1 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Ron and Anien. So I assume you're will put this 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: battery and with no complications. Replacing the battery in his 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: car was it was quite an interesting I found about 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: two dollars of nickels and dimes in the back of 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: the car would terrify his fare a tire The car doctor, 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: why did you replace the engine? What failed in the 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: old owner? How did the old one fail? According to 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: the mechanic, it uh, it just blew blew up. Welcome 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: to the radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor. 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 12 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: call in the garage doors are open, but I am 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: here to take your call at eight five and now 15 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: he running. Hey, it's time to start your engines along. 16 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: Welcome Ron in any of the car doctor here at 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: The Car Doctor seven phone number once again eight five 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Give us 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: a call. Let's talk about your car and it's problem. 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: Don't live with it, Let's fix it, Let's let's get 22 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: it safe going down the road and you'll enjoy it 23 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: that much more. That's what we're gonna do for the 24 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: next two hours, an hour at a time, and um, 25 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: that's what we like to do. We're here. Also, that 26 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: phone number is seven. You can call the eight five 27 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine zero zero phone number and 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: leave a message. Tom Ray, our executive producer, will get 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: you in the queue and talk to you about your 30 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: car problem and get you up here for a live 31 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: radio which is I know some of you are afraid 32 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: to do it. Trust me, it's not bad. Listen. If 33 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: I can do it, anybody can do it. And we're 34 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: just here trying to make it so that, you know, 35 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: more people get educated and we're all just trying to 36 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: get an education about fixing cars. That's what this radio 37 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: show is and has been about the past twenty seven 38 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: going on twenty eight years. I think, yeah, something like that. 39 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: I ran out of toes, so I can't count anymore. Um, 40 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, fingers and toes on past that point. So 41 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: after twenty it was hard. But them in any event, 42 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: lots of do this hour, lots of talk about but 43 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: let's kick the garage doors wide open right away, and 44 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: let's go talk to Steve Lacrosse, Wisconsin and see what's 45 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: going on with this. Oh three g mc steve grow 46 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: out with the car doctor, sir, how can I help? Hey? 47 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call. I've owned the car the 48 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 1: truck since oh eight, and it hasn't given me any 49 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: a problem. It's been wonderful. Uh really, right off the 50 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: gate when I got it, it always seemed to have 51 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of a poll going from first a second. 52 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: I just said, well, every truck's got it, it's character defects. 53 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: I never gave it a thought. Well this last year 54 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: my son told me, oh, Dad, that's really bad. You're 55 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna lose your trend. You're gonna do something 56 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: about that. Well, then I started obsessing about it. So 57 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: I want to I'm new to the area and I 58 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: don't have the good mechanic that I did. I know 59 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: you you praise and I used to have one, And 60 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: so I started shopping around and talking different people and 61 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: really didn't get any good answers. I went to a 62 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: transmission shop and they wanted to charge me inrmally just 63 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: to look at it. And I went to another transmission 64 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: shop and they're like, well before you bring it in, 65 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: why don't you change the filter and fluid. That's the 66 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: first time we do. I said, okay, So I did that. 67 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: It didn't help. No. So he's like he and the 68 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: guy took it for a drive, and he's like, you know, 69 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: this is when the things happened. And I'm old school, 70 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: so I remember colletch plates and uh um and and 71 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: there's something in there that's similar to a clutch plate 72 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: but modern transmission. He goes, that part is getting bad 73 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: and and so he goes, it's not broke, but it's 74 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: getting bad. What I'll do is I'll go in and 75 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: I'll clean out your transmission without dropping it, and I'll 76 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: clean it and do all these things and just make 77 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: it easier on that part, make it last, because I'm 78 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: thinking of getting rid of the truck in a few years. 79 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: So I took it in for him to do it. Well, 80 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: while it's in there, it coded them and he said, yeah, 81 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: he quoted while I was here, and it needs a 82 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: new mass airflow uh sensor. So I put one on 83 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: and that's solved the problem. And two d sixty dollars later, 84 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: I drove it out and it's still doing it. And 85 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: I just think I'm like you said, the mass airflow 86 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: sensor was telling me that the engine was thinking that 87 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: you were pulling something, you were toying, so it was 88 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: making it idle up farther. And so I'm not like, Okay, 89 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to take it back to him. And 90 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: I just you know, I listened to your show over 91 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: the years that I'm just gonna call you and and 92 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: you know what's my next step? Well, I want to 93 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: tell you what I think the first step should have 94 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: been somewhere along the way, and it doesn't take a 95 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: lot of money. Um, somebody should have scanned this for codes. 96 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: First step alright, Well it's never showed any code. Well, 97 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: chin light, No, I get that. And well, but don't 98 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: base it on not getting a check engine light. All right, 99 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: And you know, if you're a regular listener, you know 100 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna tell you next. You ever get sick 101 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: on Wednesday? You started you started feeling bad on Monday, right, 102 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: So you started had a pending problem on Monday, but 103 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: you didn't start sneezing until Wednesday, or maybe you were 104 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: sneezing on Tuesday, and by Wednesday your head was stuffed up. 105 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: And your wife said you're staying in bed. You're not 106 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: going to work today. So your check engine light came 107 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: on on Wednesday, But man, you had that pending problem 108 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: on Monday, all right. And you know, cars are funny, 109 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: and it boggles my mind how people will resist, you know, 110 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: spending a minimal amount of time just just put a 111 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: scanner on it. You know. Sometimes, and again I keep 112 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: saying this, Sometimes telling somebody what's wrong with the car 113 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: is telling them what's not wrong with the car. If 114 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: I if I've got no fault codes, nothing impending, nothing 115 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: stored hard and I'm talking O B D two and 116 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: manufacturer side of the computer. If I've got nothing there, 117 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: hey great, you know what. I just spent what I 118 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: want to take fifteen minutes, and I kind of know 119 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: what I don't have to deal with. I can go 120 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: on to something else, all right. The So that's number one, 121 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: and then number two. Did the place to tell you 122 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: to change the fluid and filter? And this is just 123 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: a curiosity thing for me. The place that told you 124 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: to change the fluid and filter, did they check the 125 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: fluid level or look at the fluid condition before they 126 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: told you that? Okay, so for all they knew you 127 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: could have just had the fluid done last week and 128 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: they decided to tell you to change it again. Well, 129 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: and I told him my head changed, all right. But still, 130 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, checking fluid level and condition is always a 131 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's like a first thing, always, always basics. 132 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: And when I when I did change it, the I 133 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: dropped the pan and imagine it was clear and there 134 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: was nothing on it. The flu is a little darker, 135 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: but you know it's probably been in there six seven years. 136 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: But it looks great. And the engine's got the train 137 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: has got to anybody, anybody talked to you about service 138 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: Bulleton's no, okay, there's more this this bulletin appears. I'll 139 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: give you the base number. You got a pencil, No, 140 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: I don't. But I'm heading towards the right now, all right, 141 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: head towards warning. You know you can always The beauty 142 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: of this radio show is after this show goes out 143 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: live like you're hearing it now, we're always available on podcast. 144 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: You can go to car Doctor show dot com and 145 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: download the podcast. You would be an hour one in 146 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: the first in the first fifteen minutes, depending on how 147 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: long this call goes. But you want to get your 148 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: hands on bulletin Oh three dish oh seven dish thirty 149 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: dish O two oh. I can do that again, sure 150 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: too for a nickel, Uh say when you're ready, okay, 151 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: because otherwise I was gonna have to hump because it 152 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: has to be live radio. People have to hear me. 153 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: And my home is not I tralah better than I hum, 154 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: you know la la al Right. So anyway, technical bulletin 155 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: number O three O seven thirty dash O two oh. 156 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: And I believe there's a B. There might even be 157 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: a C. By now. This goes all the way back 158 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: to two thousand three and two thousand four model year. 159 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: And this bulletin will the title of this bulletin is 160 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: gonna be are you ready? Transmission has a harsh one 161 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: to shift, a slipping one to shift, followed by a 162 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: harsh engagement. It's an either or and right out of 163 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: the factory, I mean right out of the gate, these 164 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: transits had problems and they wanted you to change the 165 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: PC solenoid, the pressure control solenoid, and reprogram the PCM. 166 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: Do a reflesh. No, that's something to repair. Shops gotta do. 167 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: So you know that's what I would. I would, and 168 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: you know my curiosity would be if in two thousand 169 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: and eight when you bought this, was this done prior 170 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: And there's almost you know, unless you know history going back, 171 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: there's almost no way to tell. The only way you 172 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: can tell is somebody's gonna have to take up a 173 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: scan tool, going with a tech too and look at 174 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: current software levels and see get out the tist to 175 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: web and and look to see it. Does this have 176 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: a Windows update so to speak? Is there is there 177 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: a software update for this? And if the software update 178 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: is legitimate and has to be done, then I'm gonna 179 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: tell you the pressure control Solinoid probably hasn't been done 180 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: alright now, now the big problem here is two thousand 181 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: miles this this could already be done because it just 182 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: went through two thousand three. What are we fifteen years old, 183 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: sixteen years old that had fifteen sixteen years of harsh 184 00:08:55,559 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: shifts and a repair wasn't performed that you know kind 185 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: of abuse the trends. Let's face it. You know if 186 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: if if you got if you got banged first and 187 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: second all day long for the last sixteen years, you 188 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't walk right either. Um, you know, your knees were hurt, 189 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: your back would hurt. You'd be like, what the heck 190 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: is going on? The trans cam't be in any much 191 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: better shape, so you know it's you may be headed 192 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: towards the trans anyway. What what my concern overall is, 193 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: I'm not hearing anybody talk about any kind of diagnosis. 194 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the one shop wanted to do with diagnosis 195 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: and you said it was expensive to find expensive Steve, 196 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: what do they want hund fifty bucks us to bring 197 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: it in? I had to leave it for the day, 198 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: all right. I gotta tell you if if you know, 199 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: you're a Wisconsin so I don't know what their labor 200 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: rate is, but I assume everybody works on a hundred 201 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: an hour labor rate. That's where most of the country 202 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: is at a hundred bucks. That's two and a half 203 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: hours of time. And you know, I would be a 204 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: little upset if the answer came back to, well, it 205 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: needs to trans I can tell you right now, two 206 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: U ten thousand miles, fifteen years old, it probably needs 207 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: a trans and to charge to fifty dollars to tell 208 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: you that, Um, I would be looking for Hey, you know, 209 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: is there a simpler or less expensive alternative than putting 210 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: you know into this truck to right. And that's my point. 211 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: So you know I would I would clearly take it 212 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: to Now, you could take it to a regular mechanic 213 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: that's got the ability to flash all right, if he's 214 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: got the ability to pull flash programming, he can tell 215 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: you current software level and get your hands on that 216 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: bolletin and read it and decide, you know, is this 217 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: applicable to the truck. But I would, I would clearly 218 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: start that out. Um, And that's where I would start 219 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: now to make to make the argument to keep the 220 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: truck and to spend the money. Do you really need 221 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: the truck? This is where I turned tables on you 222 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: do you really need the truck? I have to have 223 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: to try. Okay, so you have to have the truck. 224 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: Have you priced out the vehicle? I love the truck, right, 225 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: Have you priced out in new trucks yet? Yeah? Yeah, 226 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: that's did see been paid off for a long time. 227 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: So that's exactly where I'm going there. Yeah, it's you know, 228 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: it's every time I think maybe it's time to go 229 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: out and buy a vehicle, it's been uh, you know, 230 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: it's been ten years, twelve years, fifteen years, whatever, And 231 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: I go out and you know, it's it's like, it's 232 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: not that it's expensive, but I've had phone numbers with 233 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: less numbers in it, and I just keep thinking to myself, like, 234 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: holy count fifty grand for a base pickup truck. Uh yeah, 235 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: I gotta really need it. Um, I've I've really got 236 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: to need it. So um, you know, just food for thought. 237 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: But get your hands on that bulletin, stay away from 238 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: the guy that just wants to throw parts at it, 239 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: and find somebody that will at least scan at the 240 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: baseline and work your way out on diagnosis. From there, 241 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,599 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be talking a little bit about some diagnosis 242 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: I did this week in the shop, and it's kind 243 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: of like along these lines. I'll try to do it 244 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: this hour if you if you can stick around, if 245 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: you want to grab the podcast later, but uh, you know, 246 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: sometimes it's it's what I know. Yeah, absolutely, babe. You 247 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: have a good rest of the weekend, and let us 248 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: know how it works out. Nine zero run eating the 249 00:11:46,040 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: car doctor coming back right after this time? Right it 250 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: on the wall, so you don't forget to call for 251 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: a car advice done right? Eight five five five zero 252 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Now back to hey, let's get over 253 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: and talk to Al from Brand New Wine? Where's brand 254 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: New Wine? L in the ninety nine Niecean set about 255 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: ten miles south of Washington, d c Oh, cool Bean's brother. 256 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: What's what's going on? How can I help you today? UM? 257 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to well, first of all, thanks for your 258 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: informative show. Always enjoyed listenings to it. And um, I 259 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: wanted to comment about a discussion you had last week 260 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: on the p O four two oh catalytic converter efficiency code, 261 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: and you had mentioned how that code came up in 262 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: somebody's car and it turned out there was nothing wrong 263 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: with the catalytic converter, but instead there was a leak 264 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: in the exhaust system. And that reminded me of exactly 265 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: similar experience that I had. I bought a used car 266 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: about ten years ago. It was throwing up p O 267 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: four two oh code and to make a long story short, 268 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: it turned out to be the front oxygen sensor was 269 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: getting lazy and uh, if you looked at the data 270 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: stream on a on a scanner, you could see the 271 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: front oxygen sensor, especially at idle when the thing cooled 272 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: off a little bit. Um it would stop switching if 273 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: you rebbed it up. To two or three grand. It 274 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: would switch, you know, a hundred mill of votes nine 275 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: dr mill of votes back and forth. But at idol 276 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: it would start to slow down, and for a couple 277 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: of seconds it actually stopped. And of course, once it's 278 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: stopped and put out a constant voltage, then it looked 279 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: just like the rear oxygen sensor. And the computer says, oh, 280 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: front oxygen sensor looks like the rear oxygen sensor. It's 281 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: almost best, right, And um, so you know the moral 282 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: of the story is, um that just because you get 283 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: a cold doesn't tell you what the fix. That just 284 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: tells you what that's failed. And now you gotta go 285 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: figure out what happened. So I put a fifty dollar 286 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: oxygen sensor in it. And it's ten years later and 287 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: a hundred forty thousand miles later, and there's never been 288 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: a check engine light. Sense well, and and sometimes and 289 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, and sometimes it's got to come back 290 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: to common sense. You have to sit there and say, 291 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: you know this was this is what would you say 292 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: ten years ago? Well, and and the car had forty 293 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it. It had just under a hundred 294 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it. And you know, even at a 295 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles, it's you know, you say to yourself, gee, 296 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: it's awfully young to be going through a cat at 297 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: that stage. You know, if a car has got a 298 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles on it, it's going through a cat. 299 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, I guess. I guess to a degree 300 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: it can go bed. But by the same token, you 301 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: know what made it go bead A cat is a 302 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: cat is a victim of so much abuse that for 303 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: all the work that it has to do, what's driving 304 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: that cat and killing it to death? And people don't 305 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: want to look at that. I had. I had a 306 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: twenty twelve Chevy Equinox this week that the customers complaint 307 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: was when it's cold, the driver's window was slow going 308 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: up between two and three inches off the top of 309 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: the door. And then after that it was okay, I 310 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: couldn't duplicate it really because it was Tuesday, it was naturally, 311 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: or Wednesday, it was naturally the warmest day of the 312 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: week this past week here in North Jersey. So I 313 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: sat there and I looked at it, and I said, well, 314 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: and I could see how it was just you know, 315 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: it was a little sluggish at that point, even in 316 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: the warm weather. And I'm going forty eight thousand miles 317 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: on the car. Bad window regulator that doesn't doesn't see 318 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound right to me. Shut three dollars worth 319 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: a silicone down. The rubber tracks worked it in a 320 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: couple of times. I don't know it's been called since Wednesday. 321 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: I haven't heard from the customer. I gotta call them Monday. 322 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: But I think it's fixed. For you know, you've got 323 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: to look at age and mileage, and it can't always 324 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: be that every car has got a bad part. There's 325 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: gotta be a reason why it failed, unless it's staring 326 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: in the face the leaky water pump of the bearing 327 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: that's noisy or something like that. Umah, let me let 328 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: me add one other really interesting feature to this story. 329 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: I bought the car from a charity, one of these 330 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: places where people donate car and then the charity sells 331 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: the car for whatever they can get and they use 332 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: the money for whatever cause they're supporting. I can't prove this, 333 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: but I am absolutely convinced that the people who own 334 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: this car had the check engine light come on. They 335 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: went to some jack leg and a gas station who 336 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: put a code reader in thing. Season mechanic said, oh 337 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: fuel four to old bear, kind of want a converter 338 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: at all, kind of want to convert a hundred thousand 339 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: miles and sought system must be all rusted up, and 340 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: he probably ran up some two thousand dollar rest of it. 341 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: They didn't know any better. They didn't want to spend 342 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars on a on a car that had 343 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: close to a hundred thousand miles. They couldn't sell it 344 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: with a check engine light on, so they donated to 345 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: a charity. So they threw away a car that had 346 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: at least ten more years and at least a hundred 347 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: forty thousand miles in inch because they couldn't find anybody 348 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: smart enough to figure out that it was a fifty 349 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: dollar ros And I and I and I see that 350 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,359 Speaker 1: all the time too, And that's what's wrong with this industry, 351 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: the pretenders and the pokers and the hoopers. To use 352 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: a phrase that I think you're familiar with good mechanics, aren't. 353 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: I've heard that, I've heard that that's um But that's 354 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: that's that's the truth. And you know the sad part 355 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: is I I a matter of fact, I've got a 356 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: I've got a bit of a nightmare coming in this 357 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: week Tuesday, I've got a I think it's an oh 358 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: three niece, I'm sorry, a two thousand Nissan Frontier. The 359 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: gentleman bought the car used car lot. UH, somewhere around 360 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: here in North Jersey bought a used car lot. It 361 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: had a check engine light on. The salesman said, don't worry, 362 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: we'll get it through inspection for you will fix it. Uh. 363 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: Thirty days later, they dropped it off on the guy's 364 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: front doorstep. And he's been everywhere and everybody's looked at it, 365 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: and everybody's tried throwing parts at it. And he came 366 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: in yesterday and he was very nice guy Rick, and 367 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: he asked me, says, listen, are you looking to take 368 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: on any more work? My first answer was no, But 369 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: you know I heard the story. My heart went out 370 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: to him. So it's gonna be. You know, it's another 371 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: case of somebody waving their arms telling him how bad 372 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: the vehicle is. I told him, I said, I'll give 373 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: you everything I've got. I'll what's going on? Really? For sure, 374 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: you may not like the answer, but you know, diagnosed, diagnosed, diagnosed, 375 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: and that's what we're gonna do Tuesday and Wednesday will 376 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: probably talk about it next week. And it's it's sad 377 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: because there's people are afraid to diagnose things. I just 378 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,239 Speaker 1: don't think they want to take the time to look 379 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: at it. They just want to throw parts at it 380 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: and sell it all. I appreciate the call very very much, 381 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: and it's good to hear from a listener. And I 382 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: always got to hear from listeners and a long term 383 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: or like you, and I'm glad it worked out for you. 384 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: That yeah, sometimes simple right, Like my college professor said, 385 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: keep it simple, sir as I like to rephrase it. 386 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: So but anyway, um zero running any of the car doctor, 387 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: I'm coming back to diagnose your problem right after this. 388 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: For the best in car advice, give run a call 389 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: eight five five now, bacter On. I was working on 390 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: a dodged durrangle the other day and I came across 391 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: a really interesting UH conversation bullet and piece of technical information. 392 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: They refer to off draw ignition off draw io d 393 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: as they're trying to get it down to the point where, 394 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: let me explain it. If you've got a car that's 395 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: got a dead battery. One of the things the mechanics 396 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: should be saying to you is obviously load test the battery, 397 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: make sure it's in a good state of charge. And 398 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: if it's not in a good state of charge, we're 399 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: gonna talk about that in a minute to I've got 400 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: something else from the folks overt associated I want to 401 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: bring up. But an ignition off draw is the actual 402 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: measurement of how much of a current draw there is 403 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: on the battery to determine is it excessive, is it 404 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: within spec. And Chrysler has written a very nice conversation 405 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: here they talk about ignition off draw and they get 406 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: it down to very specific things, how a radio is 407 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 1: one to three million amps, and power amplifier is up 408 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: to a milliamp here and and so on. But what's 409 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: what's interesting is they want it down again. Fifty milliams 410 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: is where we consider it to be, you know spec. Okay, 411 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: they're calling for they'd like to see between five and 412 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: thirty five milliamp heres, which is, you know, thinking this 413 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: of a hair down to um in terms of electrical current, 414 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: very very small and tiny. And it just shows the 415 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: article showed the Bolton showed how critical we need to 416 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: think in terms of we're looking at electrical and charging systems. Uh, 417 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, battery condition, alternator capability, and then what sort 418 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: of electrical load we've got on the system when the 419 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: key is off, ignition off, draw as they put it. 420 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: And it makes me think about all these add on 421 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: accessories that we're putting into cars and you know, the 422 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: ability to hook them up right and then can they 423 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: create a draw and it's it's just critical, So make 424 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: sure you have some. I'm gonna try and see if 425 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: there's a way I can post this article as a 426 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: generic conversation upon Facebook. Excuse me to get it out 427 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: on the Facebook page, because I think it's worth reading 428 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: for everybody that it just shows you the accuracy required 429 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: and the issues that can be created from very simple 430 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: things that that could possibly go rolling en up with 431 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: a dead battery. Um, because batteries are just handling of batteries. 432 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: I can't stress it enough. The battery is really the 433 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: heart and soul of the electrical system and of the car. 434 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: The folks over at Associated Associated Equipment you find them 435 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: out on the web, Associated equip dot com. Uh, they've 436 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: come out with a new battery charger. Listen to this thing. 437 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: It sounds like we're talking about a new car, alright. 438 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: It's got four by twenty digital display, it can be 439 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: three language options, polarity indicated, and protected with a deeper 440 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: It safely charges batteries UM A g M lithium I 441 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: on HB deep cell gel gel cells, fully automatic or 442 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: manual charging modes O E M Vehicle Manufacturing and Battery 443 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: Manufacturing Approved. Can you imagine we've got cars now where 444 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: you've got to go to the manufacturer and say, is 445 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: this battery charger okay to use on your Honda, your Toyota, 446 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: your GM, your Ford and so on, and they've got 447 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: that adjustable charging voltage. This thing sounds like we're launching 448 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: in F sixteen and it's it's it's a battery recharger. 449 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: It's got two wheels and a handle, all right, overcharged protection, 450 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: weather proof. Are you sure we're not talking about uh 451 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: an F sixteen made in the USA? Well, thank gosh 452 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: for that. UM automatically sets charging level in time of charge, 453 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: deep discharge recovery of sulfated batteries. Wow. UM latest battery 454 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: charger coming out from the folks. Overt Associated Associated equip 455 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: dot com. Just you know, we take a lot for granted, 456 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: just throw a battery in the car. That's my favorite conversation. 457 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: Just put a battery in it. What could it take? Well, 458 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, we had that this week real quick. And 459 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: then I'll go back to the phone. Had that this week, 460 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: had a two thousand and ten Ford Fusion towed in 461 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: absolutely stone dead, nothing out of the battery, dead, gone 462 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: forget it, all right, And I said to him, I'm 463 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: gonna take up a half hour to forty five minutes 464 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: of time. I'm going to verify the battery. If it 465 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: needs a battery, We're putting a battery in it, and 466 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: then I'm going to do a draw test. The draw 467 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: test on this Ford Fusion, monitoring it using a volt meter, 468 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: all right, took twenty eight minutes. It took twenty eight 469 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: minutes for that battery to get down where the the 470 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: the ignition off draw was down under fifty milliams. And 471 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: you know you've got to monitor, You've got to watch it. 472 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: It's not that simple to throw a battery in a 473 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: car anymore. The only thing you can throw in a 474 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: car is maybe something in the trunk or the back seat. 475 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: Other than that, you got to test it. Let's go 476 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: over and do some testing and talking ourselves. Let's go 477 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: over and talk to Jerry in Northern Minnesota. I guess 478 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: that isn't a thirteen Dodge Avenger. Jerry, Welcome to the 479 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir. How can I help yeah on this? 480 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: On his Dodge Avenger, it has h on. The heater system, 481 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: has good heat on the defroster and the heater on 482 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: the floor on the driver's side. On a passenger side, 483 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: the defroster in the heater are ice cold. What's going on? Okay? 484 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: The thirteen Avenger, Well, let me talk about the twelves 485 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: and the elevens. Alright. The earlier Avengers only had one 486 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: blend or actuator, all right, and the same with you. 487 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: I believe a thirteen only has one blend door, all right. 488 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: But I always say this cautiously because then I've heard 489 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: stories where there's two. Al Right. It seems that this 490 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: is a split year for christ so from the information 491 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm seeing, so I always be I'm always cautious here. 492 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: What this likely is is a restriction in the heater core. 493 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: As crazy as that sounds. This if this is a 494 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: one blend door vehicle, one blend or one servo control 495 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: I've seen restrictions in the heater core affect heat out 496 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: the passenger and the froster side of the dashboard. All right, 497 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: so you know a couple of things. I want to 498 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: scan it for codes, all right. I want to look 499 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: to see if there any fault codes, anything pending. I'd 500 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: like to see what engine temperature is. Just you know, 501 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: see what the computer sees its seeing, hunen whatever, alright, 502 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: write it down, okay. And then i'd like a thermometer 503 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: in the in the driver's side duct. I want to 504 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: get a real number, alright, hundred sixty, whatever the number is. 505 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: And then I want to I want a thermometer in 506 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: the passenger side duck. I want to get a real 507 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: number there. Okay. Then I want to go to the 508 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: heater core. If if this is well, I'm sorry, let 509 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: me back up. The next step I want to go 510 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: to is I want to get out of wiring diagram 511 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: and I want to see how many servos, how many 512 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: door actuators are listed for the vehicle by wiring diagram. 513 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: All right, do you know what I mean when I 514 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: say blend door actuator? Okay, So look look at the 515 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: front door to your house. All right, If you want 516 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: to let fresh air in, you open the door, right, 517 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: you want to keep the fresh air out, you close 518 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: the door. Now we're gonna put an electric motor on 519 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: top of one of the hinges. You're at the you're 520 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: at the dashboard. You turn the heater knob all the 521 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: way up. It opens the door to let hot air 522 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: blow across the heater core and come out to the 523 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: passenger and drivers side vents. All right, So I'm thinking 524 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: that's that's the problem with this car. But the Chrysler 525 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: dealerships up here, both of them insisted they need a 526 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: new heater car for it might. Oh it might, Because 527 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: here's the catch. Then you do have a one blend 528 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: door system, all right, the only way, the only way 529 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: that I can think of. We go through all those 530 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: other things and everything comes out to test the way 531 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: I asked for. It comes out to be correct. If 532 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: this is a one blend door system, then it's likely 533 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: a bad heater core, and the test for that, I mean, 534 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 1: they could also try flushing and back flushing the core 535 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: to see if it makes any difference. One of the 536 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: dealers did that difference made no difference, then I would 537 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: I would concur with them if this is a one 538 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: blend or vehicle. This is likely a bad heater corps. Yeah, 539 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: I supposedly this is a problem with the Avengers. Chrysler 540 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: is having a nationwide problem with these. I talked to 541 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: the factory. I talked to Chrysler itself twice now over 542 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: the past couple of years, and then say they're not 543 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: going to do anything for us about it. It's it's said, 544 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: isn't it yea? It is in a century, we really 545 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: have cars out on the road with malfunctioning heaters. It's 546 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. How many miles on the car Jerry right 547 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: now there's seventy two. I bought it when used in 548 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: forty thousand miles and at first winter we noticed it 549 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: was something wrong. Is the second winter this is going 550 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: on and the dealers in insisted a new heater car. 551 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: And I'm taking it to another good mechanic here on Wednesday. 552 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: I'm going to see what he says. I'll mention this 553 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: blend do all. He mentioned me that this door business 554 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: already door and I think that's the first thing he's 555 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: going to look at. But like I said, if this 556 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: is a two blend door system, then I'm thinking door actuator. 557 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: But I you know, well I can't really say either way. 558 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: I'd have to look at a wiring diagram based on 559 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: the vent of the vehicle. Um, this this could be 560 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: an either or. But just you know, if you do 561 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: end up going with a heat record at the dealer, 562 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: your your last question after how much and they already 563 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: told you nine bucks, is are you sure this is 564 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: going to fix the problem? Yeah, a good question. Huh yeah, 565 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: I always like to ask that question. Uh. You know, 566 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: I always like to put that question in there when 567 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: somebody tells me it's a widget. Okay, I'm willing to 568 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: pay the freight for a widget. Can you promise me 569 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: that that's it? And I listened to their answer, Well, 570 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm going on websites concerning these cars, and the websites 571 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: are saying that there's a casting sand and the engine 572 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: that's have phoned its way into these uh, these these 573 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: these heater cars. That's why, that's why, that's why the 574 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: flush and back flush works sometimes. Okay, Now let me 575 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: ask you the dealer that did the back flush no 576 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: change at all afterwards? No, nothing, I couldn't tell anything, 577 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't make any difference, you know, I 578 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: well what I listen, Jerry, do this, call me back 579 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 1: next week. Let me know what the mechanic says. Let 580 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: me know what you end up doing. I'm curious. I'll 581 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: do that. Ron, sir, all right, you take good care 582 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: and stay warm up there in snowy Minnesota. Eight five 583 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 1: five zero nine nine zero zero running eating the car 584 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: doctor coming back right after this. That's right. If you 585 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 1: call and we're not live, you can leave a message 586 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: and we'll call you back to get you on the 587 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: air with Ron. Eight five five zero nine nine zero zero. 588 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: Speaking of Ron, there he is. Let's get over and 589 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: talk to Lisa in Minnesota. Two thousand, four f one fifty. Lisa, 590 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: you're out of the car doctor. How can I help? Sorry? 591 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: I can't believe we've got two of us from northern 592 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: Minnesota on back to back. It must be a snowy 593 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: day and there's nothing else to do up there. I 594 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: guess maybe it's gonna snow again tomorrow, or snow just 595 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: melted often this last week and a half, and now 596 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna get dumped on next week and it's gonna 597 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: get cold again. That's like the national sport. That's like 598 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: the national sport up there right. Yeah. Anyway, my son's 599 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: got a two thousand Ford f one fifty and all 600 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden the oil gauge is doing weird things. 601 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: And I don't think it has anything to do with 602 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: the pressure, because when he starts it up in the 603 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: morning and the engine is cold, it goes and drops 604 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: all the way below the no oil pressure line and 605 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: the dummy light comes on and it stays there. Uh. 606 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: Last time I rode with him, it stayed there for 607 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes. But it was a really cold morning, 608 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: so I'm thinking, Okay, the engine starting to warm up, 609 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it didn't just slowly rise up. 610 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: It popped. It went fun and it went up to 611 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: where it belonged. The light shut off, and then just 612 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: about it fast, it popped right back down to no 613 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: oil pressure. Light came back on, and it did this 614 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: pop up and pop down thing for about three or 615 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: four minutes, and then it finally stayed where we believe 616 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: the oil pressure is anyway, you know, where it says 617 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: it's good and the lights up and then it stayed 618 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: there the rest of the day. But if he shuts 619 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: the truck off for twenty minutes, it'll do it all 620 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: over again, he says, if if he if he starts, 621 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: if he goes to the store and comes out, it 622 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: will be normal. But if he leaves the truck not 623 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: running for twenty minutes like he's grocery shopping, comes back out, 624 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: it'll start all over again. He has no oil pressure, 625 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: no no sounds from the engine, nothing strange, no mechanical noise, 626 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: no tapping, no nothing, no nothing. And I know what 627 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: low oil pressure should sound like, and his engine makes 628 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: no funky noises whatsoever. Okay Um, at the oil pressure 629 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: switch is going to be a white red wire, a 630 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: white wire with a red trace. Um you verify that's there, 631 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: you should be able to jump or that to ground. 632 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: If you jump that to ground, okay Um, the gauge, 633 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: the gauge should come up and read like you sort 634 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: of expected to when the light will go out. If if, 635 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: if that's the case, then we've either got loss of 636 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: oil pressure in the engine, which I don't think you do, 637 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: or a bad oil pressure switch. All right. The fact 638 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: that it's not making any mechanical noise, that it's got 639 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: no tapping that you know. I mean, I've had cars 640 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: with no oil pressure three weeks because he said told 641 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: him it could be a dirty oil filter, so he 642 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: got the oil changed. It was doing this a thousand 643 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: miles before the oil change, and now it's continued to 644 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: do it after. So right, I would, I would. I 645 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: would be willing to bet it's a switch, however, and 646 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: I want to put a caveat there. I have seen 647 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: more than a few problems with the Ford instrument clusters 648 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: that generation Ford truck, So it would be nice if 649 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: grounding the wire, you know, brought it up to mid 650 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: scale or wherever you expect to see it and it 651 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: stayed there while he drove around. That tells us that 652 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: the cluster itself is capable of seeing a good signal, 653 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: and that it's the signal from the switch. If grounding 654 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: the wire doesn't correct the condition, then we've got to 655 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: look further up the line. Do we have an open 656 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: or a problem with the wire itself or does he 657 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: have a problem with the cluster. Let's get through step 658 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: one first and then give me a call back and 659 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: we can talk about it all right. And I wouldn't 660 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: be just for the record, I wouldn't be violently opposed 661 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: to sticking a mechanical gauge in place of the sender, 662 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: just so I can see what the pressure is. But 663 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: I again, no noise, and you know it's the center 664 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: is probably cheap enough. Just make sure he gets a 665 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: good quality piece that. Um, you're probably gonna find out 666 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a center. But grounding that white 667 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: red wire, we'll do it for you. So um, let's 668 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: give that a try and give me a call back 669 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: five zero zero. We're on any of the car doctor 670 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: coming back right after this when you get keep Ron's 671 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: number hand eight five five five zero zero zero for 672 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: when you really need advice on your car. Here's rock 673 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: welcome back. You know, I'm not sure how well this 674 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: is gonna translate out on radio. I was gonna try 675 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: and do this on Facebook, but I don't think I can, 676 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna talk about it here. I had a 677 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: two thousand three Chevy astro van this week at the 678 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: shop that was towed in for a no star condition, 679 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: no crank, no nothing turned the key, not a peep 680 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: out of it. Now, a lot of people would sit 681 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: there and say, well, it's a battery or it's a starter, 682 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: and I guess that's easy, and that's not what was 683 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: wrong with this, and they get burned and they wouldn't 684 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: look past you know, I got to look for some basics, 685 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: all right. I got in the truck, turned the key on, 686 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: and I had no dash lights and I had no voltmeter, 687 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: and I thought that was interesting. And I turned the 688 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: key forward and nothing, no click, nothing, no sound. Out 689 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: of the truck had headlights, had power, windows, had strong headlights. 690 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: So I said, well, it can't be a battery. And 691 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: I went through my due diligence and I looked at 692 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, I low tested the battery. It was fine. 693 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: The battery one battery Turmino was a little dirty. I 694 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: cleaned the acid off of it, and not a big deal. 695 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: Long story short. I got out of power and ground 696 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: distribution wiring diagram and I sat down and I looked 697 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: at it, and I said, how does the starter get power? 698 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: But more importantly, how does that one voltmeter get power? 699 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: And where are my dash warning lights? And when I 700 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: looked at it, I was able to determine that ignition 701 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 1: a few the forty M fuse in the underhood fuse 702 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: block was the one leg of the circuit that was 703 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: feeding those three or four critical components. Sure enough, found 704 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: the blown forty AM fuse and a shorter purple solenoid 705 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: feed wire going down to the starter, and that was 706 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: the root cause of a diagnosed I'm on a card 707 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: doctor A mechanics trying expensive the Priceles