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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion.

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Speaker 3: To this show.

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 3: This this Morning Combat. It is August twenty fourth, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 3: and it is time doncs for Morning Combat. Hi everyone,

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Speaker 3: I am one half of your hosting duo. My name

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Speaker 3: is Luke Thomas. I am joined on well the other

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Speaker 3: side of the screen by the gentleman you know in

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Speaker 3: love from CBS Sports and various Cumberland Farms gas stations,

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Speaker 3: rummaging through the trash can like a rabbit raccoon. It

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Speaker 3: is the one and only Brian Campbell. Mister Campbell, how

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Speaker 3: do you do?

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Speaker 1: Suh full mass, Luke, if you're asking me honestly right now, okay,

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Speaker 1: because we've teased many many an episode about that MK

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Speaker 1: rocket ship, right you know, right, if you get if

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Speaker 1: We did. We searched it and it's it's launching, Luke

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Speaker 1: your big announcement Sunday night on social media just the beginning.

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Speaker 1: There are things that we can even talk about right now, Luke,

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Speaker 1: that will continue to make this show your announcement. The fever,

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Speaker 1: the feeling that's inside of us just grow and get larger.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna spread this like an STD on a college

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Speaker 1: dorm room. This show's going places. And congratulations Luke on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the COVID like the dorms at UNC. That's how

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Speaker 3: But here's the big deal. This is the last Morning

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look and congratulations. Look the big story.

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Speaker 1: Is is you know you went corporate, and I'm proud

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Speaker 1: they and you couldn't hear that, Luke because Jay is

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Speaker 1: our producer. But uh, Webscream even even tracked down some

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Speaker 3: him very wrongly to begin with. Then he shocks them

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Speaker 2: You just know how UFC operates.

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Speaker 1: For him to be able to go through that and

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty special performance there.

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Speaker 3: No, there's no Again, I don't want to I don't

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Speaker 3: into it. I mean, Petro Munoz hits hard, but he's

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Speaker 3: This is not this is not some like Lamb to

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's a tough road to hoe for him at one

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Speaker 3: he's there too. He's there to be a competitor. Just

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Speaker 4: A ton of work to do.

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Speaker 3: So phenomenal first start, but you should not be surprised.

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Speaker 3: Don't bury the guy.

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Speaker 1: Really, is there really a ton of work to do?

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Speaker 1: I mean this pretty much. You know, could have given

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Speaker 3: Being Joe's really over sterling.

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Speaker 1: Really, no, I'm not telling you he's getting the next one.

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Speaker 3: Luke, all right, I'm not. I'm just I just I

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Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty five pound Christ. He's not that.

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Speaker 3: There's there's very very tough guys at the top of

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Speaker 4: So again, to me, it's fine, he's not.

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Speaker 1: Gonna have to go through all those guys because they're

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Speaker 3: You're saying that one will be a champion. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: that's probably true. So let's say he beats I don't know,

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Speaker 3: away class Sterling would do the next one over there

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Speaker 3: One more question about this BC, A little bit of

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Speaker 1: Oh, stop that, stop that crap, Come on, make flywap

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Speaker 1: one off night to make you happy, Luke. But I

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Speaker 2: Who would he be right now?

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Speaker 1: If he was Bandamwait, Frankie Edgar from the beginning, would

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Speaker 4: Before the years you're ready for this, ready for this?

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Speaker 1: Very interesting because because it was weird to see him

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Speaker 4: So you know what's so funny about this?

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Speaker 3: Five years ago before the Luke Thomas show even existed.

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Speaker 3: I was on Sirius XM and live on the air.

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Speaker 3: We got a call from Mike Mark Henry. We did

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Speaker 3: not call him, we did not solicit him. He was

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Speaker 4: Rest of his time.

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Speaker 3: It's not like he's been some slouch, but that extra

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Speaker 1: Have very fair And I don't want to end the

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Speaker 1: He won the first title like eight years ago. Emma

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Speaker 2: He's got that Captain America like where you just gotta

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Speaker 3: A little bit of an anti vaxxer. But a different

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Speaker 3: story for a different time. All Right, we go on

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Speaker 1: Know, I'm sorry, you're you know you can you can

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Speaker 1: show you can take your politics, lift up that half

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just teasing. It's a sensational win. He

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Speaker 3: we go to point number two. Vadeem Nemkov, Buddy, this

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Speaker 3: But Vadeem Nemkov was easily the toughest guy that Ryan

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Speaker 3: So the question for UBC is as follows, where in

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Speaker 1: A tough five, top five is a safe answer. I

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Speaker 1: put together you know, four wins under belatour before this fight,

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Speaker 1: with three against former champions in a row and finished

434
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Speaker 1: all three of them.

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Speaker 2: So that was the wake up call that he was something.

436
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Speaker 1: Credit to you for kind of predicting this during last

437
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Speaker 1: week's show and saying people need to wake up to this.

438
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Speaker 1: The timing was funny, right, Ryan Batter comes on CBS

439
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Speaker 1: Sports HQ with me he's talked to other outlets last

440
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 1: week and is like, I'm the best light heavyweight in

441
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 1: the world, right, you know, DC's gone, John Jones is gone.

442
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 1: It is me, And I think at that point I

443
00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,679
Speaker 1: didn't want to argue with him. I thought, you know,

444
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Speaker 1: he might very well be look at the run Bader

445
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Speaker 1: has been on. But you know, you do have to

446
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,160
Speaker 1: go look back and say, it had been three years

447
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,639
Speaker 1: since Bader had fought at light heavyweight when he won

448
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 1: the championship by split decision over Phil Davis in his debut.

449
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,639
Speaker 1: He defended it once and then he went into you know,

450
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Speaker 1: the Heavyweight Grand Prix and we never saw him again.

451
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Speaker 2: So there is there were sort.

452
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Speaker 1: Of legitimate questions coming in that at thirty seven could

453
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Speaker 1: Beaterer cut back down to two.

454
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Speaker 2: Five and be the same guy.

455
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Speaker 1: But I don't think there's excuses built in on that

456
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Speaker 1: on how this performance played out. But deem Nemkov, like

457
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Speaker 1: this was a monster wake up call. He's at worst

458
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Speaker 1: right there at the at the edge of the top

459
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Speaker 1: five of light heavyweights in the world, and he has

460
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Speaker 1: a chance to be a force for Bellator because he

461
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Speaker 1: finished Ryan Bader with absolute ease. And it's not that

462
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Speaker 1: we hadn't seen Bader get knocked out before, but Luke,

463
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Speaker 1: we hadn't seen this confident, a well rounded version of

464
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Speaker 1: Beater as he became that heavyweight Grand Prix And you

465
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Speaker 1: can argue that the competition he fought or whatever, but

466
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Speaker 1: he learned about himself and that he grew His boxing

467
00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 1: came to an all new level where it was a

468
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Speaker 1: weapon and on par with his wrestling.

469
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Speaker 2: We saw a complete fighter.

470
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Speaker 1: Go in there and Nemkov just take the wheels off

471
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Speaker 1: and dismantle him. So shout out to this young kid

472
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 1: who's now taking storm. You know a little bit of

473
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Speaker 1: payback by the way, because he's Fader's boy, and of

474
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: course Ryan Vader knocked out fad Or in disastrous fashion

475
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Speaker 1: to win that heavyweight championship. So a little bit of

476
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,919
Speaker 1: backdoor sambo revenge. Yeah, I love this guy. Let me

477
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Speaker 1: buy some stock on here. Luke, did you say you

478
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,360
Speaker 1: didn't want to unwrap the carry Hartley thing? Because I'm wondering, Luke,

479
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Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about you.

480
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Speaker 2: You getting a little soft in all these stoppages.

481
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Speaker 3: Alright, Well, Okay, on Friday night, I hated it. I'm

482
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Speaker 3: just candidly I hated it. Then I thought about it

483
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Speaker 3: some more and rewatched it a few times, and I

484
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Speaker 3: was like, yeah, okay, I don't hate it nearly as

485
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Speaker 3: much as I did before. I mean, here's why, I

486
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Speaker 3: think you could have stopped it twice. One when he

487
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Speaker 3: first went down to a little to me like a.

488
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Speaker 4: Moment, he was not really with it.

489
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Speaker 3: And then he gets kind of hammer fisted back into

490
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Speaker 3: some sort of motion. The idea that he was in

491
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Speaker 3: perpetual motion I think is over. And then the second

492
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 3: time he gets knocked down, you could have called it

493
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 3: waiting for him to just go limp as he races

494
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Speaker 3: away from a guy he can't even look at. I

495
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Speaker 3: grant that that gives it some again, it gives it

496
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Speaker 3: total cleanliness.

497
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Speaker 4: But the problem is.

498
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Speaker 3: It doesn't do much for he was never meaningfully in

499
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Speaker 3: that contest. You get dropped twice with a guy like

500
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Speaker 3: that on you, and especially if you kind of went

501
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Speaker 3: limp for a second the first time.

502
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Speaker 4: I don't know why it needs to continue.

503
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Speaker 3: So I don't think it's an egregious stoppage as I

504
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 3: did the Friday night. I even said as much on Saturday.

505
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Speaker 3: But this idea of being like, oh, it was the

506
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Speaker 3: perfect stoppage. Perfect if what you're waiting for is zero

507
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 3: zero controversy about whether he was going to be able

508
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Speaker 3: to continue, right, if you want absolutely no doubt about it, yes,

509
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Speaker 3: fine to me. I don't think we necessarily need to

510
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Speaker 3: wait that long.

511
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Speaker 1: I just think there's unwritten rules. Like in baseball, there's

512
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: the unwritten tie goes to the runner. Everyone's got a

513
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: different strike zone, and MMA you let the champion get

514
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Speaker 1: his ass kicked a little longer to see if he

515
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: bounces back. All right, Luke, And all I need right

516
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: now is Josh Rosenthal a tattoo artist and announce a weed,

517
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 1: and the four and five of us can sit down

518
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: and I can reteach you about the Lesner Carwin's lack

519
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Speaker 1: of a stoppage. It was beautiful, it was wonderful.

520
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 3: Karwin is one of my favorite fights.

521
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: I love it, I love it. I love that fight.

522
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Speaker 1: So I was fine with that stoppage. But let me

523
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Speaker 1: throw that back to you. How good is Nemkov? What

524
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: do you get the feel here?

525
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Speaker 4: Here's the thing.

526
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Speaker 3: I think, if you okay, worst case scenario, worst case scenario,

527
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: I think he beats everyone in the UFC from eleven

528
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 3: to fifteen, Like that's The's the least you can say

529
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: about him. Not from there, it's pretty debatable, right because

530
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 3: you've got some guys on the come up. We've got

531
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Speaker 3: two more coming up this weekend. We'll talk about him later.

532
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Speaker 3: Alexander Rackets. He kind of fell short a little bit

533
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Speaker 3: against Usdamir, but he is just an absolute monster in

534
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 3: that division. I think he's ranked outside the top five.

535
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Speaker 3: In the top ten, that'd be an interesting fight for Nemkov. Certainly,

536
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't declare that Rackets couldn't beat him. I want

537
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Speaker 3: to be very careful about that. So I think if

538
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Speaker 3: you wanted to say the worst case scenario, he's top

539
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 3: ten in your view, I think that's probably the most

540
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 3: charitable you could put him, is right inside that top

541
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 3: five of being very careful. So I'm gonna say somewhere

542
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 3: from five to eight to me is probably where he

543
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 3: sits right now. That doesn't mean he couldn't be anyone

544
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 3: above that. He probably could. I just think, you know,

545
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: pumping the brakes a little bit on the unknowns here

546
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Speaker 3: from Nemkov.

547
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Speaker 4: That's, you know, it's.

548
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 3: Worth it to us, you know What's kind of funny

549
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 3: to me though, the whole thing is I don't I'm

550
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: certainly no expert in Russian society, but to me, you know,

551
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: to see fad Or backing this guy who was the

552
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: combat some four time combat somble world champion in Nemkov,

553
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 3: I think that fad Or, you know, who's like a

554
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 3: very orthodox Christian and from sort of the Historia owschool,

555
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 3: but sort of from a more when you associate where

556
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Speaker 3: people are from in Russia, he's sort of from that

557
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 3: kind of that kind of population. I always feel like

558
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: there's been an uneasy alliance between people from that part

559
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 3: of the country and then those absolute just killers all

560
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 3: the way through from Dakistan and Chechnya and everything else.

561
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 3: There's a big cultural divide there, if not even just

562
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 3: a religious one. It's interesting that those guys have sort

563
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 3: of taken over as the idea that we have about

564
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 3: like what it means to be a top Russian fighter,

565
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 3: and I don't think that should change. And again this

566
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 3: is sort of a smaller point of I'm just trying

567
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 3: to make. But this guy, Vadeem Nemkov sort of from

568
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 3: Fador's I think hometown, from his team. It seems to

569
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 3: me like Fador is trying to like dub this guy

570
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: the next big Russian that we should all care about,

571
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 3: and maybe we should.

572
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 4: Maybe he actually is that kind of guy.

573
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Speaker 3: It's just sort of interesting to see all the different

574
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: parts of Russia have different output in terms of talent

575
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Speaker 3: as it relates to combat sports, and this part of

576
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: it has been forgotten for a long time.

577
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 4: But here he comes. Man.

578
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 3: He is a special, special guy. He is young, he

579
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 3: is hungry, he is he is clever, he is smart,

580
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 3: he is athletic. He is going to be a handful.

581
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 3: I don't think Cory Anderson or Leota has a chance.

582
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: Lioto has a chance with this guy.

583
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Speaker 1: All right, Two things real quick here. Number one, if

584
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: we get a chance to ever interview with aboudem Nemkoff.

585
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: Please don't ask him his favorite Russian uh books to

586
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: read like you did when you sabotaged.

587
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: My fad or wouldn't give me anything, dude, I was

588
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: Straws number two.

589
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: Uh luke uh put yourself in Scott Koker shoes. I

590
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: think it's an important topic right here, real quick. You

591
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: got a rising potential stud in them cough. You got

592
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: a decently fun division at light heavyweight because Corey Anderson

593
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: just flew in. You got Machidah, you got uh uh Musasi,

594
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: You got some names you could play with move around

595
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: from other divisions.

596
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 2: Do you give Beta a second chance? Do you run

597
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 2: this back?

598
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: Or is it just is it just better off to say, hey,

599
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: better man, why don't you be the face of our

600
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 1: heavyweight division.

601
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 2: Let's find out who this kid is.

602
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 3: Josh Thompson has to me been such a great addition

603
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 3: to that Belletz War commentary booth. I find him to

604
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 3: be really, really credible as a speaker. He is smart,

605
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: he knows what he's looking at. He and Big John

606
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 3: obviously because they do a podcast together. They have great chemistry.

607
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: He doesn't suffer Mike Goldberg very very well either. So

608
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 3: like he really is turned into a wonderful commentator. And

609
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 3: so he noted Listen Bader thirty eight years old, he's

610
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,239
Speaker 3: way faster, way stronger, way better than these heavyweights. Go

611
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: ply your trade up there. It's a way to sort

612
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: of preserve your status as an elite rather than you know,

613
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 3: this guy in nemkov Man he's at the different level

614
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: right now, different age, different stage of his career. Let

615
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 3: him have light heavyweight, you go to heavyweight. I think

616
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: that's the right call.

617
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: Wow, Corey Anderson, It's gonna be a fun fight. Can't wait,

618
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:28,239
Speaker 2: can't wait?

619
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Speaker 4: Right, let's go to this.

620
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: So over the weekend on Day's in Alexander Pavetkin was

621
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 3: what do you want to say? He was losing quite

622
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 3: badly to Dillian White, having been knocked down not once

623
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 3: but twice in Eddie Hearn's backyard. It was Eddie Hearn

624
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: is the new dot F five thousand. It turns out

625
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: just a lot richer and wider. Nevertheless, they're in the

626
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: backyard of Eddie Hearn and it looked pretty good on TV.

627
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 3: If I'm can just be honest for a moment, Pavetkin,

628
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: it was going poorly BC not terribly but pretty bad.

629
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 4: And then out of nowhere.

630
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: He fakes a jab, he gets White to slip, he

631
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 3: pulls his own right hand back and then he gives

632
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 3: I think a left uppercut underneath the arm of Dillion White,

633
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: sends him to the land of wind and ghosts. What

634
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: did this win show you about a forty year old

635
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: Alexander Povetkin.

636
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 4: What does he get with it?

637
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: Well, look, he gets a mandatory shot at Tyson Fury

638
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: for that WBC title. Although let's put everything on the table.

639
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: Eddie Hearn jumped at that microphone afterwards to remind us

640
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: all that Dillion White smartly had a rematch clause built

641
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: in there. I don't know what the WBC rules are

642
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: on this, and obviously history tells you they'll bend it

643
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: if they have to. But you know, you could be

644
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: seeing this fight a second time with the idea that

645
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: that interim WBC title, which all that title really is

646
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: is it gives you the mandatory next shot, so they

647
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: could do this a second time for the chance to

648
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: face Tyson Fury.

649
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how that's all gonna work out, but

650
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: this was monster.

651
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: This was the cherry on top for Povetkin, He's had

652
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: a great career. He's also had failed drug tests and

653
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: a lot of meldonium in the system. But for a

654
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: guy who was an Olympic gold medalist and was so

655
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: close to being truly elite in the heavyweight division for

656
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: so long, he held that secondary, bastardized version of the

657
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: WBA title. Years ago he went up there and tried

658
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: his best against Vladimir Klitschko and got knocked out. We'd

659
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: seen him going there just recently against aj and try

660
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: his best and got knocked out. But he's always been

661
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: a dangerous threat. He's never, though, despite having a really

662
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: good career and a lot of wins against names you know,

663
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: have that one defining victory. It's one. It's a wonder

664
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: if this becomes that, and if this ends up lifting

665
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: him back into one more title opportunity at the very least,

666
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: Luke separate from Povetkin. This was a special ending to

667
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: a fight because it reminded you this dirty, filthy whore

668
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: of a sport that we love.

669
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: And I know that's harsh, but you know.

670
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: But boxing boxing can be full of shit at times,

671
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: but every once in a while, it reminds you why

672
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: we freaking love it. And this was an elite heavyweight

673
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: fight against two guys with something real at stake, and

674
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: Pavetkin down on the cards, just on corks a left

675
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: upper cut from you know, beyond the left field fence

676
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: and sends our guy, Dillian White to hell. Uh, that's spectacular.

677
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: That's that's why we watch. And I love seeing that.

678
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: I love what this can do for Pavekin because, let's

679
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: be honest, he might have retired after this had he lost.

680
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: He was on his way to be losing against a

681
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: very tough out in Dillon White, and he saves it

682
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: all with one punch. And if it just leads to

683
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: big money in a rematch with White with that same

684
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: stipulation at play, whatever, that's fine.

685
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: But this resurrects what has been a pretty darn good career,

686
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: never great, and this was a great win.

687
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: So to me, I go back to, you know, last

688
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: weekend when we had Jackson Marinez and old Roly Romero,

689
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: and we both thought that it was a wide, pretty

690
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: wide margin for Marinaz and then he somehow inexplicably loses.

691
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: Not not to rehash that debate, but it just goes

692
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 3: to show in boxing sometimes the promoter's favorite song, even

693
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: when they're not supposed to do they get kind of

694
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: the nod. And at forty years of age, we're preventing. Yes,

695
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: you know, you can be a lot older in the

696
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: heavyweight division, even the current version of it in boxing,

697
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: which is better than it has been in some time.

698
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: You know. Still that's not a great that's not an

699
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: advantageous place to be. But power is the last thing

700
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: to go. And to borrow from Teddy Atlas, it's with

701
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 3: in this case, thirty six minutes to make your life fair,

702
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: and he found a way to do it. Now you

703
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: could argue that the fairness would really be that, you know,

704
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: Dillion White, excuse me as I kicked my camera again.

705
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 3: Dillion White deserved the win here because he was the

706
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 3: better guy. But I guess we'll get another shot at

707
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: it if they exercise the immediate rematch. I'm only pointing out.

708
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: It was just such brutality. It was a reminder of

709
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 3: what can happen in the fight game to just especially

710
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 3: a heavyweight, where one punch can end it all in

711
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: an instant.

712
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 4: You cannot blink.

713
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 3: And for a guy to be on the canvas twice

714
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 3: and come back like that, even at forty years of age.

715
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 4: To me, what it showed is when you get a

716
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 4: little bit older.

717
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 3: Like that as an athlete, you don't have that same

718
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: kind of hunger anymore to sort of fight back out

719
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: of a bad spot. He had been trying to land

720
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: that punch a couple of times previously, and he finally

721
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: found a home for it. So between the sort of

722
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: promotional I'm not gonna call the machinations, but just the

723
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: promotional realities there in play with match Room and Dillian White,

724
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: between you know, sort of his age and this sort

725
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: of bit of a last stand and this is this

726
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: weird pandemic. To go in there and put it in

727
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: a thunderous performance like that, it was not only hugely

728
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: entertaining for the audience, but a reminder also heavyweight boxing

729
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: is still pretty good even when you're not talking about

730
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: the Big three, Big three and a half, if you

731
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: want to include Andy Ruiz. It is an exciting division

732
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: right now. It's a ton of fun. I can't wait

733
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: to see what they do next. So if you had

734
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: to bet BC, do you bet they do the White

735
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: rematch or do you bet he gets Tyson Fury next?

736
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: You know it probably more likely they do the rematch.

737
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: We'd have to see the specificities in the contract with

738
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: the WBC does to respond if they can still keep

739
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: the mandatory thing at stake in the rematch. Hopefully Povekin

740
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: gets paid, you know, big come back and do it again.

741
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: I just want to do that double shout out that

742
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: you did off the start to Eddie Hearn. Look, promoters

743
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: are what they are, Luke, and they always feel like,

744
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: you know, a little grimy in some ways. This guy

745
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,479
Speaker 1: just makes me want to give my wallet to him

746
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: and say, yeah, I'll buy that used car that's missing

747
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: three of the four tires. Because he may have won

748
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: the quarantine with that fight camp series four times in

749
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: his garden out back.

750
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: It looked spectacular. The fights were fun.

751
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: This card was the crown jewel of that with two

752
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: really good fights atop the marquee, and it was a

753
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: pay per view over in England. Rightfully so. But shout

754
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: out to the look and feel that they gave. Did

755
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: you did you hear that that epic thunderous music they

756
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: would play just as the fighters were getting announced.

757
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: I felt like it was like old school gladiators or something.

758
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: Was great.

759
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the sweet Caroline. I could have done

760
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: with that. But Dillion White's combination of Jaws and then

761
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: back in Black, I gotta tell you that's a hell

762
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: of a combo. He rocked that one. It was awesome.

763
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: And I gotta say also the fireworks in the backyard.

764
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: I mean, we always talk about the UFC sometimes. Yes,

765
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: they're in the apex and that has a certain distinguishable feel.

766
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: But when they're in a normal situation and they're in

767
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: Omaha one day and washed in DC the next and Hertford,

768
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: Connecticut the third, the arena never really looks any different

769
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: from the inside. The b roll outside always looks pretty different,

770
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: but never from the inside. Credits. I will give credits

771
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: to Eddie Hearn too. It was a little bit different.

772
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 3: They kept up good safety protocol, it seemed as well,

773
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 3: and it had somebody was trying to be ambitious and

774
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: do something different, and Eddie Hearn, I think, in general, succeeded.

775
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: Now one more note about this card, BC. I know

776
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 3: you were hot and bothered by it. I didn't like

777
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: it as much as you did, but I certainly give

778
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: it respect. Katie Taylor retains her advantage. You want to

779
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: say over Delphine person, I gotta say this about person.

780
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 3: I did not see their first five BC. I saw

781
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: this one. God, she is an animal. She does not

782
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: have nearly the technical ability of Katie Taylor, but she

783
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: doesn't well she does need it to win, but she

784
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 3: was all over her like white on Rice. She could

785
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: not be stopped. Why did you like this fight so much?

786
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 3: It was good, but you really seem to respond to it.

787
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: Well, look, you just named the missing part of that.

788
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: You were like, I didn't see their first one. I

789
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: didn't really care about this series until I saw their

790
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: first one, and I was ringside at Madison Square Garden

791
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: in April twenty nineteen, right before that Aj upset against

792
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: Andy Ruiz. This was a legitimate Fight of the Year

793
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: contender that time, because I try not to, you know,

794
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: on this show, I know we can kind of say

795
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: what we want, but I tried it to call, you know,

796
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: pro female athletes names like rabid raccoons. But that's the

797
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: fricking style Delphine pursum brings out there, just squares up,

798
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: walks into oncoming traffic and is like my backbone. My

799
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: fighting soul is grungier and more crazy than you are.

800
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna pour it all over you and Luke,

801
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: that's why I was excited about this because Katie Taylor,

802
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: along with Clorisia Shields, really is the face of women's boxing,

803
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: and she's a hero in Ireland and she has all

804
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: four lightweight titles, and there's a lot of talks about

805
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: making some really fun fights if we can get a

806
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: lot of these women to get closer in wait against

807
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: some of the names that we know. But she had

808
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: to get by this test and pursue and show us

809
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: that she really is of that ilk, that pound for

810
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: pound queen ilk against a woman who's just determined and

811
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: let's pour them all out for pursuing here, Luke. Her

812
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: commitment is, like you know, is like a war camp

813
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: survivor level. Like I mean, she just has a mindset

814
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: that I am going to get through no matter what.

815
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: And yet Katie Taylor made the adjustments this time around,

816
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: kept her at distance more, didn't get swallowed up from

817
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: the pressure. Yeah, she had that big knot on her forehead,

818
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: and she got banged around a little bit. But this

819
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: was both a great win for Taylor another performance wise,

820
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: you need to see this Belgian cop Delphine pursue every

821
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: time she fights She's gonna run through your TV screen

822
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: and shout out to women's boxing. This was a big fight.

823
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: This was the hardcore fight of the weekend, and holy crap,

824
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 1: did it deliver.

825
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 4: Luke.

826
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: I hope you'll allow yourself. Okay, suffrage is a real thing.

827
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: I hope you will allow yourself to appreciate women's boxing.

828
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 3: I like women's boxing. The only thing I don't like

829
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: is the two minute rounds. Surely this has to change.

830
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 3: This is not fair to them. I don't think it's

831
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: great the action. Granted, these two had good action because

832
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: they're talented, but to me, it feels like that's not

833
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 3: the right way with the women's sport to be conducted.

834
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 4: Are you with me on that?

835
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that. I agree with you.

836
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: And I didn't mean to paint you as a picture

837
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: of a guy who's saying, Hey, make a sandwich and

838
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: then I'll watch your fight.

839
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 3: Okay, No, no, no, I just missed the first one because

840
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: I was mostly covering MMA at the time. I just

841
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 3: didn't have a chance to really go back and well

842
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: take a look at it.

843
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: Thank you.

844
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 4: It's great.

845
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 3: Last thing I'll say about this because Jay wants us

846
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: to move on because Jay also hates women. Jay was like,

847
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: who do we get to honor kill when this is over.

848
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, Jay, we don't do that into sport. But

849
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: the point I wouldn't want to make here is did

850
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: you see their show of sportsmanship? Afterwards? They had the

851
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 3: scenario where they were standing six feet apart and they

852
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 3: were both answering questions from the press at the same time,

853
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 3: and Delphine was like, you know what was kind of

854
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: hard for me to like eat and maintain this weight class.

855
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: And I got to say, Katie Taylor, this is her

856
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 3: weight class. She belongs here, she's the best here, and

857
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: she deserved to win. And Katie looked almost not surprised,

858
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: but like honored that her opponent would say that. Listen,

859
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 3: we like the trash talk, we like the throwing of

860
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: the chairs, and if you're Jake Shields, the shot putting

861
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: of the starbuckses. But sometimes it's nice to see two

862
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: absolute animals also give the other, you know, the old

863
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: collegial salute at the same time.

864
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: I really, yeah, there's room for class. And by the way,

865
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: Pursue had a case in that first fight. I thought

866
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: she won, and she said it as much. But I

867
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: like that she said, Look in this rematch, it was

868
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: Katie's night, and you know I respect.

869
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 4: That, all right.

870
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: So we move on now to point number four, sort

871
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 3: of a broader one.

872
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 4: BC.

873
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 3: I'd like you to go first. I'm in a very

874
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: generous mood. BC, I want you to go first on

875
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: these So let's talk about it. UFC's heavyweight and light

876
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 3: heavyweight division is in flux, so DC appears to be out.

877
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: We haven't really had it confirmed confirm, but it certainly

878
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 3: appears that way. Gustafson has moved up, didn't go all

879
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: that great, but now John Jones, it appears, is going

880
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 3: to move up. Yet at the same time, we now

881
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 3: have a UFC Light heavyweight title fight. We're gonna have

882
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 3: Dominic Reyes take on Yambohovich on the I think that's

883
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 3: going to be the co main event to Ottus in

884
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: Costa UFC two fifty three. So here's the question, B

885
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 3: see in six months, how have these two divisions re

886
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: ordered themselves.

887
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: Monstrously? Think about this.

888
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: The heavyweight division just added a ton of celebrity by

889
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: bringing John Jones up there. And now that we have

890
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: two strong pillars in Stepe and Francis, and we don't

891
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 1: know whose future of the division it will be, and you.

892
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: Just drop John in there.

893
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: Look, as we talked about last week in the fallout

894
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: of that trilogy fight, you are going to make some

895
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: fun ass blockbuster fights. And just like in boxing, right,

896
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: it's more important in boxing for the heavyweight division to

897
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: matter from the standpoint of reaching the crossovers and the casuals. Look,

898
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: you give MMA and UFC credit, they haven't needed to

899
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: rely on that all the time. The light heavyweight division

900
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: for a long time was that sexy celebrity division. But

901
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: it's still you know, the whole idea. I know it's

902
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: corny of baddest man on the planet. You still want

903
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: your heavyweight division to be stocked with legitimate, historic guys.

904
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: We have that. But to flip the script on twol five,

905
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: we've been saying for a long time, John need to

906
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: go so that we can find out what we have.

907
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: It's kind of an exciting group that's been left behind.

908
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: Rayes plohowich is a fun fight. We got Maheta coming

909
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: back against against Grover uh Glover. Grove good God, Grover

910
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: uh Glover to Shaha and oh, by the way, Rumble.

911
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: Johnson just announced that he's gonna enter the Usada pool

912
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: and he has chosen two oh five over heavyweight as

913
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: his you know, first comeback division. Uh business picking up

914
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: in a big way, and uh, you know it.

915
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: Was John's choice.

916
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: I'm sure he got an opportunity to rematch Rayis. I'm

917
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: sure UFC would have preferred that he had done that

918
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: so that look, if he lost, he could really do

919
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: the job to Reis and annoint him as the next

920
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: big thing. But I'm a little bit more excited to

921
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: find out what we have here, Luke. Look, Rayes Plohowich's

922
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: tough fight. I gotta pick Reys in there. But if

923
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: Maheta can get through Grover, so to speak, I am

924
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: like licking my chops at the idea of what a

925
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: dam Res versus Thiago Santo's fight could look like for

926
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: future control of this division. Knowing full well that that

927
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: boogeyman rebel Johnson is lingering, this is good news for

928
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: UFC in both divisions across the board. And Luke, I've

929
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: been watching a little bit of tape. I feel like,

930
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: if he can bounce back, and it's not saying, you know,

931
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: it's automatic because of the leg injuries he suffered against

932
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: Bones Jones. But if Mahetaka come back, he is on

933
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: a level of confidence, savagery, and technique all coming together

934
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: at the right time in his mid to late thirties.

935
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 2: Dude, he might be the last man standing.

936
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: And you can't tell me deep in your heart, I

937
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: know you love some dom Reyis, but that guy takes souls.

938
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: That's his attempt. I went back and watched that Jones fight. Man,

939
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: that's some courageous shit in there. I mean, this guy's

940
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: for real. This ain't an empty cover at two o five.

941
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna get fun, no.

942
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 4: I mean, here's that.

943
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: There's two kinds of reorganization in divisions when people leave

944
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 3: or move up and wait or whatever you want to

945
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: call it, and fans typically only respond to one of them,

946
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: which is, let's say somebody exciting leaves a division, and

947
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: then who's up to the next one? And they're like,

948
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 3: Frankie Edgar this case, now we know immediately a contender.

949
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: Your mind begins to raise, well what about this one

950
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: versus that and that and that? You're like, what a

951
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 3: great immediate addition? Sometimes you get the short term immediate addition,

952
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 3: and John Jones provides that at least we think on

953
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 3: some level at two hundred and sixty five pounds, and

954
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: we don't really know exactly who he's gonna fight. I'm

955
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: being told that Francis is gonna get the next one.

956
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: That's not officially signed, but that's what his team has

957
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 3: been told. So we'll have to see how that plays out.

958
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: But there's a second kind of reorganization, which is what

959
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: happens when there's an absence. Think about Saint Pierre when

960
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 3: he first left welterweight. Now you had Hendrix there, and

961
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 3: you had Lawler there, and Lawler took over for a time.

962
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 3: My point being is it takes a second, not merely

963
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 3: for someone to claim the spot that he previously had,

964
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 3: but for the division to fully re order itself, because

965
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: then you got what you have now, which is Camaru.

966
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 3: And we'll see what happens with Tyron. But Colby is there,

967
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: and Jorge has ascended, and here comes Leon Edwards. On

968
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: some point, we'll see how that goes. My point being is,

969
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: if you look at light heavyweight, now, I agree with you.

970
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: I like that Tiago Santos glover to share a fight.

971
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: I don't know who's fighting Elmo or Rosita, but I

972
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 3: guess we'll find out on Sesame Street next season. I

973
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: also like this fight at UFC two to fifty three.

974
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 3: I like this fight a UFC two to fifty three

975
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 3: a lot, So to me, I'm with you. There's a

976
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 3: lot to enjoy Anthony Smith versus Alexander Rochester, rackets, which

977
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 3: we'll talk about in a second, But also have a

978
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 3: little patience. In six months to a year's time. You

979
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: have no idea what Yuripohatchka might end up doing, or

980
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 3: where Nikita Krilov might be, or there's so many Anthony

981
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: Rumbull Johnson a year ago. Raise your hand out there

982
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 3: if you're watching this, if you had heard of Vadem Nemkov,

983
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 3: the hardest of the hardcore can say yes, but most

984
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 3: people had. Most people still haven't seen that fight against

985
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: Ryan Bader, And this is my point. You just got

986
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 3: to give it a little bit of time.

987
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 4: So my.

988
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 3: Plea to fans out there is enjoy the short term

989
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 3: benefits of John Jones moving up to heavyweight, because then

990
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 3: you can enjoy that right away. On the other hand,

991
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: even if you don't like light heavyweight, and I think

992
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: you should give it six months to a year, I

993
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: guarantee you in that time, it's gonna be a lot

994
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 3: different than it is today, and there's gonna be new faces,

995
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: new rivalries, new matchups that are absolutely gonna capture your interest.

996
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: By the way style bender Michael up there, or you

997
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 3: might go fight John at heavyweight who knows a lot

998
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 3: of different pieces of the puzzle there.

999
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Luke, let me let me ask you this. We

1000
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: like doing stupid questions like this, Who's who? Who are

1001
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: the betting Who do you think the betting odds should

1002
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: be leaning towards in both divisions to be the last

1003
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: man standing in a year when when all these you know,

1004
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, six months to a year and a half, whatever,

1005
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, who are you favoring? Who are you feeling

1006
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: like will be the definitive champion? I mean, look, it

1007
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: doesn't always go that way where we find out who's

1008
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: the guy and then that guy defends three or four times.

1009
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes we just keep handing the belt off and if,

1010
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: if you're telling me right now, we end up with

1011
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: a dom Reis Mahetta trilogy or something like that could

1012
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 1: be really great for the division.

1013
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: Who do you think is coming out of both of them?

1014
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 4: Though?

1015
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: When it's all said and that's a tough one, I'm

1016
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: gonna say, and again predicting like who can win a

1017
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 3: fight this hard much less who's gonna be the title

1018
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: holder in a year. So I'll go with Don Reyes

1019
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 3: at two o five. But to me, that one is

1020
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say wide open. But that's a tough one.

1021
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 3: That's a very tough division to claim in John's absence

1022
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 3: and at heavyweight, say it, Say it, Luke, big Francis,

1023
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: say it, Big Francis.

1024
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Big Francis. That's a leap of faith.

1025
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 3: I am making a judgment there based on information we

1026
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: don't have.

1027
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: But I just like I be creeping up behind you

1028
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: in a bar one day, Luke, and I get that

1029
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 1: thing in there, we'll see. Because I'm sorry, I'm gonna

1030
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: say it. I said it before, I'll say it once more.

1031
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm favoring John Jones against every single heavyweight until I

1032
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: see differently.

1033
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: I think it's his.

1034
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to watch because I think it's

1035
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: his time.

1036
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 3: All right. So let's let's move on to our last

1037
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: and final point here for the five pieces of the Rundown,

1038
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: Let's talk about some of the weekend's best fights. We'll

1039
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: start here Anthony Smith back in action against Alexander Rakisch.

1040
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 3: We'll talk about some boxing fights too, but let's go

1041
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: to this one first very quickly. Be see, this is

1042
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: the main event for the card coming up on Saturday.

1043
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 3: I love this fight. You know, Anthony Smith, I think

1044
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: took a bad beating against Glover, But I talked to

1045
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: him last week. He says he's in. He does, he

1046
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 3: feels fine, He's been training hard. The check ups have

1047
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: medically have been okay. He had to get some teeth replaced.

1048
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 3: But you know, these guys are a bit of a

1049
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 3: different breed. He showed me in DC when we were

1050
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: having dinner he was gonna get He talked about this,

1051
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: I think on Aerial Show. But he had told me

1052
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: previously the same story, which was he was gonna get

1053
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: two fingers removed if he had to to fight some

1054
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: kind of infection, as long as he could keep the

1055
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 3: knuckle for punching. I mean, Anthony Smith is a different breed.

1056
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: Luckily it didn't come to that in any case. I

1057
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: think Anthony Smith is crazy talented. But he also admitted

1058
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 3: Alexander Rakitch, you know, physically is big for the weight class.

1059
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: He's athletic, he's a little bit unpolished and a little

1060
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 3: bit unrefined, and that cost him against Uzdamir, who Anthony

1061
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: Smith has a win over.

1062
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 4: But styles make fights.

1063
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: And if Anthony Smith gases or is not careful against

1064
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 3: the guy rackets, who will have five rounds to work.

1065
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: And I don't think is going to gass, He's going

1066
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 3: to be in a bit of a trouble. So I

1067
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 3: like the skill differential that Anthony Smith enjoys b see,

1068
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: but I also think that Rackitch who is you know

1069
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 3: that last fight, notwithstanding still very much the future of

1070
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 3: the two hundred and five pound division.

1071
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and that was as nice and soft of

1072
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: a way if you could have said it. And look,

1073
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: we all the things we love and that are favorites.

1074
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: I may or may not have an inappropriate relationship with

1075
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: Joanna's Instagram account, but you, Luke Thomas, you love three

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00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: things in life, city kickboxing, talking to coaches, and for

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00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: some reason, Anthony Smith. So I'm not I'm gonna be

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00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, much more blunt here, Luke sell Stock on him.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I think the miles have added up. I

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00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: think I don't think it's his time. Sell stock on him.

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00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: I think it's going to go in the other direction.

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00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: I like Rackitch big here, and I'm going to be

1083
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: interested to see it play out.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll be clear about this. I do love those things.

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00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 3: But I also liked Alexander Rakitch. I did a big

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00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 3: segment on my show on him as well, over a

1087
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 3: year ago. What did you drop there?

1088
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 4: Did you fall something?

1089
00:47:58,719 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 3: Something fall on the ground?

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00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? Over there, it's fine, Luke, it's all right.

1091
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, be sure to be texting during the show BC.

1092
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 3: I only quit my job over this. All right. We

1093
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 3: go now to Aris Londi Laura.

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Speaker 2: Did you retain producer credits in the CBS deal?

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00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: Lucas got your ass, Aris Londi Laura taking on Greg Vendetti,

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00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: Laura the Cuban kickboxing sensation who likes to stick and move.

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00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 3: Do you like his chances against mister Vendetti?

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00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? I like his chance is overwhelming. I mean, look,

1099
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: there's the chance that one of these days Aris Lendy

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00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: Laro in his late thirties will show up old. And

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00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: he's been in more wars than we've been used to.

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00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: You know, when you go to the Brian Castano fight,

1103
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: and certainly that incredible fight of the year with Jarrett Hurd,

1104
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: but he's too skilled. This will be a PBC on

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00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: Fox main event. And if you saw last week's Sean

1106
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: Porter fight against really a tough and in determined German

1107
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: and Sebastian Formela, it was one sided in the end.

1108
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: I think this is more of a showcase opportunity for

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00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: him to keep busy in this division, and there are

1110
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: some killers at one fifty four waiting.

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00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: This is one of the best.

1112
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: Divisions in boxing. PBC's got pretty much everyone who matters

1113
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: in that division under.

1114
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: Their hood, so we're gonna see some really good matchups.

1115
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 3: Where are you on the Jeff Horn Tim Zoo fight?

1116
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 4: Do you like this one?

1117
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: Oh?

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00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: I love this one way.

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00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: Look to be clear, that's a Wednesday fight at five

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Speaker 3: am on ESPN Plus. Give it its location.

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00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to the Plus for picking this up.

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00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a you know, breakfast at Wimbledon early

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Speaker 1: morning treat here. Look, I'm sorry. The Jeff Horns story's

1124
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: been too much fun to watch. He's like unintentionally funny

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00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. Luke, the whole Aussie boxing

1126
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: scene is always like, you know, they got two hot names.

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00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter the divisions, they just jam them together.

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00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: You know, we've seen Anthony Mundine, the old shape shifter,

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00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: fight from everywhere, it seems, from the tiny weight classes

1130
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: to heavyweight. There's a big fight down there, and it

1131
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: really has the potential to be ugly on one sided. Look,

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00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: Tim Zoo is a young puncher. He's the son of

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00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 1: the great Coasta Zoo.

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00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 2: The Hall of Famer, the savage knockout puncher.

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00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: But he ain't his poppy and he's gonna be moving

1136
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: up to a high level here against Jeff Hawn And

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00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: for all we can say about Jeff Horn, the Jim

1138
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: Teacher turned you know, unlikely Walter Wait champion when he

1139
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: upset Manny Pacio down under and by the way, go

1140
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: back and rewatch that it's not a robbery. I'm sorry,

1141
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: Jeff Horn like packing up a freaking savage and they

1142
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: and the referee let it so it wasn't a robbery.

1143
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: It really wasn't. Gorey watched that fight. Horn's you know,

1144
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: he's hung around and he can fight as high as middleweight,

1145
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: and he makes fun matches and yeah, he got stopped

1146
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: against that male dancer Michael Zarafa, but he came back

1147
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: and won the rematch in savage fashion. It's entertainment. It's

1148
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: fun when you get these Aussie Super Bowl fights, and

1149
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: this is a big one for bragging rights down there.

1150
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: But I think Jeff Horn's gonna wallop him and I

1151
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: can't wait to watch it.

1152
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: All Right, last, but not least also on ESPN. I

1153
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 3: believe this will be on Saturday US Ben Plus excuse me,

1154
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 3: seven thirty pm. Jose Ramirez Victor Postal Ramirez is gonna

1155
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 3: be defending his WBC and WBO Junior welterweight titles. You

1156
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 3: had this one circled on the list as well, BCE.

1157
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 2: Why yeah, this one snuck up on me. I didn't

1158
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 2: realize it was this weekend until this morning.

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00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: Look, he's one of the best fights of the entire

1160
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: summer that have been scheduled, canceled, rescheduled, in made that

1161
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: one forty division is red hot at the moment, and

1162
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: Jose Ramirez has two of the four titles. Yes, we

1163
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: want to see him do the full unification with Josh Taylor,

1164
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: but this has been a mandatory that's been lingering, and

1165
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: we know Victor Postal he stopped Lucas Matisse in the past,

1166
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: went all the way to the one forty title level

1167
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: to fight Terrence Crawford.

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Speaker 2: He is a tough out.

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00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: He seems to be reborn and refocused. And here's the

1170
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: deal about Jose Ramires. Luke great human, but for him

1171
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: to win these elite fights, which he keeps winning, he's

1172
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 1: got to go into action and go into war mode.

1173
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: He makes fun ass fights, postal, stands back tall as

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00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: a sniper.

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00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: This is going to be a fun event.

1176
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: It's no guarantee that the champ Rameras comes out with

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00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: the two belts here. This is gonna be.

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Speaker 3: A good one.

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00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 4: There you have it.

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00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll get to some more fights that have been

1181
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 3: announced when we do odds and ends, But for now,

1182
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 3: let's go to the portion of the show where you

1183
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: guys get to ask us questions. It's time for dms

1184
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 3: from dogs. There's the old donkey. Okay, BC, let's kind

1185
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: run through these a little bit here very quickly. If

1186
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 3: we can from at PD World ninety nine kind of

1187
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 3: stole their thunder. Does the big announcement mean we don't

1188
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 3: have to hear Luke say I have another job anymore?

1189
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 3: That is exactly what it means.

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00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: Did you or did you not text me before the

1191
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: show started. Oh, we gotta hurry and we got to

1192
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: get out at this hard time. Yeah, Luke, this is

1193
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: the last week of you pulling this crap on it.

1194
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: I had.

1195
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 3: I had somebody email me being like, dude, make more time.

1196
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: And I'm like, that's why the show used to be

1197
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: at twelve and now it's at eleven. Was so we

1198
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: can make more time. Like, I don't think folks understand

1199
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: if you have a radio show job, you cannot be late.

1200
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 3: There's no such thing as being late. The show starts

1201
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 3: at one. It's not like missing a flight you can

1202
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 3: just get.

1203
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 4: The next one.

1204
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 3: You gotta be on that one, and you have to

1205
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 3: sign in, and there has to be a show call

1206
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: ahead of time. There's all kinds of stuff that has

1207
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 3: I can't make any more time than we've made. Here's

1208
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 3: my question, we see, are we gonna go back to noon?

1209
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Look, there's a lot of fluid things,

1210
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 1: you know, still being discussed and talk about, and uh,

1211
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: but uh, I don't care when we start. I don't care.

1212
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: If it's nine in the morning, I don't care. You know,

1213
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: it's five o'clock somewhere in a loop let's set the

1214
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: time and let's bang right.

1215
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 3: It is the morning.

1216
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 4: It is, it is.

1217
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: It is on the West Coast, and we did noon

1218
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: just fine before.

1219
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: It's not on like the East Coast or Europe.

1220
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 3: For our Asian fan, morning combat is just a name.

1221
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 4: For Fox's sake.

1222
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 3: We're gonna be literal about this. I mean, we spelled

1223
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 3: combat with a K. I'm sure this is a very

1224
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 3: serious show.

1225
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, can you find some jiggle watch and

1226
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: get off our screen already please here, Jay, all.

1227
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 2: Right, all right?

1228
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 3: At Ilia yes seven, I didn't mean it.

1229
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: I was, I was, I was, Yeah, I didn't mean it.

1230
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: Don't get all.

1231
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 4: At Ilia seven four five?

1232
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 3: Is it too soon for Ferguson to fight Dustin this year,

1233
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 3: which Dana White said was probably next. Why isn't there

1234
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 3: a mandatory suspension for a longer period of time given

1235
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 3: the damage he took?

1236
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 4: There is BC. Here's how it works.

1237
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 3: If you and I fought, and we both fought, and

1238
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 3: we looked like Dustin Party and Dan Hooker at the end,

1239
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 3: probably Dan Hooker would have a longer medical suspension. But

1240
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 3: let's say they were equaling them out, Let's say six months.

1241
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah, no contact. Okay. There's two ways that works.

1242
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 3: One you can just let the six months go and

1243
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 3: then proceed to take a fight afterwards. Or you can

1244
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 3: go and get a medical check up prior to the

1245
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 3: end of that six months, and if the doctor gives

1246
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 3: you a clean bill of health in many cases, they

1247
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 3: will then just take off the rest of that time

1248
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 3: that's on the suspension. Now that's not a guarantee, but

1249
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 3: it is a let me say this, BC, I'm sure

1250
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 3: you've heard this. It's a very routine practice. That's why

1251
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 3: some of those suspensions are like nine months. You don't

1252
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 3: have to wait nine months if you get a clean

1253
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 3: bill of health. It's just sort of like a way

1254
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 3: to say, take some time, figure it out. If you

1255
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 3: can come back before then and a doctor says you're okay,

1256
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 3: we're not going to stand in the way.

1257
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. And even like, let's not remember by

1258
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: the time Michael Bisping lost the Middleway title the GSP

1259
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: and then fought uh Gastolum down in China like the

1260
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 1: next morning and got a doctor to clear him. That

1261
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: was a little bit sketchy. I don't think this would

1262
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: fall into that category. By the way, did you see date.

1263
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: By the way, Dana was uh, he was fired up

1264
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: Saturday night after the Fight Night card. He was taking

1265
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: shots at our buddy Scott Cocher at Oscar's reported cocaine habit.

1266
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1267
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 3: Nothing speaks to a person's character more than mocking another

1268
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 3: person's addiction.

1269
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: But he told he was framing the Cory Anderson exit

1270
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: situation as we both agreed he'd be more competitive over there.

1271
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he was really feeling it, but he

1272
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: did sort of seemed to nod his head.

1273
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: Yes that we're getting ferguson, poorier. Luke.

1274
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: Seriously, seriously, there's.

1275
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 2: A historic time for the lightweight division.

1276
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: Every single matchup with the elites is is bag o

1277
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: porn at the at the stag party, if you will,

1278
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: This might be better on paper, I mean, namely the

1279
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: boxing where MMA fights this under year, that has the

1280
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: potential to be better than that. Holy freaking crap, Luke.

1281
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, when you think about when you think about,

1282
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 3: what are some of the best non title MMA fights

1283
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 3: you can make? Right because Ada Sonia versus Costa, I mean,

1284
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 3: pants are around my ankles, You've got city kickboxing, and

1285
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 3: you got a great fight. Independent of that, I think

1286
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 3: we're both probably on the same level. But if you

1287
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 3: have to say, okay, take out those take out either

1288
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 3: of those considerations non title anyway, class pair them up.

1289
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 3: What's the best fight you could make. I don't know

1290
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 3: if Ferguson versus Poier is number one, but if it's not,

1291
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 3: it's number two. I mean, we're talking about an all

1292
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 3: time amazing non title affair between two absolute dogs getting

1293
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 3: after it. And I still think. I know it was

1294
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: a bad showing for Ferguson in his last fight, there's

1295
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 3: no denying it. But like Frankie Edgar, be very very

1296
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 3: careful about burying this guy too soon. I have made

1297
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 3: that mistake before, did it with Arlavsky, I did it

1298
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 3: with other fighters. Don't do it just yet. Paria also

1299
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 3: got people wanted to bury. Not a mistake you want

1300
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 3: to make. I love that fight.

1301
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: We should watch that together behind separate plexiglacks that only

1302
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 1: shows us from the waist up, Luke, because that's gonna

1303
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,479
Speaker 1: be a great fight.

1304
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 3: I mean, all right, I agree from at little Cameron

1305
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 3: with an extra n. What is Coveington's strategy Brian going

1306
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 3: into the Woodley fight? Is this a bad matchup for Woodley?

1307
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 3: And if so what would this potential loss mean for

1308
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 3: him going forward?

1309
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like, let's be we're always fully honest.

1310
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: He might be cashing himself out of this fight. And

1311
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: I say that as a Tyron Woodley super fan. I

1312
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: love the guy. I thought his welterweight title reign has

1313
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: gone very much underrated and sort of scoffed at into

1314
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: terms of what he actually accomplished. But I don't think

1315
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: the heart's there anymore to want to do this at

1316
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: this level and empty himself. I think he's willing to

1317
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 1: win fights if he comes out and he's the front

1318
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: runner and he controls it.

1319
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't think he's willing to empty himself anymore.

1320
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 1: That's why, after the way he lost that last fight

1321
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: to Gilbert Burns, I was like, you know, maybe you

1322
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: should maybe you should finish. Because he accomplished so much.

1323
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: This is a bad style matchup for him, because Covington's

1324
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: strategy should be do exactly to Woodley what Ustman did,

1325
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: Just tear at that freaking gas.

1326
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 2: Tank and cling to him for all five rounds.

1327
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: This is Woodley's opportunity here in a pure grudge match,

1328
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: in one we've wanted for a long time. If he's

1329
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: got anything left in that tank that he's willing to

1330
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: pour out and try to make one more run. Then

1331
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: he's got to come out there and fight his freaking

1332
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 1: ass off Luke, because Covington's gonna make him do that.

1333
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: But I don't. I don't have any confidence that he will.

1334
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: And I hate saying that. And that's nothing against his manhood,

1335
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: there's nothing against anything. It's just look at the recent

1336
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: track record is a bad style matchup.

1337
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 3: I mean, he hasn't just lost ten rounds straight. He's

1338
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 3: lost him badly. Now, not everyone was a ten eight,

1339
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 3: but there was a couple of ten eights mixed in

1340
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 3: there and he and the other part about it is

1341
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 3: people are doing things to him that they didn't do before,

1342
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 3: like taking him down and holding him down or you know,

1343
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 3: slicing up his face in ways like Tyron Woodley was

1344
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 3: never the guy who would suffer those particular kinds of

1345
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 3: scenarios and fights. I think this is a bad fight

1346
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 3: for him, and I would suspect he's going to lose.

1347
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 4: Now, let me be clear about something.

1348
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 3: I still think Woodley's got good athleticism and I think

1349
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 3: he's got big, big power. There are obviously scenarios where

1350
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 3: Woodley can win here, Let's be totally clear about that.

1351
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 3: But Covington at this stage in his career, for either

1352
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 3: of them, is a terrible matchup for Tyron Woodley. He's

1353
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 3: got volume for days, control positions, riding constantly on you.

1354
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 3: I actually think Covington has a pretty good chin, which

1355
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 3: we saw against Kamar Usman as well, so you know, Woodley,

1356
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 3: this is a winnable fight for him, but it's not

1357
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 3: very winnable. This is much more a chance for Covington,

1358
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 3: I think, to push Woodley for sure outside the top

1359
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 3: five and maybe into retirement altogether. It's not a great

1360
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 3: fight for him. I don't like it.

1361
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 4: I understand why he took it.

1362
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 3: To me. It feels like a go big or a

1363
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 3: go home moment, and that's the kind of competitor that

1364
00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 3: Tyron Woodley is. But from the outside looking in, I

1365
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 3: think it's a mistake at Terrence underscore kroonin Brian. Who

1366
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 3: is the let me let me answer this one. Who

1367
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 3: is the highest ranked fighter at the moment that Kamzat

1368
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 3: Chimayev could beat in his next fight hypothetically and do

1369
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 3: you think he will be championed by the end of

1370
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, Can we please pump the brakes.

1371
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 2: Even I yeah, we gotta pump the break.

1372
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, I did.

1373
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 3: I dissected on this guy because I thought what he

1374
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 3: did at Fight Island was special.

1375
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 4: How could you not say was special?

1376
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 3: Ten days, two weight classes, two opponents could land one

1377
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 3: punch on him. Okay, but the guys who were he

1378
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 3: was fighting, they're talented, but they are far from the

1379
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 3: elite of either weight class that he was in. It

1380
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 3: is not a fair representation of what he will face

1381
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 3: when he goes up the food chain.

1382
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 4: How will he do against those guys?

1383
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 3: I have no idea, so I'm not declaring to you

1384
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 3: he doesn't have tidle futures in his days ahead. I

1385
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 3: don't know that he does or that he doesn't, because

1386
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 3: we simply do not have enough information to make a

1387
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 3: call other than to say he's young, he's exciting, he's

1388
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 3: got a great game, he's talented and aggressive. He probably

1389
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 3: can go far. But these are just generalities until the

1390
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 3: specifics get filled in. There is way too much hype

1391
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 3: around him too early. John Jones had hype around him

1392
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 3: early because he was beating established guys who were fairly

1393
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 3: high level at the time, Andre Goosmo, Stefan Bonner, jaco'brien

1394
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 3: and he they weren't even close. That is totally different

1395
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 3: than what COM's ot Chremaiah has done to this point.

1396
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I want to find out all these answers.

1397
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I have him fight Gunnar Nelson tomorrow.

1398
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: I remember that name. I mean, come on, put him

1399
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: in there, put him in there with some live bodies.

1400
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: I can no longer do this because, Luke, you know me,

1401
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: I get I'm a sucker to flashy packaging. You can

1402
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: take a product that I don't even like and put

1403
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: it in like bright orange wrapping paper, and I'll buy it.

1404
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: I don't care. You know, you don't have to write

1405
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: new flavor on it. I just bought a bright orange car, Luke, Okay,

1406
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a sucker for that. Okay, I thought

1407
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: Maria Aggapova was gonna be your next to champion. You

1408
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: gotta find out what's in the what's in the tank

1409
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: and the backbone and the ustments in all of those things.

1410
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 2: I like the spirit of the.

1411
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: Question, though style wise, it seems like he's gonna be

1412
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: able to take a lot of people down in an

1413
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: attempt to smash them at least, but uh, you know,

1414
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: a lot many have guessed in attempting to do that, Luke, many.

1415
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 3: All right, And last but not least, Brian from at

1416
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 3: Kevin underscore, Michael underscore Kelly, what is your favorite work

1417
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 3: of literature?

1418
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: Work?

1419
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: Is this what we're doing here?

1420
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 3: Work?

1421
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: Does that mean that means book?

1422
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 2: Right, Luke?

1423
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 4: Not necessarily could be a play, right Shakespeare?

1424
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm really not all that cultured, Luke.

1425
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 3: You don't have a favorite book you've read? It's fiction, big.

1426
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 2: Big, old school, great Gatsby fan.

1427
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 4: Alright, that's fine, that's good.

1428
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: They're wrong with that, Oh, Kyle, you know like I mean,

1429
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: I liked, Yeah, I like the notice. I'm going to

1430
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: name all mandated junior and senior year of high school

1431
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: book readings, like Hey, Catcher in the Rye was great.

1432
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 2: But no, Luke, We've had.

1433
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: This discussion before, and I don't think it's impossible to

1434
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: gauge that by knowing my personality that I'm not an

1435
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: avid reader. I try to be, but I would say,

1436
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: you know, eighty percent of the books I've read as

1437
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: an adult have been athlete and celebrity biographies.

1438
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: Does that make me a bad person?

1439
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 3: Luke?

1440
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I read like five hundred words on Vince Lobardi

1441
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: was a great book, all right. I love that book

1442
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: on on Jordan's failed run in.

1443
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 4: Five hundred words. Five hundred words is like an essay.

1444
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, maybe five million.

1445
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 2: I don't know whatever. I'm not well educated.

1446
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for me, if you look at the

1447
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 3: books behind me, the overwhelming majority of them are nonfiction.

1448
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 3: I'm like you, I don't read a lot of fiction.

1449
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 3: I have nothing against it, but I just I feel like,

1450
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 3: to me, to me, the natural world we live in

1451
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 3: is so fascinating and I want to understand it, and

1452
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 3: which is NSSA. You can't find it that way through fiction,

1453
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 3: But I prefer the nonfiction mode of trying to understand

1454
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 3: the world in which we live. That to me is very,

1455
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 3: very entertaining.

1456
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm not really trying to understand much, Luke. You know

1457
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: I like self help books. You know, I like to

1458
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: improve myself.

1459
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 3: But that's a lot of that is just junk science.

1460
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 3: And I think you know that in terms of.

1461
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: Well, look, yeah, but sometimes junk science is the piece

1462
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: of meat you need to chew on to get through

1463
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: the day. Luke.

1464
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 2: Okay, I've chewed on I've chewed on a few.

1465
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 3: You know, as a day drinker, I can't hate on that.

1466
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 3: I think that's true for works of literature. I'm gonna

1467
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 3: go with Book Sounding the Fury William Faulkner. And if

1468
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 3: I had to pick a favorite, uh, like, do you

1469
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 3: have a favorite Shakespeare play?

1470
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 4: BC?

1471
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: Uh?

1472
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1473
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: It was a big what do you call it?

1474
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 2: Uh?

1475
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: The guy with the guy Uh yeah, Shylock. He was

1476
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: trying to take people's flesh and trying to get his

1477
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: money back. Merchant of Venice. It was, you know, it

1478
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: was it was. It was a gripping portrayal of uh yeah.

1479
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 3: It Shakra that the guy who has weird banking conspiracy theories.

1480
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 3: The first character he goes to is Shylock. Okay, I'll

1481
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 3: say this for me.

1482
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 4: Uh for movie.

1483
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 3: We went over this with the Japanese one, which is

1484
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 3: that uh curacasas Ran, which is based on King Lear. Also,

1485
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 3: Othello is a great play, and I will go with that.

1486
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 3: Timmy and the shrewsper Good who was.

1487
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: The guy who couldn't make decisions?

1488
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: Luke again, who is the Shakespearean character who had trouble

1489
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: making decisions?

1490
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 4: I'm not sure who you're referring to.

1491
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: I've read that book too, and I saw the movies

1492
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: and it was good. Look, Jay, can you chime in here?

1493
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: What's the guy's name? What the frick is that guy's name?

1494
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 4: Okay, trouble making decisions?

1495
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm with you.

1496
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 3: I I haven't read much since high school.

1497
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: Boobs and Boxers on the show, and now we're getting

1498
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: into Shakespeare.

1499
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 3: All right, well, speak of that. Speaking of that transition, BC,

1500
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 3: it is time when we look at boobs and boxers. Uh,

1501
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 3: take it away, my friend.

1502
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we do on this show.

1503
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: What we do is we scour the globe for the

1504
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: highs and lows, the in between, the good, bad and

1505
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: the ugly, and combat sports and beyond. Hopefully I think

1506
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: I could find that play. I know you have another job, Luke,

1507
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: Maybe not for this week's Yeah, Macbeth, I don't know

1508
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: whatever I mean, do I care?

1509
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't care. You know what I care about?

1510
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: Luke fun video? I was, Okay, let's do it. It's

1511
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: have you seen this shit? Let's start it off from

1512
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: over the weekend, Luke huge upset in UFC seven Vegas

1513
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: Fight Night. How about Shanna Dobson. She was the same

1514
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: level of a betting underdog against Maria Agapava that Holly

1515
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: Holme was against Ronda Rousey and Luke was a freaking

1516
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: disastrous performance from the Kazakh slugger here in a Gopava.

1517
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what Dobson from Washington, DC, so shouts

1518
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 3: to her. She was three and four heading into this contest.

1519
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 3: She evened it up. Agapava has talent, but she fights

1520
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 3: just like like there's a contest where if you don't

1521
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 3: end it within the first sixty seconds, you lose all

1522
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 3: your money. So she has no pace that is at all.

1523
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm nervous here from her because when she came out

1524
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: with those two UFC victories right away at me, she

1525
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: was spectacular and exciting and she was like, you know,

1526
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: Yoanna on steroids basically in some ways I thought she

1527
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: almost emptied the take dancing during the introductions and I

1528
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: was getting some Michelle Peneda vibes.

1529
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 2: And then to see her just fight so for broke

1530
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 2: and just.

1531
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: Go for it.

1532
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 2: You can't sustain that.

1533
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure she thought she was getting an easy knockout.

1534
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: She was like, what like plus six fifty or I'm sorry,

1535
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: minus six fifty, minus eight something ridiculous here as the

1536
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: biggest betting favorite on the card. But you know this

1537
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: is why they they have the fights, Luke. You know,

1538
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: hopefully she can bounce back from this because.

1539
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 3: Just a quick hit wasn't even quick reminder about the

1540
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 3: coms out chamaiav conversation. There's a rule that all fans

1541
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 3: should remember about UFC. Doesn't matter who you are. Eventually

1542
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 3: someone in this organization is going to put it on you.

1543
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 3: And when they do, how do you respond. We saw

1544
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 3: how Agappova responded. It's going to happen to Chamayav. We've

1545
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 3: not seen how he responds to that, so it makes

1546
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 3: it a big unknown.

1547
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: Well, Luke, I wanted to almost say that step A

1548
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: didn't win this fight, dse he lost it because uh,

1549
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: you know, Seanna Dobson credit for winning it. But dude,

1550
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: Abacha Goppova like fell apart, like she just emptied, like

1551
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: the gas tank was leaking all over the floor. I've

1552
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: never seen someone lose because of stamina that disastrously. We've

1553
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: seen people fade, fall apart, fall to the ground, get

1554
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: choked out. Luke, she was done. She was just done.

1555
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 2: I mean like that. That's a tough loss, Luke.

1556
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Dobson hung on, didn't get overwhelmed, took it

1557
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 3: to the ground when she needed to, and was able

1558
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 3: to score sweeps and reversals that made a big difference.

1559
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, shout out to that.

1560
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: Let's roll on here, Alexander povekn as we mentioned with

1561
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: that giant knockout. Did you see the heroes welcome he

1562
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 1: got back in his Russian hometown, Luke. One day when

1563
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: I arrived somewhere, I want this. Look at this cape

1564
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: they're putting on them. Do they do this in Columbia?

1565
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 3: Is this gonna be my first day at CBS?

1566
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, here's your producer credits. Thank you for joining us.

1567
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: Yes, all right.

1568
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 3: He couldn't even get off the subway before they were

1569
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 3: putting that on him.

1570
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, there's a full old school like event

1571
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: going on here. This is great. He looks like the

1572
01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: dark Lord or something right there.

1573
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 4: What is he wearing? I don't know. Senator Palpatine, though,

1574
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 4: has to get to the meetings.

1575
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 1: I guess he's got to get to the Senate briefing

1576
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: with Remember when they made jar Jarra damn, you know,

1577
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: political member.

1578
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 3: Come on, no, I know the Gungans. I mean, the

1579
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 3: Gungans could not have been exterminated quicker.

1580
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 2: They live under the water in like the secret area.

1581
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 3: Well, let's dump all of our trash in the water then,

1582
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 3: because they need to go.

1583
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, all right, Hey, let's roll on. How

1584
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: you wanted?

1585
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 2: Just a vicious and random kickboxing ko from over the weekend?

1586
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: Look have that?

1587
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 3: Wow?

1588
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't even know their names.

1589
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:35,879
Speaker 4: Oh he did the testifying too.

1590
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah he did.

1591
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 2: They go up in a suitcase. Yeah, oh man, that

1592
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: is yep.

1593
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 3: I think underneath that's one of those that's one of

1594
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 3: those losses where like the kick to the face is

1595
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 3: obviously terrible and the thing that caused all the problems,

1596
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 3: but if you actually I bet later on like he

1597
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 3: busted his head open, splitting it on his knee, Like

1598
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 3: the worst.

1599
01:09:58,280 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 4: Damage came from that.

1600
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:06,480
Speaker 3: You know. It's like Arona Aronau excuse me, A Rampage

1601
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 3: had that cut when he slammed Rona, And it was

1602
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 3: because Corona's head bounced off the canvas and slammed back

1603
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 3: into his So his face was all bloody when he

1604
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 3: stood up, But it wasn't from anything else. It was

1605
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 3: just from Arona going limb.

1606
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 2: Yikes.

1607
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,799
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, it's gonna be hard to keep Webscream

1608
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: off the show. I just want to tell you, Luke,

1609
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 1: he has built up a bullpen of just content for us.

1610
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: You saw his great movie posters before and invoking Danny

1611
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 1: DeVito and Arnold Swarzenegger with Junior. Hey, how about Twins?

1612
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 1: You want some Twins from Christos Christophoros. Let's hit it, Jay,

1613
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: This guy's on fire, Luke, I'm sorry, you know her combat?

1614
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 3: That is so good. Oh, that is so good. That's

1615
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 3: the that's the movie Twins, basically for folks who are

1616
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 3: not old and ancient and saggy balled like me and Brian.

1617
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: Why do I get to be? Uh?

1618
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to be Dan DeVito?

1619
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: That's great?

1620
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 2: All right? Hey, hey, this is not the only fan

1621
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 2: artwork from this week. A guy named Scott Marshall.

1622
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 1: He's an artist on Instagram at Onya Brie. I don't

1623
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: know if the hell that means. This was last year

1624
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: someone shouted out to me. Check out this little piece

1625
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 1: of artwork invoking what would happen if you and I

1626
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,919
Speaker 1: in the bar got into a little scuffle?

1627
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I like how, I like how they lightened

1628
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 3: up Francis and uh overim for us?

1629
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is this is this white face or white chest?

1630
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1631
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, whitewashing.

1632
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:37,799
Speaker 4: I don't know what this is washing?

1633
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 3: All right?

1634
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. I guess that's how he thinks a fight

1635
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,560
Speaker 1: between us would go, Luke. But that's obviously not full disclosure.

1636
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: This one might be more like it of how a

1637
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: fight between you and I would go, because that's slaptastic, Luke.

1638
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 2: Check these guys out.

1639
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 4: What are they doing?

1640
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 1: I get to be the guy in the green shorts,

1641
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much. I like his movement, I

1642
01:11:59,360 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: like his rhythm.

1643
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:01,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, slap that shit.

1644
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 4: Luke, so they can slap each other.

1645
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 1: I hope this is how this country settles, like local grievances, Yo.

1646
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,719
Speaker 3: Have you seen that tradition in like parts of Peru?

1647
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 3: Maybe Bolivia, but I think it's Peru where like once

1648
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 3: a year, if you have a grievance with somebody, you

1649
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 3: can fight them in the town square and then like

1650
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 3: all the beef is squashed after that.

1651
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 4: You've seen that.

1652
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 3: I forget what it's called, but has got this whole

1653
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 3: religious sort of overtone to it. That's the way to

1654
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,719
Speaker 3: do it, man. I'm not saying you should bring back duels,

1655
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 3: but open hand slapping.

1656
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 4: You'll be all right, you.

1657
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: Know, Luke, I'll slap the shit out of you. Okay,

1658
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: that limits your abilities to win a fight against me.

1659
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: If we're going just straight slaps, all.

1660
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 4: Right, stocked and slap in the middle of a fistfight.

1661
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 1: Well two nine, you're asked, okay, thank you. Hey, let's

1662
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: roll on here spring break. It's drunk chick our Luke,

1663
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 1: what is this called? I used to do this drill

1664
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: in youth football. But do they do this with bikini

1665
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: chicks on the beach?

1666
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 2: What's going on here?

1667
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:00,560
Speaker 3: I did this in youth football too. The trick is

1668
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 3: you got to be the first. We saw this with

1669
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 3: the dude who challenged his dad.

1670
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 4: Remember that.

1671
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, the trick is look here, big Country gets

1672
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 3: up first. Bah Oh, it's a.

1673
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 1: Celebration, Luke. I want to do one thing in my

1674
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: life where people are willing to celebrate this hard and

1675
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: aggressively in response to it.

1676
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 4: Is this going to be my first day at CBS?

1677
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 4: We do this to each other.

1678
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 3: I think that was you.

1679
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: On Twitter last night, Luke. I've never seen people like

1680
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: love you so much.

1681
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I was very surprised.

1682
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 4: I was.

1683
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it. You know, I've never had I've

1684
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 3: never had a crowd cheer for me like this either.

1685
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 3: But look, that's a hell of a shot, dude. She

1686
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 3: actually forces a fumble here. No less, it's pretty amazing.

1687
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, sign her up here, she could play DM.

1688
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: That's incredible. All right, let's roll on here, Luke. Check

1689
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:45,879
Speaker 1: out this beer pong teamwork here. Is this merely friendly

1690
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: work between gentlemen or is there some backroom benefits going on?

1691
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: Would you do this with members of the show malka

1692
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: staff who put the show together.

1693
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 3: So in a pre COVID world, when I was in

1694
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 3: a fraternity and we played beer pong, you know, I've

1695
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 3: done horrendous things like this that are totally the transmission

1696
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 3: of communicable diseases. I cannot hate on these gentlemen. In

1697
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 3: a post COVID era. This is you know, you know,

1698
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 3: he's not the smartest people in the world, but I mean, is.

1699
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: That impressively I don't know. It's hard to argue about

1700
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,799
Speaker 1: germs when we came up through a society where you're

1701
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: passing the duchy to the left side to a lot

1702
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: of people in a crowded room lose.

1703
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 3: This is just one of those ideas that drunk white

1704
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 3: guys get that they think is like, you know, it's like, well,

1705
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 3: as long as we're not gay, we can totally do this. Meanwhile,

1706
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 3: this is just like kissing the other guy basically, you

1707
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

1708
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: That's why tip to tip is not only COVID conscious,

1709
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: it's you know, you know what.

1710
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying, you can do that with a we can

1711
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 3: do that. You know, like I said, Trojan, you know,

1712
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 3: protect yourself at all times. BC's I'm wearing three condoms

1713
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 3: right now, just so that's clear.

1714
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. Hey, Luke, let's go on this

1715
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: week in bad parenting, shout out to that state, Texas.

1716
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: Forever here it was grandpa's turned to drive the kids

1717
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: around and look, I mean this was this was standard

1718
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: issue for like nineteen eighty four.

1719
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember being that young, Luke,

1720
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 2: but you can't do this nowadays.

1721
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 3: I remember I remember riding in the back of a

1722
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 3: pickup truck not thinking twice about it, and then years

1723
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 3: later as an adult, everyone's like, dude, you can't do that,

1724
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I.

1725
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 4: Legitimately did not know it. Was illegal.

1726
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 3: I had no clue this is I bet those kids

1727
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 3: are like, dude, Grandpa is the best.

1728
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: Oh, it's the best. That is great.

1729
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, coming to look growing up. Seriously, I tell

1730
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: my kids this all the time. They don't believe me.

1731
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: My grandparents would pull all the seats out of their

1732
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: van and we'd just get to run wild back there.

1733
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: We'd wrestle, we'd we'd watch, you know, we'd do everything.

1734
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: I mean, uh yeah, you can't. You can't do that nowadays.

1735
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's keep the train moving here. Uh hey, hey, Luke,

1736
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: uh sleep down in the fire. This was supposed to

1737
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: be some X Games shit, Luke. But uh yeah, look

1738
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 1: at that. That's I mean, that's what you get, Luke. Okay,

1739
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: that's not a proper setup.

1740
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 3: You know what, mister Nettgator here didn't quite have enough

1741
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,080
Speaker 3: speed built up, did he.

1742
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: I mean, look, that's I don't see how that ends anyway.

1743
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 2: So also just be in charred.

1744
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 3: Also, why is his launch ramp a U haul cardboard box?

1745
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:13,600
Speaker 1: They may have planned this, Luke, we have to be

1746
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: honest about that.

1747
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 3: Who knows? Here an dude drunk drunk white guys endlessly

1748
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 3: entertaining for their self owns.

1749
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: Luke shout out to that great website show dot store

1750
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: dot com where you can wear the ultra comfortable MK

1751
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 1: gear and our people are wearing it. Look at this guy,

1752
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: Peter ray Naga at Underscore Ray twenty four on Instagram,

1753
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 1: looking good there in the morning combat winter hat.

1754
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 3: What is the shirt he's wearing? Is that Luca could

1755
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 3: be looks like someone was swollen balls. What is that?

1756
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, But he's COVID conscious, so he's he's

1757
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: acceptable in the Thomas house and he looks good in

1758
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: the dead of summer in that winter cap. Let's roll

1759
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon Jay is saying on the T shirt there

1760
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 1: the Orlando Magic Guard. Maybe I don't know. I don't

1761
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 1: know anymore Macbeth Shakespeare. I don't know, all right, Hey,

1762
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: shout out to us at Bill and Jen's RV adventure

1763
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: on Instagram. They went on vacation in Lake Tahoe and

1764
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 1: check out Bill wear the T shirt right there.

1765
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 2: Love it.

1766
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 3: Look at this old bastard, cool as a cucumber. Look

1767
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 3: at this scene where he's at too.

1768
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: You know, his wife's like, why are you?

1769
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 3: What is that?

1770
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 2: What is that show?

1771
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 4: What is it?

1772
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I come here for the m m

1773
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: A breakdowns. Really he comes for the dick joke. So

1774
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: shout out to Bill. They're real big fan of him.

1775
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: Thank you very much.

1776
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 4: Here great.

1777
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: Also, we got a listener named Mike Bubble of Oregon

1778
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: at Mt Buuble on Twitter. He went down to Hissetta

1779
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 1: Beach in his native state and went distance tip on

1780
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: tip there in the MK sweatshirt.

1781
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 3: Shout out that is great.

1782
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: Look at this.

1783
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:53,719
Speaker 4: Where, by the way, where is Hissetta Beach?

1784
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,759
Speaker 1: I think it's in Oregon. I didn't do much research

1785
01:17:56,840 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: on it, but that's what you'red incredibly comfortable.

1786
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 2: Well, cannot get it back for my wife. She stole it. Okay,

1787
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 2: it is what it is.

1788
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not put mine on yet, but I'm looking

1789
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,480
Speaker 3: forward for the weather to turn. That is fantastic.

1790
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: Yup, yup.

1791
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: Thank you by the way, Mike Bubble for keeping the

1792
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: tip on tip tradition alive. And Luke, we started something

1793
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: here right with those with those Slovakian kickboxers. We didn't

1794
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,440
Speaker 1: know what we started, but it's taken off like wildfire.

1795
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: It's gone. Hollywood.

1796
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 2: Have you seen actor Shilah Bof's ig lately?

1797
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: Luke, look at this. This looks like a senior picture

1798
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: glamour shot in an alley going full.

1799
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 2: On tip on tip.

1800
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 4: His new movie sucks. Did you see it?

1801
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 3: Which one is that tax collector?

1802
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 2: I have not seen it.

1803
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 4: No, you've missed nothing.

1804
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: Actually, I don't think I've seen any of his stuff

1805
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 1: since even Stevens.

1806
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 2: So who am I to talk? I did see Arkansas

1807
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 2: on Prime? Did you watch that?

1808
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 4: No? Was it good?

1809
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 1: Vince Vaughan?

1810
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, about the drug trade?

1811
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah it was.

1812
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 4: It was good.

1813
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: It was very good, very good. I think you should

1814
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 1: watch that. Okay, let's keep it going here. Check out

1815
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: these bros wind mill in on each other tip on

1816
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 1: tip style, Luke, I'll ask you again. Oh sorry, Oscar

1817
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: Mayer first latest commercial on hot dogs, Luke. They must

1818
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: be watching this show. Can we get this sponsored?

1819
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 4: You know what? Though?

1820
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 3: But they didn't quite tip it. They more like they're

1821
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 3: more like toasting.

1822
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's it's close, it's close on there.

1823
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: We have to analyze that.

1824
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 3: Oh wait, this is the weirdest bit that we do,

1825
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 3: you know, the touching Dick's bit. I don't know how

1826
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 3: I feel about it even to this day, but I

1827
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 3: quit my other jobs.

1828
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 4: So what are you gonna do?

1829
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's too late, Luke, You're you're in too deep, Okay.

1830
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: And when you got people out here sending us these videos.

1831
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 1: Check out these two grown men wind milling on each other, Luke,

1832
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 1: I think is what they call it? Uh, there's some

1833
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 1: tip on tip touching here. So I have to ask you,

1834
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: just like the the ping pong bit there on the

1835
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: beer pong? Is this just two male friends getting down

1836
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: or is there some benefits here?

1837
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 4: Are they fighting or just fat?

1838
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 2: I mean fucking fighting?

1839
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: It's all the same, Luke.

1840
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 2: Right, I can't I can't.

1841
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 1: Uh, I can't get down on this, Luke. All right?

1842
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: Living that is? That is?

1843
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great.

1844
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 3: That is certainly something's.

1845
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 1: There's many poorly lit bars in Middle America for a reason, Luke.

1846
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 2: Okay, shout out to Omaha, thank you rolling on here. Luke. Look,

1847
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: we know how much we both love the Chefchenko sisters.

1848
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: People flood my my dms with pictures of them. There's

1849
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 1: now people who have full channels dedicated to them. Have

1850
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 1: you been on at UFC Sisters KG lately? Luke?

1851
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 2: All it is is Chefchenko Sister art.

1852
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: And what do you think about this of the sisters

1853
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: as old school nineteen twenties gangsters.

1854
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 2: You got any movement?

1855
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 3: Well, so it's like a Bonnie and Bonnie more than

1856
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 3: like a Bonnie and Clyde kind of thing.

1857
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think I think Antonino is playing Clyde

1858
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: fairly well.

1859
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 3: To me, it's I like what Valentina's got rocking there

1860
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 3: with the Tommy gun, but I don't know about the

1861
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 3: rest of it.

1862
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, do you have a favorite between the two, Luke,

1863
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 1: Because let's be honest, you Loveina fiery South American women,

1864
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 1: and although they're Kyrgyzstan, they are accepted as full on

1865
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 1: citizens in Peru.

1866
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,719
Speaker 3: I know so and and, but Valentino is the dancing champions,

1867
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna go with her.

1868
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,719
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I switched by the day. I won't

1869
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: show you any other pictures on there, Luke, because they

1870
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 1: get a little bit racy. But I do have live

1871
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: reaction video of everyone who watches this show as they

1872
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: pause this to jump on the UFC sister's account. Can

1873
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: we throw to that, please? Jay?

1874
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 4: This will also be my first day at CBS.

1875
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm guessing you and you're last, all right?

1876
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 3: Uh?

1877
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:45,600
Speaker 1: Jay, we are Luke we talked about webscreen before he

1878
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: pointed this picture out to me, did you see Democratic

1879
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: National Convention producer and director Glenn Weiss the Emmys show?

1880
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 3: Yes, this dude ran the DNC from this plastic table

1881
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 3: in his living room. Actually a pretty good job.

1882
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 1: Notice shorts and no socks in. What Webscream said to

1883
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: me was that this is essentially Jay's dream peak form, Jay,

1884
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,600
Speaker 1: how similar is your aircraft carrier to this?

1885
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 3: Look at Jay's Mary Seas asked feet as he drives

1886
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 3: his balls on the heat of the.

1887
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: Wear pants By any chance, Jay, Yeah, I am, I am,

1888
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 1: indeed I am mad.

1889
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 3: But hey, but we're basically the same.

1890
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 1: Because you know, your higher at CBS was was in

1891
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: some ways facilitated by Jay's great work and taking MK

1892
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, pandemic uh in our house and keeping the

1893
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: quality the same.

1894
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 3: Uh.

1895
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: Do you think Jay could pull off the DNC or

1896
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: or were they inspired? Was Glenn Weiss inspired by Jason Aaron?

1897
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 3: That sounds more about Jay can't even pull off sending

1898
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 3: us audio that we can hear other than his voice,

1899
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 3: which to me does not feel coincidental. That is very fair.

1900
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: Well, it's i'm o hair in that guy but other

1901
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 1: than that, it's about the same. Well, hey, back to

1902
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 1: web Screen for a second, Luke, you remember this album cover, right,

1903
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 1: how seminal in your life was this little piece of

1904
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: business right?

1905
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 3: That's that is the that was one of the most

1906
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 3: important musical albums of my life. Vulgar display of power

1907
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 3: at I Need Too is just you know, beyond beyond

1908
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 3: compare well.

1909
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 1: Our friend Webscreen wanted to put a little bit of

1910
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 1: an MK twist on that to celebrate your You're hiring

1911
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: this week and uh, there we go.

1912
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 3: Dude, how has Showtime not hired this guy yet?

1913
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 4: What are we doing?

1914
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 2: Look, he's making a strong case.

1915
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: He's either he's either gonna get hired or you're gonna

1916
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 1: end up in a tub in an empty apartment missing

1917
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: a keep organ like a lady.

1918
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 3: You know what's funny, You know what's funny. Before the

1919
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 3: pandemic hit, we actually did a photo shoot in studio

1920
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 3: and this is actually that is my fist. That is

1921
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 3: a photo we took. I don't think we meant to

1922
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 3: use it for any kind of pan terror related photo shopping,

1923
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 3: but I'll be damned it works quite well.

1924
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 2: It really does.

1925
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: Let's close with this, Luke, We've long had a saying

1926
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:15,799
Speaker 1: on this show, in any podcast.

1927
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 2: I'm a part of that. You just don't tease the

1928
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 2: bag or you're gonna get the mess.

1929
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 4: Luke.

1930
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Speaker 1: Check out this adult male.

1931
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you've had dates end like this,

1932
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Speaker 2: Luke in your life, but that's got a hurt.

1933
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Speaker 1: That's uh.

1934
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, why are you the way you are?

1935
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Speaker 1: Welcome to CBS, Luke. Great to have you.

1936
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Speaker 3: Okay, it's like, well, on this note of champagne Bucocky,

1937
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Speaker 3: welcome to the company, Luke.

1938
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Speaker 4: Oh okay, great.

1939
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: I did want to celebrate with a drink, Luke, I can't.

1940
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 1: I can't, you know, raise my Kevin Nash Koozi to

1941
01:24:55,800 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 1: you and tap it in real time. So yeah, all right, Luke, welcome.

1942
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 1: Have you seen any of that shit?

1943
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,759
Speaker 3: Yeah? All right, go send dick pics to BC's Instagram.

1944
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 3: With that in mind, BC, we'll wrap things up here

1945
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Speaker 3: with time for odds and ends.

1946
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Speaker 4: What do you got for us?

1947
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 3: On the odds and ends? Quickly?

1948
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Speaker 1: Last Saturday on Top Rank Boxing on ESPN, shout out

1949
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 1: to Joe Smith Junior with a big time light heavyweight win, Luke.

1950
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 2: He went in there against Elder Alvarez, the storm.

1951
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 1: If you remember the guy that sent Sergey Kovolev to

1952
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 1: hell with one punch and then lost that rematch, he

1953
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: was the former sort of it champion at one seventy five.

1954
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 1: If you don't know Joe Smith Junior, yeah, he's the

1955
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: guy who sent Old Bernard Hopkins through the ropes that time.

1956
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: But he's like still employed full time and like manual

1957
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:42,759
Speaker 1: labor and moonlighting as a light heavyweight. He made fun fights.

1958
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: He lost when he stepped up. But Luke, this is

1959
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,719
Speaker 1: a guy who's i think, finally taking the sports seriously.

1960
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 1: And he went in there against a legit guy and

1961
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 1: out boxed the hell out of him and stopped him

1962
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: late in eye opening performance. I think you one have

1963
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 1: to add Joe Smith Junior's name as a legitimate title

1964
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 1: contender at one seventy It took a few losses, it

1965
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: took many a long day at the stockyard, but he's here, Luke,

1966
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:07,799
Speaker 1: He's here to stay, so big.

1967
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 2: Win right there.

1968
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 1: Also, I did want to oh shout out that big

1969
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: signing for the PBC. I don't know if you saw this, Luke.

1970
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 1: You know Rugaru right, regis Progray.

1971
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's by the ones at one but by the

1972
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 3: Way who who is friends with Jose Aldo. His wife

1973
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 3: is Brazilian and loves MMA, trains in the gee in

1974
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 3: his free time. You want to talk about a boxer

1975
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 3: who is not a hater an Mma, Regis Progra is

1976
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 3: your guy?

1977
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, go watch his his absolute war for twelve rounds

1978
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 1: with Josh Taylor for those one forty titles. Last year,

1979
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 1: A great fighter was a promotional free agent left lou

1980
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 1: de Bella.

1981
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 2: He was circulating. He fought him his own a few

1982
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 2: times fall on ESPN.

1983
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: Well, he just got hooked up with PBC and we're

1984
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: gonna see him Luke October twenty fourth against Juan Araldez

1985
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 1: on the undercard of that Gervante take Davis Leo Santa

1986
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: Cruz pay per view, Showtime pay per view, and you

1987
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 1: want to talk about the matchups that can be made,

1988
01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: not just at one forty but should he move up

1989
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 1: to what we call the money division there at one

1990
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: forty seven. He's a Fight of the Year contender, winging

1991
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: to happen every time out. He gets in your face,

1992
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: aggressive style managed by some Hollywood elites like who Peter Berg,

1993
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 1: Marky Mark and at least one member of the Funky

1994
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 1: Bunch so big signing there.

1995
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 3: Can't wait to see him, so that's great. We should

1996
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 3: note there was a bunch of fights that were announced

1997
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 3: last week on the MMA side of things. You're Riyah

1998
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 3: Hall fighting Anderson Silva, which I don't fully understand why

1999
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 3: they made that fight, but okay, neither here nor there.

2000
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 3: I could go on and on, but the one that

2001
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,560
Speaker 3: I want to focus in on was Amanda Nunez is

2002
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 3: going to be back against Meghan Anderson at one hundred

2003
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 3: and forty five pounds.

2004
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:38,720
Speaker 4: Now.

2005
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 3: The UFC, I think Dana White said at the post

2006
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 3: by press conference on Saturday, they are going to stock

2007
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 3: up one forty five a little bit more than they

2008
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 3: have been, So that means that, you know, she'll have

2009
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 3: more to do than Amanda presumably if she wins, she'll

2010
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 3: have more to do than just sort of once a

2011
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 3: year or whenever they can just find someone. Folks were like, oh,

2012
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 3: this is a lamb being led to the slaughter, and

2013
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 3: certainly I would not really argue with that. I don't

2014
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 3: think it's fair enough to say that this is a

2015
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 3: very very competitive fight. I mean no disrespect to Megan,

2016
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 3: but we're talking about the goat here and the individual

2017
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 3: style matchups also aren't all that awesome for her. But

2018
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 3: here's the problem that I think folks need to at

2019
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 3: least there's a reality I should say folk should accept,

2020
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 3: which is, Listen, they didn't throw her right into a

2021
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 3: title fight meg and Anderson. They let her get a

2022
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 3: few fights into the UFC, and some of those didn't

2023
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 3: go the way they were supposed to do. But she

2024
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 3: is coming off of a win Felicia Spencer already took,

2025
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 3: had her shot and lost. They've waited long enough for

2026
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 3: her to mature into this opportunities. No one else really

2027
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 3: ahead of her under more normal circumstances. This is the

2028
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 3: way they would have gone anyway. And by the way,

2029
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 3: if you're a champion, you have a responsibility to defend

2030
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 3: your title. So if she wants to do the whole

2031
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 3: one thirty five five thing, this was an inevitability. UFC

2032
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 3: has waited long enough. I don't find it necessarily all

2033
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 3: that competitive, but BC stranger things have happened, So probably

2034
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 3: Amanda wins walking away.

2035
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 1: But okay, it's the perfect matchup. Who else is she

2036
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 1: gonna fight? And I have to say this, like, that's

2037
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 1: a fun style matchup. A fighter who's that tall and

2038
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: long can do some things on the ground. In no

2039
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: world would we favor her to win. But I don't

2040
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 1: think this is I mean, this ain't like when you know,

2041
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 1: Chevchenko faught I and Chukaji and you're like, you know,

2042
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 1: I can't even find.

2043
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 2: A path to victory. It's interesting. I do want to

2044
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 2: ask you as a spinoff, tootles.

2045
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 4: Real quickly, real quickly, real quickly.

2046
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 3: Just I'll leave it on this one, which is, Remember,

2047
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 3: Amanda Nuna has knocked out Rond de Rousi in you know,

2048
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 3: short order and cyber organ less than a minute, and

2049
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 3: Holly Holman under a round. Can Megan Anderson do that? Probably? That,

2050
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 3: and more so the idea that she's going to take

2051
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 3: a beating worse than any of those other ones.

2052
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 4: I mean I don't. I don't really find that to

2053
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 4: be true.

2054
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 2: No, I don't either.

2055
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 1: But do you think it's time for the UFC, given

2056
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: that Amanda Nuna says, teased the idea of retirement before,

2057
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 1: given that her first child is about to be born,

2058
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: with Nina to just say, hey, look, give up the

2059
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 1: one thirty five title.

2060
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:54,919
Speaker 2: Stay at featherweight.

2061
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 1: You can take long gaps as we take time to

2062
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 1: build up viable contenders to you, you know, and if

2063
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 1: we ever get a big enough one thirty five as champion,

2064
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 1: you certainly can fight them. Wouldn't this allow like potentially

2065
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 1: the Aspen lad types at thirty five who were chomping

2066
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 1: at the bit to kind of make a name for themselves.

2067
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I know if this happens, they're gonna

2068
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 2: throw a Holly Holm back in.

2069
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: That tidn't pictures too as quick as freaking possible, But

2070
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 1: it might be that time, Luke, Why hold that division

2071
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 1: hostage if someone's gonna be busy and there isn't names anyway.

2072
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 3: So here's where I'm with you on that halfway. I

2073
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:29,560
Speaker 3: think we're getting to that point, and I think that

2074
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,679
Speaker 3: is an inevitability. I just don't think we're there yet.

2075
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 3: Number one. As I mentioned, they do need to kind

2076
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 3: of stock up one forty five before they ask her

2077
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 3: to just leave, because at a bare minimum, she may

2078
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 3: find herself winning this one quickly. The camp was fine,

2079
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 3: and she's ready to turn around and do it again

2080
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 3: very soon. I doubt that with the kid on the way,

2081
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 3: But one certainly never knows. To your other point there,

2082
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 3: it's not like there's like a clear Number one number

2083
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 3: two contender. They got some things to sort out there

2084
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 3: as well. So my thought is in six months we

2085
01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:00,640
Speaker 3: probably will be there, but for this moment, not necess sssarily.

2086
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 4: A thing we have to rush. But I think you're

2087
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:03,719
Speaker 4: probably right on bout.

2088
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 1: Last point of the show, Luke, did you like that

2089
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 1: Belatore doubleheader announcement for September eleventh and twelfth? I believe

2090
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 1: it is the vacant VANDAM wait title. Bolt will be

2091
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: the Saturday night main event with PATCHI Mix against one

2092
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 1: Archiletta and what was the rematch Phil Davis against Too Machie.

2093
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 4: Yep, that's the other one.

2094
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 1: Also John Fitch, Nieman, Gracie, and I think Zingano and

2095
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:28,719
Speaker 1: Liz Carmush will make their Beltour debuts.

2096
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:30,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's a lot going on there for Belator.

2097
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 4: Really like that for them.

2098
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 3: That Archiletta PATCHI Mix fight, I got to tell you,

2099
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 3: that's another one where Archiletta tons of experience, hard to defeat,

2100
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 3: very well rounded, hard to hurt. PATCHI Mix doesn't have that,

2101
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 3: But what he does have is he is an absolute finisher,

2102
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 3: A very very talented guy at a Jackson Wink, great

2103
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 3: guy at taking the back, great striking, hard hitter. So

2104
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 3: it's like this guy who's got all these finishing tools

2105
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 3: with all this guy who's got you know, sort of

2106
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 3: the way to manage around and do well against the

2107
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 3: lead opposition. It's a phenomenal matchup. Sad that killed you, Horde.

2108
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 3: Gucci can't be here to defend it, but we all

2109
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 3: know the story there. So I love that fight for

2110
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 3: for Beltre as well. Okay, last, but not least, I

2111
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 3: didn't mention the top of the show because we kind

2112
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 3: of got carried away. Well, I always have to thank

2113
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 3: Showtime here. If you would like to try Showtime, you

2114
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 3: may do so. Go to showtime dot com. You can

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Speaker 3: get a thirty day free trial. If you like it,

2116
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 3: you can keep it.

2117
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 4: If not, you can bounce.

2118
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Speaker 3: Please give this video a thumbs up subscribe to this

2119
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 3: channel because folks, we've been teasing it forever, but you

2120
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 3: now see that there is something we were absolutely being

2121
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Speaker 3: serious about.

2122
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Speaker 1: Please if you subscribe now time I wanted to raise

2123
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Speaker 1: the glass to you, Luke, and raise it and just

2124
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Speaker 1: just tap you. This is a big moment, Okay, and Luke,

2125
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 1: these are days to remember right here right never before

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01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 1: and never since a lot of years, a lot of

2127
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 1: years grind in Luke taking that that stick and banging

2128
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 1: it against the tree. All right, you've penetrated, So let's

2129
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Speaker 1: do this. Big things coming to CBS Sports Showtime, all

2130
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Speaker 1: that MK all day, most days, a lot of days

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Speaker 1: MK to the Ultra. Okay, and hey, look, CBS Sports

2132
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Speaker 1: HQ just acquired a pretty talented combat analyst as well.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I appreciate that. Well, I just want to

2134
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Speaker 4: be clear about something.

2135
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Speaker 3: I mean, yesterday I had to announce it because I

2136
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 3: am the one making the most amount of change. But

2137
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Speaker 3: the reality is, BC, this is our announcement, this is

2138
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 3: our future, this is our project.

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Speaker 4: This is just as much about you as it is

2140
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 4: about me.

2141
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:34,720
Speaker 3: Granted, you know I made the switch, but now it's

2142
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Speaker 3: just about what we are doing together and what we

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Speaker 3: are going to do with this audience. And so for that,

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Speaker 3: I am just unbelievably grateful. I'm glad that we got

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Speaker 3: it's been just one of the most rewarding projects I've

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Speaker 3: ever been a part of. And I made the switch

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Speaker 3: for a reason, BC, because I am betting on it

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Speaker 3: to win, and I think we will all in due time,

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Speaker 3: of course, as we mentioned, things are going to roll

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Speaker 3: out slowly. We're not to just jump into anything, you know,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna build towards something sustainable and likable and you know,

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Speaker 3: different and cool. So yeah, that'll all your viewers.

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Speaker 1: Come on over to the Morning Combat side, all right.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to see producers dancing in the video.

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Speaker 2: Oh Jay's always getting in our videos, My bad. But

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Speaker 2: come on over to the Morning Combat side. Okay, tried

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Speaker 2: to sugnite them, Luke, but.

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Speaker 3: There you have it, and follow us, by the way

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Speaker 3: on social media. You can see the Twitter stuff there

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Speaker 3: and as well as the Instagram, Instagram and YouTube obviously

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Speaker 3: for Morning Combat. All right, BC, I've got to get

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Speaker 3: to my other job, well, the very last time I

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Speaker 3: have another job I have to get to. You'll never

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Speaker 3: hear me say that again, probably probably right, probably forever,

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Speaker 3: I suspect. So until then, everyone, thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for watching for BC, for Malka, for Showtime, for CBS.

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Speaker 3: That's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. May all of your

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Speaker 3: games be loyal