WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 102222 Do We Really Listen to Black Women? (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of Civic scipher I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Rams's job.

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<v Speaker 2>He is joh I am q war. Together we are

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<v Speaker 2>Civic Sciphering. That's the truth stick around. We've got a

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<v Speaker 2>great show lined up for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Today. We are going to inform you about a situation

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<v Speaker 1>that is taking place in Kansas City where black women

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<v Speaker 1>were ignored for some time and the consequences that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people may not consider that come into play when black

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<v Speaker 1>women are ignored. In fact, you may not even know

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<v Speaker 1>that this is a real thing. You know, we mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that we touched on a couple times on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about, yes, we have healthcare disparities, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how mortality rates, maternal health care especially, and today we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be looking into policeing. We actually did talk

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<v Speaker 1>about missing while black, the phenomenon surrounding the Gabby Petito thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the missing white woman syndrome where the media jumps on

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<v Speaker 1>a missing person if she is a woman, was white,

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<v Speaker 1>of a certain age, and often enough blonde. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you are black and a woman and go missing, oftentimes

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<v Speaker 1>there's no coverage. So today we will be listening to

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<v Speaker 1>black women. This story came from our show producer, Miss

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<v Speaker 1>Maggie aka Maggie Be knowing she do, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to listen to at least that one black

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<v Speaker 1>woman today and bring some attention to this situation. Further

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<v Speaker 1>on in the show, we were going to be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the La City Council leading that ended up turning

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<v Speaker 1>racist to something we have to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just asking you out everybody else, I'm just talking

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<v Speaker 2>to Ramses.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think racist.

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<v Speaker 2>People ever get tired of being racist? But they take

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<v Speaker 2>a break at home that they could they take a lunch.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gotta be a full time job, fifteen. It has

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<v Speaker 2>to be an exhausting undertaking.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm absolutely sure that it is, and we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to figure out why this happened and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more on for you to stick around for it.

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<v Speaker 1>But first and foremost uh q's favorite segment in fact

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<v Speaker 3>UH.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to ice Que the city of Compton. I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't get me started, because ram is from Compton.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be getting excited. I'm gonna just read. The certation

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<v Speaker 2>establishes the league as part of the by Black network

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<v Speaker 2>and distinguishes the Big Three as the first and only

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<v Speaker 2>professional sports league to be certified. It says a quote,

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<v Speaker 2>myself and the entire league are honored to be officially

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<v Speaker 2>certified by by Black and the US Black Chambers. This

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<v Speaker 2>is from ice Q, the Big Three CEO and founder.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote From day one, league has been dedicated to providing

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<v Speaker 2>of black business owners. Supporting black enterprise is a long

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<v Speaker 2>lifelong passion of mind and the Big Three, and we

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<v Speaker 2>will continue to build upon its success and uplift other

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<v Speaker 2>black entrepreneurs.

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<v Speaker 1>En quote.

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<v Speaker 2>For more information, visit Big Three dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to ICEQ. Shout out to ICEQ. I threw

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<v Speaker 1>up the west side to yay yay. You know, it

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<v Speaker 1>is one thing to play the game, it's another thing

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<v Speaker 1>to own the board. The lesson that we've learned and

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<v Speaker 1>an announcement will make very soon and be all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on, today, we have to talk about how America

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<v Speaker 1>and in particular, the police continue to fail Black women

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<v Speaker 1>in particular. We know that the police are not perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but today we're going to center black women

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<v Speaker 1>because often enough, Black women.

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<v Speaker 3>Get the worst in terms of outcomes, the most of

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<v Speaker 3>the brunt when it comes to most everything, especially bad stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we're trying to change that narrative. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>everything bad should happen everybody, and everything good shoud happen everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody deserve to have a fully balanced life. If anything,

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<v Speaker 1>only good things should happen to everyone. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but if there's.

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<v Speaker 2>A group that only good things should happen, to go

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<v Speaker 2>ahead and say it, like, come on, black they deserve it.

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<v Speaker 2>They lead in the nation and everything and every statistical

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<v Speaker 2>category that shows greatness and triumph and perseverance, perseverance and resilience. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>black women are leading the nation. And we discovered recently

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<v Speaker 2>the world and a lot of outstanding categories business, enterprise, entrepreneurship,

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<v Speaker 2>college education, college graduation.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet and still come on, there are many many

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<v Speaker 1>categories that are the worst of the worst, that are

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<v Speaker 1>black women lead in as well. And these things need

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<v Speaker 1>to be remedied because there's historical.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's no fault of their own, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>exactly on those bad categories.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna tell a story here. Today's story we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to pull from the Guardian. Okay, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>little git, this is a little grizzly here and there,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's some trigger warnings here, so if you are

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<v Speaker 1>sensitive to abuse, just giving your heads up here. So

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<v Speaker 1>from a Guardian. Woman who escapes month long captivity says

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<v Speaker 1>other black women killed by abductor. That's the headline, right.

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<v Speaker 1>A twenty two year old black woman in Missouri who

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<v Speaker 1>escaped after a white man abducted, tortured, and held her

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<v Speaker 1>captive for weeks in a basement has said several other

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<v Speaker 1>black women were killed by her captor. Less than a

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<v Speaker 1>month after police dismissed community concerns about a serial killer

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<v Speaker 1>as completely unfounded. The woman escaped on October seventh, after

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<v Speaker 1>about a month in captivity, still wearing a metal collar

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<v Speaker 1>locked with a padlock that authorities had to remove. She

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<v Speaker 1>told Kansas City police that thirty nine year old Timothy M.

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<v Speaker 1>Hazlet had imprisoned her in a basement room in Excelsior Springs,

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<v Speaker 1>a city just northeast of Kansas City, where he whipped

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<v Speaker 1>and raped her repeatedly. She escaped while Hazlitt was dropping

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<v Speaker 1>off a child at school, and she sought help from

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<v Speaker 1>neighbors when she told that her friends did not make

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<v Speaker 1>it out and were killed by Hazlit. Around the time

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<v Speaker 1>she went missing, several prominent community leaders raised concerns about

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<v Speaker 1>the disappearance of multiple black women and girls. So I

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<v Speaker 1>want to start, I want to stop right here, because

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<v Speaker 1>this is really we're talking about a story. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just a story. We don't we don't really

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<v Speaker 1>focus on stories unless they help us illustrate trends or

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<v Speaker 1>narratives that we are trying to establish in the minds

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<v Speaker 1>of our allies. Right, So, we wouldn't tell a story

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<v Speaker 1>just to tell a story unless it was reflecting of

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<v Speaker 1>a trend. And I think this last sentence I read

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<v Speaker 1>really suggests what we're trying to convey in this segment,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll read that again to you. Around the time

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<v Speaker 1>she went missing, several prominent community leaders raised concerns about

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<v Speaker 1>the disappearance of multiple black women and girls. And so

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<v Speaker 1>if you back up a little bit further in that

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<v Speaker 1>reading that I just did, remember that the police dismissed

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<v Speaker 1>community concerns about a serial killer as completely unfounded. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what you see here is folks not listening

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<v Speaker 1>and black women being kind of in the middle of it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that this is something that is if

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<v Speaker 1>I were to say that it was taught, that might

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<v Speaker 1>not be the right way to say it, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>no one teaches you to ignore black women. That you

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<v Speaker 1>don't go to a class in school. Your parents don't

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<v Speaker 1>sit you now if you're a normal, reasonable person from

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<v Speaker 1>a background, normal background that's not like super racist or

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<v Speaker 1>anything crazy like that. No one's your mom or your

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<v Speaker 1>dad don't sit you down and say, hey, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you ignore black women when you get older. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think that this country has a tendency to espouse certain women,

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<v Speaker 1>look a certain way, to romanticize or you know, amplify

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<v Speaker 1>and jealousize certain women. And there are other women who

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<v Speaker 1>completely get ignored and so if I said Disney Princess,

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<v Speaker 1>what pops into your mind?

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<v Speaker 2>Cinderella.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now here's another thing. This happened to me last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in a grocery store in a place called

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<v Speaker 1>Fountain Hills, Arizona, right, And I was walking through the

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store and I ended up in an aisle where

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<v Speaker 1>they sell beauty products or whatever. I don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>be on this aisle whatsoever, but I just was there.

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<v Speaker 1>While I'm there. You know, if you know me, you

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<v Speaker 1>know I got all this hair. So I'm always checking

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<v Speaker 1>for the latest conditioner because it does get a little

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<v Speaker 1>cocoa pappy up top, you know what I'm saying. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you all know what that means. Nappy

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<v Speaker 1>rhymes with cocoa paps. You know what I'm saying, naps

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<v Speaker 1>coco paps. So anyway, so I'm looking for some conditioner,

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<v Speaker 1>just new brands, you know, stuff I might want to

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<v Speaker 1>try in the future, just to kind of ease my

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<v Speaker 1>way when it comes to coman and maintaining this crown

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<v Speaker 1>of mine. Right and right next to that is the makeup.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm looking at the makeup as my hand is

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<v Speaker 1>reaching for the conditioner bottles. I'm like kind of going

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<v Speaker 1>through them, and I'm like, WHOA, Okay, I get it. Makeup.

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<v Speaker 1>You're supposed to put it on, and it's supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>match your skin, right. I don't wear makeup, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>something just clicked in my I never really thought of

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<v Speaker 1>it before, you know, but this is kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>that makeup is for. I don't know what the name

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<v Speaker 1>of the type of makeup it is, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>the makeup that was the color of your It was

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<v Speaker 1>like human flesh colored like a whole range, and I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't find a color that would match my skin right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, what WHOA hit me like a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of bricks. They built this whole thing without me

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<v Speaker 1>and mine or people like me and mind. Now, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a woman, so of course they didn't have me

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<v Speaker 1>in mind. But if I was my sister, who is

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<v Speaker 1>my same skin tone, she wouldn't not have found her

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<v Speaker 1>a makeup product that would have worked for her in

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<v Speaker 1>that store. Now this happened to me yesterday. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not know that I would be telling that story today,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, Maggie brought this story for us, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know we're talking about it. But little subtle things

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<v Speaker 1>like that here and there. I think accumulate over time

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<v Speaker 1>where we recognize, Okay, these people get get celebrated, lifted

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<v Speaker 1>up in these other people we just we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that they're in the shadows of our minds, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I piggyback?

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<v Speaker 1>Almost say?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I push back? No? No, go ahead, but I'll

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<v Speaker 2>say piggyback. And I think you'll get why you chose

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<v Speaker 2>one term of the open shirt. You said that America

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't teach or we don't teach maybe into in your

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<v Speaker 2>yeah black women, right and maybe not? And so what's

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<v Speaker 2>so as much as you go into a class and

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<v Speaker 2>the instructions are.

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<v Speaker 1>To do so.

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<v Speaker 2>Once upon a time, I had a disagreement with my

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<v Speaker 2>children's okay, and raised my voice, and my son said, Dad,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't be mean to my mom if in that

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<v Speaker 2>moment I don't apologize to him and her and just

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<v Speaker 2>out of sure ego and anger or whatever, try to

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<v Speaker 2>justify the way that I spoke to her. Aren't I

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<v Speaker 2>teaching him that it's okay to speak to wow and

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<v Speaker 2>or other women like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So I didn't instruct him, Hey, this is how you

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<v Speaker 2>talk to a woman. But but that moment, my example

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<v Speaker 2>to him is I was upset, so I can do this. Then, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>when I get mad, I go to my mom, to

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<v Speaker 2>my teacher. That's how I got to do it. So

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<v Speaker 2>in that moment, I don't care how upset I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to humble myself and I have to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>And however her and I are going to resolve this.

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<v Speaker 2>It can't be like that because I cannot tell him

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<v Speaker 2>how much I love or her how much I love her,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not just how he feel how she felt.

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<v Speaker 2>If she would have said, you shouldn't speak to me

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<v Speaker 2>that way, I can't be like, well, I'm mad, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I can't. But then I'm now teaching her

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<v Speaker 2>and my son that this is the version of me

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<v Speaker 2>they should accept. The circumstances don't matter, especially for the

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<v Speaker 2>five year old who I just tried to explain to

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<v Speaker 2>that that was okay. So even though I'm not giving

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<v Speaker 2>him explicit instruction to do so, if in that moment

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<v Speaker 2>I do anything other than tell him your daddy is

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<v Speaker 2>wrong and your daddy is sorry, and then to his

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<v Speaker 2>mother in front of him, tell her that I was

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<v Speaker 2>wrong and that I'm sorry, I'd be teaching my son, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>when you get upset, you can get that off, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. So sure, there's not a class

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<v Speaker 2>that says so, but when the entire society does it,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody looks around and accepts it. Okay, we've now taught

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<v Speaker 2>everyone that this is acceptable behaviors not explicitly instructed.

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<v Speaker 1>So, first off, incredible example. I'm glad you shared that.

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<v Speaker 1>That was as spot on as anything you've ever said.

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<v Speaker 1>The next thing I want to say is that I

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<v Speaker 1>think to your point, what we have is exactly that

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<v Speaker 1>we have grown up in a world. All of us

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<v Speaker 1>have grown up in a world where we tend to

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<v Speaker 1>run after a spouse, celebrate whatever things that look a

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<v Speaker 1>certain way, and ignore step over, you know, block out

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<v Speaker 1>things that don't look a certain way, people that don't

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<v Speaker 1>look a certain way, right, And the way to remedy

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<v Speaker 1>that is to discipline ourselves, each of us in our

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<v Speaker 1>own mind, in our own paths in life, to recognize

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<v Speaker 1>the humanness in everyone that we see. Now, I obviously

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<v Speaker 1>am super rainbows and unicorns that since the day I

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<v Speaker 1>met Yeah, that's that's me.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe one of the first things I ever said to

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<v Speaker 2>him in front of other people man, you really see

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<v Speaker 2>the world as rainbows and butterflies. This was like a

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<v Speaker 2>month into our friendship. That's an standing outside downtown in

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<v Speaker 2>front of what's now his nightclub. But at the time

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<v Speaker 2>we were just patrons, and all of us laughed really

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<v Speaker 2>hard because it was so obviously true. Ramses does see

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<v Speaker 2>the world with a different pair of glasses, and the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of us, sure it is to be applauded though,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be like him when I grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that night I was doing my guitar thing

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<v Speaker 1>walking down the street and then yes I did Endaji and.

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<v Speaker 2>Beanwa with us that night too, shout out to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Fellas, and I ended up buying that nightclub. Absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, yeah, back to this. The uh, the crazy

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<v Speaker 1>part about this is that through subtle things like that

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<v Speaker 1>like you mentioned, you know, examples of folks doing things

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<v Speaker 1>or not doing things in front of their children and

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<v Speaker 1>in front of each other. You know, you were born, you,

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<v Speaker 1>our listener, were born into a society that just does this.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're not faulting you, but we are charging you

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<v Speaker 1>with changing that. Fixing it right. A black woman missing

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<v Speaker 1>deserves the same type of love exposure et cetera as

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<v Speaker 1>anyone else. A black woman who says there is a

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<v Speaker 1>problem deserves the same type of response, you know, grace, latitude,

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<v Speaker 1>everything that comes along with being a human being. They

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<v Speaker 1>deserve that too, right, And as I read more into

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<v Speaker 1>this story, you'll see that that just simply wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>case for a very long time, and the consequences of

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<v Speaker 1>that are dire. If you are a person who believes

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<v Speaker 1>that human life is special and precious and valuable and sacred,

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<v Speaker 1>then you should respond to this in the same way

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<v Speaker 1>that anyone else would. And if you've had to be

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<v Speaker 1>led to this point to say, oh my gosh, don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel bad, because we black men are not immune to

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<v Speaker 1>that either. Right. I had to get into media. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do a story on Gabby Patito to

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<v Speaker 1>find out, well, you know what, As it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard of Oh, there's that many missing black

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<v Speaker 1>women and Native women. Native women are go missing. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to the numbers. But I didn't even know that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I worked in media for years, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So it's not we're not faulting anybody, but

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<v Speaker 1>we now have now that we know this, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to listen. And we have to hold other people accountable

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<v Speaker 1>so that they listen. And we have to prioritize our

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<v Speaker 1>sisters and our mothers. And you know what, I would

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<v Speaker 1>bet my life at the end of it, when I

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<v Speaker 1>go to heaven, that old woman who looks akin to

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Westenberg or my grandma or something will be sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on that throne in the clouds as God herself. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? That would not surprise me at all,

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<v Speaker 1>right one bit. And I do my best to cultivate

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<v Speaker 1>my relationships with especially with older black women accordingly. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'll continue, she told the Kansas City Police. Oh sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Last month, the Kansas City Defender, a nonprofit newsroom, published

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<v Speaker 1>a video of Bishop Tony Caldwell, saying that he had

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<v Speaker 1>received information that the missing women had all been kidnapped

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<v Speaker 1>from Prospect Avenue in Kansas City. That police dismissed the

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<v Speaker 1>concerns is completely unfounded, saying in a statement, there is

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<v Speaker 1>no basis to support this rumor. The case is just

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<v Speaker 1>the latest example of a predominantly white police force refusing

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<v Speaker 1>to take seriously reports of missing and murdered Black, brown,

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<v Speaker 1>and Indigenous victims, especially women and girls. Now, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to take a moment and shout out the Kansas City Defender.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a very special individual who founded and runs that.

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<v Speaker 1>We had the pleasure of sitting down with him and

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<v Speaker 1>talking with him. His name is Ryan Sorel, and he

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<v Speaker 1>is a person who fights the good fight. If you

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<v Speaker 1>get your news about the country or you know anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that, I know it sounds like Kansas City, and

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<v Speaker 1>you might not be in Kansas. In fact, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure that we have any stations in Kansas. So you

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<v Speaker 1>definitely are in Kansas if you're listening to this or Missouri.

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<v Speaker 1>So please search out this publication because it is not

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<v Speaker 1>just Kansas. It is just an awesome voice to have,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is a national publication just based in Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>has since gone national. Kansas City, Kansas City, Missouri, Kansas City, Missouri. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So this next part comes from NPR kidnapping investigation raises

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<v Speaker 1>new questions about reports of missing black women. The NPR

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed Ryan Sorel at the Kansas City Defender, and the

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<v Speaker 1>reporter asked, what is the hope of the community about

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<v Speaker 1>where this investigation is going to go from here at

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<v Speaker 1>this point? And Ryan said, they did not reach out

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<v Speaker 1>to us to ask where do we get the information.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't reach out to the bishop that initially made

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<v Speaker 1>the video, They didn't reach out to any community members.

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<v Speaker 1>The black community generally was silenced in essence because of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that was also deeply concerning to us. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is another aspect that is deeply troubling about the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>To be frank and honest, we are doing investigatory work ourselves,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's truly how this information came about, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was from us in the community. In other words, no

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<v Speaker 1>police support, no police help. You know, police officers have

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<v Speaker 1>police departments rather have like investigators and detectives and that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff. Well, the Kansas City Defender had to

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<v Speaker 1>be their own investigators and detectives and so forth to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the bottom of this story. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>to say that that has doesn't happen elsewhere, but we

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<v Speaker 1>see things like this happen in black communities, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why black media is very important, which is why black

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<v Speaker 1>listening to black voices is very important. You know, because

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<v Speaker 1>the power structures that exist in the world exist to

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<v Speaker 1>support the movement of money, and at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, the movement of money benefits the wealthy, and

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<v Speaker 1>for those of us who cannot see that, we think

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<v Speaker 1>that these things exist independent of cases like this. And

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<v Speaker 1>the truth is they ignore things like this because it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't serve their ultimate agenda, which is to keep people

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<v Speaker 1>with money and power in those positions. Almost nobody knows that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the wildest thing. Now, I do want to share

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<v Speaker 1>some statistics with you, So this comes from CNN. According

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<v Speaker 1>to a twenty twenty one FBI data report, black people

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<v Speaker 1>make up thirty one percent of missing persons reports, but

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<v Speaker 1>only fourteen percent of the US population. Okay, so that

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<v Speaker 1>means that Black people go missing at nearly a third

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<v Speaker 1>of Black people make up the missing person's report, only

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen percent of the population White people.

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<v Speaker 2>To say that, again, a third of the people missing

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<v Speaker 2>are black. That's what I'm trying to, like to start,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>White people meanwhile, make up fifty four percent of missing

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<v Speaker 1>persons reports and seventy six percent of the US population.

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<v Speaker 1>So black people go missing at higher rates, you know, proportionately,

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<v Speaker 1>an insanely higher rate. And some black families are still

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<v Speaker 1>searching for answers even after their missing loved one is found, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how did this happen for so long? And a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times after a very long time, if you find

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<v Speaker 1>a missing person, the circumstances are not good anymore. You

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<v Speaker 1>just find them, you know, they don't get to pick

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<v Speaker 1>up and continue. The FBI is National Crime and Information

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<v Speaker 1>Center says the largest disparity among Black people make up

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<v Speaker 1>about a third acting active missing persons, and those numbers

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<v Speaker 1>look like this twenty nine thousand, three hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>seven people versus white people which is fifty thousand, five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty four, Asian twenty one hundred and nine,

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<v Speaker 1>and Native Americans which is one thousand, five hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four. And also the NCIC includes people who identify

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<v Speaker 1>as Hispanic or Latino in the white category. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a real thing. You know, we're not just

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, you know, the people that go missing at

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<v Speaker 1>higher rates, but we're also talking about the people that

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<v Speaker 1>don't get listened to, they don't get reported in the news.

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<v Speaker 1>And when that happens, I think the result of that

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<v Speaker 1>rather is that if you were a predator, you would

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps pray on the most vulnerable, the people who are

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<v Speaker 1>least likely to get a strong reaction from news, strong

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<v Speaker 1>reaction from the community, strong reaction from those with power

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<v Speaker 1>and influence. Oftentimes people with power and influence don't look

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<v Speaker 1>like us. But the victims of these sorts of kidnappings

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, this type of brutality, they look like

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<v Speaker 1>our women and children, They look like Native women and children,

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<v Speaker 1>they look like you know, marginalized groups. And so again

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<v Speaker 1>having a bit of empathy, giving a bit of a voice,

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<v Speaker 1>and listening, listening. This is about listening to black women,

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<v Speaker 1>and this has kind of been the charge of this

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<v Speaker 1>whole segment. Listening goes a long way. And we mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>healthcare and that's another one that you know, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people fighting that battle on that front.

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<v Speaker 1>And so again we just thought that kind of bringing

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<v Speaker 1>this to your attention today would certainly help paint the

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<v Speaker 1>picture a bit further than we've been able to do

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<v Speaker 1>before and now