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Speaker 2: Cowboys. Are you ready for a Break?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 4: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 4: with Ambar Garcia, Votch Lombardi, and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, welcome back to another episode of The Break,

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Speaker 5: presented by LG. Derek is out today. He'll be back

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Speaker 5: next week, but I'm here with Votch and Tommy. We

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Speaker 5: have a lot to talk about today before we get started.

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Speaker 6: How are y'all good? Are you good?

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Speaker 7: I get the work time, yash Nambar Garcia today you

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Speaker 7: know you know what time it is? You know how feel?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Say what you said before we started the show?

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Speaker 7: Oh, I was just telling it because I don't know

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Speaker 7: if she's sleepy or maybe a little sick or something

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Speaker 7: like that. But I told her if she just wanted

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Speaker 7: to sit back and kick it, I can run my

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Speaker 7: mouth this whole time and be a real good teammate

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Speaker 7: if that's what she needs. But she said, Uh, hell Na,

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Speaker 7: you're not about to keep me off the show. She said,

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Speaker 7: it just like the hell, no, bro, you're not. You're

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Speaker 7: not just about to kick me off the show like that.

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Speaker 5: She said that, so Vach likes to throw little comments

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Speaker 5: here and there that just imply that he wants me

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Speaker 5: off the show. And I say, you know what, that's

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Speaker 5: not your call. So I'm here to stay until Derek

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Speaker 5: tells me other way.

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Speaker 2: I think you're a I think you're the most valuable,

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Speaker 2: the most valua.

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Speaker 7: No, because no, because if it's me or Timmy or something,

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Speaker 7: we just end up fighting and fussing. We don't fight

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Speaker 7: on that level. We just disagree loudly. We have fun,

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Speaker 7: We have incredible and then when we actually agree, I go, damn,

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Speaker 7: we agreed on something and it makes it special.

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Speaker 2: So no, I never kick you out.

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Speaker 8: Here before we get started. I forgot to do this

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Speaker 8: yesterday on the Draft Show, and I apologize. I didn't

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Speaker 8: realize it.

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Speaker 9: Happy belated birthday to mister Lombardi. Had a great day.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, marsh I was a bad team.

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Speaker 6: Recognized it on the Draft showthday.

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Speaker 7: I'm very low key. I'm not one of those people

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Speaker 7: that say, hey, give it up for my birthday. You know,

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Speaker 7: hey sing happy birthday. I'm not one of those people.

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Speaker 7: I'm not one of those people. Actually, I guess Nick's

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Speaker 7: birthday was like.

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Speaker 9: Two days ago Monday.

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Speaker 7: So when people like I was with Nick and Bobby,

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Speaker 7: when they saw Nick, they said, hey, Nick, happy belated birthday.

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Speaker 7: On my actual birthday. I didn't interject and go, hey guys,

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Speaker 7: I'm very low key. If somebody acknowledges, I appreciate you,

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Speaker 7: I really do. But hey man, it's a you know,

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Speaker 7: I low key with mine, you know, But thank you.

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Speaker 6: Tommy had a great birthday, Noah.

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Speaker 2: I went to work and I did I watched film.

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Speaker 2: I'm tired of him.

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Speaker 9: It's cool.

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Speaker 6: Part of life.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, we have a lot of different topics that

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Speaker 5: we're going to touch on today, but before we get

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Speaker 5: into those, like the franchise Tag Brandon Aubrey drama, what's

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Speaker 5: comments that Jerry Jones made in regards to how they're

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Speaker 5: planning on addressing free agency this year, as well as

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Speaker 5: some of those contract reconstruction. I wanted to ask you, Tommy,

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Speaker 8: Number one, George Pickens got the non exclusive franchise tag

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Speaker 8: from the Cowboys. The deadline for that was yesterday. They

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Speaker 9: That essentially means that he's going to be.

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Speaker 8: Allowed to negotiate with other teams like a free agent,

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Speaker 8: Jerry Jones was confident, pointing back at his track record,

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Speaker 8: saying that they have gotten done deals with franchise tag

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Speaker 8: Pickens will be with the Cowboys in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 8: Another free agent of high importance for Dallas, Brandon Aubrey,

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Speaker 8: which means that if they if that gets placed on him,

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Speaker 8: Cowboys have an offer on the table for Brandon Aubrey

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Speaker 8: to become the highest paid kicker in the NFL. Stephen

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Speaker 8: Jones called it a journey when talking to reporters last week.

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Speaker 8: When it comes to that contract negotiation, it's been going

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Speaker 8: We'll see if they can get to the finish line

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Speaker 9: A lot of questions.

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Speaker 8: About, Okay, can this guy become more mature, can he

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Speaker 8: that would be my big headlines.

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Speaker 9: I don't know. We'll dive into some more that came

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, Well, let's let's get into it. You

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Speaker 6: Or confusion that was there.

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Speaker 5: However, the reports are are still true as far as

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Speaker 5: The quote unquote fake report was that it was a

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Speaker 5: seven point five million dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's way more. That's the last but.

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Speaker 5: Like you said Tommy. Jerry did say he would like

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Speaker 5: to make Brandon Aubrey the highest paid kicker in the NFL,

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Speaker 5: and currently the offer that they have on the table

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Speaker 5: would make him that. However, what is that amount because

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Speaker 5: technically six six point seven point a point five would

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Speaker 5: current yeah, what he currently makes a year, which is

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Speaker 5: the highest one. So when it comes to this deal,

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Speaker 5: how are you guys feeling about it right now? As

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Speaker 5: these types of comments, does it make it more complicated

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Speaker 5: a lower amount there point time around their five.

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Speaker 9: Points that second round ten let me check the yeah.

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Speaker 6: But lower lower than six point four.

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Speaker 5: So how are you guys feeling right now with the

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Speaker 5: current drama in this Brandon deal negotiation?

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Speaker 9: Five point eight officially.

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Speaker 8: Numbers or trying to be a specific here, No, I

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Speaker 8: I know that there was the seven and a half

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Speaker 8: all agents would in those negotiations.

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Speaker 9: You always shoot.

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Speaker 8: For the moon and if you get it, great, If not,

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Speaker 8: all right, let's work it out and see what we

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Speaker 8: And the Cowboys recognize that. I think Brandon Aubrey wants

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Speaker 7: Five point eight million dollars is a that's a fine

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Speaker 7: amount of money per year to give old brother Aubrey. Yeah, kicking,

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Speaker 7: kicking is important, brother Tim.

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Speaker 2: You ain't wrong. You know what I'm saying. Kicking's kick

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Speaker 7: Important, But I think it's so many other positions I

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: If Mulagett and then want to give me a hard

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Speaker 7: time about the receiver, I cool man. You want to

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Speaker 7: talk about Aby saving some games kickings, then save us

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Speaker 7: to give us a hard time about Dak and you

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Speaker 7: know a franchise quarterback, one of the better, better guys

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Speaker 7: in the league, sure tid friends give us a hard.

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Speaker 2: Time about quarterback.

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Speaker 7: But if Todd wants to give us a hard time

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Speaker 7: about kicker, and I'm the Joneses, I'll take the second

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Speaker 7: me and Tommy watching a whole bunch of film right now,

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Speaker 7: and I could tell you exactly what I do with

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Speaker 7: what he's doing. I'm gonna go find some rookie cats

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Speaker 7: as I hear you know that don't know what they

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Speaker 7: want to do, what they like, but they play soccer

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Speaker 7: Brandon Aubrey, I would go find some kicker. And your

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Speaker 9: But you don't have guys around the.

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Speaker 5: In this free agency. He said he could see themselves

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Speaker 2: Tommy know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 7: get Quinn Williams or whatever.

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Speaker 7: I can agree that when Steven says, when it gets

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Speaker 7: Your defense is a shining example of that. The Cowboys

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like it's horrible.

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Speaker 7: So I would have to agree that the Joneses would

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Speaker 7: I don't think that's what it is. I think they're

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Speaker 6: What position would make you go? I don't want to

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Speaker 7: Based on what's out there, I would say pass rushing.

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Speaker 7: If we look at the Super Bowl, Kaylevon Chason was

443
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Speaker 7: making plays, you know, technically, you know, Kyris Toga was

444
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Speaker 7: making plays, Uchina Nuosu was making plays. I think it's

445
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Speaker 7: gonna be some players kind of in that range to

446
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Speaker 7: where they can It's just that they're much better than

447
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Speaker 7: what we have. But they may not be superstar level.

448
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Speaker 7: But I can't see a superstar tight level pass rush.

449
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Speaker 7: I think that's that's their idea.

450
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think pass rushes where you need your most help.

451
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Speaker 8: So it would make sense if that's where you devote

452
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Speaker 8: a majority of your free agent resources. But you know,

453
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Speaker 8: there were structures that they made today that frees up

454
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Speaker 8: forty seven million. That still doesn't get them to cap compliant.

455
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Speaker 8: They would have to work that Seed Lamb deal, which

456
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Speaker 8: is expected to happen. Like you said, amblar that would

457
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Speaker 8: get them to sixty six me. I think they would

458
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Speaker 8: get them ten million over or something along those lines.

459
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Speaker 9: Don't quote me on that.

460
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Speaker 8: And these are all expected moves, and there's going to

461
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Speaker 8: be more because you've got sixty four million dollars tied

462
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Speaker 8: up between Quinn Williams, Kenny Clark and OsO Diggi Zua.

463
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Speaker 8: They're not going to go into the season with that.

464
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Speaker 8: Jerry Jones said as much on his bus last Friday

465
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Speaker 8: at the combat in Indianapolis.

466
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Speaker 9: So they're going to rework some more of that.

467
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Speaker 8: They'll have other options where they can rework. I think

468
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Speaker 8: they can rework Jake Ferguson and Deron Blant too if

469
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Speaker 8: they want to. The question is how much do they run?

470
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Speaker 8: And we want to rework because this money just doesn't

471
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Speaker 8: disappear push you're pushing it out and so eventually this

472
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Speaker 8: money's going to have to be paid. But Jerry Jones

473
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Speaker 8: made it very clear on his luxury bus Friday night,

474
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Speaker 8: he is willing to take from his future to invest

475
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Speaker 8: in the present. And my biggest thing is you gotta

476
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Speaker 8: show it this time. You can say it all you want,

477
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Speaker 8: It's been said all you want, and you gotta show

478
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Speaker 8: at this time. This needs to be If they're saying,

479
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Speaker 8: you know, bust the budget is what we've heard, borrow

480
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Speaker 8: some of the future, they need to do it this

481
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Speaker 8: time around because this defense, as we have very clearly

482
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Speaker 8: alluded to and everybody saw of our seventeen games, was

483
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Speaker 8: awful and they are more than one player away. Jerry

484
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Speaker 8: Jones said they're more than one player away, and he

485
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Speaker 8: even said that this is not a team, that he

486
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Speaker 8: doesn't think this is a team, and the quote was

487
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Speaker 8: it would be a stretch to think this team is

488
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Speaker 8: going to turn around and be one of the top

489
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Speaker 8: units in the league. The caveat to that is they

490
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Speaker 8: don't need to be. They don't need to be a

491
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Speaker 8: top ten defense in order to win games and win

492
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Speaker 8: games late in the season. They need to be good

493
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Speaker 8: enough to help compliment this offense and give Dak Prescott

494
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Speaker 8: the ball a little bit more so that he can

495
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Speaker 8: throw to one freak show wide receiver on the other

496
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Speaker 8: side and the other freak show wide receiver on the

497
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Speaker 8: other side. And I think that if you want that,

498
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Speaker 8: it certainly starts with a pass rusher first, because you

499
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Speaker 8: need to affect a quarterback. Christian Parker wants to do that.

500
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Speaker 8: Everybody in football wants to do that. After that, I

501
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 8: think you can kind of have some fun with it.

502
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Speaker 8: If you want a veteran linebacker and you don't because

503
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Speaker 8: you don't think some of these guys in the draft,

504
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Speaker 8: like a Sunny Styles are going to be there for

505
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Speaker 8: you at twelve, then you know, you maybe spend a

506
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Speaker 8: little bit more on a veteran linebacker. Do you want

507
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Speaker 8: a solid corner that you know we were talking about

508
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Speaker 8: this on the Draft Show yesterday. Would it be better

509
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Speaker 8: to sign a veteran corner that has been through the fire,

510
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Speaker 8: that has been thrown on before versus a rookie guy

511
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Speaker 8: that may be picked.

512
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Speaker 9: On a little bit earlier in his career.

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Speaker 8: The biggest thing is Jerry Jones knows that he doesn't

514
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Speaker 8: have time to waste. He knows that, you know, they've

515
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Speaker 8: got to get this thing turned around quickly because if

516
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Speaker 8: there is a window of sorts, if you want to

517
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Speaker 8: call it, because it looks like there is that they're

518
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Speaker 8: trying to win in with Dak Prescott, it's going to

519
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Speaker 8: be over the next two to three years, and they're

520
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 8: going to have to really invest in the present if

521
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Speaker 8: they want to take advantage of that.

522
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Speaker 7: Tell me it seems like you really wanted to tell

523
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Speaker 7: us about Jerry's bus, Like like you.

524
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Speaker 2: Have a story.

525
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Speaker 6: You mentioned.

526
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Speaker 2: Jerry's bus and then he came back the luxury bus.

527
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Speaker 2: Luxury bus, you guys, something you want to say.

528
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Speaker 8: It's a cool bus. It's luxurious. That was my first

529
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Speaker 8: time on the Jerry bus.

530
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Speaker 2: Tell you it looked like you want to tell us

531
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Speaker 2: about it.

532
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Speaker 9: No, I was just saying, that's that's where he was,

533
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Speaker 9: That's where he made these comments.

534
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Speaker 2: We get you were there, Okay, I'm sorry.

535
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Speaker 7: I mean with the damn with the damn lobster bar

536
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Speaker 7: on it. Yeah, tell us, I'm sorry.

537
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Speaker 6: All right.

538
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Speaker 5: I have a question for you guys, and this is

539
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Speaker 5: just more for fun because we cannot we don't know

540
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Speaker 5: the exact numbers or any of that just yet. But

541
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Speaker 5: if you know, there are like three categories when it

542
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Speaker 5: comes to free agency. Those names are the big names,

543
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 5: the ones that you would call is splash. Those are

544
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Speaker 5: in the middle where vast majority of NFL fans would

545
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 5: reckon nice. And then the ones are at the bottom

546
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 5: that you hear all they sign so and so and

547
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 5: you're like, wait, who, who's done? And then you have

548
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 5: to do some research if it was up to you,

549
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 5: and obviously staying somewhat realistic of numbers and all of that,

550
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Speaker 5: how many from let's say the top guy, middle guy,

551
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 5: and bottom guy would you realistically quote unquote be able

552
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 5: to get in this free agency.

553
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 7: Sometime you would assume that the past rusher would be

554
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 7: around twenty five to thirty some million, possibly somewhere.

555
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 9: Around there, maybe even less than that.

556
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Speaker 7: So like from nineteen to twenty eight million, you would say,

557
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Speaker 7: I would probably venture to say, yeah, so that's where

558
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 7: you're that's where your big chunk is coming from. You

559
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 7: would say that they go next highest at linebacker or

560
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Speaker 7: corner or something like that.

561
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 9: I would look, yeah, one of those two.

562
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 7: And linebacker is gonna feel like eight to ten or something.

563
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 7: Maybe possibly, Yeah, I think I think everybody else is

564
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 7: going to be anywhere between two to ten or two

565
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 7: to seven or something like that, like a couple of

566
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Speaker 7: two to seven guys, and then they're gonna draft, and

567
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 7: after that, after that, it's gonna be a bunch of

568
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 7: lead like lead league lead minimum guys like million, million,

569
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 7: million like those. When Kendricks was signed a couple of

570
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 7: years ago, he'll come in and play for you. There

571
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 7: are a couple more examples. Uh Shaq, Shack lost in

572
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 7: not Shack lost in Shack Thompson Thompson. Uh no, no, no, no,

573
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 7: no pass Rusher, he was here anyway. Uh, there's a

574
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 7: you know, there's some bargain shopping that they're that they're

575
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 7: likely gonna do after the draft to fill up the

576
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 7: roster even more. But if I had to guess pre

577
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Speaker 7: draft ambar and they're being super aggressive, I'd say four

578
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Speaker 7: guys make sense, one super expensive, maybe two in the middle,

579
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 7: and maybe a cheap guy, and then they'll do their

580
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Speaker 7: thing after.

581
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Speaker 9: I would agree with that.

582
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Speaker 8: I think realistically, the top tier guys, and there aren't

583
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Speaker 8: that many top tier guys in this preation class.

584
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 9: I wouldn't.

585
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Speaker 8: I would say, but yeah, you're you're probably gonna get

586
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Speaker 8: one of the guys that everybody knows, and then really

587
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 8: just try to fill the roster with plus players, not

588
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 8: necessarily superstars and all pro type players, but guys that

589
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 8: can do their jobs, Guys that know where they need

590
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 8: to be on the field, guys that can fit in

591
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 8: this scheme. Fit is so important, and you know, Will

592
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 8: McClay was talking about it with the fan last week

593
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 8: at the Combine is that one thing that we get

594
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Speaker 8: wrong a lot being the media is evaluating fit on

595
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Speaker 8: the defense and fit in general in football. So you know,

596
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 8: they need to trust their guys like Will McClay and

597
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 8: the scouting department to find that fit and they have

598
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Speaker 8: shown in the past that they can find.

599
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Speaker 9: Guys who fit.

600
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Speaker 8: They're also the instances where guys don't fit, but you're

601
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Speaker 8: naturally going to have those, so but this is obviously

602
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Speaker 8: paramount to find the guys that do fit in this

603
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Speaker 8: new scheme, and they're going to have to have a

604
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 8: good conversation with Christian Parker to figure out what that

605
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Speaker 8: looks like.

606
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Speaker 2: Shank Lawson was a name out.

607
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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, I think this year, I'm hoping it will

608
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Speaker 5: be very different than what we have seen in years prior.

609
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Speaker 5: I would say it started with last year. I know

610
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Speaker 5: people fans, you guys, like to criticize and say, oh,

611
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Speaker 5: Jerry this, Jerry that. But I think we started seeing

612
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Speaker 5: changes since last year in the way they conduct the

613
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Speaker 5: off season free agency and making certain moves that were

614
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Speaker 5: not used to seeing them make, and with Brian Schottenheimer

615
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Speaker 5: and the new addition for the defensive coordinator with Christian Parker.

616
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Speaker 5: I think it brings brings some freshness to this whole

617
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Speaker 5: thing where hopefully we will see big changes and I

618
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Speaker 5: don't want it to be like a developmental type of

619
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Speaker 5: stuff hopefully finds And with the comments that Jerry has

620
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Speaker 5: been making, it seems like he's also desperate for it

621
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Speaker 5: to happen.

622
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Speaker 9: Now.

623
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Speaker 5: Now when you talk about Tommy him making that comment

624
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Speaker 5: of taking from the future and applying it, now you

625
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Speaker 5: see that. So I guess we'll wait and see what

626
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 5: a curse free agency does officially start next week, sure,

627
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Speaker 5: and we'll see what those moves currently are going to

628
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Speaker 5: be bad.

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Speaker 2: What Tommy, when when you're damn what, we're about.

630
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Speaker 7: To go to break, I'll ask, I'll ask for it.

631
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Speaker 5: Let's go to break, and when we come back. Votch

632
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Speaker 5: has an amazing question directly to Tommy.

633
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Speaker 9: I hope you're doing well, Derek.

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Speaker 6: That's buddies upstairs.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, you don't have a luxury sweet upstair. I

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Speaker 2: You don't.

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Speaker 9: She has her own luxury.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you had a question I forgot. The question was, Oh,

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Speaker 5: my goodness.

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Speaker 7: Tommy, when you were on the luxury bus that you

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Speaker 7: didn't drink on when you were talking to Jerry, did

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Speaker 7: you get a feel that trades were also a part

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Speaker 7: of the conversation or the equation. I was thinking back

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Speaker 7: on Cowboy acquisition a couple of years ago. I really

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Speaker 7: like when they took the day three picks I believe

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Speaker 7: it was a five and then like a five and

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Speaker 7: a six or something like that to go get Gilmore

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Speaker 7: and Cooks. I thought that was a fantastic way to

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Speaker 7: use those resources, just in case somebody's not blown away

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Speaker 7: by the available guys that's going to be free agents

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Speaker 7: next week. Did you get a feel that Jerry would

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Speaker 7: take one of those day three picks and go and

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Speaker 7: get somebody from another team?

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Speaker 8: He got asked about trades on the luxury bus that

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Speaker 8: I did not drink on because I was working.

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Speaker 2: What do he said?

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Speaker 8: And he said, quote, I don't know that i'd expect it,

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Speaker 8: but we have the ammunition to be good at it,

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Speaker 8: and I wouldn't hesitate to be good at it if

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Speaker 8: it will help our team and help the timeline that

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Speaker 8: we're talking about. So essentially, it's on the table. It

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Speaker 8: usually is always on the table, but it's going to

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Speaker 8: have to be an offer that comes across the table

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Speaker 8: that is too good to refuse, Like it's gonna have

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Speaker 8: to be something where they feel like you can dip

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Speaker 8: into the future a little bit, but it's not something

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Speaker 8: that hurts you too much down the line.

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Speaker 9: So you do with that what you will.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know what, do you think it's a

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Speaker 5: situation where they're the ones making the offer to the

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Speaker 5: other teams or because one thing is just waiting to see.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you're open hearing what people got to offer,

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Speaker 5: but are you the one being proactive in making those offers.

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Speaker 8: I would think that they're poking around and trying to

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Speaker 8: figure out what asking prices are for certain things or

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Speaker 8: certain draft picks or certain players, and then if it

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Speaker 8: gets to a certain point where it's like, wait a minute,

746
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Speaker 8: we think, if this is the asking price, we can

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Speaker 8: make this work. But you know, obviously in the past

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Speaker 8: they have said that they wait for the phone to

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Speaker 8: ring and they feel like, you know, you are in

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Speaker 8: a better position to negotiate when the other person is

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Speaker 8: calling you. So I would think a little bit of both.

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Speaker 8: But it doesn't sound like anything is imminent in terms

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Speaker 8: of like, hey, we because Jerry said in the past

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Speaker 8: two of like when it comes to the deadline, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 8: we're working on some things.

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Speaker 9: He said it last year with Queen Williams.

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Speaker 8: The year before that, he literally said, we have a

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Speaker 8: trade in place and we're not going to announce it yet.

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Speaker 8: And then you know, thirty minutes later was Jonathan Mingo.

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Speaker 8: So it can always change in a blink of a second.

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Speaker 8: And this is the time of year when we saw

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Speaker 8: the Chiefs.

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Speaker 7: And the hanging around boy sess that Mingo.

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Speaker 8: Man, he had to deal with some very poor quarterback

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Speaker 8: play in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 9: I feel bad for him, But.

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Speaker 8: You know, this is the time of year and leading

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Speaker 8: up to the draft for Yu'll start to see those

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Speaker 8: conversations ramp up. I mean we saw it today with

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Speaker 8: the Chiefs and the Rams, and so you know it

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Speaker 8: would be for draft capitol, or it could be for

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Speaker 8: a veteran player. I would lean towards if they do

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Speaker 8: make a trade, then go and get a veteran player

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Speaker 8: that can plug and play in this defense.

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Speaker 7: I think that's one thing I would really like the

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Speaker 7: Jones Is to hit on this year is take those

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Speaker 7: those those Day three picks and look, man, you can

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Speaker 7: look at the day three picks, and you can call them,

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Speaker 7: you know, darts to the board or something like that,

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Speaker 7: just gambles, dice rolls, whatever you want to call them.

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Speaker 7: I would much rather have the player that I know

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Speaker 7: can come in and play, even if that guy is older,

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Speaker 7: I would rather that player. Then we're wasting a roster

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Speaker 7: spot for a couple of years because some seventh round

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Speaker 7: pick that won't make the team just it just doesn't

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Speaker 7: work out. Take that seven and go get a guy,

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Speaker 7: and let's go play ball for.

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Speaker 2: The next three years.

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Speaker 5: What they got picks, We'll see what they make from

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Speaker 5: those and see what they do, because that's the thing.

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Speaker 5: We hear it for years and years. We hear how

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Speaker 5: much they value those draft picks. But then also in

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Speaker 5: recent years we've been seeing them make trades with some

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Speaker 5: of those picks. So I'm very curious to see how

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Speaker 5: they manage it this year. Now that Shoddy is going

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Speaker 5: into his second year where he's okay, he knows what

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Speaker 5: the deal is, he knows what's going on, We'll see

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Speaker 5: how involved his in all of those decisions there. I

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Speaker 5: wanted to ask you both, and I don't know how

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Speaker 5: much you were following up with all the comments that

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Speaker 5: Christian Parker made during the combined week, But were there

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Speaker 5: was there anything specifically that stood out to you guys

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Speaker 5: as far as some of those comments that he was

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Speaker 5: making when talking about players and scheme and things like that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Chris Parker don't want no dumb people on his defense,

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Speaker 7: and I'm not calling anybody dumb specifically, but if you

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Speaker 7: listen to Christian Parker, I think he mentioned it a

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Speaker 7: couple of times. He said, Man, look this same what

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Speaker 7: do you say, Timmy? This ain't the YMCA or something

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Speaker 7: like that. But also he don't want just hightweight speed

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Speaker 7: guys like you have to be able to like processing

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Speaker 7: is imperative in his defense and maybe man in some

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Speaker 7: other defenses. Coaches don't want you to process all that much.

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Speaker 7: They just want you to be able to run fast

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Speaker 7: and play fast. Think, I think Christian Parker is going

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Speaker 7: to ask a lot from his players mentally, and that

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Speaker 7: may be where we find value in some veteran guys

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Speaker 7: or anything like that, you know, as opposed to some

819
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Speaker 7: of the young dudes we're trying to find work for.

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Speaker 7: I think they're going to prioritize smart dudes and it's

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Speaker 7: going to be interesting to see who they deem as

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Speaker 7: a smart dude.

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Speaker 8: They're going to prioritize that, and they're also going to

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Speaker 8: prioritize guys who fit what their playing style is. That's

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Speaker 8: one of the things that stood out to me when

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Speaker 8: we talked to Christian Parker was, you know, he felt

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Speaker 8: that sometimes we talk a little bit too much about scheme.

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Speaker 8: I don't think he's as concerned with the scheme as

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Speaker 8: he is with Okay, what's our identity going to be?

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Speaker 8: Brian Schenheimer said it several times. His players came up

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Speaker 8: to him at the end of the year last year

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Speaker 8: when they were doing their after action reports and said,

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Speaker 8: I don't feel like we had an offense a defensive

834
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Speaker 8: identity and that was very easily seen on the field.

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Speaker 8: So what kind of play style do they want? You know,

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Speaker 8: he was talking about, what do we want it to

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Speaker 8: look like? Whatever our principles of play, how are we

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Speaker 8: taking on blocks, how are we situational aware?

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Speaker 9: And you know, the education behind it. Vatch mentioned it.

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Speaker 8: They want they need smart players and guys who have

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Speaker 8: football instinct high football instincts, high football LIKEQ whatever buzzwords

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Speaker 8: you want to you want to use for it and

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Speaker 8: that comes in the way of veteran players, or can

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Speaker 8: come in the way of veteran players if you want

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Speaker 8: to truly take advantage of what it is Christian Parker's

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Speaker 8: trying to do, and Patrick asked him a good question.

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Speaker 9: Patrick Walker asked him a good question. What are some

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Speaker 9: non negotiables that you have when it comes to corners.

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Speaker 8: Because he has a secondary background, He's developed a lot

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Speaker 8: of guys in the secondary, mainly at the corner position.

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Speaker 8: I think you have to be physically and mentally tough.

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Speaker 8: I think that's where it starts. We want guys that

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Speaker 8: are willing to tackle them, put their hands on people,

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Speaker 8: and you know, and you know they can bounce back

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Speaker 8: from things to make life perfect. It's a different position.

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Speaker 8: It's a lonely spot out there. There's no Wi Fi,

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Speaker 8: so you understand that you're on an island, and that

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Speaker 8: can be a lonely place to be, especially when you're

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Speaker 8: getting picked on. And we've seen corners on this team

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Speaker 8: get their confidence crushed when they continue to get thrown

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Speaker 8: at it and they continue to have big plays put

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Speaker 8: on them. And I think Christian Parker is looking for

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Speaker 8: guys that have the mental fortitude to say I just

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Speaker 8: gave up that big play. Let's go to the next one.

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Speaker 8: Try to make a play the next time. And that's

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Speaker 8: hard to find. And that's hard to find, especially in

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Speaker 8: younger players. So that's why we talk about veteran corners

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Speaker 8: who have been picked on, who know that the ball

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Speaker 8: is going to come their way and know that they're

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Speaker 8: not going to make every play.

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Speaker 9: You're not going to make every play as a corner.

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Speaker 8: It's just as impossible in this league, and so you

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Speaker 8: need guys who can turn the page, get back on defense,

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Speaker 8: and try to make the play the next time around.

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Speaker 5: Is turning this defense around realistically something that you're able

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Speaker 5: to do in.

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Speaker 8: Just one year depends what your definition of turning it

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Speaker 8: around is. Do you want this to be a top

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Speaker 8: ten unit.

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Speaker 2: Good enough to win, good enough to win the safe

881
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: the fifteen?

882
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,959
Speaker 9: Sure, it'd be tough. It'd be tough. Fifteen, it'd be tough.

883
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think it'll be that too.

884
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 9: I think it'd be pretty tough. I think it'd be

885
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 9: easier to be top twenty.

886
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 6: I mean that's even top twenty. I mean that's still

887
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 6: pretty drastic game.

888
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 9: Well sure, yeah, Well, here's the thing.

889
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 8: The bar is so low that you know anything is

890
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 8: more than likely going to be an improvement. I don't

891
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 8: think this is going to be a top ten unit

892
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 8: this next year. If their top twenty, I think you can.

893
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 8: If you look at last year's schedule, I think you

894
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 8: win at least two more games with a top twenty

895
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 8: defense versus dead last.

896
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 7: I think you win two more games with the twenty

897
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 7: ninth defense in the league. Like those games in the

898
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 7: middle of the season were close and the Cowboys, as

899
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 7: unrealistic as it was, they were technically fighting for a

900
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 7: playoff spot at the end of the year with the

901
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 7: thirty ninth word. I don't want to talk about old

902
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 7: boy Man. I talk about him every single episode of Break.

903
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 7: I don't want to do it. But this defense was

904
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 7: horror terrific, and I think with a simple change of

905
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 7: scheme bumps you at least ten places. I always go

906
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 7: to the Patriots for example. Right, them dudes was drafting

907
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 7: fourth overall the year before and then they flipped that

908
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 7: were not a you know, they put a lot more

909
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 7: money into it than we did, but just on defense. Right,

910
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 7: they took some cool to serviceable dudes. They got some

911
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 7: good play from the from their draft picks and their

912
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 7: offense win score points, and that major defense a little

913
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 7: bit better as well. It didn't work out when they

914
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 7: got to the Bowl, but our quarterback better than is.

915
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: It is what it is. But at the end of

916
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: the day, that defense was so horrible.

917
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 7: You was in games with the worst defense I've ever

918
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 7: seen in my life, not just not just thirty second words,

919
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 7: but I've ever seen in my life. If you just

920
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 7: fix up the the mistakes here, the nonsense here. I

921
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 7: think if you just made one change at one position,

922
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 7: because I don't want to talk about Cannon Murray right now,

923
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 7: then you don't give up as many big plays or

924
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 7: just Trevon Diggs gambling when a game is closer he

925
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 7: slips and fall when this happened.

926
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: If you just take away three.

927
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 7: Nonsensical mistakes, a lot of those games are different. So

928
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 7: we're talking about and three or four more guys and

929
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 7: drafting two more guys, and your offense is in the

930
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 7: second year and it is going to be more effective.

931
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 7: I come on, man, we may not have a kicker.

932
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 7: They can kick if it's up to me. If it's

933
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 7: up to me, it's gonna get done. But I really

934
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 7: do think you can turn this defense around.

935
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 6: And I don't think I forgot when we had like

936
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 6: Brett maher.

937
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 7: I was around for my head and my herd was

938
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 7: going crazy until he wasn't going crazy, right, And Martine Grammatica,

939
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 7: I was around for all these guys.

940
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: I know what bad kickers look like.

941
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

942
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 8: My thing is, I think the NFL shit we have been.

943
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 8: This has been an offensive league for so long, and

944
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 8: it still will be in the future.

945
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 9: I think you need a good offense to win games.

946
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 8: But I think the when you've got two really good

947
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 8: teams like you saw in the Super Bowl, right, New

948
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 8: England Seattle, two very good teams who had very similar approaches,

949
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 8: and Stephen Jones and Jerry Johnes have referenced them a ton,

950
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 8: what ultimately is the tiebreaker is who has a better defense.

951
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 8: Seattle had the best defense in the league. Seattle and

952
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 8: Houston had the best defense of the league last year.

953
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 8: And I think you truly need an elite defense to

954
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 8: be able to not just win late in the year,

955
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 8: but win everything at the end of the day.

956
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 9: That's Dallas's goal.

957
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 8: It's all third two teams goals, right, If you don't

958
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 8: have a defense that can hang around, and I mean,

959
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 8: what do you think about Seattle and Houston?

960
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 9: What do they do? Man? Did they get after the quarterback?

961
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 8: Did they get pressure and really affect everybody's passing game?

962
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 8: That is so important? And they have the guys in

963
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 8: the secondary that can make plays on the football that

964
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 8: make it very tough for receivers to get open. I

965
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 8: think that is ultimately the difference maker.

966
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 9: So you need.

967
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 8: A top ten unit, I think to be able to

968
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 8: truly be in that conversation. Am I saying you can't

969
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 8: get to the Super Bowl with the top fifteen top

970
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 8: sixteen unit?

971
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 9: Not necessarily? Every year is different, You never know.

972
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 8: And this offense is good enough with a mediocre to

973
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 8: above average defense be able to win games excuse me

974
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 8: late in the year, But if you truly want to

975
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 8: get over the top and be the best team in

976
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 8: the league without shadow of a doubt, you need a bunch.

977
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 9: Of dogs on defense.

978
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 8: And I don't know if you can turn this defense

979
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 8: into that in one year.

980
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 7: Are you saying any team needs a top ten defense

981
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 7: to be there? Or the Cowboys, with the context of

982
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 7: who their offense is, they need a top ten defense

983
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 7: to be there?

984
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 8: Well, I think any team you realistically would want that

985
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 8: type of unit, and you need that type of unit to.

986
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: We all want this, sure, but I think.

987
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 8: Where this is trending is you need a top ten

988
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 8: unit to be able to hang around in February.

989
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 7: I think in context of what this Cowboys offense is,

990
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 7: I'll give them a little more grace.

991
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: I think I think fifteen.

992
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 9: I'm not saying it can't work. I'm not saying it

993
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 9: can't work.

994
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 8: I'm just saying that if you're wanting to every time,

995
00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 8: if you want the highest probability for that, if you

996
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 8: want the higher probability for that, you're you're going to

997
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 8: need that that defense that takes away the elite offense.

998
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 9: I guess.

999
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 5: So what I got from that not doable and possibly doable.

1000
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 6: We both I believe, I believe well.

1001
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 9: Jerry Jones said it himself. He said it would be

1002
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 9: a stretch to make this a top unit in the

1003
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 9: league in one year.

1004
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, quite the stretch.

1005
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 6: But you never know.

1006
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 5: You never know because when we go back to it,

1007
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 5: a lot of those games were indeed very close. So

1008
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 5: we'll see what happens. But I'm tired of talking about, oh,

1009
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 5: we're so close, We're so no you got to be

1010
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 5: the one dominating. You got to be the one taking

1011
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 5: the lead and taking control of things.

1012
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 6: So hopefully the right moves are made.

1013
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 5: We'll be back next week on Wednesday, and that Wednesday

1014
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 5: afternoon is when free agency starts.

1015
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 8: Right next week technically is yes, when the new league

1016
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 8: year starts. Legal legal tampering will begin on Monday next week.

1017
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: So we'll get news Monday, and then.

1018
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 8: Three o'clock, three o'clock Central time is when the new

1019
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 8: NFL league year begins.

1020
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 7: Just for context, is there a reason, like, is there

1021
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 7: a difference between tampering period and wee can and what

1022
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 7: happens Wednesday? Like what makes it? What makes that Monday

1023
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 7: and Tuesday different from Wednesday?

1024
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 9: Sure, a great question.

1025
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 8: Monday and Tuesday you can agree to terms on a deal,

1026
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 8: and you can come to agreements in terms of numbers, years,

1027
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 8: those kinds of things. Wednesday is when you can officially

1028
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 8: begin to sign those.

1029
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 7: Submit to paperwork and stuff that guys, I appreciation you

1030
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 7: started the talks, So it starts Monday.

1031
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 5: You start talking, mingling around and seeing what's out there,

1032
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 5: what you can get done, and then yeah, make it

1033
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 5: official starting on Wednesday.

1034
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 6: Well that's it for today.

1035
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