WEBVTT - S1: EP 5 — “And She Screams, He Disappeared!” 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:23.439 Hello, my angels or devils, demons, mortals, reanimated ectoplasm, however 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:27.480 you identify. Welcome back to another episode of Haunting. 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:31.240 We're running into a little problem here at Haunting HQ 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:36.080 that I'm not entirely unfamiliar with. We're generating too much 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:38.960 at revenue. We're not sure how to spend it. All 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:42.160 material goods are of no use to me here, hence 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.360 the reworking of my entire brand. So we're in a 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.600 little bit of a "financial pickle," as my dad's tax 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.440 fraud attorney used to put it, different sides of the 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:54.920 same coin, though we're flush, whereas he was basically doing 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.760 dishes for the IRS. 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:04.520 AnyWho, I had the idea to donate our proceeds to charity. 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:05.000 (mumbles) 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.400 Okay? Len and I had the idea to donate our 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:14.679 proceeds to charity. Len pitched the American Cancer Society, but 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:18.040 I was thinking Camp Conflict, which is a summer program 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:21.640 I funded Maine where we manufacture safe adverse experiences for 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.279 privileged teens so they have something to write their college 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:27.360 essays about. It's helped a lot of deserving kids get 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:28.679 into bottom tier ivys. 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.480 So while Naomi prepares the oversized check, we'll meet James 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.919 from Philadelphia, who guides a ghost tour through the city 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:41.360 where he and his group - Honestly, you can probably guess. 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:47.360 I work with Stephen DeMarco, another ghost tour guide. He's 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:51.440 my de facto mentor. Stephen's telling me this story. He 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:55.600 had three college girls. They had booked the extended tour. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:00.400 One of them screams, "He disappeared! You didn't see that? 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.000 He disappeared! You were just talking to him, and now 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:07.400 he's gone." They're scared to death because they just watched 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:12.000 a man disappear in front of him. Spirits are here. 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.280 I don't know why, but they're here, and I'm all 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:20.440 for skepticism, but there are many things that can't be explained. 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.640 My name is James. I am a ghost tour guide 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:28.679 in Philadelphia, and we encountered a ghost on our ghost tour. 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:36.920 I give extended ghost tours in Philadelphia. It's about an 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.639 hour tour and they're eight different stops, all from the 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:45.400 colonial period. There's a lot of history to it. We 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.919 don't do flim flammory. We don't set up bluetooth speakers 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.919 that play scary music. We don't have actors pop out. 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:55.640 It's just me doing historical lessons and telling them about hauntings. 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:01.520 Sometimes I use gadgets on the tour. I used to 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.600 bring like an EMF detector or a spirit box, just 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:06.919 to see if they'd do anything, you know, shake it 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:13.120 up a little bit. One night, I'm talking about Alexander Hamilton. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.360 All of a sudden, the spirit box goes off and 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.360 they point, they go, "look the thing turned red." And 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:22.520 I've found that I've been able to convince, I wouldn't 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:26.880 say hardcore skeptics by any means, but people who didn't 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:28.720 believe it and just kind of wanted to see what 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:29.560 the tour was about. 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:40.480 It was October 2021, right before the season really ramped up, 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:44.480 as we were heading deeper into the month towards Halloween. 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:50.120 It was brisk. It was a very small group they 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:55.800 had booked the extended tour. There was an older woman 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.360 in her late forties to early fifties. I'll just call 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:04.360 her Ma. She was tall and thin, kind of reminded 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:08.040 me of Allison Janney. She was nice enough, she really wanted 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.240 to be there. This was for her. Her daughter, who 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.440 was a woman about my age in her mid to 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:17.520 late thirties, blonde, a bit shorter. She didn't want to be there, 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.760 and that's okay, like she had no interest, but she 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:23.960 wasn't disrespectful. And then there was a youngest girl. She 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:24.880 was a teenager. 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.800 They were visiting from Washington, and they got the Philadelphia experience, 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.039 which is you're trying to cross the street and someone 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:36.360 nearly runs you over, and then that car who tries 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:40.080 to run you over yells at you. Welcome to Philadelphia, 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:44.360 was kind of all I could say. 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.159 I'm checking them in and I'm trying to confirm the 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:52.880 extended tour, and then Ma leans in then whispers in 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:58.360 my ear, "You know, I'm a clairvoyant. I can see 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:04.520 spirits around us." Okay, this was unprompted. I'm just kind 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.480 of trying to get all of this done at this point, 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:09.560 and I have stuff I have to say. I have 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.880 things I have to get through. But they were actually 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:17.080 very nice, especially Ma, who really wanted to be there. 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.919 I get through this standard tour and I'm continuing with 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:27.400 the extended tour. I go the extra mile. I bring 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.800 out some equipment. Maybe it works, maybe we hear something 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.120 on the spirit box. Sometimes we don't, and I move on 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.160 and I try to make it interesting one way or 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.600 the other. The middle one, the daughter, was on her 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.680 phone the entire time. She wasn't interested. This wasn't her 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.479 cup of tea. As my gear was going off and 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.440 I got more into the ghost stuff, the teenage daughter 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.360 kind of warmed up to it. She kind of started 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.560 to ask questions. She kind of started to want to 0:05:54.600 --> 0:06:01.159 know about experiences that had happened to me. Part of 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:04.279 being a tour guide is personal experience. They want to 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:08.360 know what we've seen, what we've experienced. I show people 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.599 some orbs in pictures I've taken of a certain locations. 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.559 I talk about times the EMF point a bit nuts, 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.680 when the spirit box had a full conversation with me. 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:25.120 I always work that in. We're walking down Fourth Street, 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:30.000 Philadelphia towards Spruce. Those are very old buildings, and if 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.680 the streets are empty, which they just happen to be, 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.440 there's a lot of echoes, there's a lot of footsteps. 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:40.800 Some footsteps maybe people walking behind us and some not. 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.359 Basically I'm listening for anything, but it looked like just 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:51.000 your average night on Fourth Street. As I'm walking with 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:56.400 my lantern in hand, Ma leans in and she says, "You know, 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:01.640 there's a man following us." The thing I thought was 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:06.400 someone's jumped on. I've had homeless people try to jump on. 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.800 I've had people just visiting locations try to jump on. 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.400 Immediately I turn around, you know, I look for him. 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.640 I don't see anyone. It's just the three and myself. 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:24.680 And she says, "He is wearing jogging attire, he is 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:28.720 bleeding from his forehead and his nose is broken. He 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:32.440 died some time ago. His name is John, and he's 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:38.120 just checking on us." All this is unprompted. Now, I 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:45.240 approach this with skepticism. P.T. Barnum said, if they believe something, 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.600 let them believe it. And that's a paraphrase. 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.960 The thing I noticed about the daughter and the teenage daughter, 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:59.400 neither one of them seems surprised, and they weren't shocked. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:01.920 They just sort of were like, oh well here it 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:07.800 is like very matter of factly. So I said, I 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.720 hope John enjoys the rest of the tour. 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.320 When I got into the Philadelphia market, Stephen was the 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:19.360 only one they're giving tours as such. He was my trainer, 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.120 he was my de facto mentor, so to speak. 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.400 My name is Steve, and I am a ghost tour 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:29.160 guide in the city of Philadelphia. Now I gotta go 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.839 forward a bit to when we're starting an Atlantic City ghost tour. 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:35.360 You know, they were doing a test run and they 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:38.080 wanted me to see how it would look, and you know, 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.320 give my own two cents about it. So I went there. 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:45.880 We're doing a practice and it's me giving Steven a tour. 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:49.440 This time, we complete the tour and we're walking back 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.720 down the board walk. I asked, Hey, has anything ever 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:55.640 happened to you on the tour, like, do you have 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.400 a personal experience? Stephen then goes into his story. 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:07.560 It happened in 2021. I had three young girls in 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:11.960 the early twenties walking with me. I just finished up 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:15.080 the standard tour and I had an extended tour. We're 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.480 on Third and Pine Street. It's kind of like the 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:21.679 older part of Philadelphia. At night they got street lamps 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:26.319 on and on that intersection, it can't get a little noisy. 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.800 I was just wrapping up the tour and this guy 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:34.240 crossing the street came over.He appeared to be in his 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.920 mid twenties. He looked like he was jogging through the 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:44.040 city because he had jogging shorts on and he was sweaty. Initially, 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.520 I thought he may have just been like running and 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.400 it was just kind of crossing paths. But what was 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:53.000 so off putting about him was that as he got closer, 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:57.600 I noticed a big bloody gash on his forehead and 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.960 it looked like there was blood running down his face. 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:06.560 My first reaction was, I thought that this guy got 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.680 into a fight. And then he said, "Oh, don't mind me, 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:14.280 I'm just looking in." It was very casual. Who says that, 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.800 you know? It just was weird, and so my gut 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:21.880 reaction was that this guy was like looking for trouble. Basically, 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.440 I just said, "Oh, I'm sorry, this is a private tour. 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.040 We love you to have you on the next tour, 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:31.719 you know, please check us out. And all he said, and 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.679 he shook his head, was "Oh don't mind me, I'm 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:38.760 just looking in." I'm thinking to myself, if he's on drugs 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.240 or anything like that, because he didn't seem all there. 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.920 So for a three second I turned to the three 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.680 girls and they're looking at the guy, and I turned 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:55.520 back and he vanishes. Boom. He was just gone. I 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.760 look back, and you could tell the girls were kind 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:03.520 of shocked. As I was telling him the story, James 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:06.640 interrupted me and said, wait a minute, that kind of 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.200 sounds like something that happened to me too. 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.960 I turned to him, I said, "Guess what, Stephen, his 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.720 name is John, and he's just looking in on the tour." 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.040 Stephen freaks out at this point, he goes, what are 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.440 you talking about? And I tell him the wholeMa story. 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.640 I see he's visibly freaked out. He goes, "No, you're lying." 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.640 He's like, well, how could that have happened? "Did the 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.680 college girls maybe posted on Reddit and the woman in 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.960 Washington maybe?" But I'm like, Stephen, "What you're trying to 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:39.760 give me as a skeptical explanation makes less sense than 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.120 us having a shared paranormal experience." 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:46.960 What do I think about John? I think that he 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.800 likes to just come back, and I think he really 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.079 does like the tour, So I guess we're doing a 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:52.800 good enough job. 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.760 Mortals kill me. You saw a ghost on the ghost 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:13.160 tour and we're shocked. Surely we expected at least the possibility, 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.480 But I get it, I once did sponsored content for 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:21.280 Glowgarden's Advanced retinoid eye treatment. And yes, even though I 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.880 was hawking it, I did not expect it to tighten 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.560 my under eyes so well, and at a pretty affordable 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:27.400 price point too. 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.360 Don't worry, that wasn't an ad. Glow Garden ended our 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.640 partnership after the surveillance footage from that food court bathroom 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:41.280 got leaked. They dropped the charges though, But if anyone 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.120 from corporate is listening and wants to get back in 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.720 the Therésa business, just email Len at Huntingthepodcast at gmail 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:50.240 dot com. I don't really have under eyes anymore, but 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.719 I still love the gesture. I digress. Point is we're 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:57.319 allowed to be skeptics, but in my opinion, a supernatural 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:00.320 experience is like falling in love. It comes when you 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:01.280 least expect it. 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.520 Right, right, right, or you chase after it obsessively, look 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:08.760 for signs where there are none, finally find it, only 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:10.959 to realize maybe this was a huge mistake, and then 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.880 pay a lawyer to help make it go away. What 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.160 about you, Len, Were you ever in love? 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:18.120 (mumbles) 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.560 You met your wife at a Kenny Chesney concert, that 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:31.440 really checks out. Naomi? Hate to break it to you, 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:40.960 but Phi-Delts Champagne and Shackles probably isn't love. You're right, 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.080 not for me to judge. Hey, how about this, everyone 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.360 sound off in the comments and tell us either where 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.560 you saw your first ghost or where you met your 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:50.959 first love, and later I'll try to guess which one 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:51.320 it was. 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.840 Anyway, so on one side of the spectrum we have James, 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.440 who's looking for ghosts but doesn't always find them, and 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.800 on the other side we have Miranda, who's never looking 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:08.280 but they always seem to find her. 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:14.200 I just got hit with this bad, scary, terror. It 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.920 was just like, ugh, I gotta go. I gotta get out . 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.720 That's the only car there. It's raining, it's nasty, it's 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:26.040 pulled out, and I look over across from me. All 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.560 the plumps are empty, but there's a light. It's just 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.040 flickering above the plump directly across from me. And I 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.600 was like, nope, I gotta go. 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.520 My name's Miranda. I'm kind of like that kid from 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:42.160 the Sixth Sense, except I don't see dead people, I 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:45.520 feel them. 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:49.560 I lived in Columbus, Georgia in college, and it's known 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.240 for being a haunted city. There were battlefields and battles 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.880 there during the Civil War, so it's you know, the 0:14:55.920 --> 0:15:02.400 stereotypical old timey ghosts that hang out there. I lived 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.960 in a one hundred and two year old house, and I would 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:10.320 notice things from time to time. I felt presences. It 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.440 wasn't one thing that I felt constantly each time it's 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:15.200 a little different. 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:18.280 Sometimes you walk into a room and that room would 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.680 be ice cold, you could see your breath, and it's summer. 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.960 Some days my dogs would get all spoofed, and my 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:29.240 dog was growling at me. She wasn't staring at me. 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.960 It was like she was staring behind me and just 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:37.440 like looking through me, growling, which is particularly spooky. And then 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.560 I had this one really awful experience. 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.400 I was getting ready to go somewhere and I'm doing 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:56.120 my hair and I hear this bang. They'd been doing 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.640 work near my house, so I just figured, Okay, it's 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:03.520 like seven pm., why are they still doing in construction? Just like bang, bang, bang. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:10.400 It kept getting louder and closer, so loud you can 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.280 feel the vibration. It sounded like it was on my 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:14.040 roof just. 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.200 And I was trying to ignore it blow during my hair. 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.920 And then I heard my side door. 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.440 Open and footsteps. 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.640 It sounded like something ran from my side door through 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.680 my kitchen. Oh god, oh no, someone's in my house. 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.840 I just immediately freaked out, threw a blow dryer down, 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:44.080 didn't have on shoes. 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:44.800 I was like, I'm. 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.040 Getting out of here right now. It's all like someone 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.400 just broke in my house. So I go to run 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.000 out the front door, and the chain lock was locked. 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:55.920 I'd never locked that chain lock in my whole life. 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:57.680 I was like, oh god, oh god. 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:00.000 I threw it a front door. 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.280 I ran out, got in my car, and I drove 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:10.119 two blocks away and I called the cops. They came 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.080 and they checked out my house. No signs of forced entry, 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:18.000 nothing was touched. I was just scared out of my mind. 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:23.439 I definitely sensed something. It was a really bad feeling. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:27.000 Most times whatever I'm sensing is not very ominous, but 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.040 this one was terror. I feel like it wants to 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:32.480 kill me or hurt me. I don't want to be here, 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.359 like it was really scary. 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.600 I had a friend in college and he said, oh, 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:42.240 your house is a portal for spirits. So he came 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:46.040 over and he brought some salt. He sprinkled it around 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.200 like my door frames and burned some sage and said 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:51.560 some stuff. I lived in that house for three years 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:53.439 and I didn't have any problems after that. 0:17:56.280 --> 0:18:00.560 I worked in a trauma center. We had six trauma 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:04.480 base and trauma four was the biggest room, so that's 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.240 where all patients that were in the worst shape would 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.280 go because there's gonna be like twenty people in the 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:11.680 room trying to save lives as quickly as possible. 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.560 And in trauma four the lights would do this thing where 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.439 they would flicker, and a lot of people died in 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:20.520 frauma four. When the light would flicker, then they sayto 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:23.240 my coworkers, I'd be like, "oh, oh, guys, they're here. 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.480 Looks like whoever's coming trauma four is gonna die." 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.679 They all me like spooky, Miranda, like stop it, that's weird. 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.040 Like I'm just letting you know that I send it. 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:35.679 I'm not trying to be spooky. I'm just letting you 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:36.680 know they're here. 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:41.240 Every time I've sent something or seen that flickering light, 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.560 it's either somebody's gonna die. 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:46.760 Or somebody just die. 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.080 Even if I'm alone with the patient and they're about 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.040 to die, it feels like it's more than just me 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:54.480 and that one person there. 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.920 It feels like there's something else there. 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:01.520 Thank God, I. 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.400 Can't see whatever I'm sensing. If I could see it, 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:07.119 I would lose it. It already creeps me out one 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:08.680 hundred percent of the time. Every time. 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.600 I've seen people live that should have died, and I've 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:14.240 seen people die that should have lived, and there's not 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:14.600 a lot of. 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:15.320 Rhyme or reason. 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:21.680 One that I specifically remember was really bad. This person's young, 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:23.840 they have no health problems, but I have just like 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:28.720 an overwhelmingly bad feeling. And I said, something's wrong. They're 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:32.280 gonna die, and they're like, oh no. Their oxygen's saturation 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.000 was really good. It was like ninety nine percent the 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:36.760 best you can get to the hundred. And they're like, 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:39.160 it's fine, and I was like, it's not fine. And 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:44.760 then the lights flickered and they did end up dying. 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:48.359 There's a lot of lights in the room, but the 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:50.760 one flickering in the trouba room was the one that's 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:55.640 right over the patient bed. I have happened in ambulances 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:58.399 where the lights have flickered but I don't know it's landing, 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:02.439 just like, oh, something else is here. We had someone 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:06.119 that had been shot a bunch of times that was 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.639 already a losing battle. It was just too much. But 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:13.280 I definitely since that one too. There's always one light 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:17.240 right over the patient, and that's the one flickering. I 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.760 mean sure from a scientific sampoy the light flicker maybe. 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:24.560 Just bad wiring, but it's kind of coincidental and it's 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:26.160 only at certain times. 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:28.679 But I have noticed it in the trauma bay, I 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:32.680 noticed it in the ambulance, and then most recently, I. 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:39.760 Noticed it at the gas station. It was kind of 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:41.960 cold and rainy, and I was running late to work. 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:44.960 I don't have enough gasket to work, okay, So I 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:46.919 stopped at the gas station. I don't normally go to, 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:51.520 oh my gas, and all of a sudden, I got 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:55.119 this overwhelmingly bad feeling, just like a punch you and 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:58.480 you're kind of bad feeling. The first thing I did, 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:02.800 of course, was just look around, is somebody here? There's 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:06.359 nobody there, nothing going on, no other cars but mine, 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:08.680 and all the pumps are empty. But there's a light 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:13.920 above the pump directly across from me, flickering. I was like, nope, 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:15.440 I gotta leave, and. 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:17.560 I got out of their fronto. 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:24.280 It was just such a weird, bad feeling, and I 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:27.959 haven't felt a feeling that weird or overwhelmingly bad sense, 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:33.640 whatever it was, it felt. 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:35.320 Like someone was murdered there. 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:38.960 The next morning, I was getting ready for work and 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:42.120 I googled it and. 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.880 I with one hundred percent freaked out. 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:50.399 A few years back, a man's pumping gas at that 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:54.399 gas station and in the broad daylight, some guy in 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:57.320 a scream mask gets out and goes to rob the guy. 0:21:58.440 --> 0:21:59.919 The guy but the pump was like. 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:02.840 Okay, well here's myself take a goat, and the guy 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:06.480 in the screen mask just shot him dead. Anyway, the 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:11.320 guy that was Killba's pretty young name was Kenneth. One 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.920 hundred percent think for that was him being like, get 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:18.000 out of this place. It's bad, it's dangerous. This gift 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:22.000 that I have, I don't want it, honestly, it's creepy 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:33.120 and I wish they would just leave me alone. 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:39.679 Oh I hear you, Miranda, but I'd give anything to 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:42.480 run into someone like you, or even better, that freaky 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:44.560 little kid from the sixth sense who could actually see 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:48.399 dead people. Do you know how frustrating it is to 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:51.640 not be perceived? I haven't gone this unnoticed since before 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:55.359 my first nose job. It's almost like if it weren't 0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:59.280 for this podcast, that would just be no one drifting 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:03.000 through the inbetween mustering all my strength to fiddle a 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:06.200 light here and there. And for what the rest of eternity? 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:10.200 But let's get into the comments, huh! Reminder, the game 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:15.399 is first ghost spotting or first love! Okay, dog park. Easy, 0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:20.560 first love. My grandparents' attic. Hopefully first ghost. The bar 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:23.840 at the Standard Hotel. Love. The bar at the Culver Hotel, 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.960 ghost obvi. My high school. Hmmm, could go either way. 0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:35.320 I'm gonna say love. McDonald's play place. Ooh, ghost. Love 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:39.639 Shack Fancy sample sale. Huh. Ghost, probably me. Backstage at 0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:44.240 a B52s concert. Ghost. Open secret, the B52s are all ghosts. 0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:47.760 Okay, Well, I think that's a good one to end on. 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.240 I've got to get to a meeting with my caseworker, Sharon. 0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:52.679 I don't want to jinx it, but I've been feeling 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.919 pretty good about my unfinished business lately, so don't be 0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.560 shocked if there's no new episode next week. Just know 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:01.480 if I'm not here, I'll be vibing behind the pearly gates. 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:02.560 (mumbles) 0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:07.920 kay, Okay, if you're a loved one has a supernatural 0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:10.560 experience to share, reach out to Len at HauntingThePodcast@gmail.com and 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:13.440 you can be featured on a future episode. 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