1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: You're listening to Kicking It with John and Gregg. One's 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: a real estate agent. Ooh man, they're definitely editing that out. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: The other is an all world punter for your Seattle Seahawks. Yeah, 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: you can't. I'll get you to say that. We'll just wait, 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: we'll see. I think you can say that. I hope 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: you can. Power by Seahawks dot Com. No, you never know, 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: well I do. I am sure you never know, and 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: tell you know and I know. Welcome. It's another jition 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: of kicking up John and Greg. I am your host 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: and Seattle Seahawk punter John Ryan. I'm joined here as 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: always by Greg Woodman. What is up, buddy. We have 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: a special episode today, Yes we do. We have a 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: very special guest from the Real world count which we've 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: talked about on the show before many times, many times, 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: and the real world Brooklyn. Yes, Sarah Rice, that's me. 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on. Oh my gosh, 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: thanks for having well. First of all, thank you so 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: much for saying all the nice things he said about 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: me on your podcast before. Oh well, we're we're big. 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: We're big fans of the show, both of us and 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: watching the I mean you probably have answered these questions 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: a million times. They're probably sick of it, so we're sorry, Well, no, 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, we don't sign up for reality television if 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: you don't want expect a little bit of that to 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: come with it. That's true, Yes, but watching that last 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: episode of the challenge was one of the most I'm 27 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: a huge reality TV show fan, like hardcore, like every 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: terrible reality show I watched, not not the Real World, 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: I like that one. But that was one of the 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: most heartbreaking moments in reality TV. Oh, I'll say it was. 31 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: I relived that moment often because I just think, like God, 32 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: if I weren't so invested like me, I would have 33 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: just done what you said, just sat down and just 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: give him up them been like, no, I'm not doing this. 35 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna take my money? Oh yes, If you don't know, 36 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: there was at the end of the challenge last year, 37 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: there are two they competed in teams up two, and 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: at the end the last challenge, the competitor within those 39 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: two that didn't win the competition between the two could 40 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: either take all the money or choose to split it 41 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: between them, which any like a normal, wi decent person 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 1: in the world that you go through Like I don't 43 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: know how long it is in a real time, how 44 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: long he ays are in the house for serious, that 45 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: was one of you're competing for two months with a partner, 46 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: and Sarah and her partner Johnny Bananas, right, yeah, win 47 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: the whole thing and get to split a lot of money, 48 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: but instead he chooses to take all the money and 49 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 1: leave you with nothing after you want a two competition, 50 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: So spoiler, was that is that done? I mean, did 51 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: you have any idea? Did you? I mean I remember 52 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: you worrying at least from it showed on the show, 53 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: like worrying about it throughout the competition where it kind 54 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: of I should tell everyone, Sarah, airport right now, so airport, 55 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: we hear announcements. Don't go running for your gage. It's 56 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: just it's just it's just me because my my FOYE 57 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: got delayed. So, you know, looking back on it, I 58 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: can't believe I didn't expect it. I mean, of course, 59 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: it almost seemed like the entire season led up to 60 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: that moment, and it would be bad television for him 61 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: to split it. I would have been better TV. Good 62 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean maybe like like for us, like people like 63 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, warmhearted folks have a soul, you know. But 64 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: for everybody who like just wants to see the drama, 65 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: which is what we eat up for the National Enquirer 66 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: readers out there, that was the decision that he was 67 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: supposed to make. And I don't fault him for it. 68 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm I'm more like against, like, you know, production, for 69 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: not like slipping me a bone somewhere or along the 70 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: lines to be like, you know, here's the here's like 71 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: the you know, we're sending a new one a cruise 72 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: or I thought maybe they would do like an after 73 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: show and be like, oh, you know, we're gonna give you, 74 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: like a chance if you answered these five tribuna questions 75 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: like something easy. You know, I really feel like I 76 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: was like, what what what is that? I'm the only one, 77 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: every single other person, every person on here, I'm the 78 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: only one not making money even production. Wow. Two months 79 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: a long time and I was just married. I mean, 80 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: in hindsight, I like my husband was like, I told 81 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have gone. But I had just gotten married 82 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: about four months before, so I was like a newlywed 83 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: and we're only allowed one ten minute phone call once 84 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: a week. Wow. So being in that house like being 85 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: in jail. People. Yeah, in jail, you get television, you 86 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: get magazines. They took away my crosser puzzles. They we 87 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: don't get music, we don't get internet, we don't get home, 88 00:04:54,360 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: we don't get it kind of creates this, oh, this 89 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: separate world, this kind of you know, it shuts off 90 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: reality and it creates its own contained you know, a 91 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: little microcosm of of you see people every day, Like 92 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: if you if you if everyone in there had their phones, 93 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: everyone wouldn't even talk to each other, not even a word. 94 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: I would never even speak to no way I mean 95 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: and no, there would be no drama. There'd be you know, 96 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: nothing would happen. And they tried that, so that didn't work. 97 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: So then they started taking things away, and you know, 98 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: the drama went up. And do you think that's also 99 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: why it seems like all the real world people end 100 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: up like dating each other. Yes, separate world. But there's 101 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: also something that goes on that happens with anybody you experience, uh, 102 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: like a real emotionally heated event with or like if 103 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: you do something that gets you really excited, you have 104 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: like this this transfer of arousal, Like however excited you 105 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: are about it, that excitement over the moment can transfer 106 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: to the person and you think that you love the 107 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: person even though you just are excited about the moment. 108 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: So I think a lot of times, like partners, when 109 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: they're paired up together and they win together, they have 110 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: this like strange attraction for each other all of a 111 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: sudden that's not really like real. That's always why I 112 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: make up with my teammates. There you go, there you go. 113 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: That's why a touchdown catch, That's why they always loved 114 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: each other on the right, that's right, I right now. 115 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: Was any of the build up they I mean they 116 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: the times where they showed you guys throughout that season 117 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: is I mean as a team, you guys crushed everybody. 118 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: I mean there was no question that you guys were 119 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: the absolute strongest. Was the talks of like actually, you know, 120 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: trying to bury the hatchet of all that stuff that 121 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: had happened before. Did that feel real and genuine too? 122 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: That you actually so real? That's what I was most 123 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: upset about, because holy, like you know, this sounds so 124 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: you know, cheesy, But the money was not as big 125 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: of an issue, like in hindsight it is, But at 126 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: the moment I just felt like such a fool. I 127 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 1: kept saying that over and over, like I my heart 128 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: was invested in this friendship and the things that he 129 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: said to me, and you know, and then I just 130 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: felt like such an idiot because there was so much 131 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: backsword to it, Like I was the kid in school who, like, 132 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, I was like a nerd, and the cool 133 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: girls were like, oh, we're going to meet up, you know, 134 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: at the mall at this time, and then I would 135 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: go there and then they wouldn't be there, and like that, 136 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: like that happened in my real life in junior high, 137 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: and so I felt like I was reliving everything that 138 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: I had tried so hard to like grow up and 139 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: run away from and then change and better myself. I 140 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: was like right back in that moment and being like 141 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: a thirteen year old again, and I was just devastated, 142 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: as you guys could see. Yeah, So it was more 143 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: it was more like that. That was more. I was like, 144 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm such a fool from and like 145 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: why did I ever thought think that the cool kid 146 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: would like me? But then I'm like, why do I 147 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: think this guy's the cool kid? That's the that's the 148 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: have you have you talked to Johnny Bananas since not 149 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: a word and he wouldn't even we uh, we were 150 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: in New York filming the reunion and we rode the 151 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: elevator together and he wouldn't even make eye contact with 152 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: my husband, and you know, and my husband's like a 153 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: footoller than him to and you know, it looked pretty good, 154 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, and my husband's got like a real job 155 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: and like its like a you know, and he's like yeah, 156 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: So it was like he just didn't even want to 157 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: look at me or make eye contact with me. That yeah, 158 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: And the and like the big, the big picture, like 159 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean, what is it? It's who cares? How much 160 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: time was there between them actually, like announcing their decision 161 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: from finishing? Was it? Really? It was? It really fast, 162 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: like right then and there was a lot later. Think, 163 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: oh my god. That was the worst part is that 164 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: we made it to the top of the mountain and 165 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: I was so thrilled and I was so excited that 166 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: we won. But then we had to wait for every 167 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: other team. The other team, some of them were like 168 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: two hours behind us, so we had to sit there 169 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: and wait and they wouldn't let us talk to each other. 170 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: And I was like, something's weird about that, and they 171 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: won't let us even look at each other. And I meanwhile, 172 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, all this adrenaline's going and then we just 173 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: have to sit there and wait. It was probably like 174 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: three hours, so it was like three hours that he 175 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: got to stew on it and think about like, you know, okay, 176 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: well what is this? What's we're only going to be 177 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: the worst? You know, are you with him or with 178 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: like the producers and like the creators show, like like 179 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: would you blame him or do you blame oh, the producers? Yeah, 180 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: of course the whole for sure. It was totally well 181 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: and then and then there were things like you know, 182 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm a psych student, so like I can pick up 183 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: on this the mind games you're playing. And in the 184 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: when TJ announced our partners, like in the very very 185 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: first episode, he said, Johnny, you're paired up with the 186 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: player who made arguably the most cunning move and challenge history, 187 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: and Johnny hates not being the holder of that trophy. 188 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: So I was like, this is not a mistake that 189 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: they chose those words. Then flash forward to the very 190 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: um start of the final TJ goes, this can be 191 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: a chance for you to make the most cunning move 192 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: in challenge history uses the exact same words, and there 193 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm no idiot. Yeah yeah that was a script right 194 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: who wrote? Who put that and used it? And in 195 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: Johnny's mind he went, oh, so then she's not the 196 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: one who's the winner for that award. Now I'm going 197 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: to be that guy. Yeah, of course he's going to 198 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: do that. It makes tone offense. Wow. So you know, 199 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: I just feel like, oh god, I got played. That's yeah. 200 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: Like I said, you heard, you heard the show that 201 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: we did. We both me and him both were just like, 202 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: there's just no way, as people, is there any part 203 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: of you that had it went the other way that 204 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: would have taken all the money? No? No, And I wish, 205 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: I really wish, because I don't think I could sleep 206 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: at night. Like after the decision I made on the 207 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: previous challenge, I struggled with that one, and that was 208 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: the decision that was there was not even to send 209 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: him home. It was just to you know, yeah, he 210 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: has to he has to try. Like I mean, I 211 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: wrestled with that one and lost pleeple over that one, 212 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: thinking I did the wrong thing and how selfish of me. 213 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: So no way, because it's not. It was more about 214 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: the teamwork for me. Yeah, and I'm like all about 215 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I'm all about you know, the 216 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: buddy system and helping your friend out and like you 217 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: know what, I what is that? So what happens in it? 218 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: Because you could we sit back here and watch it 219 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: and there's times where it's like, okay, well develop that. 220 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: You see people develop a plan of like let's get 221 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: rid of Johnny or Vince and like let's we we 222 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: all have this plan. If this happens, then we're going 223 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: to do this, and everyone's on board and some how 224 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: between that and then when it comes time to like 225 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: how does that change to where someone just completely doesn't 226 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: stick with it? You know? I think I think that 227 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: that production's caught on and they're making it more and 228 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: more difficult to have those plans, Like they're switching the 229 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: script on us to where you know, you can't really 230 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: plan who's going to make it to the finish line. 231 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: They see what we were doing and so now and 232 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: now it's like changed a whole bunch. But then I 233 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: think everybody like there's this whole um. I want to 234 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: vote for anybody as long as it's not me so 235 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: if if the if, and that's kind of with all 236 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: these voting reality shows, if the group is going one direction, 237 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: chances are good the rest of the group is going 238 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: to go that direction too, like because it's they're just 239 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: happy it's not that long. So it's like this, uh, 240 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, you see it on Survivor all the time. 241 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: So people are like willing to throw people under the 242 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: bus for money. It's amazing when when when that happens. 243 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: If someone gets eliminated right away, if you're in that 244 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: initial groups group, so you get out to wherever you're 245 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: wherever you're filming for that location. If you get eliminated 246 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: in the first challenge or two, do they send you 247 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: home or do you stay there in case something because 248 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: we've seen at times where someone comes back or something 249 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: or how does that. Well, most of the time they 250 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: just send them home, Um, unless there's some like uh, 251 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: when I went home in Thailand, I got sent home 252 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: because my partner just quit, like like she just quit, 253 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: and so you know, I didn't do anything, but I 254 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: had to get sent home and they I think they 255 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: took pity on me, and they kept me around for 256 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: like two weeks, and I was just like Okay, well 257 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go travel around Thailand and you guys call 258 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: me when you need me. So that was the best 259 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: trip because I got like all the perks but none 260 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: of the So that's rare, like they don't usually do 261 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: that though usually it's as soon as the elimination happens. 262 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: You pack your bags, you're on the first flight out 263 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: of there. You don't even see anybody. Afterwards, you do 264 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: your interview and you were gone really okay, like like 265 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: like just and then the craziest thing is, once you're 266 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: out of the house, it's like you were never there 267 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: and went in the house. Like if you may make 268 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: it to the end and you talk about the people 269 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: who were there the first week, you can barely remember 270 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: them because time just it's like a weird you know 271 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: time warp in there where days seem like years. And 272 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: I mean it, honestly, I always wanted to be on, 273 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: like I always want to be on the real world 274 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: or like that's one of those those And now it 275 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: sounds awful. Nothing about this sounds good, right right, I 276 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: will say, like, I mean, you know when the problem 277 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: is is like I maybe uh stayed on a little 278 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: too long, you know, the beds that the the bunk 279 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: beds on phone mattresses were fine when I was like 280 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: twenty one, but when you're like thirty one, they're a 281 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: little more uncomfortable. And you know, and sharing room with 282 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: eight people when you have your own house back at 283 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: home just seems a little un your list, so like 284 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: things like that, those comforts. But at twenty hell yeah, 285 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: it's the best thing ever. I would say, go for 286 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: it for you. And I do not knock any of 287 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: those people who were, you know, wanting to live out 288 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: their early twenties on that shirt. Do it, go for it, Yeah, 289 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: get it. And you were you were also on the 290 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: Real World Brooklyn, which was a great season, The Real World. 291 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: Oh thank you? What was that? What was that experience? Like? 292 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: It was way different And now when I watch it 293 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: back again, I can't believe that. Uh you know, I 294 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: was ever Like it was just like a whole different 295 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: time in my life. I was so young and we 296 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: were all just kind of learning who we were and 297 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: watching that whole process on television is very interesting, almost 298 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: feels uncomfortable to watch now. It's like watching a home 299 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: video where you had a bad haircut. You're like, oh 300 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: my god, I know, I would like, when I think 301 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: back to my early twenties and think of the stuff 302 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: that I did, if there was a camera following me 303 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: around for even a couple of days, it would be 304 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: difficult for me to walk. Yeah, right at three months 305 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: or however long you're on there for. I mean, I 306 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: would not want to watch that back now, especially you know, 307 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: ten years later. And and then I like, you know, 308 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: I like just a passionate, you know, twenty one year 309 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: old who wanted to like change the world and blah 310 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: blah blah. And I just remember like being you know, 311 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: getting on my soapbox so often and just saying like 312 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: and just like sit down. You got a lot to learn, 313 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: ask some questions and stop answering them for a change. 314 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: So there was a lot of that learning in that situation. 315 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: I mean it what at least what makes you know 316 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: most of the time that makes the shows is it 317 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: seems like it's you know, you put them in a situation, 318 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: add a bunch of alcohol, take people with completely different views, 319 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: and then just kind of let it go. Like is 320 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: how much of it is is just kind of boring 321 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: compared to what actually makes the show. It is boring, 322 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: So they take these little events and kind of turn 323 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: it into a show that don't happen all the time. 324 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: And you know what, I'll give you guys, The biggest 325 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: shocker for most people is that they don't provide alcohol. 326 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: That's all on the cash. That's why. First of that 327 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: really rude. Second of all, that's stupid. So is that 328 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: just think, yeah, yeah, and you know what we do. 329 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:16,959 Speaker 1: Uh oh my god, this is going to be really 330 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: annoying because I'm like right at my gate and like 331 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: about to board. Okay, so yeah, but uh uh you know, 332 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: so um, when I was on the the very first season, 333 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: nobody really drank. That was like we just didn't do it. 334 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: We didn't. So it was like a more boring season 335 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: because you know, there wasn't as much alcohol flowing. And 336 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: each season is different, uh you know for all that. 337 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: But um, we have a special I'm on another pot. 338 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: I host my own podcast. Yeah, and we have a 339 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: bonus uh podcast that's called fifteen Minutes of Blame that 340 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: I host with another former Challenger named Susie Meister, And 341 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: the most recent episode, we talk all about alcohol on 342 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 1: the shows and how we get it and where it 343 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: comes from and how much we get and how it 344 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: gets snuck in and all all the other stuff. So 345 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: all those fun questions and you can go to patreon 346 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: dot com slash brain candy and you can listen to 347 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: that where you can just check out brain Candy on 348 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: iTunes and you can hear all of the insider info 349 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: about the challenges and all your alcoholic questions answered. Awesome. 350 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: We'll definitely tune into that one for sure. Um, if 351 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: you have to, if you have to get going, we 352 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: totally understand, Sarah, I do. It was a pleasure chatting 353 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 1: with you, guys. Thank you so much, and thank you 354 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: thanks for having my back. Of course we do. We 355 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: get you have a you have a good flight, and 356 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: uh yeah, everyone check out her podcasts, the brain Candy podcast. 357 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: It's awesome, wonderful. Thanks guys. Thanks bye. All right. I 358 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: don't know how to trap my phone out of that 359 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: conversation because I've never had one before. Most of the 360 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: most that was really cool. That was really cool to 361 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: come on. Um, I could basically talk to her for 362 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: a lot while. Yeah, I feel like every we we 363 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: would have bored other people, but it was I was fascinated. 364 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated, you know, well, I want to be when 365 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: I was younger. Here's a story I never had. I 366 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: think I may have talked abouts before. I never had 367 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: MTV in Canada. Yeah, and I didn't see MTV until 368 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: I came to the US when I was I moved 369 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: to the US when I was twenty three. Okay, so 370 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: I was the first time I saw it, and I 371 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: was like, this is the greatest fricking thing. Like it 372 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: was like the Real World, the Road Rules, TRL. It 373 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: was like all these like terrible reality shows. But I 374 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: was like, these are awesome. Like I didn't I didn't 375 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: grow up with this. And I remember I used to 376 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: like when i'd go like to work out or like 377 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: the Kick, I like put it in a VHS tape 378 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: and just press record. Yeah, I can't miss Room Raiders. Dude, 379 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: that's gonna be interesting. I always forget about that. It's 380 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: weird to think that you didn't see any of that 381 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: stuff until you were twenty three, Like I started watching that. 382 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: So the very first season of Real World, when it 383 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: was the very first one was Boston, wasn't it the 384 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: very first one? It was? It was. It was really 385 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: controversial because it was like a lot happened. Well then 386 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: like the second one was San fran which is the 387 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: one that kind of really took it up. But I 388 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: remember so that first one I was a little too young, 389 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: and then like San Francisco came on and I was 390 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: right in my like I want to say, thirteen four, 391 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: and then so I kind of started watching from that 392 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: point on. And yeah, I remember just every time when 393 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: it would be like if you want to be on 394 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: the show, like record, you got to send in it, 395 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: and I'd just be like I could do it. This 396 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: is the year, this is the year. And never did it, 397 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: thank God, because I don't think I I I don't know, man, 398 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: as just what you said, like being in your twenties 399 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: and in that situation and have being kind of a 400 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: weird situation and a lot of alcohol and and just 401 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: even the way I was then compared it like I 402 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: wouldn't want that all on tape, Like that's got to 403 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: be really weird, no, And that's like the age two 404 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: like when you when you drank, you just you're stupid. Yeah, 405 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: like not even just do it. You say stupid things 406 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: and then you're like they're like, oh man, but like 407 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: to have that on tape and have it on tape 408 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: like when it's on It's on forever no, yeah, and 409 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: those things where you know, yeah, yeah, you get drunk 410 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: one night and just say something dumb and you wake 411 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: up and you're like, oh man, that was where you're like, well, sorry, 412 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: I drank too much last night, where instead it's it's oh, 413 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: by the way, we recorded it all and everyone's gonna 414 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: say we talked with the New Real World down here, 415 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: Yet we talked last week about I didn't I've got 416 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: I got hit in the head really hard. And there's 417 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: a lot of things that I'm like, I can't remember 418 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: if we talked about this. If we didn't, yeah, well 419 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: I know, And we also talk a lot on the side, 420 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: so it's hard to remember what's on the party. Yeah, 421 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: we talked told me all about how I haven't watched 422 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: it yet, but how they just bring the first enemies 423 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: now I remember. Yeah, Yeah, it's bad. I want That's 424 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: why I wanted to ask Sarah what she thought of 425 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: the new ones, because I thought the old the old 426 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: shows were so good, like her, her season was really good. 427 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: It disappoints me that they didn't drink more. Yeah, but 428 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: there's been some season like Las Vegas. That was one 429 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: they were in the hard Rock Cafe hotel. No, they 430 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: were in the Palms, the real palms. They're all the same. 431 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: They're there in one of those hotels, and they lived 432 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: in a huge pant house, like it's gonna be crazy, 433 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: so awesome. I remember that put it was the pumps 434 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: because it was off the strip and they and that 435 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 1: kind of put that hotel on the map because I 436 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: remember going to Vegas not long after that and having 437 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: to go there because I was like, well, this is 438 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: where they went. And they went to that bar that 439 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: was at the very top of it head that head 440 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: the glass floor that you could see through. But it's 441 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: called a ghost bar or something. Yeah, I made that up. 442 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: Oh man, that was I don't know. That was really cool. 443 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad that we were able to have it. Yeah, 444 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: she's super nice. Um did she did she make a 445 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: living just off of there? Was? I had a lot 446 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: more questions than I did. Yeah, I didn't get to 447 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: ask of what I did before did after? Like she 448 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: must get so annoyed at the same questions over and over. 449 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure. I mean, it's like she seems super cool 450 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: about it, seems super cool about it. So that she 451 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: was taking a flight we didn't get all of her 452 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: questions answered, Well, we would he would have been on 453 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: here for four hours to be this podcast four hours long. 454 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: Yes it is Sarah. This whole tight. I still have 455 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: ninety more minutes a prepaid calling plan on here. This 456 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: is the the interview that is seven episodes long. Man, 457 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: what is my cell phone? Would be all gonna look 458 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: like next month? How was that was a twenty two 459 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: minute call? I'm used to even have minutes on your phone? 460 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: Twenty two minutes. It'll just be one. It'll be the 461 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: line usually were it's all blank where it says calls 462 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: and it's all blank at this time. It'll be like 463 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 1: one call. My wife will be like, who are you calling? California? 464 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: Whose numbers that? Well, you also had to call me 465 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: because we had to test it, which I didn't call 466 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: you. You You grabbed my phone and called yourself. That had 467 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: nothing to do with me. Well, that's all right, that's all. 468 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: I haven't made a phone call. I'll look at my phone. 469 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: This is a fun game I played sometimes. When's the 470 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: last time I made a phone call? Three today? That's 471 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: gotta be a huge, huge increase. So what I made 472 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: a phone call? I talked on the phone. My agent 473 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: called me a week ago. I talked to him. You 474 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: haven't talked on your phone for a week? No, I 475 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: told yeah, I told yeah, yeah, a week ago, last Monday. 476 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: Really it's it's a week. I just can't even. But 477 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm kind of looking at the last time I made 478 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: a call to someone else. Is there a symbol for 479 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: that on here? I don't know, oh right here, December seventeenth. 480 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: I called my mom on December seventeenth. Oh, my gosh, 481 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: December seventh, almost a month. The conversation was four minutes long. 482 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: That's a long time. I wonder what was wrong? Four minutes? 483 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: That's been something going on in an emergency. And then 484 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: I had I called my business partner in December eighth 485 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: before that, Wow, and we talked for twenty minutes. Oh, whoa, 486 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: So that was the longest I've been on the phone 487 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: for two months. Wow. There's exhausting, tir so tired. What 488 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: do you want to talk about, Greg, Oh, what do 489 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: you want to talk about? Well? I guess we could 490 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: talk about the football game last night. It's only if 491 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: you want to. I mean it is, Well, we had 492 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: a football game last night. There was a game, There 493 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: was a game. It's so obviously didn't turn out the 494 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: way that all of us were hoping. No, Um, but 495 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: what we're what were your thoughts? What? What was it? 496 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: What is that like for you? Disappointing? You know, we 497 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: wanted to play for three more weeks. We want to 498 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: play two more games, you know, that's our our goal, 499 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: that's the reason we do all this. But with that 500 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: being said, yesterday, I this is honestly the first time 501 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: I've said this in five years, is they were better 502 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: than us. Yesterday. They were They were just better than us. 503 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: You know, they out executed us, to outplayed us, you know, 504 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: and um, we're we're a really good team. Yeah, we're 505 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: a damn good team. And so are they. You know. 506 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: I think there's been a lot of a lot of 507 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: times you lose to certain teams and I want to 508 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: say who they are and they beat you, and you know, 509 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: it's like that should not happen. Yeah, my brother and 510 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: I went up. I always talk to my brother and 511 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: we always say, like, if you played them a hundred 512 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: times today, that's not that's realistic. But if in theory, 513 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: if you played them one hundred times, say they sometimes 514 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: we lose, Like EARLYI in the air, like if we 515 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: played that team one hundred times, you we would win 516 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: eighty to ninety times. Yea. And yesterday, the way that 517 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: they played yesterday, I was like, I don't know, how 518 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: how different was that game? Did it? Did they? Did 519 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: it look different from playing them in the regular season, 520 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: because that was a close game they were They were 521 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: good too. You know, we we had the advantage of 522 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: having playing at home, you know, which is one of 523 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: the best home field advantages, and they have a great 524 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: home field advantage too. That crowd was rocking yesterday. And 525 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: then I think it is, you know, the little things 526 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: that you know, I wouldn't say usually go our way, 527 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: but things that could have went our way went so 528 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 1: far the other way. And you know, we only we 529 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: only have ourselves to blame for them, you know, I 530 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: don't I don't think that. You know, it's easy to 531 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: point fingers of the referee and um I yelled the 532 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: referee enough yesterday. Yeah, I saw that. That was the 533 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: first time I've ever seen that in like you yeah, 534 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: And it went back to it and they're like, oh, 535 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: John's John's saying something to the official there that game. 536 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: Piece of my mind, was there any part of you 537 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: that like was worried about getting a flag. No, because 538 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: after thirteen years, I know exactly where the line is. 539 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: I know exactly where that line is, and I pushed 540 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: it right up into that line. And then I held 541 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: back and I went right back to that line a 542 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: few other times, to the point because like when you 543 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: start yelling at him and then he talks to you, 544 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: you're okay. But then when he starts yelling at you 545 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: and they're like, okay, I let back a little bit. 546 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: And so there's always a fine line. You can always 547 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: tell where where I mean, if you when you were 548 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: playing for thirteen years and you know, I have a 549 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: pretty good I don't want to say like relationship, but 550 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: I always talking to the refs yea in pre game 551 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: and stuff. You know, do you have a mutual respect 552 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: for both of you being around for a while. Yeahside, 553 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: I think I knew where the line was, and I 554 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: pushed it right to that line in it. Man, do 555 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: do refs sometimes say thing like do they in like 556 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: bring things or do they just do I mean you 557 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like do sometimes it seems like 558 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: they take a lot. Do they ever push back? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 559 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: but not never like on a personal level, or they'll 560 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: just you know, argue their side of it. Yeah, and 561 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: they always argue their sidis fact m Well, I think 562 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: you know just what you said about things that usually 563 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: go our way or things this team it seems like 564 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years is exactly that there's 565 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: just whatever needs to happen, or you know, sometimes it 566 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: seems like it might not even be plausible, and somehow 567 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: they have right over and over again, whether it's um, 568 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, misfield goals at the end of a game 569 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: or you know, an on site kick that we had 570 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: to get. The things that that aren't common have all 571 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: kind of bounced our way. And then seeing like Russell 572 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: get stepped on yesterday, it was one of those things 573 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: where you're just like, yeah that this is kind of like, oh, 574 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me. Yeah, you know, And a 575 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: lot of times you play maybe a lesser team, and 576 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: you you make mistakes or things don't go your way, 577 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: and you can you can make up for that because 578 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: you're such a good team. But we are playing against 579 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: another team that's such a good team. They make they 580 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: make you pay for those mistakes. Yeah, they for those 581 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: things that don't the bounces that don't go your way, 582 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: they make you pay. There's so many things when when 583 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: watching that game, and I'm just like, man like, uh, 584 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: you know this Russell getting stepped U that just happens, 585 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: but usually doesn't happen when you're sitting in your own 586 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: end zone. Yeah, you know what I mean? Um, and 587 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: I mean there's no one's fault. It just happens. Yeah, 588 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: or just uh near there. I think in the fourth quarter, 589 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: um matt Ron had like a kind of a weird fumble. 590 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: We're almost like underhand almost looked like he's underhand toss 591 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: in the side. I'm like, you know, on a day 592 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: where we're things are going our way, we fall on 593 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: that ball and it's like there was no one even there. Yeah, 594 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, there's nothing. It's not our fault, you know. 595 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,239 Speaker 1: But he's like on the day when things are going 596 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: your way, that just falls into our hands. Yeah. And 597 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: even you know, this team, this team, I've never been 598 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: around a team like this the last five years, the 599 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: Nucleason team. This team just like does not go away. 600 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: They don't, they don't. We're down by sixteen with I 601 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: think three minutes left. Paul Richardson catches the ball a 602 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: sixty yard when our fifty yard bomb, every single person 603 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: that sidelines like, okay, now here we go, now we 604 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: go score, we're getting on side kick and here we go. 605 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm watching the game. Everything they got and then the 606 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: ball just touches the ground, just barely, and then it 607 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: get comes all the way back and just like, man, 608 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: it seems like there was a lot of those where 609 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: it was like every time it's like okay, this we're back, 610 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: and then something it was just like, man, this is 611 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: just we just keep getting punched in the gut. Here 612 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: Hester's big. I mean that was really you know, I 613 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: don't want to say that turning point, but it's you know, 614 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,239 Speaker 1: we're up ten to seven. Hester returns that uh kick 615 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: off for a punt. Punt. Sorry, it's definitely a punt. 616 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: Uh Here returns that punt. You know, now we're thinking, man, 617 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: we go up seventeen to seven. All of a sudden, 618 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: we're rolling and then it comes all the way back. 619 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: You know, a flag, which you know, a penalty that's 620 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes they call it, sometimes they don't. You know, 621 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: it's it was even the referees discussed it for two 622 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: or three minutes. They did because they were like, this 623 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: is a big deal. I think the referee, I want, 624 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, someone wanted to pick it up. You know, 625 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: it was a hunger. Yeah, that and then and then 626 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, and then then this the snowballs where you 627 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: go we go up seventeen ten instead now it's ten 628 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: seven ten nine. Yeah, we're safety kick and now all 629 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the whole game is different. Yeah, it's interesting. 630 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: And when those things happened, you could you could see 631 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: that had it went the other way, you feel like 632 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: that that it that the kind of kind of could 633 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: have steamed rolled to where this game could have we 634 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: could have gotten up, and then instead to have that 635 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: it was kind of like, man, we just kind of 636 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: played back that whole game. Yeah. Yeah, it was tough. 637 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: It was tough, but you know, you gotta you gotta 638 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: tip your hats to them. Yeah that that is a 639 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: good football team over there. Matt Ryan is. I mean, 640 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: he's having a ridiculous season. He is. And then you 641 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: look at you know, I felt like that offense, that 642 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: offense when they were I mean, this is I'm talking 643 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: as a fan. I don't I don't watch game film 644 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: on offense defense. I watched a ton of game film 645 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: on special teams. So I'm talking kind of as a 646 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: fan too. When I when I watched this, but I 647 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: it was kind of like dropped back and look for 648 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: Julio Jones. That was kind of their offense, and like, 649 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: get let's force the ball into Julio because he's freaking 650 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: ridiculously good and Matt Ryan's ridiculously good. Didn't have a 651 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: lot of the like other like big punches in there. Yeah, 652 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: now they just have a whole arsenal of No, they 653 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: look they look good. That's a good team. They really are. 654 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: They look good. And I think I think if if 655 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: they had had more success over the last couple of years, 656 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: people would believe in them more. But because they haven't, 657 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: they're just kind of like, oh well, it's it's not 658 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: I think they in the NFC they have just as 659 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: good a chance to go all the way. Oh man, 660 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: yeah I would. I would not put it past them 661 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: to go all the way. I mean they are for real, 662 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: I guess right now, all the games being played right now, yeah, 663 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean in our time, in real time and listen 664 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: to this. You already know what happens, so you are 665 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: let me see, I'm looking at my app you're looking 666 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: at the score. Cowboys up three nothing in the first quarter, 667 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: all right, So yeah, I mean I thought it was 668 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: another good season, a ten win season, which I think 669 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: that I mean, some people might not know this, but 670 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: it is. You know, I think we've all been a 671 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: little bit spoiled around here with all these success that 672 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: we've had as players, as an organization, as fans, you know, 673 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: and to win ten games in a year, it's freaking hard, man. 674 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: It is really really hard to do. You know. There's 675 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: so many good teams out there, and it's a it's 676 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: really hard to do. So, I mean, I'm proud to 677 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: be a part of this team, proud of the guys 678 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: on this team, and I just saw that hope to 679 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: be a part of it for a few more years. Heck, yeah, 680 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: I just saw that stat again that I think you 681 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: have to really kind of wrap your head around in 682 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: that we've had five ten win seasons in a row, 683 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: and between the start of the franchise until two thousand 684 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: and eleven, we had five total. Yeah, and it was 685 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: a franchise that had a lot of success. They've been 686 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: to a super Bowl, they had Sean Alexander five largeant, 687 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,239 Speaker 1: they had Kurt Warner, they had and we had a 688 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: lot of they had, We had absolutely had Hall of 689 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: Famers stars, you know, and that just shows how hard 690 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: it is in the first whether thirty five years to 691 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: have five ten win seasons and until five in a row. Yeah, 692 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: it's so cool. It just cool to be a part of. 693 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: And I mean, and you can see you can see 694 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: the just the it's true, the change in attitude of 695 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: fans of like from that first couple of years of like, 696 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is so exciting when we're here, 697 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: and then now it's kind of like expected, like disappointment. 698 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: And I think you have to just remember what it 699 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: was like for so long of like it was really hard, 700 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: um to get to this point, even to make the playoffs, 701 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: and then to do that so many years in a row, 702 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: where it's like if we don't win the division and 703 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: have home field advantage all the way, it's it's not 704 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: a good And that's a crazy thing to have happened 705 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: in five years. I think with that being said, I 706 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: think the fans I've been so good after this loss. 707 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we had fans of the airport. I haven't heard, 708 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: you know, one thing like oh I can't believe you 709 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: guys lost or you guys blah. I haven't heard one 710 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: negative thing. Yeah, you know, I mean everyone's been so 711 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: so good. I mean, trust me, it doesn't hurt. It 712 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: hurt anyone worse than it hurts us. You know, you know, 713 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: we pour our freaking heart and soul into this, and uh, 714 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: to lose it is painful, but we'll be back. I'm 715 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm already pumped for next year. You know, we have, 716 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: you know, very few free agents, hopefully we keep them. 717 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: And you know, he got the he got the draft, 718 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: he got to you know, I was on the bus 719 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: last night and I'm just texting there. I'm like, next 720 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: year's give my best year. I'm freaking doing all this 721 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: and that she's I think he's just like calmed down. 722 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: Just maybe maybe get on the airplane and let's get 723 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 1: back to LA and then we get to start talking 724 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: about next season. But I just not, just my head 725 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: said is right now, I just can't can't. I already 726 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: can't wait, which is the good That's awesome to hear. 727 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean, and you want everyone to have that of like, Okay, 728 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: well you know what, now you let that go and 729 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: start working to next year. That's what you hope. I mean, 730 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: it's a fan you hear you want to hear is Yeah, 731 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's one of those things you 732 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: can't you learn from it. You can't do anything about 733 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: it now, you know. I think for me, like making 734 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: about making about me Greg, which it should be, is 735 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: the thing that sometimes that's starting to these things do 736 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: hurt a little bit more in a way because I'm like, 737 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how many more I have laughed, Like 738 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: how many more chance I'm gonna have like this? You know, 739 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: like I, yeah, I want to play forever. Obviously that's 740 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: not realistic. Yeah, but you know if I play, if 741 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm lucky enough to play, you know, this contract three 742 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: more years, you know, that's maybe three more chances that 743 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: I have. You know, it's tough to do, you know, 744 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: just all the major US sports, Football is the hardest 745 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: sport to make the playoffs in. Yeah, you know, thirty 746 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: two teams and twelve make it. You know, you look 747 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 1: at basketball where it's um Baseball is pretty tough too, 748 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: but basketball and foot in hockey. When I was a 749 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: kid growing up, hockey, I think there was twenty two 750 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: teams and sixteen made it. Yeah. Now I think there's 751 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: thirty teams and basketball too, but you know, it's just 752 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: tough to even make the playoffs and then even on 753 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: top of that, not that I mean it is football, 754 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: but you look at some of those others. Is you 755 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: know you have a best out of seven series or 756 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: so you actually have multiple chances to try to turn 757 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: things around. Where this is, it's it's all in, Yeah, 758 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 1: I know. And all it could take is a simple 759 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 1: few bad, bad bounces in your whole season could be over. Yeah, 760 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: I will. I will say this too. Is um, I'm 761 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: just talking as a fan of football right now. How 762 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: good are the needing of the Patriots? It absolutely tears 763 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: me to my soul to say that because I hate 764 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: them so much. I loathe them. That freaking pretty quarterback, 765 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: such a handsome devil. Maybe maybe maybe I think that 766 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: he will go down as the best football player ever, 767 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: maybe the best football player. Nothing but respect for him, 768 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna lie. Watching the game yesterday, there 769 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: was I took the joy in seeing him good. I mean, 770 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: he was upset. You don't see it that often where 771 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: he looks flush. He was mad at how many times 772 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: he was getting hit. There was over the last ten 773 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: I saw us. Over the last ten years in the 774 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: regular season, they averaged twelve point six wins a season. Yeah, 775 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: that's it's crazy ridiculous, you know. So, I mean I 776 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: have I have so much respect for that whole organization 777 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: just as a football guy. I hate them, man, But 778 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: isn't that the ultimate respect is when you've speak someone 779 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: so good that you hate them when you become And 780 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: it's interesting because that's for the first time, just for 781 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: a little bit over the last couple of years, was 782 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,959 Speaker 1: the first time being a fan here where you would 783 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: feel that where if you weren't a New England Patriot fan, 784 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: everybody hated your team. The only people who like them 785 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: were their fans, like you know. And then there's other 786 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: times where you have a team that makes it never 787 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: you know, kind of the everyone kind of gets behind him. 788 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: He's like, all right, I can root for them, and 789 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 1: let's see how they you know, I feel like someone's 790 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 1: like with Peyton Manning, it was that way, like, well, 791 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: even if you weren't a fan when he made it, 792 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, i'll root for him now. But them, 793 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 1: there's no way I want him to lose all the time. 794 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: But it's because I'm just tired of them. Yeahs, Like 795 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: for me, like as a fan, like a football player, 796 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: I just have so much respect for them, you know. 797 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: I mean, just to be able to do that for 798 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: as long as they've done it is incredible. Eight division 799 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: titles in a row. Yeah, that's sick. Yeah, crazy. So 800 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 1: you got so we're done. So this season's over. So 801 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: now head back to LA for a while and back 802 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: to LA. Back to LA tomorrow and then we start 803 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: back here April seventeenth, so three months to you know, well, 804 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: I'll probably start working out on Tuesday, so right back 805 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: at it. You know, when you're thirty five, you can't 806 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: take a month off. I don't think I could. Anybody 807 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: go crazy, but uh yeah, you know it's like when 808 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: you're when you don't do something for a while. Now, 809 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: it's like it takes you twice as long to get 810 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: back in physically. So I can't. I can't afford to 811 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: any time off. And I love it. I love all 812 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: of it. Are you excited to get out of the cold? Uh? Yeah, yeah, 813 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 1: it's been cold here. It's been it's been cold cold 814 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: December and January has It's weird because October was the 815 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: most rain ever I think for October. The November was 816 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: actually pretty nice. Ye. Then December was as cold of 817 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: December as I remember. In the nine years i've been here, 818 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: I've lived here my whole life in this is I 819 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: can't remember it. I mean maybe once or twice a 820 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: couple of years, but man, it has been cold for 821 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: a long time. My house a little bit higher up, 822 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: it's I don't know how many not it's not that 823 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: high up, but it's a few hundred feet up and 824 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: we we had snow there for about two weeks up there. Yeah, 825 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: it stayed until it rain and finally went away. But 826 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: there was some mornings up there where it's like fifteen 827 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: to eighteen twenty degrees, which I've never seen that before here. Yeah, 828 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: like fifth, I've never seen fifteen for the high, Like 829 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: it's eighteen for the high and the low, and then 830 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: the low would like that would wake up in the 831 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: morning it'd be like minus fifteen minus eighteen there, and 832 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's I've never seen that here. This I'm 833 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: believing here for nine years. I'm not trying to Actually 834 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: I've been here for forty years. But when I went 835 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: to when I went to I've been here for so 836 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: long and I don't take a lot of like, well, one, 837 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: our winters aren't that harsh, but like yeah, but then 838 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: going to someplace warm for like the winter when we 839 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: went to Hawaii. I was just like, oh man, this 840 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: is what you should do, Like this is awesome, Like 841 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: eighty in December is amazing. Like I am jealous that 842 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: you're going towards even probably what sixty seventy's spot sixty 843 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: eight tomorrow, I think. But La has been getting a 844 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: lot of rain lately. It's supposed to rain, like I 845 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: look on the forecast like four or five days in 846 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: the next five which is great for Elia because it's 847 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: been such a drought and it's been actually just this 848 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: rainfall in the last few weeks has been taking some 849 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: of the communities out of the I saw it was 850 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 1: the first time which I know, like Dallas was in 851 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: a bag or Dallas or some place in Texas they 852 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: were in a big drought a couple years ago, and 853 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: this had like a spring where just like rain like 854 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: crazy for a week and I took him out of 855 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: the drought. Yeah, I didn't realize it was that easy. 856 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: Just just needs some rains, need some rain. What's this 857 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: drought business about? Why don't you just give some rain? 858 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: Loser loser? Um, okay, well I guess that. So we're 859 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: gonna right now, we're gonna kind of figure out what 860 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We are going that's a wrap. We're 861 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,720 Speaker 1: going to the rap party right now, Rap partys, Tinos, 862 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: rap party. See us there, someone listen to next Thursday? 863 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: Where are you guy this now? We've already gone there 864 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: and had a good time. Yeah, probably I wanted to 865 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: pull taps. Uh. We will. We're gonna figure out how 866 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: we're gonna keep doing this. Uh. We're gonna try to 867 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: do it while John's down in La. Probably go down 868 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: to every other week. Um, because we do enjoy doing it, 869 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: and we don't want you all. We don't want to 870 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: take four months off, So we'll figure that out. It 871 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: might take us a week or two to get the 872 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: next one out, but we will. We'll be back in 873 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: doing this. Um. Yes, and we appreciate you guys listening. 874 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 1: It's been awesome. Twenty maybe twenty episodes. Yeah, and we've 875 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: gotten a great response and everyone's been I think kind No, Yeah, 876 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: we've I've been amazed with it. Just how many people 877 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,439 Speaker 1: have listened and we have. I mean, I I run 878 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, the Twitter for the most part. Um. I 879 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: like I said, I show things to John when we 880 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: get cool things send in and stuff, but I run it. 881 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: And I'm just amazed how many people like write, you know, 882 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: really nice messages and m messages on Facebook and things. 883 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 1: It's been really cool. It's really cool too, just because 884 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: of how terrible social media is with the crap that 885 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: people say. So we appreciate you guys saying nice things. Yeah, 886 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm sick of the crap. So with that, we we 887 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: appreciate you. This has been kind of our first season 888 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 1: doing this here at the vMac, and Um said, we'll 889 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: take a week or two off. We'll we'll get a 890 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: schedule back where we will continue to do this. Um, 891 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: but please make sure that you follow us on Twitter 892 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: with at kick It with J and G and on 893 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: Facebook Kicking It with John and Greg. We'll keep you 894 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: posted as to kind of what we're doing. We will 895 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: still have a listener party, but we're gonna do it 896 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: probably when when he gets back for uh not before 897 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 1: he leaves. Gonna get krunk, get get turned, as the 898 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: kids say, I'm gonna get turned my kid ever says 899 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: get turned. I'm just gonna I'll teach both of your 900 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: kids and say turned with my kids again. After just 901 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: that one time, I was like, in Scarlett just listens 902 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: to you for no reason. Scarlett's gonna be same turned 903 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 1: by two? Is they absolutely not? Absolutely? You will? Well, 904 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: ain't got anything else do you want to say for uh, 905 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 1: just that your good daughters are gonna be talking about 906 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 1: getting turn and that, uh, you know, thanks for listening. 907 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: We love you, we will love your. Peace out m 908 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: hm