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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from

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Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 1: What is something you think is overrated? Okay, this may

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Speaker 1: be alarming to you guys. I think kombucha tastes like shit.

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Speaker 1: I think it's disgusting, and people have gone, no, this

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Speaker 1: one's good. Try this. They're all trash trash. Is it

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Speaker 1: the sort of vinegary aspect to it? That? Of course,

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Speaker 1: it's the vinegar tastes like shit? Yet vinegar chips, why

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Speaker 1: oh I love so don't come after my selt vinegar

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Speaker 1: chip come in. I get in the context of some

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Speaker 1: of you drink right, you might not want that little bite,

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Speaker 1: but I get it because sour taste and a lot

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Speaker 1: of like jack and eese food. So I get it,

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Speaker 1: but I'm never seeking it. But especially when you go

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Speaker 1: out like on the East Side, have you been like

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Speaker 1: little parties or they're like it's all it's all bootch cocktails.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, no, waterfucker, I don't want jacket. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: something that completely missed me. They do booch cocktail out here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it already yeah, it already tastes like something that's fermented,

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Speaker 1: like that went bad. Well, yeah, you could get a

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Speaker 1: little buzz, you know, if you got like if you

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Speaker 1: got the heavy kombuches, but not like but now they're

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Speaker 1: really making it a cocktails always. One time, when I

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Speaker 1: was a kid, I took h orange juice on a

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Speaker 1: camping trip. It was out in the sun. It went

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Speaker 1: bad and it like turned on it. And that's what

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Speaker 1: kombouche is always reminded me of, is the taste of

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Speaker 1: when I took a big old gulp of like warm

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Speaker 1: boy Scout prune boy Scout Pruno. I understand drinking it

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Speaker 1: for its health benefits. I don't know what those are.

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Speaker 1: Explain to me. But if that's like if you're like no,

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Speaker 1: it's you know, it's taking like a shot of wheat

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Speaker 1: grass or whatever. But when people are like no, it's good,

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Speaker 1: it's like that now you've gone too far. I'm willing

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Speaker 1: to meet you there. That they're antioxidants or something. Somebody

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Speaker 1: ruined coconut water for me by saying that it tastes

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Speaker 1: like it's been in somebody else's mouth, and I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's true. It really does taste like it's like already

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Speaker 1: just hung around in the mouth for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And kombucha has like a lugi in it for the

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Speaker 1: most part, like it has like a little piece of

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Speaker 1: saliva hanging it. What do you talk about? Have you

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Speaker 1: never looked at the kombucha like, man, because every time

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Speaker 1: someone offers it, I mean, I have a sip yo

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Speaker 1: and that's it. You would look at it and think

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Speaker 1: it it is basically like iced tea. But if you

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Speaker 1: pour that ship, there's like, yeah, it's fucking gross, nasty. Though.

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Speaker 1: People on the rest of the country like what are

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Speaker 1: they talking where? Planning about bad? First class? And you

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Speaker 1: know what this is getting You're pleased and this is

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Speaker 1: what it's like. Yeah for people, I don't. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: it's everybody drinks it around the country in some places. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's just it's I'm sorry, it's just the cocktails.

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Speaker 1: That's what I had to draw the line for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, no, do not try and make this. No

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Speaker 1: but mixing as a mixer that's disgusted. Are you SERI?

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Papa John finally. Okay, So do you

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Speaker 1: remember in August we talked about that quote unquote secret

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Speaker 1: video it took when he went to like a board

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Speaker 1: meeting of pop corporate room meeting, and it was the

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Speaker 1: most produced thing that you've ever seen. And clearly there

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Speaker 1: was a thing that they were alluding to called a

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Speaker 1: papa dia or like, what the fuck is this now?

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Speaker 1: Hark and behold death it is papadilla has arrived. And

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Speaker 1: it looks like I don't have flat bread it looks

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Speaker 1: like a soft taco moulita kind of thing. It looks

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Speaker 1: like a taco bell. Uh. Just they wanted to know

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Speaker 1: off top, this is not a rip off of the casida, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's actually it's called the papadilla. Yeah, but it's not

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Speaker 1: a take on that, Okay. It's actually inspired by the

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Speaker 1: pia dina, an Italian flat bread sandwich from the historic

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Speaker 1: Romagna area of northern Italy. Okay, So even though it

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Speaker 1: sounds phonetically more like case idia, God forbid, Papa John's

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Speaker 1: associate themselves with Mexican quisine. They're just getting over a

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Speaker 1: racism pr problem and they're like, it's not it's from

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Speaker 1: the old country. Wouldn't it be papadina papadina now, because

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Speaker 1: then they're gonna be like that, maybe that didn't test well,

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Speaker 1: you know how they fucking you know how they It's

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Speaker 1: meant explicitly papa pe yea, the alliterative quality of that name,

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Speaker 1: that word, I think really papapilla, pia, papa whoa, that's

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Speaker 1: the thing, Mama Mia, papapilla. Yeah, diarrhea, that's a thing.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. And we were saying, like folks folk

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Speaker 1: song from the old times. Yeah, So they're offering it

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Speaker 1: like they're they're offering it in four different varieties. There's

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Speaker 1: Italian with Alfredo, spicy Italian sauce, Solami, mozzarella and banana peppers.

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Speaker 1: Good thing that chefs kiss and she came out for

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Speaker 1: the Philly cheese steak. That one makes more sense. When

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Speaker 1: Philly sauce. What's Philly sauce? Jack? Yeah, probably was I guess, yes,

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Speaker 1: I would. If I had to guess, I would say

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Speaker 1: it is mayonnaise, it's Philly sauce. Well, just based on

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Speaker 1: every execution of Philly cheese steak that I've had from

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Speaker 1: a mass chi Papa John, I was like, and here's

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Speaker 1: the and here's the mayo. Here's like hot steak, like

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Speaker 1: hot wet steak, some manner of cheese and mayonnaise which

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Speaker 1: the heat just turns into translucent grease film like anyway,

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Speaker 1: then there's if you're lucky, then they have grilled chicken

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Speaker 1: and bacon, chicken onions, bacon, montrol barbis. Okay, that's straightforward

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Speaker 1: meat pat Pepperoni spicy, that's the only one that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Pepperoni pizza, sauce, mozzarella Talian seasoning. They have spicy meatballs.

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Speaker 1: I'd work with that one. Actually, you think it's really

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Speaker 1: gonna be specie spicy though probably not. No, no, because

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Speaker 1: it's boardroom spicy, which just means like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: did you crack some pepper over this hot hot hot

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Speaker 1: for one second? Yeah, I mean, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: all credit due to like every great American company knowing, look,

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Speaker 1: we have a racism pr crisis, will hire a person

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Speaker 1: of color to be the new face, and all is forgiven.

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Speaker 1: The shout out to check forgetting the bag. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah uh. They definitely definitely enough grade from from what

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Speaker 1: the sweaty man, he's just a wet what was large

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Speaker 1: bloated racist what was his static and he's like at

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Speaker 1: forty pizzas and thirty days. Yeah, yeah, I've been having this. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was something like I went to college to what's

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Speaker 1: your point? But he was like talking about how as

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Speaker 1: like he's been evaluating them. He's been doing that as

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Speaker 1: like part of his like overall commitment to Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was like the world. Yeah, he's a part of his job.

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Speaker 1: He just does it as like a it's a calling. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what he was trying to establish. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just to keep an eye on like our pizza offerings

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Speaker 1: like that that we have as fast food and does

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Speaker 1: he eat does he eat just Papa John's branded pizza

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Speaker 1: or is he I think he's doing deep recon and

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Speaker 1: all the well that I've had fifty pizzas and thirty

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Speaker 1: days thing was a run up to him criticizing the

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Speaker 1: Papa John's pizza. So he was trying to act like, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not just taking shots because I'm an angry guy

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Speaker 1: who you know, fired for good reasons. I had fifty

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Speaker 1: pizzas in thirty days and it gave me diarrhea. Something

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Speaker 1: needs to be done. What's going on? Papa crisis? Much? Uh?

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Speaker 1: And he also in that same interview, talked about how

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Speaker 1: a day of reckoning is coming, which is it was

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Speaker 1: like that it should be keeping any out. He's sweaty,

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Speaker 1: pizza bean, He's gonna walk out at the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and after like the field and being like, yeah, your

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Speaker 1: day is up here has arrived. I've had forty pizzas

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Speaker 1: in terrible diarrhea in my weird coat. I was building

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Speaker 1: to forty pizzas in three days. We need to keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on Papa but shout out to Shack and

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Speaker 1: the new Papa John's. And somewhere in this this article

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Speaker 1: they talk about how it's because it's not a flatbread thing.

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Speaker 1: They say, we use Papa John's classic crust that everybody

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Speaker 1: loves to make this abomination and so that's just pizza.

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Speaker 1: Come on, we were doing so good man. I guess Pop,

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Speaker 1: what are they gonna do now? Don't don't bring this

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Speaker 1: truth out into the light for everyone. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: wonder if they're making it on a panini press. I

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Speaker 1: don't know either way the marks on. Yeah, maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: I big grill it. Then it would be a little

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Speaker 1: bit different than the toaster conveyor belt that they send

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Speaker 1: other pizzas throw Yeah, a little more nuance to this idea.

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Speaker 1: Don't just say it out truly, there might be something different,

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Speaker 1: different traditional pizza's life. Let's talk about Wendy's breakfast. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank god, let's switch gears to something really invigorating. I

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Speaker 1: love a good fast food breakfast. Okay, Mickey D's is

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Speaker 1: still in my number one, but Wendy's is out here.

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Speaker 1: As they say, they are unleashing new breakfast materials I

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Speaker 1: did not know about. Now, some people apparently may have

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Speaker 1: been in limited markets, but this new ship. Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: just looking at this bacon eader breakfast sandwich. It looks

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Speaker 1: like a guaranteed heart attack by bite three? What about it?

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Speaker 1: Makes it a breakfast sandwich? The bacon eader breakfast because

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Speaker 1: it has egg and a sausage patty, but then everything

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Speaker 1: else bacon no, no, no no. And it's on a

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Speaker 1: burger bun though, yeah, huh. What about the So that's

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Speaker 1: a biscuit that has fried chicken on it? Did I hear?

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Speaker 1: Because it has bacon, it's breakfast. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well

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Speaker 1: it's like a chicken biscuit, you know. That's that's how

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's how we navigate that one? Love the context?

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Speaker 1: Did I hear they were going to be doing frosties

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Speaker 1: with cold brew? Yes? Did Frosty? That is what? Oh? Wait?

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Speaker 1: Actually no, the bacon eader is has a bacon burger

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Speaker 1: patty in it. Pardon me, pardon it just has an egg,

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Speaker 1: And they're like, breakfast. That's breakfast, bro, blow it out

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Speaker 1: with that. But then the other ones you can use

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Speaker 1: traditional breakfast meats. But yeah, the frosty Chino. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: I found out about Wendy's Breakfast because I had a

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Speaker 1: friend who auditioned to be the voice of it, and

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Speaker 1: she was like, I'm auditioning to be the voice of

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Speaker 1: Wendy's Breakfast, And I was like, what the funk? Why

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Speaker 1: didn't I get us to audition? So Wendy's Breakfast is

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Speaker 1: like started off on a bad foot with me, not

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Speaker 1: that secret hater. So you're someone's secret hater. Do you

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Speaker 1: want to? Bacon aid like, I'm clearly not the voice.

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Speaker 1: I don't know a Frosty with coffee, you dumb piece

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Speaker 1: of ship. I'm sorry, Megan. Can we try that one

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Speaker 1: more time and just stick to what's in the sides there? Okay,

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Speaker 1: Bacon had a great Do you wish that the frosty

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Speaker 1: would make you have to ship incredibly immediately speed home? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Those fries in it is that? How will they be

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Speaker 1: dipping tater tots? Yeah, French toast. I'm sorry, I have

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Speaker 1: to just the bacon eader does have a sausage patty,

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Speaker 1: the breakfast bacon eader. So it is they're trying to

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Speaker 1: They're trying to respect the sanctity of this is like

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Speaker 1: the Iowa caucuses you're reporting on. This is just back

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Speaker 1: and forth we're hearing. And they do predict that this

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Speaker 1: will in contribute to a ten percent growth in sales. Okay, March. Well,

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Speaker 1: it turns out we're all okay because children's books are

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Speaker 1: here to save us. So our writer j M McNabb

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Speaker 1: Jam McNabb, has a son who is in junior kindergarten

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Speaker 1: who's like writing writing a book that's called uber Worked

418
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: and Underpaid How workers are disrupting the digital economy. It says,

419
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: what used to be friends among favors now has a

420
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: price tag to pick up from the airport, hauling closed

421
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: to laundry, or helping to pay the apartment. And we

422
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: are now witnessing a financialization of activities that used to

423
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: be an expression of social capital, which is interesting because yeah,

424
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: like there was this helps create community, right you know,

425
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: like you knew like oh hell yeah, like that's my friend,

426
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: let me help you, I know, there will be reciprocity

427
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: at some point, but now that we're able to just

428
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: sort of be like, I don't want to inconvenience them.

429
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: On some level, these things do help because there are

430
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: people who will take advantage of your kindness, and you

431
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: can set boundaries and be like, look, I can't do

432
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: it because you're trying to take advantage of my kindness

433
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: call this person. But at the same time, you do

434
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: lose that bit of feeling of connection where like there

435
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: is sort of community to a certain extent. Yeah, I think,

436
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we know our neighbor is less than we

437
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: used to, which I think is a thing that's been

438
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: happening for a while now but is probably at its peak.

439
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: So we're doing this live show that is about like

440
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: partially about the tech bubble bursting and like the thing

441
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: that seems to be changed. Like there were these companies

442
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: like pets dot Com that we're essentially Amazon for pet products,

443
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: and now Amazon is the most successful company ever Amazon.

444
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: It's Amazon for Amazon, Amazon for pet products and everything else.

445
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: And the innovation is they've figured out that they can

446
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: just like treat people like ship kind of like behind

447
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: the scenes, and as long as we don't see it,

448
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: they can like just make that into economies of scale

449
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: that they can just like turn into all the money

450
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: in the world. I think in the nineties, right, it

451
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: was harder to get as many people who would go

452
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: for this kind of work because there were still a

453
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: lot of jobs available to most people. And then as

454
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: the economy began to get more and more depressed, like

455
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: like I think Amazon came about at this perfect time

456
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: where now you have people who are like, I'll take

457
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: I'll take any kind of work because they're the apps.

458
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: Like the wage stagnation and things like this is preventing

459
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: people from being able to live properly. So yeah, I

460
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: think there the thing about the like knowing your neighbors.

461
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: In the mid seventies, there's a study they say in

462
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: the mid seventies, only about of Americans said they had

463
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: no interactions with their neighbors. Now it's like over a third. Yeah,

464
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: like in increasing more because yeah, most people are sort

465
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: of just walled off. I don't know, it's different. It's

466
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: a lot different. And even now, like I try and

467
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: make a point to talk to my neighbors because like

468
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: there's there's something weird about just not knowing somebody. Yeah,

469
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: and if like you kind of want to know, like

470
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: you live in a community, you know, like where hey,

471
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: if you keep an eye out or something, if you

472
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: saw some ship like hollyer at me, you're like, oh,

473
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: I saw your you know, your package was outside for

474
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: two days. I brought that ship in because I don't

475
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: know somebody. You know that, Like, there's a there's a

476
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: benefit to that, but I think it's it's really easy

477
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: to not do it. And these apps and things I

478
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: think almost make like it makes it easier for us

479
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: to forget that those are bonds we kind of need

480
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: to maintain we've taken for granted. Well, you're also like,

481
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: it's a it's a good thing to be more connected

482
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: with your neighbors and stuff. But when you're given the

483
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: option to be in another community like on Reddit of

484
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: people that you know, it's a more vetted, more filtered, uh,

485
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: representation of your likes, You're you're naturally gonna want to

486
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: be liked rather talk to these people than these people

487
00:29:54,480 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: who could have wildly different opinions. That's hard. Yes, that

488
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: does say, I mean that's convenience and stuff, and Uber

489
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: like you're you're yeah, I mean, Uber is definitely picking convenience.

490
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: I think it was Jelani cub was writing about how

491
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: that I mean writing about it. He tweeted that, like

492
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: the whole you know, policing how much people tip and

493
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: like being like, look at this receipt from this famous

494
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: person they like barely tipped, and just how we like

495
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: that That whole thing is just companies transferring the fact

496
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: that they don't pay their employees enough onto us. Like

497
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: Uber was just like, Okay, now there's a tip button,

498
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: and you subsidize their wages, right, you subsidize their wages

499
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: because we don't pay them enough. And also there's a

500
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: incentive structure where they rate you so like you have

501
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: to tip them a lot basically or else you're gonna

502
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: get a low rating. But I mean, at the same time,

503
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: it's like a service we didn't used to have. Right.

504
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: What happens when you I honestly don't know That's what

505
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: happens when you, the writer have a low rating on Uber?

506
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: Do do drivers not pick you up? Or do they

507
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: play music you wouldn't like? Or like, what is the

508
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: you're canceled? I believe just in general that you're doesn't

509
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: have to get like really low though, and then they

510
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: put a tweet out and they say, this person is

511
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: just canceled. Yeah, everyone, I think it just I think

512
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: probably at a certain level, you might not be able

513
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: to use the service. Super producer Anna Hosny is saying

514
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: that they also team you up with drivers who have

515
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: low ratings. Oh that's why. So so if you're you're

516
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: a one star guy, you get a one star driver. Yeah. Wow.

517
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: Do you think there's anybody, either driver or a rider

518
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: who has one star? Like I think the lowest I've

519
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: ever heard of it, like like four six. Yeah, nobody

520
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: ever gives like a I don't know. Yeah, it depends.

521
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean it takes. I think we've talked about in

522
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: past episodes what it takes for you to fully be

523
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna funk your rating up as a driver,

524
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: like this was actually fucked up because most of us know, like,

525
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: there is it. This is where I guess the sense

526
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: of community does kick in, because you begin to be like,

527
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to like funk up your money by

528
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: being like give you a four star or something like

529
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: and I also three star whatever. It's it's really the

530
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: decision you're making when you go from five to four?

531
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: Is is it? Like, do I want to steer this

532
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: person's life in a different direction so that they can't

533
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: make as much money at this right, so that because

534
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be driving people for a living. Like that's

535
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: the decision making process that I would have to make

536
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: to go from five to four. Four means you're you've failed, epic,

537
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: you failed, and you need to you need to start

538
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: thinking about a different career. That's wild, that's right, Yeah,

539
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: you should get the funk off. Well that's what. Yeah,

540
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: nobody gives low ratings because we're all it's like that

541
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: Black Mirror episode with Bryce Dallas Howard. Is that a

542
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: wrestler or an actress Bryce Dallas Howard in the ring? No,

543
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: but it's uh yeah where everyone's just like five stars

544
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: and five stars and we're all good. Yeah. Uh anyway,

545
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: it's like almost giving you like five stars five star

546
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: are good? Yeah yeah cool, that's our new social contract, right, um.

547
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: And it's where I do see that, like because it's

548
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: weird thinking about like you see, Uh, I've had like

549
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: seen like three star or two star reviews for restaurants

550
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: on Yelp and been like yeah, but I want Chinese

551
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: right now, Like I'll go but if I see a

552
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: four star rating on Uber, I'm like three or two

553
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: star rated foods. Let's let's move on to the next top. Wow,

554
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: So you're just willing to like put actual garbage in

555
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: your body? Huh Yeah, give me that papa. Yeah, uh

556
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: that papa. Uh. There's an aw tour in the world

557
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: of advertising whose work I didn't realize I was such

558
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: a fan of. I didn't realize these two projects were linked.

559
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: So there's this guy, Peter Arnell, who was responsible for

560
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: the Pepsi campaign the pitch dock to uh from an

561
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: advertiser about the redesign of the Pepsi logo to make

562
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: it so that the wavy line does not go down

563
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: the middle of the circle, but it's like off to

564
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: the side a little bit. I just wanna, I do

565
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: wanna look at that? The he is ingenious, you know,

566
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: from taking it from the regular to just kind of

567
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: off to the side. Screw my man's printer was weird.

568
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: So one of the pages I just want to read,

569
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: you guys, the header breathtaking. What is this? This This

570
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: is from the dock that they presented. They're as they were, like,

571
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: here's why you're paying US twenty million dollars and this

572
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: is why, and we just like tilted your logo to

573
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: the side. Uh so. Header of one of the pages,

574
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: breathtaking creation of identity colon the Pepsi universe on one

575
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: side says universe expansion. Okay, the universe expands exponentially with

576
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: and then they just like throw in a bunch of

577
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: like equation shit million miles per hour, and then they

578
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: have like a globe thing X equals one light year.

579
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: On the right side, the Pepsi orbits and it's the

580
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 1: old logo. It's old logo dimensional dimensionizes exponentially, Pepsi planet,

581
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: old logo, Pepsi galaxy. Like twenty different Pepsi logos orbiting

582
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: around one another. I see what's going on here, jack expansion.

583
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: We're going now to through a three dimensional plane. Yes,

584
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: uh so. On the left side, x equals one light year,

585
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: x equals two light years, x equals eight light years,

586
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: and it's just the same picture made bigger and bigger.

587
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 1: But on the right it's Pepsi planet, just the old logo,

588
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: Pepsi galaxy, the new logo orbiting around something Pepsi universe,

589
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: and it like they made it into an atom that

590
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: where all the like quirks and electrons and ship are

591
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: the new Pepsi logo. Uh, and it is it's just

592
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: taking bullshit. If anyone is actually familiar with astrophysics, maybe

593
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: this does make sense. But but I'm just saying maybe

594
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: like in where if you're just using the logo to

595
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: represent like electron motion or something like that, but what

596
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: does that actually But it means fuck alto why that

597
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: you change the logo. And also you're having to like

598
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: just make up what the what the original Pepsi logo

599
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: looks like on the side, that's that's all made up.

600
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you know how these meetings go, right,

601
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: you know, like you get in there, you say something

602
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: smart enough and like trippy. They some people be like,

603
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's trippy ship said by people who

604
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: don't have the mind for trippy ship. So they are

605
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: just like that's that has the sound of like something smart,

606
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: but they don't have the imagination to like hold the

607
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: idea of smart and like trippy and like sort of out.

608
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: It was like early Jaden Smith interviews when he would

609
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: just say some wild tripputy ship, Like you just overheard

610
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: some adults say that this whole pitch deck is big

611
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: Jaden Smith energy Like, yes, super nice dude. I'm sure

612
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: I think now his intellect is catching up to him

613
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: as he gets older. I think he's going to be

614
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: our next president astro physicist, physicist president. Uh No, but uh,

615
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: I'm sure they were very nice when they presented this

616
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: deck because they got millions and millions of dollars too.

617
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: It was like early I think. Um. So that is

618
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: from a guy named Peter Arnell. Uh he's also responsible.

619
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: Uh well, first of all, Gawker did a profile with

620
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: him where they talked about, uh, the fifteen worst bosses

621
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,959
Speaker 1: in New York City, and he is apparently up there.

622
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: The guy with the Galaxy brain. Galaxy Brain guy thought, yeah,

623
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: I'll just read some some from the from that profile.

624
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: Uh he Uh. Once he freaked out in a meeting

625
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: because the CD did not work in the CD player,

626
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: so he took the CD out and smashed it into

627
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: pieces on the conference room table. The I T guy

628
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: who was standing behind him ended up going to the

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Speaker 1: hospital because the shards from the c D flew into

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Speaker 1: his eye. Uh. When you go to a meeting in

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Speaker 1: his office, he makes everyone wait at the door, then

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Speaker 1: directs each person where to sit by a hierarchy and

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Speaker 1: whatever mood he's feeling, which that that really resonates with

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Speaker 1: the Pepsi pitch stock because it's all about like his

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Speaker 1: idea of like universal organisam millennial vibes like the as

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Speaker 1: as the light years expand exponentially, it's like, all right,

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Speaker 1: what's the Pepsi redesigned considered a failure or is just

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Speaker 1: like a laughing stock once people got a hold of

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Speaker 1: this material, just a laughing stock once people got hold

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Speaker 1: of them, because I think most people like, okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: not buying more because you moved the wiggle. Yes, But anyways,

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Speaker 1: another piece of work that I hadn't realized was his

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Speaker 1: so Tropicana used to have a very recognizable carton and

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Speaker 1: it was they were the only like they were the

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Speaker 1: first to get to fresh squeezed orange juice. Really yeah,

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Speaker 1: they did it, by it's wild how they did it.

647
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Speaker 1: They created these giant vats. They look like big like

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Speaker 1: things that you would assume like gas is being held

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Speaker 1: in like natural gas, but it's actually giant vats of

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Speaker 1: orange juice that have all the oxygen sucked out, like

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Speaker 1: they can hold your orange juice there for like years

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Speaker 1: because it doesn't like oxygen, it doesn't oxidize nothing, nothing

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Speaker 1: bad happens to it. The only bad thing that happens

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Speaker 1: to it is it stops to favor. It loses all

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Speaker 1: its flavor. So what Tropicana had to do was, so

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Speaker 1: you're still drinking fresh squeezed orange juice or it's three

657
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Speaker 1: years old, but it hasn't you know, it hasn't been

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Speaker 1: touched by oxygen, so it's fun. It just lost all

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Speaker 1: its flavor. But then they added this thing that is

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Speaker 1: like a flavoring. Uh, it's like the essence of orange.

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Speaker 1: It has nothing has nothing to do with the taste.

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Speaker 1: It's all scent based. So if you can't, if you

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Speaker 1: can't smell your orange juice from Tropicana, it won't taste

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Speaker 1: like oranges what like I've had, But if you don't

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Speaker 1: have your ability to breathe though, that affects your your

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Speaker 1: tasting abilities. But like I have, like I know people

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Speaker 1: whose sense of smell doesn't work, like who had like

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Speaker 1: some damage or so you're saying if you got it

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Speaker 1: and that that affects your ability it tastes things and

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Speaker 1: like it's all like all factory is like more uh

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Speaker 1: tied to like what you think thinks taste like that?

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Speaker 1: What about the new factory? That's right? Um So anyways,

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Speaker 1: Tropicana had the game locked just with this carton that

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Speaker 1: was an orange with a straw in it. That was

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Speaker 1: that I remember. I remember trying to drink an orange

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Speaker 1: like out of kid. Yes, they like that communicates every

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00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: fucking thing you need to know. So this dude comes

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Speaker 1: in and changes the carton to be a glass of

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Speaker 1: orange juice. That's it, like just a big glass of

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Speaker 1: orange juices on the side near wine glass. Yeah, it

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00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: looks like a wine glass, so it doesn't even look

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Speaker 1: like the orange juice that you were used to. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And the tropicanal logo going up the side. I remember

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Speaker 1: being like did they get rid of Tropican orange? Was

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Speaker 1: like happen the Tropican orange? And then like because he

686
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: also fused with a logo. Uh, they lost thirty three

687
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Speaker 1: million dollars in sales and immediately had to change the

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Speaker 1: design back. So they just went right back. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: think they went pretty much back close to being back

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Speaker 1: to what it used to be, or at least having

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Speaker 1: like an orange on it rather than like an obscure

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Speaker 1: an obscure glass of orange juice that could be any

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Speaker 1: orange like and it could be from Concentral. Yeah. They

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Speaker 1: just went back. They literally just went back. Give me

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Speaker 1: the orange with the straw in it. Yes, stop sucking around. Yes,

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Speaker 1: um they tried it with that like minimal design. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what I got you points at like art Center, right,

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00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: you know, I felt like that way was happening though,

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00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: with like Unique Low and all these like minimalist type companies,

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00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: and it just doesn't work for that, right, We're not

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Speaker 1: looking for like beautiful future forward eight x lightyear design

702
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: from our orange juice cartons. And also it wasn't even

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00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: a good design. I wonder what that deck looked like.

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Speaker 1: If he was saying the pepsi thing was all about,

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00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, atomic subparticles and ship like that, he was

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00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: like Nazi the future people will not actually be drinking

707
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: oranges with a straw inserted into it, but they will

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Speaker 1: be doing Yeah exactly they We will all be drinking

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Speaker 1: our our orange juice in the form of a mimosa.

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00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: So it should be a champagne flute. Yeah, that is

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00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: what it evokes, is mimosa. I wonder if the coloring

712
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: isn't even good. Yeah, it doesn't look like orange well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if the you know, we

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Speaker 1: don't know exactly what the colors are going through a screen.

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00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: I just want to be fair to him from a

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Speaker 1: color processing level. But this is a courtesy of Mono

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Speaker 1: Synth on Twitter, so shout out to them. All. Right, Well,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: And we're back, and it's time for music Corner, where

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00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: checking all the hottest sounds coming at you across the airway.

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00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: That's spicy music, spicy music radio. What we just do

722
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Speaker 1: this for the rest of the show, off the rails. Yeah,

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00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: uh so, Taylor Swift is now our rage against the machine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, she's very She was very a

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Speaker 1: political up until like maybe a year and a half ago.

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00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: A year ago in a studied like very explicitly a political.

727
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: People were like, yo, huge, you have a huge conservative

728
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: fan base. Probably can you say something? And well through

729
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: the election she was like, it's nothing. But it turns

730
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: out it was because she just didn't think Hillary was

731
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Speaker 1: woken off. No, I have no idea what I mean,

732
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Speaker 1: she hasn't. Has she explained that she was like what

733
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: was she thinking? I think she was just didn't. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if she knew, if she felt responsible to

735
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Speaker 1: say something like the responsibility of having to say something

736
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Speaker 1: or whatever, but or maybe they realized maybe it's better marketing. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think that's what it was. It used to be

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Speaker 1: possible to sit this one out, and it became uh

739
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Speaker 1: wildly unprofitable for her to continue to sit it. Well,

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00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: she's doing fine in the profit department. Well, but she was.

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Speaker 1: I think she was. I do think this was a

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Speaker 1: smart business decision on her part, to like, and probably

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Speaker 1: a studied and carefully chosen decision. I'm sure in the

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Speaker 1: in the I mean it to us, it did very well,

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00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: but reputation did not do banger did it? Like? I

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Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think so. But I think

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Speaker 1: it's more happened. I don't think it's really about album

748
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: sales anymore so much as it's about like endorsement deals,

749
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: like oh, your their money is coming from live shows.

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00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: That's that's where all these artists make their money. Now,

751
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: it's from selling out stadiums. And I think, you know,

752
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: I think she actually does believe these things. But yeah,

753
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: like at a certain level, it's like your brand is

754
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: being managed by so many stakeholders, like you don't know

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00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: what to do. And I think now with her new

756
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: documentary Miss Americana, she's got this song called only the

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00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: Young and it's you know, before things had like a

758
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: political tone, but now it's the lyrics are like the

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00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: game was rigged, the ref got tricked, the wrong ones

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00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: think they're right, you were outnumbered this time. Okay, a

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00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: little bit more would be a lot harder criticize, or

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00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: would be all it easier to criticize that if we

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Speaker 1: hadn't just made the exact same metaphor about the refs

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00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: being tricked. Yeah, fuck god, are we stealing from I mean,

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00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: it's like Simpsons. She's also the new Simpsons, and that

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00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: every joke you try to make Taylor Swifts already made. Right. Yeah.

767
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: Then she also says like sort of about mass shootings.

768
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: You go to class scared, wondering where the best hiding

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Speaker 1: spot would be, and the big bad man and his

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Speaker 1: Big Bad clan their hands are stained with red. Huh.

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00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: It's all. She's got a history of doing these flip

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00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: flops and having it go well for her when remember

773
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: when she wasn't on Spotify and like that was a

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00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: big deal. People really were upset that her music wasn't

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00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: on Spotify, and then when she finally did put it

776
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 1: over there, it was huge. Yeah, when any other band

777
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: would go it's like anticipation and then release it. So

778
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: if she's like Switzerland on politics, you know, and then

779
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: goes hard, one way that's gonna make. I mean, I

780
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: think I'm just glad to see people with audiences try

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00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: and like let them know. It's like just so you know,

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00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: like I'll try and use whatever platform I have to

783
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: like actually have some kind of a message that isn't

784
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: just like is Trump that bad? You know what I mean?

785
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: Because they're people are could easily be doing that or

786
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: saying nothing without realizing how much their fans like care

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00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: about what they think or believe. And if that can

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00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: help some people, then you know fine, so be it. Personally,

789
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: when I go on stage doing comedy my life's passion,

790
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: I I like to say, you heard that you heard

791
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: of this Trump guy? Yeah, like those guys, those guys

792
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: are straight up fist. I try to just pepper that

793
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: in the be like, wow, okay, he took a side

794
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that. Yeah, just off top, I think

795
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 1: Trumps a bozo Okay, all right, now we'll get into

796
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: the calm and that hair. Hello, do you ever call

797
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: the cheetoh? Because that is funny, because because they're right,

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00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: I'd like to call him an orange oh ship. Oranges

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Speaker 1: are orange? Put up blood orange? Or conflict? All Right,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please

801
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Speaker 1: like and review the show. If you like the show,

802
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: Uh means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. By U