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Speaker 3: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Cowboys Nation.

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Speaker 5: Welcome in a Girls Talkboys Talk presented by Invisi line

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Speaker 5: here at eight am in the s OBC Studio. I'm

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Speaker 5: your host, Nicole Hutcheson, alongside Christy Scales, Aisha Morrison. Ladies,

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Speaker 5: it's ton wigo.

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Speaker 4: You don't gotta do it, Okay, I'm livingly awake, are

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Speaker 4: you I am? I'm weiga.

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Speaker 5: I feel awake, sister eight am, Chris, let's go.

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Speaker 4: Can you mess? The tone like that? Cat a pitch?

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Speaker 5: I think it's practice all having a year I practice

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Speaker 5: every day.

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Speaker 4: Shout up to y'all. All right, ladies. Fifty three man

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Speaker 4: roster is complete.

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Speaker 5: Was finalized yesterday at three pm Central Time.

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Speaker 4: A lot of surprises, a.

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Speaker 5: Lot of expectations of guys that we already expected to

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Speaker 5: be on this roster. But look just taking you know,

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Speaker 5: a look at this roster. Let's start with surprises first

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Speaker 5: and then kind of work our way down, and I

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Speaker 5: do want to pose the question after is does this

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Speaker 5: final roster meet shoddies compete every day Mauchrable.

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Speaker 6: Let's start with the surprisers first, Christy Well on defense,

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Speaker 6: it's the rookie Zion Childress, then perry On Winfrey and

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Speaker 6: James Houston. Winfrey and Houston weren't even on the roster

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Speaker 6: at the start of training camp. Houston came in on

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Speaker 6: a tryout with a couple of other defensive linemen and

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Speaker 6: was signed. Childress was third on the depth chart, and

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Speaker 6: then by the second to final week was getting some

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Speaker 6: reps with the first team playing Nickel in the slot

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Speaker 6: at cornerback, and perry On Winfrey was in the UFL.

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Speaker 6: So another success story for Darryl Johnston and the folks

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Speaker 6: of the UFL that we've got a real pipeline working

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Speaker 6: from UFL formerly XFL USFL to the Cowboys. So let's

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Speaker 6: see if he can have the same kind of success

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Speaker 6: that Cavante Turpin has happened.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I feel like this is one of

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Speaker 7: the first roster cuts that I've experienced that I just

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Speaker 7: was like, all right, Like I didn't have a lot

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Speaker 7: of grievances about what went on, Like might be a

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Speaker 7: couple of things I would change, but I'm sure that

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Speaker 7: they have a plan for some ofhow they're executing things.

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Speaker 4: But when you talk about a Zion.

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Speaker 7: Childress, for me, that one might have been one of

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Speaker 7: the biggest surprises.

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Speaker 4: And that maybe the only thing.

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Speaker 7: That surprised me because with this coaching staff, you know,

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Speaker 7: with this Philly game coming up, the Nickel position being

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Speaker 7: what it is, I was very on the phone on

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Speaker 7: whether they were going to be comfortable putting a rook

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Speaker 7: out there and letting them man you know that spot.

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Speaker 4: It's so much responsibility, so.

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Speaker 7: Much communication, and so I was like kind of on

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Speaker 7: the fence, like, are they gonna choose Keymon Hall? We

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Speaker 7: talked about it yesterday. Are they gonna choose Keimon Hall

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Speaker 7: over Zion? And listening to Shady, it sounds like they

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Speaker 7: decided to go with the youth, and so it's a risk.

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Speaker 7: But there I feel like there has been times that

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Speaker 7: I've experienced, like talking and working for this team.

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Speaker 4: Where I've been like, just throw him in the fire,

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Speaker 4: see what happened, and you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 5: I said this on the game broadcast last week about

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Speaker 5: Zion is that last last year at Kentucky, his final

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Speaker 5: year at Kentucky, was his first time playing nickel corner

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Speaker 5: the entire time.

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Speaker 4: He told me that.

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Speaker 5: He said that, you know, originally, you know, my coaches

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Speaker 5: of one single high safety.

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Speaker 4: Looked at Kentucky.

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Speaker 5: But he said he had that relationship with his coaches

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Speaker 4: Just put me a nickel. Put me a nickel. See

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Speaker 5: I promise you, Like, I'm gonna make play. I like

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Speaker 4: That's where I thrive.

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Speaker 5: And you know, Shoddy talking about that, you know, his

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Speaker 5: instincts have jumped off the field, off the film since

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Speaker 4: His physicality, his ability as a blitzer. They also, of course, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, shine a light on Kimon Hall, saying he's a

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Speaker 5: shocker for me was Jalen Brooks. That was someone that

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Speaker 5: you know, I feel like over.

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Speaker 4: The last couple of years has really stood out.

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Speaker 5: And hello, Brianna Oltres is here, way up girl, It's fine.

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Speaker 4: It's great. You know seven am, I mean eight am.

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Speaker 4: While that's crazy.

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Speaker 5: Anyways, Jalen Brooks, you know, back to him, he's been

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Speaker 5: making plays whenever he needs to. He caught a couple

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Speaker 5: camp again last week, I believe as well, so just

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Speaker 5: but best of luck to him. Jalen Brooks has always been,

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Speaker 5: you know, a great player, special player, even better person,

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Speaker 5: and so a lot to look forward to with what

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Speaker 5: he has to come. What's y'all thoughts about duce Vaughn

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Speaker 5: and you know them waiving him and where does y'all

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Speaker 5: kind of stand about this running back room.

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Speaker 6: I think that we were right on it yesterday when

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Speaker 6: we said that it was going to be special teams

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Speaker 6: that cost him the roster spot here. So yeah, he

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Speaker 6: just but at the same time, you can say, well,

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Speaker 6: you're not expecting Miles Sanders to play special teams either,

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Speaker 6: but no, Ultimately it came down to that was how

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Speaker 4: And he was out there. I mean they gave him.

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Speaker 6: Heck, he was even the second team personal protector on punts.

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Speaker 6: So he had opportunities at camp and in preseason to

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Speaker 6: and he could clear waivers you know, thirty one other

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Speaker 6: teams decide not to sign him, he could decide to

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Speaker 6: it's not necessarily over witduce with the Cowboys, but just

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Speaker 6: for the fifty three man roster for now, I pose.

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Speaker 5: The question of do you feel like the final roster

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Speaker 5: meets shoddies compete every day?

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Speaker 4: Mantra and your surprisers.

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Speaker 8: From answer, Well, first, sorry, so I'm a little late,

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Speaker 8: you know WHOA Okay, I would say, well, first of all,

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Speaker 8: when I looked at who was released wave cut, nothing

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Speaker 9: I feel like everything that we talked about was pretty

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Speaker 9: much right on base. And I know there's some people

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Speaker 9: you want to hang on to where you're talking about

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Speaker 9: the Tray Shawn Holdens of the world that were like

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Speaker 9: the camp favorites. But I don't think anyone that was

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Speaker 9: released in I mean, it's as expected.

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Speaker 4: Nothing's going to.

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Speaker 9: Break or make the Dallas Cowboys going forward. I mean

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Speaker 9: that's just the nature of it. But I think it's

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Speaker 9: everything that Schottenheimer said it was going to be. It

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Speaker 9: was some of the rookies getting some spots that maybe

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Speaker 9: surprise some. It was some veterans having to work for

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Speaker 9: their spots, and nothing's guaranteed.

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Speaker 4: The compete every day.

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Speaker 9: When you're talking about the James Houstons of the world,

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Speaker 9: is very happy they found a spot for him film

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Speaker 9: offa Jaden Blue. Those things that were earned. From what

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Speaker 9: I saw going back to Oxnard, Surprises, I think we

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Speaker 4: I was kind of.

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Speaker 9: Getting the feeling about Izzy. I guess to me, if

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Speaker 9: pay him the back in March, and just the fact

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Speaker 9: that he was the veteran in the group. He was

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Speaker 9: playing some safety, he was playing some Nickel. They were

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Speaker 9: So I could think that was probably for me the

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Speaker 9: biggest surprise, if you will. But the awesome Richards wasn't.

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Speaker 9: I feel like we saw him kind of, you know,

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Speaker 9: it looks like they'll be able to utilize them more

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Speaker 4: But yeah, that's probably it for me. And on the mukuamu.

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Speaker 6: With that new deal, it was one year, one point

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Speaker 6: seventy five million with five hundred k guaranteed, So that

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Speaker 6: five hundred thousand dollars is going to be the dead money.

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Speaker 5: You know, you can do a five hundred k.

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Speaker 4: I can do a lot. I can take a little

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Speaker 5: Which room do y'all feel like is the deepest now?

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Speaker 6: I think wide receiver And to tell you the room

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Speaker 4: And that's linebacker. Linebacker. Yeah, I'm sorry for thee.

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Speaker 7: No, it's a it's a I mean when that was

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Speaker 7: and that's not typically the case. Obviously, the defensive ind

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Speaker 7: get Micah back, yeah it's gonna be stronger. Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 7: But I do think that that that linebacker room does

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Speaker 7: what's going on in the defensive line. And then when you

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Speaker 7: talk about the competition portion of it, Nicole, I wanted

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Speaker 7: to definitely say that I thought that the even the

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Speaker 7: as soon as it was clear that Nate Thomas like

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Speaker 7: I think that's when things kind of got a little

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Speaker 7: sticky with Awesome. And then after that you saw them

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Speaker 7: Thomas just came in and competed, like we're talking about, Nicole,

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Speaker 7: and that is what I took away from the cuts.

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Speaker 4: That's I took. That's what I took away from.

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Speaker 7: The cuts was they're serious about you comp competing for

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Speaker 7: your spot. Doesn't matter how young you are, if this

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Speaker 7: I felt like what Perryon like the film was undeniable.

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Speaker 4: So to see that he.

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Speaker 7: Made this roster, to see that children's made the roster,

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Speaker 7: To see like Houston who worked his tail off, and

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Speaker 7: then you know, there were guys that have been here

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Speaker 7: like Tyrus whed like, there were other gentlemen that have

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Speaker 7: Yeh, No, No, we are very well rare. Yes for

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Speaker 4: This is not the completed roster.

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Speaker 7: But as it stands right now, which what you have

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Speaker 9: You have proven production. That's the big one. It's proven talented.

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Speaker 9: But I think even though I'm not saying it's good

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Speaker 7: Have well I think Christy made a really good point

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Speaker 7: They are going to try to have different fronts and

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Speaker 7: And for me, I do feel like not having Michael

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Speaker 4: There is nothing like in practice.

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Speaker 4: Are they gonna do that as much? What are we

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Speaker 7: Are they gonna, like Mica takes tight ends out of

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Speaker 7: Who's gonna step up in that meantime to have that

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, I don't lie. I feel like

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Speaker 9: The beginning with Mike Zimmer and what I was hearing

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Speaker 9: But I think with Micah, this this defense is around him.

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Speaker 4: I think the group that they have, like I said,

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Speaker 9: Confidence, but there is no other Michael Parsons on this

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And to the point of the takeaways, it's how

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Speaker 6: And then the other thing is with the run game, right,

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Speaker 7: But you said.

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Speaker 10: Stop?

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Speaker 4: Would you say stop it?

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Speaker 5: That's funny that we're talking about Michael Parsons and what

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Speaker 4: That's pretty dope. Oh god, oh no, I'm sorry, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, it's just and again, hey, hopefully he gets the extension,

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Speaker 5: Well, that's what Shoddy said, that he'll have a ramp

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Speaker 6: And even just having him available, knowing even if it's

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Speaker 7: The yeah for that if he out if he's out

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Speaker 7: Dante Fowler very important. Oh so DIGGI zoo getting this

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Speaker 4: They gotta do. They gotta guard that slow for it.

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Speaker 7: And then they got Land and Dickerson that they don't

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Speaker 4: You love to have a lip been out there for that.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about this defensive tackle room though you'll satisfied,

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Speaker 7: Have Randy Jackson say it's going to be.

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Speaker 7: Bringing Perry on Winfrey, Uh, him earning his spot, his story,

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Speaker 7: And so I am happy that he is here I

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Speaker 4: It's gonna ask a lot of your.

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Speaker 7: Please cheat a little bit.

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Speaker 4: It's all right to cheat a little bit if you can.

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Speaker 6: Should we call it a work in progress?

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Speaker 4: It's just too Yeah, here's something.

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Speaker 7: I trust.

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Speaker 7: Track record, and coach white Cotton and of course coach

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Speaker 7: to get Fangio's system. Yeah, and so it's like, let's

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Speaker 5: Cowboys defensive tackle Perry On Winfrey talk about we're.

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Speaker 5: With his little human that's adorable. Welcome back in the

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Speaker 5: you gotta love moments like that. You know, Setenheim are

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Speaker 5: also talking about it yesterday. You know, he had some

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Speaker 5: perry On Winfrey Ladies being one of them.

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Speaker 6: Christy Yeah, just uh Shoddy saying that he teared up

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Speaker 6: because perry On was was tearing up, and he brought

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Speaker 6: and Shoddy knew that perry On would be thinking that

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Speaker 6: that he's coming, but he wanted to be able to

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Speaker 6: tell him face to face that he had made the team.

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Speaker 6: And this is a young man who's had a circuitous

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Speaker 6: journey to the NFL to the Cowboys, and kid from

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Speaker 6: Illinois who didn't you know, didn't academically qualify and had

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Speaker 6: to go to the junior college route before getting to

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Speaker 6: major college football and then Oklahoma and then drafted by

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Speaker 6: Cleveland in the fourth round and got waived twenty twenty

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Speaker 6: three and some off the field issues with Cleveland, and

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Speaker 6: then to the Jets out of the NFL, then to

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Speaker 6: the UFL. Birmingham made all UFL, and then to Cowboys camp.

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Speaker 6: And you can see he has a lovely family. And

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Speaker 6: these are the guys that come back after making a mistake,

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Speaker 6: and as Shoddy said, they appreciate it more because they

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Speaker 6: know that they nearly lost it, right, they near they

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Speaker 6: nearly lost their opportunity, and so it means even more

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Speaker 6: to them.

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Speaker 4: Are you huh No, No, No.

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Speaker 7: First of all, the kid is no, I'm laugh I

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Speaker 7: don't let y'all. I was trying not to laugh because

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Speaker 7: I know it's very serious. But I was just thinking

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Speaker 7: about the fact that, like the Cowboys have a tendency

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Speaker 7: to do this, and then I was thinking, what's that

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Speaker 6: Channel channel with all the Christmas lifetime to No, that's

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Speaker 6: what I first thought about, and I said, they just

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Speaker 6: they just no. This is when this is when carry

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Speaker 6: On put out himself though right, no, and I agree,

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Speaker 6: but I just feel like this is the time.

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Speaker 4: This isn't the first time.

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Speaker 7: This isn't the first time that the Cowboys have found

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Speaker 7: a player that has this amount of talent that maybe

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Speaker 7: just hasn't gotten it hasn't felt right for them. They've

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Speaker 4: The results. So for me, I mean it takes a lot,

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Speaker 7: Story it's not a traditional story. It's what I mean.

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Speaker 7: It's that there's some there's some uncertainty in these stories.

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Speaker 7: And then these guys get here and you see him perform,

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Speaker 7: you see him play, and like with Perryon, I really

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Speaker 7: do believe like it was very evident, very clear, like oh,

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Speaker 7: this guy has something special. So then I went to

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Speaker 7: the length, you see how he extends, you see how

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Speaker 7: can be actually too for some of those centers. I

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Speaker 7: think his skill set is needed, especially in this NFL.

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Speaker 7: But I think his skill set is specifically needed for

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Speaker 4: And he's a scheme fit.

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Speaker 7: He fits really what Eberflus was looking for. So him

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Speaker 7: making the team only made sense to me. I think

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Speaker 7: he makes you better.

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Speaker 4: Right now, and I'm good for him. I saw it

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Speaker 9: I'm glad you guys, everything about it is cute personally

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Speaker 9: as a journalist, as a storyteller, I hang my hat

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Speaker 9: so that I think that's why that touches me so much.

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Speaker 9: And you know, as a former uh two year community

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Speaker 9: And I think everybody at this table has a story, right,

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Speaker 9: We've all been the underdog at some point, We've all

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Speaker 9: overcame stuff. So he's just someone that I feel like,

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Speaker 9: I'm so happy it worked out because when I was

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Speaker 9: I remember talking to somebody, a veteran at camp, and

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Speaker 9: he says, my job is to remind the guys that

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Speaker 9: they're fighting for their football lives or not fighting for

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Speaker 9: their lives. And I feel like maybe Perryon win if

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Speaker 9: you felt like he was fighting for his.

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Speaker 4: Actual life a little bit. So very very happy to

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Speaker 4: see him and obviously earned it.

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Speaker 5: So will you guys talk about perry On who fits

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Speaker 5: this scheme of other guys on the offensive side of

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Speaker 5: the ball that fits this offensive scheme that they have

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Speaker 5: selected as male Sanders, Davonte Williams, Jaden, Blue Force Film,

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Speaker 5: MafA as well, but talking about those three guys, you know,

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Speaker 5: what does that say about you know, Shaddy's offensive vision

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Speaker 5: and what kind of approach do you feel like they're

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Speaker 5: are they expecting one guy to eventually emerge as running

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Speaker 6: Well, don't you think that they want to they for

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Speaker 6: one to emerge. They'd love for Javonte Williams to emerge

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Speaker 6: as the main guy, right, But they've got if they

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Speaker 6: need to, they could do committee.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I think that running back is kind of like quarterbacks

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Speaker 6: one lead dog, right, So I would love to have

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Speaker 6: was on the fifty three man, they can go ahead

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Speaker 6: But I really, I really don't know how it's going

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Speaker 6: it sets up your play action.

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Speaker 7: Pass absolutely, and I can tell that that's a lot

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Speaker 7: They want to do boots and waggles and stuff like

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Speaker 7: the running game. But as far as the running back room,

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Speaker 7: I ain't even gonna hold you. I know nothing about nothing.

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Speaker 4: Now, what I will say is that what I do

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Speaker 7: The run scheme from what I've seen from Clayton Adams

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Speaker 7: some of the things that they're doing are similar to

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Speaker 4: Like, okay, I can get an idea of that. Cool.

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Speaker 4: To get these guys to do at a high level.

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Speaker 7: And I felt like the double teams and some of

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Speaker 7: I expect that from the ones. So I will say

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Speaker 7: seen Javonte. We saw very little from Miles Sanders. We've

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Speaker 7: seen Jayden Blue to an extent. Sounds like he's gonna

659
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Speaker 7: be ready to go. That's good, but I'm still keeping

660
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Speaker 7: an eye on his ankle. It's just kind of a

661
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Speaker 7: lot of wait and see sisters.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because really the only action we saw with Yvante

663
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Speaker 6: and really first team run game was the Rams joint practice.

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Speaker 4: And it was awful.

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Speaker 6: The Yeah, the Rams defense was better on the line.

666
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Speaker 7: Yeah, he was the only one that There was a

667
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Speaker 7: couple of times where they just had some swinging passes

668
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Speaker 7: to him and you could see him be a little

669
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Speaker 7: bit more physical because they were thumping out there and

670
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Speaker 7: he was, Okay, I'll match your energy a little bit.

671
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Speaker 7: But he's a difficult god to get a grasp on

672
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Speaker 7: when you can't tackle, because that is what makes him

673
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Speaker 7: who he is. He also is a receiving threat as

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Speaker 7: a running back as well, and they not showing on that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so we ain't seen nothing, girl, What you think

676
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Speaker 9: I fear I'm going to be saying what I was

677
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 9: saying A lot last year running back by committee. But

678
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Speaker 9: I will say I have a little more faith in

679
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 9: this running back by committee because I felt kind of

680
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 9: felt like we were forced to say that last year

681
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Speaker 9: because there wasn't a true running back one and like

682
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Speaker 9: Christy was saying, we don't really know what Javonte Williams

683
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Speaker 9: is going to be. It's pretty clear that that's who

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Speaker 9: they feel like is there are b one But I

685
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Speaker 9: think when you look at all three backs that they kept, like,

686
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Speaker 9: you know, we know Javonte Williams is that physical back, right,

687
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Speaker 9: I look at him like a power, inside zone.

688
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 4: Run type of guy.

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Speaker 9: And then we have you know Sanders, who I feel

690
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Speaker 9: like he in my opinion, is in what I was seeing,

691
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 9: even going back to OTAs will be the one more

692
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Speaker 9: gets involved than that passing game, if you will. And

693
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Speaker 9: then Jadeen Blue, I knew he was making this team

694
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Speaker 9: because he brings something different than both those more explosive

695
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Speaker 9: guy who brings and.

696
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Speaker 4: It can change the pace of the game.

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Speaker 9: So I do think it's going to be a running

698
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Speaker 9: back by committee type of approach. I just have more

699
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Speaker 9: faith in this group and the coaches they brought in

700
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Speaker 9: to make it a little more successful than what we

701
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Speaker 9: saw last year. Do I think it's going to happen

702
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 9: right away. No, because I'm remembering what Chrissy was talking

703
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 9: about with that joint practice. It was a very much

704
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 9: scary stuff happening. But I think once they get in

705
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 9: the flow of things, I think those three things that

706
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Speaker 9: I mentioned with each of those backsts, and then it

707
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Speaker 9: also depends if they can stay healthy, like Miles Sanders

708
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 9: has not been healthy. So I think for me, when

709
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Speaker 9: I was making my running back list and at that time,

710
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Speaker 9: film Afa was healthy, I didn't know if Miles Sanders

711
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 9: was going to hang just because I just felt like

712
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 9: he was the kind of the question mark. Yes he's

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Speaker 9: the veteran, but it's clear they're going with the veterans

714
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Speaker 9: in this group and that little spice that Blue brings,

715
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Speaker 9: and then we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 5: When I think for me, it's more so like how

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Speaker 5: long is it going to take for us to fit

718
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Speaker 5: year it out? If we are going to be a

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Speaker 5: running back by committee approach, or if you know you're

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Speaker 5: gonna go.

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Speaker 4: With just one guy as the lead back.

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Speaker 5: And that's you know, unfortunate because you did see Miles

723
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Speaker 5: Sanders in the preseason a little bit. You didn't get

724
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Speaker 5: a chance to see Javonte Williams in the preseason.

725
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Speaker 4: But you saw the other guys.

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Speaker 5: Uh So, how long do y'all feel like it will

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Speaker 5: take for those guys to kind of figure the coaching

728
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Speaker 5: staff to kind of figure that out.

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Speaker 4: I guess it depends.

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Speaker 7: I guess it depends just because I think, as a whole, again,

731
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Speaker 7: this is a new scheme, this is a new feel.

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Speaker 7: I do think with the run game, in particular the

733
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Speaker 7: offensive line, it's gonna take them time to jail, especially

734
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Speaker 7: since you're not even sure you know, I hope you

735
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Speaker 7: get Gutten back for a week one, we don't know

736
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Speaker 7: for sure yet in those things. So I do think

737
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 7: as a whole that unit's gonna take some time to mesh,

738
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 7: and that's gonna affect what your runners look like. And

739
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Speaker 7: then also too, what is a situation call for because Babe, yeah,

740
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Speaker 7: when you going up there against Philly, if that's what

741
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 7: you want, if you want to bay your head against

742
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 7: the wall, I think you need to run situationally. But

743
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 7: their secondary has things that you can take advantage of.

744
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 7: So I do think it depends situationally. But when the

745
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 7: run game in itself how long is it gonna take.

746
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 7: I hope it don't take to miss season. I can

747
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 7: say that, I hope, I hope that we're not sitting

748
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 7: here looking around like Jayden Blue is clearly the fresher

749
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 7: legs or whatever the case may be. And I do

750
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 7: think that that has something to do with what they

751
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Speaker 7: chose to do with fil MafA A Listen.

752
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Speaker 4: Y'all got to figure out what jograph going on or else.

753
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Speaker 7: So anyway, I do think I don't want it to

754
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 7: take forever. I feel like it, and I think a

755
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 7: little bit we should feel a little better with what

756
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 7: happened with the roster as of right now, because that

757
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 7: lets you know that it don't take forever. Like Zion

758
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 7: Childrens emerged through the latter part exactly, who's the other

759
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 7: gentleman Flinoy emerged through the latter part, consistent through, But

760
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Speaker 7: that latter part is.

761
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Speaker 4: What really pushed them through.

762
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Speaker 7: And I think the coaches saw, they saw that, and

763
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 7: they responded to that. So hopefully that makes me feel

764
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Speaker 7: that makes.

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Speaker 4: Y'all feel little bit.

766
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Speaker 7: It made me feel a litt bit better, like maybe

767
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 7: ain't gonna take fever because you ain't got time forever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, need a run game.

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Speaker 6: I'm really curious to see how much they do the

770
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 6: formation where you put Hunter Lipke back there truly as

771
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Speaker 6: a fullback. How much are we gonna see twenty one?

772
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 6: That's a formation. Twenty one means you have two running

773
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Speaker 6: back fullback end and running back and just one tight end.

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Speaker 6: Cowboys and most teams she usually are in a twelve

775
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Speaker 6: just one person in the backfield, two tight ends. But

776
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 6: I'm just but see it's gonna change week to week.

777
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 6: That's the thing. There's so many weapons on this offense

778
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 6: and you have so many guys who are versatile that

779
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 6: truly week to week it can change based on the

780
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Speaker 6: chess match with the other defense.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think, what's happened how with this offense? Like, really,

782
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 9: the run game just needs to start off serviceable, please, right,

783
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 9: because the passing game is supposed to be what the

784
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 9: spark is. So if you just can get it going,

785
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 9: let the offense. What I'm thinking, this identity of this

786
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 9: offense can be a Bengals team but that can run

787
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 9: the ball is basically how I'm looking at this offense.

788
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 4: And then I think as the season.

789
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 9: Goes, like I say, mid season, maybe it starts to

790
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 9: look a little more spicy, right, because they're getting that continuity.

791
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Speaker 9: The O line I'm putting in the air stays healthy

792
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 9: and just lean on your passing game and let the

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Speaker 4: But if it starts off.

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Speaker 9: What Rocky getting, you know, stuff to the run, can't

796
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 9: stay healthy, and I think that's when.

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Speaker 6: practice squad, but I think he's your swing tackle. I

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Speaker 6: agree and then Ernest Brown if he's not on the

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Speaker 6: sign to the fifty three, if you're able to get

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Speaker 6: him on a practice squad, but you may have to

877
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Speaker 6: get him on your fifty three.

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Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: I'm thinking if they on the file, they might find

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Speaker 7: someone that they think might be better suited, even though

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Speaker 7: I know they were high on Ernest Sure.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. And then one question with Will Grier, do you

883
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Speaker 6: do practice squad and have him as that or do

884
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Speaker 6: you bring him on your fifty three man roster or

885
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Speaker 6: do y'all think that the third quarterback comes from a

886
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Speaker 6: different team.

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Speaker 4: That's a good question. I think the everhood is out there.

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Speaker 5: Who's available right now?

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00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a thing.

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00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 9: That's that's the big There was so many swaps the

891
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 9: other day with all the backup keebs.

892
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Speaker 6: I think it's going to be greer. But the question

893
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 6: is is whether you do fifty three man or practice squad.

894
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,479
Speaker 4: It depends. It might depend on how many.

895
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Speaker 6: But the main thing about the practice squad is so

896
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Speaker 6: you'll you'll Cowboys can have seventeen because of Denzel Jackson

897
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Speaker 6: being an international player. He's from the Bahamas, by the way,

898
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Speaker 6: So week to week you can elevate two players. So

899
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Speaker 6: you're going to have this long list of players and

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Speaker 6: then each game you can decide to make two available

901
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Speaker 6: for that game day. But once a player has been

902
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 6: elevated throughout the season three times, that's the most he

903
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 6: can be elevated. If you needed him to play more

904
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Speaker 6: than that, you would have to sign him to your

905
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Speaker 6: fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think it also depends on because Shoddy also talked

908
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Speaker 5: about you know, they're not done yet, so who they

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Speaker 5: bring sure prioritized.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you bring in practice squad guys for your practice

911
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 6: squad that were cut by other NFL.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we might see guys like that's the thing

913
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Speaker 7: about this time, And I think that that's kind of

914
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Speaker 7: a I'm not sure if it has any validity, but

915
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 7: the big cut must be really good or really bad

916
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Speaker 7: for teams, like the way that they do it now,

917
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Speaker 7: it has to be probably stressful for some of the

918
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 7: scouts today because it's so much going on. But I

919
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 7: do think that they're probably is guys that get lost

920
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 7: in the shuffle and stuff like that, or like you

921
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 7: can navigate it a little bit better than it would

922
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 7: it be in one big cut. But yeah, I want

923
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Speaker 7: to see if they are going to be aggressive, which

924
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Speaker 7: I think and they typically are.

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Speaker 4: We're trying to get.

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Speaker 7: Some guys signed during this time, so there might be

927
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Speaker 7: some gentlemen that we think might be on the practice

928
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Speaker 7: squad that they might think that they there's another guy

929
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Speaker 7: that's better suited for that spot. So we'll see how

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Speaker 7: it goes.

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Speaker 6: I didn't I have do Spawn on my list as well, Like,

932
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Speaker 6: don't remember if I mentioned him, So we'll see.

933
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Speaker 4: No, I think I agree with you guys.

934
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Speaker 9: I feel like, well, to me, my gut is telling me, well,

935
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Speaker 9: we will be on a practice squad.

936
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Speaker 4: That's just the feeling I have.

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Speaker 9: I think they're selling the Joe Milton confidence, and that's

938
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Speaker 9: just how I feel like it's going to go.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be simple. Will girl on the practice squad?

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Speaker 4: Joe Milton's are due? If anything goes wrong, yeah, time

941
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 4: will tell hours. How many hours it got left?

942
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Speaker 5: Like ten?

943
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Speaker 10: So many days?

944
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 4: So many hours?

945
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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, there's twenty four hours to clear waivers and

946
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 6: then once once players clear waivers, then they can sign

947
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Speaker 6: with whomever they want to sign.

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Speaker 4: So we'll startmorrow.

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Speaker 5: Yes, okay, the maths math math wasn't mathing, ladies, my brain. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: well the math is mathing for Countdown for Philly next Thursday.

951
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Speaker 5: He's gotta be a lot of fun. But the ladies

952
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Speaker 5: are back here tomorrow at eight a m. Make sure

953
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Speaker 5: to wake up with us because you won't forget it.

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Speaker 5: For breonn Addridge, for Christy Scales, for Ayisha Morrison, Nicole

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Speaker 5: had just say, we'll see y'all back here tomorrow.

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