1 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:23,439 Therésa: Hello, my angels or devils, demons, mortals, reanimated ectoplasm, however 2 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,480 Therésa: you identify. Welcome back to another episode of Haunting. 3 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,240 Therésa: We're running into a little problem here at Haunting HQ 4 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,080 Therésa: that I'm not entirely unfamiliar with. We're generating too much 5 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,960 Therésa: at revenue. We're not sure how to spend it. All 6 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,160 Therésa: material goods are of no use to me here, hence 7 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,360 Therésa: the reworking of my entire brand. So we're in a 8 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,600 Therésa: little bit of a "financial pickle," as my dad's tax 9 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,440 Therésa: fraud attorney used to put it, different sides of the 10 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,920 Therésa: same coin, though we're flush, whereas he was basically doing 11 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,760 Therésa: dishes for the IRS. 12 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:04,520 Therésa: AnyWho, I had the idea to donate our proceeds to charity. 13 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:05,000 Len: (mumbles) 14 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,400 Therésa: Okay? Len and I had the idea to donate our 15 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,679 Therésa: proceeds to charity. Len pitched the American Cancer Society, but 16 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,040 Therésa: I was thinking Camp Conflict, which is a summer program 17 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,640 Therésa: I funded Maine where we manufacture safe adverse experiences for 18 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,279 Therésa: privileged teens so they have something to write their college 19 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,360 Therésa: essays about. It's helped a lot of deserving kids get 20 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,679 Therésa: into bottom tier ivys. 21 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,480 Therésa: So while Naomi prepares the oversized check, we'll meet James 22 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,919 Therésa: from Philadelphia, who guides a ghost tour through the city 23 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,360 Therésa: where he and his group - Honestly, you can probably guess. 24 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,360 Story A: I work with Stephen DeMarco, another ghost tour guide. He's 25 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,440 Story A: my de facto mentor. Stephen's telling me this story. He 26 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,600 Story A: had three college girls. They had booked the extended tour. 27 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,400 Story A: One of them screams, "He disappeared! You didn't see that? 28 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,000 Story A: He disappeared! You were just talking to him, and now 29 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,400 Story A: he's gone." They're scared to death because they just watched 30 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:12,000 Story A: a man disappear in front of him. Spirits are here. 31 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,280 Story A: I don't know why, but they're here, and I'm all 32 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:20,440 Story A: for skepticism, but there are many things that can't be explained. 33 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,640 Story A: My name is James. I am a ghost tour guide 34 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,679 Story A: in Philadelphia, and we encountered a ghost on our ghost tour. 35 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,920 Story A: I give extended ghost tours in Philadelphia. It's about an 36 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,639 Story A: hour tour and they're eight different stops, all from the 37 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,400 Story A: colonial period. There's a lot of history to it. We 38 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,919 Story A: don't do flim flammory. We don't set up bluetooth speakers 39 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,919 Story A: that play scary music. We don't have actors pop out. 40 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,640 Story A: It's just me doing historical lessons and telling them about hauntings. 41 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,520 Story A: Sometimes I use gadgets on the tour. I used to 42 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,600 Story A: bring like an EMF detector or a spirit box, just 43 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,919 Story A: to see if they'd do anything, you know, shake it 44 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:13,120 Story A: up a little bit. One night, I'm talking about Alexander Hamilton. 45 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,360 Story A: All of a sudden, the spirit box goes off and 46 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,360 Story A: they point, they go, "look the thing turned red." And 47 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,520 Story A: I've found that I've been able to convince, I wouldn't 48 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,880 Story A: say hardcore skeptics by any means, but people who didn't 49 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,720 Story A: believe it and just kind of wanted to see what 50 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:29,560 Story A: the tour was about. 51 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,480 Story A: It was October 2021, right before the season really ramped up, 52 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,480 Story A: as we were heading deeper into the month towards Halloween. 53 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,120 Story A: It was brisk. It was a very small group they 54 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:55,800 Story A: had booked the extended tour. There was an older woman 55 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,360 Story A: in her late forties to early fifties. I'll just call 56 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,360 Story A: her Ma. She was tall and thin, kind of reminded 57 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,040 Story A: me of Allison Janney. She was nice enough, she really wanted 58 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,240 Story A: to be there. This was for her. Her daughter, who 59 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,440 Story A: was a woman about my age in her mid to 60 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,520 Story A: late thirties, blonde, a bit shorter. She didn't want to be there, 61 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,760 Story A: and that's okay, like she had no interest, but she 62 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,960 Story A: wasn't disrespectful. And then there was a youngest girl. She 63 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:24,880 Story A: was a teenager. 64 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,800 Story A: They were visiting from Washington, and they got the Philadelphia experience, 65 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,039 Story A: which is you're trying to cross the street and someone 66 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,360 Story A: nearly runs you over, and then that car who tries 67 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,080 Story A: to run you over yells at you. Welcome to Philadelphia, 68 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,360 Story A: was kind of all I could say. 69 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,159 Story A: I'm checking them in and I'm trying to confirm the 70 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,880 Story A: extended tour, and then Ma leans in then whispers in 71 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:58,360 Story A: my ear, "You know, I'm a clairvoyant. I can see 72 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:04,520 Story A: spirits around us." Okay, this was unprompted. I'm just kind 73 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,480 Story A: of trying to get all of this done at this point, 74 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,560 Story A: and I have stuff I have to say. I have 75 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,880 Story A: things I have to get through. But they were actually 76 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,080 Story A: very nice, especially Ma, who really wanted to be there. 77 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,919 Story A: I get through this standard tour and I'm continuing with 78 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,400 Story A: the extended tour. I go the extra mile. I bring 79 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,800 Story A: out some equipment. Maybe it works, maybe we hear something 80 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,120 Story A: on the spirit box. Sometimes we don't, and I move on 81 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,160 Story A: and I try to make it interesting one way or 82 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,600 Story A: the other. The middle one, the daughter, was on her 83 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,680 Story A: phone the entire time. She wasn't interested. This wasn't her 84 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,479 Story A: cup of tea. As my gear was going off and 85 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,440 Story A: I got more into the ghost stuff, the teenage daughter 86 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,360 Story A: kind of warmed up to it. She kind of started 87 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,560 Story A: to ask questions. She kind of started to want to 88 00:05:54,600 --> 00:06:01,159 Story A: know about experiences that had happened to me. Part of 89 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,279 Story A: being a tour guide is personal experience. They want to 90 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,360 Story A: know what we've seen, what we've experienced. I show people 91 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,599 Story A: some orbs in pictures I've taken of a certain locations. 92 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,559 Story A: I talk about times the EMF point a bit nuts, 93 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,680 Story A: when the spirit box had a full conversation with me. 94 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:25,120 Story A: I always work that in. We're walking down Fourth Street, 95 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:30,000 Story A: Philadelphia towards Spruce. Those are very old buildings, and if 96 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,680 Story A: the streets are empty, which they just happen to be, 97 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,440 Story A: there's a lot of echoes, there's a lot of footsteps. 98 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,800 Story A: Some footsteps maybe people walking behind us and some not. 99 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,359 Story A: Basically I'm listening for anything, but it looked like just 100 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:51,000 Story A: your average night on Fourth Street. As I'm walking with 101 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:56,400 Story A: my lantern in hand, Ma leans in and she says, "You know, 102 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,640 Story A: there's a man following us." The thing I thought was 103 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:06,400 Story A: someone's jumped on. I've had homeless people try to jump on. 104 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,800 Story A: I've had people just visiting locations try to jump on. 105 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,400 Story A: Immediately I turn around, you know, I look for him. 106 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,640 Story A: I don't see anyone. It's just the three and myself. 107 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:24,680 Story A: And she says, "He is wearing jogging attire, he is 108 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,720 Story A: bleeding from his forehead and his nose is broken. He 109 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,440 Story A: died some time ago. His name is John, and he's 110 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:38,120 Story A: just checking on us." All this is unprompted. Now, I 111 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:45,240 Story A: approach this with skepticism. P.T. Barnum said, if they believe something, 112 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,600 Story A: let them believe it. And that's a paraphrase. 113 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,960 Story A: The thing I noticed about the daughter and the teenage daughter, 114 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,400 Story A: neither one of them seems surprised, and they weren't shocked. 115 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,920 Story A: They just sort of were like, oh well here it 116 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:07,800 Story A: is like very matter of factly. So I said, I 117 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,720 Story A: hope John enjoys the rest of the tour. 118 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,320 Story A: When I got into the Philadelphia market, Stephen was the 119 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,360 Story A: only one they're giving tours as such. He was my trainer, 120 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,120 Story A: he was my de facto mentor, so to speak. 121 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,400 Story A: My name is Steve, and I am a ghost tour 122 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,160 Story A: guide in the city of Philadelphia. Now I gotta go 123 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,839 Story A: forward a bit to when we're starting an Atlantic City ghost tour. 124 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,360 Story A: You know, they were doing a test run and they 125 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,080 Story A: wanted me to see how it would look, and you know, 126 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,320 Story A: give my own two cents about it. So I went there. 127 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,880 Story A: We're doing a practice and it's me giving Steven a tour. 128 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,440 Story A: This time, we complete the tour and we're walking back 129 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,720 Story A: down the board walk. I asked, Hey, has anything ever 130 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,640 Story A: happened to you on the tour, like, do you have 131 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,400 Story A: a personal experience? Stephen then goes into his story. 132 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:07,560 Story A: It happened in 2021. I had three young girls in 133 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,960 Story A: the early twenties walking with me. I just finished up 134 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,080 Story A: the standard tour and I had an extended tour. We're 135 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,480 Story A: on Third and Pine Street. It's kind of like the 136 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,679 Story A: older part of Philadelphia. At night they got street lamps 137 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,319 Story A: on and on that intersection, it can't get a little noisy. 138 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,800 Story A: I was just wrapping up the tour and this guy 139 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,240 Story A: crossing the street came over.He appeared to be in his 140 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,920 Story A: mid twenties. He looked like he was jogging through the 141 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:44,040 Story A: city because he had jogging shorts on and he was sweaty. Initially, 142 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,520 Story A: I thought he may have just been like running and 143 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,400 Story A: it was just kind of crossing paths. But what was 144 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,000 Story A: so off putting about him was that as he got closer, 145 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,600 Story A: I noticed a big bloody gash on his forehead and 146 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,960 Story A: it looked like there was blood running down his face. 147 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,560 Story A: My first reaction was, I thought that this guy got 148 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,680 Story A: into a fight. And then he said, "Oh, don't mind me, 149 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:14,280 Story A: I'm just looking in." It was very casual. Who says that, 150 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,800 Story A: you know? It just was weird, and so my gut 151 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,880 Story A: reaction was that this guy was like looking for trouble. Basically, 152 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,440 Story A: I just said, "Oh, I'm sorry, this is a private tour. 153 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,040 Story A: We love you to have you on the next tour, 154 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,719 Story A: you know, please check us out. And all he said, and 155 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,679 Story A: he shook his head, was "Oh don't mind me, I'm 156 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,760 Story A: just looking in." I'm thinking to myself, if he's on drugs 157 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,240 Story A: or anything like that, because he didn't seem all there. 158 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,920 Story A: So for a three second I turned to the three 159 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,680 Story A: girls and they're looking at the guy, and I turned 160 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:55,520 Story A: back and he vanishes. Boom. He was just gone. I 161 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,760 Story A: look back, and you could tell the girls were kind 162 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:03,520 Story A: of shocked. As I was telling him the story, James 163 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,640 Story A: interrupted me and said, wait a minute, that kind of 164 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,200 Story A: sounds like something that happened to me too. 165 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,960 Story A: I turned to him, I said, "Guess what, Stephen, his 166 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,720 Story A: name is John, and he's just looking in on the tour." 167 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,040 Story A: Stephen freaks out at this point, he goes, what are 168 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,440 Story A: you talking about? And I tell him the wholeMa story. 169 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,640 Story A: I see he's visibly freaked out. He goes, "No, you're lying." 170 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,640 Story A: He's like, well, how could that have happened? "Did the 171 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,680 Story A: college girls maybe posted on Reddit and the woman in 172 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,960 Story A: Washington maybe?" But I'm like, Stephen, "What you're trying to 173 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:39,760 Story A: give me as a skeptical explanation makes less sense than 174 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,120 Story A: us having a shared paranormal experience." 175 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,960 Story A: What do I think about John? I think that he 176 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,800 Story A: likes to just come back, and I think he really 177 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,079 Story A: does like the tour, So I guess we're doing a 178 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:52,800 Story A: good enough job. 179 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,760 Therésa: Mortals kill me. You saw a ghost on the ghost 180 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:13,160 Therésa: tour and we're shocked. Surely we expected at least the possibility, 181 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,480 Therésa: But I get it, I once did sponsored content for 182 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,280 Therésa: Glowgarden's Advanced retinoid eye treatment. And yes, even though I 183 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,880 Therésa: was hawking it, I did not expect it to tighten 184 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,560 Therésa: my under eyes so well, and at a pretty affordable 185 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,400 Therésa: price point too. 186 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,360 Therésa: Don't worry, that wasn't an ad. Glow Garden ended our 187 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,640 Therésa: partnership after the surveillance footage from that food court bathroom 188 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:41,280 Therésa: got leaked. They dropped the charges though, But if anyone 189 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,120 Therésa: from corporate is listening and wants to get back in 190 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,720 Therésa: the Therésa business, just email Len at Huntingthepodcast at gmail 191 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,240 Therésa: dot com. I don't really have under eyes anymore, but 192 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,719 Therésa: I still love the gesture. I digress. Point is we're 193 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,319 Therésa: allowed to be skeptics, but in my opinion, a supernatural 194 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,320 Therésa: experience is like falling in love. It comes when you 195 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:01,280 Therésa: least expect it. 196 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,520 Therésa: Right, right, right, or you chase after it obsessively, look 197 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,760 Therésa: for signs where there are none, finally find it, only 198 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,959 Therésa: to realize maybe this was a huge mistake, and then 199 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,880 Therésa: pay a lawyer to help make it go away. What 200 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,160 Therésa: about you, Len, Were you ever in love? 201 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,120 Len: (mumbles) 202 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,560 Therésa: You met your wife at a Kenny Chesney concert, that 203 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:31,440 Therésa: really checks out. Naomi? Hate to break it to you, 204 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:40,960 Therésa: but Phi-Delts Champagne and Shackles probably isn't love. You're right, 205 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,080 Therésa: not for me to judge. Hey, how about this, everyone 206 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,360 Therésa: sound off in the comments and tell us either where 207 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,560 Therésa: you saw your first ghost or where you met your 208 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,959 Therésa: first love, and later I'll try to guess which one 209 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:51,320 Therésa: it was. 210 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,840 Therésa: Anyway, so on one side of the spectrum we have James, 211 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,440 Therésa: who's looking for ghosts but doesn't always find them, and 212 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,800 Therésa: on the other side we have Miranda, who's never looking 213 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:08,280 Therésa: but they always seem to find her. 214 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:14,200 Story B: I just got hit with this bad, scary, terror. It 215 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,920 Story B: was just like, ugh, I gotta go. I gotta get out . 216 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,720 Story B: That's the only car there. It's raining, it's nasty, it's 217 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:26,040 Story B: pulled out, and I look over across from me. All 218 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,560 Story B: the plumps are empty, but there's a light. It's just 219 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,040 Story B: flickering above the plump directly across from me. And I 220 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,600 Story B: was like, nope, I gotta go. 221 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,520 Story B: My name's Miranda. I'm kind of like that kid from 222 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,160 Story B: the Sixth Sense, except I don't see dead people, I 223 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,520 Story B: feel them. 224 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,560 Story B: I lived in Columbus, Georgia in college, and it's known 225 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,240 Story B: for being a haunted city. There were battlefields and battles 226 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,880 Story B: there during the Civil War, so it's you know, the 227 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:02,400 Story B: stereotypical old timey ghosts that hang out there. I lived 228 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,960 Story B: in a one hundred and two year old house, and I would 229 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:10,320 Story B: notice things from time to time. I felt presences. It 230 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,440 Story B: wasn't one thing that I felt constantly each time it's 231 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:15,200 Story B: a little different. 232 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,280 Story B: Sometimes you walk into a room and that room would 233 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,680 Story B: be ice cold, you could see your breath, and it's summer. 234 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,960 Story B: Some days my dogs would get all spoofed, and my 235 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:29,240 Story B: dog was growling at me. She wasn't staring at me. 236 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,960 Story B: It was like she was staring behind me and just 237 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:37,440 Story B: like looking through me, growling, which is particularly spooky. And then 238 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,560 Story B: I had this one really awful experience. 239 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,400 Story B: I was getting ready to go somewhere and I'm doing 240 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:56,120 Story B: my hair and I hear this bang. They'd been doing 241 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,640 Story B: work near my house, so I just figured, Okay, it's 242 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:03,520 Story B: like seven pm., why are they still doing in construction? Just like bang, bang, bang. 243 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:10,400 Story B: It kept getting louder and closer, so loud you can 244 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,280 Story B: feel the vibration. It sounded like it was on my 245 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:14,040 Story B: roof just. 246 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,200 Story B: And I was trying to ignore it blow during my hair. 247 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,920 Story B: And then I heard my side door. 248 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,440 Story B: Open and footsteps. 249 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,640 Story B: It sounded like something ran from my side door through 250 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,680 Story B: my kitchen. Oh god, oh no, someone's in my house. 251 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,840 Story B: I just immediately freaked out, threw a blow dryer down, 252 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,080 Story B: didn't have on shoes. 253 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:44,800 Story B: I was like, I'm. 254 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,040 Story B: Getting out of here right now. It's all like someone 255 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,400 Story B: just broke in my house. So I go to run 256 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,000 Story B: out the front door, and the chain lock was locked. 257 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,920 Story B: I'd never locked that chain lock in my whole life. 258 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,680 Story B: I was like, oh god, oh god. 259 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,000 Story B: I threw it a front door. 260 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,280 Story B: I ran out, got in my car, and I drove 261 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:10,119 Story B: two blocks away and I called the cops. They came 262 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,080 Story B: and they checked out my house. No signs of forced entry, 263 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,000 Story B: nothing was touched. I was just scared out of my mind. 264 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,439 Story B: I definitely sensed something. It was a really bad feeling. 265 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,000 Story B: Most times whatever I'm sensing is not very ominous, but 266 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,040 Story B: this one was terror. I feel like it wants to 267 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,480 Story B: kill me or hurt me. I don't want to be here, 268 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,359 Story B: like it was really scary. 269 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,600 Story B: I had a friend in college and he said, oh, 270 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,240 Story B: your house is a portal for spirits. So he came 271 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,040 Story B: over and he brought some salt. He sprinkled it around 272 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,200 Story B: like my door frames and burned some sage and said 273 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,560 Story B: some stuff. I lived in that house for three years 274 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,439 Story B: and I didn't have any problems after that. 275 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:00,560 Story B: I worked in a trauma center. We had six trauma 276 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,480 Story B: base and trauma four was the biggest room, so that's 277 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,240 Story B: where all patients that were in the worst shape would 278 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,280 Story B: go because there's gonna be like twenty people in the 279 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,680 Story B: room trying to save lives as quickly as possible. 280 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,560 Story B: And in trauma four the lights would do this thing where 281 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,439 Story B: they would flicker, and a lot of people died in 282 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,520 Story B: frauma four. When the light would flicker, then they sayto 283 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,240 Story B: my coworkers, I'd be like, "oh, oh, guys, they're here. 284 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,480 Story B: Looks like whoever's coming trauma four is gonna die." 285 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,679 Story B: They all me like spooky, Miranda, like stop it, that's weird. 286 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,040 Story B: Like I'm just letting you know that I send it. 287 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,679 Story B: I'm not trying to be spooky. I'm just letting you 288 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:36,680 Story B: know they're here. 289 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,240 Story B: Every time I've sent something or seen that flickering light, 290 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,560 Story B: it's either somebody's gonna die. 291 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,760 Story B: Or somebody just die. 292 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,080 Story B: Even if I'm alone with the patient and they're about 293 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,040 Story B: to die, it feels like it's more than just me 294 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,480 Story B: and that one person there. 295 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,920 Story B: It feels like there's something else there. 296 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:01,520 Story B: Thank God, I. 297 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,400 Story B: Can't see whatever I'm sensing. If I could see it, 298 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,119 Story B: I would lose it. It already creeps me out one 299 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,680 Story B: hundred percent of the time. Every time. 300 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,600 Story B: I've seen people live that should have died, and I've 301 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,240 Story B: seen people die that should have lived, and there's not 302 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:14,600 Story B: a lot of. 303 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:15,320 Story B: Rhyme or reason. 304 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:21,680 Story B: One that I specifically remember was really bad. This person's young, 305 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,840 Story B: they have no health problems, but I have just like 306 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:28,720 Story B: an overwhelmingly bad feeling. And I said, something's wrong. They're 307 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,280 Story B: gonna die, and they're like, oh no. Their oxygen's saturation 308 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,000 Story B: was really good. It was like ninety nine percent the 309 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,760 Story B: best you can get to the hundred. And they're like, 310 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,160 Story B: it's fine, and I was like, it's not fine. And 311 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:44,760 Story B: then the lights flickered and they did end up dying. 312 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,359 Story B: There's a lot of lights in the room, but the 313 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,760 Story B: one flickering in the trouba room was the one that's 314 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,640 Story B: right over the patient bed. I have happened in ambulances 315 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,399 Story B: where the lights have flickered but I don't know it's landing, 316 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,439 Story B: just like, oh, something else is here. We had someone 317 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,119 Story B: that had been shot a bunch of times that was 318 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,639 Story B: already a losing battle. It was just too much. But 319 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,280 Story B: I definitely since that one too. There's always one light 320 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,240 Story B: right over the patient, and that's the one flickering. I 321 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,760 Story B: mean sure from a scientific sampoy the light flicker maybe. 322 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,560 Story B: Just bad wiring, but it's kind of coincidental and it's 323 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,160 Story B: only at certain times. 324 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,679 Story B: But I have noticed it in the trauma bay, I 325 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,680 Story B: noticed it in the ambulance, and then most recently, I. 326 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:39,760 Story B: Noticed it at the gas station. It was kind of 327 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,960 Story B: cold and rainy, and I was running late to work. 328 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,960 Story B: I don't have enough gasket to work, okay, So I 329 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,919 Story B: stopped at the gas station. I don't normally go to, 330 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,520 Story B: oh my gas, and all of a sudden, I got 331 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,119 Story B: this overwhelmingly bad feeling, just like a punch you and 332 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,480 Story B: you're kind of bad feeling. The first thing I did, 333 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,800 Story B: of course, was just look around, is somebody here? There's 334 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,359 Story B: nobody there, nothing going on, no other cars but mine, 335 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,680 Story B: and all the pumps are empty. But there's a light 336 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,920 Story B: above the pump directly across from me, flickering. I was like, nope, 337 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,440 Story B: I gotta leave, and. 338 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,560 Story B: I got out of their fronto. 339 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,280 Story B: It was just such a weird, bad feeling, and I 340 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,959 Story B: haven't felt a feeling that weird or overwhelmingly bad sense, 341 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,640 Story B: whatever it was, it felt. 342 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,320 Story B: Like someone was murdered there. 343 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,960 Story B: The next morning, I was getting ready for work and 344 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,120 Story B: I googled it and. 345 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,880 Story B: I with one hundred percent freaked out. 346 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,399 Story B: A few years back, a man's pumping gas at that 347 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,399 Story B: gas station and in the broad daylight, some guy in 348 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,320 Story B: a scream mask gets out and goes to rob the guy. 349 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,919 Story B: The guy but the pump was like. 350 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,840 Story B: Okay, well here's myself take a goat, and the guy 351 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,480 Story B: in the screen mask just shot him dead. Anyway, the 352 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:11,320 Story B: guy that was Killba's pretty young name was Kenneth. One 353 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,920 Story B: hundred percent think for that was him being like, get 354 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,000 Story B: out of this place. It's bad, it's dangerous. This gift 355 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,000 Story B: that I have, I don't want it, honestly, it's creepy 356 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:33,120 Story B: and I wish they would just leave me alone. 357 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,679 Therésa: Oh I hear you, Miranda, but I'd give anything to 358 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,480 Therésa: run into someone like you, or even better, that freaky 359 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,560 Therésa: little kid from the sixth sense who could actually see 360 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,399 Therésa: dead people. Do you know how frustrating it is to 361 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,640 Therésa: not be perceived? I haven't gone this unnoticed since before 362 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,359 Therésa: my first nose job. It's almost like if it weren't 363 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,280 Therésa: for this podcast, that would just be no one drifting 364 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,000 Therésa: through the inbetween mustering all my strength to fiddle a 365 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,200 Therésa: light here and there. And for what the rest of eternity? 366 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,200 Therésa: But let's get into the comments, huh! Reminder, the game 367 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:15,399 Therésa: is first ghost spotting or first love! Okay, dog park. Easy, 368 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:20,560 Therésa: first love. My grandparents' attic. Hopefully first ghost. The bar 369 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,840 Therésa: at the Standard Hotel. Love. The bar at the Culver Hotel, 370 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,960 Therésa: ghost obvi. My high school. Hmmm, could go either way. 371 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:35,320 Therésa: I'm gonna say love. McDonald's play place. Ooh, ghost. Love 372 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,639 Therésa: Shack Fancy sample sale. Huh. Ghost, probably me. Backstage at 373 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:44,240 Therésa: a B52s concert. Ghost. Open secret, the B52s are all ghosts. 374 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,760 Therésa: Okay, Well, I think that's a good one to end on. 375 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,240 Therésa: I've got to get to a meeting with my caseworker, Sharon. 376 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,679 Therésa: I don't want to jinx it, but I've been feeling 377 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,919 Therésa: pretty good about my unfinished business lately, so don't be 378 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,560 Therésa: shocked if there's no new episode next week. Just know 379 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,480 Therésa: if I'm not here, I'll be vibing behind the pearly gates. 380 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:02,560 Len: (mumbles) 381 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,920 Therésa: kay, Okay, if you're a loved one has a supernatural 382 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,560 Therésa: experience to share, reach out to Len at HauntingThePodcast@gmail.com and 383 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,440 Therésa: you can be featured on a future episode. Happy Len? 384 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:14,840 Therésa: (mumbles) 385 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,240 Therésa: Okay, love you all Haunting fam, Kisses kisses, see you next 386 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,560 Therésa: time or not wish me luck. 387 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,600 Credits: If you have a Haunting story to share, please email 388 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,639 Credits: us at HauntingThePodcast@gmail.com. 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