1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch us live every weekday. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: From seven pm to ten pm Eastern four to seven 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: the Odd Couple at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: searching FSR. 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 3: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple. 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts and the Eagles offense had one net passing 10 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 4: yard in the first half. You know how hard it 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 4: is to have one net passing yard in today's NFL. 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 4: It about that exactly. But in the second half alone, 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts just on passes ten plus are yards down 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 4: the field seven of nine for one fifty four to 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 4: two touchdowns over the course of the game. Again, after 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 4: having one net passing yard in the first half, he 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 4: finished the two twenty six through the air, forty rushing yards, 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 4: three passing touchdowns, puting the game winner, and one rushing touchdown. Guys, 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts has now won seventeen straight games as a starter. 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 4: In those seventeen games, is Lamar Jackson level forty three touchdowns. 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 4: List of these numbers, five turnovers, one super Bowl, ring one, 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 4: super Bowl MVP. 23 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what else he has to do to 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: make people feel better about him. We talk about it 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: all the time. Big Game, he came up big in 26 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: the second half, right when they needed him. Okay, sakwon 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: Barkley last year they stopped him from running in the 28 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: super Bowl. No problem, I'll get your super Bowl. The 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl that he lost, he played better than Patrick 30 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 1: Mahomes in other than the fumble that turned the game around. 31 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: Would you agree with that? 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 4: Right? 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: Listen, the man has been balling when need to prime 34 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: time and I'm. 35 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: Just saying, Okay, it doesn't have to look like everybody's 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: winning formula doesn't look the same. 37 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: Did We talk about it all the time. 38 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert looks like a fin quarterback, doesn't he big? 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: He just does. If you would build him in the lab, 40 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: that's what you would build. It just did. But Jalen hurts. 41 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: You don't win seventeen games in a row, including postseason 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP, where everybody in their uncle the week 43 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl, what they all say, came on, 44 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: here's how you beat the Eagle. Stop Saquin and then 45 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: Jayla's gonna have to throw the ball and guess what. 46 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: Guess what is that? 47 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 3: He won. 48 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: And change the script on everybody this year the first 49 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: two games, Yeah the Eagles. 50 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: Won, but look at Jalen Hurts. He don't have a 51 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: passing touchdown. Wasn't that? 52 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't that the conversation and this wasn't like it 53 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: was a block party, and well it literally was with 54 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: the kids. 55 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 2: It was a black bar. I say, what do you 56 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: mean by tumbo God blessed point? Like he wasn't just 57 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: piling on because they were front running and know they 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: were down big. They needed him. 59 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: They needed him to throw the football in order for 60 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: them to win and get come back. That's what was impressive. 61 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: The rams, Me and Sean King had a big blow 62 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: up on Friday. 63 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: He aint takes me back? Where was he? 64 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: I almost wanted to get on the plane, get a 65 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: forty dollars flight to Las Vegas on Spirit and show 66 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: up to his house. 67 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: I told about it, I said, he yeah, we were 68 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: talking about this. I said, By the way, Rob got 69 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: as Sean about he said what I said, calling them 70 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, the best quarterback in the league, were crazy. 71 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: You bother me at the microwave. I was trying to 72 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: heat up my food. You still bring up I'm like, 73 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: what all. 74 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying is and that game, which was a big 75 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: game when you say that that was right here, that 76 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: was one of those games maybe better because both teams 77 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: are undefeated, but the idea that the Rams had this 78 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: big lead on the road and they and they wind 79 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: up giving it up. So I don't know, Jalen hurts, 80 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: Jayalen hurts. I just I don't know what's not to like. 81 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: Here's a guy I just don't like. You can tell 82 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: me whatever. I don't know what's not to like about 83 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: him or for me to feel uh magenta about him, 84 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: or you know, like that's a little off color right magenta? 85 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean? Like a little gray 86 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 2: Stephen A Smith's suit, No, that's hot pink. Okay, I 87 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: thought you were talking about my man with the franken 88 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: what's the the You got the cocoa, the cereal, the 89 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: Franken move with the Frankenstein one Franken Berry whatever, Yeah, 90 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: the other one. Remember frank Franken. You got the Franken 91 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: Berry joint. Steven A. Smith, Yeah, he was like give 92 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: me that. They were like, yeah, wear this when he 93 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: was like, nah, louder, why you all on? Stephen A. 94 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: That's my boy right there. He looks he's the hardest 95 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: working guy. I don't be What. 96 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: Is Ryan Clark wearing tonight? 97 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: Oh god, you know what I mean? You know what 98 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: I mean? Rob g you know what mean? Time this 99 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: man and brought it up the last hour. Oh god, 100 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: what what is it? What are they where? Oh? Look 101 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: look Pat and me turns my mic off so he 102 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: can No, No, you're missing runking off my mic, turning 103 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: my Michael. Look at what are they? 104 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 4: Oh god, that's still better than Rob Oh TV too, Bob. 105 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 4: Ryan looks like right now, Oh god, he's about ninety 106 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 4: seven years old. What is he doing on TV right now? 107 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: Dub dub? Turn your mic off? What what he looks like? 108 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: Tells from the crit you guys are I'm not gonna 109 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 1: say anything off care off mic to you guys. 110 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: No, they just drop time like anything I've said. They 111 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: know I was gonna ride back. You trying to sit 112 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: up here and act like, Oh stephen A. Smith, I 113 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: love that coachor and I'm trying to do that now 114 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: to the point that Jayalen hurts. Jalen Hurts is hurting them. 115 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: And what I mean is he is hurting the people 116 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 2: who wanted to look a certain way. He's hurting the 117 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: people who this is how my quarterbacking is supposed to go, 118 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: supposed to look. I start digging in some numbers. Do 119 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: you want him to pass less than thirty times? Which 120 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: is what he typically does? Runs the ball a lot. 121 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: They run it too. He is twenty five and eight. 122 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: When he's under thirty passes, you know what he is 123 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: when he still throws thirty plus twenty two and nine. 124 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: So it's not like he can't. It's not like he's 125 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: nine and twenty two. 126 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: And last night was a perfect Yesterday was like the 127 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: idea that he can't. 128 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: They needed to come back, they needed passing. Now, yeah, 129 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: let me add to this now, rob G, I don't 130 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: know if we had do we have Aj Brown at all? 131 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: Look that up for me, just for those who didn't 132 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: get a chance to hear it for context. If we don't, 133 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: don't worry about to tell you what he said. But 134 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: AJ Brown, who is a freaking specimen of a human, 135 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 2: sometimes loves to read books on the sideline, which is 136 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: un Sometimes, which. 137 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: Is just I've never seen him covering the NFL Sins 138 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven, that the guy would be reading. 139 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: Sometimes yeah, he's channeling his inner gy and then other 140 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: times he's getting into it a little bit like hey, hey, hey, hey, 141 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred million dollar man for no reason. 142 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: And he kind of had something to say about that 143 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: this game this post game as well. But I think 144 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 2: he was tapping onto something. When I look at this 145 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: this Eagles team, and I specifically look at Jalen Hurts. 146 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: Sometimes I think Jalen Hurts is rolling around in a 147 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: really really nice Toyota camera. It's reliable, gets you the 148 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 2: point A, point B, doesn't fail on you, it doesn't 149 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: break down on you. This is a really solid car. 150 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: It is a very economically friendly and wise purchase. But 151 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: every now and again what aj Brown said has to 152 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: happen me personally. I truth aglieve man. 153 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 5: We got so many good. 154 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: Players on his team, you know, and and. 155 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: At times, you know, you can feel like we're being conservative, 156 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: and I. 157 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: Don't think it. I don't think it should be like that, 158 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: you know, I think it should be you know, let 159 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: your let your killers do do they thing. You know. 160 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: Man can play fast and can play aggressive, and I'm 161 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: saying that we haven't been for you know me personally, 162 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: that's what I would like. 163 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 4: You know, obviously, we're. 164 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: Gonna run the ball and we're gonna shut up the run, 165 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: off the pass and to pass off the run. But 166 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: you know we have a lot of good players Ansler 167 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: and we had, and you should just gotta go, you know, 168 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: unlock the cheat code, is what he's saying. Do you 169 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: see me? He's saying, do you see me? You pay 170 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: me a hundred million dollars. And every now and again, 171 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: I think Jayalen Hurts goes, oh yeah, not only am 172 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: I effective? I can run, We got say kwan, we 173 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: got some good pass okay, and make some wise decisions 174 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 2: every now and again, I gotta just give aj Brown 175 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 2: a Davante's with the ball, just because whether it be 176 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: a five yard out, whether it be a ten yard pass, 177 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: give them the ball and let them do what they do, 178 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: and specifically Aj Brown, because my gosh, was he embarrassing 179 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: those rams defensive backs, throwing them around, smacking them around, 180 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: trucking them and speaking of trucks. Every now and then, 181 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, who has been so efficient, has had so 182 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: much success in this league, I want him to go, 183 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: you know what, sener this Toyota camera. I got this 184 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: big super charge up f one fifty. Then I'm gonna 185 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: use that utility truck that can do it all. Catch passes, 186 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: run people of a run with yacht, get the yat 187 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: after the catch all of that, and I think he's like, oh, shoot, 188 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: I got some studs on the outside too, and that's 189 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: what makes them scary. 190 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: And a last point seventeen and oh and you're talking 191 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: about window dressing and doing it differently and just. 192 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: None of it's not doing it. It's not doing anything. Definitely, 193 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 2: I think he's saying, we have nothing the idea, the 194 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: idea winning. Absolutely, it's about winning. 195 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: I just don't understand now if you're struggling, okay, But 196 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: if you're struggling, then you could say, well, because we're 197 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: way too conservative and we do have people that we 198 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: could open it up and do this or do that. 199 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: Oh they did blow out the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, 200 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: did they not? But that's where I lead to this. 201 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: This season, they barely beat the Rams, no, right, and 202 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: they barely beat the Chiefs, and they barely beat the Cowboys. 203 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: And I think all he's saying is everybody's kiding Inukwan 204 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 2: has not had a good season thus far because they're 205 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: saying we gotta stop it. And I just think he's 206 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: all I get it. What he's saying is, don't forget 207 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 2: we got some horses and some weapons out here on 208 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: the outside. 209 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: As soon as as soon as they lose, and then 210 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: I'll listen to that conversation. 211 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 2: But they're not gonna look. I just told you they're 212 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: pretty much. There's twenty five and eight when he's less 213 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: than thirty passes attempted, twenty two to nine wins, So 214 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: they've been a They've been very very good either way. 215 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: And that's what makes them scary to me is what 216 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: they're capable of doing when they let loose. We've seen 217 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 2: it in playoffs, we've seen it in Super Bowls. That's 218 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: what makes them even more skill. 219 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm for the w I tell you, sports has a 220 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: short menu wins and losses. So you have other people 221 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: airing it out, doing this other stuff and they don't win, 222 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: but it looks good. I just don't understand anything like 223 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: and all players want the ball, all players want to 224 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: have their moment in the sun, But man, how about 225 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: winning like things? It's hard to complain. We always talk 226 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: about that winning is the cure, all like, what is there? 227 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: What is the conversation about? What if you come in 228 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: and you get throttled in your offense and there's points 229 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: left on the field and you feel like, well, we 230 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: could have done this, So that was open. 231 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 2: I'm all open for that conversation. 232 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: Because you only scored nine points in the first half 233 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: against a bad Giants team, that may that maybe I 234 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: could buy into that. But to do what they did 235 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: off of that and come back in a second. 236 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: AJ Brown is saying, we don't have to rely on 237 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: block two block field goals in the fourth football. We 238 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: don't have to rely on that. I'm not mad for it. 239 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: One of the best receivers who thinks he's probably a 240 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: top one two receiver in the league saying, throw me 241 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: the ball. Sometimes I'm not mad at that, Like that's 242 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: okay to me when he's that good, that great and 243 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: obviously and they saying been struggling this season thus far, 244 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: about three and oh, it's about win. He hit your boy. 245 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 2: It's about win. Hit your boy. Man. He had people 246 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: bouncing off that was ridiculous. That first that one catch 247 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: he had he busted up for about thirty forty yards. 248 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: That man. That was embarrassing for thefts. 249 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 250 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports 251 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 3: Radio and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live. 252 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 6: Hey, we're Covino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 253 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 6: five to. 254 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: Seven pm Eastern. 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Listen Over Promised with 279 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 5: Cadino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or 280 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 5: wherever you get your podcasts. 281 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 2: Fun Monday night football game on should be should be 282 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: a good one to teams that are both explosive and 283 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 2: rob I was thinking about this kind of going into 284 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: this one specifically for the Lions and this looking at 285 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: them because one of the things we've talked about the 286 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: scheduling man looking at the scheduling for the Lions. This 287 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: is a must win for the Lions. You don't I'm 288 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: not saying you lose, You're never gonna do anything else, 289 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: but this is a game they have to win. When 290 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: you look at their the rest of their schedule for 291 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: the next five or six weeks, this is a game 292 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: they gotta win because if they can. You look at 293 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: the games you go this one, you can. Let's say 294 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: you assume you win this one, then you got the Browns, 295 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: which is winnable, gonna be tough. Obviously we saw what 296 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: they just did to the Packers, and then the Bengals, 297 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: which again you know they've been they've been able to win, 298 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: but you feel like I can win those. Then you 299 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: got the Chiefs. Then you go on this tough run Chiefs, Bucks, Vikings, 300 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: which we'll see, and then the Maners and then the Eagles. 301 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 2: So you got a tough, tough run and if you 302 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: can win this one against a very very good team, 303 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: the team that this is actually my Super Bowl prediction, 304 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: but the team that you you know that all of 305 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 2: us have last three years, No, none of us is 306 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Last year Lions Chiefs. I was on my 307 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: way to the Commander's till Jared Goff turning to Jared, 308 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: what tennis? So this I'm looking at this game, man, 309 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: This is a huge win for the Lions. If you 310 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: can get this done, go to two and one and 311 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: again you got two games of winnable games with the 312 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: Browns and the Bengals, then you can go to four 313 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: and one. That way, you get yourself a buffer cushion. 314 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: Four likes of the Chiefs, four lives of the Bucks, 315 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: four likes of the the Eagles and the Commanders. So 316 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: I'm looking at this game like you have to view 317 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: this as a must win so that you can get 318 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: yourself some room any NFC, specifically in your division as well, 319 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: because this just stretch you. We've talked about it all, 320 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: you know, the last few weeks. The Lions schedule is 321 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: very very difficult this year. I mean, shoot, looking at 322 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: the rest of you still got the Packers another time 323 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: as well, and then the ra as well, just other 324 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: teams that you know to add on to the list. 325 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: So I'm looking at this game, rob if you're the Lions, 326 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: you gotta win. Jared Goff is eleven and one in 327 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: primetime games his last twelve. He's seven and two in 328 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: Monday night football games, which is huge as is by 329 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: the way, Lamar Jackson the guy he's going up against, So 330 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: something's gonna give. But I'm looking at this as that, 331 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: Am I crazy? 332 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: You're crazy, and no sense. Must win on the road 333 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: against Baltimore. This is not a must win game. You 334 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: you are talking about next week against Cleveland, Yeah, that's 335 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: a must win because after you take the l against Baltimore, 336 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: you need you don't want to lose to Cleveland and 337 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: then be one and three, that's a must win. 338 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: Or the Bengals without. 339 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: Burrow, Joe Burrow, Like that's a must win, you know, 340 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: Like those are the teams they got to make sure 341 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: that they try to win, because if you say this 342 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: is a must winning, they lose tonight to Baltimore. 343 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: Now what what would be your point that you would 344 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: be You'd be putting yourself way behind the ball the whole. 345 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: Not losing to Baltimore on the road, like this is 346 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: a game when you look at the schedule. I'm sorry, 347 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: I don't care what team you probably said, this will 348 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: be an l right here, like this is a tough 349 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean, they're one and one, but they score forty 350 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: points in each of their game pretty. 351 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: Easily, right, I'm just I don't look at it that way. 352 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: I don't see this as they have to win the 353 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: night in order to survive or to be able to 354 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: continue to do whatever they're doing. I just think that 355 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: that's a real tough call. Especially you didn't even mention 356 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: what Lamar is against NFC teams. 357 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: What game ever right against NFC? T think it's like 358 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: four and two or something. It's a ridiculous I got 359 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: to get that exact one because that is one of 360 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: the greatest stats of all time. 361 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just ridiculous. So I don't look at 362 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: tonight like that. I expect the Lions to lose. I 363 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: expect Baltimore to win. And then for me, it's can 364 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: the Lions pick themselves up right and then play the other. 365 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: The other one? Four and two is ridiculous, that's look 366 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: and then we know it's funny and the opposite end 367 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: of that, Jared god and then what ten and one? 368 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 4: He's also ten and one in home primetime games, I 369 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 4: mean Baltimore. Yeah, he's thirty total touchdowns in those games. 370 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: Was also weird. He I'm just saying, this is not 371 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: a must win. 372 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: They win, it would be an incredible win for the 373 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: line season, but I must win. 374 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 2: Jared Goff is seven and one against the AFC in 375 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 2: his last eight. So we got two guys twenty four 376 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: and two. Well, I'm saying, two guys who have been 377 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 2: great versus the opposite conference, two guys who have been 378 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: great in prime time both seven and two on Monday night, 379 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 2: so we should be in for a good one. But 380 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: I know, listen, that's why I said if they lose, 381 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: it's not as if they're out of this thing. But 382 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 2: that would just give them such a huge edge, a 383 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: huge runway to go against this one, and then you 384 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: can if you can win those next two, because like 385 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 2: I said, if you ask him for a lot and 386 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 2: you go for But you gotta be good teams anyway, No, like, 387 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: why can't you? Why can't you be a good team? 388 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: That's not what we're talking about. But to say that 389 00:17:59,080 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: they have to. 390 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: Win, you ain't get that they better win in Baltimore. Okay, 391 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: you're hoping that they win, but to say that. 392 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: You better go out there and show Baltimore is what 393 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 2: it is. We can get a big ross. They get 394 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: a forty point Burger put on them there and they 395 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: lose forty to forty. That's a good good win Detroit. No, 396 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: they lose forty two to nine. That's the score, Lions. 397 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: They absolutely not only scoring nine. The Ravens defense is 398 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: not Ray Lewis. Ain't walking through that door. You don't 399 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: need to have. Their defense ain't walking through that door. 400 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: You got to go. It's not about to be Jaredy. 401 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 2: He might throw one. I ain't gonna say he can 402 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: go throw nothing. 403 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: The last time that game that I seen throwing out 404 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: he gotta win. In one of those games against an 405 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: AFC team on a national game, he threw five interceptions 406 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: in that game. 407 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 2: I think you forget that against the Texans won next 408 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: he won the same sins. I don't know what the 409 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: Texans do. My gosh. No, they're supposed to go to 410 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: the super Bowl. That's what everybody told us. You ain't 411 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 2: gonna let them. No, I'm not. 412 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: Because it was after one season, you know what I mean, 413 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: And everybody crowned every and I'm not. I don't have 414 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: anything against them, Rob g I don't care if he's 415 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: a black quarterback. 416 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: Everybody crowded. Didn't bring it up c J. 417 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: Stroud though, didn't they They annoyed to them here that he's. 418 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: A black quarterback. But it also doesn't hurt the fact 419 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 4: that quarterback. 420 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: Everybody been taking shot to CJ. Ever since that moment. 421 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: He wapped up Kayler Williams and was like, Yo, man, 422 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: hey man, you know you're gonna be all right. Hey, 423 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: don't let it, you know, just get better from him. 424 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: You missed it because you were off that day. 425 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: The day that you left early. 426 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 4: We found out Carrie Roads also does not like black quarterbacks. 427 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: Right. 428 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 4: Because he went to Louisville. But both of him and 429 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 4: Rob together, Oh my god, it was like a hate 430 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 4: crime in here. 431 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 2: Who did he like? None of none of them. 432 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 4: You don't like Jaalen Hurts, Patrick Holmes was bad, just 433 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 4: like Rob's. Stroud was struggling. 434 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, y'all got about three to five more years 435 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: not liking black quarterbacks because the Dagos whole league is 436 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: about to be black quarterback. Have you seen college football lately? 437 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: That's gotta be racist. College football's always have black quarterbacks. 438 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: They just don't get to the LEA. They couldn't get 439 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: in the league back in the day Charlie Ward won 440 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: the Heisman. 441 00:19:58,560 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: They had to go to the NBA. Ain't then a 442 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: you want to and they said, cool, you want to 443 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,239 Speaker 2: go play for the Nay then black quarterbacks all over. 444 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 2: But I'm saying now, Game one was sixteen starters, the 445 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: most ever five years or so. You're gonna lose your mind. 446 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 2: That will match up with your retirement though, No, no, no, 447 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: I'll just talk five more years. I'll just start following 448 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 2: the CFL. That's all I have. 449 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 4: You know, four in the top six passerways, the NFL 450 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 4: Black quarterbacks Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love, Caleb Williams, and my 451 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 4: guy Danny Dives. 452 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 2: Carry just fell down the stairs right now. Carry. 453 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 4: You didn't even hear the Danny Dives. Hey man, we're 454 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 4: claiming for a second. 455 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: No wait mate, what how is uh? 456 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: Who do we just? You just tell me the three names? 457 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: How did Love get in there after that performance? Just 458 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: so he's still in there? 459 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, the first two games like twelve passes and 460 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: got touchdowns on like eight of them. 461 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 462 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 463 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 464 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 3: listen live. 465 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: Also, we talked about comebacks and just games that would 466 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 2: just yesterday one of them too. Was the Chargers able 467 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: to come back as well? The Chargers? Man, we were 468 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: discuss discussing get the Broncos, who obviously a lot of 469 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: people a high on the Broncos. A lot of people 470 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: had them maybe winning the division as well. Obviously some 471 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: people are the Chargers, a couple people, you know, the Chiefs, 472 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 2: so tough division, one of the best in football. But 473 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: a comeback for sure? What a pick up them getting 474 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: Keenan Allen was again just a guy, a blanket, somebody 475 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: that you're used to throwing to if you're justin Herbert. 476 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 2: That was a great pickup for them. It just wasn't 477 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: working out with the Bears and able to come back 478 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: for them, and he's been just with the doctor ordered 479 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: for them as they lost Mike Williams, who just decided 480 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 2: to retire after Blue. But we were talking about it 481 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: a little bit earlier. We had TJ. Housman's out on 482 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 2: Go check out the podcast if you missed it in Man, 483 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 2: I was just thinking about just the way in which 484 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: Jim Harball is able to come into this team who 485 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: has had success as far as winning. They've won games 486 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 2: in the regular season, but they just haven't been able 487 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: to close games. They've lost over ganga games, very close, 488 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: last minute, last se blad, play calling, bad, bad use 489 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 2: of timeouts over the last two or three years. And 490 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: now it seems to have that stability that he typically 491 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: brings to an organization. You go all the way back 492 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 2: to Stanford, you go to the forty nine ers, you 493 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: go to Michigan. Now you're seeing what he did last 494 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: season with the Chargers, now you're seeing this season and 495 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: we're starting to get some of the best football that 496 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: I've seen out of Justin Herbert. He's starting to be 497 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: that as we're watching, he got Friday night lights above 498 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: us here. He's starting to be that prototypical if I 499 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: was designing a QB in a lab would be. He 500 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: has six touchdowns, one interceptions right now, one hundred and 501 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: five QBR, his completion percentage almost sixty seven percent. He's 502 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 2: had comebacks, He's just looked great thus far. And there's 503 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 2: a stability that Jim Harball has had, and he's actually 504 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: unlocked him. He's not just doing the are we gonna 505 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: run it forty five times and you just make a 506 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: couple of passes. He actually is running the offense, and 507 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 2: it kind of reminds me of they're different types of player. 508 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: But what he did with Colin Kaepernick where he said, 509 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna unleash you, acid run it, be an RPO, 510 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: you know, just use you as an absolute weapon. And 511 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: that's how he's starting to use Justin Herbert, not just 512 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: run the ball, not just to li on their defense. 513 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: And he has gotten him to a level that we 514 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 2: thought he could be at and even last season only 515 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: having with three interceptions. So he is taking this team 516 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: to the next level. And there's something when you look 517 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: at your coach and you absolutely believe what he's saying, 518 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 2: You absolutely believe in the next play, you absolutely believe 519 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: that we can come back and win this. And they 520 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: didn't have that with their last coach. They absolutely had 521 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 2: no one, They had no assurance. They looked at him, 522 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 2: there was no We all knew it was gonna make 523 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 2: the wrong decision when it comes to play calling, wrong 524 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: decision when it comes to clock management, wrong decision, when 525 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: to go for it, when not to go for it. 526 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: And now to be able, I think they can look 527 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: over their shoulder and have Jim Harbaugh and they absolutely 528 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: believe it. And that's just that extra five ten percent 529 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: that you get from a team that makes you from 530 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 2: a good to a great, that makes you from barely 531 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 2: making the playoffs to having a legitimate chance to compete 532 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: for a Super Bowl. And Jim Harball has continuously brought 533 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 2: everywhere he's gone, and it looks like so far he's 534 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: been able to bring that a season in three games 535 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: into his tenure with the Chargers. Did you see the 536 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 2: playoff game last year? I did. 537 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just the Jim Harball is the greatest coach. 538 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: Thing I just can't get with. Jim Harball finally won 539 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: a championship thanks to cheating with Michigan. That's when we 540 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: finally he finally broke through. He's had good teams, don't 541 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: get me wrong, but he's never won anything until the 542 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: cheating scandal, and he ran out of town and ann 543 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: Aubor after he knew that was coming down as well. 544 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: After he finally was able to beat he. 545 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: Couldn't beat Ohio State for a long time, and then 546 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he was able to beat Ohio 547 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: State miraculously. All of a sudden, he had all the 548 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: answers to what had happened. Jim Harball was so bad 549 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: with Michigan, so bad. People don't remember this that he 550 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: had a pay had to take a pay cut. You 551 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: remember that, Like they should have fired him, but they 552 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: didn't him. They made him take a pay cut. That 553 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: was their kind of like way of getting at him. 554 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: And then number two, nobody would even remember. The Lions 555 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't interview him. He couldn't get a job. Remember he's 556 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: trying to get back in the NFL. After what had 557 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: happened at Michigan and nobody wanted him, so that happened. 558 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: He's turned programs around. I'm just not ready to crown 559 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: him because I believe in all honesty that a lot 560 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: of the issues that we talk about have to do 561 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: with they had bad coaching before. Brandon Steel is probably 562 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: one of the worst NFL coaches, and that he was 563 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: playing Madden and going forward in his own end like 564 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: no matter what. It was like the most ridiculous thing. 565 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: And he probably should have been fired a lot sooner 566 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: than he was. And uh, he was able to survive 567 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: because of that. Remember that he should have been fired 568 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: after that playoff game. Remember that they lost to Jacksonville, 569 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: which was ridiculous. So my point is, yes, the Chargers 570 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: are playing better, They're off to a great start, but 571 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to crown Jim Harball yet. I think 572 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: there's a lot of work to go. He had a 573 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: great team in San Francisco, they couldn't win. They didn't win, 574 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: and then after a while, you know, like Jim Harbor, 575 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: after a while. 576 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 2: Oh not to move on. He's nomadic. He ain't gonna 577 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: be somewhere long. He everything. He's like you know, always 578 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: give you that example of again, the things that make 579 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 2: him great are the things that eventually will wear it down. 580 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 3: There. 581 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: You see, he's not gonna have it. Andy Reid with 582 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: Kansas City, Mike Tomley with the Steelers, I'm gonna be there, 583 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 2: John Harbor, his brother with the with the Ravens, I'm 584 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 2: gonna be here for a long long time. He's here 585 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: for a good time, not a long time. He's only 586 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: gonna be there three four five years max. Now he 587 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: has justin Herbert, so that obviously makes it more enticing. 588 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: But I can't discredit somebody who has gone everywhere and 589 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: had a bunch of them. I'm not discrediting him. I'm 590 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: just not crowning him. And that's fair. That's fair. But 591 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 2: I'm saying to me, the. 592 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: One championship that he won is tainted. So I'm not 593 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: gonna crown him that he's the greatest coach. Oh my god, 594 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: Jim Halball has turned every prog around. But that's what 595 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 596 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 2: He actually goes places and gets the best out of 597 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: those guys. And specifically when you talk about what he 598 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 2: was able to do with Andrew Luck early on, then 599 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: with Colin Kaepernick, nobody had any expectations of We see 600 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: the best version of him. J J. McCarthy. He got 601 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: him all the way to a tenth pick and even 602 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: I was blown away by that. And now we're seeing 603 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: the best of Justin Herbert. So here is something to 604 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: what he brings, and now they're reaping the benefit of it. 605 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 2: And again we'll see it's early, it's only three weeks. 606 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 2: They we'll see what the season holds. But I like 607 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 2: how he is able to come in reinvigorate, you know, 608 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: revitalize a team, a franchise, an organization, or a school 609 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: and get the best out of them, and get the 610 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: best out of the quarterback. Because Justin Herbert currently will 611 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: be the probably MVP runaway as of three weeks in. 612 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: He looks that good. Right now, this team is sitting 613 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: at three and zero, especially a comeback win. They don't 614 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 2: win that game last year or two years ago. I'm sorry, 615 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: because hardbo. They don't win that game two years ago. 616 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: They find a way to lose. They to dog, we 617 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: just will come back. We'll get him back next week. 618 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 2: They don't find a way to win that game two 619 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: years ago, and they do it because he's there.