1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: It is Thursy October fifteenth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode 8 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: number forty five. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. 9 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: We're alive from the s WBC Morriage Studios at the Star. 10 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: We're talking Cowboys football at you guys for forty five minutes. 11 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: We'll be joined here momentarily by Bucky Brooks, as he 12 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: does on every Thursday. He's gonna talk to us about 13 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: the opposing team's defense, in this case the Arizona Cardinals 14 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys offense. But before we get to that, 15 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: I did want to catch up a little bit on 16 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: some news that came out this morning during coach McCarthy's 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: press conference talk about Laton Vanderish. Nick catch us up 18 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: on what he had to say about him. Well, he 19 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: says he's going to practice in full expects him to 20 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: practice in full today. That's big, you know, because I 21 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: mean you're gonna start doing that on Thursday of a 22 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: week like this, which is really a Wednesday in their 23 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: practice schedule, then you know he should be ready to go. 24 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: I would think I would assume be ready to go 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: for for Monday night's game against the Cardinals. So I'm 26 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: still a little bit skeptical of that because it sounds, 27 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: you know, if it was a broken clavicle, that just 28 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like that's that one that heals this quickly. 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: But maybe his does. They know more than me when 30 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: it comes to anything, but particularly you know, medical stuff. 31 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: You're selling yourself shortening night doctor. I'm I'm gonna take 32 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: you guys back Amber and Dave. I'm gonna take you 33 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: guys back to prior to the season. No, no, no, 34 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: prior to the season. And at the time, I'll speak 35 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: for myself, I thought this linebacking corps was gonna be 36 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: one of the strengths of this team. Then Layton goes out, 37 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: Sean never actually gets there to where he can play. 38 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: If Layton comes back this week, and I'll even say 39 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: if he comes back this week or next week, if 40 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: you take me back to what your thoughts were of 41 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: what you thought of this linebacker position before, and do 42 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: you think that's still what they can be at this point, 43 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: after what you've seen so far from Jalen and what 44 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: you expect from Layton coming back. Let's start first with you, Amber. 45 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: I remember talking about you just wanting to add some 46 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: depth at the position, regardless of having the talents of 47 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: or what you thought you had Sean Lee Layton and 48 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: then Jaalen. But I remember that the Cowboys had their 49 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: bigger priorities and necessities, so it kind of got overlooked. 50 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: And then you start adding linebackers. Then you see the 51 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: potential of an undrafted guy like Francis Bernard, and then 52 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: you start feeling good. You're like, Okay, we got some 53 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: guys here, and then that happens, and with late In 54 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: coming back, it's great. It's great to hear that he's 55 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: working his way through it. But at the same time, 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: even when he makes it to a game day, I'm 57 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: still super super hesitant because it makes me wonder how 58 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: long it's gonna take him for his mentally, not just 59 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: physically but mentally. How long is it gonna take him 60 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: mentally to kind of go back to feeling himself like 61 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: he used to be and not being hesitant of making 62 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: plays because I've seen it in guys. I've said this before. 63 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: I see it when guys have an injury and then 64 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: they get back on the field and you kind of 65 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: you can tell that they create a certain hesitation and 66 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: that's just naturally. It's just something that usually takes a 67 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: couple of weeks for you to break through that. But 68 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: I am still concerned about the linebacker position. Dave. Yeah, no, 69 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: a g. I think that was really well said, because 70 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: the harsh reality is that we're pretty long way removed 71 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: from when he played at an all pro level as 72 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: a rookie. I mean two years ago. He missed half 73 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: of the last season and he struggled at times at 74 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: A lot of that was because he was playing through injury, 75 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: but it is what it is. And now he's missed, 76 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: you know, four and a half of the five games 77 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: this season, and who can say how he would have 78 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: looked at he gotten more comfortable, But like it's worth 79 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: pointing out that he was out on the field in 80 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: that first quarter against the Rams when the Cowboys were 81 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: getting run all over and all out of sorts with 82 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: the way that the Rams were misdirecting them. So I'm 83 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: optimistic that he can come back and get his feet 84 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: underneath him. And definitely, I mean, they'll be better if 85 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: he's out there, But that could be a bit of 86 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: a transition because, like I said, it's it's been a 87 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: long time since he's been able to regularly get snaps 88 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: to the point where he was playing at the high 89 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 1: level that we got used to when he was Nick. 90 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: Expectations for the linebacker crew before the season began as 91 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: far and to where they are now. I thought they 92 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: were the best linebacking linebacker crew in the NFL. I 93 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: thought that they had the potential to be that, and 94 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: I think that right now. You know, like the first 95 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: four or five games, they've kind of been the flip 96 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: side of that, you would say. So it's a nice 97 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: way to say they're probably one of the worst in 98 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: the in the league. Um, but I don't. I just 99 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: I think that that Layton will help them if he 100 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: comes back and plays like the Layton that we've seen. Um, 101 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: but you know Sean Lee as well. I mean, you 102 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: hope that they come back and get some depth. I 103 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: think Joe Thomas is just a good, solid player. I 104 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: think that's kind of what he is. He's good, and 105 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: he hits hard and and he'll he'll do whatever you ask. 106 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: But I don't I don't think he's he's special, you know, 107 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: in any way. But that's okay, that's okay. I mean, 108 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 1: because as your fourth linebacker, that's exactly what you need. 109 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: But he's had to play a lot more. I just 110 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: think that, you know, like a lot of positions. They've 111 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: been banged up, um twice, just like an offensive tackle, cornerback, 112 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: you know, and not really tight end. But I'm just saying, 113 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, they've been hit multiple ways and it really 114 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: affects them. All Right. We've now have Bucky Brooks on 115 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: the line joining us live from he is with NFL Network. 116 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. We're ready to jump in and 117 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 1: talk a little bit of Arizona defense versus Cowboys offense. 118 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: And we'll start what we normally start. Talk to me 119 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: about the strengths and the weaknesses of this Arizona defense. Well, 120 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: obviously they've been impacted by the loss of Chandler Jones. 121 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: Losing Chandler Jones, who is a guy who, in my estimation, 122 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: should have been Defensive Player of the Year in terms 123 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: of the way that he dominates off the edge. He 124 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: there's no longer there. So now what you're going to 125 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: see is the strength of this team would be their 126 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: versatility and their multiplicity Undervans Joseph Vance. Joseph wants to 127 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: bring players from all over the field. He wants to 128 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: incorporate everybody into the RUSS package. So you have to 129 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: keep your eye on three guys. Patrick Peterson as the 130 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: number one corner cover corner. He's gonna take the best guy. 131 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, who's an do it all safety who can 132 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: come off the edge you're playing the slot. And then 133 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: Devandre Campbell, the second level linebacker that they got from Atlanta. 134 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: He is a explosive sideline sideline menace. He does a 135 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: great job of making plays happen. And because they dowalop 136 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: pressure in any and all situations, you have to keep 137 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: your eyes on those guys because at any point they 138 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: can be involved in a disruptive play. Bucky, this question 139 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: is specific to the Cowboys offense. I'm not trying to 140 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: blame all the turnovers on deck by any means, but 141 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: when you have a major change at a position like 142 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: the quarterback, with having Andy Dalton going in there. Are 143 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: you expecting this offense to be able to limit their turnovers? Yeah, 144 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: some of the turnovers limited because I would think the 145 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: offense now reprioritizes itself and it has to run through Zeke. 146 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that they're gonna run the ball fifty times 147 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: with Uzeke Elliott, but I think he has to be 148 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: first and foremost in the minds of Killing Moore when 149 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: it comes to how they want to go about their 150 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: game plan. Also, I would think that Mike McCarthy is 151 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: poor killing Moore to the side. Without Deck Prescott, it 152 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: now becomes more important than ever for the Cowboys to 153 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: play compliment every ball, and so that means Mike McCarthy 154 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: has to talk to Killing more about Hey, you got 155 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: to insert some more runs in because time or possession 156 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: is really critical because I don't know if our defense 157 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: can get enough stops for us to play in a 158 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: shootout with our backup quarterback, and so the turnovers have 159 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: to be a major concern. You have to make sure 160 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: that you're mindful love those. But I think some of 161 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: that will be curved by the way the play calling 162 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: could change with any doll in that quarterback Yeah, an 163 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: interesting to note. Their coach McCarthy said this morning in 164 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: his press conference that a number one on his list 165 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: of priorities of things they have to fix in areas 166 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: that they really should be blamed about is the turnover 167 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: ratio and trying to fix that and he believes that 168 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: they got some answers to be able to fix that. 169 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: Go at your question, Nick, here, I was looking at Arizona. 170 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: It sounds like they're Their defense starts off the game 171 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: great and nobody's you know, took the ball, drove down 172 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: and scored a touchdown to begin the game. The Cowboys, 173 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: of course, have struggled there as well. What do you 174 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: kind of assess that too? When you're looking at the 175 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: Cardinals defense when they come out, is it preparation during 176 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: the week coaching, you know, for them to come out 177 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: and stop teams? And the first driver too, you never know. 178 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: Because they've been so dynamic with their rush package. They 179 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: can bring pressure from a bunch of different angles, out 180 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: of a bunch of different personnel packages. It takes a 181 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: while off when offensive coordinated and a quarterback to adjust 182 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: to how they're bringing pressure. They do a great job 183 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: early in the game setting the tone with some very 184 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: pressures and they settle into their game plan. I think 185 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: what that does is because you're uncertain, you're a little 186 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: more cautious taking on that kind of approach. You're trying 187 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: to sort it out. And what you don't want to 188 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: do early is give them a turn over, give them 189 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: a splash play, give them something that changes the momentum. 190 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: So most teams have started out slow as they're trying 191 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: to figure them out, and that plays into their advantage 192 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: because not only defensively are they crazy aggressive, but offensively 193 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: they also put their foot to the gas and try 194 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: and really play from a hit from the beginning of 195 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: the game. So, I mean, Bucky, this is what you're 196 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: just talking about. But just for clarity's sake, I mean, 197 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: I agree with you that Chandler Jones is drastically underrated, 198 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: but he only had one sack for this defense before 199 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: he got hurt, and they have fourteen on the year. 200 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: So is there a guy that they are relying on 201 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: to help them generate that pressure or are they blitzing 202 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: that much that that many different guys are getting home. 203 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're trying to account for the way 204 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: that they rushed the passer, where do you think the 205 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys should start? Man, this is gonna be a challenge. 206 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a challenge for any doll in the 207 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: office ave line. Because they bring it from everywhere, and 208 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: because they're doing it by committee, particularly with Chandler Jones out, 209 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: it makes it hard. Last week we saw Dennis Gardeck 210 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: have two sacks against the Jet. He's an undrafted free 211 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: agent who had been in the rotation, but he wasn't 212 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: a prominent figure. They bring it from everywhere. And because 213 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: they bring it from everywhere, what they do is they 214 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: create one on one matchups along the line. A lot 215 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: of times when you bring five and six, you're trying 216 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: to isolate one of your players on a particular offensive 217 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: linement or the back, and that is what they do. 218 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: They bring pressure, so one of those guys has to 219 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: hold up in protection and more times than not they 220 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: crumble under the weight of the pressure. And so they're 221 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: gonna bring pressure. They're gonna doallad up in because the 222 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys have struggled with pressure in the past, particularly go 223 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: back to the Atlanta game. You saw how it took 224 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: them a while to settle in. I would expect them 225 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: to really come after them early to see if they 226 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: can create some negative plays and some turnovers, because that 227 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: has been the part of the game that has played Dallas. 228 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: Early in the game, they've been a couple of giveaways. 229 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: So you're gonn see advanced Joseph can dialload some things 230 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: to create those turnovers very very early. We're joined by 231 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks of NFL Network Bucky. Right now, the Arizona 232 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: defense is ranked fifth in points allowed, which obviously looks 233 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: really good for them. However, they've played some of the 234 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: worst offenses in the league. How much do you handicap 235 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: where they are as far as the points as they've 236 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: allowed based upon their opponents, or do you think this 237 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: defense really is a very stout defense that really is 238 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: hard to score on. I mean, they haven't played anybody 239 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: like the Cowboys, like the Cowboys offense, as he presents 240 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: a unique challenge. You have three legitimate wide receivers that 241 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: can take over the game at any point. You have 242 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: a stud running back that can get it done. And 243 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,119 Speaker 1: now you will have a veteran quarterback who when protected, 244 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: is as good as they come. And so we will 245 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: see how good the Cardinals are. But they believe in 246 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: really throwing a lot at you, and if you're not 247 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: on your p's and ques, it can be overwhelming. And 248 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: so this will be a game where Andy Dawton making 249 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: his first start for the Cowboys. He has to be 250 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: able to sort it out. He's able to figure out 251 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: where the person is coming from, and Kellen Moore has 252 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: to help them. I would think, and I know there's 253 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: been kind of a source spot for Cowboys fans, You're 254 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: going to see a lot of screens because you need 255 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: to run the schoens early to get a fit to 256 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: see if you can slow down this pass or slow 257 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: down this bricks, this blitz package and really help Annie 258 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: Dalton get comfortable. So I know people hate it, but 259 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: I think you'll see three or four screens really really 260 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: early in the game to see if they can slow 261 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: this down. Well, hey, you mentioned creating the balance in 262 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: the offense between the running game in the passing game, 263 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: and after seeing what they were able to do last 264 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: week where they were able to get somewhat a better 265 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: balance there, how likely when you're going against this defense 266 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: from MARISONA, how likely are the Cowboys to kind of 267 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: carry that over and be productive and make that balance work. Well, 268 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: I think the balance can work, and I think they 269 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: may flip the script. I think you may see any 270 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: Dalton throw more than anticipated in the first quarter because 271 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: everyone is going to think, hey, you don't have your 272 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: starting quarterback, they gonna give the ball to Zeke Elliott. 273 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: And so I would think that the Cowboys will counter 274 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: that by throwing it a little more early in the game, 275 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: seeing if they can back them up, get them out 276 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: of the box before they get a to Zeke. But 277 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: I think it's really important to look at the pitch 278 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: count with Andy Dalton. If Andy Dalton is thirty throws 279 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: or fewer, I think this is kind of the approach 280 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: that the Dallas Cowboys want to have. You don't want 281 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton to fall into the trap that Dak Prescott 282 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: was thrust in, and that is throwing the ball forty 283 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: forty five fifty times. That is not the way to 284 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: win with your backup quarterbacks starting. You know, I think 285 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: like every week, we just we hear about the other team, 286 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: and that's what that's what we do. That's what you do. 287 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: You know the scouting report, and it just looks like 288 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: you're about to play the AFC Pro Bowl team. And 289 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: the way we talk about you know, it's like, well, 290 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: they've got Hopkins and Kyler Murray and all the blitz 291 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: off the edge and all that, but like, why are 292 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: they getting beat Like are they they look average? They 293 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: seem like they're average, But are we making them out 294 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: to be like better than that? I mean what I 295 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: get that the Cowboys are below average, so this is 296 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: gonna be a tough matchup. But I'm just saying, what, 297 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: they can't be that great, right, I mean, how do 298 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: you beat the Cardinals? Well, I mean the Cardinal card 299 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: is pretty good. So early in the year they went 300 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: on the road and they knocked off the San Francisco 301 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: forty nine. Is part of that is familiarity from playing 302 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: within the division. The other part of it is their 303 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: quarterback is really good. Their quarterback is a unique playmaker. 304 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: I will put him in the category that he's Pat 305 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: Mahomes Light in terms of his playing style. He's able 306 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: to escape and make things happen. DeAndre Hopkins is playing 307 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: like the best wide receiver in football. Cliff Kingsbury has 308 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: made a concerted effort to put the ball in his hands, 309 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: and they're playing like a video game. My players better 310 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: than your player. I'm gonna give it to my player 311 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: more than your player, and we're going to win because 312 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: of that. The team that has success, the Detroit Lions 313 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: had the most success against him. They played his own, 314 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: they kept the ball in front, they dared, they dared 315 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: calla Murray to play dink and dunk ball, and he 316 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: wasn't able to consistently do it, and he had more turnovers. 317 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: But he has shown that he can carve you up 318 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: because the Jets tried to do some of that stuff 319 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: in zone or whatever, and he threw for three and 320 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: eighty yards. They're good because the quarterback is good. And 321 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: that's the story of the National Football League. When you 322 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: have a good quarterback, your team is typically good. That's 323 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: why they're so difficult to deal with. All Right, So 324 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: you're going to be surprised that I'm bringing up a 325 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: draft prospect, Bucky. But there might not have been a 326 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: more beloved player in this draft, at least defensively than 327 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. I think a lot of people were shocked 328 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: that he lasted as long as he did, which was 329 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: even I mean, he was taken eighth overall and that's 330 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: still surprised people. But he's not really playing he's getting 331 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: like twenty percent of the snaps, and I'm just curious 332 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: from what you've seen why that is, because it certainly 333 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: seemed in the spring like he was going to be 334 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: looked at as an instant impact kind of guy. So 335 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: here's the thing, Dave, when it comes to the evaluation process, 336 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: particularly for us on the outside, we love all the 337 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: bills and whistles and the more that you can do 338 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: when he plays safety in corner and slot and linebacker, 339 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: and he can do so many different things. The challenge 340 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: is when you get him on your team, what room 341 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: does he go to as a position player? Is he 342 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: a linebacker? Is he a safety? Can he settled into 343 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: one spot? Learn one spot before you put more on him? 344 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: What has happened with Zaa Sims. He's kind of a 345 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: jack of all trades, a master of none, and so 346 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: he hasn't really majored in anything. And so because he 347 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: hasn't majored in anything, the Cardinals are looking and trying 348 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: to figure out, I can't remove Buddha Baker because he's 349 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl player to put him at safety. I 350 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: can't remove the Devondre Campbell because deve Andre Campbell is 351 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: pretty good Jordan Hicks has been the steadying force in 352 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: the middle, and the complimentary safety has also been good. 353 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: So he's a man without a designated spot right now, 354 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: and so it can be tough when you have a 355 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: lot of talent, but the coaches and the front offices 356 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: aren't on the same page in terms of how we're 357 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: going to use them. In theory, the plan is great 358 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: to have a guy that's a Swiss Army Knight. It's 359 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: a lot harder to execute when you get to playing 360 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: games and you're trying to figure out how to maximize 361 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: all the personnel outside of Isaiah Simmons. We're talking to 362 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks of NFL Network. Bucky, they are also giving 363 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: up a significant number of rush yards they including one 364 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty eight yards that gave up on the 365 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: ground to Carolina and that was without Christian McCaffrey was 366 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: out injured right now. So what is the issue with 367 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: their run defense and is it something that the Cowboys 368 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 1: could possibly possibly exploit. Yeah, I mean the thing is 369 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: when you bliss and bliss the way that they play 370 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: like they are, I mean without being there, finesse will defense. 371 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: They want to play finesse because they want to run around, 372 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: run around blocks and get to the quarterback. So everyone 373 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: is focused on hunting the quarterback and they don't really 374 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: want to take on blocks to the point of attack. 375 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: I think the recipe for most things in this league 376 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: is teams that can run the ball and can hit 377 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: you in the face. It solves a lot of problems. 378 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: And when you look at the tape and you see 379 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers run for that amount of yards with 380 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: Mike Davis, You've seen other teams have success running the ball. 381 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: It's not that hard. You gotta run the ball. You 382 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: need to run the ball because you can control it. 383 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: And at this time, when you have analytics people telling 384 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: you did to throw it every down, football is still 385 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: a physical game. You gotta run the ball. You gotta 386 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: test will You got to see if they can handle 387 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: the pressure getting hit in the face. And I think 388 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys it is really important to run the 389 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: ball with Zeke, particularly with the offensive line being one 390 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: that is better going forward than retreating and pass protection 391 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: and real quick before we let you go, you mentioned 392 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: earlier Patrick Peterson was a guy to keep an eye on. 393 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: He's a guy that can match up and take away 394 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: your top receiver. If you're looking at the Dallas Cowboys, 395 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: which of those three guys becomes that top receiver that 396 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: you take away If you're Patrick Peterson or if you're 397 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, matching Patrick Peterson up with someone, well, 398 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: I think you still have to take away of Maury Cooper. 399 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: Like it's all funny games that CD Lamb has had 400 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: big moments, Michael Gallup has made some plays, but we 401 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: have seen when you leave Amory Cooper unchecked, Amory Cooper 402 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: will go for two hundred yards. They cannot have that. 403 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: So I think even though a Maray Cooper's numbers are 404 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: down and other guys are feasting, I think defensive coordinators 405 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: around the league understand that it starts with him in 406 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: the passing game. You have to take him away and 407 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: make them go to the other weapons and hope that 408 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: your other players can contain Cede Lamb, Michael Gallop. But 409 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: you cannot let Amari Cooper have his way because if 410 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: he gets going, then it really makes it difficult for 411 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: everybody else to slow down the other weapons that the 412 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: Cowboys have at the disposal. All right, Bucky Man, we 413 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us. We will have you back next week, 414 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: real quick, Tellsa's gonna win this game? What do you 415 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: would expect to see on Monday Night? You know, I 416 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: think the complimentary factor I think in saying this, and 417 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: I love Dak Prescott, I think this could help the 418 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys get back to the formula that they'll need to 419 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: win a ton of games. I think playing complimentary ball, 420 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: putting the pressure on Mike Nolan and John Fossil to 421 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: fix their problems is going to be critical. I think 422 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys win. I think they win at home because 423 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: they have it, They understand what's ahead of them, they 424 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: need to win. I think that must win gives them 425 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: the urgency to win by about seven. All right, thank you, 426 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: we will be back. We'll have you next week. Talk 427 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more about our next upcoming opponent. After 428 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: we get through that Monday night game, we're gonna take 429 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: our first break and we come back. We're gonna talk 430 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more about the Cowboys versus the Cardinals 431 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: that want to come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys 432 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: dot Com Radio. 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Support a great cause, it 466 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: look good doing it. Visit your local Dallas Cowboys Pro 467 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: shop or Shop Dallas Cowboys dot com. Welcome back to 468 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: the second segment of The Break, live from the SWBC 469 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: Mortgage studios. At the start, let's dive in a little 470 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: deeper on the Cowboys versus the Cardinals, particularly the Cowboys 471 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: offense versus the Cardinals defense. And I wanted to start 472 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: first talking about this wide receiver corps Cebee Lamb obviously 473 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: has been everything the Cowboys expected him to be, probably 474 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: a little more. Even this last game he was. He 475 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: had eight receptions on eleven targets, had one hundred and 476 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: twenty four yards, a second time this year he's gone 477 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: over one hundred yards. He was averaging fifteen point five 478 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: per reception, has long being twenty six yards. But all 479 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: that being said, he only played about fifty five percent 480 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: of the offensive snaps. That's thirty six out of sixty six. Now, 481 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: when you compare that to the other receivers Cooper at 482 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: sixty four he did forty two of the sixty six. 483 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: Gallup was the one that played the vast majority of 484 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: the game ninety seven percent of the offensive snap sixty 485 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: four of sixty six offensive snaps. My first question for 486 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: you guys is should Ceedee Lamb be playing more for 487 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: this team based upon the production that he's providing. Let's 488 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: start first with you, Nick, Well, I don't. I don't 489 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: know about that, I honestly, because what he's doing is amazing. 490 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: Because wide receivers are one of those positions that seemingly 491 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: takes the it's it's the toughest for them to jump 492 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: in and really have success early, it's just either there's 493 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: so much that you have to learn and all that. 494 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: So what he's done has been amazing. I think how 495 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: they're doing it is good. And I'll point this out 496 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: of all the plays he made in the game, he 497 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: probably the biggest play he made, in my opinion, wasn't 498 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: eight yard catch maybe or ten yard on first It 499 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: was Dalton's first pass. I mean, everybody's, you know, just 500 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: not sure what's even going on here. Dak's getting wheeled out. 501 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: Everyone's crying, and it's third down and he makes a 502 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: diving eight yard catch for a first down, and then 503 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: the next play the Cowboys score a touchdown. That was 504 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: a very very great catch and he had to change 505 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: his body, so he's doing everything. I think the Cowboys 506 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: were handling it just fine. Though. Honestly, Amber, I agree 507 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: with Nick. I like the way that they've been managing 508 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: the game, especially when you're talking about a group of 509 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: wide receivers that don't have a drastic They're not drastically 510 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: better or worse than the other. They're pretty balanced there, 511 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: so I'm not mad about it. I like the balance 512 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: that they're created, and I think that they're really making 513 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: it seem like a very smooth transition for a guy 514 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: like Cee Lamb, who you know, it's not always easy 515 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: for a rookie to come in this league. So I 516 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: like what they're doing right now with them. Dave, Yeah, 517 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: Lamb's not really my issue. I mean, for better or 518 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: for worse, the Cowboys are not that team that's to 519 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: run eleven personnel eighty percent of the time. They like 520 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: to use their tight ends, even with Blake Jarwin hurt. Honestly, 521 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: with the problems with the offensive tackles, I don't even 522 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: begrudge them that. Like, it's probably a good idea to 523 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: have those guys in helping. What I think is curious 524 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: as Amari Cooper's snap counts, I think, yeah, you said 525 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: it was sixty three this past weekend. Everybody noticed there 526 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: were there were full possessions where it was Gallop, Cedric Wilson, 527 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: and Noah Brown, and those two guys are playing great. 528 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favor of them 529 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: getting snaps, but it is a little weird because I 530 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: agree with Bucky. Amari Cooper, for my money, is the 531 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: most down after down important receiver. I mean, people scoff 532 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: at the possession receiver tag, But like, this is a 533 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: guy who can catch ten balls in a game and 534 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: just keep the chains moving. And we know he can 535 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: take over games downfield if the defense lets him too. 536 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: But for my money, nobody's more important to just catching eight, nine, ten, 537 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: eleven passes, many of which keep the chains moving, than 538 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. So Mike McCarthy makes it sound like it's 539 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: a load management thing, but at the same time, like 540 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: he's not really on the injury report. So that's that's 541 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: very curious to me, and I'm I'm gonna have a 542 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: close eye on his snap count because I think it's 543 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: weird that he would only get sixty three percent of 544 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: the snaps. Amber how much do you read into the 545 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: fact that he's only getting sixty four percent and Gallops 546 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: getting ninety seven percent. You know that that's something that 547 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: I did notice last game, and it's like he keeps 548 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: kind of somewhat decreasing a little bit. And because he's 549 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: not in the injury report, because I was gonna say, Okay, well, 550 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: we know his battle with the foot injury for the 551 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,479 Speaker 1: longest time, but that's not showing up on the injury report. 552 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: And then at the same time, I'm like, Okay, I 553 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: know he's not necessarily being a very consistent guy. But 554 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: at the same time, well, they've been playing home games 555 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: right now, and his issue has always been on the road, 556 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: so maybe that's not the issue either. So I don't 557 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: know if if maybe it's something that they're noticing more 558 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: during the week rather than on game and they just 559 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: practice wise. But other than that, there's nothing I can 560 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: necessarily pinpoint because they we don't get to see the 561 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: whole practice, So maybe I'm just gonna think that it's 562 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: based on how these guys are performing during the week. Nick. 563 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just looking at the overall snap count 564 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: of the of the season, and yeah, ninety three for 565 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 1: Gallup and eighty one for for Cooper. Um. You know, 566 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: what's surprising to me is the one hundred percent of 567 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: the snaps against Cleveland for Michael Gallup. That's obviously, um 568 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: the position that he's playing on the field, and I 569 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: think that Cedric Wilson and Noah Brown have come in 570 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: and especially playing some of the slot stuff has really 571 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, probably taken CD off the field it sometimes, 572 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: but you know, it doesn't seem like there's anybody that 573 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: that's a big you know, field stretcher, like like Gallup. 574 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, you want them to all 575 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: kind of compliment each other a little bit more, and 576 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: I think that that will happen. I don't think this 577 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: is a huge problem. I mean, this isn't really where 578 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: their problems are, you know, I mean, I know what 579 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: you're saying, but I just think that this is this 580 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: is okay, it's the other side of the ball that 581 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, And quite frankly, again, I wasn't I 582 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: was just pointing it out to ask the question. I 583 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: don't think it's actually a problem for the Cowboys because 584 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: they're getting the most production out of them. And I 585 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: have always been a proponent of the idea of using 586 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: the data that's available to you to do whatever you 587 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: need to do to protect your players. And if they're 588 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: if they're rationale that they're giving, which it sounds like 589 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: this is what it is, that they're trying to manage 590 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: his workloads so that he doesn't end up on the 591 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: injury report and he doesn't end up missing games, which 592 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: we know have been problems for him in the past, 593 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: then I'm all for it, especially again, if you're getting 594 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: the production you need. Both out of him and also 595 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: out of CD Lamb and then Michael Gallup as well. Yeah, 596 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: I mean Bucky said his numbers are down. Took the 597 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: words right out of my mouth. Good right, go ahead, No, 598 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: go ahead, Dave. No, Yeah, that's exactly what I wanted 599 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: to say. Sorry. Nick. Is like, I don't necessarily think 600 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: it's a problem. I just think it's interesting. And we 601 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: all know you don't have to be on the injury 602 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: report to be having some things that are bothering you. 603 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: So you know, if they think this is going to 604 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: help Amari Cooper play the best sixteen games possible, I'm 605 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: fine with that. I just think it's interesting. Yeah, I 606 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: mean the thing about it is is that if Cooper 607 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: does what he's done and just on pace, I mean 608 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: I think he'll set the Cowboys single season record for catches. 609 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean, so his numbers, you know, he's averaging ten 610 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: point nine, you would expect a little bit more. He 611 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: does have the longest catch of the season, but for 612 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, but I mean his on pace to get 613 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: one twenty five or something it catches, that's I think 614 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: that's the record. That would be a Cowboys record at least, 615 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: So you know, the fact that you got other guys 616 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: that are kind of stretching the field a little bit. 617 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: If that's a possession receiver, that's fine. I mean, Michael 618 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: Thomas is a possession receiver and I'll take him all 619 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: day long. So right, and if he's getting it, like 620 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: you said, if he's getting the production he's getting even 621 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: with less snaps, that means you're doing something right. You 622 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: want to get maximum maximal everyone possession receiver. Yeah, exactly, 623 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: all right, We're gonna take our final break. 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Okay, good, Yeah, that's 676 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: that's a good read right there, Nick Allan, you we 677 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: may have found a new job for you. Um, all right, 678 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: So let's jump back in. I wanted to talk about 679 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott this last game. He had nineteen runs for 680 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: ninety one yards, two touchdowns, four point eight average. Um. 681 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: They look like they're in parts of games. It reminded 682 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: me of of what we saw from Jason Garrett's offense 683 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: early when he became the head coach with the Cowboys. 684 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: They'd have these games where things were seemingly kind of 685 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: a little shaky, and they would just have a run drive. 686 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: Like literally, they would just run, run, run, run, and 687 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: they're getting three or four yards every run and just 688 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: picking up first downs and keep running and keep running it. 689 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: And that's what it felt like. And that's the kind 690 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: of commitment to the run I don't think we'd seen 691 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 1: around here in some time. That all being said, how 692 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: do you assess Zeke's play this last game? Do you 693 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: think he was getting as much as he could possibly 694 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: get out of those runs or do you think it 695 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: was you know, do you think that maybe there was 696 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: some room for improvement on Zeke's part with regards to 697 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: how they were running the ball on Sunday. Let's start 698 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: first to you, Dave. I mean, you know, we can 699 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: go back to the argument of you know, the explosiveness, 700 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: and I think you know, Zeke's only run of more 701 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: than fifteen yards this season was the one that he 702 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: fumbled against Cleveland. But I've just I've been so impressed 703 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: by his physicality and the way that you know, it 704 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,439 Speaker 1: tipped and this wasn't that wasn't always the case last year, 705 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: but this year it really seems like it takes two 706 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: or three tacklers to stop him, whereas last year there 707 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: were times where it almost felt like he was looking 708 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 1: for contacts so he could go down. Maybe that's a matter, 709 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: you know, a matter of not being properly conditioned. But 710 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: he seems like he's in great condition, because even if 711 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: the runs aren't long, they're punishing and they're hard to stop. 712 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: So I've been really impressed by his physicality and and 713 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: his finish I guess you could say, uh, and and 714 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: they're going to need that to to help to help 715 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 1: their offense without Dak. If I had to guess, maybe 716 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: my memory is completely serving me wrong. But I see 717 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: it completely opposite from what Dave just said. I feel 718 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: like I feel like previous years and again because the 719 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: Cowboys have had to rely more on the running game 720 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: and on Zeke based on you know, Dad wasn't playing 721 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: like like he was playing this year in previous years, 722 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: so the passing game looked completely different in that aspect um. 723 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: I feel like Zeke has always been that guy who's 724 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: able to push for those extra yards and just get 725 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 1: those extra dirty yards because he's so he's so strong, 726 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: he's so strong to push to push off defenders. But 727 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: this year he just doesn't seem like the zek that 728 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: we are used to seeing. In my perspective, he's still 729 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: doing okay, he's still doing fine as far as just 730 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: him personally and like physically, but at the same time, 731 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: the running game just hasn't been as productive as I 732 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 1: feel like we're used to seeing. Nick. I mean, what's 733 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 1: the phrase, like hold my beer? Is that what I mean? 734 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: You don't think he's as physical and I don't know, 735 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of agree with both of him, 736 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: but I know this against the Cardinals. This guy's gonna 737 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: run his ass off like he is gonna absolutely, he's 738 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: gonna do everything he can possibly do. He's gonna try 739 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: to run over, jump over people. You're gonna now, I 740 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: hope he hangs onto the ball because sometimes when you're 741 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: focused on some of that other stuff, but he is 742 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: gonna straight run over people. And if and if I 743 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: heard Bucky say this is kind of a finesse defense, 744 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna attack them. He's gonna play pissed off football 745 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: because his dude, his brother is not there. He's gonna 746 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: be on the sideline baby or whatever, but he's not 747 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,919 Speaker 1: there handing the ball off to him. And you watch 748 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,439 Speaker 1: the emotion that Zeke runs with this week, I think 749 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: he's gonna play probably one of his best games. That's why. 750 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean we saw it in a touchdown. Yeah, Scott 751 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: saw it. He was on holding the camera. I was like, 752 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: almost got taken out there. He was intense. Yeah, I 753 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: mean that was where I was gonna go next. Though, 754 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: when you think about this, this defense that they're gonna play, 755 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: and Bucky said it that that essentially their objective is 756 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: get to the quarterback, which means when you have defenses 757 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: like that that are ultra aggressive and blitzing and trying 758 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: to get the quarterback, they do create these holes, naturally 759 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: create these holes. How much do you think the Cowboys 760 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: are in a position to take advantage of that? Though? 761 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: Because they do have these guys now we've talked about 762 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: over and over again night still be honest, they have 763 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: a lot of unproven guys playing right now on their 764 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: offensive line. Are the Cowboys in a position to be 765 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: able to take advantage of that or even against the 766 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: team that may create those opportunities for him? Gonna start 767 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: first with you Amber. You know, it's very difficult for 768 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: me to make an assessment right now because based on 769 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: their game against the Giants, I they seem okay, they 770 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: made me feel like it was it was okay, it's 771 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: gonna be okay. They're gonna be able to handle it 772 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: and get better and just kind of make all those 773 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: pieces glued together and work as a whole team offensively. 774 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 1: But then again, I have to stop myself and remember, Okay, 775 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: these were the Giants. So it's hard for me to 776 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,720 Speaker 1: kind of put those two things aside and fully assess 777 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 1: that what that's gonna mean for the offensive line and 778 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: their abilities to create holes as far as like the 779 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: Running Game specifically, Zeke is a guy that can find 780 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 1: a hole anywhere, like he will look for he It's 781 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: crazy how skill he is in that way. But it's 782 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: just very hard standing here today on a Thursday for 783 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: me to fully tell you what my assessment is at 784 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: this point, Dave, I'll tell you this. I mean, yeah, yes, 785 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 1: they can take advantage of this team. And I think 786 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: Bucky's dead on about you know, screens and trying to 787 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: take care of their aggressive or I mean, excuse me, 788 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: take advantage of their aggres. But the one thing I 789 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: don't want to see and maybe I don't know, maybe 790 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: me and Bucky, buttheads on this. But like I think 791 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: about Tony Dungee if you watch his work on Sunday nights, 792 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 1: like there seems to be this this current of thought 793 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: that like, in order to protect Andy Dalton, you just 794 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: need to charge Zeke into a brick wall one hundred 795 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: times and that'll help you win. And I hate that 796 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: because I think you're actually doing Andy Dalton at disservice 797 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 1: by doing that. I mean, if you're running on first 798 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 1: and second down regularly and putting yourself in obvious passing situations. 799 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: That's how you get a backup quarterback murdered behind backup 800 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: offensive tackles. I think they need to be unpredictable. They 801 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: still need to be throwing the ball scared money, don't 802 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: make money. Andy Dalton has been to three Pro Bowls. Like, 803 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: you can't you can't pair this thing down to be 804 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: so basic that you're just charging Zeke ahead because you 805 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: think that's going to help you win. So, yes, that 806 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: they can take advantage Zeke should be able to have 807 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: a nice day at the office. But if they're gonna 808 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: try to play you know, nineteen eighty five football because 809 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: they don't have Dak, I think they're in for a 810 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: bad time. Oh. I think they definitely have the weapons 811 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: to do that and to offset blitz is because they 812 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: they've got playmakers in the open field like uh, you know, 813 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: CD and Gallup and and and Cooper that that can 814 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: get off the coverage quickly. Um. And you know, so 815 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: if Patrick Peterson can't cover everybody, you know, obviously, I 816 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: mean he can take one guy, but I think that 817 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 1: you know, he'll probably be better for the Cardinals for 818 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: him to just stay on one side. But if he's 819 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: going to chase someone, and you know that that means 820 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: the other guys are gonna have to travel those two uh, 821 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: those other two spots too. But yeah, I think I 822 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,959 Speaker 1: think it's going to be a really a chess match 823 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: because they can blitz all they want to. But Andy Dalton, 824 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Andy Dalton is a more accurate quarterback I 825 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: think than than than Dak. I mean, and and just 826 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: those passes like that. Now, Dak brings a totally different 827 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: type of game to the you know, and and I'm 828 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: not trying to piss off the Cowboys nation by that, 829 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,760 Speaker 1: but I mean, I think it's it's safe to say 830 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: that that's not what Dak's best thing is is an accuracy. Um, 831 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: he's getting there though, He's getting there, and he's been 832 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: he's been playing great. But I think against the blitz 833 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: and things like this, I think Andy Dalton can carve 834 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: him up if if they can just keep him, you know, 835 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: block just enough, right, And that's that's the issue. And 836 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: that's the question I'm going to post back to you 837 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: guys is, Yeah, I think Dandy Dalton and we talked this, 838 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 1: uh with Bucky about this yesterday, but he could be 839 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: a really good quarterback. From what Bucky says, he can 840 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: be a really good quarterback when he has time, when 841 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: he had when he's protected. Well, when you've got two 842 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: tackles that are inexperienced playing out there, how how how 843 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: convinced are you that they can give him the time 844 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: he needs in order to in order to carve them up, 845 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: especially against the team And we talked about this earlier 846 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: as well, where you don't have one particular pass rusher 847 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: that you need to pay attention to so you can 848 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: double him, chip him, do all those things. This is 849 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: coming from you a lot of different angles, and there's 850 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: some confusing stuff, probably that they're gonna throw out the Cowboys. 851 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: How convince you this offensive why I can hold up Dave? 852 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: I mean, Nick, I'm not really convinced that they that 853 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 1: they can. I think you gotta get the ball out quickly. Um, 854 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: and I think that it's like I said, it's a 855 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: chess match. Though they're gonna be blitz and all, because 856 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: when you blitz all over the field, um, you better 857 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: get it blocked up. You know, if Zach Martin gets 858 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: his guy, then then you can you can bust a 859 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,720 Speaker 1: run right up the middle on them. So it's gonna 860 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: be it's gonna be a fun game because the Cardinals, 861 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean, they do all that trickery stuff because they 862 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: kind of have to. I'm just not convinced that the 863 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals are all that good. I mean, they haven't beaten 864 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 1: anyone yet either, and so the Cowboys aren't good either. 865 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: So this is this is that's why it's a you 866 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,760 Speaker 1: know what two point line right now, it's it's pretty 867 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: much a toss up. Dave. Uh, yeah, no, I'm really 868 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: concerned if if they're in these obvious situations, like I mean, 869 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,720 Speaker 1: this is football one on one, but especially right now, 870 00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: you just can't afford to I'll use Jason Garrett phrase 871 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: like be behind schedule. You know, you take in sacks 872 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 1: or you're putting yourself into third and eight or third 873 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: and ten situations that's not conducive to the success, and 874 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: that you know you're gonna you're gonna have to find 875 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: ways to offset that. M screens is obvious, but yeah, 876 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: maybe you mix in a drop play. Shoot. I'm the 877 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 1: one that said you've got to tweak the offense because 878 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: Andy's not the same. But you know what, they probably 879 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't see coming as a quarterback keeper from Andy Dalton. 880 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,879 Speaker 1: Not saying you should do it a lot, but these 881 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 1: are the types of, you know, misdirections that you can 882 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: use to take advantage of an aggressive chill out. I 883 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,720 Speaker 1: hate any crazy stuff hopping in again, scared money, don't 884 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 1: make money. I'm just saying you gottah, yeah, go ahead. Well, 885 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 1: I just think this is interesting this year, Dak Prescott. 886 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: You know, obviously, in the last decade, Cam Newton's got 887 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: the most rushing touchdown sixty two. Dad. This year's got 888 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: I think three. He's passed Andy Dalton or second players 889 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: on rushing touchdowns by quarterbacks. I didn't know that Andy 890 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: Dalton was up that high, twenty two. If Russell Wilson 891 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: has nineteen, this is since twenty and eleven. M Josh 892 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: Allen's got twenty. So he's coming in fast year from 893 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 1: the from the Bills. But I mean, you know he's 894 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: not He's not a I mean, it was what we 895 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: talked about Monday, right, He's not the what you consider 896 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: to be the statue that sits in the pocket. He 897 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: may not be you know, Russell Wilson, he may not be. 898 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: You know, those guys that are just their game, they 899 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,280 Speaker 1: really can kill you. Running the ball, but that doesn't 900 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: mean he can't take opportunities and be able to do 901 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: something with them. I will just point this out as well, 902 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: and you noticed it in the last game at the 903 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: beginning of the game. I think you're going to see 904 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: even more of it as they go down the line. 905 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,399 Speaker 1: Cowboys started the game with two bootlegs. Cowboys used quite 906 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: a bit of screens. Cowboys use up tempo quite a 907 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: bit to not allow that their opponent to be able 908 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 1: to substitute. I think all three of those things will 909 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: be critical and you will look. I expect to see 910 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 1: a lot of that from this offensive, particularly early in 911 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: the game, because I think that how they'll slow down 912 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: that pass rush, they'll slow down those blitz is just 913 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,879 Speaker 1: a bit, just enough to make them a little more 914 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 1: hesitant in doing it, and then they'll be able to 915 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: get into their regular offense. But I think those are 916 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: some of the things that they've already shown they're willing 917 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: to do in order to help their offensive line out 918 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: a little bit. All right, we appreciate you joining us. 919 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: You know a great amber. I was just gonna say 920 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: the one thing that I think gives me a little 921 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 1: bit of ease is because of Andy Dalton's am I 922 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 1: note of experience. I feel like he's gonna be a 923 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: guy that will just throw the ball away if it 924 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: feels some pressure coming. That he's not gonna have a 925 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: be throwing interceptions instantly. He has the experience to know, Okay, 926 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna toss this ball and throw it away, 927 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,800 Speaker 1: even though I mean, that doesn't make it any better 928 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: really because you're still not completing it past. But I 929 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: think that my expectations as far as like, okay, getting 930 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: pressure and having to throw balls that could possibly be intercepted, 931 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: are lower than what I would feel like if it 932 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: was any other quarterback than Ay Dalton. That's a great point, 933 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 1: and I think that's going to be really important to 934 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 1: how successful they are is how well he can do 935 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: with diagnosing things and then making the smart play quickly. 936 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: All Right, we appreciate you, guys, joann Us, we're back tomorrow. 937 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: We'll tell you what we think is gonna happen on 938 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 1: Monday night for this Monday night game, Cowboys versus Cardinals. 939 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: So then, for Nick Eatman, Dave helm and Amber Garcia, 940 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 1: I am Derek Eagleton. This has been the Break Live 941 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 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