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Speaker 1: and welcome in. The Rams win the Super Bowl on

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Speaker 1: a game in which I thought both defensive lines really

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Speaker 1: dictated style of play. I thought the Rams were the

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Speaker 1: Rams had a really rough second half for most of

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Speaker 1: it offensively, and what I wondered watching it was they

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Speaker 1: and I wondered if McVeigh was protecting Stafford to some

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Speaker 1: to the run. But you know, when I look at

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Speaker 1: the Rams this year, I think about resilience. They lose

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Speaker 1: Here in the Super Bowl. It's Tyler Higbee, it's ob

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Speaker 1: j It was an incredibly resilient team, and they asked

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Speaker 1: a lot of players who weren't playing to step up

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Speaker 1: in key moments. A lot of credit to Cincinnati their

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Speaker 1: the Rams offensive line, perhaps not in pass protection, but

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Speaker 1: certainly in the run game. But I thought the game

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Speaker 1: they really he ends up being MVP. They really focused

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Speaker 1: on Cooper Cup. I mean at that point, you know,

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Speaker 1: when you miss a pat early everybody talks about the

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Speaker 1: effect of the pat But the advantage for the Rams

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Speaker 1: missing the pat is that trailing by four, they had

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Speaker 1: give mcvahon the Rams credit. On that final drive. They

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Speaker 1: For most of it. They could have run the ball,

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Speaker 1: So that was the adapt that was moving off what

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Speaker 1: Conference finals games in the NFL and NBA, ref swallow

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Speaker 1: McVeigh is not going to retire. It's absolute nonsense. He's

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Speaker 1: those receivers. Absolutely. You know, it's funny about these Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: That pass rush gave the Rams more trouble than I think,

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Speaker 1: Refs whiffed on one of the first half against the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: He went straight to Cooper Cup. I don't care. I

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Speaker 1: You know what it is, the last time McVeigh had

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Speaker 1: one he's got two years left. Shouldn't be that rough

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Speaker 1: Sean is a great leader. Man, shout out to sign man.

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Speaker 1: He deserved this. He create that vibe that all the

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Speaker 1: players want. Man, What you think the NFL is, that's

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Speaker 1: the vibe that Sean create. Man is a lot of

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Speaker 1: be one thing, and they get a rude awakening it's

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Speaker 1: nothing like what you think it is what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: But the vibe is exactly what you think it is. Man,

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Speaker 1: that real professional type treatment. That's exactly what Sean is. Man.

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Speaker 1: So that's why guys love to play for him. That's

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Speaker 1: why I love a play for him. That's why I

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Speaker 1: got a lot of respect for him. He really deserved

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Speaker 1: his Super Bowl. You said that KiB treated he treated

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Speaker 1: you like a man. Yeah, what do you mean by that? Man?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you some of the stuff that I had

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Speaker 1: Like take coming to building, you know, don't don't bring

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Speaker 1: your phones in the eating area or the treatment area.

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Speaker 1: Like it's like little kid rules, work, work, color polos

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Speaker 1: around home, games around the locker room, if you leave

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Speaker 1: be dressed like it's just little stuff like that. That's

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Speaker 1: that's little stuff, right, Colin budd We've like grown in here.

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Speaker 1: I got I got like freshman in high school kids.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And you nit picking at

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Speaker 1: the little small stuff. Man, It's it's bigger than that.

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Speaker 1: Just it's it's a certain way that man that a

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Speaker 1: player could be treated around that building, and you don't

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Speaker 1: get it everywhere I had. I had what three, six,

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Speaker 1: seven eight different head coaches, and you don't get it

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Speaker 1: all the time. Colin, I'm telling you and Sean do

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Speaker 1: a great job creating that vibe that players love. Jalen Ramsey,

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Speaker 1: your buddy had a pretty rough I mean, listen, tough

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Speaker 1: assignments Jamar Chase te Higgins. I thought that te Higgins

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Speaker 1: face mask that was a pretty bad missed by the officials.

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Speaker 1: But when you're a corner, the reality is you can't

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Speaker 1: lose your confidence. I mean, I'm sorry, but you just

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Speaker 1: gotta have a short memory. What do you think Jalen's

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Speaker 1: thinking he won? Do you think he's just happy? Let

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Speaker 1: me see Higgins four for one hundred, Chase five eighty nine.

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Speaker 1: Higgins had a long touchdown on him seventy five. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he mad, he happy he won. But Jayleen is a

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Speaker 1: top tier competitor, man, you know what I'm saying, And

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Speaker 1: he wanted to be successful in games like this. Man. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but he gonna see some more. Man, he young, He's

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Speaker 1: gonna see some more. He's gonna get in this game again,

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Speaker 1: and that's gonna be his passion. Now now he gonna

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Speaker 1: want to get back to this game and play well

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Speaker 1: in this game. So it is what it is. He

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Speaker 1: definitely was passing the fare with God grabbed him and

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Speaker 1: threw him down. You gotta call that man, you take

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Speaker 1: that seventy five yards off. I don't know if his

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Speaker 1: day would be that bad. Look a lot better without

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Speaker 1: that touchdown, you know what I'm saying. So I just

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Speaker 1: know what type of guy he is. That's one of

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Speaker 1: my little homies in the league. And uh, he don't

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Speaker 1: want his game to look like that. He won his

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Speaker 1: game to be come out of the game, and there's

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Speaker 1: no question he had three pass breakups and interception or

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Speaker 1: you know a lot of players. So he not happy

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Speaker 1: with the game. He would definitely be happy with it

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Speaker 1: with the ring thought. I mean, I ain't gonna do that,

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Speaker 1: but definitely keep in the end. You know, people often

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Speaker 1: say did the best team win the Super Bowl? You

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Speaker 1: know what the Rams did, which is really impressive, dude.

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Speaker 1: They were the most resilient team. Robert Woods cam Akers

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Speaker 1: lost maybe j um this game, Tyler Higbee. They were

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Speaker 1: not at full strength. They had to win at Tampa.

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Speaker 1: They had to be and that's that's the credit to

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Speaker 1: Sean Man. He got all the guys ready. Man, I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, he's certain coaches. How you really ready to

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Speaker 1: play for him when they when you believe it's next

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Speaker 1: man up, and you always got to be ready. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: they go through one year and out the other. And

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Speaker 1: when some coaches said to you, you really give you

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Speaker 1: them looks and you know how to touch everybody in

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Speaker 1: the building. So guy's got to step in. Man. God

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Speaker 1: stepped up today, man, big time. Man, it was it

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Speaker 1: was crazy. Well keep this has been a great twenty minutes. Um.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy for my friends that worked for the Rams.

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Speaker 1: I think the Bengals were a lot better than I

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Speaker 1: thought up front. Defensively, they got playmakers. They're going nowhere.

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Speaker 1: It's a young roster. I love. I love having you

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Speaker 1: with the vault. Go back to your party, man, you

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