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Speaker 1: for another episode of Nightcap. As you watch the Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens run their record to three and five with a
Speaker 1: twenty eight sixth victory over the Miami Guppies, who falled
Speaker 1: two and seven. No one should be surprised by this
Speaker 1: given how well Lamar Jackson has played against the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Why would you pick against them with him in the
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Speaker 1: Excuse me, but the game that you just watched. Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson threw for four touchdowns. Three went the tight ends.
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews called two, Kohler called another one, and then
Speaker 1: he found scrambled and found Raseean Bateman on another touchdown.
Speaker 1: Deck Henry nineteen rushes one hundred and nineteen yards back
Speaker 1: to being the Dereck Henry that we all know and love.
Speaker 1: But I thought Lamar Jackson in four weeks, five weeks
Speaker 1: of his absence, he came back into the ball really
Speaker 1: really well tonight eighteen of twenty three, two hundred and
Speaker 1: four yards, four touchdowns, no interceptions. He did. He was
Speaker 1: sacked two times, but the Ravens didn't turn the ball
Speaker 1: over and they forced the Dolphins to turn it over.
Speaker 1: And when you have a situation like that team like Baltimore,
Speaker 1: you cannot turn the ball over against him and give
Speaker 1: them short fields because bad things gonna happen with that
Speaker 1: quarterback in that running back. And I thought, I thought
Speaker 1: overall as a team, O Joe, I thought they played
Speaker 1: really well. But I thought Lamar Jackson was really crisp
Speaker 1: in his return to the.
Speaker 3: Fact that he was able to miss as many games
Speaker 3: as you did to come back and look like he
Speaker 3: never missed a beat. He was efficient in the pocket,
Speaker 3: extending plays, you know, hitting tight ends. The play calling
Speaker 3: was really well, was really good. I was curious to
Speaker 3: see when he had to scramble, when he had to
Speaker 3: move and make it, make sudden movements and be twisty,
Speaker 3: it would it affect him? Would he still be.
Speaker 1: He wasn't trying to do that, Joe. He wasn't trying
Speaker 1: to do because there's some times he could have scrambled
Speaker 1: us in the.
Speaker 3: Middle, but you can tell he was comfortable. When he
Speaker 3: did have to take off the run, he was able
Speaker 3: to do so. And so that lets me know his
Speaker 3: hand fringer is good. They have what almost ten days
Speaker 3: off where he can rend and you can get itself
Speaker 3: back fully healthy all the way to one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: But you gotta understand that eighty five ninety Lamar Jackson
Speaker 3: is still very, very very good quarterback, still top three
Speaker 3: in the NFL right now.
Speaker 4: Outside of it, I'm upset and I.
Speaker 2: Have why are you saying I have a student.
Speaker 3: I have to I have to stop doing this chat
Speaker 3: and this this this is for y'all. I just want
Speaker 3: to apologize to all the Ravens fans that are that
Speaker 3: are in the chat.
Speaker 4: I have to do something. I have to stop betting
Speaker 4: with my heart.
Speaker 2: I have to start.
Speaker 4: I got to stop betting with my heart.
Speaker 3: I have to, you know, start using my mind and
Speaker 3: and understanding where teams are.
Speaker 4: Now. I was, I was, I was, I was.
Speaker 3: I was fooled by last week performance by the Dolphins
Speaker 3: and thinking that momentum would carry on into this week.
Speaker 4: Was why was it? Why I was so high in regard.
Speaker 3: To thinking that they would win this game with Lamar
Speaker 3: Jackson coming back even though it was his first game,
Speaker 3: even though he's played well against the Dolphins.
Speaker 2: But he was No, he's played great.
Speaker 1: No other quarterback has ever played this well against an
Speaker 1: opponent like he's place.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, but he had missed games, so I
Speaker 3: thought he would be maybe a little rusty.
Speaker 4: Maybe the maybe the play call of winder.
Speaker 3: Ben Is is as efficient as he looked tonight.
Speaker 4: Maybe the running game might not might not have been good.
Speaker 3: We haven't seen Derrick Curry run the ball like this
Speaker 3: tonight as as of to day yet you know, this season,
Speaker 3: so I thought, you know, the chances might have been
Speaker 3: in the dolphins favor if they can perform not turn
Speaker 3: the ball over and too it can be the tour
Speaker 3: he was when they played Atlanta Falcons last week, you know,
Speaker 3: and in the words of a very good friend of mine,
Speaker 3: Sweet Jesus, my dog brother McKinnie, I just I don't
Speaker 3: know what else to do. And then from now on,
Speaker 3: for the rest of the season, I will be betting
Speaker 3: with common sense and choosing teams that I like, that
Speaker 3: I like and know we're going to win the game
Speaker 3: no matter what.
Speaker 1: You don't know, but you know that the Guppies weren't
Speaker 1: gonna win. You out there betting on Twitter making us
Speaker 1: look back list.
Speaker 3: Well, well, technically it's my team. And when when your
Speaker 3: Ravens play, well they're not your Ravens. You was on
Speaker 3: there for two weeks.
Speaker 4: But when you're.
Speaker 3: Listen when you're Bronck, when you're Hey, when you when
Speaker 3: you're Broncos playing, when your Broncos played, that's your team,
Speaker 3: and you bet with them regards to who they're playing.
Speaker 3: When my Bengals played, I bet with them regards who
Speaker 3: I'm playing. When the Dolphins, you should be with Newis
Speaker 3: you stay with me a little bit right when the
Speaker 3: Dolphins play. People need to understand I am from Miami.
Speaker 3: I was born in Dade County. I'm come from a
Speaker 3: beautiful place. It's like the Caribbean. It's called Liberty City.
Speaker 3: I grew up in the forties all my life, born
Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty eight at Jackson Royal Hospital. That is
Speaker 3: where my love for the Dolphins come from. Because that's
Speaker 3: all I That's all I knew growing up as a child.
Speaker 3: So I still try to have that same leegiance towards unlearned.
Speaker 2: Huh, unlearned.
Speaker 4: I know it's hard though.
Speaker 2: You play.
Speaker 1: I didn't pick that up from Dick Sporting good. I
Speaker 1: didn't order that from NFL shop dot com.
Speaker 4: I'm a raving you play there for you play there for.
Speaker 1: Two years, years to two years, won five playoff games?
Speaker 2: Is that good?
Speaker 4: It's all right? I mean, y'all, I don't want game
Speaker 4: because of the defense. Not I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I didn't get. I didn't win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl MVP. But I guarantee you my ring
Speaker 1: got just as many diamonds as Ray Lewis.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you I.
Speaker 1: Got I got a ring too, My my, my, my,
Speaker 1: my jersey number eighty two got a Super Bowl passed
Speaker 1: that says super Bowl x x X Norman normal five V,
Speaker 1: which means super Bowl thirty five. So I don't know
Speaker 1: what you're talking.
Speaker 3: Listen, the cars you was there, that was for you.
Speaker 3: The cars I was there. I wasn't able to go
Speaker 3: to those Super Bowl I wouldn't. I wasn't able to
Speaker 3: host no trophy. I wasn't able to get no ring.
Speaker 3: I did all I could.
Speaker 2: To get there, you know, go ahead, go ahead, carry on.
Speaker 4: All I do I I could do to get there,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: And and the words of my good brother on Instagram,
Speaker 3: Jay McKinney on sweet Jesus, I did. I did my
Speaker 3: job the best of my ability. It's a team game.
Speaker 3: I think I held up my end of the bargain.
Speaker 2: You hear me, Yeah, I think I held up my
Speaker 2: end of the bargain.
Speaker 4: You putting that up there like that's the real thing.
Speaker 2: Whoa, oh choe, it could be whatever I got them.
Speaker 4: You ain't the only one got your phone on. You
Speaker 4: ain't the only one got trophies.
Speaker 3: I might not have been able to get a trophy
Speaker 3: on the field, but I'm getting them off the field.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 3: What you're saying, What you're trying to do what you're
Speaker 3: trying to do? I mean he talk talk nice to
Speaker 3: me now, talk talk nice to me.
Speaker 4: On some of the mind nine some some of the
Speaker 4: mine over there too. Nine he chat?
Speaker 2: You got your hey.
Speaker 4: Chat, y'all? See the trophies? Are you seeing plaques? You
Speaker 4: see my plaux? Look at a chat, y'all? See my
Speaker 4: pleues in my night cap?
Speaker 1: Sign?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 1: With all these brings on, y'all, they think I high
Speaker 1: jack the eighteen wheeler with all these springs I got.
Speaker 1: You see all these brings like I high eighteen wheeler?
Speaker 4: Time out? You got all the goddamn awards?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: Wow? How I got all these awards? How do you
Speaker 2: get awards? You win them?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But when you're gonna send me my stuff you got, y'all?
Speaker 4: You got like you got like thirty two awards and
Speaker 4: I got two?
Speaker 1: Well, go find the wars you had last year, the
Speaker 1: one you took off stage. I don't know what happened
Speaker 1: to you?
Speaker 2: You know them?
Speaker 1: Hey? Man?
Speaker 4: What he you can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: Sister took them? Man, she ain't shein't evenna give me
Speaker 4: them back?
Speaker 2: Oh wow, don't you what you want to send me
Speaker 2: some of them? We we don't replace awards.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, let me tell you something. Let me tell
Speaker 3: you what I just boy, you know what I got
Speaker 3: out there?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: You hear me?
Speaker 4: For Saturday show? We have Saturday Show. I got some
Speaker 4: floating shells that's gonna go right under the plaques.
Speaker 3: I got like, I got full floating shells, right, and
Speaker 3: I got them staggered a little bit so I could
Speaker 3: put all my trophies on. Hey, so hey, you see
Speaker 3: that I need I need, I need I need that
Speaker 3: na A c P.
Speaker 4: I need, I need, I need two of them.
Speaker 2: You hear me? Goodness, gracious the cables?
Speaker 4: What the cash? That?
Speaker 3: What I would I would like to I would like
Speaker 3: to decorate my game room so I could be professional.
Speaker 2: What they got?
Speaker 4: What they got to do with?
Speaker 3: Because you have you have, you have all awards. I
Speaker 3: thought this was a team effort. This was this was
Speaker 3: done to It was two people that did this.
Speaker 2: Well she she took all your awards by back. Hold on,
Speaker 2: hey see.
Speaker 4: I need where you got you got to the where
Speaker 4: are at? I want to I want to put them
Speaker 4: up today. I want to put him up tomorrow.
Speaker 2: They won't be here tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: The good thing I got good news, like I said.
Speaker 1: The good news is you got to of the coming.
Speaker 1: The bad news I got four of them coming. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: I just listen.
Speaker 3: I want to dec decorate my game room, so I
Speaker 3: need I need too.
Speaker 1: You got the awards. I can't help it that you
Speaker 1: let somebody you gifted them.
Speaker 3: The listen I had, I had listen. Sometimes I was
Speaker 3: in I was in a hurry. I had to I
Speaker 3: had to go.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what you want me to tell,
Speaker 1: Yojo Man, look at all these springs. Hey, look like
Speaker 1: it is a at wheeler. Hey, if y'all see an
Speaker 1: a teen wheeler side the roll where the ain't got
Speaker 1: no springs on it, Diddy go right there.
Speaker 3: Hey, I just I just I want to thank God
Speaker 3: giving me the opportunity.
Speaker 2: After what about your gun? Huh? What about your gus? Hey?
Speaker 3: We looked good at the first quarter. I thought it
Speaker 3: was gonna be a good game. Honestly, we moved. I
Speaker 3: know it's a four quarter a game. I'm saying the
Speaker 3: fact that we moved the ball up and down the field.
Speaker 3: We got in the red zone maybe four maybe five times.
Speaker 3: We were only able to get three points out of that.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I just I just don't know. We
Speaker 3: didn't have enough playmakers. We had both Washington's, we had
Speaker 3: Taj and Malik. No turn them all over and give
Speaker 3: the ball back.
Speaker 1: To the rate.
Speaker 2: The way y'all was movie, you look like y'all had
Speaker 2: George out there too, Washington.
Speaker 4: That is, it was bad.
Speaker 3: And obviously when you're playing a team, when you're playing
Speaker 3: a team like the Baltimore Ravens unk, you got to
Speaker 3: be as perfect as possible. You got to minimize the
Speaker 3: turnovers because all you're doing is hurting yourself.
Speaker 4: And I heard a great quote while I was watching.
Speaker 3: The game with Michae McDaniel said, you know, you don't
Speaker 3: want to have to play the Ravens and have to
Speaker 3: play against yourself.
Speaker 4: You know, we have to play against yourself as well, making.
Speaker 3: Mistakes and listen, the Ravens hop on everything and they
Speaker 3: capitalize on it, and you know it, you know, the
Speaker 3: the end, get the in the end score to the
Speaker 3: game the result of you know, just shoot yourself in
Speaker 3: the foot by the Dolphins.
Speaker 4: Damn man, Damn.
Speaker 2: Man, It's gonna take me all that keep talking.
Speaker 3: At anyway, chat. I mean, like, I'm sure we have
Speaker 3: a lot of Raven fans in the chat. You know,
Speaker 3: I meant I meant no no ill, no ill will,
Speaker 3: no harm.
Speaker 2: He meant I will.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just going for my team. I'm going
Speaker 3: for my home team. And you know I I hope
Speaker 3: you all accept my apology.
Speaker 4: I love you, got I love you.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: You know how I feel about you know, and and
Speaker 3: that that's pretty much it.
Speaker 4: And on the next week, on the next week, that's
Speaker 4: how I'm feeling. I gotta, I gotta apologize that. I
Speaker 4: gotta a.
Speaker 1: Bengals and Guppies flo, Ravens flop, Guppies and Bengals flop.
Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta apologize the butter too. But I
Speaker 3: know you're gonna see this, butter. You know I was
Speaker 3: all on your Twitter. I was trolling you like y'allways,
Speaker 3: like y'alls gonna y'allys gonna lose. So I want to
Speaker 3: apologize to you, dan Olsty, I got your lit one
Speaker 3: hundred dollars. I'm gonna see you that and uh.
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa what time out? How you gonna see you?
Speaker 2: See how you do it?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 2: Hey, chap?
Speaker 1: I don't know them to say anything, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't like to make things no racial issue.
Speaker 2: But you say how the white man get him money? First?
Speaker 2: You say, got a white man get it?
Speaker 1: But I just said, chat chat. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The man it all be two years. Bet the white
Speaker 1: man tonight, blaite man gave him money tomorrow. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: chat chatt. If I wrong, chack, if I wrong, chack,
Speaker 1: y'all tell me I'm wrong, cause y'all, y'all, y'all shoot
Speaker 1: me straight. I mean, I would shoot it be a
Speaker 1: little I was, shoot it be a little hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to get my little shoot you shoot
Speaker 1: me my little fifty nine hundred for the longest.
Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, can I tell you something real quick. I
Speaker 3: don't mean to be ruder. I don't mean to disrespectful. Well,
Speaker 3: you you understand the economy that we're in right now?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: I mean too, Can you imagine what I could do
Speaker 2: with fifty.
Speaker 4: Nine hundred and this God for sake, you understand it.
Speaker 1: They already cut my snap benefits, that cut my wig
Speaker 1: Benifitt Medicaid.
Speaker 2: They about to do that, but premium going up.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, listen, all the all the boosters.
Speaker 3: I know you know I should be able to get
Speaker 3: a deal, and I would, I would be able to
Speaker 3: see you that fifty nine hundred. Everybody hurting out here
Speaker 3: right now, including I know it ain't.
Speaker 4: It ain't the same.
Speaker 2: It ain't. I ain't found a good deal in a
Speaker 2: long time.
Speaker 3: And who you telling my homeboy, My homeboy, who I
Speaker 3: told you can get the dogs for you? You know
Speaker 3: the dogs you spend like ten Yeah, my homeboy Jojo,
Speaker 3: he ain't got nothing, but he's short.
Speaker 2: You gotta tell me nothing was rough out here, right?
Speaker 1: I mean I used to get I used to get, Hey,
Speaker 1: before I go into bottle shop, man, that creed call
Speaker 1: man not getting like three of them for like two
Speaker 1: hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: That's a good deal, bro, you know, I know it's
Speaker 2: a great yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh that that tim for that time for a bottle
Speaker 1: clone that caught my sears man shop You good with me,
Speaker 1: you always ay Sometimes I would just buy stuff it
Speaker 1: didn't even want it. Hey, man, Hey, I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: your sol I'm gonna give you this right here, Hey,
Speaker 1: time hard, I.
Speaker 2: Can show you that fifty.
Speaker 3: Nine Listen, if I seen you fifty nine hundred, ain't
Speaker 3: gonna set me back a little bit.
Speaker 1: What if it set you back, that means I get
Speaker 1: to move forward. That's what's happening. Sometimes. Oh yo, sometimes
Speaker 1: you gotta plan a treat and realize the shade you
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to enjoy it from that track.
Speaker 3: But you got to understand that. You know, I got kids.
Speaker 3: They got to take care of that. You heard me
Speaker 3: me too, Your kids grown?
Speaker 4: You know mine little?
Speaker 2: You know, hey, they still eat, they still they still
Speaker 2: need daddy. Love carrying money.
Speaker 3: I love think about love French Fried and Kennedy they French.
Speaker 1: Hey, French proble mama rolling making big bucks. No whamis listen, man, listen,
Speaker 1: and you need to stop kind of her purse too.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about what French proble mama got going on?
Speaker 2: Good over it.
Speaker 4: You're saying she got I got to feed my kids,
Speaker 4: my kid, my kids. My kid's gonna be with me tomorrow.
Speaker 4: They here with me.
Speaker 3: It's Halloween, so we're going on trigger treating. So that
Speaker 3: loved fifty nine hundred, that's I gotta stretch that.
Speaker 1: Hey, well, I don't want you to treat me for
Speaker 1: two years, not treat me with my fifty nine hundred.
Speaker 4: Send me my trophies.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you got them? You not broke in my
Speaker 2: house and stole them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I only got two because they was heavy.
Speaker 1: Hey, you said the situation happened, you know, that's what
Speaker 1: you know? They you know, when they leave, they take
Speaker 1: your stuff. It's okay, I tell you what, Center Center
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred. She'll send it back to you.
Speaker 3: Nothing ain't ain't nothing, ain't well listen here, ain't nothing
Speaker 3: going that way, any any any anything, any transactions, any
Speaker 3: transaction is going to my kids.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, put it in care of the kids. She
Speaker 2: don't care. What is fun? Lord? Does she get it? Hey?
Speaker 1: You know you will see you, Oh Joe, you walk
Speaker 1: out there with your helm under your arm. Oh see, Hey, Chad,
Speaker 1: y'all remember Hey guys, I know y'all play high school ball.
Speaker 2: Y'all remember y'all walk out there. You had to heal
Speaker 2: it on your.
Speaker 1: All and a six foot two, one hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: five pounds senior Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 4: Hey man, yeah, leave man.
Speaker 3: Just think about Hey, now that you know, back to
Speaker 3: the game though, just think about that. What like like.
Speaker 4: I don't understand the NFL, man, how you can come?
Speaker 2: What don't you understand, maybe I can help you.
Speaker 3: You have the Dolphins come off such a great, a
Speaker 3: great dominated performance, you know, thirty to nine against the
Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 4: The Atlanta or A eight team, they're a good team.
Speaker 3: And for twour to look that way, the defense to
Speaker 3: play well offense and they were able to move the ball,
Speaker 3: they were to put up points, something that they struggle
Speaker 3: to do. And then to come out tonight and lay
Speaker 3: egg you know, the first quarter, I'm like, oh, yes,
Speaker 3: oh this is finny be a game and I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, what the hell?
Speaker 2: Oh see, let me ask your question.
Speaker 1: If you hadn't seen that, let's just say, okay, fact
Speaker 1: that we're not going to look at anything in the
Speaker 1: back because if you look at it in a vacuum,
Speaker 1: you just look at Atlanta.
Speaker 2: You said, okay, but what about prior to Atlanta?
Speaker 1: So if we had taken Atlanta out of the equation
Speaker 1: and we looked at everything that they had done up.
Speaker 2: Until Atlanta, skip over Atlanta, what would you have said.
Speaker 4: They were def losing that. I'm just gonna be honest
Speaker 4: with you, and I was.
Speaker 3: I was bet with my heart, but I bet with
Speaker 3: my heart with confidence based on that performance, last week.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Oh, ain't no way in hell as bad
Speaker 3: as as bad as the Raven defense has been this year,
Speaker 3: ain't no hell listen to the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: I'm but the Dolphins got the Chiefs offense or the
Speaker 1: Lions offense, or or or or or.
Speaker 2: Philly or Buffalo, somebody they're not known for. No, I mean,
Speaker 2: I know what you mean.
Speaker 4: Nigga moved the ball though they did tonight. They were
Speaker 4: able to move the ball.
Speaker 3: They were able to move the ball and be efficient
Speaker 3: run the ball when they need to. Devon a Chan
Speaker 3: catching out the backfield, he's.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, I just I
Speaker 2: don't know, man, truth be told.
Speaker 1: He the best player I know two of the quarter
Speaker 1: back he Chann is their best player.
Speaker 4: You think, so.
Speaker 1: It's just it just I mean, yeah, he's small, I
Speaker 1: get what I get. He's small, low choe, but he
Speaker 1: can catch it, he can run it. He can run
Speaker 1: between the tackles. He got crazy speed that if he
Speaker 1: hit a scene, he can hit his head on the
Speaker 1: gold post. He's a solid receiver out of the backfield.
Speaker 1: Uh uh he he he has more speed than Camara
Speaker 1: and Christian McCaffrey. But he's every bitter elusive, and you
Speaker 1: can blind him up out wide, you can put him
Speaker 1: in the slot and he gets his hand on the ball. Boy, Hey,
Speaker 1: he a threat to go the whole way. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: just that, you know, I just don't know how far
Speaker 1: you can go it to it. I just don't they
Speaker 1: make dumb mistakes. They got it, They got it fourth
Speaker 1: and one and they about to go for it and
Speaker 1: the right tackle gets a procedure.
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, what what are you doing now?
Speaker 1: You got to kick a field goal? Everybody, everybody was yelling.
Speaker 1: Coat Mike McDaniel was yelling at him coming out the
Speaker 1: field rightfully. So, I just don't get it, bro.
Speaker 2: You home, You are home. It's not like you're on
Speaker 2: the road. You're home. You know the snap count. It's
Speaker 2: just it's it's stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Uh, they've got to do they they gonna they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to tear this thing down and build it back
Speaker 1: up on Yo.
Speaker 2: Whoa, they got some they got some pieces. I'm not
Speaker 2: so sure Phillips.
Speaker 1: Everybody could use the Phillips Brandley Chubb people, don't you know,
Speaker 1: try to take peace. You might as well just sell
Speaker 1: off and then try to get stuff and then going
Speaker 1: to the draft, and and and and build this thing back.
Speaker 3: The other thing, now that you mentioned the fact that
Speaker 3: them tearing it down and building it back up, You've
Speaker 3: been right about every coach that was probably gonna lose
Speaker 3: their job. You've been right coach that might have been
Speaker 3: on the hot seat and I'm gonna get fired. You've
Speaker 3: been right about every player. And you said we're gonna
Speaker 3: get paid. They got paid.
Speaker 2: Oh hutches, So we're gonna talk about hunch in a minute.
Speaker 3: Are you saying, Mike McDaniels, he will he make it
Speaker 3: throughout the entire season or if they continue to lose,
Speaker 3: will he where they where they let him go?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. I know John Emery is the
Speaker 1: tight ends coach. He's been a head coach in this league.
Speaker 1: He comes from that Shanahan that Shanahan Tree, so I'm
Speaker 1: not surprised that he's on the staff with Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 1: He's been a head coach, and I think he was
Speaker 1: at Colorado, which is his alma MATERA Weaver is a
Speaker 1: defensive coordin that I don't think he's ever held a
Speaker 1: head coaching position. I think it's fifty to fifty that
Speaker 1: he leaves before the season, ain't no question in my mind.
Speaker 2: He's going after the season, no question whatsoever.
Speaker 1: And I think the thing is old choice that you
Speaker 1: start selling you know, hey, you just start selling pieces
Speaker 1: off because it's not going to work in it's in
Speaker 1: his current condition, and it's in its current condition. The
Speaker 1: Dolphins are not equipped. They don't have enough. The quarterback
Speaker 1: is not He can't elevate. You have to elevate him.
Speaker 1: And when a chan is running wild, when Tyreek was healthy,
Speaker 1: going crazy, when water was growing crazy, toa look really
Speaker 1: really good.
Speaker 2: But he doesn't.
Speaker 1: Possess the skills set to elevate other people like said, Okay,
Speaker 1: he made he was better. He was good, but he
Speaker 1: made him better. That's not what he did. That's not
Speaker 1: what happened.
Speaker 4: Think what you just said. You said two.
Speaker 3: It's not the kind of quarterback that can elevate his
Speaker 3: play when he doesn't have the type of talent around
Speaker 3: him that can elevate his How many quarterbacks in the
Speaker 3: NFL are like that?
Speaker 4: Is maybe four or five.
Speaker 2: That the ones that make fifty million should be able
Speaker 2: to do that. Hold on, O.
Speaker 1: Joe mac McDaniel is firmly up in the air, per
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport on the hot seat, as they say, I
Speaker 1: do not sense anything imminent from owner Stephen Ross, who
Speaker 1: likes him, believes in him, and has invested in him.
Speaker 2: But here's how McDaniel is going to be judged. How
Speaker 2: do the players respond. What is it like in the
Speaker 2: locker room? Do they keep playing for him or do
Speaker 2: they not? And can't you see it? There's going to
Speaker 2: be determined that's going to determine whether he keeps his job.
Speaker 2: I just don't see it, even if they play hard.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I don't see how I coach. You missed
Speaker 2: the playoffs last year.
Speaker 1: You go and they got two games of their nine games,
Speaker 1: so they got eight games left. Let's just say, for
Speaker 1: the sake of argument, they go four and they go
Speaker 1: four and four in those games. Oh Joe, that's six wins.
Speaker 1: That's six and eleven. After the season that you had
Speaker 1: last year.
Speaker 4: What do you factor in the injuries, the you know,
Speaker 4: the loss of Tyreek. Do you factor in that?
Speaker 2: No? Or yeah?
Speaker 1: There are a lot of teams that got injuries. Injury
Speaker 1: injuries are part of it. The good teams overcome those injuries. Hey,
Speaker 1: you remember Russian rice went. Now last year, my homes ain't.
Speaker 2: Make no excuse. Tyreek Leeds, he ain't make no excuse
Speaker 2: what you call him? Go out? Aj Brown is out.
Speaker 1: Jaylen Hurst doesn't make an excuse, excuse Dak was playing
Speaker 1: without CD he didn't make an excuse.
Speaker 2: And look, I get it, like you are a part
Speaker 2: of this and you facted those in.
Speaker 1: So that's why you try to do the best job
Speaker 1: you can of fielding a fifty three man team.
Speaker 2: You just don't look at it.
Speaker 1: Okay, well he's gonna start, but you also have to
Speaker 1: look at what happens if he goes down. Will we
Speaker 1: be able to keep this thing afloat two weeks, three weeks,
Speaker 1: four weeks? That's anything the key. I'm talking about your
Speaker 1: wide receiver, running back, quarterbacks, something like that. Hey, Greer Hell,
Speaker 1: I think Grib's on the hot seat too. You got
Speaker 1: rid of Brian Floores? You hi, Josh McDaniels, Josh McDaniel's
Speaker 1: excuse me, Mike McDaniel, Mike McDaniel, excuse me, Chad?
Speaker 2: I mean, oh, Joe, I don't know.
Speaker 1: If you notice they're not close to Buffalo, they're not
Speaker 1: close to New England.
Speaker 2: Think about it.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen got another decade, Drake may got a decade plus?
Speaker 2: Or how close are you to them? You fight? You
Speaker 2: fighting with the Jets to try to.
Speaker 1: Stay out of the last place, to try to stay
Speaker 1: out of the cell because you're not close to Buffalo,
Speaker 1: and you're not close.
Speaker 3: When you ask how close we are at the Buffalo,
Speaker 3: how close you are to the wing? Most people that
Speaker 3: understand the game of football, they say that you're we're
Speaker 3: a quarterback away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, quarter back away.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Oh Joe, you got a quarterback
Speaker 1: that you gave two hundred and fifty million dollars to,
Speaker 1: I mean, no.
Speaker 3: Choice because they were all there were no other options.
Speaker 1: I agree, But what's the likelihood of Now you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to go in the draft, but you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to find one develop him because you're not gonna get
Speaker 1: one in free actionency. Ain't nobody to let no. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who Anthony Richardson. No, you're not
Speaker 1: going that route. So I'm trying to think who you
Speaker 1: could get in free agency? What quarterback is going to
Speaker 1: be available in regency? You want first first cousins?
Speaker 4: Whoa Now wait, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa? Hold on, man,
Speaker 4: well are you are? You just put a smile on
Speaker 4: her face? A little bit?
Speaker 1: Man? He can't move out, Joe, he was already a statue.
Speaker 1: So what do you he can move less?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: Listen, I know one thing, I know what he can do.
Speaker 3: I know we can deliver that ball like Amazon. I
Speaker 3: know we can give it that ball like FedEx and
Speaker 3: ups now.
Speaker 1: But anytime, but anytime it's inclement weather, what happens? The
Speaker 1: package ain't dere when he said it wouldn't.
Speaker 3: That's been Is that what you just said? Just there
Speaker 3: has been hung the dolphins since since the eighties.
Speaker 1: And one more thing you got to realize, cousins for
Speaker 1: the last decade plus has been indoor weather.
Speaker 2: What do they play at in Buffalo? Is that? What
Speaker 2: about New England?
Speaker 4: It gets little chilli?
Speaker 2: What about what about New York? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Chila that So are you sure you want to be
Speaker 1: a guy that's getting on up in age that didn't
Speaker 1: have the ability to move before can move even less?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Is that what you wanted to help? You're probably you're
Speaker 1: probably better off.
Speaker 2: Oho.
Speaker 1: If I almost scrap it, I'm going I'm going bare
Speaker 1: bones and build it back.
Speaker 3: Listen, going bare bones and building it back up based
Speaker 3: on what I've seen so far, that's out there.
Speaker 4: The options, the ansay not there.
Speaker 3: We watched college football, they answer, yeah, if they can't
Speaker 3: elevate their teams and stand out and pop out on
Speaker 3: pop out on film and pop out on tape right now,
Speaker 3: they're not gonna do it there because they don't have
Speaker 3: the weapons, or the or the right situation offensively for
Speaker 3: it to happen. We can just you can plug somebody
Speaker 3: in there and they can just go. You got you
Speaker 3: got to be him to go playing that offense and
Speaker 3: make a difference.
Speaker 2: Yes, but look, you have an opportunity.
Speaker 1: The first two years you had a healthy rig and
Speaker 1: for the most part, wadle you.
Speaker 2: Had eight chain. You stumbled on a chain and you
Speaker 2: didn't get it done. You lay that.
Speaker 1: You started faltering down the stretch, and that's what happened.
Speaker 1: So you started faltering down the stretch. And then you
Speaker 1: mess around and you have to go to Kansas City,
Speaker 1: knowing what they represent, knowing what that place is like,
Speaker 1: to play in the playoffs, and it's.
Speaker 2: Ten blue zero.
Speaker 4: It was cold.
Speaker 1: It was cold, I mean so cold. The greyhound got
Speaker 1: inside the bus. He was on the bus. Oh your
Speaker 1: drive the cold.
Speaker 2: I'm getting one of these seats.
Speaker 1: But man, they got too old. And I know it's hot,
Speaker 1: and I know Dolphins fans like that. They got the
Speaker 1: longest tenure without winning a playoff game twenty four seasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty four seasons. Twenty four.
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: I just don't see it. I just don't see it,
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: The Eagles are reportedly interested in a potential blockbuster trade
Speaker 1: involving star pass rusher Miles Garrett. According to y'all Who's
Speaker 1: Sports Charles Robinson, I've heard it from a couple of
Speaker 1: other super high ranking people and other teams that are
Speaker 1: clearly on the phones that Howie Roseman and the Eagles
Speaker 1: are super hot at the Miles Garrett, that y Roseman
Speaker 1: will give up like three first round picks.
Speaker 2: And a player you know, you know what.
Speaker 1: I think they'd probably be willing to give up three
Speaker 1: first round picks and probably Jordan Davis or one of
Speaker 1: those superstar you know, one of those young players.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 1: They'd be willing to give up Carter, but I think
Speaker 1: they'd be willing to give up Davis. But it's gonna
Speaker 1: take three first rounds.
Speaker 4: And it's damn well is damn well worth it?
Speaker 3: One thing about Howie Rosevenant if you watch the way
Speaker 3: he maneuver him, the way he conducts business when it
Speaker 3: comes to getting players and building a team, building.
Speaker 4: A roster, you know, And obviously right now the main.
Speaker 3: Thing is the main thing with the Eagles, despite what
Speaker 3: everybody's talking about, they trying to go back and repeat on,
Speaker 3: They trying to go back and repeat and goddamn Howie
Speaker 3: rosemanth is pushing all his chips in on the table.
Speaker 3: I know what I need, I know what piece can
Speaker 3: help us, and that's going to get Yeah, goddamn, what happened?
Speaker 3: What happened if with that trade through her three first
Speaker 3: round picks and the player, what if they want a J.
Speaker 4: Brown in exchange?
Speaker 2: Hey they won't, You can have him?
Speaker 4: What what?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Because the way I look at it, O Jo, If
Speaker 1: I get him and I'm and I'm the Philadelphia Eagles
Speaker 1: that I believe I could be, where are we gonna
Speaker 1: be picking the bottom half? You're gonna get somewhere between
Speaker 1: twenty eight and thirty two. We're not gonna be in
Speaker 1: the top ten. So it's not gonna hunters. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna hurt us. See, now you mess around and you're
Speaker 1: picking in the top ten. All uh Chicago, who's that?
Speaker 2: No? Clear?
Speaker 1: Uh Carolina, remember Carolina one of the first pick and
Speaker 1: the next year boom that that that pick that you
Speaker 1: gave up is Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I honestly me, just thinking about it, the
Speaker 3: only thing that makes sense. Okay, you're giving us three
Speaker 3: first round picks, and we need something of equal value
Speaker 3: if we're letting, if we're letting up.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't give up both though ojo. I would
Speaker 1: give up three first round picks. You don't you don't
Speaker 1: get a J and Cardinal with AJ and right you
Speaker 1: can get you can get a J.
Speaker 2: You know what, I might be willing to give up
Speaker 2: Carter and keep Jordan Davis.
Speaker 4: No, No, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: I would no, mm hmm.
Speaker 4: I'm going the opposite way.
Speaker 3: And obviously it might not be an anybody defensively with
Speaker 3: with all the smoke, with all the talking, you know,
Speaker 3: they might let sticks go because I.
Speaker 4: Think that's the value.
Speaker 2: Who Davante, I.
Speaker 4: Say, sis, I mean that be eleven?
Speaker 1: Oh oh uh oh yeah hey yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: can see that. I think, But I think Ojo Carter
Speaker 1: hadn't been the same player, and the injuries he then
Speaker 1: wasn't in shape like he was supposed to see. Teams
Speaker 1: factored that in Oh Joe Your Kids twenty four. So
Speaker 1: if he's not in shape at twenty four, what makes
Speaker 1: me think he's gonna be in shape at twenty six,
Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty eight. Because and now, Ojo, I got
Speaker 1: to get a big car. I gotta put a big
Speaker 1: contract on the table. Now he's gonna want thirty thirty two,
Speaker 1: thirty three, thirty four million? Am I willing? Is that
Speaker 1: someone I can trust to invest that kind of money in?
Speaker 1: I already know what I'm gonna get Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2: I'm cool with that.
Speaker 1: I already know Miles Garrett's gonna play like he's broke,
Speaker 1: and he's one of the highest played defensive players in football,
Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not ever worried about him being
Speaker 1: in shape. Now I got to worry about him speeding
Speaker 1: a little bit. Hey, damn Miles slowed down. Damn bro
Speaker 1: But uh hey, I'm sure they've had they I think
Speaker 1: Andrew Barry has had a conversation with him. I think
Speaker 1: he's got like six speeding tickets, a couple of them
Speaker 1: excess of one hundred miles an hour. That's something that
Speaker 1: he needs to work on. But I don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about him when it comes to being in condition
Speaker 1: and being him playing hard. I don't have to light
Speaker 1: a fire up under Oh Joe if I pay you
Speaker 1: that kind of money, Oh ho, I don't need to
Speaker 1: give you no pep talk. I don't need to say,
Speaker 1: come on, son, we need it today written what I
Speaker 1: need you to say? Hey Son, I don't need you
Speaker 1: can't practice today cause I don't want you to hurt nobody.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's how it should be. Look I all
Speaker 1: we can go by is oh Joe. By body language?
Speaker 1: What's being said? Something is going on that AJ doesn't
Speaker 1: seem happy, He doesn't feel like he's getting the targets.
Speaker 1: That because he's Oh Joe. He's looking at a what
Speaker 1: up in Cincinnati? That man got forty two targets. I
Speaker 1: haven't got forty two targets all year. This man got
Speaker 1: forty two targets in two games.
Speaker 4: You know it's different.
Speaker 1: He's looking at Pooka, he's looking at Jedda, He's looking
Speaker 1: at all these guys that he said, I'm a number
Speaker 1: one and I see number one. They get their targets,
Speaker 1: they get seven, eight, ten targets a game. I get
Speaker 1: three or four, and I'm supposed to be okay with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're supposed to be okay with that when
Speaker 3: you're wining. And that's that's what everybody says. But you
Speaker 3: gotta be careful what you wish for because you gotta think.
Speaker 3: But you got to tell people think about the situation.
Speaker 4: Trade deadline is what the.
Speaker 1: Fourth November fourth, so Tuesday, Tuesday at four o'clock.
Speaker 3: You gotta be careful what you wish for because you're
Speaker 3: coming from a perfect situation.
Speaker 4: And what happens if you end up in Cleveland because
Speaker 4: there's inconsistent play at the quarterback position?
Speaker 2: Yeah, just you.
Speaker 4: I think if you put a J.
Speaker 3: Brown in that system, now, I think they will put
Speaker 3: you in position to be able to get for that
Speaker 3: you got damn catches game?
Speaker 1: Who can get it to it? You trusted? You trusted? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. It takes a vet. It takes a
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback to target somebody twenty three times. And the
Speaker 1: guy called, what did he catch? Like sixteen of them.
Speaker 1: He got targeted, what six nineteen times? He caught twelve
Speaker 1: of them. Everybody, every everybody doesn't know how to do that.
Speaker 1: But the thing that I love most about the Eagles,
Speaker 1: uh and I love this about the Lions also, is
Speaker 1: that not only are they developing players, they're not afraid
Speaker 1: to go get somebody they feel that can really help them.
Speaker 2: Get to that.
Speaker 1: You see, you look at and uh where it's uh oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it a little. I'll touch on
Speaker 1: it right now. You look at the choice they say, man,
Speaker 1: we need to look Matthew Stafford, he wants to go block. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll make a trade. K Rams, give us two first
Speaker 1: rounders and Jered Goff. Now they go up and they
Speaker 1: see they get Jamir Gibbs. Now they get j J. Moo,
Speaker 1: they get Amin Ross, Saint Brown, they get a Hutchinson.
Speaker 1: And guess what they've done, O Joe. We drafted them,
Speaker 1: we developed them, We paid them.
Speaker 2: Look at the money that they paid all these guys.
Speaker 1: You see four years to twelve four years, one point
Speaker 1: eighty four years, one twenty four years, one twelve four years,
Speaker 1: ninety three.
Speaker 2: You see, you see a real current thing.
Speaker 1: No guys know, now, if I come here and I
Speaker 1: work my butt off, I'm gonna get paid. Ain't no dealing,
Speaker 1: dalling around, ain't playing no mind games. And the buck
Speaker 1: stops with me on my desk, and don't nobody get
Speaker 1: this and that ain't about no egos, Brad.
Speaker 2: Kudos to Brad Holmes, the general manager.
Speaker 4: And also kudos to him for drafting too.
Speaker 2: For drafting well, Brad Holmes, that's entity.
Speaker 3: Draft players and hope they pan out, and they actually
Speaker 3: don't pan out, but it's like everyone they drafted today,
Speaker 3: it always just seems to pan out, which is why.
Speaker 4: They've been able to pay players and develop them and
Speaker 4: and they get the money that they get.
Speaker 1: Because Kirby Joe's man. Uh you know they I mean,
Speaker 1: they've done it. They've done a great job. You look
Speaker 1: at that D line, you look at those linebackers Campbell,
Speaker 1: and you look at uh, what's the big D linean
Speaker 1: that just came back. They've done a great job of
Speaker 1: identifying a player that fits their system. You know, Coach
Speaker 1: Cabelichick used to take a lot of criticism for guys
Speaker 1: like who is this guy? But Coach Belichick knew what
Speaker 1: he was looking for. He's looking for two guys defensive linemen.
Speaker 1: You not gonna get no sacks. Remember Chris Long left.
Speaker 1: He said, Yeah, it's fun to win, But I want
Speaker 1: to be a player. I just don't want to hold
Speaker 1: up so the linebackers can make plays. My job is
Speaker 1: a defensive as an edge rusher. Excuse me, Chad, I
Speaker 1: want to hunt the quarterback. I don't want to just
Speaker 1: sit on the porch and bart let me hunt. And
Speaker 1: so you identify the player that's gonna fit the system,
Speaker 1: a player that personality wise will fit your system because
Speaker 1: it don't do any good if the guy fits the
Speaker 1: system but he's a jackass. You have to identify that.
Speaker 1: You identify that, you do your homework. Now you're gonna
Speaker 1: miss some because sometimes guys can fool you.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, but I just.
Speaker 2: Love what they do.
Speaker 1: Through the first eight weeks of the season, the coach
Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones have been the biggest surprise. When Andy
Speaker 1: signed Jones this offseason, he was widely viewed as another
Speaker 1: option behind twenty twenty three number four pick Anthony Richardson,
Speaker 1: but Jonathan Taylor realized the job with Jones after the
Speaker 1: first practice when he first got in the training camp,
Speaker 1: and he called check that has been the playbook. But
Speaker 1: if you've been here one of those checks, that's like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we called that. Sometimes. The fact that he
Speaker 1: called it is like, did this guy have the playbook
Speaker 1: six months ago? That's what I understood. Oh okay, his
Speaker 1: level of preparation is different for him to come in
Speaker 1: day one, day two and make that call, make that check.
Speaker 1: He's been studying. It's day one of install and he's
Speaker 1: already that far ahead. I'm like, this guy is legit. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm gonna ask you. I know
Speaker 1: how I took that. I know how I took that.
Speaker 1: He didn't say it. He heap from praised. But I
Speaker 1: think that was a shot at the go ahead, But
Speaker 1: you go ahead.
Speaker 3: I think players don't intend to take shots at other
Speaker 3: individuals that play the same position when praising another I
Speaker 3: think just praising the fact that Daniel.
Speaker 4: Jones was so well informed with the offense.
Speaker 3: To have already been there, to know it the way,
Speaker 3: to know what the ends and outs and the nuances
Speaker 3: of it after just getting there. It's like, well, god, Lee,
Speaker 3: but you also have to understand what Dames Jones is
Speaker 3: fighting for. It he's fighting for a job, an opportunity
Speaker 3: to start after leaving somewhere. It just didn't work, and
Speaker 3: maybe this could have been a good thing for Anthony
Speaker 3: richards in the seat. Okay, now I have a better
Speaker 3: understanding or what do I need to do the way
Speaker 3: to conduct myself not only as a pro, but as
Speaker 3: quarterback number one?
Speaker 4: Well, uh was quarterback number one of a team. This
Speaker 4: is the stuff I needed to do make sure I succeeded.
Speaker 3: Not just in the classroom, not just in practice, but
Speaker 3: the results of doing so and putting the work.
Speaker 4: In is gonna show up on Sundays where it mattered most.
Speaker 1: I don't think Jonathan Taylor was intentionally trying to take
Speaker 1: a swipe at Anthony Richardson. He was heaping praise, but
Speaker 1: in the process of heaping praise, people gonna look like
Speaker 1: with damn, Yeah, he just got there a month ago,
Speaker 1: and you got a quarterback that's been there for two
Speaker 1: years and he never did anything like this, and he
Speaker 1: had the playbook. So that's the thing though, your note,
Speaker 1: was he out there trying to say, well, hey, we've
Speaker 1: heard story Hughes first the league first, he was the
Speaker 1: last day in the first out. They mined it for
Speaker 1: a reason. But that's what I mean. The quarterback. The
Speaker 1: preparation has to be so intense and if you and
Speaker 1: a lot of times that's why they go ahead and
Speaker 1: get mad because they like, I can't be out there.
Speaker 2: I need to be home.
Speaker 1: I need to be in front of this projector and
Speaker 1: I need an iPad now, Ojo.
Speaker 2: And I need to be going through and I need
Speaker 2: my mind focused on. I need home. And so they're
Speaker 2: going over and over and over and over.
Speaker 1: I told you from day one, and once I saw
Speaker 1: what he was getting paid, I said, we're gonna be starting.
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna be started, o Jo. I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not even sure when I saw that too. Obviously.
Speaker 3: It's just having common sense and understanding the game, understanding
Speaker 3: the business at that dog.
Speaker 1: Yep, Dan, what I didn't understand. If you got a project, okay,
Speaker 1: somebody say you got a project car, or you got
Speaker 1: a project home. Oh Joe, you don't try to drive
Speaker 1: the car. You say you gotta fix something. You got
Speaker 1: a project, it's gonna take work. It's gonna take you
Speaker 1: six months, it's gonna take you a year to get
Speaker 1: it operational. You got a project take home you're like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I got this home. I brought this home, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna fix it up. You don't try to live in it.
Speaker 1: You said this guy was a project. He had immense talent,
Speaker 1: and he does and you started what changed, bait? Just
Speaker 1: just go back and look at his tape from high school,
Speaker 1: look at his tape from college, and you tell me
Speaker 1: this man should have been a starter from day one. No,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, No, you did him. You did him a
Speaker 1: huge disservice. Can he go somewhere else it's gonna take.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got something he needs to go get
Speaker 1: with someone to understand mechanics of throwing everything. You can't
Speaker 1: be throwing the football like you're trying to throw it
Speaker 1: through a hurricane because nothing has touched. Everything is one
Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour. Shallow cross is throwing it like
Speaker 1: he's throwing a far across or deep over. No, bro,
Speaker 1: And look, give Daniel on credit. He's he's come in
Speaker 1: and like you said, the situation didn't work out. And
Speaker 1: in New York he had to sit the bench, and
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, but he got an opportunity, and he says,
Speaker 1: if I get another opportunity.
Speaker 3: Take advantage of it because I'm not let I can
Speaker 3: get too many not to be started, no, not to
Speaker 3: be a starter, not to say, Okay, this is my team.
Speaker 4: I have nothing to worry about. You don't get too
Speaker 4: many of them chances, especially coming from New York. Shoot,
Speaker 4: if you can't it done in New York, you know,
Speaker 4: which is obviously what I would consider. I mean the
Speaker 4: big one of the biggest markets, maybe the biggest market. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, if you could deal with that meeting, you
Speaker 4: can deal with anything.
Speaker 2: Do it in It's just like you know, Trey Lance
Speaker 2: he was a project play.
Speaker 4: I forgot about it.
Speaker 2: I just I don't get it.
Speaker 4: Where where is Trey Lance at as a backup?
Speaker 2: Is he in Dallas?
Speaker 1: Still a Houston? Because I know he wasn't. Oh no,
Speaker 1: the Chargers. He's the Chargers, okay, because he played basically
Speaker 1: he played all the preseason the Chargers. Carl Banks, who's
Speaker 1: the radio analyst for the Giants, was extremely critical this
Speaker 1: week of Dexter.
Speaker 2: Lawrence on his podcast with Bob Popper Pop.
Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence, nobody respects you anymore, nobody, Banks said, before
Speaker 1: going on going in on to say Lawrence wasn't playing
Speaker 1: at the same level as previous seasons. Lawrence strongly disagreed
Speaker 1: with Bank's assessment, exciting at the rate in which he
Speaker 1: gets double team, those are strong words.
Speaker 2: That's how you feel effort. He's delusional.
Speaker 1: Lawrence is getting double team a league high seventy five
Speaker 1: percent of the past rate, seventy five percent of the
Speaker 1: rate on his past rush opportunities. Yeah, I know Banks
Speaker 1: played against Banks. Obviously he's older than me, but I
Speaker 1: played against Banks. I think he was still at the Giants.
Speaker 1: I know I played against him when he was at
Speaker 1: Cleveland because when Coach Belichick went in Cleveland, he took
Speaker 1: Banks with it. Banks was originally one of the Giants him.
Speaker 1: It was him, Pep, Harry Carson, l T. So that's
Speaker 1: why I know him for him, So I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know Banks.
Speaker 2: What do you? What do you? What do you think?
Speaker 2: Oh Joe?
Speaker 1: When when analysts come out played the game, he played
Speaker 1: the game at a high level. I think on year
Speaker 1: Banks was the first team All Pro. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, I think he beat the l T l
Speaker 1: T that year he was the first team All Pro?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: What what?
Speaker 1: What? What?
Speaker 2: What do you say when guys are critical?
Speaker 1: I mean you know, he just this, This is his
Speaker 1: opinion that he doesn't believe that that that Dexter is
Speaker 1: is playing at the level in which you've played in
Speaker 1: years past and playing got a level in which he
Speaker 1: got the big contract that the Giants given him, which
Speaker 1: he earned.
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, you got three defensive defensive tackles in
Speaker 3: the NFL that are considered the best right now.
Speaker 4: Chris Jones is one of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeffer Jeffers is.
Speaker 3: Another, and that third is in no particular order. In
Speaker 3: the third is Dexter Lawrence. Now, I'm not sure when
Speaker 3: mister Banks is watching when it comes to football, especially
Speaker 3: the New York Giants.
Speaker 4: I'm sure he probably watches all the Giants.
Speaker 2: Game being that he had yeah yeah, yeah, and he.
Speaker 4: Has a podcast that he's doing with Big Paper.
Speaker 3: But you can see and understand that they scheme ways
Speaker 3: to stop Dexter Lawrence.
Speaker 4: Every first down it's gonna be a double team. Second down,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a double team.
Speaker 3: So you understand how difficult it is for him to
Speaker 3: have the efficiency that Carl Banks is looking for, saying
Speaker 3: that nobody's scared of him anymore if they weren't scared
Speaker 3: of him anymore.
Speaker 4: They wouldn't be double team. They want to one.
Speaker 2: Let me ask your question, how many times you think
Speaker 2: AD got double?
Speaker 3: Were talking about two dogs, were talking about two totally
Speaker 3: different dogs.
Speaker 1: You and I both know when you become that guy,
Speaker 1: you can't give excuses. You can't say, hey, man, get
Speaker 1: up at your man.
Speaker 2: They double me.
Speaker 3: We pay you to be trenches, right, Yeah, you know
Speaker 3: what it's like dying and now I'm not.
Speaker 4: I know I play around a lot. I don't pay.
Speaker 4: I don't be dying there, but I know what I'm strong.
Speaker 3: Joke you could do, and I know what it's like
Speaker 3: and having the way now and having to take on
Speaker 3: two of that every time, no matter how strong you are,
Speaker 3: you mean, I gotta get I gotta deal with two
Speaker 3: of me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what we do?
Speaker 1: What we do, O Joe, is that we don't do
Speaker 1: it every time, but we do it enough that when
Speaker 1: we don't do it, you're anticipating it.
Speaker 2: So you're hesitating. That's all I need.
Speaker 1: He who hesitated beat, So that's all I need to
Speaker 1: do with Yo. I'm gonna double your ass enough that
Speaker 1: now when I don't double, you're.
Speaker 2: Anticipating with double. The come.
Speaker 1: Hey, what do they What do they do to receivers
Speaker 1: they used to get in the ball. What I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do is double you early on. I'm gonna get you frustrated.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna w the whole game. I just want
Speaker 1: to do it just the first quarter. Get you frustrated.
Speaker 1: Then I got you.
Speaker 2: Damn. So I look, I get it. You look.
Speaker 1: I think when you when you're losing. Okay, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Why aren't we winning? Because I think you look at
Speaker 1: they got Law, they got Thibodeau, they got Carter, they
Speaker 1: got Brian Burns.
Speaker 2: Ain't no reason you give up thirty three points in
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. I don't give it that.
Speaker 3: What you say, six squad? They got a nice squad
Speaker 3: of names. Uh, they got a nice squad of names.
Speaker 1: Man, Brian, Brian, Uh, what's the what's his name? Brian Burns?
Speaker 1: Been to the Pro Bowl? That's the lards?
Speaker 2: Was it all pro? They got?
Speaker 1: They got guys that can. Now the back end leaves
Speaker 1: a lot to be desired. Okay, because they don't get there,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a completion. He said, it's been double
Speaker 1: But it's hard for you. I mean, people like these
Speaker 1: people talking and the thing is Banks knows football.
Speaker 2: Banks studies the game. He's a student of the game.
Speaker 1: Anybody, no, no, no, no, it's it's not it's absolutely not.
Speaker 1: All I can tell tell Dex Hey, just keep plugging, bro,
Speaker 1: just keep plugging away.
Speaker 4: That's all you do.
Speaker 3: That's all you can do. But that god damn double team.
Speaker 3: That's just what the thing hell.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta realize they got six hundred pounds
Speaker 1: rooting your answer up out of there. You know, he's
Speaker 1: you know, he under his shade nose. Bro, you got
Speaker 1: the center and the guard. Oh, they don't get your
Speaker 1: ass up out of there.
Speaker 2: That's tough.
Speaker 3: And it's so funny speaking of that, and watching Aaron
Speaker 3: Donald and some of the clips with him, and he
Speaker 3: get off so fast and make it make yourself skinny.
Speaker 4: To where he's.
Speaker 3: Dealing with one man out of the double team, and
Speaker 3: that that that's that's crazy.
Speaker 4: And every blue moon you'll see him he'll.
Speaker 3: Grabbed one in the middle of the chest in one
Speaker 3: hand and had the other way in the middle of
Speaker 3: the chest with the other hand, and he and he
Speaker 3: looking he controlling everything.
Speaker 4: I'm like, how the hell is he doing all that?
Speaker 2: A lot of times you have to. You have to
Speaker 2: be able to feel the double team.
Speaker 1: You see how the guy how how if he trying
Speaker 1: to reach me, they're trying to scoop me, or they
Speaker 1: they're trying to call you know, they're trying to power,
Speaker 1: they're trying to combo block me. But that's instinct. That's
Speaker 1: years and years of playing that double team. And understand
Speaker 1: that because you know, like you said, hey, okay, you
Speaker 1: gotta make a pile. But he was so good at
Speaker 1: playing on the edge, so he's not. And the same
Speaker 1: thing I tell tight ends, bro, don't let that man
Speaker 1: square you up. You give him a side. You give
Speaker 1: him a side. Don't let him put don't let him
Speaker 1: put his hands in your breastplate. You're not going nowhere.
Speaker 4: And don't let him be strong. You definitely moved.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you better be able to war. And that's what
Speaker 1: that's what the good detacles. Look out, look at Aaron
Speaker 1: Donna rush. You see he doing. He's doing like a
Speaker 1: wide receiver, tight End, He's up there doing this. I
Speaker 1: trying to get skinny, trying to trying to run the rim.
Speaker 1: What we they used to have a circle and the
Speaker 1: guy's running around it. And see how low they could
Speaker 1: get and get around there.
Speaker 2: Remember that.
Speaker 1: It's frustrating when you lose, or tell you know that.
Speaker 1: And when you lose. Okay, who makes the most money
Speaker 1: because God make hi say fifty thousand dollars. Why are
Speaker 1: we talking about him? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And almost And the funny thing about it is a
Speaker 3: lot of people will see this is Hayden obviously when
Speaker 3: it comes to probably the best player on the defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is, is next to Lawrence.
Speaker 3: And to come out and say something like that, well,
Speaker 3: people know, people aren't scaredy anymore when obviously.
Speaker 4: We're statistically based.
Speaker 3: On the numbers that you just said that anyone that's
Speaker 3: being blocked and the other team seventy percent of.
Speaker 2: The time or more.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's your answer, there's your answer.
Speaker 1: Oh I still think he's I still think he's feared.
Speaker 1: I still think they understand