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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Milly to Jericho Daniel Henderson,

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Speaker 1: and we're film people doing a film podcast. Odd people,

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Speaker 1: Odd people. I had.

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Speaker 2: I had chili for breakfast, so I feel weird.

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Speaker 1: Chili's the restaurant. Chili's no chili, Oh chili.

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Speaker 2: I made chili for dinner and then I had it

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Speaker 2: for breakfast, and I just feel weird about it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I just needed the protein breakfast chili.

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Speaker 1: That a really sounds kind of good in a weird way.

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Speaker 2: I make. I make a good turkey chili. It's turkey based, yes,

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Speaker 2: and it's like healthy, but I still ate it for breakfast,

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Speaker 2: and I just feel real weird.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's fine. I'd wish I wish it was cold enough.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can see this, if you

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Speaker 1: can see what I'm sitting, I'm in my parents guest bedroom.

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Speaker 1: I'm in Florida. All the pastels probably tipped you off.

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Speaker 1: I wish it was cold enough to eat chili. It's

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Speaker 1: still like one hundred and seventy five degrees down here.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, thanks? Did they move the room around?

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Speaker 1: I feel like they Oh, okay, let's i'll briefly discuss this, which.

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Speaker 2: I also know from looking at the background for months

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Speaker 2: while you were there during lockdown.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so technically I'm in front of a window right now.

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Speaker 1: I showed up the other day and the entire house

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Speaker 1: is flipped flip tripped upside out. My mother says that

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Speaker 1: the feng shui was off here in the house, so

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Speaker 1: they flipped around everything, like literally all the bedrooms, they

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Speaker 1: turned over all of the living room furniture. So my

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Speaker 1: poor dog Sophie, who is going to be fourteen in

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Speaker 1: about nineteen days, fourteen years old, vision problems, maybe a

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Speaker 1: little bit of you know, doggy dementia. Perhaps she's pinballing

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Speaker 1: around this motherfucker. She's like us, slamming into tables and couches,

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Speaker 1: and she can't even get a sense of where she's

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Speaker 1: at because she's been here for like so many times.

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Speaker 1: We lived here for nine months, remember during the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: and now everything's different. So she's just poor girl is

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Speaker 1: just having a hard time.

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Speaker 3: That is so mean, but so funny, so mean, she's

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Speaker 3: so like what I thought, this was supposed to be

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Speaker 3: a place where I could jump onto and now it's

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Speaker 3: a side table, with seashells glued to it anyway.

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Speaker 2: You can't go home again.

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Speaker 1: You cannot, And this is something I want to talk

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Speaker 1: to you about this, Bring it on. Okay, So a

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Speaker 1: few episodes ago you brought up the fact that I

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Speaker 1: went and saw the band three eleven again after having

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Speaker 1: not seen them since the late nineties, and blah blah blah. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we had a great time talking about it. I think

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Speaker 1: our listeners are really appreciative of our discussion about hot

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Speaker 1: boxing outside of eleven a three eleven concert, right, So,

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Speaker 1: I think I've bit off more than I can chew,

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Speaker 1: because then I realized that I also had tickets to

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Speaker 1: see Stone Tuble, Pilots Live and Soul Asylum with my

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Speaker 1: friend Matt Owensby.

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Speaker 2: You're really hitting all of the nineties music targets because

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Speaker 2: we went and saw Pulp a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 2: in the day.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but here's what I will argue Pulp. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if this is because they're British. They could reform

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Speaker 1: when they're ninety and still be really good at being Pulp, right,

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Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? It's kind of the

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Speaker 1: same way that I talked about three eleven where it's

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Speaker 1: like three eleven technically has not broken up. I think

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Speaker 1: so they just have kept performing as themselves. They've got

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Speaker 1: really good at playing their music, and it's all cohesive.

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Speaker 1: Every the same band members, the same band members, right,

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Speaker 1: the ones that have passed right, great at being that band,

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Speaker 1: Like still the same energy, still the same everything. The

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Speaker 1: problem is is when you try to go home again,

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Speaker 1: when you try to go and see some bands, and

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Speaker 1: there's trust me, there are so many nineties bands that

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Speaker 1: are back. They're doing their like Grandpa tours right now,

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Speaker 1: all of them. All of them are because you know,

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Speaker 1: our generation is now the age where we're like, we're

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Speaker 1: nostalgic for our music, and so now all these these

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Speaker 1: they're doing it like this. The craziest part is that

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Speaker 2: Also, the mix of those bands has to be pretty specific.

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Speaker 2: I think people are playing at real Lucy Goosey with

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Speaker 1: Yes, like in a way that's like y'all wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: fucked with each other in ninety four precisely, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of like it's disorienting because you're definitely like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that, you know, whatever, Stone Tuble Pilots

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Speaker 1: would have rocked with fucking I don't know, like Bikini

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Speaker 1: Kill whatever.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying those two bands are not touring together,

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Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. Yeah, it's a real mishmash.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of strange. It brings out a very interesting crowd,

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Speaker 1: as I figured out, like very interesting. I'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that in a second. Okay, the reason we went is

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Speaker 1: because of the band live, which is so weirdly embarrassing

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Speaker 1: for me. It shouldn't be, but it is. I loved

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Speaker 1: Stone Tuble Pilots like they were my favorite band in

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Speaker 1: like nineteen ninety three. I don't know how you felt

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Speaker 1: about them, but I first album Core when that shit

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Speaker 1: I am all in on this.

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Speaker 2: Band all lack a Rule. That's somebody that is a

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Speaker 1: That is an entire album of fucking bops, Like the

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Speaker 1: entire of cour is amazing.

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Speaker 2: Pretty much pretty much. I'll put it out when I'm

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Speaker 2: cooking sometimes, like it's not bad. Hell yeah. Although Scott

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Speaker 2: Wiland always freaked me out with his little slithery move.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, will listen, the slithering with the really low rise.

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Speaker 2: Pants, aggressive aggressive dick coming at me is not my thing.

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Speaker 1: Root slacks like those. Okay when he here, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to get I don't want to mess this up.

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Speaker 1: So if you're like a huge STP fan, like, don't

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Speaker 1: come at me. When they first came on the scene,

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Speaker 1: he was not the slithering dick root pants guy yet,

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Speaker 1: right am? I right? He was wearing like car heart jackets,

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Speaker 1: and he had like he was kind of like, you know,

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Speaker 1: that was dyed pink or orange or something. He looked

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Speaker 1: like a nineteen fifties Greazer and then The Drummer. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I was super into Stone Tubble Pilots, and I

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Speaker 1: of a lame alternative band.

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Speaker 2: Right, Oh, I kind of remember that that name.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the skater guys were like STP sucks, like

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Speaker 1: they're commercial or whatever. This was the nineties. In a

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Speaker 1: I would kill for a Stone Tumble Pilots, like we like.

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Speaker 1: But back then it's like, you know, they were like

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Speaker 2: We took them for granted, We took them for granted absolutely.

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Speaker 1: So the reason we went to the show my friend

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Speaker 1: Matt owens By and I we had a moment maybe

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Speaker 1: We used to work at video drum together and Matt

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Speaker 1: owens me is like one of my favorite people on Earth.

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Speaker 1: He's really really funny. Were around the same age, and

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Speaker 1: somehow we were talking we both like revealed to each

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Speaker 2: Now here's my thoughts on my brief thoughts on the

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Speaker 2: band live. Yeah, when I think of live the band,

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Speaker 2: I think of the song I Alone and things of

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Speaker 2: selling single. And now the way that people define the

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Speaker 2: band live is through Lightning Crashes, which is the most

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Speaker 2: sadzack fuck song of all time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is the song where the line her placenta

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Speaker 1: falls to the floor is the most memorable.

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Speaker 2: Right, Look, you can't say the nineties weren't at least

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Speaker 2: trying to be a little bit feminist.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, and like so this is okay to people

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Speaker 1: who don't understand because they like Again, the nineties were

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Speaker 1: very specific when it came to culture bands like what

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Speaker 1: was what Right? If you're like twenty five, you're like,

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Speaker 1: who the fuck cares? I don't even know who they are.

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Speaker 1: But so this band live very earnest, very earnest white

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Speaker 1: Sort of Eastern religious influences like Ponytails, Shirtlessness, writing songs

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Speaker 1: about placenta and like I don't know corporate culture, but

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Speaker 1: it was all like through the lens of like sensitivo male,

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Speaker 1: bare chested, soul bearing shit. Right when they popped off,

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Speaker 1: like when I first heard them in like ninety three

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Speaker 1: to say it, like way too corny, way too earnest,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I had already been lost to heavy metal by

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Speaker 2: that point. They were not doing enough for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was watching gg Allen videos with my friend

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Speaker 1: Jesse Smith in his bedroom after school. There was no

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Speaker 1: I like this bad live. Have you heard the song

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Speaker 1: Lightning Crashes about the Placenta like love? I secretly love it?

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Speaker 1: And he would have been like, get out of the

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Speaker 1: punk rock club, Like, you're not allowed to listen to

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Speaker 2: You cannot come over and watch Faces of Death this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you cannot watch Faces of Death. Yeah, take off

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Speaker 1: that Operation Ivy T shirt. Get the fuck out of

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Speaker 1: my house. So, but here's the thing, I secretly loved it.

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Speaker 1: Because again, I was kind of like a secret romantic

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Speaker 1: sensitivo watching Untamed Heart, right, so I was like, this

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Speaker 1: is a part of me that can never be revealed ever,

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Speaker 1: Like my friends are going to think I'm blame if

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Speaker 1: I like Live, and I don't even feel like apologizing

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Speaker 1: to Live. I feel like they knew that about themselves, right, Okay.

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Speaker 2: They were literally just doing their thing in retrospect, they

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Speaker 2: were just doing their thing without any consideration for what

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Speaker 2: saying about They didn't care. I mean, they genuinely were.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to take it at its at face value,

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Speaker 2: they were pretty punk rock in that regard in terms

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Speaker 2: of not caring what people thought about the music they made.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely they did not care. And let me put

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Speaker 1: this in to better perspective for some of y'all. Early

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Speaker 1: days of my space, for some reason, I came across

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Speaker 1: one of the band member's profiles on MySpace. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: I just stumbled across it, right, And then I looked

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Speaker 1: at the at the MySpace page for this band member.

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Speaker 2: They are allegedly the pathway to death. If you sign

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I one hundred percent agree with you, because Stone

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Speaker 2: Scott Wiland had a singular fucking voice. Same with Alice

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Speaker 2: it could be Celine Dion. It could be fucking Stone

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Speaker 1: I wanted him to be that like stupid, alternative, sensitive

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Speaker 2: comes for us all like oh.

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00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: Wait, you're not shirtless again, Like, you're not shirtless? Huh,

431
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: only the lead singer three eleven can be shirtless.

432
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: This is the joy to me of these Combo anniversary

433
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: concerts is you're definitely it is a humbling experience for

434
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: all involved. I will say it has to be a

435
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 2: humbling experience for all involved.

436
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: Oh me too, me too. I mean you think I'm

437
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm alone, Like I'm like looking from some like elevator.

438
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: Like I was like, I had earplugs in, I had

439
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: a personal and I had a personal fan at a

440
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: rock concert. I was like, what am I at Wimbledon?

441
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: What am I like seventy five years old? Like it

442
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: was so like I was an old woman watching this

443
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: old band that was good, you know, performing the jam good.

444
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: So like that's the thing is that like live slightly

445
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: better because of the lead singer being original. I mean,

446
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: let me tell you right now, lightning crashes comes on.

447
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: The whole fucking place is lit. Everyone is singing her

448
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: plas sense of falls to the war. I was like,

449
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: this is fucking insane that this is a stadium chant

450
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: this line. I'll never get over it.

451
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: Also, that is such a fucking problem if you're placenta

452
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: falls on the floor. Oh my god, they know more,

453
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: they more about this. Ed, that's a fucking problem. Your

454
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: placenta should not be falling to the floor.

455
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: The couple that were straddling each other peels the side leg,

456
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: comes off the lap. They throw their fucking sixteen dollars

457
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: beers in the air, and they scream. Her placenta falls

458
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: to the floor. I was like, this is so fucked up.

459
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't even really know what you got.

460
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: You gotta catch the placenta, guys. I don't know if

461
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: any doctors are listening to this, but please catch it.

462
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: Don't listen to the fucking live catch that placenta. Come on,

463
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: don't do people like that. Some people want to eat

464
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: it or turn it into like blood pills or something.

465
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. All this is to say, I

466
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: I really do not think you can go home again.

467
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: I feel like, even in the best case scenario, you've

468
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: got like the original lead singer of a band, like,

469
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 1: it's just you can't can't go home again. There's too

470
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: many feelings. You know. Three eleven is about as close

471
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: to home as I will ever get. And even then

472
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: I was questioning whether or not the lead singer was

473
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: taking coloidial silver like it's still you know, it's still

474
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: like not entirely you know, the way that it was

475
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: when you were kids. So that's just my story this

476
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: week is to not see bands that you used to

477
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: like from thirty forty years ago, because unless you're prepared

478
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: to have a disorienting experience, is all I'm saying.

479
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: I'm all about it. I saw a clip of the

480
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: New Kids on the Block performing and even the commenter

481
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: was like, yo, they've been on their knees a long time,

482
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: huffed and puffett, like do they have a doctor on standby? Like,

483
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: you cannot go back. You're not seeing the band that

484
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: you fell in love with. You're seeing a version of

485
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: the band that you fell in love with. But you've

486
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: all been fucked up by life. You've all gone through

487
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: some shit.

488
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta say, I think the only way that

489
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: I would go is if again the vibe was very similar,

490
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: most if not all, original members are present, and they

491
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: haven't recorded new songs because who wants to hear the

492
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: new song? Oh my god?

493
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of you can't go home again.

494
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: Speaking of the nineties, let's get into our bugging movies.

495
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: Do oh no? I love this theme so much.

496
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: You have to say it because you came up with

497
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: the name. Of course, the.

498
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: Word theme this week is giant leather medallions, slam Poets

499
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: and thou. It's New York City in the nineteen nineties.

500
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm gonna have to really lan on you

501
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 1: this week because I didn't go to New York for

502
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: the first time until like ninety I want to say,

503
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: it was like ninety eight or maybe ninety nine. You

504
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: were in New York much.

505
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: Earlier than that, right, Oh yeah, yeah, I mean visiting

506
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: family from the who still lived there by the time,

507
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: from the time I was born, and then on my

508
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: own going to the city when I was like twelve thirteen.

509
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: So so tell me about Yeah, tell me about New

510
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: York and like the early to mid nineties, what.

511
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: Was it like. I had a real especially watching your film,

512
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: I had a real fondness for what it used to

513
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: look like because I kept seeing these kind of things

514
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: that I never thought would disappear from New York that

515
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: are now gone, like the gaseeteria and like, you know,

516
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: things like that that I just had a real fondness for.

517
00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: But it was like a really interesting combination of grind me,

518
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: scary and exhilarating. So there was none of this that

519
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: we have now. Obviously, now it's very bike lanes and

520
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: it's trying to be a different kind of city, a

521
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: more accommodating city. My experience, and again do not get

522
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: into my mensions or email if you had a different experience,

523
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: but my experience of New York City in the nineties

524
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: is that you could get fucked up, but if you

525
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: just paid attention and went to where you were going,

526
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: you'd be fine.

527
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: Okay.

528
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: So it was very like I wasn't a club kid,

529
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: so to speak, but I did go out and dance

530
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 2: when I was way too young to be in these clubs.

531
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: I went to concerts in the city. I would just

532
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: go and walk around the village. I just went. I

533
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: went to shop. You know, I couldn't find you know,

534
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: there's a vintage everything everywhere now, but back in the

535
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: day that wasn't the case. So I would go and

536
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: shop and buy like my pants and my you know,

537
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: like cool old vintage outfits.

538
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: And just it was just a.

539
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: Dream from like again, these already grimy little stores. Nothing

540
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: that was beautiful I would go to see. I would

541
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: go to Todd Oldham's store. I loved Todd Oldham so

542
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: fucking much, and I would go to his store and

543
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: all I could afford was a tank top. But I

544
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: would just go just to be around these clothes that

545
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: I was seeing in magazines and on TV, and just

546
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: to like see up close what it looked like and

547
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: felt like, yeah, it was very, very like everyone's smoking cigarettes.

548
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: Very again because of the scene that I was interested in.

549
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: That was my experience of it. And then I go

550
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: see my family in Harlem and it was like a

551
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: totally different experience and great in its own way, where

552
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: it was just you know, like people out on the

553
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: streets like playing games and like there wasn't as much

554
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: of a It didn't. Again from my child mind, I

555
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: wasn't paying attention to this, but I didn't feel like

556
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: there was as much of like a police presence or

557
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: someone always waiting to tell you to stop doing something.

558
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, there would just be like.

559
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: People in the streets just party it and like it

560
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: was just it was a party. It was a party.

561
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: It was fun. There was always something interesting to discover,

562
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: there was always something interesting to actually do, and it

563
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: was cool. It was a cool thing for me to

564
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: be able to go to in my mind, one of

565
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: the best cities in the world, definitely the best city

566
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 2: in America and just explore, like you could just explore.

567
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to say, like, I'm so jealous really

568
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,479
Speaker 1: of anybody that kind of grew up in New York,

569
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: especially around this era, like the late eighties early to

570
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: mid nineties, because I have had such like, you know,

571
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: there's such a mythology around it, especially like Downtown with

572
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: artists and things like that, or just even like generally,

573
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: like I mean, I think that in my mind, it

574
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: was like the eighties was about like bosk yocht and

575
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: hip hop right, which is amazing, and then the nineties

576
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: felt a lot of like, yeah, I think it was

577
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: informed by movies like my movie This Week of like

578
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: the Limelight or whatever, like the whole like wig Stock

579
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: kind of like it was like basically basically like gay

580
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: club scene. And then it's like, yeah, so you have

581
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: like all like as an outsider, you're like, oh my god,

582
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: New York is awesome because it's like Jim Jarmish meets

583
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: After Hours meets you know, Drag meets RuPaul meets everything.

584
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: So you're like and I didn't get there until basically

585
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: in d sleeves like it the sleeves is when I

586
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: was in New York and I and different New York. Yeah,

587
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: totally different New York. Like didn't feel as positive, I

588
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: gotta be honest. You know the fashion that was way different.

589
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 4: You know.

590
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: Well that's the other thing is like it was so

591
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: it was such a it felt like such a collaborative

592
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: time where you could just meet people and do shit together.

593
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: And again, my my experience is different in so many

594
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 2: ways than other people's experience and limited in so many

595
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: other ways and personal because of who I am. But

596
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: what I was interested in was not I mean, you

597
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: could access the hip hop scene. It wasn't my primary

598
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 2: interest back then, but it was everywhere, and it didn't

599
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: I think that's the feeling that I missed the most

600
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: about that time of New York is that it didn't

601
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: feel as restrictive as it does now. Like everyone was

602
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: doing everything all the time. It wasn't weird to see

603
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: like club kids go to a hip hop show, or

604
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: it wasn't normal. It wasn't like an everyday experience, but

605
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: it wasn't weird to see this mix of people getting

606
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: together at some event.

607
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah. I think it's so great that

608
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: you've experienced that I wish I had instead. I was

609
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: in the Deep South like looking at you know, movies

610
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: and TV shows and MTV and just wanting to be

611
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: there so badly. But I you know, what's also fairly

612
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: obvious about these two movies that we picked this week

613
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: is that Parker in both.

614
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 2: As is Leeb Schreiber.

615
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, as is Leev Schreiber. Forgot about that too.

616
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: They to me were I mean, because I think between

617
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: both of these movies we have like there's so many

618
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: like nineties character actors between them, especially with your movie

619
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: that I really began. I mean, we just did an

620
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: intro about wanting to go home again and being like,

621
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: actually no, but it was like very Your movie particularly

622
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: just made me miss the nineties, like the nineties independent

623
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: film scene, you know, all of these actors that appear

624
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: in your film and in my film. I just was

625
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: like I told myself that, I was like, you know,

626
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: if I ever made a movie, which I kind of

627
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: want to, but if I if I did make a movie,

628
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: I would totally want it to look like your movie.

629
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

630
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 2: It's a really it's something I watch regularly It's definitely

631
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: in a top ten for me. And it's just it's

632
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: a simple premise that's so well acted that by the

633
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: time you get to the end and you see all

634
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: these the culmination of this day that they're having together,

635
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: it just hits on several different levels. But it's just

636
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: really beautiful to see elements of the nineties at work

637
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: that I think lended themselves to the story. And I'll

638
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: talk about that more when I talk about the film,

639
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: but it was really it made me feel or remember

640
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: that what it felt like to kind of be around

641
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: my own family in the nineties. Not in this specific way,

642
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's really evocative of a time.

643
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like both these movies feel very

644
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: like I don't want to use this isn't pejorative, but handmade,

645
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: but like, you know, in that way, in that independent way.

646
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: It feels like now technology is so so far advanced

647
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: and there's just so many iteration to filmmaking that have

648
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: happened since this era that it does feel like this

649
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: time and place where you're like you can never go

650
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: back to because I'm just like people making like fucking

651
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: independent movies for no money in New York City, like

652
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: getting their friends together to like put on a show

653
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: and you know that kind of stuff. I don't know.

654
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: It just felt really good to watch these movies this week.

655
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: And I can't wait to talk about your movie. I

656
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: haven't literally haven't seen it since the nineties, and I

657
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: can't wait to discuss it. And I know you're going first.

658
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 2: So really well, I watched my movie usually around Thanksgiving

659
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: almost every year, at least every other year. But I

660
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: loved it. Oh. I love going back to it.

661
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: Anytime I get a chance to. Yeah.

662
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 2: My movie was released in nineteen ninety seven. It was

663
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 2: written and directed by Greg Mottola. My movie is The

664
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: Day Trippers.

665
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: Couldn't this be a note from a barracuda who was

666
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: having an affavor with a married man? So what should

667
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: I do?

668
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: I suggest that we drive you into this city and

669
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: you talk to him face to face. So sentenced synopsis.

670
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: After discovering a love letter in her husband's belongings, a

671
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: wife in denial agrees to a post Thanksgiving excursion with

672
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: her entire family to find out whether or not he's cheating.

673
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, which again, such a good premise. Greg Mattola.

674
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: This was his first feature film. His future debut, and

675
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: he's directed things like super Bad and Adventureland. He's also

676
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: directed a lot of television, including Arrested Development, and he

677
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: was born and raised in Long Island, where the Malones,

678
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: the family in this film, lives, so it feels very

679
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 2: personal to him, if not his family, then at least

680
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: the setting of Long Island. And it's another all in

681
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: one Day romp. I love an all in one day film,

682
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: but it's just like a beautiful look at how family,

683
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: even when they're trying their best, bring all of their

684
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: own baggage to every interaction and are often deeply unhelpful.

685
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: But I love this movie. I love how we learn

686
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: about out the family members by the people they meet

687
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 2: and interact with in New York City. Like they meet

688
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: this very complicated father and son duo, these two sisters

689
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 2: who are trying to clean out their dead mother's apartment,

690
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: and this kind of desperate drunk woman at a party,

691
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 2: and all of these people are mirroring certain aspects of

692
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: our characters as we go through, which isn't really clear

693
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: until maybe the end of the film. But I think again,

694
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 2: a very smart and interesting way to showcase not just

695
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: what this family might look like to an outsider. But

696
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: how you can just meet someone in New York, like

697
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: you just meet a weirdo and then they're part of

698
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: your day and part of your life, right, And I

699
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: love that. And it's just so organic how it happens

700
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: in the story, But that feels very organic to how

701
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 2: it often happens in life.

702
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I love it.

703
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: So the day in question, and the main question of

704
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: the day is what is this day going to do

705
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 2: to them as a family. The entire Malone family piles

706
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: into a station wagon where they can't turn on the

707
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: heat because it makes the car clank again, metaphors everywhere,

708
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: but they can't turn on the heat, so they're all

709
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: freezing in this car, old wood panel station wagon on

710
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 2: the way to New York City, and they are looking

711
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 2: for Lewis, who is Eliza's husband. He works for a publisher,

712
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: and the kind of the beats of the day are

713
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: kind of funny to me because they go to the

714
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: publisher where he works, and then they find some photos

715
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: that leads them to a business in the background where

716
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: they go and try to look for him, and then

717
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: they decide they're going to find him later at a

718
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: book party. So we'll get into that, but the Malone

719
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: family has to be discussed as individuals before we.

720
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: Talk about them together.

721
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: So we have Eliza Eliza Demico, and again she's Lewis's wife,

722
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: and she seems pretty happy with her life. She's, you know,

723
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: living in that split level, you know, suburban house in

724
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 2: Long Island, just had Thanksgiving with her family. Seems pretty

725
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: happy with her life. And then she finds a love

726
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: letter to her husband from the mysterious Sandy next to

727
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 2: their dresser the day after Thanksgiving, and we watch her

728
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: kind of evolve from being in full denial to kind

729
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: of riding the wave of like her family's emotional response,

730
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: and then we kind of find her. We kind of

731
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: eventually get to her finding her own voice. And Eliza's

732
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: played by Hope Davis, who is just such a phenomenal

733
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 2: actress in general, but was so good in this role

734
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: because you can believe how you could feel from her

735
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: so much, how she wanted to believe in trust her

736
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 2: husband and believe in something good, and that really anchors

737
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 2: the rest of this day because her family is fucking wild.

738
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: So I feel like you needed her sincerity and like

739
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: her little porcelain and cute little face to kind of

740
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: anchor the rest of this family, and also really because

741
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: you know, we're talking about or looking at a family

742
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: where you're not quite sure how they all fit together.

743
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: But she really was like an anchor for me as

744
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: I started watching it more and more over time. I

745
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: wasn't as interested in her when I first watched it,

746
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: but then really became very interested in that character. Then

747
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: you have Lewis Demiko again. Her husband works in New

748
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: York City for a publisher, possibly cheating, definitely dubious, but

749
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 2: he also really loves his wife. So there's a part

750
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 2: in the beginning where he's standing at the kitchen table

751
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: and he's about to leave for work, and he's just like,

752
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm just so tired, and it's not said

753
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: with any animosity, it's not said with any curiosity. But

754
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: later it's clear that he's tired of his double life,

755
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: and that moment is just it's a very small, tender

756
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 2: moment between a husband and a wife where he's like, Oh,

757
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: I'm just so tired, Let's go out for dinner tomorrow night, Like,

758
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: let's But then it becomes clear by the end of

759
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: the movie what he's tired of and Lewis. Demiko is

760
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: played by Stanley Tucci. Everyone loves Stanley Tucci, but it's

761
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: incredible to remember the back again. Back in the day

762
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: he was doing indie film. He was a small actor,

763
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 2: He was a sidekick. He wasn't the main, main dude

764
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: that we've watched him evolved into being. Then we have

765
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: Joe Malone and Joe is Eliza's sister played by Parker Posey,

766
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 2: and Joe is a college student in Michigan. She's home

767
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: for the holiday with her boyfriend Carl, and Joe is

768
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: basically like a parallel universe party girl, so she's still

769
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: wild and fun and no one in her family takes

770
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: her seriously, so she doesn't take herself seriously around them.

771
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: But her evolution in this day is really interesting to

772
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: me because it kind of has her looking at her

773
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: choices and you can see the exterior of how she's

774
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: trying to express herself in the world. But throughout the

775
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 2: day it becomes clear that she's learning how to truly

776
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: express herself and her needs right from like an interior place.

777
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: But she's definitely like an all universe party girl, like hilarious,

778
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: hilarious lines so dead. Pam Parker Posy is wonderful in

779
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 2: this film.

780
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's best.

781
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: Then we have Carl Carl petrovit by Liev Schreiber, and

782
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: Carl is a pretentious twat hiding in the body of

783
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 2: a construction worker. He buys herbal teas for a family

784
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: that clearly only drinks Dunkin donut light and sweet coffee.

785
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 2: He cannot stop talking about his clearly awful novel, which

786
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: is an allegory for the political experience that features a

787
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: man with a dog's head. He thinks aristocracy, he thinks

788
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 2: that aristocracy should be the order of the day, and

789
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: he loves imperialist And he's just up his own ass,

790
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: like he just talks like someone who is not listening

791
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: to anyone he's talking to. He just can't wait to

792
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 2: express his own ideas. He's very selfish. But again, throughout

793
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: the day we watch him get kind of turned around

794
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: when he meets someone who's actually smart enough to counter

795
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: what he's saying and who actually can put him on

796
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: his back foot a little bit.

797
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just the type of guy you would meet

798
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: in college. And I don't know if it's because we

799
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: just literally talked about this type of guy in the intro.

800
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: I actually felt got it bad for him this time around,

801
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: Like I don't know why. I was like, why do

802
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Carl? I feel like he's he

803
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: wants so badly for people to think he's smart, yeah,

804
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: you know, and that he's cultured and that he has

805
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: principles and all this stuff. But he's just like young

806
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: and stupid and like sort of like you know, doesn't

807
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: understand that there's like a time and place for his bullshit.

808
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: You know. I just feel kind of bad for him

809
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, I don't know, like I

810
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: thought it was bad for him. I get it. Like

811
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: especially there's a part where he runs into one of

812
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: his old professors who was like his idol, right, and

813
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: he sees him at a party and the guy's leaving,

814
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: and so he chases him, you know, down the stairs

815
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: and into a taxi and was basically like you know, professor, like,

816
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: oh my god. He's like I can't believe he's here.

817
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: And the guy like looks at him and is like, oh,

818
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: fuck this shit, and just like like takes off in

819
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: the taxi, doesn't even say hi to him, and he

820
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: has this moment where he's just feeling like Wow, Like

821
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: there's there's my mentor rejecting me and maybe it's because

822
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm annoying or whatever the story. He doesn't know.

823
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 2: How to calm down, Like he doesn't trust that people

824
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: in time realize how smart he is and he doesn't

825
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: have to hit them over the head with all of

826
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: his ideas immediately.

827
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: Well, and like that's the thing too about him in

828
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: the Parker Posey relationship, right, because you're right, I think

829
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: in your assessment that she's looking for more, like she's

830
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: in college. Does she really is she just going to

831
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: settle down with this guy and get married and this

832
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, or does she want more from life?

833
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: Does she want to like talk to other people? Does

834
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: she want to like explore herself and figure out what

835
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: she likes? And it's hard because he's his character is

836
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: probably the worst person to be this time of your

837
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: life when you are figuring yourself out. The guy that's

838
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: him is going to be the anchor that drags you down,

839
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: right mm hmm.

840
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: The guy that's basically like I know everything about myself,

841
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 2: I know everything about you, I know everything about the world.

842
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: That is a stifling relationship.

843
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: Well, and like when you're so young, like that it's

844
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: fine to be both people, but you can't be together

845
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: at least right now. Come back together later in your

846
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: thirties and maybe you can work out, but like you're

847
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: both too young and need more experience that you can't

848
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: settle down.

849
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 2: Well, you also have and it's you know, interesting that

850
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: you have her her family's perspective, because her mother is

851
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: basically like, yeah, hold on.

852
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: To this guy.

853
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: This is the best you're ever gonna do. Right, So

854
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: she's got this weird narrative that she's clearly trying to

855
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: rail against in her life and not turn into her

856
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 2: parents and not make decisions that her mother would make.

857
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: Right, But it's.

858
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: Such a strong message for her that that's kind of

859
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 2: how you end up with this kind of person. And

860
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: to begin with, if you're like, yeah, he's not going

861
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: to challenge me too much and he's kind of you know, solid,

862
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 2: and he loves me more than I love him or whatever, Like,

863
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: it's just kind of a strange thing to see play

864
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: out throughout the day. Is that be like, like what

865
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: is she resisting? Is she resisting her own ideas about

866
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: Carl or her eyes being open to who he really is,

867
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 2: or she finally hearing a message from within herself about

868
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 2: what she needs. It's just it's very interesting to see Feather.

869
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: Is definitely worry that she's going to be party girl, right,

870
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: that she's going to be like free wheeling and putting

871
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: on you know, illegal raves, but you know, totally, I

872
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: don't know in a way. Yeah, I think the biggest

873
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: lesson that I learned from this rewatch is the relationship

874
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: between the mother and the daughters, and also the daughters

875
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: being like they're both searching.

876
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, And the rest of the the rest

877
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: of the cast is incredible as well. We have Jim

878
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: Malone the dad, and let me tell you, let me

879
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: go on record by saying, Jim Malone is the only

880
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 2: dad I give a shit about in life or in film.

881
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: I love him. I love him.

882
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: He's it. He is the perfect dad model to me.

883
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 2: He's very stoic and supportive. He's really loving in his

884
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 2: own way, and the way he looks at Carl when

885
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: he's rattling on about his novel is fucking hilarious. This

886
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: is a very like middle class guy who's just like,

887
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: what the fuck I can't listen to this Every Thanksgiving

888
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: like he's secretly praying that Joe gets rid of this

889
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: stud but he's nice enough to not meddle in the

890
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: way that his wife would. He won't ever say that

891
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: to Joe's face, but he's just like, you've got to

892
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: be fucking kidding me about every aspect of his life.

893
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: There is nothing more true, by the way than this.

894
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: This happens in the very beginning of the film. Basically

895
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: like Joe and Carl are you know, still sleeping, and

896
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: the pairs are up early and the fucking and Rita

897
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: begins to crush coffee beans and that handheld brawn coffee

898
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: grinder that my parents literally own to this day. They

899
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: own the press button coffee grinder makes the most shrill,

900
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: annoying noise in the morning. And then Jim running the vacuum,

901
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: He's like, should we get them up? It's like that,

902
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: you know.

903
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,959
Speaker 2: The best part of that is like they're rattling around

904
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 2: doing all this, but they're shouting at each other over the.

905
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: It is happening literally right now in the house that

906
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: I sit, like eight thirty in the morning. My mom's

907
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: grinding beans, my dad's vacuuming, and I'm like in their

908
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: guest bedroom, like, oh my god, what the fuck, and

909
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: they're screaming at each other over the noise.

910
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: It's too much, and they're just oblivious because they're like,

911
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: we've been living like this for fifty years. The fucking

912
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: problem exactly what we do every morning for fifty years.

913
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: They don't give a shit. And even if they know

914
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: that they're annoying you, they're like, well, you should be

915
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: awake anyway. Like parents do not fucking care you're in

916
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 2: their house. They are gonna be making all the noise possible.

917
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, They're like, ay, thirty, you might as well

918
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: be waking up at four pm.

919
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 3: Shit.

920
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 2: I love it so much, and it's also such a

921
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 2: great indication of what their relationship is like as a

922
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: married couple and his parents. But it is just so

923
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: fucking funny, and they do like Jim is not a

924
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: wilting flower. He just knows when to talk, like he

925
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: just he's pays attention and he has a good balance,

926
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 2: I think with his wife. Read Him Alone played by

927
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: the late Great Ann Mayor at Rest in Peace, Queen Yes,

928
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: who is a loud, battering ram of a woman who

929
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 2: simply does not want to believe that Lewis would do

930
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: this to her daughter, and she is a nosy fuck.

931
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: Like they visit his office and he's not there, and

932
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: she's like, let's go through his Like she's the perfect

933
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 2: mix of the kind of person you want on your

934
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: side for this kind of thing, and then she's just

935
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 2: way too nosy for her own good.

936
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: Oh man, I feel like there have been times in

937
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: my life where I've taken the investigative charge on something

938
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: like this, and I was really feeling her this time.

939
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: I was like, I have been there. I've been obsessed

940
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: with finding like a stack of drug store printed photographs

941
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: in a desk drawer and be like, what is this?

942
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: Who's in the background of this?

943
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 2: It is incredible because she's she turns into Matlock. She's like,

944
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 2: all right, there's here. We have a photo, a printed photo.

945
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 2: Look in the background of the photo to see the

946
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: name of this business. Let's go to the fucking Yellow

947
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: Pages to find the address for this business. And then

948
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: we're going there to find this blue door that he's

949
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 2: standing in front of.

950
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like because she's in such protection mode,

951
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: like she wants to protect her daughters, and she's like,

952
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: we're gonna fight out off the scumbags cheating on you, right,

953
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: fucking now, I do it, Tuta Hill. There is no

954
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: demureness when it comes to busting a cheater, and I

955
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: love it. I was like in a moment, going like, Yo,

956
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: that's me, huh do that? I'd done that?

957
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 2: I do full Maury Povich, full Maury Povich. And there's

958
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: this hilarious scene where they're chasing Lewis's cab and Jim

959
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: stops at a light at a yellow light instead of

960
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 2: going through it, and she is so pissed off and

961
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: she gets out of the car and starts running after

962
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 2: the cab and she falls down, and that's how we

963
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 2: meet this first iteration of like the father and son

964
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: that you know they kind of have lunch with. But

965
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: she's just so fucking funny. And at the start of

966
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: the movie you feel bad for her because you're like,

967
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 2: all right, her children don't take her seriously. They kind

968
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 2: of see her as like this purely meddling factor in

969
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: their lives. But by the end of the movie, she

970
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: shows an entirely different side of herself that makes you

971
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: wonder if you should feel pity for her at all.

972
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fine line, right, It's very very interesting.

973
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: So I love her though I think she and Jim together.

974
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: Rita and Jim are a great couple.

975
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

976
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: I've known this this iteration of people in my own life,

977
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: and Anne Mirror just fucking nailed it. She's just so

978
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 2: compelling and so good to watch. And we have kind

979
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 2: of these other, you know, side characters that are also

980
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 2: really great, like Eddie Massler played by the hot Campbell Scott,

981
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: and he's a writer and he first meets Eliza at

982
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: the publisher, but then later at the book party he

983
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: meets Joe, and Joe's who he really like hits it

984
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 2: off with, and I just I love his character in

985
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 2: this movie. He's just like unapologetic. The energy is incredible, yeah,

986
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: but damn smart. He's He's like the leveled up version

987
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 2: of Carl in every possible way.

988
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And the fact that they, you know, have

989
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: a heated discussion at one point is perfect for that.

990
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: It's wonderful. I love him in this and it's the

991
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 2: end you sparingly but perfect in this role.

992
00:56:59,680 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

993
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: I think he was also a producer on the film.

994
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: And then you have Libby, who's Sandy's roommate, the mysterious

995
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 2: Sandy from the letter and to me is like one

996
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 2: of the funniest people in this movie played by Marcia

997
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: kay Harden and we've all either met or been this

998
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: person at a party who's like desperate to get her

999
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 2: ex boyfriend's attention, but also desperate to prove she's moved

1000
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: on but absolutely has not moved on, like clutching onto

1001
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: a stranger and being like, don't leave me, like you're

1002
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 2: with me the whole night. Yeah, she has one of

1003
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: the funniest fucking lines in this movie because she is

1004
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: just talking to Eliza. Liza's kind of standing there like

1005
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 2: looking for her husband, and Libby is just chatting. And

1006
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: at one point she goes the fact that this is

1007
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: the first time I'm seeing him in a year, two

1008
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: months and nineteen days is probably why I'm drinking more

1009
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: gin and Tonics than a boat full of wasps at

1010
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: a hyaenas Port regatta. She's just so fucking funny. There

1011
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 2: are so many good quotes in this film, but Libby

1012
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: is hilarious. I love her as this again, this strange

1013
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 2: side character that you're meeting that's really kind of maybe

1014
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: energy wise, is a little more amped up than Eliza,

1015
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 2: but is doing the same thing in a very different way,

1016
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: which is like, I'm looking for this man who does

1017
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: not want anything to do with me, and I'll leave it.

1018
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: You have to watch the movie if you want to

1019
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: figure out if he's cheating, what's going on? Do they

1020
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 2: catch up with him in the end. It is beautiful.

1021
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: I think what happens really sends the movie into like

1022
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 2: the energy of the movie into a totally different space

1023
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: in a good way. But I love it. There's a

1024
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 2: point where they're just listening to some in the car

1025
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 2: when they're driving around talking. At one point, Eliza says like, well,

1026
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: maybe they're desperate, maybe she's desperately in love with him,

1027
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: and Rita just goes, Oh, don't be ridiculous, nobody's desperately

1028
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 2: in love. Like the dialogue of this film is so

1029
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: crisp and so exciting and so wonderful and so real. Yeah,

1030
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: I just I love it. I absolutely love this movie

1031
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: and it is a much must watch. If not at Thanksgiving,

1032
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: then watch it right now or anytime you want to

1033
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: remember what it's like to be stuck in a wood

1034
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: paneled car with your family.

1035
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, it's so good, so good, probably better than

1036
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: I remember, to be honest, I'm so glad I got

1037
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: to watch it again. Oh man, it's it's a real gem.

1038
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: So very nineties. You can you can only find Lewis

1039
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 2: in this nineties way back like that was how you

1040
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: found people, right it was. There were no no Internet trails.

1041
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 2: You had to put in the fucking footwork and her

1042
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 2: whole the fact that her whole family decides to go

1043
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: is just priceless.

1044
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wonderful. And the lip color in this movie

1045
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: is incredible. I wrote about it on my letterbox review.

1046
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: I was like, everybody's wearing incredible lip.

1047
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: Color, just mauve as far as like like just a

1048
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: very dark matt Time.

1049
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: Okay, what do your movies is?

1050
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: Very nineties?

1051
00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: Oh god? Maybe the nineties movie one of the absolute

1052
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: perfect representations of nineties, I believe.

1053
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 4: So.

1054
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: My movie is from nineteen ninety five. It was written

1055
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: by Harry Burkmeyer and Daisy von Schirler Mayor. It was

1056
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: directed by Daisy von Schirler Mayer, and it's called Party Girl.

1057
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: Do you what we do?

1058
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: Huh?

1059
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 2: I don't have a job.

1060
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm the loser.

1061
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: Shoot me.

1062
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: Okay, So your movie came out after my movie, right, yeah?

1063
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: Because as we talked about Parker Posi and le F

1064
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,919
Speaker 1: Schreiber or in both of our movies this week. This

1065
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but this was my big

1066
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: introduction to Parker POSI absolutely, Okay, I'd be willing to

1067
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: say maybe maybe waiting for Guffman being like a close second,

1068
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: but this is the movie that really defined her for

1069
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: me and for maybe America and beyond certainly to find

1070
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: her in the nineties, like this was kind of like

1071
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: what I think, Well, I thought Parker Posey was this person,

1072
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: and maybe in ways she kind of was. And if

1073
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: you get the Blu ray of this movie, which came

1074
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: out fairly recently, because this movie was actually kind of

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Speaker 1: unavailable for many years, it was really hard to see

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01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: and maybe like a year or two ago. Jonathan Hertzberg,

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Speaker 1: who runs this Blu ray label called fun City Editions,

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Speaker 1: we've worked with him before. We did Married to the Mob,

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01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: Danielle and I did. We did the commentary track for

1080
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 1: his release of that. But he released this on Blu

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01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: Ray and did interviews with Daisy with Parker and like, yeah,

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01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: I think Parker was basically like, oh yeah, this was

1083
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: like my life pretty much in the nineties, so and

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01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: I just assumed this was her because of how iconic.

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01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: She is a part of girl. But I love this

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01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: movie so much because there's so many I mean, first

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01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: of all, it's iconic for so many reasons, not just fashion,

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01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: not just music. You know. I feel like, and maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm out on a lib here, let me know your thoughts, Danielle,

1090
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: but like, I feel like this movie ushered in the

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Speaker 1: concept of the alternative librarian.

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01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Okay, absolutely, it was all fucking Laura Ashley dresses

1093
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 2: and Jane Austen dreams prior to this.

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01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: I think, yes, I agree. I was like, oh, it's

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01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: like a librarian with like pink.

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01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 2: Hair and piercings and fun outfits, and like, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good glad we're aligning on that, because I was like,

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01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's actually true, but from my mind,

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01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: I was like, this is when I a librarian became cool.

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01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: But this, this story essentially is you know, like a

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01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: coming of age story about a young woman living in

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01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: New York. But it's also a gay story. It's an

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01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: immigrant story, I mean, less importantly, it's a story about DJs,

1104
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: which I appreciate, but like, you know, the scene of

1105
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: like nightclubs and parties and dance music and you know,

1106
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: and like I said, I think there were people who

1107
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: made this movie, who appear to this movie who were

1108
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: very much they were inherent to the scene that they

1109
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: were around in the film. So they, you know, Parker

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01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: Posey and Daisy Uh the director talk about like going

1111
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: to these clubs. They would go to drag shows, they

1112
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: would go to gay bars and go dancing to club music.

1113
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: You know, Parker Posey, like the whole thing about the

1114
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: clothes in this film, A lot of it was her

1115
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: own wardrobe, but also a lot of her clothes were

1116
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: borrowed from like friends and cool designers like Todd Oldham

1117
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: who you mentioned earlier. So it was very much like

1118
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: baked into the world that they were. The real people

1119
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: involved were already in the movie. Costs. I feel like

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01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: it costs like one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. It

1121
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: wasn't a huge production, and they shot it like roughly

1122
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: about two and a half weeks. But it's it's the

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Speaker 1: here's the wildest thing that I had read about it.

1124
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: So there's an article online on Dazed I guess you know,

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01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: the website days that talks about how Party Girl was

1126
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: apparently the first feature film to ever be broadcast online.

1127
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 2: Really.

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01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: Yes, Apparently in June of nineteen ninety five, there was

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01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: a guy who was kind of like an early Internet adopter,

1130
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: but he was like a tech journalist, and he offered

1131
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: to broadcast this movie, like to premiere the movie on

1132
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: this like very very early rudimentary like video conferencing software,

1133
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: like kind of like the prototype for zoom, I guess,

1134
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: And only a few hundred people got to watch it,

1135
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: and it was in like very bad broadcast quality because

1136
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: it was early days of the Internet. But yes, technically

1137
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: this movie was premiered online. The first one.

1138
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 2: That's wild.

1139
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: I know, it's like, what are the odds of that?

1140
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what would have been like to

1141
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: been one of those hundred people being like I'm watching

1142
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: this movie called Party Girl. I can't even see who's

1143
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: in it because the pixels are so fucking terrible. And

1144
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: I had to get on I had to kick my

1145
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: sister off of America Online so I could watch this film.

1146
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 2: I used up all of our Internet for the day.

1147
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 2: That used to be a thing where you only had

1148
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 2: a few hours a day. Yeah.

1149
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: Of course, the other thing that I found really fascinating

1150
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: about Party Girl, and I knew this from the I

1151
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: had actually interviewed Jonathan, the guy from Fun City Editions

1152
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,479
Speaker 1: in Atlanta when this movie came out, and he talked

1153
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: about doing the interviews with Daisy von Schuler. Mayer's the director, right,

1154
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 1: So basically this movie was very influenced or made in

1155
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: the spirit of like the classic screwball film. And when

1156
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: when I heard her say that, it immediately clicked because

1157
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: I feel like Mary, who's the lead character played by

1158
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: Parker Posey, She's a very screwball heroine to me, right,

1159
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: and this movie does feel like a screwball comedy. It's funny,

1160
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: there's like lots of characters and weird like kind of stories,

1161
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: and then you've got this like lovable but imperfect woman

1162
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: who was kind of, you know, running around town making

1163
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: a fool out of herself, but fool out of herself

1164
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: but then eventually figures it out.

1165
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 4: Right.

1166
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: That's a very screwball kind of concept. And then I

1167
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: heard Daisy speak about how her grandfather actually worked with

1168
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: Ernest Lubitch, who was a very prevalent screwball director of

1169
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: like the nineteen thirties and forties, and that her grandfather

1170
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: wrote to be or not to be with Arl Lombard

1171
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: and Jack Benny, which is one of my favorite screwball

1172
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 1: comedies of all time, so I know, so she has

1173
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: this direct tie to classic screwball rom coms. And then

1174
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: I guess now knowing that I see Party Girl as

1175
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: sort of something like that, like a screwball comedy, which.

1176
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really cool.

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01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: That's really cool. So uh, I won't give a one

1178
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: sense a synopsis because I just want to kind of

1179
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: quickly go through what the movie is about. So, this

1180
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: movie is about a young woman named Mary, who again

1181
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: is played by Perker Posy. She's living in New York City.

1182
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: She's throwing parties, she's wearing designer clothes. She's trapesing around

1183
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: town merrily with her gay best friend Derek, who is

1184
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: played by Anthony Desando, and her straight DJ friend Leo,

1185
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: who was played by Giermo Diaz, who, as you know,

1186
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: it's a huge crush of mine, Number one, my number

1187
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: one probably because of this movie, to be honest, and

1188
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: this is a gay man doesn't know who I am,

1189
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: doesn't like I, but I I know that he will

1190
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: not be in a relationship with me. But I'm just

1191
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: saying I.

1192
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 2: Had the crush returned to have a crush.

1193
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, that's what a crush is. It's never returned.

1194
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: What are you kidd me? Anyway, Just to let y'all know.

1195
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: I know he's gay, but I loved him since this movie,

1196
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: since I saw this movie. So Mary, at the beginning

1197
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:34,520
Speaker 1: of the film, she's arrested for basically organizing this underground

1198
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: rave and she's bailed out of jail by her aunt Judy.

1199
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: Because Mary's family is kind of m I A right,

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01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: I think the mom died.

1201
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 2: Or either all did. Yeah, the dad never was in

1202
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 2: the picture and the mom's dead. Judy is like, Judy's

1203
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 2: her godmother, so she's like like a tenuous connection and

1204
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 2: he kind of is only there because she's friends. She

1205
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 2: was friends with the mother. Yeah, but you're also kind

1206
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 2: of like, how were they friends? Because the whole movie

1207
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 2: she just kind of says like, your mother was a

1208
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 2: woman with no common sense. Yeah, I mean you're like,

1209
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: how were they friends? At what point in life were

1210
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 2: they friends? That's never really discussed, but it is always

1211
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 2: a curiosity of mine.

1212
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 1: Right. Well, you know, she's got to fulfill this god

1213
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 1: motherly obligation to watch after her her goddaughter. Yeah, and

1214
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: the director actually Daisy von Schuler Mayer's mom is who

1215
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: plays Judy.

1216
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 2: I love that.

1217
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's really cute. So here's the deal.

1218
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 1: So she gets bailed out by Judy, and Judy's like,

1219
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 1: all right, well, in order to repay your debt, you're

1220
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 1: going to have to take on a little job with

1221
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 1: me at the New York Public Library, because Judy is

1222
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 1: a librarian, right, And of course when she first shows up,

1223
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 1: Mary's like, fuck this shit. She doesn't take it very seriously.

1224
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: It absolutely infuriates Judy because Judy is obviously very concerned

1225
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: about her, like she is a woman of no common

1226
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: sense as well, and she has she's just parties all

1227
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 1: the time. She doesn't care about anything, and I'm the

1228
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: absolute opposite. I take great care and pride in my

1229
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: job as a librarian. So it's that dynamic. Right. At

1230
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: the same time, Mary, when she's you know, on her

1231
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: breaks at the library, she goes down to the street

1232
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 1: and she starts noticing this hot lebonese street vendor and

1233
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: his name is Mustafa, and she classically faithfully orders the

1234
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: same order every time she sees him, which is a

1235
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: falafel with hot sauce, a side order of Baba Ganish

1236
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: and a Seltzer all the time, every time, So I

1237
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: think you know what's gonna happen between the two of them.

1238
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 1: They eventually get together. He wants to be a teacher.

1239
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: She finds that this out about him, so here's the thing.

1240
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: At the same time, she's got this boyfriend technically, I mean,

1241
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 1: who knows with her out there maybe broken up sort of.

1242
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: He's a real hot head. His name is Nigel and

1243
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:11,879
Speaker 1: he's played by Leev Schreiber. He has a British accent

1244
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: in this film. Yeah, he kind of is like a

1245
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: British streep thug. He wears like a bomber jacket, like

1246
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 1: a little flight jacket, and he's like a bouncer right,

1247
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 1: And she's just like, God, this guy is such a meathead.

1248
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: I want something different. I want I want to I

1249
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: want a different life from this guy. Even though she

1250
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: still like is in her world. Like she's like she

1251
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: she knows she wants or maybe needs to move on,

1252
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 1: but she's just too comfortable with the way she is. Right,

1253
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: she likes what she's doing.

1254
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 2: She does actually say to him like you are lowering

1255
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 2: my word worth, like my value. She's like, I can't

1256
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 2: do this because you're lowering my worth. It's so great

1257
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: for her to notice that, and she does that before

1258
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 2: she really makes it serious with Mustapha. She just kind

1259
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 2: of knows that, like, I don't know what's out there

1260
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 2: for me, but you're not it. And it's this trajectory

1261
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 2: that she's on to figure out who she is, but

1262
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 2: also figure out who is who is around her. Yes,

1263
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 2: and Mustafa is just so interesting to me because they

1264
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 2: have this little flirtation going and then she tries to

1265
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 2: learn Lebany so she can talk to him a little bit,

1266
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 2: which is so cute.

1267
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and finds out that he was a.

1268
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 2: Teacher you know, back home, and you know, sends most

1269
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 2: of his money back to his family because he wants

1270
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 2: to bring them over and doesn't know how to be

1271
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 2: a teacher here, and just like, I don't know. It's

1272
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 2: just kind of cool that she she really gets to

1273
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 2: know him and decide that, like, this is the kind

1274
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 2: of guy that I want to be around.

1275
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: She has a brief like she It's funny because I

1276
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 1: think she starts a fascination with him in her own

1277
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: kind of vapid way where she's just like, oh, he's

1278
01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: just so foreign and interesting and different and like that's

1279
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 1: very chic right now, you know, in that kind of

1280
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: like New York way. Right. But then she I think,

1281
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 1: eventually develops an actual fondness for him, and you know,

1282
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: he's trying to make himself better. She knows that she

1283
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: needs to make herself better. So it's kind of like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, she he inspires her in a lot

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Speaker 1: of ways, but listen, she's still out here being a

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01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 1: fuck up man. She's like, you know, she like leaves

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01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 1: the windows open, all these like rare books get destroyed

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01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 1: in the process. I think she's like, you know, basically

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01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: having sex with Mustafa and they just completely you know,

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01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: Judy completely flips out, like basically like you have no

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Speaker 1: respect for yourself, You got no respect for the library,

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Speaker 1: Like get your shit together. Also, like Leo, who is

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01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 1: her friend, who's played by the Girmo Diaz character. You know,

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Speaker 1: the the music in this movie is really great. I

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01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 1: mean it's like usual suspects like Tom Tom Club Delight,

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Speaker 1: you know, Carl Craig, Felix, house Cat type stuff, and

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Speaker 1: like Leo is is like what I say is probably

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Speaker 1: the realist depiction of a working DJ. I think I've

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01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,799
Speaker 1: ever seen. He's like trying really hard to get booked

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01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: at this nightclub that's she's basically owned by this like

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Speaker 1: legendary club booker, Renee, And she's this real, like no

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01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: nonsense cigarette smoking bit. She's like, what's up with your tape?

1303
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 1: Like she's not she doesn't suffer fools at all, Right,

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01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 1: he has he finally gets the shot at like DJing

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01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: at her club, and he comes home. He's got like

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01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: an hour before he's got to be there, and it's

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite and one of the most memorable

1308
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: scenes in the movie where he comes back to the

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01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: apartment where him and Mary are at and she has

1310
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Speaker 1: completely reorganized his records by the Dewey decimal system. He

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01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 1: loses his mind and she's like in this moment, Mary

1312
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: is like that kitty cat that like brings a mouse

1313
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: to your door. So it's like a good thing, didn't

1314
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 1: I And he's like.

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01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 2: She's finally getting into her job, like you finally like

1316
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 2: had this revelation about how much she loves what this

1317
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 2: system could be and like what like being a librarian

1318
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 2: could be, and she just wants to share it with

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01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 2: everybody she does.

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Speaker 1: And this like if you've ever been at DJ and

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01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: you have like an hour before you have to go somewhere,

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01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: and your entire fucked up system of organization has been

1323
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 1: completely upended. Like the panic in it, like in his

1324
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: face when he's like, holy fucking shit, what did you? Like,

1325
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm dead, Like why is this? I have a very specific,

1326
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: you know, way of finding what I need in my

1327
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 1: record collection. And just the fact that she imploded it

1328
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: is so real and funny to me. I love that shit.

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Speaker 2: Well, tell me as a forward DJ. Is there any organization?

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01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 2: Is it one of those like I know where everything is,

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01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 2: but nobody else could ever dip in here?

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01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 1: Well? Yes, because okay, depending on like depending on what

1333
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: your gigs are, right, So, like when I was at

1334
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: the height of my djshit, like I used to DJ

1335
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 1: several different nights and they were all different themes, right,

1336
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: So my record collection was basically that. So it was

1337
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 1: like if you looked at the shelves on my wall

1338
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 1: or on whatever, it would be like, Okay, so this

1339
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: is my like, these are my records from the fifties

1340
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 1: and sixties that I pull for this DJ night. These

1341
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: are like my punk and new wave records that I

1342
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: play for this night, and then within those little subcategories,

1343
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 1: they were usually like year, so it would be like genre,

1344
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 1: but then the placement was based on the days of

1345
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 1: the week, so it was basically like towards the front

1346
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: is the Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday or whatever. And then

1347
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,759
Speaker 1: within the little so it's your own fucked up system

1348
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:54,759
Speaker 1: depending on like what your jobs are or what you're doing,

1349
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, because you just really want to grab the

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01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 1: stack and then be gone.

1351
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 2: Right yeah, So the dewey desks and would not work

1352
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 2: for most.

1353
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: DJ I mean unless you had established it way early,

1354
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: like if you were like ground floor DJing, like you're like,

1355
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: I'm just starting this. I'm I got a system. Because

1356
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 1: the part where she pulls out the little scrap of

1357
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: paper and the pencil is so funny to me because

1358
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, no way am I writing down.

1359
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 2: It's so tense. It is a tension that is so

1360
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 2: felt by me because he's like I can't do like

1361
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 2: I don't even know what I'm doing right now, Like

1362
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 2: why am I doing?

1363
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: She's like you should be writing meat or and he's

1364
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: like are you crazy?

1365
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 2: And it's such a it's a cute moment of their

1366
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 2: friendship as well, because he's like, you know, they're trying

1367
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:49,440
Speaker 2: to help each other out, and yeah, again, it's it's

1368
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 2: an exciting thing in your twenties when you're surrounded by

1369
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,560
Speaker 2: people who all want something, you all have ambition, or

1370
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 2: who all want to do something, but you're not always

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01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 2: succeeding at the same rate. So it's just very very

1372
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 2: cute and funny to see them like being these friends

1373
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 2: who are both trying so hard at their jobs in

1374
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 2: totally different ways, and he is losing his mind because

1375
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 2: she's she has possibly demolished his career before it even began.

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01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's this movie is so wonderful if

1377
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: you see it, if you see it as a screwball comedy,

1378
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 1: you will, I think like it better in a weird way,

1379
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: because once I figured that out, I was like, oh,

1380
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 1: this is so fun. The clothes, like she's like there

1381
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: are parts where she's just like going through like she's

1382
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 1: like at somebody's house and she's like going through their

1383
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 1: closet and be like, oh, Chanel or whatever, and like

1384
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: they're at one point she has to sell her clothes

1385
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,759
Speaker 1: in order to make the rent because of course she doesn't,

1386
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: you know, have a job. Theoretically, and that moment of

1387
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 1: where you have to sell off your the thing that

1388
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: you love the most is so real. As a person

1389
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: in your twenties, you're like, I got to sell my

1390
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: record collection, I gotta sell my DVDs whatever it is,

1391
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 1: clothes pan. Yeah, but anyway, I mean, I digress. This

1392
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: movie to me is so wonderful. It's a you know,

1393
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 1: I will never get tired of seeing it. I've seen

1394
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 1: it so many times. And to me, like I said,

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01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't there in the like mid nineties. I wasn't

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01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: in New York in like ninety four ninety five, But

1397
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: to me, it feels like this movie really represents that era,

1398
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 1: or at least in my mind, in my outsider mind,

1399
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, this is what New York feels like

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01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 1: to me in the nineties.

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01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah it did. It really did. And

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01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 2: again I was young and singularly focused, but it really

1403
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 2: did feel like this where I would meet women like

1404
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 2: this and be like, oh my god, my life could

1405
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 2: be awesome. Like it was just inspiring to see people

1406
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 2: just living these big, great, what felt to me like

1407
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 2: these big, great lives that were just purely fueled by creativity.

1408
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 2: And again I didn't have to know about any of

1409
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 2: the issues of the problems are behind the scenes stuff,

1410
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 2: but just kind of that. The initial thought for me

1411
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:04,560
Speaker 2: was my life could be awesome because these people exist.

1412
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: And I swear I djanted a gay bar for like

1413
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: a decade and people will literally be like Natasha, I

1414
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,440
Speaker 1: do like who ah.

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01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 4: Well.

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01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: That's also what.

1417
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 2: I love about this movie is there's so many actual

1418
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:22,919
Speaker 2: superstars of the gay and drag scene of the nineties

1419
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 2: in this movie. Yeah, like they really nailed it with

1420
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 2: just looking back now, I'm like, oh again, took that

1421
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 2: for granted, but they really did capitalize on or at

1422
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 2: least shine a light on actual people who were in

1423
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 2: the scene and what they what they looked and danced

1424
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:40,799
Speaker 2: like and were into.

1425
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like a pre drag race world, right,

1426
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: This is like before you know, drag really really exploded

1427
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: in the kind of public consciousness. So I don't know,

1428
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,879
Speaker 1: to me, like that was like one of the funnest

1429
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 1: parts is seeing kind of like the when they would

1430
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 1: go out and seeing the people that they knew at

1431
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 1: parties and you know, that kind of stuff. It's just

1432
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: so wonderful and I love it. Oh my god, this

1433
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 1: these two movies together this week. It was so heartwarming.

1434
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: I loved. I loved this week so much.

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01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 2: Me too. Get into your nineties, Get into your nineties.

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01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 2: I love that. I also love In the opening scene

1437
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 2: of Party Girl, the first person you see is the

1438
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 2: Lady Bunny, Yes, who's again Drag Superstar. But she's talking

1439
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 2: on the phone and she's like, I lost an earring.

1440
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:33,719
Speaker 2: It's like a little boy in a noose or something.

1441
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,759
Speaker 1: I know. I was like trying really hard because this

1442
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: this movie is so quotable and I'm just like wanting

1443
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: to start the whole podcast with like hello, you know,

1444
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 1: just I don't want to hear my endless Party Girl impressions.

1445
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,440
Speaker 1: I just we don't have time, simply.

1446
01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 2: Time. It's a great fucking movie. It is true double feature.

1447
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 2: Great job you.

1448
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,519
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Speaker 1: Do you want to tell them what the movies are

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01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 1: next week? Hell yeah? Speaking of iconic, your movies for

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01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: next week are Eating Raoul from nineteen eighty two and

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01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:10,799
Speaker 1: Death Raise two thousand from nineteen seventy five. Oh my god,

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