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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: exploding down the sidelines. He's hanging with the Boys, broadcasting

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Speaker 1: live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: Now your host Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon Gross. Boy,

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Speaker 1: have we got a treat for the listeners today? Normally

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Speaker 1: what you thought about the draft? But we have such

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Speaker 1: lot of free time now that a big chunk of

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Speaker 1: his job has been put to bed. Let's welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. Chris Hall, Assistant director of College Scouting. How

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Speaker 1: are you, Chris good? How are you guys doing? Great? Man?

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Speaker 1: You've been on the show. What this will be your

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Speaker 1: third time? I think I think so. Yeah. Talk a

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Speaker 1: little rock music, talk a little football, But today we

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Speaker 1: want to talk about a little thing that happened over

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Speaker 1: will lay Chris Hall, Yeah, not the Battle of winter Fell.

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Speaker 1: Did you watch it? Of course, Nate did you? Did

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Speaker 1: you side at last night Game of Thrones? Don't spoil it?

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Speaker 1: I got a lot. Okay, Hey, by the way, Nate

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Speaker 1: doesn't watch the show, but he knows everything that goes

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Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah. So, so Chris, tell everybody if

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Speaker 1: they haven't listened to us while you're on the show before,

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Speaker 1: tell us what you do on on actual draft day,

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Speaker 1: and then tell us what do that leads up to

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Speaker 1: draft you. So I'm the assistant director of college Scouting,

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Speaker 1: and my main role is really just trying to keep

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Speaker 1: everything organized our college scouting as we get through through

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Speaker 1: through the whole process of the draft, which which for

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Speaker 1: us will start in a couple of weeks within a

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Speaker 1: new meeting at the end of May to get next

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Speaker 1: year's prospects. But I kind of manage all that information,

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Speaker 1: and then as we get into the spring, coordinate the

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Speaker 1: pro days, the combine the All star games, make sure

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Speaker 1: we're getting our coverage right at all that, and then

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Speaker 1: just kind of help run and organize our meetings as

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Speaker 1: we build our draft board and put everything together in there.

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Speaker 1: I just I mean, we've got the greatest director in

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Speaker 1: facilitating everything. We've got a fantastic scouting staff that does

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Speaker 1: an unbelievable job and puts in untold hours on the road,

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of unsung heroes in that room

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Speaker 1: that that put together a great package of information that

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Speaker 1: allows our ownership to make great decisions when we get

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Speaker 1: to the weekend like we did this weekend. When when

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Speaker 1: was your draft board set? When is that? Were you

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Speaker 1: ready to go? We're ready to go. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: for us as we build it. We probably do it

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Speaker 1: we actually set the final board just a couple of

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Speaker 1: days before the actual draft, but we know where players fit,

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Speaker 1: for a guy who's not a real real big big

429
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Speaker 1: frame guy, but man, he can he can knock you out.

430
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Speaker 1: And I think he's got some coverage skills too that

431
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Speaker 1: that he can bring to the table and at that spot,

432
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Speaker 1: I think there's a chance that he can compete and

433
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Speaker 1: get out there. He's going to be a great special

434
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Speaker 1: teams player. And obviously that's the way those younger guys,

435
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: the later picks have to get to the roster and

436
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Speaker 1: show they're worth with that before they can really find

437
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Speaker 1: some playing time. But he's the guy I'm interested to

438
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 1: watch and develop personally out of the group. I love

439
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: all the guys. I mean that. I mean everybody's gonna

440
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 1: say that after your draft, right, I really do. Each

441
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Speaker 1: one of these guys that we took, they have a role,

442
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: they have a fit there. We got a great group

443
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Speaker 1: of humans in the in this group of guys, they're

444
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Speaker 1: they're really good guys. Coach Marinelli likes to say get

445
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Speaker 1: a check what's under the hood, and we like what's

446
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Speaker 1: under the hood on all these guys. Yeah, so we're

447
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 1: excited about this group, and we're really excited about the

448
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Speaker 1: about the free agents that we signed afterwards too. We

449
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: plucked a handful of guys off that we had draft right. Yeah,

450
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Speaker 1: we got Larry Ellen Jr. Yeah, that's right. Your job

451
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: is not done at all. You're you're very busy right

452
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Speaker 1: now trying to bring these guys in rent. Yeah. We well,

453
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Speaker 1: we we we got all our guys signed up right

454
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Speaker 1: after the draft. You you go hard because it's full

455
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Speaker 1: competition with thirty one other teams that first call first. Yeah,

456
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Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of deals being made um to

457
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Speaker 1: get to get those guys in there. And we get

458
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Speaker 1: them all agreed to that night, and uh, you know,

459
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Speaker 1: you look up and we added probably another six or

460
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Speaker 1: seven guys that we had draft bull grades on, So

461
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Speaker 1: you know, we're excited to see those guys come in

462
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Speaker 1: and compete. You know, we got two receivers in Jalen

463
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Speaker 1: Guiden from North Texas and John Vay Johnson from Toledo

464
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 1: that can there or three guys they can really fly.

465
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Speaker 1: So you know that gives us a whole other dimension

466
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Speaker 1: when you roll out there in preseason games and you're

467
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Speaker 1: competing in camp and everything. So we're excited about those

468
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Speaker 1: two guys as well. You said the word good humans,

469
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Speaker 1: and I've heard that this locker room that this team

470
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: has now is one of, if not the best locker

471
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Speaker 1: room as far as like character guys and good people

472
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Speaker 1: and just really a solid group of human beings. Has

473
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Speaker 1: there been, I guess a focused effort on not only

474
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Speaker 1: getting good football players, but when you guys draft, really

475
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Speaker 1: making sure they're good people, have the right attitude and

476
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Speaker 1: right character. I wouldn't say it's a focused effort, but

477
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Speaker 1: it's it's something that we look for definitely. And part

478
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Speaker 1: of that reason is when you come here the way

479
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Speaker 1: we compete in practice, you've got to be made of

480
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Speaker 1: the right stuff to go out there and do what

481
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Speaker 1: we do. We are a hard, hard playing team, and

482
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you see that when we get

483
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Speaker 1: guys that come in off the waiver wires or or

484
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Speaker 1: come from other places. And one of the first things

485
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Speaker 1: I always say is do we do this every day?

486
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Speaker 1: I mean the way they go after it, and that's

487
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Speaker 1: that's a great tribute to our coaching staff, from coach

488
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Speaker 1: Garrett to coach Marinelli on down that they demand these

489
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Speaker 1: guys come in and practice hard every day and are

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Speaker 1: focused and work at it. And I think you've seen

491
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Speaker 1: that paid dividends for us and it'll continue. You know

492
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Speaker 1: when when you have that kind of mentality and work rate,

493
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Speaker 1: you get better work done. That's what it does is

494
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Speaker 1: it cuts down on mistakes. Guys that can focus and

495
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Speaker 1: practice hard and practice right, it cuts down on mistakes

496
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Speaker 1: and when and where it really helps you is you

497
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Speaker 1: may not be a better player, but in tighter situations,

498
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Speaker 1: on harder times, you're not gonna make that mental physical mistake.

499
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Speaker 1: You can rely on you. Yeah, yeah, I understand it

500
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501
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502
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Speaker 1: do that, you may like Brian Young was a better

503
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505
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560
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: think in the NFC East had the best draft? Huh um,

561
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: you know you had. Everybody did good. I mean everybody

562
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: feels like they did good. You know, the Redskins, I

563
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: think they added some weapons to their deal. They got

564
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Speaker 1: a quarterback. They could be really interesting for us to

565
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Speaker 1: deal with. The Giants did the same thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: So they both have a rookie quarterback that's going to

567
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Speaker 1: be in play for the next next few years. Gonna say,

568
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Speaker 1: if those work out, all of a sudden, this Divi

569
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570
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Speaker 1: to have four really young quarterbacks that can play a

571
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Speaker 1: long time and compete against each other for a long

572
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: long time if they all hit so uh, you know,

573
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: anytime you had a guy like that, you got to

574
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Speaker 1: pay attention to it. If they turned out, you know

575
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Speaker 1: they're gonna be there's gonna be some tough competition for

576
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Speaker 1: a long time for us. You know. The Redskins, uh

577
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: did nice with market sweat was it sweat man defense

578
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: already nice inside? Yeah, you know he was a guy

579
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: that some people had some health concerns on, but boy,

580
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: we loved him and that that dude can get after

581
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: the past. Yeah, you know, you had a potential starting

582
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Speaker 1: quarterback and a guy that can disrupt the quarterback. Yeah,

583
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Speaker 1: that makes you pay time. I like his name. He

584
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: got a cool name. And they went back. Yeah they

585
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Speaker 1: went back later. They're Washington, go back later and get

586
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Speaker 1: a guy from Ohio State or wide receiver. They went

587
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Speaker 1: back later. Yeah, and got one. I don't have stuff. Yeah, yeah,

588
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: he got one of these boys. Man, I assume it's

589
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: hard though, to keep truck during the heat of the moment.

590
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Speaker 1: You don't have a real idea what who's got what

591
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Speaker 1: and who's Yeah, we've got a lot of great tools

592
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: in there to where we can click on a team

593
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: helmet and see who they've picked and everything. But man,

594
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Speaker 1: you're so focused in on what you're doing. You can't

595
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Speaker 1: be worrying about what other teams you're doing now every

596
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Speaker 1: now and then, Every now and then you might drop

597
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Speaker 1: a explicative when one of your guys goes off the

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Speaker 1: board that you really liked and was hoping he would

599
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Speaker 1: get to your draft pick. But at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, you got to stay focused on what you're

601
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Speaker 1: doing in there. Who is the guy scout our coach

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Speaker 1: that you know they got two or three guys that

603
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Speaker 1: they really how who gives you the most bad words

604
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Speaker 1: when they got back off? You know what it might

605
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Speaker 1: be Will McClay. Yeah, But I mean, you know he's

606
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Speaker 1: so focused and driven in there. I can use that

607
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Speaker 1: word that's gonna be on our t shirts now. But

608
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Speaker 1: it's you know, you spend so much time and energy

609
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Speaker 1: and effort into studying these guys and learning them, and

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Speaker 1: you know, you develop favorites, and you develop guys that

611
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Speaker 1: you know would be great fits for us. And you know,

612
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Speaker 1: you only got one pick in each round generally, and

613
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Speaker 1: you can't take all the guys you like. And that's why,

614
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Speaker 1: you know, we spend time trying to put together the

615
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Speaker 1: best guy that'll fit the spot, that we think is

616
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Speaker 1: the right fit and value on each one of these picks.

617
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Speaker 1: And it's a it's a sliding scale, and it changes

618
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Speaker 1: as you go through the draft. You know, what was

619
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Speaker 1: it like then day one, when you knew you weren't

620
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Speaker 1: going to be doing anything. I mean, we just that

621
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Speaker 1: was rough. I mean you're in there, you're in there

622
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Speaker 1: watching everybody else get better. And then all of a sudden,

623
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Speaker 1: we said, you know what, we already won about seven

624
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Speaker 1: or eight games with our number one draft this year,

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Speaker 1: So it didn't it didn't sting as bad when you

626
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Speaker 1: stop and think that we got our draft pick ahead

627
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Speaker 1: of time, and he helped us become a better football

628
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Speaker 1: team in Amari Cooper. And you know, we really looked

629
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Speaker 1: up at that board all the way back to the

630
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Speaker 1: fall when that whole thing took place, and we made

631
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Speaker 1: a decision back then that there wasn't going to be

632
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Speaker 1: a receiver in this draft that had anywhere near his

633
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Speaker 1: talent and ability and his capabilities. So that ultimately is

634
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Speaker 1: is one of the main reasons why we chose to

635
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Speaker 1: make that make that trade. And you know, I just

636
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Speaker 1: imagine pretty good team. It was just a punch we needed.

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Speaker 1: Gave us an unbelievable shot in the arm at the time,

638
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Speaker 1: and it it helped Dac, It helped, it helped our entire

639
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Speaker 1: team on both sides of the ball, and brought a

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Speaker 1: great energy to it. And uh, you know, we got

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Speaker 1: what eight ten plus games out of our first round

642
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: pick this year already. It's obviously great moving all that,

643
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: but I would still just think from your point of view,

644
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: you've been working hard all year. The first day, you're

645
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: just sitting there wait, waiting on waiting on the catfish

646
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: to be and then you know you're sitting there picking

647
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: fifty eight and you're thinking, man, we're gonna lose about

648
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: forty of our first forty players on our board before

649
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: we even get a crack at one of these guys.

650
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes time, so it's hard on that that regard but

651
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: when you when you stop and think why we don't

652
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: have a pick, it made it go down a lot easier.

653
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: You know what's amazing is this is one thing I

654
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: hope i'd never do again. But this draft has taught

655
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,239
Speaker 1: me a lot. It's a lot of guys win in

656
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: the first and second round where guys were like, oh,

657
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: you could have waited on that. But I don't notice

658
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: people people are starting no, look at the whole draft.

659
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm quite sure he can go down and say this

660
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: guy didn't rate as higher as you know what I'm

661
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: saying this. I mean, you know we took Tony Pollard

662
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: too soon? Why did we take you know, it's you

663
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: can question every one of these things with every single team,

664
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: but there's not a team in the league that didn't

665
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: walk out of their Sunday night going, man, I love

666
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: how we made our team better. Yeah, you know, we

667
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: did great. Everybody thinks they got an A. But you know,

668
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: there's all your grades and somebody got to see and

669
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: there's a few d's out there. Everybody feels like they

670
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: did a good job with their guys. We all feel like, hey,

671
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: this was great value in in this round where we

672
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: took this player and then people get on the radio

673
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: and on TV. Oh, they took him too earlier. They

674
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: could have waited. Do you know we could have waited,

675
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: or maybe we had intel that said we knew that

676
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: somebody else like that guy too, and we had to

677
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: get up ahead of that team to make sure that

678
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: we got them. Yeah, I guess you just don't know.

679
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's why you guys to a degree traded

680
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: down then in the fourth fifth round, because you you

681
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: had a block of players there you knew were going

682
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: to be there. When you're exactly well, you don't know,

683
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: but you feel good when you've got in that situation,

684
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: when you've got maybe five or six guys that you

685
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: like and you're not just in love with one of them,

686
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: then it's okay to take that slide back a little bit.

687
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: And that enabled us to pick up two more picks

688
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: and get and get two more guys that we didn't

689
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: have to maybe compete for in free agency with other teams. Now,

690
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: did we lose a guy. We might have lost a

691
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: guy or two on the way, but we also had

692
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: enough players in that vein. It's when you get when

693
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: you dial then on one guy and somebody calls and

694
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: offers you a seventh round pick to slide down a

695
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, you don't. You don't want to

696
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: lose that guy. So those are the deals you say

697
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: no to um to make sure you get the guy

698
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: that you want. It's just it's just amazing, Chris, that

699
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: you know. I do a little radio show for one

700
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: of the locals, and all I heard was if they

701
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: liked it, they got great pick. If they didn't like,

702
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: they go, oh, he could have slid back to the third.

703
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, in my mind, you think that teams

704
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: spend millions and millions of dollars, got scouts of different levels,

705
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,959
Speaker 1: pro scout, college, pro person and they don't know who

706
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: they want for their team, regardless of way you may

707
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: have them placed. That that don't make no sense. It's

708
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 1: just don't And don't get me wrong. You do wonder

709
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: about some gms or managers over the years because you've

710
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: seen them make bad plays, But we don't know. This

711
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: is a new set of gms that came into place

712
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: about two three new sets. You know, like they killing

713
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: mister Kettleman in New York. That's just that's that displayed.

714
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: You know, did you notice the super Bowl team he

715
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: built in Carolina. Yeah, he might, he might have an

716
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: idea what he's doing. I mean, I've known Dave for

717
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: a long long time and he's a great man, and

718
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, I know their direct competition, but he's up

719
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: there getting roasted for all these things that he done.

720
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: I mean, we could be getting roast. I mean, good lord,

721
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: Jerry's been roasted so many times over the years that

722
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: it's crazy. So it goes on in every in every

723
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: city because you know, some fans or radio personalities, they

724
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: get locked in on what a team should do, and

725
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: you know they're not in the room where it happens,

726
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: and they sued one player. It's you know, how much

727
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: how much I just I don't want to bag on

728
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: that industry at all, but how much work have I

729
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: promise you scouting staff in the league, whether it's the

730
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys or any other team, has done more work

731
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: building their draft board than Anyboddy who's putting together their

732
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: top hundred list or looking at the top ten guys

733
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: at each position. And I'm not taking anything away from

734
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: what they do. I mean, some of those guys work

735
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: hard at it and do a great job of it.

736
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of snake orders don't have all

737
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: the information that we have. Yeah, when it comes to

738
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: evaluating a draft, you know, we typically say, well, let's

739
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: give it two or three years and then look back

740
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: at it. What's what's kind of y'all standard when you say,

741
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: was that a successful draft or not? Is there a

742
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: time frame or how do you guys evaluate drafts? You know,

743
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: going all the way back to coach Landry, it was,

744
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: you know, year three, you're gonna know about a player

745
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: for sure, Um, he might come into the league as

746
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle and you know end up being a

747
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: hell of an offensive lineman. Mark tuone was that way? Now?

748
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: Was that way? Real? Hey? Look, hey, but this is

749
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: this is so funny because draft grades NFL dot com

750
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: A But you go all the way over here to

751
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: the datas in the news be mine to see everybody.

752
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: It's like, really, and I'm not going to talk bad

753
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: about Davia's Morning News, but come on, I know your history.

754
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: It's Baskin Robbins. Everybody likes a different flavor. I mean, wow,

755
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: sometimes the mill is pretty good and sometimes you want,

756
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: you know, let's see, let's see what's the road. I

757
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: don't know, but let's see what I got. I think

758
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: Douglas Well, I think that's the voice. I think that

759
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: ourselves used to say that the best of them got

760
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: fifty fifty and got fifty fifty right. And I think

761
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: that the most one of the most criticized picks in

762
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: recent years, as far as you could have gotten him later,

763
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: was Travis Frederick And I think that turned out fine.

764
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: And just because so many picks for everybody don't pan out.

765
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: Anybody that sniffs of being a reach, the odds are

766
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: against you already in perception. Yeah, I was one of

767
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: those guys, Travis Frederick man, and I had to eat

768
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: that up quick. Yeah, yeah, I'm serious. I had to

769
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: eat that up quick now for real and see that.

770
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: This is what in my industry, you're ready. That is

771
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: what I hate the most is guys can't even say, hey, man,

772
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: I was wrong. You know, they still got to be

773
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: a reason why Chris Hall should have went out and

774
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: got this guy from Jamaica. You know what I'm saying.

775
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: You know they got a team over there, Jamaica, a

776
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: six eight guy. Yeah, and at the end of the day,

777
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: you're you're not going to be right on all these

778
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: guys and we know that, and sometimes that, you know,

779
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: whether usually not the draft picks with some of these

780
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: free agents that we're excited about. They may walk out

781
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: here our first rookie minicamp and go, that guy ain't

782
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: gonna make it, yeah, you know, or holy cow, human law,

783
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: this guy's got a chance to be on be playing

784
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: this fall human law. You don't know, human law? Human

785
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: there you go. Finally, Yeah, to ask for it four

786
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: times one would not. No, he got it. I was

787
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: just trying to hope we get it, you know. But

788
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: I guess they call them by their names and instead

789
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: of their nicknames. But let me ask you this, Chris,

790
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: if we had to draft Shannon, what do you think

791
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: his shrints are? I was about looking at it, his handsome,

792
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: good look nailed, nailed the face of the franchise determination. Okay, god,

793
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: what about what about our partner over here? And I

794
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: already did it. He's got the rings to show for it.

795
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: But now this is where we start. Now, so OTA's

796
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: mini camps. So what is y'all part in that? Um? Really,

797
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: it's just kind of a little bit of why tune

798
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: and evaluating at this point. I mean, the coaching staff

799
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: really takes over at this point, you know, full force,

800
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: and they've got they've got to teach these guys. They've

801
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: got to make sure they're knowing what to do. We

802
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: talked about the accountability of the players and the competition

803
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: as we go forth. I mean, these new guys have

804
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: to be they have to learn what our standard is.

805
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: They they'll be held to that standard. And it's going

806
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: to be hard for some of them at first because

807
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: they're coming from different programs where they've never seen anything

808
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: like this. I mean some of them are small school guys,

809
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: some of them are big school guys, some are Power five.

810
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: They've come from all over the place, but right now

811
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: they're they're all cowboys and they've got to learn, you know,

812
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: how we do things here, from everything from how Mike

813
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: Wisick teaches them how to lift weights to you know,

814
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: how Scott centered is going to try and help fuel

815
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: their bodies with nutrition and everything. And then of course,

816
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: the most important thing is learning the playbook and showing

817
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: a coach that he can trust you when you're out

818
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: on the field. And that's what all this first camp

819
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: is is a teaching session more so than anything else.

820
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: And you know you're gonna get your first taste of

821
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,479
Speaker 1: who's who maybe is going to need a little extra

822
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: time to learn things, or what coach is going to

823
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: have to spend some more time with certain guys, or

824
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: you know, as they dive into the playbook, you know

825
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: it's not easy and it's a different book, especially for

826
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: some of these offensive guys that have come from these

827
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: some you know, spread systems in college where you know,

828
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: you get some of these guys that don't don't have

829
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: much of a playbook in college. They're they're looking at

830
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: that superman side, hard Joe, but the side that tell

831
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: them what to do. You know what you know what

832
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: amazes me is and I think, and now I understand

833
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: college is not four pros. When what I mean by

834
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: that is if I'm a college coach, I got to

835
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: coach with us before me and make it better and

836
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: get I gotta win with what I got. But I

837
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 1: think it's a shame now that what are you talking

838
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: about is all linemen just stand up two points stand

839
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: That takes away from learning leverage. A lot of times

840
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: that take away from getting quick feet. I think running

841
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: backs just standing eight nine yards deep never get the

842
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: really block linebackers and defensive tackles and linement and that.

843
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: So when they get in pros and all of a sudden,

844
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds coming at you and dash your guy

845
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: to help, and they don't even know that keeps you

846
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: off the field wide receivers. All I do about all

847
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: over do was run a nine route. Well, brother, we're

848
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: gonna ask you to run a little you know, we're

849
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: gonna actually run a little bit different. There's there's eight

850
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: numbers before nine. Yeah. Yeah. And so now a guy,

851
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: a guy that does not understand this thinks to be

852
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: like when they get a break to away from the field,

853
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,600
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Speaker 1: So I know that, you know, all routes look the same,

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Speaker 1: off of this line. They don't know that. Well, Chris Man,

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Speaker 1: it's always a pleasure. Yeah, I enjoy it, man, Tay

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Speaker 1: think I think the reason he let's introduced her first.

926
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Speaker 1: It's great, Tay great, it's great. Used to fill though

927
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Speaker 1: with Chris Hall. Chris Hall is very knowledgeable. I'll tell

928
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Speaker 1: you what made Chris the best so far. What's that?

929
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Speaker 1: It's because he understands what we do. I think he

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Speaker 1: knows how you segue and moved around. I think he

931
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Speaker 1: knew and then uh, we've Pepper with basically say questions

932
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Speaker 1: every years. His answers different way. Chris is a hell

933
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: of a golfer too, is him and I hit the

934
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Speaker 1: course last year after I started learning, and he's very patient.

935
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Speaker 1: I think that's one because he also has daughters, so

936
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Speaker 1: he understands that. But yeah, we played golf together. It

937
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: was right before training camp and we've been training to

938
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Speaker 1: knock down another day. But draft, he's been a little busy.

939
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: He's been a little busy getting some new players in here.

940
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Speaker 1: When he went blank on names that guys that played here,

941
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: and he kind of went blank. I said, yeah, he

942
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Speaker 1: getting tired. Yeah, even though even though he's rested. You know,

943
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Speaker 1: even though they rested a little bit after the draft,

944
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Speaker 1: it went to sleep, got some long rest. It still

945
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Speaker 1: man because they Wow, I wouldn't want to be in

946
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Speaker 1: their shoes too much time. What you got for us today,

947
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: Tay Well? I was gonna ask Nate because you know,

948
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Speaker 1: we were lucky enough to be together during the draft.

949
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: But Nate, we weren't with you. Were you happy with

950
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Speaker 1: the Tristan Lpeck? It seemed like right? What you yeah?

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00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: You know? And I kicked myself from miss tab because

952
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Speaker 1: for a month I want to fire Hydrant. I just

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Speaker 1: need not give me the fattest man in the world

954
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Speaker 1: home have it and the last two weeks bound out.

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Speaker 1: But when they came back to and I was happy

956
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Speaker 1: over one place where I was doing the draft at

957
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Speaker 1: got the guy who I was working with at that time,

958
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: he was so set on safeties. You know, I think

959
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Speaker 1: a lot of fans were too. You know what that

960
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: a that all teach us a valuable lesson because the

961
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Speaker 1: Cowboys and past years could not keep a secret that

962
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Speaker 1: I only kept a secret, but they had everybody going

963
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: down the wrong road. Yeah too, they don't value that

964
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Speaker 1: position as much. Yeah. Wow, you know truth bombs upstairs?

965
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Speaker 1: What's that brother? Because you said you did a one

966
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Speaker 1: eighty on us, and you said, first pick, go get

967
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Speaker 1: a fat defensive linement and the rest offense. Right, and

968
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: they went fat defensive line sixty three three oh a

969
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: offensive line running back. And I said, Lord Jesus, please

970
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: don't draft Nate. Will never let us live it down

971
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Speaker 1: because I switch. But I'm gonna tell you something. Somebody

972
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Speaker 1: who I liked, and I should have asked Chris, when

973
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Speaker 1: you saw talking about the Savage kid, I kind of

974
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: went reading up on him with the Green Bay right, yeah,

975
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Speaker 1: like first round. Yeah, I kind of went reading up

976
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Speaker 1: on him, and I'm like, I like this kid, and

977
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Speaker 1: uh so he was one of my wishless guys because

978
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Speaker 1: normally when you go even though there you may have

979
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: this guy sliding for a second round pick, normal would

980
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: everybody go to just talking about the kid and then

981
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: everybody forgot about the next name. Boom he was gone.

982
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I know I told Shannon that

983
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: no more Savage jerseys. No, you tell you man. We

984
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Speaker 1: got Hill jerseys. We got we got the whole Jackson family,

985
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Speaker 1: Michael and Joe. I don't know if this is a

986
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Speaker 1: good year to to draft Michael Jackson. We're just good.

987
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: He likes to go by Mike, so we'll call it.

988
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: I do have an interesting little tidbit that Scott of

989
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: Goldnett gave us. This is the third year that for

990
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys Draft they've drafted at least two players from

991
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Speaker 1: the same school. So a couple of years ago it

992
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Speaker 1: was Michigan with Jordan Lewis and Taco and actually also

993
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: Cheeto and Jordan Carroll. Jordan Carroll isn't here anymore. And

994
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: then the next year was Boise State with Cedric Wilson

995
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Speaker 1: and of course Layton vander esh and then this year

996
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: was Miami with the back to back picks. Yeah, Kurt,

997
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Speaker 1: you did a cool story sixty facts about the Cowboys Draft. Yeah,

998
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: just like he didn't even tell him, tell us on

999
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: the show or anything. A couple of things out of

1000
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: there that I was shocked by is that they drafted

1001
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: pat Riley the basketball coach, and Carl Lewis the sprinter.

1002
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: What are some other what were some other facts in

1003
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: there that was some of your favorite They've had some

1004
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: other guys like they can't remember names now that Lou

1005
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: Hudson I think was went on to be an All

1006
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: Star basketball player. Um, the drafted guy that played twelve

1007
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: years from in the majors as a baseball player. Um.

1008
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's there's some interesting both good and bad.

1009
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: Actually facts, were there any facts that weren't like player

1010
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: related that were I didn't read your whole list. I

1011
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: just read thought it just the interesting part Kurt and

1012
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: still has to go back and read it. Let miss

1013
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: it is, uh, miss take what what what else? You know?

1014
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: Listening broadest and other people where you got a little

1015
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: bit of information. What are some of the other players

1016
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: of things that you liked it about this draft that

1017
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: you heard that was nice about this draft? Well, yeah,

1018
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: of course I was surprised that they didn't go after

1019
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: a safety earlier then you know, when they started focusing

1020
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: on that the defensive backfield. But the biggest thing that

1021
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: I was surprised by it was the fact that they

1022
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: went after two running backs and in prominent positions drafted

1023
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: those guys. And I was listening to Will McClay on

1024
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Speaker 1: something and they were talking about, like, Okay Webber from

1025
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: Ohio State, what does this mean for Tony Pollard. I

1026
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: think Stephen Jones compared him to Alvin Kamara, not saying

1027
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: that he is, but just saying that he had similar

1028
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: traits and skills that they could utilize the intangibles. And

1029
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: I was very surprised that they went after two guys

1030
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: because now that's a big competition spot which really wasn't

1031
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: around before that. And I think you think they won't

1032
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: be resigning Zeke. Yeah, just you know, we got a

1033
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: new Ohio, say, guy, let's just keep keep him around.

1034
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: Well they picked up his fifth year. Yeah, so wow,

1035
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: maybe they're setting themselves up if he gets upset about

1036
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: that and tries to hold out or something. They got

1037
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: some insurance. Who knows. I'm interested to see how that's

1038
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: going to play out, because see a lot of people

1039
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: won't admit, you know, and I like what, Chris, So

1040
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: you better be factory in. We may can't pay this guy, right,

1041
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: and that better be a part of how you draft

1042
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: because if you don't, because that's real life, you'll be

1043
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: left naked man. Yeah yeah, yeah. And I heard a

1044
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: bunch of people last week. They were asking questions like,

1045
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: after we'd been so heavy on Cornerback and safety talk

1046
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: and was like, oh, so they're not signing Byron Jones,

1047
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 1: like they're just gonna get rid of him, and that's

1048
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: not the case. Ultimately, they would like to keep all players.

1049
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: But just with the salary situation, said it what it is.

1050
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: You have to be aware of that because then they're

1051
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: gonna be mad when they're like, oh, Jacksonville just paid

1052
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: Byron huge money. You know, who do we have now?

1053
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: Because you guys never set anyone up. So that's what

1054
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: they're doing right now. And it seems boring kind of

1055
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: because you don't know what these guys are. But it's great. Yeah,

1056
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: great safety literally safety a guy. We had it here

1057
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: the other day. Miss te brought in Danny right see,

1058
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: and I'm going along with Curtain. The other guys that

1059
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: have said is that they don't value it the way

1060
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Speaker 1: they do a three technique, or they don't value the

1061
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: way they do running back at dis cards. Yeah, but

1062
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: that's not to say that we we we can't look

1063
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: at our safeties as no bodies. You know, we just

1064
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: automatically took that. Okay, Yes, Jennifer Heath has some traits

1065
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: that we don't like. That there word again, some traits

1066
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: that may not be appealing to most, but I've always thought,

1067
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: who gets to the quarterback first, the safety or the

1068
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: three technique in this in this scheme, in this defense

1069
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: are the defensive man. That's why I was so keen

1070
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 1: on that getting that defensive tackle that can stop the run.

1071
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: But it's a health acious pass Russian because that, I

1072
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: promise you, if these guys up front can mash with

1073
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: with Quinn, you don't have to worry about the back

1074
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: end as much. They're gonna be set up. They can

1075
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: stop being so scared about blowing the coverage and take

1076
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: calculated risks on jumping that rock, because that's that's the

1077
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: difference to happen after that capability and the knowledge to

1078
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: know when you can drop that rock what route can

1079
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: possibly be ruined, and not be scared to get beat. Yeah,

1080
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: and I think we saw that with the movies they

1081
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: did make to get Quinn, and yeah, you know, to

1082
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: get deal paid the way they did. But then you're

1083
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: bringing up guys, I mean, Danny McCray, Burry Church, Jeff Heath.

1084
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: A lot of those safeties they've had in the years

1085
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: past were either late, late picks or completely undrafted. So

1086
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: I think they feel comfortable about that, and that seemed

1087
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: like everybody else better than everybody else. But the thing

1088
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: about it, until they got like Danny said, until they

1089
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: get a guy that's ahead above him, you can't be

1090
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: six inches better than it because right now he is

1091
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: a veteran and he's learned, so he knew a limit

1092
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: of tricks to the trade. So you're gonna just go

1093
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: out and draft the guy that's gonna run willy nilly

1094
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: back there. So you gotta get a guy. That safety

1095
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: gonna have to be that guy that comes in and

1096
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: he's maturer off the bat. He's a professional right off

1097
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: the bat. He understands his position and what he's back

1098
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: there doing and the responsibilities that come to it. Was

1099
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: that guy there. I think that guy was, but he

1100
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: probably got took early because the safety is rap was

1101
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: still there after them. There was a few safeties still

1102
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: there after that second pick. It was a few guys

1103
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: still there just rolling off the board, five or six

1104
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: players down at US. So if the Cowboys wanting them,

1105
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: they were there. But I think the Savage guy and

1106
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: the other guy that went first, who nobody thought. The

1107
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: two guys that they think was going in the first

1108
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: round they went in the first round. Yeah. Two things,

1109
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: I want to get too real quick, get there? What

1110
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: are you? A couple of years favorite things? I saw

1111
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: you looking at him. I'll give you my favorite one

1112
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: here from nineteen sixty four, we drafted Bob Hayes, who

1113
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: obviously was bullet Bob Hayes went on to win the

1114
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: gold medal at the Olympics. But unlike Carl Lewis, he

1115
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: wasn't just a track guy. He was actually a pretty

1116
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: good football player. He played at Florida A and M.

1117
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 1: First African American to ever play in the Senior Bowl.

1118
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: And really I didn't know that in that game, but Bob, hey,

1119
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: he caught a touchdown pass from Joe nainleth in that game. Wow?

1120
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: Was that immobile back then? I think so? Has it

1121
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: been amobile the whole time? Wow? And the head coach

1122
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: of the South team, Tom Landry, that's some that's some

1123
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: deep digging for Walker was a world class sprinter in college.

1124
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: He was he was running against Carl Lewis. And then

1125
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: the last thing I want to get to Taylor, do

1126
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: you watch a game of Thrones? Here's my thing and

1127
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: part of the one percent of the population does not

1128
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: here you donate does but he knows everything that happens

1129
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: on the show Guilty Pleasure. So um back, I guess

1130
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, when it really was like

1131
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: gaining all the popularity, I was like, maybe I'll start

1132
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: watching it, and then I didn't, and then now here

1133
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: it is the final season, three more episodes. I thought

1134
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: last year was the final season, so I'm confused, but no,

1135
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: this is the final. Okay, but didn't they say last

1136
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: year was I don't think so, or they like hin

1137
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: did it something? I think they left it up in

1138
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: the air. I don't think they said that. I tells

1139
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: right here they did this, so sweet, don't don't sail people.

1140
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: Let me say something. All the main characters, all of

1141
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: the main characters. I'm telling you they you knew that

1142
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: day was gonna get wiped out by the Walkers. Why

1143
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: is he I don't even know what he's saying. And now, well,

1144
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I'm waiting until this season is

1145
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: over to completely go back. Just remember everything you thought

1146
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: everybody thought John wasn't name John John Snow the Dragon princess. Uh,

1147
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: the raven guy who went raven the other night in

1148
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: the wheelchair. Uh, bran Brand, all these people, I mean,

1149
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: the d's white and then the white King. He woke

1150
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: up even the bodies to night that I don't ever

1151
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: say something, girl, I tell you something. This is what

1152
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: was so funny. Right at the last minute, my girl

1153
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: just came out. What are you seeing it? My girl

1154
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: came out of waste. Oh yeah, that was sweet. Bro.

1155
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: He did a bunch of people. Really, man, I don't care.

1156
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 1: I don't care. Watch it when you're supposed to watch.

1157
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: But but the super Bowl is coming though, bro, Yeah,

1158
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Because the queen that thought she was

1159
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: gonna get the queen that thought, y'all watch the Game

1160
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,919
Speaker 1: of Thrones, don't listen, put your fingers on the queen

1161
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: that thought that she's never make it through the White Walkers.

1162
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: Now she's sitting there like with that little smirk on

1163
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: her face. Okay, yeah, it was. It was. It was.

1164
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: It was a good show. I mean, they did it right.

1165
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: It was so sweet to all of these people just

1166
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: to know you're gonna die and all of a sudden

1167
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: you just starting now, no telling you, girl, Taylor. Here's

1168
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: the thing, day, blue baby day, y'all blue. First thing

1169
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,919
Speaker 1: Taylor's going to learn when she starts watching the show.

1170
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: Is no one is say no one, So no one

1171
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: really hasn't given anything because and everybody expected this episode.

1172
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: You expected at least half the main characters to get

1173
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: wiped out. And you know, we had we had a

1174
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: death pool Saturday night at the bar, and me and

1175
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: two of my buddies, we all we we drafted four

1176
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: characters a piece, and every character that died on your

1177
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: list you got ten bucks from the other two guys. Wow.

1178
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you the sweetest I'm gonna tell

1179
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: you the sweetest thing. The sweetest thing, Miss Tay, and

1180
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm not a sentimental guy, is you know the one

1181
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: that the one guy that was fighting for the for

1182
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: the Dragon Queen, then all of a sudden he got

1183
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: slave and then the big dragon came without the noise.

1184
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: But you know he liked John Snow, the red Dragon

1185
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: kind of like old John Snow at least smelt him

1186
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: out a couple of a week ago. Jeez. You want

1187
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: to know the sweetest thing about Game of Arms. If

1188
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: you guys have seen the documentary series that cnnded called

1189
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: two thousands, basically when HBO, like after HBO finished The

1190
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: Sopranos and they had Nurse Jackie. They had a couple

1191
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: different series. They were like pretty much like bottoms up

1192
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: because Netflix was really entering the movie market and before that,

1193
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: HBO was like the king of that, like they had

1194
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: all the old movies, and so the HBO executives were like,

1195
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,919
Speaker 1: we don't know what we're gonna do, Like we're either

1196
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: about to just be completely done or we have to

1197
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: get a couple other like big time shows. And so

1198
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: they had a couple other ones I can't even think of,

1199
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: like White Queen, The Queen Show like Rome I think

1200
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: was a show that was on HBO, but then The

1201
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,919
Speaker 1: White Queen is the show it always be. Yeah, yeah,

1202
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: here we go. Game of Thrones astarted. The budget was

1203
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: so small they didn't even have like enough money in

1204
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: that season one to show any of like real battle scenes. Yeah,

1205
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: and now it's like and now it's episodes of movie. Yeah.

1206
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: It's like one of the most historical television series that

1207
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: will ever. I'm telling you, it's an existence, say, HBO. Yeah,

1208
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: that's what That's pretty cool. But no, let me say this.

1209
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: In this last season, things that you thought they would

1210
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: drag out to the end, like the Big Wars and

1211
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: all that you thought they would, but they brought this

1212
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: in the second. You see what I'm saying. You would

1213
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: have thought that they would have build it up more

1214
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: and they the battle would have been very last. Yeah,

1215
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: there's gonna be another. Yeah, let's go super Bowl coming girl. Yeah,

1216
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: right now, they got the AFC Championship game went up.

1217
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: Let's get out of here before Nate pisses every one

1218
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: of our visit pushers offs. So I'll tell you what,

1219
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: man watch this. Yeah, he said he didn't even watch it.

1220
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: His wife does. He just said, forget I hate that

1221
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones goes. This is my Christian beliege. Thanks

1222
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: for showing up, Hurt, Thanks for Brandon date. I tell

1223
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: you I seen saw Taylor peak around the corner. Thanks

1224
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: for joining Douglas, Thanks for doing what you do. Ken,

1225
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: Thanks for pushing the button. And I'm sending somebody the draft. No,

1226
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: thanks for scheduling everything. We will be back next Monday.

1227
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: What we're gonna talk about next week the fans. I'm

1228
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: gonna try to get one of these games. Will McClay

1229
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: oldest Will McClay said he will be glad to Yeah,

1230
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: check with him. He said he would do it. Maybe

1231
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: Will McClay, maybe a draft pick, maybe fan calls, maybe

1232
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: all the above. Next week on Hanging with the Boys.

1233
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,959
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.