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Speaker 1: Welcome back into clay endbox play, and I said, I

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Speaker 1: switched this up and I was going to tell you

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Speaker 1: about some of what I saw yesterday from a couple

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Speaker 1: defense of national security side, and I think there's particular

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Speaker 2: Used in Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: My guess is that that's not the technical term for it,

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Speaker 1: but Trump mentioned something about this publicly, which is unusual

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Speaker 1: for a weapon system that people are not familiar with.

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Speaker 1: But now the Venezuelans are familiar with it, So guess

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Speaker 1: what people are going to figure this out. But the

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Speaker 1: truth is, the wars of the future and just the

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Speaker 1: national security needs of the United States going in the

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Speaker 1: future are going to be increasingly reliant upon two things

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Speaker 1: that intersect very powerfully, really two things that are complementary

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Speaker 1: technology and manufactur And you have to be able to

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about drones and AI and hypersonics, and

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Speaker 1: see in the national security sphere. You have to be Nimmel,

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Speaker 1: you have to be fast, and this is what Clay

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Speaker 1: this speech yesterday, that Secretary of Warhaxeth.

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Speaker 2: It was great to see him. We got to catch

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Speaker 2: up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I mean he was busy with like the second richest

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Speaker 2: A bunch of very senior military folks.

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Speaker 1: But we talked a little bit and I was glad

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Speaker 1: to meet his staff and see how they're doing this

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Speaker 1: Arsenal of Freedom Tour, which is what it was, the

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Speaker 1: Arsenal Freedom and they're going around to a lot of

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Speaker 1: the biggest not just there's the defense primes, Boeing, Lockheed.

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Speaker 1: and this has happened really again, I'm not an expert

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Speaker 2: Consolidation of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: And now there's these companies, there's these upstarts, these startups.

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Speaker 1: I guess maybe both upstarts and startups like Andrel based

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Speaker 1: into the space side, I'm going to just say this

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Speaker 1: is one of the one of the incredible things that

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Speaker 1: Trump and the whole MAGA movement has accomplished that I

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Speaker 1: think people don't have enough appreciation of. A decade or

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Speaker 1: so ago, Google and its employees and from the time

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Speaker 2: They can do what they want. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's like when they said build their own Internet, you know,

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Speaker 1: do it, do it our do it our way. Clay,

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Speaker 1: that is a massive First of all, it's borderline, in

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Speaker 1: And it that was the culture though in Silicon Valley,

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Speaker 2: And they were they were fine with that.

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Speaker 1: That's changed now and I think it's one of the

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Speaker 1: They're saying, yeah, we're gonna build something fifteen years out

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Speaker 1: all whole range of military threats. There's so much going on, Clay,

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Speaker 1: and we can get into the space piece too, But

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Speaker 1: this is a transformation of the way that the United

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I work with them on everything,

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Speaker 1: because these Google without the US military providing it, they'd

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like.

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Speaker 1: Google only exists because the United States provides this marketplace.

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna turn your nose up at working with

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Speaker 2: But remember Pentagon's paying for this stuff. The Pentagon.

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Speaker 1: It's not that they have to do whatever the Pedagon says.

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Speaker 1: It's just the Pedagon will say, hey, we want to

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Speaker 1: And this was Google and all these top companies out

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Speaker 2: That's what people have to understand. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have the best soldiers in the world, well

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Speaker 1: we if they can just out manufacture us are the

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Speaker 3: And so we are, I think, evolving in the same

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Speaker 2: And who knows what comes next?

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Speaker 3: Buck, It may be robot warfare, right, I mean, when

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Speaker 3: It's one reason why we're exploding. Exploding is the wrong

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Speaker 3: word expanding our overall budget for the military because this

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Speaker 1: The other part of this that was really interesting. So

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Speaker 1: And then on the space side of this, Clay and

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Speaker 1: commercialized now. And Elon deserves tremendous credit for this. There

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Uh Buck

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Speaker 3: And look, I'm open you guys can give us talkbacks,

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Speaker 3: you can call in, like I did what I consider

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Speaker 3: to be a pretty deep dive yesterday to make sure

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Speaker 3: that I had looked at every different angle. And I think, again,

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Speaker 3: this story, to me, based on all these emails coming out,

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Speaker 3: is the story of a guy who got rich by

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Speaker 3: having access to a lot of young attractive girls. And

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Speaker 3: there were a lot of old, rich guys that did

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Speaker 3: not have access to young attractive girls that were willing

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Speaker 3: to hang out with Jeffrey Epstein because he would, you know,

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Speaker 3: you'd go to a dinner and there were a bunch

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Speaker 3: of pretty girls there. That's sort of a lot of

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Speaker 3: these emails.

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Speaker 1: Show, well, when you're saying you know this, this is

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Speaker 1: where I do think some we have to be clear

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Speaker 1: when you're saying access to young girls, would you know,

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Speaker 1: because that's girls you're really talking about. I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of these individuals who are not charged with and

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Speaker 1: there's no allegation out there by any of the women,

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Speaker 1: by any of the women against you know, numero of

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Speaker 1: these guys individuals, which I think is really it'd be

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Speaker 1: one thing if we had some of the women who

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Speaker 1: you know who are abused were under age saying this

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Speaker 1: guy did this or that guy you know that and

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Speaker 1: then can we prove it. It's another thing to say

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Speaker 1: there's no you know, because you have to be fair

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Speaker 1: to people here, Epstein, did you know this is a

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Speaker 1: position that might Epstein did interact with human beings who

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Speaker 1: did nothing wrong and knew nothing about it.

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Speaker 2: You know that that is a reality too.

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Speaker 3: When I'm I'm saying older of age girls, right, this

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Speaker 3: is what it's sucking about people eighteen, A lot of guys,

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Speaker 3: this is this is the key, the key to French.

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Speaker 1: Sorry I diverted there, but yes, you're you're saying what

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Speaker 1: I wanted to say, which is that it's one thing

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Speaker 1: for a guy, you know, who is a powerful, rich

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Speaker 1: guy to say Epstein, he's got the Rolodex with all

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Speaker 1: the over eighteen victorious secret models that I.

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Speaker 3: Want to meet that twenty four year old smoke right,

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Speaker 3: I'm sixty years old, and otherwise there's no way that

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Speaker 3: I'm going to meet him. I'm saying, that's what a

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Speaker 3: lot of these emails look like to me.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's and that's now you can say, you know

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Speaker 1: age gap and another that is one hundred percent. You know,

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Speaker 1: if a twenty four year old Victoria Secret model, a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys in their fifties and sixty if they

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Speaker 1: had a chance. You know, again, that's this is the

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Speaker 1: there's this. You can you can judge that as much

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Speaker 1: as you can, but there's nothing even vaguely criminal about that.

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Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent legal and always will be and

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Speaker 1: always should be. I might add, there's nothing criminal about that.

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Speaker 1: These are people who are adults, they are of age

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Speaker 1: of consent. Everything is fine. So you can say it's

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like you can say it's unseemly, but

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Speaker 1: you know, being rude to the maid is unseemly.

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Speaker 2: We don't lock people up for that, right.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's why to me, when I saw these emails,

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Speaker 3: it's interesting Epstein didn't really have celebrity friends, right, And

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about there weren't a lot of Hollywood people.

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Speaker 3: There weren't a lot of musicians, they weren't actors and

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Speaker 3: actresses that he was involved with. They were super rich

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Speaker 3: guys tended to be older. And again, to me, it

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Speaker 3: feels like he would have a party and you would

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Speaker 3: go to it, and there were eight gorgeous models there

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Speaker 3: and five old dudes, and he took advantage of being

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Speaker 3: able to provide those kind of environments.

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Speaker 1: That's what all of it read like to me. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's unpack that for a second. Celebrities, don't you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're a top Hollywood actor, you know, you don't

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Speaker 1: need you pretty girls and of age, victorious secret model

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Speaker 1: or whatever.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Again, we're being very clear, we're talking about women in

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Speaker 1: their twenties. Let's just make it that women in their twenties.

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Speaker 1: Epstein had access to women in their twenties, Les Wesner,

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Speaker 1: the Victoria's Secret brand and others. But but normally, you know,

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Speaker 1: guys who are thirties, forties, even into their fifties, who

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Speaker 1: are successful and famous in any capacity, they don't need,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't need Jeffrey Epstein to meet girls. But if you're sixty.

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Speaker 2: If you're if you're a sixty year old kind of

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Speaker 2: you know, if.

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Speaker 1: You're like a Reid Hoffman looking guy, he's in the

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Speaker 1: flowers a lot Reid Hoffman, you know. And I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying this guy probably needed you know, he's not a

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Speaker 1: guy that you would think would have easy time with

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Speaker 1: the ladies, is all I'm saying. The who is in

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Speaker 1: the emails was super rich guys that are probably socially

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Speaker 1: awkward that are having trouble meeting women of age, and

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Speaker 1: they used Epstein, and Epstein used them in order to

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Speaker 1: meet attractive women.

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Speaker 2: That's what stood out to me.

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Speaker 3: Again, you guys out there, if I'm missing something, if

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Speaker 3: Buck is missing something, then then let us know. But

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Speaker 3: it feels to me, by and large like this story

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Speaker 3: is most it's Bill Gates, right, it's Bill Gates who

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Speaker 3: needs help meeting chicks. It's readop And by the way,

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Speaker 3: a lot of these people, very rich, Democrat downers. A

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Speaker 3: lot of these rich supposedly super super they have amazing media.

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Speaker 3: Oh what a hero all these guys are.

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Speaker 2: Oh they're so great.

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Speaker 3: You're like, they actually seem pretty scummy in the emails

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Speaker 3: with Epstein. But again to your point, if being scummy

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Speaker 3: were a crime, most of Congress would be in prison.

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Speaker 3: And and so to me it kind of stood out.

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Speaker 3: That's what jumped out at me. I'm glad the emails

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Speaker 3: are out now. Uh, it doesn't feel to me like

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Speaker 3: there's anything else really.

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Speaker 1: The cleanup that happened of really damaging information and or

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Speaker 1: any of the tapes, the surveillance, any of if there

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Speaker 1: was a blackmail operation operating here, which I still believe

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Speaker 1: was at least a part of this that's been gone

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Speaker 1: for a long time, which we've said here. I mean

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Speaker 1: that that's my assessment is that that stuff got wiped

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Speaker 1: a long time ago. And so now you have what

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Speaker 1: you have. I'm not saying it answers all the questions.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's it shows you everything that should

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Speaker 1: be shown. I'm just saying I don't see where the

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Speaker 1: other where the next phase of demand for transparency is

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Speaker 1: is going to go at this stage. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: if there was something else that I thought we have

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Speaker 1: to release, what else is going to be released now?

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Speaker 2: I think we're we're where we are on this one.

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Speaker 1: So but I'm sure some of you will disagree, and

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Speaker 1: you will let us know that because you are not

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Speaker 1: shy about talking about when you disagree with us. And

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Speaker 1: if I can just pivot for something far less serious

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Speaker 1: for a moment here, Clay, before I actually get into

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Speaker 1: a serious read but far less serious, we have to

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Speaker 3: that we have not covered very much that is at

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Speaker 3: the top of most of the newscast right now, and

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Speaker 3: I want to give you this update. The mother of

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Speaker 3: Savannah Guthrie. Her name is Nancy Guthrie. She is eighty

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Speaker 3: four years old in Arizona. We have a big audience

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Speaker 3: listening to us in Arizona. The sheriff is going to

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Speaker 3: give an update on this story. Savannah Guthrie is a

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Speaker 3: host on the Today Show. I'm sure many of you

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Speaker 3: are familiar with her. Buck, I have read a decent

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Speaker 3: amount about this. It's a very strange story. My take,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know if you would sign off on

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Speaker 3: this as well, is that Savannah Guthrie is not so

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Speaker 3: famous that I would think most people would know who

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Speaker 3: Savannah Guthrie's mom is. And so as there are reports

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Speaker 3: of blood and abductions. Here, I don't know if this

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Speaker 3: is just she's a victim and it has nothing to

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Speaker 3: do at all with Savannah Guthrie. I think the reason

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Speaker 3: it has caught a lot of attention is because there

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Speaker 3: is a connection to Savannah Guthrie. But again, I could

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Speaker 3: be wrong here. I just don't think Savannah Guthrie is

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Speaker 3: so famous that everybody would know. If you told me

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Speaker 3: jd Vance's mom was abducted, I would say, okay, you

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Speaker 3: know if you told me that there were there are

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Speaker 3: certain people that I would say, well, there's no way

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Speaker 3: that's coincidental. I'm just not sure that this is in

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Speaker 3: any way actually connected to Savannah Guthrie. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: I mean it, I mean and I look.

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Speaker 1: I hope that they find Savannah Guthrie's mother unharmed and

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Speaker 1: that the perpetrators are punished the fullest extent of the law.

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Speaker 1: The first thing that my brain went to though, when

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Speaker 1: I read this is remember the just heartbreaking story of

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's dad.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I thought the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Just yeah, because someone who's Savanna Guthrie is not quite

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Speaker 1: as known globally as Michael Jordan was. Michael Jordan was

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Speaker 1: I think pre Trump, Michael Jordan might have become the

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Speaker 1: most famous person on the planet for a period of time.

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Speaker 1: I think he probably was the most recognizable, most famous, uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, sports icon, but really cultural icon.

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Speaker 1: His dad was, if memory serves, nawing in his car

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Speaker 1: like taking a basically a snooze, and people woke him

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Speaker 1: up to carjack him and shot him in the chest,

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Speaker 1: killed him a totally just horrific, random act of violence.

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Speaker 1: I think both those guys got life in prison, the

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Speaker 1: two that did the carjacking. But you know, terrible things

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Speaker 1: can happen to the family and members of famous people too.

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Speaker 1: And this is when you're talking about a woman with dementia.

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Speaker 1: Eighty three, you said, Clay, is that right?

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Speaker 3: I think in eighty four, I think they're putting the

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Speaker 3: details up about her right now five five, one hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty pounds, they say, last scene on nil January

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Speaker 3: thirty first, and again in Arizona, they're about to have

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Speaker 3: a press conference. Sorry to cut you off, but just

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Speaker 3: and the photos are everywhere, and certainly a lot of

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Speaker 3: you are listening in the Arizona area, and keep your

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Speaker 3: eyes open. Obviously, we want something not negative to come

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Speaker 3: out associated with this story. But yes, to your point,

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Speaker 3: Jordan's dad was murdered, and it appears to have nothing

656
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: to do with the fact that Michael Jordan, this was

657
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 3: going to come here totally random, just happened to be

658
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 3: the son of one of the most famous people on

659
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: the planet. And I think this woman, Savannah Guthrie's mother

660
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: happened to be the mother of one of the most

661
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 3: famous broadcasters around in America today.

662
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: Look I like I said, I hope that they find her.

663
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: But the indicators here to say it's highly concerning.

664
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: Is is an understatement. You know someone's being abducted, there's blood. Well,

665
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: we'll see.

666
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: All you can do is pray and hope that they

667
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: find her somewhere. You always have that possibility that the

668
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: kidnappers or the abductors, maybe they figured out who her

669
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: daughter was and realized this is a bad I'm hopeful

670
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: that they would have realized it's a bad idea and

671
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: just you know, left her at a bus stop somewhere.

672
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 1: You know, who knows. But right now, it's highly concerning,

673
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: is all you can. All you can say about the

674
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: facts as they have been presented.

675
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 3: So that press conference has not yet start. But I

676
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: wanted to make sure that we gave you the latest

677
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 3: on that, and we will be running on that press

678
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: conference for the sheriff's updates on Nancy Guthrie.

679
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry. She does not have dementia. She has

680
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: physical limitations. Pardon me. I've read somewhere that she had

681
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: some disability. But she has physical limitations in her movement,

682
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: so she can't go very far, but her mind is

683
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: all totally there.

684
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: Last scene January thirty. First, if you are listening to

685
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: us in Arizona, certainly keep your ice peeled there as

686
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 3: that is where she has disappeared. And again we will

687
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 3: update you on what the latest is here shortly, much

688
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: less serious. I'm out in Los Angeles, buck, So I

689
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: thought that this is very funny, and I thought we

690
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 3: could have some fun with this. The Grammy Awards were

691
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: insanely woke, as one might imagine, and we talked about

692
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: that quite a lot yesterday, and maybe the wokest part

693
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: of the entire Grammy Awards was when Billie Eilish singer

694
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: got up and said, no one is illegal on stolen land.

695
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 3: Here is that cut, I believe cut thirty one from

696
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 3: Sunday night at the Grammys. I love you so much.

697
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: I feel so honored every time I get to be

698
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: in this room, and as grateful as I feel, I

699
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: honestly don't feel like I need to say anything but

700
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: that no one is illegal on stolen land, all right, buck.

701
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 3: I had some fun with this yesterday on the show,

702
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 3: and I pointed out, Hey, if your land is stolen,

703
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 3: the nicest thing you could do is actually give it back.

704
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: And Billie Eilish lives in a multimillion dollar Los Angeles mansion.

705
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: She had just one song of the year, so this

706
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 3: is very funny. The Tongva tribe not familiar with their work.

707
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 3: The Tongva tribe says in the they used to have

708
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 3: the La area great place to be living. If you

709
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 3: were a tribe by the way, I would imagine you

710
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: know nice land in La.

711
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 2: They say.

712
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 3: Billy Eilish is living in a mansion built on their

713
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: ancestral land. As the first people of the Greater This

714
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 3: is the Tongva tribe in a statement of Fox News,

715
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 3: as the first people of the greater Los Angeles basin,

716
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 3: we do understand that her home is situated in our

717
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: ancestral land. Eilish has not contacted our tribe directly regarding

718
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 3: our property.

719
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: They are asking. This is really funny.

720
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 3: Good for them, They're asking Billie Eilish to turn title

721
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 3: to her mansion back over to the Tonga tribe because

722
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: she is living on their stolen land.

723
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: Fuck.

724
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: Do you think that Billy Eilish, who one Song of

725
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: the Year was so fast to say no one is

726
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 3: illegal when we're living on stolen land? Why is Billy

727
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 3: Eilish not willing to turn back over her multimillion dollar mansion.

728
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: I will say too, there are lots of footage, lots

729
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: of drones of this property of hers. Now she stepped

730
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: really in it. To my knowledge, she has not commented

731
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: since they have demanded their land back.

732
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 2: We'll have to just wait and see.

733
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: I have a feeling she's gonna hang on to that

734
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: mansion and not think twice about it. Clay, one thing

735
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: that I was thinking about with the Grammys was that

736
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: I think the state of get ready for it.

737
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: You're ready to.

738
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: Get off my lawn, everybody, you're ready to get off

739
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: my lawn. I think the state speaking of stolen land,

740
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: the state of music today in this country in general.

741
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: Don't tell me oh I love this band, or oh

742
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: but what about this country mus I don't know anything

743
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: about country music. I know I know more about college

744
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: SEC football coaches than I do about country music. So

745
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: don't don't come at me with the country music plays, like, yeah,

746
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: it's actually true. Who is the guy that you're like,

747
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: you don't know who that is?

748
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: Morgan?

749
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because like Morgan Wallen, I'm like, is that

750
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: a rum You're not knowing? Pat Summerle and Morgan Walland

751
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: is a very different universes. But yeah, Morgan Wallen is

752
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: one of the only artist in the world, frankly that

753
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: could sell out stadiums all around the country, and now

754
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: I celebrate his whole catalog, including the throwing the chair

755
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: off the roof apparently.

756
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 2: Anyway. I think the state of.

757
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: Music today in America is absolutely abysmal, absolutely abysmal. I

758
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: think that the stuff that people at first of all,

759
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: everything is auto tuned, everything is.

760
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: Overproduced.

761
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: There's nothing that's I think music has got people complain about.

762
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: And hat tip. Ben Dominic has said something like this

763
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: on X and I liked it. I think he's totally right.

764
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: But I've been thinking this for It's why I like

765
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: this sweet. I've been thinking this for a long time now,

766
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: movies have gotten bad. I think you might be able

767
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: to argue that, like pop music is even worse than

768
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: like the descent of pop music is even worse.

769
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: Than the descent of movies over the last year.

770
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 3: What do you attribute that to? Because I think it's

771
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: certainly true. Is it so movies? I think it's that

772
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: everybody got a rate of being targeted on social media,

773
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 3: So I think the same thing is.

774
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: True for novels.

775
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, if you make a joke that

776
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 3: the wrong person is offended by, or you try to

777
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: write a book if you're a white person, that's from

778
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: the perspective of someone other than a white person, it's oh,

779
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 3: cultural appropriation. Is it just a culture of fear in

780
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: taking risk and everybody's so afraid of being targeted in

781
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 3: a social media era that no, I mean, great art

782
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: requires risk would be my.

783
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: Big picture argument. I think. I think the economics of

784
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: it have have changed a lot.

785
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: I think that I think that it's far for most people,

786
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: it's far less lucrative and far less of a dream

787
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: to be and even just a successful band today than

788
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: it was before. I just I just think think about

789
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: this in the nineties, when you want maybe, and maybe

790
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: this is a gen X millennial thing more than anything else,

791
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: but the whole notion of the garage band that you

792
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: want to get together your buddies and you're gonna have

793
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: You're gonna get together, You're gonna play rock and roll,

794
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: and maybe you'll play at like the school dance and

795
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: then maybe you'll play at a local venue and then

796
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: somebody will sign you to some big record label and

797
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: all this stuff. This is all gone. This doesn't really

798
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: exist the same way. You don't have the same aspiration.

799
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: I don't think people think of rock stars with anywhere

800
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: near They say, first of all, if you look at

801
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: the biggest touring acts in the world today, for the

802
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: most part, with the exception of like a Taylor Swift

803
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: and I can't speak to again, I know nothing about

804
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: the contemporary hip hop scene. I know nothing about it,

805
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: So just put that aside too. I don't know about

806
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: country music.

807
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: I don't know hip hop. But Clay, you look at

808
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 2: the bands that are touring. There are parents bands, Yeah,

809
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: a lot of them are.

810
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: It's Bruce Springsteen, the most overrated music act of all time.

811
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: It's the beat not the Beatles. Sorry, Rolling Stones, Rolling

812
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: Stones That's what I meant. The Rolling Stones, the other ones.

813
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: These bands are still touring. I mean they're rolling these

814
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: guys out there with oxygen tanks attached to them.

815
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

816
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: And these are the bands that are still like, you know,

817
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: doing sellout and everything else. So I think that it's

818
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: very obvious the music industry isn't what it used to be.

819
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: And I'll just say this, you know, I look forward

820
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: to introducing my son when he gets old enough to

821
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are, if you have any

822
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: appreciation for music and you hear like a great ac

823
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: DC riff or you know, even some of the music

824
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: we play on the show as our rejoin music like

825
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: that Tears for Fear song which I love, which was

826
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: my number two behind our theme song to be the

827
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: theme song on this show Rule the World. Those are

828
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,959
Speaker 1: in fifty years people be like, that's a great song.

829
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: There's the music that's being made over the last ten

830
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 1: fifteen years. No one's gonna be like that's a great song.

831
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, what is that? Did someone make

832
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: that with a synthesizer in the room by themselves. It's bizarre,

833
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 1: I would argue, And I'm gonna get people fired up. Now,

834
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: the nineties was the last time when there was great

835
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: original music being per ud across the different bandwidth of

836
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: of audio, right, so you had I would argue the

837
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: peak of rock, meaning diversity of rock, was incredible in

838
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: the nineties. Rap, I would argue, actually, by far peaked

839
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: in the late nineties. If you go look at all

840
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: the different rap artists, you could actually understand what a

841
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: rap artist did back then.

842
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 3: My sons listen to rap. Now it's all this mumble

843
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 3: core stuff. You can't hear anything the guys are saying.

844
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: I mean, if you go.

845
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 3: Back and look at R and B, which I think

846
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: is mostly overrated, but all of it peaked in the

847
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: late nineties in terms of the diversity of music. You

848
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 3: go back and look at all of the different bands

849
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 3: that put out great music, and since then it's collapsed.

850
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: And by the way, it's also collapsed in movies. There's

851
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: nothing funny that's being produced in movies anymore, I think

852
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 3: because they're all on the music.

853
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: Top music acts in the nineties were global superstars with

854
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: tremendous cultural residence. Remember like you two, which now in retrospect,

855
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: I actually would put it. I listened to a lot

856
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: of YouTube in high school, so I'm guilty of this too,

857
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: And some of you're gonna boom me for saying this

858
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: kind of overrated. A lot of the songs kind of

859
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: sound the same. But you Two is sort of like

860
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: Coldplay before there was Coldplay, but.

861
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: They used to travel.

862
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: They'd meet with the Pope and then me with the

863
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: head of the un and ever's oh and music and

864
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: Music's Gonna Save the world and live Aid and all

865
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: these different things that would go on the cultural impact

866
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: of the contemporary music scene. Twenty years ago and earlier

867
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: dwarfs what we have today by far. Honestly, even Taylor Swift,

868
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: she's super successful. I'm telling you this right now. I'm

869
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: calling my shot. Girls are not gonna be listening to

870
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift songs in twenty thirty years. It's forgettable stuff.

871
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 3: Most you're h you're one hundred wrong on that. I

872
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Speaker 3: give Taylor Swift credit. She's got awful politics, she writes

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Speaker 3: her own songs, she produces a new album two years.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying she's not super talented. What's okay, Clay,

875
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: what's the I'm gonna put him on this.

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Speaker 2: I'm not good.

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Speaker 1: Camis for mustache. What's the best Taylor Swift song you're

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Speaker 1: gonna tell us we come back from this break.

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00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 3: I'll do that, and I guarantee you that all the

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00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: girls listening to Taylor Swift now will be rocking out

881
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Speaker 3: to it when they're seventy. By the way, serious press

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Speaker 4: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free

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Speaker 1: Welcome in, everybody to the third hour of the Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Bexton Show.

908
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: Just a news update here for you as we are live.

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00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: We are real time, not.

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Speaker 1: Like some of these podcasts that people put out, mister

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00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: Clay or they like tape it on their way to

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Speaker 1: their beach vacation and then play it a week later

913
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Speaker 1: or something. We're live, baby, We're doing it here for

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Speaker 1: all of you, with you three hours a day, the

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Speaker 1: beauty of radio and are almost six hundred affiliates the

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Speaker 1: beauty of the iHeart app. We are here, We are

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Speaker 1: with you, We are taking your calls, and we are

918
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: bringing you the latest up to the minute.

919
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I gotta say, there's no craziness here. We're live.

920
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: These are the value propositions who bring you we're live,

921
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: we tell you the truth, and we're not nuts like

922
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: some of the folks out there who are building audiences,

923
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: including on the right, who probably.

924
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Speaker 2: Should spend a little time getting some help looking inward,

925
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 2: addressing some of their demons, just saying I'm here to help.

926
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Speaker 2: I'm here to help everybody on the team.

927
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: Now, US drone, I'm sorry, US rather has shot down

928
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: a suspected Iranian drone on approach to an aircraft carrier.

929
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Speaker 1: That is the breaking news in this moment. Nothing too big,

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00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: but just note striving an aircraft carrier. Clay, I had

931
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Speaker 1: a lot of these discussions when I was in Taiwan

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Speaker 1: with the President, National Security Advisor of Taiwan, Vice President.

933
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Speaker 1: The world of surface naval surface warfare is changing very rapidly,

934
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Speaker 1: and the projection of force that is possible aircraft carriers

935
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: is something that is variable insofar as ship killing missiles

936
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Speaker 1: and the technology hypersonic missiles and the technology that is

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Speaker 1: developing very rapidly could turn aircraft carriers into multi billion

938
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Speaker 1: dollar targets. Well they're already targets, but target practice. A

939
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Speaker 1: lot of stuff to look at here in the in

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Speaker 1: the years ahead. But instead of talking about or going

941
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Speaker 1: deeper into my analysis of this national security threat. I

942
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: don't want to forget that Clay who now has two

943
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: things going form, one a brand new mustache, and two

944
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Speaker 1: thinks Taylor Swift is the new Beatles.

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Speaker 2: Do you wish to tell us the greatest?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Me, hold on, let me tell you that. But first,

948
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 2: serious news. We tease that we.

949
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: Can't go to I'm talking your mustache and I'm going

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00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: from a series.

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00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 3: You can't pivot my pivot. Okay, give we don't know

952
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 3: what happened to Nancy Guthrie. I told you that they

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Speaker 3: were going to have a press conference. This is the

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Speaker 3: number one story on every newscast. Nancy Guthrie, mother of

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Speaker 3: Savannah Guthrie. We have a huge audience in Arizona. She

956
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Speaker 3: was taken against her will. There is no surveillance video.

957
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 3: They basically have no idea where she is. The FBI

958
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Speaker 3: is asking if you have tips on this one eight

959
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Speaker 3: hundred call FBI. The FBI is now involved. This is

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Speaker 3: in Tucson, Arizona, and basically no one has any idea

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Speaker 3: what happened to Nancy Guthrie. They believe she was taken

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Speaker 3: against her will and that's it. I mean it's a

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Speaker 3: huge mystery. So there's a lot of interest here one

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Speaker 3: eight hundred at call FBI. So I wanted to make sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I thought maybe we would get info because

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Speaker 3: they had a press conference schedule. But the press conference

967
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Speaker 3: was to let us know that basically they knew nothing.

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Speaker 3: I'm leaving it to you to how you transition back

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Speaker 3: to Taylor Swift, not because that's a very sad, serious story.

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Speaker 3: So I this is all on you, buddy. Now I

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Speaker 3: have to pivot back from a serious uh story to

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Speaker 3: the story that By the way, producer Ali, come up

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Speaker 3: here for a sec. We just talked about Jeffrey Epstein.

974
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Speaker 3: We gave a huge take on Jeffrey Epstein, everything related

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Speaker 3: to Epstein. You are telling me that my take on

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00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift has been considered more controversial, more controversial by

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Speaker 3: this audience than everything we said about Jeffrey Epps. If

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00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 3: you wondered whether the Jeffrey Epstein story is over, you

979
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 3: guys are angrier about my Taylor Swift take.

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00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: Is that correct?

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00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: Yes, there is a waterfall of emails on your Taylor

982
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: Swift and overall music take coming in. All right, the

983
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Speaker 3: people have spoken and the people are correct. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 3: about to turn that deluge. What's more than a deluge?

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00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 3: What would be bigger than a deluge? The the cavalcade

986
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Speaker 3: of emails about.

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Speaker 2: Dee?

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00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: I think that's right. I'm about to turn the delusion

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00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 3: too a tsunami. Taylor Swift is the Beatles of our time.

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Speaker 3: Buck is totally wrong that twenty or thirty years from now,

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Speaker 3: no one will care Taylor Swift. Buck, get ready, twenty

992
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Speaker 3: or thirty years from now, flag this. I hope I'm

993
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 3: alive to take my victory lap. Twenty or thirty years

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00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 3: from now, Taylor Swift will be more popular than she

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Speaker 3: is now. Her music, much like the Beatles, music is

996
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 3: going to endure, and she will be touring much like

997
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 3: the Rolling Stones. As long as she's like Mick Jagger

998
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 3: and can still walk out there and kick her legs,

999
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 3: She's gonna be touring until she's eighty five or ninety

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Speaker 3: if she lives that long, singing all these songs.

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Speaker 2: This is a take that's going to go down in history.

1002
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: Like whoever said that the Internet is gonna be as

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Speaker 1: important as the facts machine? I mean, this is this

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00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: is an all timer for you, Clay. All Right, Taylor Swift,

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00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: you know who, you know who. People would have said

1006
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: this about like the the icon of teenage girls when

1007
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: we were growing up.

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00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, in thirty.

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00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: Years, everyone's going to be listening to the Backstreet Boys. Oh,

1010
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: the Backstreet Boys were huge, the Backstreet Boys in sync,

1011
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: all those boy bands, you could even you could even

1012
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: put them all together, and and you would have thought,

1013
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, there's such a global phenomenon no one

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00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: listens to.

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Speaker 3: In fact, you're wrong about this. They sell out tours

1016
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 3: like crazy.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,919
Speaker 3: There are fifty year old women right now who are

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00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: throwing their radios if they're physical across the room, that

1020
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Speaker 3: spent one thousand dollars with their girlfriends to get good

1021
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 3: seats to the Backstreet A.

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Speaker 2: Single we do not have a single person. We have

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Speaker 2: millions of people.

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00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,959
Speaker 1: We have a We have like the city the size

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00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: of Chicago of listeners right now listening to us. Not

1026
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: a single one of them paid a thousand dollars in

1027
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: the last year for a Backstreet Boys taking of talking

1028
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: crazy talk.

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00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 3: I'm saying with her girlfriends, they might have spent two

1030
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars each for four of them.

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00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: If you went.

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Speaker 3: To the Backstreet Boys at buck Sexton right now, get

1033
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 3: your phones out on Twitter at Clay Travis too.

1034
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: I want you to let me know. I bet there's

1035
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 2: I bet I can.

1036
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: Get you guys to tell Clay to put the whispering

1037
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: Angel down and get with reality here for a second.

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00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: Okay. I don't know if this is crazy or your

1039
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 2: wife right, because we got them.

1040
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: I think it's seventy percent mail if your wife did

1041
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: or you did Backstreet Boy tickets at buck Sexton at

1042
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: Clay Travis all right. As Mark loves to tell me

1043
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: that I'm wrong, which is why we've been such good

1044
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: friends now for over a decade. Uh. He says, the

1045
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: Backstreet Boys have a residency at the Sphere in Vegas

1046
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: that is selling out every night, and it's just crazy.

1047
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 2: That's Vegas, that's not that's not like it's crazy expensive.

1048
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 2: They just had a tour. They were selling out arenas everywhere.

1049
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: All these women talking about something on the scale of

1050
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: the Beatles, Okay, which is what you are.

1051
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 2: This is a this is.

1052
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: A global cultural musical phenomenon that is timeless and has

1053
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: lasted for decades. To say that the Backstreet Boys selling

1054
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: out a venue in Vegas, although it does sound kind

1055
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: of cool. Actually, I might have to go. I kind

1056
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: of want to see the sphere. So here, by the way,

1057
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: is Carrie there. Carrie's gonna spend one thousand dollars on

1058
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: these tickets?

1059
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: Would she?

1060
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: Would she finds out about it? All right, I'm about it.

1061
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: Did I ever tell you this that I that I

1062
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: hooked a buddy of mine up? You know, I'm gonna

1063
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: digressho we're talking music. I was at a birthday party?

1064
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: Was that a birthday party for as?

1065
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: My brother?

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00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: And we went to Atlantic City, which is the New

1067
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 1: York City kid version of Vegas, Baby Vegas last minute.

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00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: We go to Atlantic City and Clay, we're at the Borgotta,

1069
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: which I think is the nicest property in Atlantic City.

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00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: We probably have the manager, I'm probably the manager of

1071
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: the Borgota probably listens to this show. Like we got

1072
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of people that you know,

1073
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: run businesses that listen to the show. I think it's

1074
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Speaker 1: the nicest in Atlantic City. We're at the Borgoda and

1075
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: we're at their club. I don't remember the name of

1076
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: the club, but they're nightclub there. And I'm telling you

1077
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 1: it is there are tumbleweeds blowing through it. Is a sad,

1078
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: sad night at the Borgata at like ten o'clock at

1079
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: night for this birthday night and out of nowhere when

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00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: I tell you, there was an influx of twenty five

1081
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: year old to thirty five year old girls, women and nothing.

1082
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 2: But I've never.

1083
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: Seen anything like this in my life. I was just like,

1084
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: this is we're there. We're a table of guys. We

1085
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Speaker 1: had no women with us. We're hoping to meet some ladies.

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Speaker 1: By the way, one of my friends met his wife

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Speaker 1: this night. A table, yeah, and I introduced them. We're

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Speaker 1: a table by influx. We are the I was. There

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Speaker 1: were some guys there, but we were the only straight

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Speaker 1: guys in this night club.

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Speaker 2: Pretty much. There are a lot of guys, but they

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Speaker 2: were not straight.

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Speaker 1: From my understanding, Madonna had just finished a show at

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Speaker 1: like eleven o'clock at night, a Madonna show, got out

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Speaker 1: and flooded, flood.

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Speaker 2: The place with chicks. It was. It was incredible. It

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Speaker 2: was honestly like Manna from heaven.

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Speaker 1: I've never because no dudes, totally not straight dudes.

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Speaker 2: Eight two two eight a two.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Clay was about to pivot back to

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Speaker 1: like whether.

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Speaker 3: The federal government is back open to extend anybody cared.

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Speaker 3: All right, here's my songs. Uh, bad Blood, love Story,

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Speaker 3: you Belong with Me, I Knew You were Trouble, and

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Speaker 3: Wildest Dreams is my power five, in no particular order

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Speaker 3: for Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: Other can you repeat this? Can you repeat this? My

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Speaker 2: top five?

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Speaker 3: My top five of the modern day Beatle Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 3: And I'll say this, buck, I think Taylor Swift has

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Speaker 3: a more substantial catalog of good songs in the decades

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Speaker 3: ahead than the Beatles do.

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Speaker 1: To five again, just because I want to make bad.

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Speaker 1: I don't actually know any of these songs because no

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Speaker 1: one cares. Go ahead, bad Blood, Love Story, you Belong

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Speaker 1: with Me, I Knew you were Trouble, and Wildest Dreams

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Speaker 1: my power five. The only honorable songs that I know

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Speaker 1: that you've just mentioned is the number five song. The

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Speaker 1: rest of those songs, I don't even know what they are.

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Speaker 3: You I Knew You were Trouble, you Belong with Me,

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Speaker 3: love Story, or bad Blood? Now we got bad Blood.

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Speaker 3: You've never heard that song.

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Speaker 1: I might hear them if they came on, But clay

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Speaker 1: to speak about these in the same breath as the Beatles,

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Speaker 1: I would even say to speak about this in the

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Speaker 1: same breath as like Aerosmith, It's just insane, just insane.

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Speaker 2: And too honorable.

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Speaker 1: Two honorable mentions, shake it off and play shaves's beard off,

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Speaker 1: he goes mustache, and all of a sudden, he's like

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift number one fan.

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Speaker 2: Something's happened here.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, going on mean, which my wife likes

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Speaker 3: because she says I am the mean person in the

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Speaker 3: song Mean Why you got to be so mean? So

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Speaker 3: that is my top five and then two honorable mentions

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Speaker 3: And I'm right. And thirty years from now, if you're

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Speaker 3: still alive, everyone out there listening, you're gonna have to recognize.

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Speaker 3: You know what, Clay Travis nailed this. Taylor Swift is

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Speaker 3: the modern day Beatles and she's going to continue to

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Speaker 3: sell out places forever.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is your most wrong take ever,

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Speaker 1: because that's going to require some digging, but this is

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Speaker 1: definitely like I would say that, this is getting You're

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Speaker 1: getting close to your your craziest Klay Travis take off

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people are going to react to her politics,

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Speaker 3: and I am not endorsing that. I think Taylor Swift

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Speaker 3: is a moron when it comes to her political knowledge.

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Speaker 3: But I'm sure the Beatles, by the way, often had

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Speaker 3: political takes that many people. I mean, Lenin was a

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Speaker 3: comedy he might as well have been Lenin. He was

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Speaker 3: a commedist. Doesn't mean they're not still talented guys. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think Taylor Swift twenty first century the most in

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Speaker 3: the twenty first century since two thousand, the biggest star.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited that on this and this hour of the

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Speaker 3: Clay Travis and Bucks Exton Show, we can all just

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Speaker 3: sit back, relax, and enjoy Clay getting dragged over the

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Speaker 3: metaphorical broken glass of this audience for the next forty

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Speaker 3: five minutes.

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Speaker 2: They are gonna come there.

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Speaker 3: What I think is really funny is we've talked about

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Speaker 3: the Save Act, We've talked about Epstein, all these stories.

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Speaker 3: Epstein is the most controversial story in years. Everybody's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Clay and Buck, you guys nailed that. My take on

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Speaker 3: Taylor Swift is the one that people are.

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Speaker 1: Upset the stuff that people write about you online that

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Speaker 1: is the meanest, which I do see sometimes and I'm

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Speaker 1: always like, I'll fight them. It makes me sad, But

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Speaker 1: the meanest are always the people are mad at you

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Speaker 1: over sports, which I find so funny.

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Speaker 2: Oh they are.

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Speaker 3: That's why the politics thing doesn't It doesn't impact me

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Speaker 3: because if you pick a winner of Alabama Auburn and

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Speaker 3: it's the other side or Ohio State Michigan, Like, politics

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Speaker 3: is small stakes compared to the anger of sports.

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Speaker 1: Fans, they get they get very angry at you. I

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Speaker 1: was like wow, and the sports ball very passionate the

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