many awful decisions are now being

696
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: rejected being held accountable. But I'm still very troubled that

697
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: all of that happened, because what it told me about

698
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 3: human nature is cowardice is far more common than bravery.

699
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: And what it told me was a lot of people

700
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Speaker 3: will shut their mouths if they think anything negative might

701
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 3: happen to them, even if they know what's going on

702
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: is wrong. And I, back in those days, would regularly

703
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: come on my show and I would call out rich

704
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 3: people because I got so angry. I understand. I don't

705
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 3: think it's fair. I don't think it's right. It makes

706
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: me sick to my stomach. But I understood in twenty twenty,

707
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Speaker 3: if you had a job, you were trying to get

708
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Speaker 3: your kid into college, you had a mortgage to pay,

709
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Speaker 3: and you just said, I can't can't afford to lose

710
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 3: this job. I understand why a lot of those people

711
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 3: were afraid to speak out because they had no power.

712
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 3: And that's why, really, starting about twenty twenty, when I

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Speaker 3: would see people out in public, and certainly since I've

714
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: started doing this show with Buck in twenty twenty twenty

715
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 3: twenty one, what people would come up and say to

716
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: me was you say what I wish I could say?

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Speaker 1: Thank you?

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Speaker 3: And as a guy who did sports, I never had

719
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 3: heard that before because it's sports, right, Like, who cares?

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Speaker 1: I love it.

721
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: But if I say that your team's gonna win the

722
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: Super Bowl or lose the Super Bowl, or win the

723
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Speaker 3: National Championship or not win the National Championship, ver bad.

724
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 3: That was a bad call. I love it, but it's

725
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 3: the toy chest of life. Unless you're on the team,

726
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 3: own the team, or are in some way directly compensated

727
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 3: by the team, whoever wins a championship doesn't probably change

728
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 3: your life that much. But in twenty twenty during COVID,

729
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: during BLM, when they tried to put President Trump in

730
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: prison for the rest of his life, that stuff really

731
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: does matter.

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Speaker 1: And so I.

733
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Speaker 3: Understood if you were out there and you were struggling

734
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Speaker 3: and you just wanted to pay your mortgage and you

735
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: just wanted to get your kids into school, and you

736
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 3: would get on social media and you would think, man,

737
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 3: I really want to say something. I bet a lot

738
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 3: of you wrote something on Facebook. I bet a lot

739
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: of you wrote something on Twitter or Instagram or maybe

740
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Speaker 3: even an email that you were thinking about sending inside

741
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Speaker 3: of your company, and then you hit the lead because

742
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: you said, I can't afford to lose my job. And

743
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: your primary job as a dad or a mom, in

744
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: my opinion, is to provide for your family. Everything else

745
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: is secondary. So I understood why those people, why many

746
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: of y'all out there, I have been in this world before.

747
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 3: I understood why a lot of people hit the lead.

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Speaker 3: The people that I still have a lot of contempt

749
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: for are the people who were filthy rich, said they

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00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 3: agreed with everything that I said, and then never spoke

751
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: out Because I got to be honest with y'all. If

752
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 3: you have fu money, if you have money where you're

753
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 3: never gonna have to worry about paying a mortgage. You

754
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 3: got a second home, you got a third home, you

755
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 3: got fancy cars, you got kids that you can stroke

756
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 3: a check for to go to any college in the country.

757
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 3: Your cowardice made me sick, and I saw it everywhere.

758
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: People who run companies, people who never had to worry

759
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: about anything financially for the rest.

760
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: Of their life, they turned tail.

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00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: They to me, were the biggest cowards because they were

762
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: the kind of people who said fire fire, Grant Napier

763
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: for saying all lives matter, every single one. And frankly,

764
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: I'm never going to forgive those people because a lot

765
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 3: of them now they're front runners, they're cheerleaders. Yay, we

766
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: get a tax cut. Boy, I'm glad Trump won. Where

767
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 3: were you when it mattered? I think about this all

768
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: the time. Where were you when there were consequences, when

769
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: there were cost when somebody might not have set you

770
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 3: on whatever flipping charity board you're on.

771
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 1: Where were you? You were a yellow bellied coward.

772
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: You let sit sas like Grant Napier happen everywhere, and

773
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: you didn't do a damn thing. So money is only

774
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 3: useful in the context of what it allows you to

775
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: do that you otherwise wouldn't be able to do. There's

776
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 3: a great line. This is why when everybody drafts new quarterbacks,

777
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: what they care about so much is how much do

778
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: you love what you do? Because as soon as you

779
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 3: get that fifty million dollar check, there's pretty girls everywhere,

780
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: there's fancy cars, there's really great vacations. If you don't

781
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 3: love what you're doing, money will make you more of

782
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 3: what you already are. If you are a die hard,

783
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: I'm getting up and I am grinding, and I'm gonna

784
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: bust my ass. You sell a company, you sign a

785
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: fifty million dollar deal, you do the same thing you

786
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: were doing before you got them. But if you're the

787
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,479
Speaker 3: kind of person who looks around worries all the time

788
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 3: about what people are going to say about you, you

789
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 3: become even more of a coward the more money you get.

790
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 3: And there are so many of those people out there,

791
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 3: and I think about them. The Grant Napier story is

792
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 3: a good one. Most of us are never going to

793
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: have billions of dollars. We're not going to own radio stations,

794
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: we're not going to own companies that when they come

795
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: to you with an employee sending a tweet, it's your

796
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: decision what to do. But a lot of people had that.

797
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 3: And now that Trump's in office, they're waving the pom

798
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 3: poms and they're running around and they're cheering. I don't

799
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: care who wants to celebrate after a victory. I want

800
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: to know who's going to be there when you get

801
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: your ass kicked, because that's character, that's courage. And Grant

802
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: Apier's story, Oh, there's an awful lot of people who

803
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: will send you a text or make a phone call

804
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: and say, boy, I feel really bad for you. Yeah, that,

805
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: you know would be great. As if you would say

806
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 3: that public, well I can't do that, well, they might

807
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 3: be mad at me. Then so many people who knew better,

808
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: and so many people who had the resources to have

809
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 3: nobody ever actually be able to do anything to them.

810
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: They were nowhere to be found when it mattered most.

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00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: And now guess what, you look up and some of

812
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 3: those people are some of the biggest cheerleaders because Trump's

813
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: back in office. Now, just remember it, and remember how

814
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 3: quickly those front runners will fade as soon as somebody

815
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 3: else is in power, and as soon as somebody else

816
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 3: makes them a little bit uncomfortable and requires any element

817
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,800
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818
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Speaker 3: Just think about it. We're gonna keep talking about this.

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna dive in and even kind of talk

822
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Speaker 1: But in the meantime, people with.

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Speaker 3: I bet a lot of the people out there that

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828
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Speaker 3: I thought this was a fun topic. I was reading

849
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Speaker 3: this morning getting ready for all the prep. By the way, Buck,

850
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 3: we'll be back with me Monday. He's in the Highlands

851
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 3: through the weekend with his family, so he's texted me

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Speaker 3: that he's met a lot of you, and so thanks

853
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 3: for everybody who's being super kind to him. And thanks,

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Speaker 3: by the way to Extra one. OZH six point three

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Speaker 3: are Atlanta, Georgia area affiliate. I'm going to watch the

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Speaker 3: Atlanta Braves with my family for the weekend. It has

857
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 3: not been a great season. I know that Ian Miller

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Speaker 3: is a big Dodgers fan. It has been a good

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00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 3: Dodger season. Maybe wants to talk trash about that. But

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Speaker 3: I was reading your piece this morning as I was

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Speaker 3: getting ready, Ian and Ian Wright said OutKick owned by

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Speaker 3: Fox News now, but that I founded and Ian my

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Speaker 3: kids love, and my family has long loved all the

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Speaker 3: superhero movies. I've got three boys. I've seen every superhero

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Speaker 3: movie in the theaters. It feels like to me, Avengers

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Speaker 3: Endgame happened, and it was the two part finale, and frankly,

867
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Speaker 3: it was pretty fantastic.

868
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Speaker 1: I loved it.

869
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: It was really well done, and ever since then people

870
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: have basically decided superhero movies were finished with them.

871
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,959
Speaker 1: Is that a bad take? Fair take?

872
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: How would you analyze this and what is American response

873
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 3: to these movies in your mind?

874
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Speaker 1: Telling us about the larger culture?

875
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 11: Well, first of all, always happy to talk trash about

876
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 11: the Dodgers being the braves whenever necessary. But as far

877
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 11: as the superhero movies go, I think you're exactly right.

878
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 11: After Avengers Endgame, there's this dramatic shift, and I think

879
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 11: you can kind of point it to Marvel completely changing

880
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 11: their philosophy of what characters they wanted to present, how

881
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 11: they wanted to present them. So you can go back

882
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 11: and look at the list of movies they've released since

883
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Speaker 11: twenty twenty, it's things like Black Widow, Shuan chi Eternals,

884
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Speaker 11: you know, Ant Man three, the Marvels, things like that,

885
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Speaker 11: and they've flopped. I mean, it's been one disaster after another.

886
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 11: There's been a couple of successes mixed in there, but

887
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Speaker 11: for the large part, it's been really these movies that

888
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 11: have just not done very well. And I think they've

889
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 11: kind of had these checkboxes of targets. They wanted to

890
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 11: hit people. They wanted to target these movies too, and

891
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 11: it hasn't panned out. And I think that there is

892
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 11: a fatigue now and people have really kind of tuned

893
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 11: them out in the American culture, and then people are

894
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 11: sick and tired of going to the movies not knowing

895
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 11: if they're going to get some kind of unexpected political lecture.

896
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Speaker 11: And was supposed to be a summer fun popcorn movie.

897
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Speaker 1: Have you seen the Newest Superman?

898
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Speaker 11: I haven't. Actually no, I haven't seen it.

899
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Speaker 1: I haven't either.

900
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Speaker 3: My wife and youngest son went and watched it and

901
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 3: they said that it was not particularly woke. But James Gunn,

902
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: the director, said that the movie was political. Before he

903
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 3: came out, he said it was an immigration story, so

904
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 3: he said, of course it's political, and I think it

905
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 3: stripped a lot of what otherwise would have been maybe

906
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Speaker 3: positivity for the movie away. And you dove into the

907
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 3: math because a lot of people don't dive into the math.

908
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Speaker 1: You're a smart guy.

909
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 3: The reason I first became aware of you was you

910
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 3: were porting out the math of you Live in la

911
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 3: and how COVID was absolutely handled in just an indefensible

912
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 3: management manner by California. And we may circle back on

913
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Speaker 3: that in a sec. But what is the math on Superman.

914
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 3: It's headed for losing money, even though most people aren't

915
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 3: really breaking it down.

916
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Speaker 11: Yeah, and I think that's you hit it me on

917
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Speaker 11: the head again with Gun's comments. It was just so

918
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 11: unnecessary and bizarre. And I think even though the movie

919
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 11: was particularly political, it made it political, and you know,

920
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 11: it hasn't done that poorly domestically. But what we've seen

921
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 11: is that, you know, maybe if it costs itself, maybe

922
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 11: there were two million people that were going to go

923
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Speaker 11: see it we're on the fence and didn't because of

924
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 11: what Gunn said. Well, that's two million people that didn't

925
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Speaker 11: buy twenty dollars movie tickets and so on and so forth,

926
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 11: and it adds up over time. And right now where

927
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 11: it's tracking is that it's probably going to lose somewhere

928
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 11: around the you know, seventy to eighty one hundred million

929
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 11: dollars globally because you know, the production budget is so high,

930
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 11: the advertising budget is so high. It had to make

931
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 11: around seven hundred million dollars globally to break even. It's

932
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Speaker 11: not going to do that. And when you adjust for inflation.

933
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Speaker 11: It's done significantly worse than Man of Steel, which was

934
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Speaker 11: kind of the last big Superman movie that came out,

935
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Speaker 11: which is twenty thirteen. So it just it's an unnecessary

936
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 11: comment that I think turned people off to seeing it

937
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Speaker 11: that were otherwise had no reason not to go see it.

938
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Speaker 3: I talked earlier Ian about the culture of sports. We

939
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: talked to Grant and Aper who was out in California

940
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 3: where you live, lost his job for simply saying, all

941
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 3: lives matter, every single one. Certainly, there's been a great

942
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: deal of discussion about Sidney Sweeney. I don't know if

943
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 3: you've happened to see all of the sec sorority recruitment

944
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 3: videos that are going wildly viral now, including very patriotic ones,

945
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Speaker 3: even living in California. Do you sense that we have

946
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 3: seen a profound cultural shift or are you skeptical?

947
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 9: No?

948
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 11: I definitely do think there has been a cultural shift,

949
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 11: and it's especially among I think younger generations that you

950
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 11: had for so many years, this kind of political movement

951
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 11: that woke, for lack of a better word, that wanted

952
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 11: to like stamp out fun and just being able to

953
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 11: enjoy yourself without apologizing for it. And I think the

954
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 11: younger generations have finally tuned that out. I think there

955
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 11: was about a ten to fifteen year window where people

956
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 11: were kind of listening to that and how people are

957
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 11: tired of it and thank God for it, and I

958
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 11: think that's part of the reason why these movies have failed.

959
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 11: And once you kind of lose the benefit of the

960
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 11: doubt of the consumer, it's very hard to get it back.

961
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 11: And that cultural shift is part of it. People have

962
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 11: changed how they view movies, how they view entertainment, what

963
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 11: they want to get out of entertainment, and you know,

964
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 11: when you're not providing that, you're not going to do well.

965
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Speaker 5: And that's what we've.

966
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Speaker 1: Seen twenty twenty eight. It's early.

967
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Speaker 3: We may still end up with Gavin Newsom against Governor

968
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis. It does feel to me like that is

969
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 3: the most evidently opposite political perspectives from a governatorial perspective

970
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 3: right now, right what Florida did during COVID, the way

971
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 3: that they have run their state, what California did during COVID,

972
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 3: the way that Gavin Newsom has run his state. As

973
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 3: someone living in California, are more people acknowledging that Gavin

974
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 3: Newsom got it wrong when you're moving around in social circles.

975
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 3: Or do you think people in California now, rather than

976
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 3: admit they got things wrong, are just pretending COVID never

977
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 3: happened and moving on.

978
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:55,959
Speaker 1: What is the vibe there?

979
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it's a bit of a mixed bag

980
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 11: where there are some people that are just pretending it

981
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 11: never happened, and there are, but there are a number

982
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 11: of people that kind of were on the political left

983
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 11: that have acknowledged, you know, we got this wrong. I

984
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 11: think Newsom's approval ratings have been underwater, even in California

985
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 11: and one of the most hardcore blue states, because he's

986
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 11: done such a bad job, and that contrast could not

987
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 11: be more stark with COVID. But it's also with everything.

988
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 11: Like if there's a natural disaster in Florida, rond de

989
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 11: Santis has got everything prepared ahead of time, the response

990
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 11: is immaculate, it's immediate, and things are fixed quickly and

991
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 11: people are back up and running within a matter of days.

992
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 11: In California, we have just this spectacular incompetence where everything

993
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 11: is slow, nothing gets done quickly, the responses are never

994
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 11: planned ahead of time. Obviously, we had the disastrous fires

995
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 11: in La in January, and the recovery has been a

996
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 11: train wreck. And it's just that exemplifies what has happened

997
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 11: with Newsom versus in California and the failure in Blue

998
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 11: states compared to what we've seen in Florida.

999
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 3: Jennifer Say is a friend of mine. She's founded a

1000
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 3: clothing company xx x Y Athletics. Some of you may

1001
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 3: have seen it. She used to work at Levi's, which

1002
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 3: was based in San Francisco. And since I was just

1003
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 3: asking you about COVID, I know you were fired up

1004
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 3: about this. Ian As a dad, I spoke out immensely

1005
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 3: about the importance of schools being reopened. I continue to

1006
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 3: meet so many kids out there that had their schools

1007
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 3: shut down. I met a kid up at the University

1008
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 3: of Chicago recently went to school in California. He said, yeah,

1009
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 3: we left in March. I was a junior in high

1010
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 3: school and I never came back again, and so he

1011
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 3: only saw his classmates again at graduation. You think about

1012
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 3: what happens when you're sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old. Jennifer

1013
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 3: has made a documentary and I would encourage you guys

1014
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 3: to watch this, but Ian, I want to play it

1015
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: for you, and then I want to get your reaction

1016
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 3: to whether we have had what should have been a

1017
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 3: full sort of reconciliation in some way for the disaster

1018
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: of shutting down schools. But this book focuses on kid

1019
00:57:55,840 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 3: This documentary focuses on kids. It has been completed, full disclosure.

1020
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 3: I donated money to help make it. But I think

1021
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 3: it is really really good. Here is cut five. This

1022
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 3: is a new film documenting the impact of COVID lockdowns

1023
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 3: on kids.

1024
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: Just listen to this audio.

1025
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 11: Western democracy has been replaced with a biosecurity state laws.

1026
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 9: Restaurants, food courts, gyms, and other indoor and outdoor venues

1027
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 9: where groups of people congregate should be closed.

1028
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 10: I expected it to only be for like two weeks

1029
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 10: and then we get back to school.

1030
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 4: At the time, it felt great, and then surely.

1031
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: Enough it started to be very worrying.

1032
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 10: I had a planned to myself and I thought about

1033
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 10: it every day.

1034
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 11: You cannot treat kids like prisoners and expecting to be okay.

1035
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: The memories that we have bossed, the experiences that we

1036
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: have watched, the skills that we have watched, and now

1037
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: we have to regain marriage and go out into the world.

1038
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: There has to be an honest discussion about what went on.

1039
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: Is this something that my generation will not forget?

1040
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 3: Me?

1041
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: This is also something that my generation will not.

1042
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 3: Forgive It's really powerful. And again the film is called

1043
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 3: Generation COVID. When I travel around and I spend a

1044
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 3: lot of time on college campuses, I don't think we

1045
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 3: are talking enough about the anger of fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen,

1046
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 3: twenty year old kids who had years of their life

1047
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 3: taken away for a virus that bore them no threat

1048
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 3: at all. They're profoundly angry. I think it's one reason

1049
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 3: young men in particular have moved so aggressively towards Trump.

1050
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 3: Do you sense that, Ian, Because I really do, and

1051
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 3: I don't think it's talked about hardly at all.

1052
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 11: I completely agree. I think that it's absolutely one of

1053
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,479
Speaker 11: the biggest explanations for how the culture has shifted, how

1054
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 11: young men have shifted. You know, they had their youth

1055
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 11: kind of taken away from them. Listening to that Anthony

1056
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 11: Fauci out there is that's the perfect example where you

1057
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 11: had this one man who was making kind of dictatorial

1058
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 11: statements about what should happen, never really presenting any evidence

1059
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 11: for it and then never correcting himself or apologizing when

1060
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 11: he found out he was wrong. And because you know,

1061
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 11: you had these these restrictions going for years and years

1062
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 11: and years, and children were incredibly harmed by this, and

1063
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 11: there was never any discussion. If there's never been any

1064
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 11: discussion of it, it's that we were saying about California.

1065
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 11: People just want to forget that it happened. But the

1066
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 11: people that live through it have not forgotten, and they're

1067
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 11: not going to forget. And I think it's going to

1068
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 11: change their lives forever with how they view politics or

1069
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 11: they view government, how they view these restrictions. And you know,

1070
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 11: I think we we have not really fully reckoned with

1071
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 11: it because we don't want to. We don't want to

1072
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 11: admit what we did to that generation and how it's

1073
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 11: going to impact them for the rest of their lives.

1074
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 3: Ian appreciate the work. Tell people how they can find

1075
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 3: you out there. But good stuff on diving into the

1076
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 3: math behind some of these movies and continuing to fight

1077
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 3: for basic sanity when it comes to data.

1078
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 11: Thanks for having me, Clay ye right and now kick

1079
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 11: every day and on Twitter just be an MSc.

1080
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot for having me it's awesome.

1081
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Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll play some of your reactions

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