1 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Greetings and welcome to wokaf with me Danielle Moody. As 2 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: we settle into life under the Biden Harris administration, I've 3 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: been having thoughtful conversations with expert guests about what the 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: new Democratic administration can do to not only repair our 5 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: country but set it on a better path forward. Every 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: week I invite thought leaders to share their knowledge and 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: expertise with the wokaf community, and I invite you to 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: join us over on Patreon for just five dollars a 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: month at patreon dot com slash wokeaf to hear five 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: new shows every single week featuring these stimulating discussions as 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: well as my own perspective. This week, I wanted to 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: share with everyone the beginning of my interview with doctor 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: Mark Rank, co author of Poorly Understood What America Gets 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: Wrong about Poverty. I asked Mark to bust open some 15 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: common myths about poverty, and what he told me is 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: important to share with everyone. What are some of the 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: common misconceptions and myths that we share as a country 18 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: around poverty. There are obviously a lot of different myths 19 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: out there, but I think one to start with is 20 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: this idea that well, poverty is going to affect somebody 21 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: else but not me, that it's an issue of them 22 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: rather than an issue of us. And one of the 23 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: ways we start out in the book is to say, actually, 24 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: if you look across people's lifetimes, majority of Americans at 25 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: some point will experience a year below the official poverty line. 26 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: So between the ages of twenty and seventy five, sixty 27 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: percent of folks will find themselves in poverty, and three 28 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: quarters of Americans will find themselves either in poverty or 29 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: near poverty for at least a year. And this really 30 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: puts a different perspective on it because it says, you know, actually, 31 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: poverty is an issue that affects most of us in 32 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: one way or another. So that's that's one sort of 33 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: variation on this idea that the myth of poverty being 34 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: an issue of them rather than an issue of us. 35 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: There are many others as well. For example, we often 36 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: our image of poverty is often that of folks of 37 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: color in inner city areas that have been in poverty 38 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: for long periods of time and that are using social 39 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 1: safety net programs. It turns out, it turns out that 40 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: that's that image is not correct. Actually, most people in 41 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: poverty do not live in high poverty inner city neighborhoods. 42 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: They live in a variety of places. They live in suburbs, 43 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: they live in rural America. So I guess the point 44 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: of this is to say that the reach of poverty 45 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: is very wide, and it affects a lot of folks 46 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: at some point in their lives. Why do you think 47 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: that we, I mean, from your research and the work 48 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: that you've done throughout your career. Is it just the 49 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: storytelling aspect that needs to shift because we've perpetuated the 50 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: lie the media And when I say we, I mean 51 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: the media has perpetuated the lie with regard to poverty 52 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: and what we're seeing. You know, but while we have 53 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: this image right of black and brown people in the 54 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: inner city, in these dilapidated communities as being impoverished, what 55 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: we know to be true is that if a four 56 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: hundred dollars bill were to come due in most American household, 57 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: seventy five percent of those households would be unable to 58 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: pay that bill. Right, we know that healthcare continues to 59 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: bankrupt families, which is why we had the push for 60 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: the Affordable Care Acts so that you're regardless of your 61 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: economic situation, you could still get healthcare outside of an 62 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: emergency room. So we hold those facts while we still 63 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: perpetuate the lie. And so how do you think that 64 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: we disrupt that? Well, I think you know, one thing 65 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: is is addressing that and addressing that with you know, 66 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: good solid evidence and facts and research, which is what 67 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: I've tried to do throughout my career. But I think 68 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, an interesting question here is to step back 69 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: and to say, look, so we go in the book, 70 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: we go through all kinds of miss and basically show 71 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: that those myths are not true. So the question is, 72 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: if that's the case, how come we continue to hold 73 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: those myths, which I think one of the things you're 74 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: asking here. And we can step back and say, well, 75 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: who's benefiting from these myths? Who's benefits from the perpetuation 76 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: of these myths? And I think we can point to 77 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: several different groups. One would be political actors and politicians. 78 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: Politicians have used the issue of the undeserving for the 79 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: lazy person on welfare to score political points over and 80 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: over and over again. So Ronald Reagan was infamous in 81 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: terms of his use of the welfare Queen Bill Clinton 82 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: talked about we want to end welfare as we know it. 83 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump railed against welfare recipients, and what that's done 84 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: is it's scored them political points in the American population, 85 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: and so they've had a vested interests. But there's also 86 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: we could step back and say, you know, actually, these 87 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: myths that the poor are deserving of their situation really 88 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: benefits those on the top, because what it says is 89 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: that I don't have any responsibility. It's not my problem 90 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: if you're poor. Whereas if we say, actually, these problems 91 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: are structural. It has to do with our economic policies, 92 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: it has to do with our political and policy programs. 93 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: If we do that, then we have to say, you 94 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: know what, we all have a responsibility in terms of this. 95 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: So I think that's a really important question to ask. 96 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: You know, who's benefiting from these myths? And I would 97 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: argue that the folks that have benefited have been basically 98 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: the folks in power who are content with the status 99 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: quo of widening inequality and more of the gains going 100 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: to those at the top. This week on woke f Daily, 101 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: I also spoke with Evan Stone, co founder and CEO 102 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: of Educators for Excellence. His organization survey teachers working through 103 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: an unanticipated year of remote learning and staggering reopenings, and 104 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: he joined me to share his results. The full conversation 105 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: was so extensive and informative, so to hear the full 106 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: half hour interview, head over to patreon dot com slash 107 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: woke a F and subscribe. But for now, here's Evan 108 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: Stone telling us how teachers have been working through educating 109 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: in a pandemic and what he thinks the Biden Harris 110 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: administration can do to pave the road ahead. As folks 111 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: that listen to Woke a F No, they know that 112 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm a former educator. My sister is currently an international 113 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: school teacher. She's in Bangladesh teaching there remotely from her apartment. 114 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: And I have always had a deep affinity for educators. 115 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: I think that it is the most important job. It 116 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: is why I went to get my master's degree in 117 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: early childhood education. It's why I wanted to work on 118 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: the hill in education policy because I felt that if 119 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: we could create a global citizenship, if we could create 120 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: critical thinkers, if we could create young people who believed 121 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: in their power and responsibility, then we could change this country. 122 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: And that's what I've always been about, is how do 123 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: we change this country? How do we make it more equitable? 124 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: And so teachers have been going through. I can't even imagine. Honestly, 125 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what it would be like, because 126 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: I know how I feel just having my life turned around, 127 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: as everybody else's life has been turned upside down. But 128 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: I have largely been able to take my profession into 129 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: my home and do it and interview adults all day 130 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: who know how to sit in front of a zoom. 131 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: Whether or not we want to we do. How have 132 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: teachers been, evan like, how are the teachers that you 133 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: talk to the administrators? How are they faring? Because if 134 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: you don't have kids, I don't think that you have 135 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: a deep window into what the educator's experience has been 136 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: over the past year. Yeah, I mean, like many of us, 137 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: teachers are grappling with this change, but they had, as 138 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: you mentioned, both their personal lives and their professional lives 139 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: completely upended. One of the things we know is over 140 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: three quarters of teachers are caretakers, either they have children 141 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: or elderly family members or others that they are taken 142 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: care of. And so in the spring of last year, 143 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: we did the right thing by saying we don't understand 144 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: this virus, we don't know what it could mean. We 145 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: need to close schools because it could have been a 146 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: massive threat to teachers and to students. But in doing that, 147 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: teachers had never taught online. For the most part, they 148 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: school systems didn't have the structures set up to support 149 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: educators to move their lessons online. Their curriculum wasn't adaptable 150 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,479 Speaker 1: to an online environment, and their students, particularly historically marginalized 151 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: populations of kids, didn't have the technology and the access, 152 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: and so there was no guidance, There was very little support, 153 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 1: and we were waiting for teachers to solve this problem. 154 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: Then I think over the course of the summer, there 155 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: was an expectation of we're going to solve the virus, 156 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: and so let's plan on what reopening could look like. 157 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: And it seems like we all wasted time that could 158 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: have been spent on thinking about how we support teachers 159 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: to prepare for a year that was going to be 160 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: mostly virtual. And so teachers are grappling with this. They 161 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: are feeling like they aren't as successful as they want 162 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: to be, and they're feeling very guilty about that. They 163 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: are feeling totally overwhelmed with trying to manage their lives 164 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: during this pandemic and an entirely new profession that looks 165 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: entirely different, and they're grappling with how disconnected they feel 166 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: from their colleagues and from their students. So they are 167 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: looking for solutions to this. They really want to get 168 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: back into the classroom, and they want to get back 169 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: in front of their kids, but they want to do 170 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: that in a safe way, and they're feeling right now 171 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: like there is a narrative that is pitting teachers against 172 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: students that I don't think is representative of where most 173 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: educators are. And it's really unfortunate that that's sort of 174 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: the conversations turned into, like opening schools for kids or 175 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: you keep schools closed to keep teachers safe. Is I 176 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: think a far too simple narrative that doesn't represent where 177 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: educators actually are on these issues. And is I think 178 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: penny blame on them for things that they're not fully 179 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: responsible for or don't have complete control over. What kind 180 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: of faith do you have, Evan in the new administration 181 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: to be able to create some type of continuity in 182 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: our public education system. We know that the last administration 183 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: did a gut job, and that there was a let's 184 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: just say, a detracting of money going into public schools 185 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: and a rerouting into religious entities and private schools and 186 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: charter schools and what have you. How do you feel 187 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: your level of hopefulness about this new administration and the 188 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: desperate rehabbing that our K through twelve system needs. I 189 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: am hopeful, but I have been hopeful in past and 190 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: have been disappointed. So this time I want my hope 191 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: to be complimented with some real strategy and a greater 192 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: level of advocacy from across the country. And I'm hopeful 193 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons. One, President Biden has made 194 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: clear he wants to triple funding for Title One. There's 195 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: probably nothing more important that the federal government could do 196 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: than to get more dollars directed towards our most disadvantaged 197 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: populations of students like that would be a huge win 198 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: if they can actually execute on that. To his current plan, 199 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: his current stimulus or Recovery bill would drive dollars to 200 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: prevent massive layoffs of teachers from across the country and 201 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: disproportionately protect teachers of color and teachers in low income schools. 202 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: So we can't go through the same thing that we 203 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: went through in the last recession and see ourselves lose 204 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of teachers at a time when we're 205 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: already struggling to recruit and retain teachers. Three. Doctor Cardona, 206 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: who's the Secretary designate but flew through his initial confirmation hearing, 207 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: is somebody we have worked closely with in Connecticut, and 208 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: I believe both his life experience and his leadership in 209 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: Connecticut have demonstrated that he is committed to the real 210 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: role of the federal Department, which is about increasing equity 211 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: in our education system. It was created the Federal Department 212 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: of Education was created to drive equity in a system 213 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: that we knew was inequitable, and so I do think 214 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: that will be his primary focus. We've worked closely with 215 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: him on teacher diversity in Connecticut, and so I think 216 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: that will be a key focus of his And so 217 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm optimistic about the team that they've built, the priorities 218 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: that they put out to start, But there is a 219 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: lot of work to do, and it can't be done 220 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: just by the administration. Congress needs to play a role, 221 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: and we've continued to see Congress do as little as 222 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: possible to help drive change across the country. Folks, if 223 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: you've been following me for a while, you know that 224 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: I often say that you need to take a break 225 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: before you have a breakdown. Well, this week, I am 226 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: practicing what I preach and we'll be taking a break 227 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: to myself all week to wind down and decompress. But 228 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: if you are a Patriot subscriber or thinking about subscribing, 229 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: don't worry. I still have five full prerecorded shows Monday 230 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: through Friday. 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