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Speaker 5: He saw them as a fellow American who was maybe

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Speaker 5: led astray and needed to be brought back to the

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Speaker 5: right mindset. And I think that that speaks volumes of

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Speaker 5: who Charlie Kirk was. I think both Lincoln and Charlie

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Speaker 5: Kirk wanted to unite the country at a time of

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Speaker 5: extreme division. Unfortunately, both were killed assassinated for doing just that.

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Speaker 5: And it's hard not to make that comparison.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a it's a good one, and

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Speaker 1: people are comparing him to some monumental figures, and I

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Speaker 1: feel like a lot of it is deserved. You're obviously

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Speaker 1: obviously a woman. I can tell that by because I

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Speaker 1: have eyes and can fog a mirror for you right there.

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Speaker 1: There's you know, sometimes sometimes men look for other men commentary.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes women look for women to together the kind of

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Speaker 1: material and none of that's neither good nor bad. But

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Speaker 1: I think Charlie kind of bridged the gap to where

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Speaker 1: there are It's just interesting. It's anecdotal, but I think

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Speaker 1: one of the videos I posted recently, the overwhelming majority

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Speaker 1: of people that have watched it have been women. I

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Speaker 1: think sixty five percent of the audience has been women.

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Speaker 1: Why was it that Charlie could kind of reach across

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Speaker 1: that gender gap? I guess if you call it so

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Speaker 1: effectively and so well in your opinion, I actually think.

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Speaker 5: There's a few reasons for this. First and foremost, I

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Speaker 5: know that the young men are shifting right, they're becoming

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Speaker 5: more religious. Young women are looking for someone who is

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Speaker 5: also religious and can help guide us, and Charlie and

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Speaker 5: his wife Erica did that in a way that no

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Speaker 5: other has been able to. The Young Women Leadership Summit.

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Speaker 5: That's an opportunity for young women to get together with

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Speaker 5: one another and still have Charlie's expertise and guidance involved

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Speaker 5: in that. And I think the last point to make

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Speaker 5: is Charlie tapped into something that young people have not

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Speaker 5: been able to do, which is embrace their femininity and

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Speaker 5: embrace a traditional female if that's what they choose. Charlie

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Speaker 5: does not shame women for wanting to be mothers, homemakers, wives.

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Speaker 5: In fact, he encourages it. He encourages it through the Gospel,

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Speaker 5: he encourages it through logic and family building. And that's

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Speaker 5: very refreshing for a lot of us who have been

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Speaker 5: taught by colleges, universities that we have to go to school,

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Speaker 5: we have to have a career, and then if we

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Speaker 5: get married and have kids, great, that's a side task.

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Speaker 5: Charlie put an emphasis on something that we innately believe

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Speaker 5: in and have always been, you know, predisposed to want. Well.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was always interesting. I remember the most

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Speaker 1: recent YWLS event, which is the Young Women's Leadership Summit

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Speaker 1: for those of you who not hip to the acronym.

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Speaker 1: There Charlie and Erica gave a presentation by the just

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Speaker 1: the two of them, and it was it was fascinating

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Speaker 1: to watch because Charlie, you know, would say things that

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Speaker 1: are just objectively true, real hard cold facts, something along

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Speaker 1: lines like, yeah, if you're not married by thirty, your

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Speaker 1: perchance chances go down by fifty percent. And Erica would agree,

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Speaker 1: but would blunt it in a certain way like that

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you won't get married. And to me,

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Speaker 1: it was just the exemplication, the the prime example of

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Speaker 1: a man and a woman joined together doing the doing

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Speaker 1: the masculine and the feminine and kind of presenting that

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Speaker 1: to the world. And I always thought that it was

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Speaker 1: like a fascinating dynamic that they had and really kind

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Speaker 1: of emblematic of what a dynamic should be in a marriage,

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Speaker 1: you know, considering men or the way they are and

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Speaker 1: women are the way they are. Brown you know, you

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Speaker 1: you're a reporter for the Federalist. One of Charlie's biggest

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Speaker 1: things that he advocated for is the reporting power on

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Speaker 1: the conservative side of the isle. The New York Times has,

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Speaker 1: you know, reporters everywhere doing everything. A bunch of your

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Speaker 1: left the outlets have reporters on the ground everywhere doing everything.

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Speaker 1: Conservatives just don't really have that. And I hate to

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Speaker 1: put you on the spot here like how to fix that,

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Speaker 1: but you know, as a reporter who does some deep

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Speaker 1: digging into things, what is there to be done about

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Speaker 1: the the lack of reporting power that I Charlie cared

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Speaker 1: so much about and also is just desperately needed on

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Speaker 1: the conservative side of the aisle.

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Speaker 5: I actually think that the way that we're covering Charlie

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Speaker 5: Kirk's assassination is good for that. And what I mean

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Speaker 5: by that is the way that the left wing media,

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Speaker 5: the propaganda press, has covered his assassination has been absolutely egregious.

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Speaker 5: Either they're justifying it, they're saying, well, he said some

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Speaker 5: pretty bad things, if that's some kind of moral high ground.

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Speaker 5: Whereas conservative media, though we may be small, there is

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Speaker 5: a lot of people in America right now that are

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Speaker 5: disgusted by the way that the left wing media is

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Speaker 5: covering this, and they're coming to us. And so I

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Speaker 5: think the more we can do complete accurate reporting, which

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Speaker 5: we always do and attacking the left wing media and

518
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Speaker 5: calling them out on their lives, their hypocrisy, and their gaslighting,

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Speaker 5: it encourages others to come read. And the more readers

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Speaker 5: we get, of course, the more money we can make,

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Speaker 5: the more reporters we can hire. So I think actually

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Speaker 5: working harder now than ever is a good way to

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Speaker 5: get people to come to small, independent outlets that don't

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Speaker 5: have an agenda to fulfill and change hearts and minds.

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Speaker 1: Now, I understand your reporter, I know necessarily want to

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Speaker 1: put the pundit hat on you. But there's munch people

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Speaker 1: getting fired from their jobs for the sick and discussing

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Speaker 1: things that they've posted on social media just as a

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Speaker 1: personal opinion. How does how do you feel about that?

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Speaker 1: I've obviously expressed a great admiration of people getting fired

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Speaker 1: for their sickening posts, but I recognize that you know,

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Speaker 1: might not know at all. What's your perspective on that?

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Speaker 5: I love it. You know, when when Ronald Reagan was

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Speaker 5: nearly assassinated, he sat on the operating table to the

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Speaker 5: doctor something along the lines of I hope you're Republican,

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Speaker 5: and the doctor said, we're all Republicans today. That was

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Speaker 5: the general sentiment.

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Speaker 1: And I believe it was at a.

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Speaker 5: University in which a college student wrote an essay that's

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Speaker 5: somewhat justified or said Reagan, this should have happened to Reagan,

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Speaker 5: and he was immediately blacklisted. I think he might have

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Speaker 5: gotten expel So at that time, just forty years ago,

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Speaker 5: general sentiment was political violence as bad. Now we're at

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Speaker 5: the point where the left is suddenly these absolutist defenders

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Speaker 5: of free speech and are saying that people should be

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Speaker 5: allowed to cheer or support the murder of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 5: You have the right to free speech, you don't have

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Speaker 5: the right to be free from your percussions. And when

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Speaker 5: it comes to celebrating someone assassination, you absolutely do not

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Speaker 5: belong in physicians, of educators, doctors, nurses, hospitals. God forbid.

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Speaker 5: I walked into a hospital needing emergency surgery. Donn and

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Speaker 5: magagear and the doctor someone who's posted thepacit he supports

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Speaker 5: assassination attempts. Can I trust that I'm going to get

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Speaker 5: the best care? Absolutely not. We're bringing civility back to

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Speaker 5: this country. The left wants to go off to the

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Speaker 5: deep end, they can do that. We're gonna hold them

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Speaker 5: accountable now. They don't get to cancel us for small

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Speaker 5: things and then expect that they can get away with

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Speaker 5: celebrating murder.

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Speaker 1: That is such a great you're just the quinny comparisons today.

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Speaker 1: You got Abraham Lincoln. And also, yeah, when Reagan walked

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Speaker 1: into the operating room after getting shot, because I hope

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Speaker 1: you all Republicans, and I don't think they were, if

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Speaker 1: I remember correctly, I think some of the doctors weren't.

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Speaker 1: But you know exactly what you said, we're all Republicans. Tonight,

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Speaker 1: not again a political statement, but a statement of unity.

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Speaker 1: We're all Americans.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Great Brown Aliman, the comparison lady that works to the Federals. Also,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for Jody, I guess really really

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Speaker 1: appreciate taking.

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Speaker 5: The time, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Coming up, We've got it's hard to be funny,

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Speaker 1: but it also is kind of apt because Charlie loved

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Speaker 1: to make fun of libs. We've got clips from around

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Speaker 1: the media, I guess specifically CNN that you're going to

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Speaker 1: roll your eyes at, but also hopefully you know, sharing

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Speaker 1: the enjoyment of mocking them endlessly. Remember you can also

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Speaker 1: email the show TPT at tpusa dot com. We'll be

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Speaker 1: right back after the break. Don't go away, Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Turning Point. Tonight. We're together, we are charting the

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Speaker 1: course of America's cultural comeback. You can email the show

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Speaker 1: anytime you want, TPT at tpusa dot com. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to some of those in the following segment. But,

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Speaker 1: like I mentioned, and I've been mentioning, one of Charlie's

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Speaker 1: biggest things that we would talk about is make fun

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Speaker 1: of the left, not because you're trying to be mean,

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Speaker 1: or rude about it, but that Thomas Moore saying that

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Speaker 1: I think a quote a while ago that the devil

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Speaker 1: can endure to be mocked, the devil can't bear to

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Speaker 1: be made fun of because everything he does is an

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Speaker 1: opposition of truth. And one of Charlie's things, obviously was

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Speaker 1: defending truth. And some of the best ways to illuminate

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Speaker 1: that is through humor, as we've seen. I remember we

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Speaker 1: were backstage where were we University of Wyoming, I think,

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Speaker 1: and there was some discussion of what I was going

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Speaker 1: to say. If you don't know this, I would open

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Speaker 1: up the events for Charlie anytime we were in a

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Speaker 1: big college theater, do five ten minutes and kind of

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Speaker 1: loosen up the audience a little bit because he would

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Speaker 1: make some very funny jokes and sometimes people wouldn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: be prepared for them because they were just ready for

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Speaker 1: the intellect and would you make a funny joke which

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Speaker 1: just go right over people's heads. So my job was

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Speaker 1: like loosen them up a little bit to get them

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Speaker 1: ready for an exciting and engaging and sometimes even humors

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Speaker 1: talk from Charlie. But all that being said, we were

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Speaker 1: backstage in Wyoming and there were some ideas being thrown around,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know if I want

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Speaker 1: to go that far, and Charlie said, dude, just just

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Speaker 1: make fun of the left, because we need to expose

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Speaker 1: the truth and the way that we do that is

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Speaker 1: through humor in so many cases, and that's what he

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Speaker 1: believed and that's what he stuck to. So with that,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's what we're gonna kind of keep doing.

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Speaker 1: In memory of Charlie, I know, we've always been kind

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Speaker 1: of lighthearted on this show, and also I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: sticking around kind of through this tumultuous time trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out what this is, not wanting to make fun

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Speaker 1: of things in a way that we had in the past,

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Speaker 1: because of course there's a somber nature to what it

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Speaker 1: is that we're doing now. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: keeping in mind that Charlie loved to laugh and laugh,

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Speaker 1: we will because again, the devil can't bear to be mocked.

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Speaker 1: Evil cannot bear to be made fun of, because that

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Speaker 1: illuminates the truth. That being said, let's go to some

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Speaker 1: of the interesting clips from around the internet. I think

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Speaker 1: yesterday we played a clip, but also some articles from

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Speaker 1: what was her name? Karen Attia, the Washington Post reporter,

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Speaker 1: that was like, I was fired for saying things that

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Speaker 1: I that Charlie Kirk was a you know, a wh man.

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Speaker 1: Whatever it was that she said, I just quoted him. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you quoted him out of context to further your point,

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Speaker 1: which is why you're not a journalist. Well, that context

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Speaker 1: was exactly what he was saying. Leading into this specific clip,

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Speaker 1: he had said, yeah, Joy Reid was affirmative action, and

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Speaker 1: they said, how dare you? She's a smart person therefore

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Speaker 1: didn't need affirmative action. Yet here's a five second clip

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Speaker 1: of her saying the exact opposite. Watch this.

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Speaker 6: Well, let me just be clear, I got into Harvard

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Speaker 6: only because of affirmative action.

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Speaker 1: But Charlie's saying it is bad because she's a black

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Speaker 1: woman and she has to be protected. Even though she

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Speaker 1: says the thing that, well, we all know because yeah,

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Speaker 1: clearly you didn't get into Harvard on your marriage like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we all know that. But he's a non

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Speaker 1: affirmative action she's definitely qualified. Charlie's evil for saying that. Yeah, okay, good,

648
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Speaker 1: good luck with that. One of the other things that

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Speaker 1: I think is interesting and this is hot again. This

650
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Speaker 1: is so just difficult to define the line between humor

651
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Speaker 1: and seriousness. This next clip is Montel Williams, the former

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Speaker 1: daytime talk show host on CNN. For some reason, I

653
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Speaker 1: not entirely sure why they have him on the panel,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if Steve Wilcos is going to

655
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Speaker 1: be on next, followed by Jerry Springer, who, if he

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Speaker 1: were still alive, would probably happily go on the CNN

657
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Speaker 1: political panel. I'm not sure why he's here, but this

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Speaker 1: is another This is another element in my crusade against language,

659
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Speaker 1: not policing language, but using language inaccurately and irresponsibly. Watch this,

660
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Speaker 1: because this, to some people may sound smart, but what

661
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Speaker 1: it really is is trying to disguise evil and put

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Speaker 1: the blame on someone else. Watch this.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe he was motivated politically. I think this

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Speaker 3: was motivated emotionally. I think this was an emotionally stunded

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Speaker 3: person who literally, I want to say it this way

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Speaker 3: here me tried to defend his significant other, not trying

667
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Speaker 3: to defend some ideology.

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Speaker 7: Although I do think there, I mean, there's clearly an

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Speaker 7: ideological difference, and that's why I played about what they

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Speaker 7: said about the family. I mean the ideological difference that

671
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Speaker 7: he was reacting to wasn't just Charlie Kirk. It was

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Speaker 7: also maybe his dad. I mean his father was according

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Speaker 7: to him, maga. So that conflict was there clearly.

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Speaker 3: But there's a young man who was dating a person

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Speaker 3: in transition.

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Speaker 1: And what like, what point are you trying to make

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Speaker 1: their Montel and Abby? Oh, actually maybe it was he

678
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: was protecting his mentally ill boyfriend. Girlfriend. Again, I don't

679
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Speaker 1: even know which direction is going, which way, I don't

680
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Speaker 1: really care. Clearly, somebody who had the ideology of a

681
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Speaker 1: person a lot of us would be mentally ill. Oh,

682
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Speaker 1: he was just trying to protect that person and what

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Speaker 1: So it's fine, then, Montel, is that is that what

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Speaker 1: you're getting at? Is that what you're alluding to? Oh,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't political, He's just he's just trying to protect

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Speaker 1: this magnificant other. And then Abby saying, well, maybe it

687
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Speaker 1: was a retaliation against his dad. Oh you're okay, Cool,

688
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: it's his dad's fault. You're right, Yeah, that's gonna stick

689
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Speaker 1: and track with mainstream America. Oh yeah, the shooter, you know,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have had to assassinate a father and a husband,

691
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Speaker 1: except for it was his dad. His dad was mean

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Speaker 1: to him, so you know, blame the dad and not

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Speaker 1: the adult who is responsible for his own actions. Again,

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Speaker 1: it's trying to thread the needle between making fun of

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Speaker 1: these people and just unloading on them, but language being

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Speaker 1: a huge part of that, trying to twist it into no, no,

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Speaker 1: this is not political, it's emotional internally. Yeah, okay, fine,

698
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Speaker 1: then what happened? What's the next level of that? Clearly political?

699
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Speaker 1: Clearly the ideology turns people's emotions inside for the worse.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to the radical left and stop trying

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Speaker 1: to obvious skate the obvious intent and where that intent

702
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Speaker 1: comes from. Oh, emotional sounds better, So we're just going

703
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Speaker 1: to use that. No, he's a cold blooded killer that

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Speaker 1: did something abhorrent, and you can't let him off the

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Speaker 1: hook because his dad for some reason. It's ridiculous. Speaking

706
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Speaker 1: of ridiculous, there's another clip from CNN. Then we can

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Speaker 1: make fun of. It's a little bit. It's a little

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Speaker 1: bit easier to poke fun of in levity at watch this.

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Speaker 2: I think there are a lot of families out there

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Speaker 2: who don't believe boys should play girls sports.

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Speaker 5: They're not boys.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to listen to a girl boy when

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Speaker 1: you use they're not just boys, they're not playing.

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna sit there for a second, because, look,

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Speaker 6: this is a really heated issue, right and Shery Michael,

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Speaker 6: I know you. I know that you understand that people

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Speaker 6: have different views on this. I think out of respect

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Speaker 6: for Jay, like, let's try to talk about this in

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Speaker 6: a way that is respectful.

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Speaker 1: M Yes, talk talk about this in a way that

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Speaker 1: is respectful by lying to him. That's how you should

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Speaker 1: be respectful of his feelings. And also as if I

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Speaker 1: will not tolerate transphobia at this table as some sort

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Speaker 1: of an argument, and I recognize this has nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with Charlie. Was just a really interesting clip going around,

726
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Speaker 1: but also gives you a peek and an insight into

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Speaker 1: how libs think, Oh okay, cool. So so if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna make up a term and then decide to be

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Speaker 1: offended at it and therefore you can't tolerate the discussion

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Speaker 1: of it at this particular table, what if we do

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Speaker 1: the same thing. I'm sorry, Jay, I cannot tolerate conserve

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Speaker 1: a phobia. Everything you say is hurtful and violence to

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Speaker 1: me by your words, I will not sit here and tolerate,

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Speaker 1: conserve a phobia being spread, the hate being spread from you.

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Speaker 1: Both sides can do that, by the way, we can

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Speaker 1: do that. I don't think we should. I think we're

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Speaker 1: better than that. I think we're bigger than that. But

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Speaker 1: also don't pretend that that's a good argument. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I will not have transphobia at this table. Okay, you

740
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: can't just make up a word and then pretend to

741
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Speaker 1: be offended by it when somebody talks about reality ridiculous nonsense.

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Speaker 1: You know. One of the things that I think is

743
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Speaker 1: really interesting of where we are at in the culture.

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Speaker 1: I think I've talked about it on this show. But

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Speaker 1: my wife is not the most politically engaged. I think

746
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Speaker 1: I've mentioned this before, but she has decided to engage.

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Speaker 1: Let's put it lightly with friends of hers who posted

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Speaker 1: horrific things after Charlie's assassination, which I think brought up

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Speaker 1: kind of a broader, interesting and fascinating dynamic between people

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Speaker 1: online and on the internet. I thought this was really interesting.

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Speaker 1: I think this was from study fines people on the

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Speaker 1: internet resort to calling names as opposed to engaging in

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Speaker 1: good faith arguments. Nearly half of objections on the internet,

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Speaker 1: according to this study. I think it's Cornell too. By

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Speaker 1: the way that did the study, nearly half of injections

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Speaker 1: online and comment sections are personal attacks rather than actual arguments.

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Speaker 1: In other words, you're commenting, you know Charlie. Somebody said

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00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk is a racist? Like, okay, well, can you

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00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: prove any of that to points, because do you have

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Speaker 1: any evidence of that? Can you share a video that

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Speaker 1: Charlie is a racist or being racist and then they'll

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Speaker 1: say you're just a part of the maga cult. That

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Speaker 1: happens fifty percent of the time. I would love to

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Speaker 1: see this data broken down by ideological lines. How many

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Speaker 1: conservatives resort to saying, ah, Jamie Pritzker is a Lizzo impersonator,

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00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: which you know, you know, maybe some of your favorite

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00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: talk show hosts have said at some point in the past.

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Speaker 1: I know, I don't know when they would have said that,

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Speaker 1: but it's possible. But that's the thing I would be

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Speaker 1: curious to say, the ideological lines. Cornell researchers also identified

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Speaker 1: different taxes that people used to shut down comments, from

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Speaker 1: insults to moral appeals and threats, which again is awful

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Speaker 1: cross talk between political political opposition is a common among

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Speaker 1: many groups challenging the ideas of social media is only

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Speaker 1: an echo chamber, which is absolutely true. And I think

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Speaker 1: what I'm trying to get at, broadly speaking, is how

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Speaker 1: do we resolve this? How do we resolve a culture

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Speaker 1: that online sits to argue with people, not through logic

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Speaker 1: and reason and good faith arguments and debate, but instead

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Speaker 1: defaults to personal insults. I don't understand it, especially on

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00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: social media, And like I said, I will try and

782
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Speaker 1: dig into this. As you know, there's more information that

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00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure will come out about this, because I think

784
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a hot topic to talk about.

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00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: Who's doing more of it? Anecdotally, I would say libs

786
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: are probably more likely to call somebody a racist or

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Speaker 1: fascist and think that they've won the argument, just like

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Speaker 1: that dude who says I will not tend for this

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00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: made up term transphobia at this table. The bottom line

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Speaker 1: is this, Charlie unequivocally advocated for open dialogue, free exchange

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Speaker 1: of ideas. It appears that online and this is not

792
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Speaker 1: probably a shocked anybody appears that online that that culture

793
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: is diminishing. We have to bring it back, because, like

794
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: Charlie said, when people stop talking, that's when violence happens.

795
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: Who we got to, like I said, I promise we

796
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Speaker 1: will get some of the emails in the next and

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00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: last segments. I appreciate you sticking around TPT at TPUSA

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00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: dot com. I also would generally remind people to go

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Speaker 1: buy tickets to Americafest. I can't in good faith tell

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00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: you that there are any tickets left. I don't. I

801
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: genuinely don't know. I just know that what I think

802
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: is the capacity it's possible could have already been read,

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00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: so it's met. So if you'd like you go to

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Speaker 1: America Fest still check it out amfest dot com, A

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Speaker 1: m F E s T dot com. There might be tickets.

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00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: I hope there are, or you know, I hope they

807
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: are not, not because I don't want you to go,

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00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: but because that would mean that this event is sold

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00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: out entirely for people in support of Charlie what he

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Speaker 1: stood for. But try if you can. It is the

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Speaker 1: best event America Fest happening again this December four day events,

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00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: obviously in honor of Charlie. Again, email the show TPT

813
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: ATPSA dot com. We'll be right back after the break.

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Speaker 1: Don't go away, welcome back to turning point tonight. We're together.

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Speaker 1: We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. I've

816
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: been promising for days, We're gonna get to some of

817
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: these emails and know that which we can't get to

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Speaker 1: all of them, but I think there's a select few

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Speaker 1: that I've gotten, and keep them coming. It is awesome

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Speaker 1: to see the outpouring of love for Charlie and his wife,

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Speaker 1: Erica and his two kids, and the Kirk family as

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Speaker 1: a whole. More broadly, tpt at tpusa dot com is

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Speaker 1: where you can send all of those This one's from Wayne.

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Speaker 1: I thought was great. His wife, he said, has gone

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Speaker 1: to two of the vigils and watch the visial the

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Speaker 1: Kennedy Center and watched Ericas speak and felt the Holy

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Speaker 1: Spirit in her as she spoke boldness in her we

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Speaker 1: are stronger. We were praying for the family. I think

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Speaker 1: that is such a great thing to highlight in the

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Speaker 1: midst of clearly a horrible tragedy. I don't know a

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Speaker 1: single person that has not been overwhelmingly impressed by Erica

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Speaker 1: in her response. I said to my wife on Friday afternoon,

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Speaker 1: when it was released that Erica was going to talk.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I could do that, let alone

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Speaker 1: his wife. Not that there's you know, some sort of

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Speaker 1: male female difference there, but I, you know, generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: I tend to be the more strong one in our relationship,

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Speaker 1: and I told them I couldn't do that. And the

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Speaker 1: fact that Erica stood up there like a brick wall

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Speaker 1: and gave her remarks in a loving and caring and

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Speaker 1: kind hearted way was amazing. So yeah, Wayne, we all agree.

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Speaker 1: She's incredible and will definitely continue on in the way

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Speaker 1: that Charlie would have wanted. Maria says, Charlie showed us

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Speaker 1: to love Jesus and love all people. He was the

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Speaker 1: best of humanity and will be missed. He showed me

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Speaker 1: how to speak with passion without getting angry or loud. Man. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm grateful to hear to have heard him speak. God

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Speaker 1: bless him, his family, Long live his legacy and words that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: pointing out the the good hearted nature. Now are there

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Speaker 1: clips where he gets a little bit He yes, But

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Speaker 1: but you gotta remember guys, sitting in front of a

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Speaker 1: massive amount of people for three hours just taking the

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Speaker 1: most vitriolic insults yeah, maybe his voice raised a little bit,

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00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: but overall, like the guy was genuinely kind and ninety

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Speaker 1: nine point nine percent of the time. And I only

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Speaker 1: say this. I only put this qualifier in because there's

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Speaker 1: people that have posted, like a video of ten years

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Speaker 1: ago of him, you know, getting upset with someone and

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Speaker 1: think that that's all. This is his total temperament. The

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Speaker 1: temperament was always calm, is always welcoming and in good nature.

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Speaker 1: I got to move quickly. Kathley said, you know, when

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Speaker 1: liberals reject social norms and condoned murder, they deserve to

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Speaker 1: lose their jobs. I know that's not a memory of

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Speaker 1: Charlie Age's thought. It's nice to see people agree with that.

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Speaker 1: I yes, that is accurate. Misalignment with reality and the

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Speaker 1: social truths that we've all collectively agreed on means that

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Speaker 1: society gets to say no to the side. Rex and

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Speaker 1: Beth said, Charlie and his show have been a part

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Speaker 1: of our life daily. If we didn't catch it in

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Speaker 1: the morning, we would watch it at night. Although never

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Speaker 1: met him personally, we felt that we knew him. That

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Speaker 1: I honestly got Rex and Beth is one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest holes that I didn't know that i'd have when

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Speaker 1: you when you repeatedly listen to folks day in and

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Speaker 1: day out, and you you do, you feel like you

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Speaker 1: get to know them. And you know, obviously there's there's

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Speaker 1: a missing piece in everything that he was doing, but

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Speaker 1: just that consistent, present voice that you just hear every

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Speaker 1: single day, you feel like you get to know people.

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Speaker 1: And Yeah, I can sympathize with that sentiment every single day.

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Speaker 1: It would be, you know, Charlie talking last night. I

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Speaker 1: gotta wrap it up here, Jay, And we've got a

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Speaker 1: couple more and we'll get to those as we go on.

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Speaker 1: Jason's as a sixty four year old gay man who's

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Speaker 1: never been to a political rally end up at a

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Speaker 1: turning point event, it's because of Charlie. Yeah, Jay, I

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Speaker 1: remember you. I remember taking a picture of you in Tampa.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad to see that you're involved. Charlie welcomes

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Speaker 1: everybody to the conservative movement, and he had just that

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Speaker 1: sort of skill to bring anybody into the fold of

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Speaker 1: saving America. That's going to do it for us here

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Speaker 1: at turning Points tonight. Thanks for sticking with us as

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Speaker 1: we kind of try and figure out what this ends

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Speaker 1: up being appreciate you. We will see you tomorrow, same time,

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Speaker 1: same place, God bless America.