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Speaker 2: Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Shashe. I am

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Speaker 2: your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proproud of Club

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Speaker 2: Shasha and the young lady that stopping by for conversation

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Speaker 2: on a drink today. Is one of the best love comedians.

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Speaker 2: She's one of the most decorated actors. She won an Oscar,

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Speaker 2: a Golden Globe. She's a British Academy Film Theater, an

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Speaker 2: Arts Award. She's a Scripts Howard Guild winner, naacp Immage

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Speaker 2: Award winner. She's been nominated for a Primetime Emmy and

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Speaker 2: a Grammy. She's a talented host, executive producer, writer, and

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Speaker 2: an author. A versatal entertainer, a famed Hollywood star, a

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Speaker 2: powerful name in the industry, a veteran stand up comedian,

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Speaker 2: a mother, a wife, a legend, the one, the only Monique.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, no one does that better? Baby? Do it again?

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Speaker 2: Hell on, welk it to another episode of I Am

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Speaker 2: Your Hole.

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Speaker 1: Now put that damn cars down and read all that again.

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Speaker 1: Oh brother, thank you.

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Speaker 2: We started by. I want to toast you for your amazing,

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Speaker 2: amazing career, not only in front of the camera, but

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Speaker 2: behind the camera and your stand up career. Monique for

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Speaker 2: stopping by today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, brother shay Shah.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. But a drinks of what after that?

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Speaker 4: One?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Who? Yes? Indeed, let me just say this before

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Speaker 1: we start. Yeah this right here. Yeah, I'm gonna talk

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Speaker 1: right to the sisters. One sip, get you right there,

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Speaker 1: and now I'm back to your shave. I'm back to

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Speaker 1: your baby. That's enough for me, baby, But oh, sisters,

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Speaker 1: if you're trying to make up with your man, if

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Speaker 1: you're trying to get pregnant. This right here is Shannon

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Speaker 1: Shop one set, take care of.

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Speaker 2: All your woes?

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Speaker 1: Why that thing right there?

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Speaker 2: Okay morning, When you hear everything that I read on

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Speaker 2: the card, what goes through your mind? When you hear that?

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Speaker 1: What goes through my mind? When I hear you read that?

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Speaker 1: I'm humbled by that. I'm grateful for that I've been

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Speaker 1: allowed to share a gift, because that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: But when you start reading that, there's a part that says,

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Speaker 1: I'm grateful that I was able to put that work

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Speaker 1: in to achieve those things. But all with humility.

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Speaker 2: You said, we were talking off camera. You said, I

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Speaker 2: want to get something. There's something I want to share

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Speaker 1: Because that's why I'm looking at you now. Why you're

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Speaker 1: going into that because I talked him. We could not

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Speaker 1: let me say this to you. The day I watched

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Speaker 1: Skip Baylist, okay lose himself with you, and that's what

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Speaker 1: he did he lost himself. And when I watched Skip

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Speaker 1: baylist say to you, put them goddamn glasses back on. Boy.

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Speaker 1: Now I know he didn't say goddamn it, boy, but

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Speaker 1: that's what everybody heard. And I was waiting for you

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Speaker 1: to snatch his ass across that table, baby and give

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Speaker 1: it to him. I was like, sharing it. This is

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Speaker 1: the perfect time. I don't condone violence. I don't say

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Speaker 1: be violent, but that day I was in my feelings

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Speaker 1: for two days. Me and my grandm baby could not

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Speaker 1: let's talk about this. Look at Shannon Shaw. He retired

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and four, but he could still get

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Speaker 1: on that field and run touchdowns, tackles, everything. Had he

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Speaker 1: snatched skip bails across that table, he would have died

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Speaker 1: in Shannon's arms that day. So brother Shay, Shay handled

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Speaker 1: that right. Now, we can talk, Okay. I just had

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Speaker 1: around the world heard what I heard. No, he didn't

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Speaker 1: say them words, but we heard it in his mind,

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Speaker 1: and we was looking for you to say, spacing opportunities,

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Speaker 2: That's that be more coming out of you.

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Speaker 1: You know what, that's your aunt Mary coming out of me. Yes,

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Speaker 1: your Aunt Mary coming out of me.

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Speaker 2: Baby, I got an aunt named Mary Nell Monique. You

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Speaker 2: and her are a spitting image. I remember the very

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Speaker 2: first time I saw you and my sister and I

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Speaker 2: we were talking and my sister looked at me and

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Speaker 2: I looked at her. I say, she's a spitting image

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Speaker 2: of my aunt Mary, and you are you are. Hopefully

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Speaker 2: we're gonna put a pitch when we run this. So

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Speaker 2: you're from Baltimore, yes, And I read everything that I

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Speaker 2: read when you were growing up in Baltimore. What did

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Speaker 2: a young Monique want to be?

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Speaker 1: Just what I'm doing right now? Baby, you dream of this,

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Speaker 1: just when I tell you, Shannon, from a little girl,

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Speaker 1: I always wanted to be famous, Okay, because I saw

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Speaker 1: and hollering, and I'm like, damn it, I want them

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Speaker 1: to scream and holler for me. But I couldn't sing.

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Speaker 1: But I knew somewhere I was gonna be famous. So

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Speaker 1: I prayed to the universe, just let me be famous.

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Speaker 1: I didn't understand what all came with that. As a

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Speaker 1: the glitz. That little girl fell in love with a

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Speaker 1: woman named Oprah Winfrey on a local talk show in

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Speaker 1: Baltimore called people are talking. And when I looked at

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Speaker 1: that woman Shanning, I saw me. I saw a big

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Speaker 1: and I said, if fat woman can do that, so

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Speaker 1: can I. So that's what that little girl was thinking

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Speaker 1: about from Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Are you the type of person that if you see

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Speaker 2: someone do something one time that means it can be

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Speaker 2: done again. Because you saw Oprah do it, you say, well,

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Speaker 2: Oprah doing it, why can't Monique do it?

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Speaker 1: I think Oprah, when I saw her do it as

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Speaker 1: a little girl, was a push. However, had I not

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Speaker 1: seen Oprah, my dreams would have still been my dream.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but when you.

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Speaker 1: See somebody that's inside of that space, because how many

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Speaker 1: big black women are on TV even now, so back

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Speaker 1: then you didn't see any big black woman on TV

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Speaker 1: that was doing it. So I think had I not

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Speaker 1: seen her, I would have still wanted to do it.

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Speaker 1: But seeing her, let me say, Okay, it's possible, it's

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Speaker 1: right there.

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Speaker 2: What was Monique like as a little girl?

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Speaker 1: What you're seeing right now? But I just got listen.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. A lot of people in

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Speaker 1: this industry don't like me. Right. They didn't like me

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Speaker 1: as a little girl, Shannon. I'm so used to this shit.

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Speaker 1: People didn't like me because I was gonna tell it.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell I'm going to tell on you.

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Speaker 1: So what you're saying right now is the same thing

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Speaker 1: you're getting. They tried to fight my ass in the

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Speaker 1: twelfth grade, Shannon. They surrounded me, a group of them. Okay,

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Speaker 1: wanted to fight on me. Why because I told the truth?

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Speaker 1: What you tell I told. I told Andre that that

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Speaker 1: was not Lawan's baby, because that's what let me tell

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute of sugar. You're gonna calm yourself. Okay,

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Speaker 1: do you see Shannon losing itself? Shannon, let me tell

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Speaker 1: you something. Okay, I'm a person for right, right, And

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Speaker 1: if you tell me something and you say, Monique, I've

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Speaker 1: done something to somebody, but don't say nothing, Shannon, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna need you to fix that, because if you don't

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Speaker 1: fix it. I'm gonna have to tell that because it's wrong.

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Speaker 1: So when she tells me this, this is not his baby,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna tell him it's his baby, I can't

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Speaker 1: let you do that. That's not right. So what I

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Speaker 1: you see wrong happening, right, So when you see wrong happening,

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Speaker 1: what you do? Do you just stand back and say

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Speaker 1: I knew that wasn't his baby. Now the baby twenty

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Speaker 1: you're gonna do, I'm asking you what you're gonna do?

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Speaker 2: Well, honestly, Monique, if somebody say, well, selly, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: tell you something, and I'm gonna tell you this in confidentiality,

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Speaker 2: and I don't want to go any further than me,

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Speaker 2: you and this table. Yes, it stayed with me and

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Speaker 2: him in the table.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me say this because I'm gonna go back

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Speaker 1: and forth with your hands. Okay, I would say, before

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Speaker 1: you tell me, did you hurt somebody?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Yes, before you tell me, is this something that would

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Speaker 1: Because if you're getting ready to tell me something and

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Speaker 1: I know that you've done something wrong, I know that

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Speaker 1: See Harvey Weinstein. Yes, well, there's a lot of people

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Speaker 2: But if it wasn't their place, it was well in them.

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Speaker 1: Right until it becomes you. So I think the moment

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Speaker 1: eventually you will succumb to what you support.

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Speaker 2: What was your relationship with the young lady that told

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Speaker 1: You know what's Shannon, It's a combination. Okay, it was

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Speaker 1: And that's not a victim story, that's not all what

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Speaker 1: Because if not, there will be what repercussions? Well, now

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Speaker 2: How would you ever be on a sitcom? So? How

432
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: is it that bad? Monique? And you end up like this?

433
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 1: You know, when you first got in the NFL, yes man,

434
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 1: your eyes were like this, yes, and it was Oh,

435
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 1: I made it, I'm here. And then after you start

436
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: getting in it, and you started seeing things and you

437
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: started feeling things, and you start now your eyes start

438
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 1: sitting a little closer because now you're understanding what the

439
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: business is.

440
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: Right.

441
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: So when you first walked through the door, you're walking

442
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 1: through the door saying, come on, baby, Oh, this is

443
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 1: all I've ever prayed for. And when my baby cat

444
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: Williams said here and said, no one's ever gone out

445
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: to LA and got a sitcom like that. I was

446
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: in LA for three months and here comes a show

447
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: called the Parkers and there we go from there. It

448
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: took off from there. So I think that when people

449
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: say if it was so bad, you mature, You begin

450
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: to understand what you're dealing with. You begin to understand

451
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: what you're in the midst of. And once you understand

452
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: it is when you can speak on it. But before

453
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 1: you really know what you're looking at, how do you

454
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: speak on that? Because when you first walk in the

455
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: door of Hollywood, you have everybody telling you, oh my goodness,

456
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 1: you're going to be amazing, Oh my goodness, this is

457
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 1: going to be incredible. Well that's all you know.

458
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 2: That is all you know. Yes, but you're so happy

459
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: to be here. Yes, and you're like.

460
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: Okay, when I listen to your story, you say dirt, poor, yes,

461
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: bad froom outside, Yes it was. We had to make

462
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: it work. However, we can make it work.

463
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 2: Correct.

464
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 1: And then you get that first bit check yes, and

465
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: you think the people that gave it to you was

466
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 1: awesome because they gave it to you and it's more

467
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,959
Speaker 1: money than you've ever seen before. Until you find out

468
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: this ain't the right money, this ain't the right amount.

469
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, if they got this, why am I

470
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: getting this? Then you start putting the pieces together, and

471
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: you start saying it's not right, and I'm going to

472
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: speak about it. See when I saw Taraji broken on

473
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: those platforms, it was painful to watch. However, Taraji and

474
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: I had a conversation over a decade ago and my

475
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: trailer when I was doing the morning show, and she said,

476
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta keep on getting it until your

477
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: turn come. And I said, Taraji, most of us die

478
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: before our turn comes. We gotta ask for it right now. Now.

479
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: I understand that because there was a time I felt

480
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: the same way, because that's what I was told. You

481
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: just keep going and we'll get them the next time.

482
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: We'll get them the next time. We'll get it the

483
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: next time, and the next time never comes. And then

484
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: you see our sister broken sitting on those platforms now

485
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: when I said it, when I said.

486
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: It, why didn't they get the traction? When you said

487
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: it that when she said it. Now, all of a sudden,

488
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: everybody is coming and I don't have a problem. I'm glad, yes,

489
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: but if you said this a decade ago, and I

490
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 2: remember you saying it over a decade ago, why didn't

491
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: they get the traction? Why didn't they get the support.

492
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: Why wasn't it propped up when Monique said it.

493
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: I think there's a few reasons why. Number one, it

494
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: was the messenger. I should just be grateful I got

495
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: invited to the party. You a big fat black woman,

496
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: how dare you be the one? And then on top

497
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: of that, you're saying names. Your saying Oprah's name out loud,

498
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 1: your saying Tyler's name out loud, You're saying Lee's name

499
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: out loud, your saying lions Gate out loud. That's not

500
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: what we do. We say they, we say the people,

501
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: we say the student, we say the producers. How dare

502
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: you actually say our heroes names specific? These are our heroes.

503
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: How could you say their names out loud? Because they're

504
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: the ones that did it? And if I don't say

505
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: it out loud, Now you see a woman that is

506
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 1: swallowing that pain, that is so stressed out. Then you

507
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: see our sister, Taraji p Henson sit on that platform,

508
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: and I love that baby because she's a beautiful spirit.

509
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: But to see her that broken. What our community was

510
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: saying was we have a hard time, some of us,

511
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: we have a hard time seeing a strong black woman

512
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: with a backstreet and a chin up and a strong

513
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: black man standing by her side. We have a hard

514
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: time accepting that, but we can accept seeing a black

515
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: woman broken. Now it's really serious because she's falling apart.

516
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: Our community had a hard time with those two things.

517
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 1: And when I would hear people say why is her

518
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: husband there? Why is he there? It's a sad day

519
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: when we're questioning why a black man was staying with

520
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: his black woman. So when you hear black women saying

521
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: we're the most undervalued, disrespected, underserved, mistreated, violated, exploited, we

522
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: get all of that. Then you see a black man

523
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: standing with his black woman saying not on my watch.

524
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: And you hear some black men saying while her husband

525
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: got to be there. We're in a sad state of

526
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: affairs when we begin to question black love and black unity.

527
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: So they didn't want to hear me, some of them,

528
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: because of what I look like, because I spoke about

529
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: their heroes, and because they saw that man standing right there, strong.

530
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: Did they question the because we had never seen this before,

531
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 2: not so not so public, not so present. Did they

532
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: question you and his relationship.

533
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 1: Be and my husband. Yes, when you say questions, what

534
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: is like? Because they did. But I want to understand what.

535
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 2: Because okay, did they think that was your husband or what?

536
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: Was he your manager? Because he's been everything, he's your lover,

537
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: he's your manager, he's your whatever. He's all encompassing. Yes,

538
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: he's a toolbox with all the tools that Monique needs,

539
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: all of them. And so when I heard people saying

540
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: that why is he there? Why does he have to

541
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: be in every interview? Why does he have to be

542
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: in the background, Why can't Monique do that? Why not?

543
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: Why not? Why not? And that's when you see and

544
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: these are my sisters. But when you see Taraji, when

545
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: you see Viola, when you see our sisters speaking out,

546
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: you never see their representation sitting right there with them.

547
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: You never see them saying, listen, we gotta fight together.

548
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: My husband is also my manager, which is my representation.

549
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: But again, we've been so beat down that some of

550
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: us have a problem with this black man saying I'm

551
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: standing right here, strong and I will not flinch and

552
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: I will not budge. What a sad state of affairs

553
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: we are now in where you have people that look

554
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: like you and I that would question why this man

555
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: is standing there that, for the life of me, it's

556
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: disheartening when we heard brother Malcolm say, we've been running unk,

557
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: we've been hoodwinked. We're now doing it to ourselves. We're

558
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: now doing it to ourselves. So when you said Monique,

559
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: it was different because we had never seen that before

560
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,239
Speaker 1: you said their names. Let me say this, I'm not

561
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: the first one, right, I'm not the first one. But

562
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: we get washed away in history so easily that we

563
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: start thinking, oh, this is the first one. This is

564
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: the first one. Her name is Claudete Covin, and she's

565
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: not the first one, but she was before Rosa Parks.

566
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: But because Claudete Covin did not fit the picture that

567
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: they thought she should look like. She was dark skinned

568
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: and she had coarse hair, and because the organization, I

569
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: believe it was the NAACP did not think she would

570
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: be accepted by the white people. They had to get

571
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: somebody that they said the white people could accept. We

572
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: keep repeating the same thing because what I said is

573
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: no different than what anyone else is saying, not at all. Right,

574
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: it was the messenger, and it was the way that

575
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm not putting my head down, I'm not shedding one tear.

576
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say I don't want to say they

577
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: name because I might get in trouble. I'm gonna say

578
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: all of it right because when you really think about

579
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: that little girl coming behind you, what I don't ever

580
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: want that baby to see is me broken. I don't

581
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: want her to see me falling apart. And I understand it.

582
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: I understand how it can happen, Shannon, when you may

583
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: not have a foundation at home, when you may not

584
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: have that man at home or that woman at home

585
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: homever that support person saying you're not crazy. I got you.

586
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: Come on, we're gonna go do this. We're gonna get

587
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: through this. So for us, if we start taking things

588
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: but what they are and get out of our emotions,

589
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: we would be so far alone.

590
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: Do you believe punishment? Punishment is not only meant for

591
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: the perpetrator, but it's also to deter others from said

592
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: acts you said? Do you believe the punishment that was

593
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: bestowed upon Monique was not only to punish you, but

594
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: to deter others from saying what you say?

595
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: Well, Shannon, see hit and I'm gonna answer that. But

596
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: sometimes we act like we don't know our history. See

597
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: back in the day, when they had us some chains

598
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: they would beat one real good in front of the others,

599
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: and they let everybody know what you don't want is

600
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: that type of ass whooping. So what they said was,

601
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna beat Monique really good, We're gonna sit her down,

602
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: and I made it public. Financially, my family took a hit, Shannon,

603
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: And when I tell you we took a hit, we

604
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: took a hit. So when you see our sister go

605
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: through that, you see her go through, and we act

606
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: like our eyes didn't see what it saw when we

607
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: watched that promotion happen with the color purple, we wanted

608
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: to act like we didn't see how Oprah Winfrey treated

609
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: to Raji. And my humble opinion, when you saw her

610
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: walk up, you saw that there was tension. You saw

611
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: that there was something happening. And then when you see

612
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: Taraji write her a love letter, it's like, listen, we

613
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: gotta stand tall and stand strong on what we know.

614
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: We know you were mistreated, we know it wasn't right,

615
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: we know it was unfair. And then you turn around

616
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: and say, oh, but lady Oh handled it. I have

617
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: a problem with that. I have a problem with that

618
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: because that allows Lady Jo to keep on doing what

619
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: she's doing, and we're in a position of I don't

620
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: want to say nothing because we saw how Monique got whooped.

621
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: Now again, that's just my humble opinion, but I don't

622
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: know what else to I don't know how else to

623
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: frame that. It's like, listen, you better fix that because

624
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: you saw what they did to her, you saw how

625
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: they treated her.

626
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: Is it a situation? Do you believe it's a situation

627
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: that Oprah might have faced something similar that maybe wasn't

628
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: as public as you and she's looking at it. Well,

629
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: if I faced that, went through it and came out

630
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: on the other side and look at me, it should

631
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: be okay, because sometimes we get that with parents. You know,

632
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: I struggle, You say, my kids should have to struggle sometimes. Also,

633
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: do you think that might be something going on with

634
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: her or you're just like, there's a disconnect.

635
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: There's a disconnect. Okay, there's a disconnect, and there's been

636
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: a disconnect for years. There's a disconnect. And I think

637
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: what happens is we place people on these pedestals and

638
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: we say, oh no, you can't do no wrong. We

639
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: don't even want to hear it. And when you hear

640
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: Kat say, you know what, they do, they don't say anything,

641
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: and they act like it didn't happen. I'm gonna keep

642
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: talking until you take accountability, until you say, uncle, I've

643
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: done this. That's why it was so important, from Oprah

644
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: Winfrey to Tyler Perry Lee Daniels. Now, Lee Daniels was

645
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: the only one I had to deal with. Did you

646
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: see Lee Daniels apologize? He walked out on the stage.

647
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: Not only did he apologize on stage, that man apologized

648
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: to our children. That man apologized to our children and

649
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: said I need to apologize for what I put y'all through.

650
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: He's the only one I had to deal with. However,

651
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: it became a problem with Oprah Winfrey and Tyler Perry

652
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't do something and work for free. Now,

653
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,479
Speaker 1: when you say, well, maybe Oprah Field's like she came

654
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: through it. Why can't you Well, there's a story with

655
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey. When she was on the show. People are

656
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: talking Richard Chaer was making fifty five thousand dollars. She

657
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: was making twenty two thousand dollars. These are her words.

658
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: It was her co host. She said, I had to

659
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: leave because they wasn't paying me fairly. Now, you say

660
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 1: black women who did nothing wrong, and you're in the

661
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: midst of this situation because she called me. Tyler Perry

662
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,479
Speaker 1: called me, Lionsgate called. When you were on the phone

663
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: with my husband, you said, I agree with Monique. I

664
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: agree with the position she's taking. But when it came

665
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: time to say it out loud, Oprah Winfrey went totally silent. Now,

666
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: to Perry's credit, Tyler Perry called us up right, and

667
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: he said, I can see the pain in you and

668
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: I can hear it, and I want to let you

669
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: know that I would never do nothing to hurt you.

670
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: But the conversation kept going on, only for Tyler Perry

671
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: to admit he did start a rumor that I was

672
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: difficult to work with. He lied, only for Tyler Perry

673
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: to admit I was wrong. And when my movie Boo

674
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: come out, I'm gonna say that right now. Here's where

675
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: when you did that interview with Kat, I could respect

676
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: how you do it, because Kat said you let them

677
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: people lie in your face, and your response to was Kat,

678
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're lying or not, because I

679
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: can only take them at their word the word right.

680
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 2: Yes.

681
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: Well, we sent you the audio of Tyler Perry, I

682
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: don't want you to take me at my word. I

683
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: want you to hear his word. And what did you

684
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: hear that man saying? What did you hear that man saying?

685
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: He said?

686
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: What did he say?

687
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: Is that money? You know you're not supposed to be

688
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: recording people?

689
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, let me back up. Everything we

690
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: did was legal. And here's where a black woman really

691
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: gets the kick in the ass. Had I not recorded

692
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry, then it would have been my word against his,

693
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: and then on top of that, it would have been

694
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: he's so powerful we can't even pay no attention to that. Well,

695
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: now I have him on audio, which is legal to

696
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: do where we live, right, Okay, we have him on audio,

697
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: and do you know what? Some people then said, why

698
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: would you record him? Just like you said there and said,

699
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: you know what's unleegal to But did you hear what

700
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: the man said? I violated you. I mistreated you. Do

701
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, Shannon? That's cost my family tens of millions

702
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: of dollars? Yeah, over a lie and a rumor.

703
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: Is he gonna is he gonna make a car? He's

704
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: gonna compensate you for that?

705
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: I want you to look in your camera, yes, and

706
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: I want you to talk to Tyler Perry because you

707
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: heard what that man said, So ask him, will he

708
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: compensate my family for that?

709
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 2: Tyler? Will you come on club Shay Shay, and let's

710
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: have a conversation about the fair compensation for what transpired

711
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: between you and Monique. You can sit right here, and

712
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: she's sitting right here, and you and I can have

713
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: a conversation.

714
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: And well do you want better? And give me five

715
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: on that? Baby? Where do you want better? Shade my

716
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: husband and I'll sit right next to him. See, with

717
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: this whole situation, and some of the people that Kat

718
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: talked about, ironically, I have issues with those same people.

719
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: There were people that reached out to Tyler Perry on

720
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: my behalf, okay, and I was grateful for that. Okay.

721
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: There was Al Sharpton, the Reverend Al Sharpton, civil rights leader. Yeah,

722
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: I sent him that audio. He listened to it. He said, baby,

723
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: what that man did to you is wrong, and you're

724
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: like my daughter, and we're gonna have to get him

725
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: to fix that.

726
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: Right.

727
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: We didn't hear from Al Sharpton for six months. The

728
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: next time we saw Al Sharpton, he was on a

729
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: podium talking about we don't need to fly commercial because

730
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: we can fly Tyler Perry's private jet. I said, that's why.

731
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not hearing back from him. Okay. Then we

732
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: had our beautiful sister, Stephanie Mills. Yes, okay, who is

733
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: she don't play?

734
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 2: Yes?

735
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: Right? I told her what happened since her the audio.

736
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: Now don't know if she listened to that audio or not.

737
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: But however, she called Tyler Perry. She said, Monique, Tyler

738
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: Perry does not want to revisit this. Okay, fine. While

739
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: we're on the phone, Tyler Perry calls her back and says,

740
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: I will meet with Monique, but not with her husband.

741
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: And you ready for this? And now Monique has to

742
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: apologize publicly to say Oprah and I had nothing to

743
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: do with messing up her.

744
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 2: Career, but that'd be a lie. Looking at goddamn camera,

745
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: I thought I thought that was a stage the way

746
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: you look at the camera.

747
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: Yes, because you heard it, yes, right, yes, So when

748
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: you have when you hear what this man is saying,

749
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: So I said, Stephanie, tell Tyler Perry, never will I

750
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: meet with him without my husband. And I owe no apology,

751
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna give one that goes away, Kevin Hart. Now,

752
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: you know when Kat Williams said Gatekeepers, Yes, Kevin Hart,

753
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: I do his podcast, yes, and I want you all

754
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: to re listen to the podcast so you can hear

755
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: it for yourself. When he first comes on, he says,

756
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: you're like my mother, You're like my aunt, you're like

757
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: my sister. Okay. Then we do the podcast. We speak

758
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: about the Tyler Perry situation Oprah Winfrey. He said, I

759
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: don't really know Oprah, but I'm gonna reach out to Tyler.

760
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Kevin kept his word. He reached out

761
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: to Tyler Perry. Kevin Hart called me back about maybe

762
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: a week or so later. He said, MO, I talked

763
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: to Tyler. He said, he don't want to revisit it.

764
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: He said, but I tell you what, let's move past

765
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: that mod. Let's just move past that and let's just

766
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: do great things. So whatever now, I want you to

767
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: hear me, Kevin Hart, Let's move past that mod. Let's

768
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: do some great things together. Don't even worry about it.

769
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: Whatever y'all want to do, I will partner with you.

770
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: I'll executive produce with you. You just let me know

771
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: what you want to do now let me say that

772
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: before we go any further, because I want to make

773
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: sure I give Kevin Hart his proper credit. When my

774
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: family was up against the wall, Kevin Hart wrote us

775
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: a check and said, here you go. We're forever grateful

776
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: for that. When we were able to give it back,

777
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 1: we said, brother, we appreciate you with some interest on top,

778
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: because I don't ever want nobody to think me and

779
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: my husband, So I want to make sure I put

780
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: that out there that brother really helped us out when

781
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: we needed to be helped out. Then when he came

782
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: back with I got you. I didn't ask Kevin Heart

783
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: to do anything. He said, our executive produce, I'll partner

784
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: with you. I said, good shit, Kevin, because we're in

785
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: a deal with in Demoll and we're trying to get

786
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: our talk show back.

787
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: MO.

788
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, I got you. Now. Kevin Hart is

789
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: one of the biggest entertainers right now in the world

790
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: right and was Then we got off the phone with

791
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart. We called in de Mall immediately and said,

792
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: Kevin Hast said whatever we want to do, he got us.

793
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna partner executive use. They was like, oh, this

794
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: is incredible because when you put Kevin Hart name on it,

795
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: you already know what it is.

796
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: Correct.

797
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: Two weeks go by, we get a call from in

798
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: deomol In Demo says, we just got a call from

799
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart's manager, Dave Becky, and Dave Becky said, Kevin

800
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: doesn't want anything to do with Monique. So whatever she

801
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: told y'all, he doesn't want to do anything with nothing.

802
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't want any any kind of relationship

803
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: with Monique.

804
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: So what changed between the two weeks and when? And

805
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 2: plus he gave your check, you gave the money back,

806
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 2: then said he would partner with you executive produce whatever

807
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: you need more? Hey, we got you. So what transpired

808
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: or what do you think transpired between then that two

809
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 2: week period?

810
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: Well, soon as we got off the phone and they

811
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: told us what Kevin manager, David Becky said, I called

812
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart immediately. I said, hey, baby, we just got

813
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: off the phone with end Demorrow And they said, Dave

814
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: Becky called them up and said, you don't want anything

815
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: to do with me. He said, Mo, that's a miscommunication.

816
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now. I said, wait a minute,

817
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: are you okay, toh with this white man calling them up?

818
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: Getting in between our relationship. Something you said. He said, Mo,

819
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: that's a miscommunication and we're gonna talk tuesday. Don't worry

820
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: about it. I'm telling you right now, it's a miscommunication

821
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: that was two years ago. If you talked to him,

822
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: I talked to him. I've never talked back to Kevin

823
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: Hart again. So that's what we're faced with when you

824
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: allow somebody to come in between a relationship with a

825
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: woman that you said, I'm like your mother. You said

826
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: them like these things. I didn't ask you for that.

827
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: So everything that baby was saying sitting here, everything he

828
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: was saying was on the up and up. Because when

829
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,959
Speaker 1: you hear people say get the anger out your heart,

830
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: Oh man, no one's saying he's lying. No one ever

831
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: said I was lying. It's so easy to discount and

832
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: devalue because of what we look like. However, when it

833
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: comes to Tyler Perry, I will not allow you to

834
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: discount or devalue because that is your voice on that audio.

835
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: Remember on Good Times when Penny's mother was whooping up

836
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: on you and she had recorded it. That's you one tape.

837
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: So how does it go from you saying you're going

838
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: to give me an apology to now, I owe you

839
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: an apology.

840
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: But what are you an apology for?

841
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: What could I possibly owe you an apology for when

842
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 1: you've admitted See when Lee Daniel says to me, because

843
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: Cookie from the show Empire, I was offered that role.

844
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: Now to Roger baby it listen here, however, I was

845
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: offered that then felid to call me back and say,

846
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: baby girl, they said you're too difficult to work with.

847
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: But you here on an audio that a man told

848
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: David Talbert, I was difficult to work with. Do you

849
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: see how that cost my family?

850
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 2: Yes?

851
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: And with no accountability because oh it's the great Tyler Perry. No,

852
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: you've got to be accountable for that. Oprah Winford, You've

853
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: got to be accountable for the things you've done with

854
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: my family. You've got to be accountable for that.

855
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: Is there any relationship between you and Tyler and you

856
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: and Oprah currently?

857
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: No?

858
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: No, But I thought there was an apology. I read that.

859
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: I thought I read somewhere that Oprah had issued you

860
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 2: an apology and Tyler had issued an apology.

861
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: That's not correct. No, No, the.

862
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: Only person that's given you an apology saw it.

863
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: It's Lee Daniels. That's the only person. So we are

864
00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 1: in a place where we're too afraid to call him

865
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: for what it is. We're too afraid to say, if

866
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: it looked like a duck in the quack like a duck,

867
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: what is it, Shannon, It's a duck. So again you

868
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: see the struggle of the black woman. As I'm sitting

869
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: here talking to you and you say, Mogul, why would

870
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: you record him? But you heard the man violate me.

871
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: The first thing wasn't I can't believe that cat did

872
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: that to you? It's why would you do it? And

873
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: we understand it because we've been conditioned that.

874
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: Way because when you you had to get somehow, because

875
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: when you're telling people these are lies, nobody is believing Monique.

876
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: So now even though you have him record his voice

877
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: and that's him and he's saying he made it up,

878
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: now it's no longer, Oh man, I can't believe he

879
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: lied on mo more. Why do you record it? So

880
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: now they're putting the owner's back on you.

881
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: Where's the win? How do we win? How does a

882
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: black woman win? When you say here, he is right here.

883
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: And I'll look to the community and say, how long

884
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: do we allow us to keep being exploited, used up,

885
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: taking advantage of, and because we think somebody can give

886
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: us an opportunity, we just say, I'm not gonna say nothing.

887
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: If we keep operating like that, Shannon, You're gonna have

888
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: a whole lot of us sitting right here in this

889
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: same seat, almost telling the same story.

890
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: Why do you think Tyler is afraid to meet with

891
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: you and your husband? Why does it need to be

892
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: you one on one when he meet with other representatives

893
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: and their client. What is it about you that he

894
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: feels it needs to be just you? And he does

895
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: he think your husband is some kind of negative influence

896
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: on you. He thinks the husband is saying things that

897
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: Monique probably wouldn't say if I just had had an

898
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: opportunity to talk to her one on one. What do

899
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 2: you think that is?

900
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 1: Let me say, yes, people better be glad my husband

901
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: is by my side because they have people in Hollywood

902
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: that know wherever you act up is where I show up.

903
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: People know in Hollywood, baby, Shayna. And I don't say

904
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: it with a badge of honor, It's just what it is. Well,

905
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: I've had to say who you think you talking to?

906
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: And we're sitting there with the President of the studio

907
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 1: or the my patience level, it's not gonna allow. I've

908
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: been molested, I've been violated. So the moment I see

909
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: you trying to do it, we're gonna have to address it.

910
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: My husband is nothing but a gentleman. And you know

911
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: why people have a problem with my husband because he

912
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: right to it. There's no we're gonna dance around the bush.

913
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: He's right to it. And people like Tyler Perry, people

914
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: like Oprah Winfrey, they look at my husband and say,

915
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: how dare you be so direct? How dare you not

916
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: put your eyes down when you're talking to me? How

917
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: dare you do that? My husband is also my manager.

918
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: Why would he want to exclude my management. It's like Tyler,

919
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: you should want my husband to be there. You may

920
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 1: want him to be sitting right there so that way

921
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: we can have a conversation that everyone can be heard.

922
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: But I appreciate you, Shannon, because most people are too

923
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: afraid that's heard the tape. They're too afraid to say, no,

924
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: I heard it and this is what he said. I

925
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: appreciate Ts Madison because Ts Madison was the first one

926
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: to say no, I heard what he said. So when

927
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: folks were trying to jump on her. She knocked down

928
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: for the black woman. Listen, baby, y'all don't even understand

929
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: the fights that says to be having when ain't nobody

930
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: watching for the black woman?

931
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: Right?

932
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: So I appreciate you looking in that camera.

933
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, sometimes there's some some black people,

934
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: some not all. Some that my grandfather used to say, MO,

935
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: is that if you're not careful, you'll become the very

936
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: thing you despise the most of the person. Now, what

937
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: do we despise most about Trump supporters president ex President

938
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: Trump is that no no matter what he says, no

939
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: matter what he does, they give him an out. There's

940
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 2: some people in our community, no matter what powerful black

941
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: people say or do in our community, will give them

942
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: an out. And we can't, and we've become the very

943
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: thing we despise the most. What we despise most about

944
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 2: President Trump's ex President Trump support us is that no

945
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 2: matter what he does or says, it's okay, Yes, we

946
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: can't do that. You can't. We can't if somebody is wrong,

947
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: Like you said, MO, if somebody is wrong, we have

948
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 2: to be man or woman enough to say they're wrong,

949
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 2: regardless of what comes along with.

950
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: That they don't know, They don't understand what them saying

951
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: i'm sorry will mean for them. See when I.

952
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: Read this, because that's not for you and I'm sorry.

953
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: It's not for the person that you offended. It's for

954
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: you because currently you're in hostage your feelings because you

955
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: have to live with that. You know that what you've done.

956
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 1: So when you see a woman say me turning seventy,

957
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: I'm so happy because I've never heard anyone stop it.

958
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: Stop it because there's a black woman that has been

959
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: calling your name for over a decade that you seem

960
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: to want to make go away. And I know I'm

961
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,479
Speaker 1: not the only one.

962
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 2: Would would you sit if Oprah called MO today, would

963
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: you sit down and have a conversation with her?

964
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I'll do if Oprah call

965
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: me today, Shannon Sharp, we will sit down and have

966
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: a conversation with Oprah Winfrey. We will sit down and

967
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: have a conversation with Tyler Perry. We will sit down

968
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: and have a conversation with the presidents of lions Gate.

969
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: We will sit down and have a conversation with anyone

970
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: that is I'm gonna say brave enough to sit down

971
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: and have a conversation. But what happens is within seconds,

972
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: within seconds, if Tyler Perry was to sit right here,

973
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: you will say, man, I heard you. What you trying

974
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: to tell me about the system. Within seconds, Oprah Winfrey

975
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: would know that. People would say, hold up. See when

976
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: I speak about Oprah Winfrey, and let me be clear,

977
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: I love that sister because she's our sister. She just

978
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: got to come back across the street. We got the

979
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: light on. When I speak about Oprah Winfrey, I speak

980
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: about that woman because she's spoken about me. And when

981
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: you begin to speak about me privately, I'm gonna speak

982
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: about you publicly. You've been unfair, you've been unjust, and

983
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: you watched the black woman be thrown under the bus

984
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: and you said nothing. And here's what's interesting as well.

985
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: My husband was saying to me after I won the

986
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: Oscar Award, right and she had the people come, you know,

987
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: to talk to the Oscar winners, and I go on

988
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: the stage and I talk to the Oscar winners. Well,

989
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: when we go to a commercial, the people in the

990
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: audience and I say this humbly. As my husband was

991
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: telling me, he said, Mama, they wasn't screaming Oprah. They

992
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: were screaming Monique right so much so I had to say,

993
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 1: y'all gonna shut that shit up. Now we get ready

994
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: to go back on the ad. We having fun, right,

995
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: he said, But I watched Oprah. He said that I

996
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: watched her almost turning her seat like they screaming her name. Now,

997
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: some people will say, oh, Monique, are you reaching? Well,

998
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: let me tell you what then happens the movie The Butler.

999
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: That movie was offered to me. Lee Daniels came out

1000
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: and said, I did offer Monik the Butler, But as

1001
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: he said to me, he said, Moe, at the time,

1002
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 1: I didn't have no power and I didn't have no money.

1003
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: So when Oprah says she wanted it, so who played

1004
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: the lead role in The Butler? Oprah Winfrey? Lee Daniels

1005
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: was getting ready to do a bio pic on Richard Pryor,

1006
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: and he offered me the grandmother, who then calls Lee

1007
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: Daniels and says, I want to be the grandmother. So

1008
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: as you're looking at me, it's the same way I'm

1009
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: looking at that sister, and I'm saying, why don't we

1010
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: sit down and have a conversation, because the way things

1011
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: could look, it may not be that way. But just

1012
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: the way things look, Oprah, just the way you would

1013
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: have my family on your show. Oprah.

1014
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: One might say, mo, well, I mean if the roller

1015
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: they're looking for a black.

1016
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: Big go ahead and say sharing it's okayful with his words,

1017
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 1: he wants say fat black woman. If the role looking

1018
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: for a fat black woman. Mom, You're like, you know,

1019
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: this is why we love you, Uncle Shae, shape, because

1020
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 1: we want you to say a fat black woman. Now, men, Oprah,

1021
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: fit the damn description shape fat black? Don't we fit it?

1022
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: You do? But I'll be right back here to me.

1023
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 2: I'll be your neighbor up there where you live.

1024
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: At Listen here, listen here, listen here. So so are

1025
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 1: you lying?

1026
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: Now?

1027
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have your big ass sit in here

1028
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame and you're scared to say

1029
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: shit okay, And I want to excuse myself Andy the

1030
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: babies that might be watching this, because I wasn't gonna

1031
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,959
Speaker 1: say no spicy things, but shay shaye, get me wrong. Now,

1032
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: come on, a shack.

1033
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 2: One might say, or people might say, well, mo, I

1034
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 2: mean the role called for a heavenset black woman, you, Oprah,

1035
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: y'all fit the roles yes, how do we know that

1036
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 2: she wasn't off of the role at long and people

1037
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 2: think that she's better, more and more qualified than you.

1038
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: It don't work like that, Shannon. You can't offer me

1039
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: once you say, I want you, right, that's what it is. Okay, Okay,

1040
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: But I don't have the money to fund a production.

1041
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: I don't have the connections to go to the studio

1042
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: and say, listen, I want to do this movie. She does.

1043
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: So when Lee says, hey, baby, she got the money,

1044
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: go get it. But someone would just say, how is

1045
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: that working out like that? How's that happening like that?

1046
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: How is it that things that was offered to Monique

1047
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: you seem to be playing now. I told Oprah about that.

1048
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: See everything we're saying to you right now.

1049
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: He was having a conversation here.

1050
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't play the behind the back. I don't play that.

1051
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna share with share. There's one thing I will

1052
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: share with you that I'm not shared with anybody. But

1053
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: I don't play there behind the back and all of that.

1054
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: I say, listen, let me try to get to you first.

1055
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: Now if you avoid me, okay, But I tried to

1056
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: be respectful. I tried to call you first, when she

1057
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: had my family on her show. I tried to call

1058
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: you first. I tried to talk to you privately, but

1059
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: then you became the great, the great, mighty Oprah Winfrey,

1060
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: and you were too busy to talk. Well, now I'm

1061
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: gonna talk about it. This woman has overstepped with me

1062
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: so in so many ways that somebody would say if

1063
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: we wasn't Monique and Oprah Winfrey in the entertainment business,

1064
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: and we was Monique and Oprah Winfrey that worked at Coshco.

1065
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 1: I see you in the breakthron, I see edge cash

1066
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: register because she's overstepped.

1067
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 2: Wow. So I don't know, mo, Nikki. This might be

1068
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: the term crossing of the rubicon. We might be going

1069
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 2: too far. I can't.

1070
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 1: I don't.

1071
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: How do you if you feel that way, because clearly,

1072
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 2: if you feel this way, now I get why you

1073
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 2: feel this way. I don't know. Like I said, I

1074
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 2: don't know this, don't. I'm taking you at your word,

1075
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 2: not not the title, because I've listened to the audio. Yes,

1076
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about that. I'm just talking about Oprah. Yes,

1077
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: I'm just taking you at your word. Yes, if you

1078
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 2: feel this way, is it possible she feels the exact

1079
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: same way about you.

1080
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: How could she? How could she? What have I taken

1081
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: from Oprah? When did I have Oprah's mother and father

1082
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: on my show? When did I have anybody come and

1083
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: speak about Oprah Winfrey on the Monique Show. That's never happened.

1084
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: So how could she feel that way? Would you have

1085
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: done that had her family? Or yeah, let me tell

1086
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: you how we operate. When we had the Monique Show,

1087
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: there was a comedian on that and he was trying

1088
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: to joke t I's wife tiny. My husband walked out

1089
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: in the middle of his set. He said cut. He said, brother,

1090
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: we don't do that here. We uplift our folks. We

1091
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: don't play that. So no, I would not have done

1092
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: that when Oprah Winfrey had my family. And I'll tell y'all,

1093
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: and I'm looking over. I'm looking around, baby, because they

1094
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: have people here, yes, okay, And I don't want to

1095
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: be rude to the people at Shase Shay's club. You

1096
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: got other people in the club. Right, When Oprah Winfrey

1097
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: called me up and she said, I got a call

1098
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: from your brother. And then this is after I won

1099
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: the Oscar Ward right, and your brother wants to come

1100
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: on the show, and he wants to apologize to you

1101
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: for molesting you, and he wants to tell other people

1102
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: how to look out for a predator. I said, Oprah,

1103
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: I said, I don't want anything to do with that cat.

1104
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: I said, but and then she said, well, if you

1105
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: want me to scratch the show, I will scratch it.

1106
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: I said, Sis, don't scratch it because he could be

1107
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: a different person, and I don't want to get in

1108
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: the way if that cat is a different person. I

1109
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: just don't want no parts of it, right, Okay. When

1110
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: I hung up that phone, Shannon, I was like, I

1111
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: appreciate that sister, like she didn't have to call me.

1112
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: She didn't have to call me, and said, I have

1113
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: your brother. I stopped seeing commercials with my mother and

1114
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: my father and my other brother who used to be

1115
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: my manager, who knew the fear that I had with

1116
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: the brother that was up on stage right. We never

1117
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: talked about my mother being there.

1118
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: He never told you that you.

1119
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: Know how you feel about your.

1120
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: Grandparents, Yes, absolutely.

1121
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: You know the honor and how you speak about them.

1122
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: Imagine you done seeing your granddaddy and your grandmama on

1123
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: a show and they're talking about somebody that violated you

1124
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: and that woman didn't tell you that they were going

1125
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: to be there. How would you feel.

1126
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: I would feel like you feel like you felt betrayed.

1127
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: That is exactly how I felt and how I feel.

1128
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: And it's not oh, I'm in a no, I understand it,

1129
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: But you portrayed me, sister, and I'm not the only

1130
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: one God.

1131
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: At the time when she called you, she said it

1132
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: was just your brother.

1133
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: Just my brother. And when my mother was on that shoulder,

1134
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: you know what I had to deal with, Shannon, What's that.

1135
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: I would be in the store and I would have

1136
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: elderly women coming up to me and they would say,

1137
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: your mama ain't shit.

1138
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 2: Wow.

1139
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: Now they wasn't lying, Shannon. Okay, they wasn't lying. Baby.

1140
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta let the truth be the god damn truth.

1141
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: Sometime you got to just go with it. But still,

1142
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: it's my mother and I'm in hand because when she

1143
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm having to defend something. And I got that often

1144
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: with them telling me what my mother wasn't because you

1145
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: did not tell me. Had Oprah Winfrey said I'm gonna

1146
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: have your mama, I'd have said, shut that shit right.

1147
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: I don't need nobody seeing my mama be greedy. I

1148
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: don't need the world see shut it down. Now there's

1149
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: a white woman named Barbara Walters. They called her first,

1150
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: and she said, Monique, I told your family I can't

1151
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: do that to you. I wouldn't do that to you.

1152
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: You just won that award. Like, why would I do that?

1153
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? This, I mean, you're here. Why would I bring

1154
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,959
Speaker 2: something that I know that you don't want to talk about?

1155
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 2: You lived it. Why do I need to replay it again?

1156
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: Ask her? You came a right there, baby, Ask her.

1157
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: See this is where you get juicy, right, because you're

1158
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: you're you're saying the right things, but you're asking me

1159
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: questions that I can't answer. I can't answer why Oprah

1160
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: Winfrey did what Oprah Winfrey did. Only Oprah Winfrey can

1161
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: answer for her actions. So again, stop being scared. No,

1162
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: I knew that would get him my line. I knew that.

1163
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: I'm back in baby, I knew that again.

1164
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 2: But even this show, I have a producer, and I

1165
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 2: give him a lot of leadway, but I've had people

1166
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 2: reach out and say, well, a family member saying something,

1167
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: and I want to come on your show and refute it.

1168
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 2: That is what we do here, right.

1169
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: It's like it's almost you don't cross that barrier.

1170
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 2: Don't do the family thing.

1171
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: You don't do the family thing. And I'm gonna bring

1172
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: this up. I wasn't gonna do it, but damn it,

1173
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: this is this seat, this sea makes you go truth,

1174
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: tell it. No, tell the damn truth. Damn to tell

1175
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: the truth. Because family is sacred.

1176
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be.

1177
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: And we don't cross the line with family. And people

1178
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: begin to get comfortable to jump on the monique bandwagon

1179
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: of money doing things wrong. And she's doing this and

1180
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: she's doing that. And there's a brother named Dale Hughley yep,

1181
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: and until he take accountability, I won't let it go.

1182
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: What because what would you get? Ray say?

1183
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, what did d L do?

1184
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: Let me change? Baby? That voice went not. Didn't d

1185
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: L his friend? He like, that's my friend?

1186
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 2: No, I've met Deal on several occasions. I don't know

1187
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 2: Dal like that. Do I know d L? Say like

1188
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: I know an earthquake? No? Do I know? Since I've

1189
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 2: interviewed Kat, had several conversations with him, Do I know

1190
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 2: DL on that level? No?

1191
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: Right, See, when we say family is sacred, right, family

1192
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: is sacred, and we know that you don't cross the

1193
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: line when it comes to family. Correct, right, I do

1194
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: DL's radio show. Yes, Dal Hugely is not there, his

1195
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: team is there, and Shannon. We having a great time.

1196
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean, baby, we having a great time. We going

1197
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: for it, back and forth. When we get to the

1198
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: end of the show, they said, you want to play

1199
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: a game? Well, I want to play? I said, sure,

1200
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: a sugar, Let's play a game. And it's a game

1201
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: called would you rather?

1202
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 2: Okay, now, Monique, you already you should have said I'm

1203
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 2: too old for this game.

1204
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: Wait, man, we're having fun, baby, right, we're having a

1205
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: good time sharing it. Okay, we I mean it's the

1206
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: sister that and it's two other guys. We're having a

1207
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: great time. It's a beautiful black uriney cookout. We're having

1208
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: a good time.

1209
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 2: Okay.

1210
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: Would you say your wife was your family? Is that

1211
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: considered family?

1212
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1213
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:40,439
Speaker 1: So your husband is considered stading. Okay, So here we go.

1214
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: They said, Monique, we want to play a game of

1215
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: would you rather? Let's go would you rather your husband

1216
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: sleep with Lee Daniels with a condom or Krinne Stephens

1217
01:04:54,760 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 1: without one? Really, Monique, Now, as y'all are watch and

1218
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: right now, we haven't heard this doing. Y'all going, they're

1219
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: doing the same thing in the studio. They're going, I

1220
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: can that is exactly what happened. Now. I said to

1221
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: the team, how does that uplift our community? I said,

1222
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: sister and her name is Jasmine, How could you ask

1223
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: another sister that? Well, we just planned, I said, tell

1224
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: me the joke and that because I don't know what

1225
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: you're insinuating, then you're involving people that have nothing to

1226
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: do with nothing, like what are y'all doing? So I said,

1227
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call my brother d L. I'm going to

1228
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: call my brother. I call d L. Hughley on the phone.

1229
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: I say, hey, baby, yeah huh. That's how he responds,

1230
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: yeah you yes, he because they called him to tell

1231
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: hypno Moniq's gonna be calling like this. It was getting crazy.

1232
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, just let me get on the phone with

1233
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: my brother, right Hey, d L. Yeah, I said, listen,

1234
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: I just got off the phone with your team and

1235
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: they wanted to play this game, would you rather? And

1236
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: it was like stupid, like ask me about my husband

1237
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: and Lee Daniels and Karen Stephens and his exact words, Well,

1238
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: that's how we do it, I said, d O how

1239
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: does that uplift our community? And again, I don't know

1240
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: what y'all trying to insinuate, but brother, what you doing,

1241
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: Like I said, that's just how we do it. So

1242
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: it is what it is now. It got so ugly

1243
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: that my attorney had to send a cease and desist

1244
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: so it never aired. So we have like when Kat

1245
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: Williams talk and people truth tell Us talk, we have

1246
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: receipts to everything we're saying. That's how that whole thing

1247
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: got started. Okay, it's family. My husband is my family. Yeah,

1248
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: now you babies that are really good with this internet.

1249
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: Through the years, I've watched DL speak ill of me

1250
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: through the years. I never knew me. I never knew

1251
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: Dale Higley had a problem with me. But when Cassay

1252
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: all a group, he forgot to put d O hugely

1253
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: in the group. Through the years, I was bitter. I

1254
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: was dangerous with what I was doing, saying that it

1255
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: was inequality. My husband didn't know what he was doing.

1256
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: This went on through the years. I was unloved all

1257
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: of these things, and I said to myself, I'm gonna

1258
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: see you. I'm gonna see you. I didn't go on

1259
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: nobody's show. I didn't say nothing to nobody, but I

1260
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: knew the time would come that I would see him.

1261
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: Were scheduled to do a show in Los Angeles. I

1262
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: was the headliner of that show. His name was on it.

1263
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: Then his name came off. I didn't question it, but

1264
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: I knew I'm gonna see him right eventually. Okay, Now

1265
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: we have a show in Detroit. Contractually I was the headliner.

1266
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: D O. Hugley posted a memo. Now, when you signed

1267
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 1: your deal for the Ravens, did you sign a contract

1268
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: or memorandum?

1269
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 2: I signed a contract.

1270
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: You see how you say that? Like anybody that knows

1271
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: good business, you signed the memo was saying this is

1272
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: what I would like, But the contract is saying this

1273
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 1: is what it is. Okay. He put out a memo

1274
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: to our community, and that touched me a little different

1275
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: because I was saying, why would you lie to our babies,

1276
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: Because now they're thinking if they send somebody a memo,

1277
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,480
Speaker 1: that's what they're supposed to get. Okay. I was contractually

1278
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: signed to go as the headliner, right do Yo hugely

1279
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: didn't come into the building until nine thirty. Now, contractually

1280
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: I said I have to be on stage by nine

1281
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: thirty because if the show starts at eight, I refuse

1282
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: to keep an audience waiting. That is disrespectful to the board.

1283
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: When I went out on that stage, Shannon, I made

1284
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: sure everything I said he heard me, because now you're

1285
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: here and I'm going to say it to you. And

1286
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: I said some things on that stage that I said

1287
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: he was cowardly, and some folks said, how could you

1288
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 1: say that? How could you do that? And then I

1289
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 1: posted some things to say, this is what I meant. See.

1290
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: You came after my husband, and when you had a

1291
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: chance to fix it, when you had a chance to say,

1292
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 1: mo my bad. You know we don't even get down

1293
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: like that. You told me it is what it is.

1294
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: And until he's brave enough and courageous enough to say

1295
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: this is what really happened, y'all have never known me

1296
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: to be no shit starter. Folks ain't never known me

1297
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: to go and kick a sandwich out on somebody's hand

1298
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: it's hungry. But what people do know is if you

1299
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: kick me, damn if I ain't gonna kick you back,

1300
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: because that's fair play. So there was one left out

1301
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: the pack. And when you have people that continually don't

1302
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: take accountability, that's why you see us in the state

1303
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: of affairs we're in.

1304
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 2: I'm a firm believera mode that everybody don't play the same.

1305
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 2: And someone once told me, what is joke to you

1306
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 2: as death to someone else?

1307
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: What is joke? That's why we we don't play with

1308
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: people's families. Oh, we had the monich Show, the radio show. Listen.

1309
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: You can't come on here and speak ill of no

1310
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: one because we don't play like that, because we know

1311
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 1: how this business works. So when you allow that to happen,

1312
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 1: what do you think is gonna come back your way?

1313
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: What do you think? And D. L. Higley? Please, no, brother,

1314
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: we still love you. Just take accountability for it and

1315
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 1: we move forward.

1316
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 2: I remember reading something about the situation in Detroit. I

1317
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 2: didn't know the depth of the magnitude of it. I

1318
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: remember meeting something about a memo about I guess it's

1319
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 2: an agendum that was added on. But the contract is

1320
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 2: the contract.

1321
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: The contract is the contract. And what happens is because

1322
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 1: of the messenger. It was easy to pile on. It

1323
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: was easy to pile on. And then when you have

1324
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: out some of our black folk that go sit in

1325
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: front of a white man and speak ill of their people.

1326
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, yoll, what are we doing? What are we doing?

1327
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: What are we doing?

1328
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:00,560
Speaker 2: What?

1329
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: What are we coming to? That We're gonna sit in

1330
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: front of this white man. I can't even say his name.

1331
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: I refuse everybody know who he is. We sit in

1332
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: front of him and we just let this man say

1333
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 1: any and everything about us, and then we go right

1334
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 1: in with him. That now, see that to me is dangerous.

1335
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: And y'all, babies, that's good with this little computer, don't

1336
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,919
Speaker 1: take my word. You can just go through the years

1337
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: of this cat just running his mouth and it's like,

1338
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: stop doing that, because what are we saying to the

1339
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: babies coming behind us?

1340
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna continue this, but I want to get into

1341
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:41,759
Speaker 2: where you're from. The DMV. Yeah, do you realize, like Chappelle, Martin,

1342
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 2: Tommy Davis, an earthquake yourself? What's in the soil in

1343
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 2: the DMV that got you guys? I mean you've done television,

1344
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 2: stand up. All these guys have done television and stand

1345
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 2: up and are great at it. When you look at

1346
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 2: like Chappelle, Chappelle walked away, like walked away from and said, nah,

1347
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 2: I want to do my own thing because I'm not

1348
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: gonna let you guys hold me Oscar. Yes, but Martin

1349
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 2: still does television. Tommy Davidson doesn't do as much television.

1350
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 2: Quake is not in television, but he has, you know,

1351
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 2: have this all his gigs going on. When you look

1352
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 2: at the success that a Chappelle, Martin Earthquakes habit, and

1353
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 2: you said, hold on, and none of them guys went

1354
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 2: on Oscar and none of them guys did what I

1355
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 2: did and on the movie set, and they're having the

1356
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 2: commercial sense that there's a habit that should be more.

1357
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: If I was a white woman, do you know what

1358
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: my name would be? Wealthy Melissa McCarthy, Oh, my goodness.

1359
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: If I was a white woman, my name Melissa McCarthy,

1360
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: same track record, five year sitcom and syndication, same track record.

1361
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: The opportunities are not the same. So when you have it,

1362
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 1: and as you read all of those things of me,

1363
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 1: you said, way a minute, mo, none of them have this,

1364
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: None of them have that. We get judged by a

1365
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: different stick. We could judged by different stick. And then

1366
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: when I had people judging me, I'm like, you judging

1367
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 1: me by your yard stick. You've not done what I've done.

1368
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,520
Speaker 1: And I say that humbly. You've not had the accomplishments

1369
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: that I had. When I hear brother Di, y'all will

1370
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,759
Speaker 1: huguly say, well, that netflix special. I just accepted anything

1371
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: whatever they gave me. These are not my words, they're his. Well,

1372
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: that's how you do business. I'm not mad at you

1373
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: accepting anything. Why are you mad at me saying I

1374
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 1: won't accept anything. That's the difference. It's like people were

1375
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 1: judging me. I was having people sharing, Okay, I didn't

1376
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: know we had so many tender people in our group.

1377
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know we had so many tender love. I

1378
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: didn't know we had so many tender people. And I

1379
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be on the front line with these

1380
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: tender people where it's like, oh, I can't believe you

1381
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: said that.

1382
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: I can't.

1383
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: But it's what I said, the truth. It's what I said,

1384
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: the truth. No, I didn't put no sugar on it.

1385
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: It was shit right, and I didn't try to make

1386
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: it taste good. We gotta stop running away from what

1387
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 1: is real and we run into fantasy. And that's how

1388
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: come we keep staying where we sit.

1389
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 2: MO before you became Monique, that everybody has seen over

1390
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 2: the last two three decades. What were some of the

1391
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 2: jobs that you had that you like? Man, this ain't

1392
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: for me. I knew this is just a holdover. You're

1393
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 2: just a breeze.

1394
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: Every job I had, baby, it was special. Wasn't every

1395
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: job I had?

1396
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 2: Baby?

1397
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I worked at the drive

1398
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 1: through in Popeye's. I worked in the drive through in Pope's.

1399
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: And that was my microphone. Every time somebody came to

1400
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: that window, I was on stage, Welcome to Pope's. My

1401
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: name is Monique. What would you like today? And they

1402
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: would say, Hey Monique, I'm Shanning. Hey Shanning. How you

1403
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: doing baby? What's your order? And you give me your order?

1404
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: And then I say, would you like a high apple

1405
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: pie with that's sharing it? You say, you know what?

1406
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 1: Mo nig I shure it was. Come on around here, baby,

1407
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 1: listen here Pope's win my damn money, cause I was

1408
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: a seller. Baby. If you wanted the two piece, I

1409
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: gave you four hmhm you. We wasn't gonna lose no

1410
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: way coming do my damn window share. That's why I

1411
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 1: ain't lost no damn weight. What I saw like if

1412
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: you got two pieces, I hate too up. Welcome by hi, baby,

1413
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 1: come on now.

1414
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 2: That was That was your microphone? That was that was

1415
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 2: the beginning of Monique because you was owning. Did you

1416
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 2: know that's what you were doing?

1417
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: What I knew I was doing was walking in my dream.

1418
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 1: The microphone said it's possible. When I stood in my

1419
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 1: bathroom mirror and I wrapped the towel around me and

1420
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 1: it didn't go all the way, I wasn't devastated. Okay,

1421
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if they just didn't have enough money

1422
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: to buy me a whole damn towel, but I would

1423
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: still stand and that was my gown right and I

1424
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 1: would pick up that brush and I would say, I

1425
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't like to think, so I've always seen it?

1426
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 2: Did you always know that you were? You?

1427
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 1: Was Oscar always in the back of your mind? Did

1428
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,640
Speaker 1: you always Oscar? Was never in my mind?

1429
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 2: You just wanted to be in TV. You want to

1430
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 2: be in show business? What aspect did you want to do?

1431
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to be famous. I loved what it looked

1432
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 1: like with people being famous. I didn't know to say

1433
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: I want to be wealthy with the fame. I didn't

1434
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 1: know to be specific to ask for it, but I

1435
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: wanted to be famous.

1436
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 2: Who did you know that looked like Monique, that was

1437
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 2: famous Oprah Winfrey.

1438
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: So do you see how far this relationship goes. That's

1439
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: who I knew that looked like me. See, I didn't

1440
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: when people always asked me about the Oscar, right, but

1441
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: no one ever asked me about the Image Award. No

1442
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: one ever said to me, what did it feel like

1443
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: when they called your name for the NAACP Image Award

1444
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,600
Speaker 1: And they were people that looked like me? Because we

1445
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: put so much weight on that award that we it's

1446
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: such an honor, and it's an honor for any award,

1447
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: not just that one. But as a little girl, I

1448
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: never watched the Oscars because nobody looked like me. So

1449
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: I was like, this is not for me all. But

1450
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 1: when I watched the Image Award, baby, those people look

1451
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: like me. The BET Awards, those people look like me.

1452
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: So I was honored the first time they called my

1453
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: name for an Image Award. When I tell you, sharnon

1454
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 1: that night, baby, when they can call this little fat

1455
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: girl name from Baltimore and the winner goes to the

1456
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: walk goes to Monique, Well listen here, I got so

1457
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: good with him calling my name, and this is what

1458
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: had to humble me. You will get humble baby when

1459
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: you just think they get ready to call your name.

1460
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: I had wont it like three years in a row.

1461
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 1: This the fourth year. Oh hey, you ain't now again.

1462
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: Let me situate myself and my chair. So here come

1463
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: the category. Hey baby, the best accress in the sitcom.

1464
01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: They named me Tisha Campbell, and I cannot remember the sisters, right,

1465
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 1: I know they get ready to say and the award

1466
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: goes to Monique. So I got to because I'm a

1467
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: big girl. You got to screwed up so you can

1468
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: be ready to push up, right. So I screwed up

1469
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: and get my down together. And the winner is Tea,

1470
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: said Campbell. I said, all right, girl, want to get

1471
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 1: that wholelass? Is that right back down? But it was

1472
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 1: never the oscar for me, baby, It was never the

1473
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: oscar for me.

1474
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:26,679
Speaker 2: So how did stand up happen?

1475
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 1: Stand up happened on a dare. My brother came home

1476
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: one day and said he went down to the comedy

1477
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: club to do open mic night and he did so bad.

1478
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: He said they was boring me. But I was six

1479
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: beers in, so I thought the booze was applause. So

1480
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 1: my boy had to say man, this is stinking right.

1481
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: So we cleaning out the pool, and he says, I said,

1482
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: if I was there, I would have said And that

1483
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: was thirty minutes of what I would have said. Then

1484
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: he said, I dare you to go down next Wednesday

1485
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 1: and do open mic night. It was a club called

1486
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 1: Burke's in Baltimore. I went down that next Wednesday. She

1487
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 1: and I got a standing ovation and from that moment

1488
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 1: to this moment, were you hooked?

1489
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 2: I was?

1490
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: I was. It is nothing like and I'm sure you

1491
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: can appreciate it. Understand when you walk out on that

1492
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: football field and you walk and you smell it, and

1493
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 1: you walking into it, and you that little boy and

1494
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 1: you says I'm here, I'm still there. That little girl

1495
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: in me is still saying I'm here. But I'm a

1496
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 1: grown woman, right and I'm saying now that I'm here,

1497
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 1: you got to pay for it fairly. If not, I'm good,

1498
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 1: I just have to walk away.

1499
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 2: How much How different is that Monique? Not just an age, yes,

1500
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 2: but how different is that Monique to the windness sitting

1501
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 2: right here on this couch?

1502
01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 1: Oh, she grew up.

1503
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 2: That one was naive? Will you have a naive? Yes?

1504
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes? When you first come to Hollywood, Shannon and

1505
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: I got a show called The Parkers after I was

1506
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 1: in Hollywood less than ninety days, wow, ninety days. And

1507
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: you have agents and you have managers and you have attorneys, right,

1508
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: and they're telling you all the good things, and anybody.

1509
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 1: Everybody always said to me, you want to get the syndication. Yes,

1510
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: you want to get the syndication. Once you get the syndication,

1511
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: you work because you want to work, right, right.

1512
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 2: So syndication is what five years? One hundred episode?

1513
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 1: Syndication is one hundred episodes, right, So that's all I knew.

1514
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know to aks to be an executive producer

1515
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 1: of my own image, and nobody told me. I didn't

1516
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 1: know the for that. I didn't know to asks for

1517
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 1: after the third year of being on a successful sitcom

1518
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: that you could say, I now need a bonus. I

1519
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 1: didn't know to even negotiate that, and no one told

1520
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 1: me to negotiate that.

1521
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 2: They're definitely not going to tell you.

1522
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 1: All they kept saying is when you get the syndication,

1523
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: When you get the syndication, When you get the syndication, Well,

1524
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:22,680
Speaker 1: three years in The Parkers was in syndication. Now, no

1525
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 1: one told me that you learn it once you open

1526
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: your eyes. Because now I'm going around the country doing promos.

1527
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,679
Speaker 1: The Parkers is coming on at four o'clock in your city.

1528
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: The Parkers will be on at two thirty and Sacramento,

1529
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 1: y'all make sure y'all watch the Parkers that's coming on.

1530
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm not knowing I'm promoting the show in syndication. No

1531
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 1: one told me that all we're doing is saying if

1532
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: we get to five years. We got to five years,

1533
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten episodes. Me and a beautiful young

1534
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: lady named Countesspahn, who was my baby to this day.

1535
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: We had the Laverne and Shirley law. Right supposed to

1536
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 1: be equal. Once we got to the five years. Our

1537
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: attorney my attorney, and the age is that, oh, the

1538
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 1: Parker's made money. Y'all gonna get paid from the Parkers.

1539
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: It's made money. Okay, years go by. By two thousand

1540
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: and four, the Parkers we went off the air in

1541
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, right in five years. By two

1542
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, the Parkers had made eight hundred million dollars.

1543
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 1: Oh year, yeah, stay with me, money money, hey, come on, hey, yay,

1544
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 1: all right, Okay, okay, because we're waiting to get that

1545
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 1: money said, oh, coming, we get a call, we got

1546
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 1: to do an audit, you know, and everything. Okay, And

1547
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 1: that was in two thousand and nine that had made

1548
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 1: eight hundred million. We're now in twenty twenty four and

1549
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 1: they're trying to convince Countess one and nine that that

1550
01:22:54,360 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: show made no money by no m that I want

1551
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 1: to convince us that a show that costs sixty five

1552
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 1: roughly sixty five million dollars to make and our last

1553
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: year of shooting The Parkers counts Vaughan and I made

1554
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: fifty five thousand dollars apiece.

1555
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 2: That's it. How about you? Were you making an.

1556
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: Episode fifty five thousand dollars an episodes? Okay? So how

1557
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: many episodes five years? That last year we shot twenty

1558
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 1: two episodes? Okay, we made fifty five thousand dollars a

1559
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 1: piece at the end of a top rated sit.

1560
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 2: Helldo hold on time? On time? Are you saying you

1561
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 2: made fifty five thousand for twenty two episodes? Are you

1562
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 2: saying you made fifty five thousand per episode? Because I

1563
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 2: want to make sure I've hear you.

1564
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: Let me make sure you hear me correctly, we did

1565
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: twenty two episodes. Yes, we were paid fifty five thousand

1566
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 1: dollars per episode. Okay for twenty two shows. Okay, Okay,

1567
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 1: that's on a hit show that is unheard of. Yeah,

1568
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: because we're two black women, I don't know to fight

1569
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 1: for it, countless as young, countless as a baby in

1570
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: this business. So I don't know to say that.

1571
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 2: We should have been making a thousand, one hundred and

1572
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 2: fifty two hundred thousand of an episode.

1573
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 1: So now today y'all want to convince us that that

1574
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: show made no money. That show has made over two

1575
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: billion dollars, and I'm guesstimating, and you want to convince

1576
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 1: us that our percentage we made no money. We can't

1577
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 1: allow that to happen, right, That's why we're fighting. That's

1578
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: why we're saying no, no, guys, we can't sit on

1579
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 1: our hands like that. You know how many of us

1580
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 1: when you watch Good Times, when you watch the Jeffersons,

1581
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 1: when you watch Sam for the son whose family is

1582
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:48,879
Speaker 1: benefiting from our images? Because the damn show ain't ours. Wow,

1583
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,440
Speaker 1: You see why I fight the way I fight. Yeah,

1584
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: Because if it does not make sense, you have to

1585
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 1: explain it, and I'll go back to Tyler Perry. You

1586
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 1: know why Tyler Perry don't want to talk to my

1587
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: husband because he can't talk around him. My husband don't

1588
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: careing about that man's money. We don't care nothing about

1589
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: your title. We care about your character, brother, We care

1590
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: about your intention.

1591
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 2: What you're gonna pay?

1592
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:07,719
Speaker 1: What?

1593
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 2: What you what you're gonna pay?

1594
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 1: How you gonna make it right? How are you gonna

1595
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: make it right? Because if I am your aunt, Mary,

1596
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 1: and I really belonged to you as I really belong

1597
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 1: to you right now, Shannon, I am your sister and

1598
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: you heard something that was wrong.

1599
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 2: How how can Tyler Perry make it right? MO? Give

1600
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 2: you a job, give you your give you a sitcom?

1601
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 2: Say more? Okay, you know what? More sitcom? You're gonna

1602
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 2: be the executive producer. I'm gonna be a co executive producer.

1603
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:38,879
Speaker 2: You're gonna do the sitcom.

1604
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 1: If somebody cost you, Shannon Sharp, millions of dollars, yes,

1605
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: do you want to be compensated for what they cost

1606
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: you for a lie and a rumor? Yeah? So at

1607
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 1: that time I was making roughly between two and three

1608
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: million dollars a year, right, I set in that for

1609
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 1: over twelve for over a decade, like twelve years. You

1610
01:25:56,120 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 1: do the man over a lie that he admitted it,

1611
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: that he told now something I'm making up. You admit

1612
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 1: it that, brother, How do you make that right?

1613
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 2: You got I'm sure you got lawyers. Have you had

1614
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:10,480
Speaker 2: a conversation?

1615
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: Well, what happens is when you take somebody at their

1616
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 1: word time time time. We don't need to go to

1617
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: no lawyer's taler. You know what you did. Just make

1618
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: it right. And if he doesn't make it right, what

1619
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 1: will our community do? What will our community say? Because

1620
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 1: today it's me, tomorrow's you. Then what We've got to

1621
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: hold him accountable? What did? What? What? What?

1622
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 2: What?

1623
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,759
Speaker 1: Cats say? We've got to you got them tell Tyler Perry,

1624
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 1: come on now do it. You got to tell him.

1625
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 2: You got to tell that more obviously when you do.

1626
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 2: When when you do stand up, you go to a

1627
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 2: lot of different cities, a lot of different club Yes,

1628
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 2: it's a lot of different promoters. Has everybody always been

1629
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:56,560
Speaker 2: on the up and up with Monique? Or did you

1630
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 2: try to? Sometimes people try to take advantage you. Female,

1631
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 2: you're black, You head me.

1632
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 1: You're not gonna say that like mister from Color Purple.

1633
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,759
Speaker 1: You're black, Your ugn you wanna do that shit?

1634
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 2: But you know, people try to take people would would

1635
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 2: try to take advantage of anyone, but seemingly like us

1636
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 2: that she were willing to take more advantage.

1637
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: I've had to tell the promoters call the police because

1638
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 1: either they're gonna come get you or me.

1639
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 2: They tried to hold up on the money.

1640
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: Call the police because and this was this was like

1641
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 1: seventy five dollars. Can you imagine seventy five dollars? Like

1642
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: you know where we come from. Yeah, if somebody gets

1643
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,719
Speaker 1: you for twenty five dollars, that's a problem. Imagine twenty

1644
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 1: five million. Yeah, we've seen people lose their life for

1645
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 1: twenty five dollars. Imagine somebody getting you for millions. How

1646
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: are you supposed to feel? Would you let it go? Nah?

1647
01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 2: Hell no?

1648
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: Right, So when people say more, just let it go.

1649
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's easy for people to say let it

1650
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: go when they haven't lost anything.

1651
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 1: It's easy to.

1652
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 2: Say, come on, But when you've lost, how do you

1653
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 2: It's kind of like it's kind of like, you know, hey,

1654
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 2: someone should just get over it. You should. You can't

1655
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 2: tell somebody how to grieve, how long to grieve, because

1656
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 2: you're not the one that's hurting.

1657
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 1: They didn't do it to you. They didn't do it

1658
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 1: to you. It was done. And I will say this

1659
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: right now on your show. I still love y'all. We

1660
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 1: still love y'all.

1661
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 2: You love money.

1662
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,600
Speaker 1: Make it make it right, my husband, Okay, say that

1663
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:41,480
Speaker 1: again because.

1664
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 2: I love y'all. Mod y'all. Make it right.

1665
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, okay, I'll fix them a pand okay. My

1666
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: husband would always say, Mama, we ain't calling nobody out.

1667
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 1: We're calling them up. And if we continue to call

1668
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: us up on our doings that are not right, we

1669
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 1: get better as a people, like we get Do you

1670
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: know why things were able to happen like that happened

1671
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 1: on the Color Purple?

1672
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 2: Why? Oh, you're talking about the reback? You talking about

1673
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 2: what I'm.

1674
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 1: Talking about, the seventh one, the one that just came

1675
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,959
Speaker 1: out right right and at the seventh edition.

1676
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 2: It's like the musical with Fantasia in Taraji.

1677
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: Right right, right, right, right right, that one with all

1678
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 1: our beautiful sisters. You know why they're able to treat

1679
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: us like they treat us. How are you handpicked in

1680
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: your audition?

1681
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 2: No, if you hand picked, you do on audition.

1682
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 1: I want you to say that again, Shennon, because people

1683
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 1: don't understand how deep this goes. When I watched my

1684
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: sister say it was an honor to be hand picked, right, then,

1685
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 1: whyever would you audition?

1686
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1687
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 1: And the moment, in my opinion, the moment she auditioned,

1688
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: they knew we got them. We can treat them any

1689
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: kind of way we want to treat them, we can

1690
01:29:58,400 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: do them any kind of way.

1691
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 2: But why would you I want to why God, you can.

1692
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you should.

1693
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 1: But they did, but they did. How do you hand

1694
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 1: pick me and then mistreat me? And then I got

1695
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 1: to send a letter to you about the mistreatment that

1696
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 1: you gave me. That's why they're able to get away

1697
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 1: with it. That's why when I do interviews oftentimes or

1698
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 1: these conversations, people are too afraid to even address it

1699
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 1: because they don't want to be caught up like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know when you said way a minute, naught,

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Speaker 1: liked you.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: If she did not like you, nobody liked you. And

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Speaker 1: when I saw that woman stand to her feet, baby.

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Speaker 2: Good, I was good.

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Speaker 1: There was so many moments.

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Speaker 1: Time, baby, and not the nervous where you're scared. It's

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1757
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Speaker 1: Like when you go out to the field. It's like, ooh,

1758
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Speaker 1: it's that I still get that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, that's I mean to hear you speaking to

1760
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:31,480
Speaker 2: see like how passionate you are a very very passionate

1761
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:33,520
Speaker 2: person about everything.

1762
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 1: I love us. I loved us. Like when I say

1763
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 1: I love my people, I love my people, Shannon, I

1764
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 1: love us. I love everybody right, but my people. I

1765
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 1: love us. So when I speak on things, it's not

1766
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 1: the drop shade mess or tie. I'm too damn grown

1767
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: for that. I'm fifty six and a grandmother who got

1768
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 1: time for that. But I say it because will it

1769
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 1: make us better? Will it make us come to the

1770
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 1: table and say, you know what, do we really leave

1771
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 1: for the babies that's coming behind us? That means something

1772
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 1: to me when I talk about them. Damn bonnets, let

1773
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:12,799
Speaker 1: me tell you something.

1774
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah you feel hey, come on, can we like when

1775
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 2: we come out the house, can we not have the

1776
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 2: bonnets on? Can we not have the pajamas on? Can

1777
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:22,560
Speaker 2: we not have the house shoes going in?

1778
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 1: The the whole damn Halloween costume. That's a Halloween costume

1779
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,599
Speaker 1: that you wear on Halloween. And I am passionate about

1780
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 1: that because what is the representation that we're giving to

1781
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 1: the little girls that's walking behind you? What is the

1782
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 1: representation that we're giving to our black men that's walking

1783
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 1: beside us? What is the reputation that we're given. And

1784
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 1: when they would say to me, oh, Monique, you don't

1785
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 1: know what they going through. We always been going through something. Yes,

1786
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 1: we was going through something when we got off the

1787
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 1: damn boat. We've been going through something. But once you

1788
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:55,679
Speaker 1: lose the pride and the dignity of what of what

1789
01:34:55,800 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 1: you feel like, you look like, then we've lost. So

1790
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:02,719
Speaker 1: I wasn't backing down on that. It's like, no, y'all,

1791
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 1: we owe ourselves right that we owe ourselves that.

1792
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 2: How hard is it for you to love some in

1793
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 2: the community when you know they don't love you back.

1794
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:26,639
Speaker 1: That's a good machinton. Okay, that's a good one, because

1795
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 1: sometimes I be in the bathroom having conversations with the

1796
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 1: ones that don't love me back, but I still love

1797
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: them because I just know they're misinformed. We've been conditioned

1798
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 1: in such a way in our community to eat each

1799
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:41,680
Speaker 1: other up and spit each other out. We've been conditioned, well,

1800
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 1: I don't like her, and I love my people.

1801
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:46,679
Speaker 2: But why why do I love? No? No, I'm saying

1802
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 2: a lot of times for me is that I don't

1803
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 2: take someone's word about to because you can only judge

1804
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 2: a person through personal experience. Yes, you don't know our

1805
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 2: audio guy, but to say, oh, well, I don't like it,

1806
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 2: and then for you said, well I don't like it either,

1807
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 2: because Shanna didn't like it. You have no personal experience

1808
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 2: with him, So why wouldn't you? Why would you dislike it?

1809
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 2: People want us to dislike somebody because they've had a

1810
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 2: negative experience with that set person.

1811
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 1: And we buy into it. We buy into it because

1812
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 1: this one don't like it, And then you say, why

1813
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: don't you like them? Let me This is one thing

1814
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:29,719
Speaker 1: my husband said to me one time. He said, Mama,

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01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 1: there's not a person on the face of this earth

1816
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 1: that I dislike. I may dislike what they do, but

1817
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:39,680
Speaker 1: I don't dislike the person. And it took me a

1818
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 1: minute to understand it because I'm like, I don't like

1819
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 1: they ass. I don't like what they did. I don't

1820
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 1: like they ass. I don't like their mama. I don't

1821
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 1: like none of them. But he said, no, they are

1822
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 1: things you've done that I dislike, but I don't dislike you.

1823
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 1: And once we can get past that, then we even

1824
01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 1: grow to be better. So what you're seeing right now,

1825
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:07,679
Speaker 1: Shannon is missus Sidney Hicks that my husband had set

1826
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:12,679
Speaker 1: me down and had conversations with me and really taught

1827
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 1: me how to be a lady. Because people in this

1828
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:19,719
Speaker 1: business know if you sideways, baby, you beat that boy

1829
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 1: over the head with that tray in the cafeteria, right,

1830
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 1: I will cuss your ass out in ways that they

1831
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 1: wish I beat him with a tray. And he had

1832
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:29,679
Speaker 1: to say, Mama, they won't hear you, right, they don't

1833
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 1: hear you once you go there. So he's had to

1834
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 1: teach me how to really be a queen, really know

1835
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 1: my worth, really understand my value. And I'm grateful for that.

1836
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 1: And I used to say to my husband, I wish

1837
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 1: I could put you in a bottle and shake you

1838
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 1: up and let black women take a sent to know

1839
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 1: what it's like to truly be loved by a black

1840
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 1: man that is a king. When I tell you, Shannon,

1841
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 1: it's a love that is unexplainable and unimaginable. That's why

1842
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 1: I can't be broken. And I say that humbly. I

1843
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 1: can't be broken because I got a king at home.

1844
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:13,840
Speaker 1: I got a king right there, And when all this

1845
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 1: shit went crazy, that man took me by my hands

1846
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 1: and said, don't you know we could? And I believed him,

1847
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 1: and right now to this day, I believe him. And

1848
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:30,800
Speaker 1: when you have that type of strength, it's hard to

1849
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 1: bend over. You can't.

1850
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:37,599
Speaker 2: Right. You said that when you were at your lowest,

1851
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 2: he lifted you to your highest.

1852
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:44,640
Speaker 1: You better know your homework. Baby, I'm proud of you.

1853
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 1: We got toes on that way. You better know your

1854
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 1: damn homework. I said that when I was at my lowest,

1855
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 1: he loved me like I was at my best and

1856
01:38:55,080 --> 01:39:02,640
Speaker 1: I was mentally ill. Because you're in this business, everybody

1857
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 1: thinks you are a hero. Consideration can be thrown out

1858
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 1: the window. Patience can be thrown out the window because

1859
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 1: when you get home, you believe that I'm the bread winner.

1860
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 1: And what I say is what goes. And this is

1861
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 1: what it is. And this is my third marriage through

1862
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 1: my first because this is the first time I've known

1863
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 1: my place as a black man's wife, and there's a

1864
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 1: place and we get so caught up in that word,

1865
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 1: what you mean, your play, what you mean without him

1866
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:41,560
Speaker 1: saying it, his actions showed me that he was the

1867
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 1: leader of that household. Without him saying it, I knew

1868
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:47,679
Speaker 1: I was dealing with a king.

1869
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 2: And he didn't have to confidently remind you of it.

1870
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:54,680
Speaker 1: He never, he's never. When we first got together, I said,

1871
01:39:54,720 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 1: at the him of that table, comfortably, there was never

1872
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 1: a conversation about it. Till one day I knew I

1873
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 1: was in the wrong place. Wow, And I moved to

1874
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 1: the side of the table, and he said at the head.

1875
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:14,679
Speaker 1: We never had a conversation about it. It just happened

1876
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:18,760
Speaker 1: because it was supposed to. So when people question my

1877
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 1: husband and why is he there, you would hope you

1878
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 1: would have one like that. I remember our beautiful sister

1879
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 1: Tiffany had itsh did an interview with GQ magazine, and

1880
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 1: this is my humble opinion, it's where we keep throwing

1881
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:36,400
Speaker 1: each other under the bus. You're doing an interview with

1882
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 1: GQ magazine and I'm assuming the journalist was a white person.

1883
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:46,679
Speaker 1: And the conversation turned to Monique and she said, well,

1884
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't do business like Monique do business. And I'm

1885
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:50,799
Speaker 1: glad I don't have that husband of hers.

1886
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:53,680
Speaker 2: But she doesn't know your husband.

1887
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,560
Speaker 1: And when I saw that, it's like Tiffany, if you

1888
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 1: had a husband like mine, you may not have to DUIs.

1889
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 1: If you had a husband like mine, you may not

1890
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 1: be caught up in what looks like you could have

1891
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 1: been grooming a child. And I say, all of that

1892
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 1: was no judgment. But when you speak about having a

1893
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 1: husband like mine, you open up the door. And I'm

1894
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 1: saying to you, if you had one like mine, you

1895
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 1: may not sit in these positions that you can't explain

1896
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:29,720
Speaker 1: the next day or it's a hard way to go.

1897
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 2: So once agont you don't have a husband, let alone

1898
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 2: like yours.

1899
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 1: Well about saying that, now, you said it, I siped

1900
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:42,640
Speaker 1: doing that, said that was a sip that required a sip.

1901
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 2: You Moesha? How did how did that come about?

1902
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:51,959
Speaker 1: Mosha?

1903
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? You had an audition for Moesha?

1904
01:41:54,120 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 1: Right, No, sir, hold on, no, sir, I did I

1905
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 1: say this not to be but I never auditioned what

1906
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 1: I've never auditioned. They've call I think. I thought I

1907
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:17,640
Speaker 1: was auditioning for a Burger King commercial, but what it

1908
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 1: really was was the agency I was with at the

1909
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 1: time just trying to blow smoke, you know, making me

1910
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 1: think I'm doing something, but to audition. When I first

1911
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 1: came to Hollywood, I told this guy name I believe

1912
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,919
Speaker 1: his name is Mark Unray, and I told AJ Johnson,

1913
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:35,719
Speaker 1: and I told a sister named kim Kimberly Brooks. I said,

1914
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm not auditioning, and they was like, okay, like you're

1915
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 1: fat ass. You not auditioning. We'll see That's what they did.

1916
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 1: They laugh. But I meant that, I'm like, what you

1917
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 1: see is what you get. I am not going to

1918
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 1: especially now, especially now. Whyever would I audition when I've

1919
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:00,599
Speaker 1: got the highest award that you can get in this

1920
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 1: business called acting? And why would I do that? Because

1921
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 1: once I do that, I devalue me. If you can't

1922
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:09,679
Speaker 1: look at my work and say that's what we want,

1923
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 1: then no, thank you. Like they'll call me, they'll send

1924
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:16,839
Speaker 1: emails and they'll say, what's Monique availability. None of your business.

1925
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 1: I don't know you, So you're just gonna send an

1926
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:23,040
Speaker 1: email and wanna know what's my availability. I'm offer only.

1927
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 1: I am offer only. So again, we gotta be careful

1928
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:31,720
Speaker 1: what we say yes too, what Sidney Poitier say, It's

1929
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 1: not how many times you say yes, how many times

1930
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 1: you say no? And the moment Our Baby audition, they

1931
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 1: got set up for no trailers, they got set up

1932
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,480
Speaker 1: for no food, they got set up for no drivers

1933
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:48,680
Speaker 1: because now in their mind they think you're desperate. Right,

1934
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:50,879
Speaker 1: So when Oprah does the one on one with Taraji

1935
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 1: and she begins to run down her credits, the great

1936
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 1: Taraji p Henson, then whyever would you allow the audition

1937
01:43:56,520 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 1: to happen? Whyever would you allow that? Why wouldn't you

1938
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 1: go to that studio and say, she doesn't have to

1939
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:07,680
Speaker 1: our hand picked them. So either our sisters not as

1940
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 1: powerful as we believe she is, or either there's not

1941
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 1: the concern that she tries to make it look like

1942
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 1: it is.

1943
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 2: But you turn a couple of appearance on Moesha into

1944
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 2: the Parkers.

1945
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 1: This is how the Parkers happened. Normally, you shoot a pilot, correct, right, yes,

1946
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:27,760
Speaker 1: and the pilot they decide whether or not they're going

1947
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:30,879
Speaker 1: to do the show from the pilot, right yes, okay,

1948
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:33,559
Speaker 1: Countess Vaughan and I when I go to a meeting

1949
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 1: with a guy named Larry Little at Big Ticket Television,

1950
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 1: and at the time my agent was a woman named

1951
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 1: Susie Unger. They're trying to sell a talk show. Yes,

1952
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 1: we have a meeting. He says, listen, I don't need

1953
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 1: her to do a talk show, but if she can act,

1954
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 1: she has her own show. My agent said, of course

1955
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 1: she can act. Well, she didn't know if I could

1956
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 1: act or not, but I said, damn it, of course

1957
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:54,720
Speaker 1: I can. Add. They put Countess Vaughnut that meeting that

1958
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:57,640
Speaker 1: was at one o'clock. By that evening, they were negotiating

1959
01:44:57,640 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 1: the deal for the Parkers. The way they entered used

1960
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 1: the character because they always talked about Kim's mother on Mosha.

1961
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 1: They introduced Nikki Parker in an episode of Militia, which

1962
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 1: was the pilot spin off to The Parkers. That was

1963
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 1: never an audition. There was never any of that.

1964
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:19,719
Speaker 2: So now all of a sudden, you got your own

1965
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 2: sick com Shut up, Come on, now you go home,

1966
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:29,040
Speaker 2: and you like from be more Maryland from what I

1967
01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:32,960
Speaker 2: went through to this, yes, are you looking around?

1968
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 4: Like?

1969
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:36,760
Speaker 2: Damn it? I made I knew this. I knew this

1970
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 2: thing we was gonna happen.

1971
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes. And you know how you know something

1972
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 1: as a child, like did you know you were gonna play?

1973
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:50,720
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

1974
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 1: I knew it, Shannon. I knew it like I knew

1975
01:45:56,080 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 1: as a child. And I say this humbly. I knew

1976
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 1: the world would know my name like I knew that.

1977
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:08,719
Speaker 1: So once you in it, you'd be just like I

1978
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:16,480
Speaker 1: still can be in a supermarket and somebody say, Monique,

1979
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 1: is that you and I still can tear up because

1980
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm here. I remember when I got my

1981
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:28,280
Speaker 1: first parking lot at the Parkers. I didn't know I

1982
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:30,839
Speaker 1: had a parking space, and they would send out emails

1983
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 1: to say, if you're here for the Parkers, park outside

1984
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 1: the gate. That's how naive I was when you ask me,

1985
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 1: was I naive? So I would park outside the gate.

1986
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 1: I even though I'm one of the stars of a show. Baby,

1987
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:47,680
Speaker 1: they said, if you went the Parker, because there's no

1988
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:50,559
Speaker 1: one on one, there's no Hollywood one on one, there's

1989
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 1: no introduction. They just say go and you're supposed to

1990
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 1: get it. So I would walk across the parking lot

1991
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:58,759
Speaker 1: all the way over to the set to the stage

1992
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 1: till a brother named William Tripp was in a golf

1993
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 1: cart one day. He said, mo, what you're doing? I said,

1994
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 1: going to the set. He said, why are you walking

1995
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 1: across the parking lot. I said, oh, because they said

1996
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:13,639
Speaker 1: if you're with the parkers, you gotta park outside the gate.

1997
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 1: The brothers laughed, but it was a brotherly lamb. He said,

1998
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:20,960
Speaker 1: come in, baby, let me show you something. And I

1999
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 1: got on that golf cart and he drove me to

2000
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 1: my parking space that had my name on it. That

2001
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:29,680
Speaker 1: was a moment for me, like I'm pulling up to

2002
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 1: a studio and that's my name. That's the little fat

2003
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 1: black girl from Baltimore, Maryland who was in the slow

2004
01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:38,839
Speaker 1: slow class. That's the little fat black girl from Baltimore,

2005
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 1: Maryland who didn't have a lot of friends, a lot

2006
01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 1: of people didn't want to deal with me. But that's

2007
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 1: my name on that parking space. Now do you see

2008
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:49,360
Speaker 1: why I fight like I fight because it's all possible.

2009
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 1: But what happens is we then lose ourself in the

2010
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 1: possibility of what we're getting, and now we're too afraid

2011
01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 1: to lose it. So all the principles, all the morals,

2012
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,760
Speaker 1: all your fans, I'll use they don't go away. You

2013
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:04,200
Speaker 1: just push them to the side, because you know what

2014
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:06,559
Speaker 1: it's like not to have gas money. So I'll just

2015
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, I just go ahead and do that a

2016
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 1: little bit. My soul won't let me do that.

2017
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 2: Why did you want to become famous? You asked me earlier,

2018
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:19,640
Speaker 2: Did I know that I was going to play in

2019
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:22,439
Speaker 2: the NFL? And I told you yes, because I would.

2020
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:25,600
Speaker 2: I wanted to play in the NFL because it was

2021
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 2: going to get my grandmother and my family into a

2022
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 2: situation they probably would have never enjoyed without it. Come on,

2023
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 2: that was my driving force. That was all I thought about. More,

2024
01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 2: given your family situation and what transpired, why didn't more

2025
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:41,599
Speaker 2: want to be famous so bad?

2026
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm a little fat black girl, baby, and asks another

2027
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:52,720
Speaker 1: fat black girl. We fight for that attention because you

2028
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 1: wasn't the one picked on the playground to play kickball, right,

2029
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:58,439
Speaker 1: You wasn't the one pick for the spelling bee. You

2030
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 1: wasn't the one picked for them. You wasn't the one

2031
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 1: pick for that. So I was like, one day, one day,

2032
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 1: one day, one day. I'm sure you growing up you

2033
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:08,880
Speaker 1: had your challenges. You were a dark skinned man, there

2034
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:09,839
Speaker 1: was a time you studied.

2035
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 2: I wasn't always popping that.

2036
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 1: You brought it up. Let's talk about it, talk about it.

2037
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 1: Your good, your hand white curly, your skin was black. Yeah, man, okay, yeah,

2038
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:25,839
Speaker 1: you brought it up. I wasn't always that. Is sow

2039
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 1: to be that now to be that? Yeah, Now you

2040
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:32,720
Speaker 1: gotta be careful because you remember the time when she told,

2041
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, I don't wanna go out on the date

2042
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 1: with old black Shannon. Let me talk to her right now,

2043
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:40,559
Speaker 1: let me talk to your ass that wouldn't go out

2044
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 1: with black Shannon. Now you wish you would have won

2045
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:46,640
Speaker 1: out with black shanning that study, Okay, you wish you

2046
01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:49,559
Speaker 1: would have one out with black stuttering Shannon sharps ass.

2047
01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:51,639
Speaker 1: Now look at him, he got the shape shape. Show

2048
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 1: I met her ass of tough. I've been there. I've

2049
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 1: been there. I've been there. So we understand it. You know,

2050
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:02,600
Speaker 1: you understand that drive. You understand that thing and you

2051
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 1: that says I won't let nobody stop me. Now, my

2052
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 1: drive wasn't that I wanted to get my family out

2053
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 1: of poverty, because I've always grown up in a middle

2054
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 1: class environment. So it wasn't that we were dirt poor.

2055
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 1: You know, we ain't have no whole lot, But I

2056
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 1: didn't look at it as we lived in Powy. For me,

2057
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:27,519
Speaker 1: I just wanted to I wanted the world to know me.

2058
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 1: And then once I had a son, right, I was

2059
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 1: very young when I had my first son. I didn't

2060
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 1: want him to have to go to a college because

2061
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:40,639
Speaker 1: that was all that my parents could afford. I wanted

2062
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:43,439
Speaker 1: him to be able to do whatever he wanted to do.

2063
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:47,040
Speaker 1: And then there was a sacrifice in that, right, because

2064
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 1: when you're trying to go get it, you're missing this

2065
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:52,800
Speaker 1: right here, the nurture in you miss all of that.

2066
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 1: So you know, all of that had to be dealt with.

2067
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 1: So now with this group, with my second set of children,

2068
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:03,640
Speaker 1: mother than I was then. So my whole thing is

2069
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:07,720
Speaker 1: even right now, we want to make sure that when

2070
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:11,680
Speaker 1: we leave here, our babies are good, right, and that

2071
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 1: baby's are good. And then Tyler Perry not told that lie,

2072
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:17,720
Speaker 1: we would be on our way to that. And I

2073
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:19,680
Speaker 1: know people saying, why she keep going back to that.

2074
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep going back to that shit, Shannon Sharp

2075
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 1: till he takes accountability.

2076
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 2: For you said your first son, Yes, that you're trying

2077
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 2: to get it, but it robbed you of a lot

2078
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:39,800
Speaker 2: of things of a mother son relationship, and so you

2079
01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:43,240
Speaker 2: made sure not to make the mistake this time around.

2080
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:49,000
Speaker 2: What's your relationship like, is he resentful of that?

2081
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 1: We're still very much separated, okay? And and and it's

2082
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a It's one of those things

2083
01:51:57,880 --> 01:51:59,640
Speaker 1: where you have to pray to the universe and say,

2084
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 1: let do the healing, and that's it. That's it. Let

2085
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 1: time do that healing. It may heal it in time,

2086
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 1: and it may not. And that's something that we as

2087
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 1: parents have to say, Listen, I've done what I've could do.

2088
01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 1: I've taken accountability for it. Now it's up to you.

2089
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:19,800
Speaker 2: Right.

2090
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 1: That's like when somebody's saying, Shannon, I want to apologize

2091
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:27,800
Speaker 1: to you. Now it's up to you whether or not talk.

2092
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:30,680
Speaker 1: But once I give it to you, I've done my

2093
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:34,599
Speaker 1: part and don't apologize like, no, Pump, I'm just sorry

2094
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 1: for everything that gets your ass out of it. No,

2095
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:42,120
Speaker 1: break it down. Let's go bit by bit so that

2096
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 1: way we know you understand the offense that you've done.

2097
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying because I've had to do that

2098
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 1: when I tell you. I was so out of line

2099
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 1: and out of order when I first got with my husband,

2100
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 1: so out of order and out of line. And this

2101
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 1: has been my best friend since tenth grade, since we

2102
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 1: were fourteen years old. He came to the other other weddings.

2103
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:06,640
Speaker 1: It was like my brother. This man, he was like

2104
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 1: my brother.

2105
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 2: Even I hustling you for a minute more.

2106
01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 1: You know he wasn't. That's why it's so beautiful, because

2107
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:19,040
Speaker 1: we really we were like we we had a place together.

2108
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 1: He would see my boyfriend, I see his girlfriend. You

2109
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:28,360
Speaker 1: know that type of This was my brother. This was

2110
01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 1: literally my brother. And then if it wasn't my boyfriend,

2111
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 1: it might be another little fellow. But you know, he

2112
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:36,920
Speaker 1: was like my brother. We were brother and sister. So

2113
01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 1: the way it happened, yes, it was so pure.

2114
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 2: Tell me, and that's what I want to know. Now.

2115
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:46,760
Speaker 2: You he came to you, say, came the wedding. You

2116
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:49,040
Speaker 2: saw him have girlfriends. I don't know if he was

2117
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 2: married or not before you you How how did I

2118
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:55,080
Speaker 2: gotta know this? All?

2119
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:55,439
Speaker 1: Barton?

2120
01:53:55,479 --> 01:53:56,479
Speaker 2: Need to do a girl.

2121
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 1: We got time, We got time, We got on time.

2122
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:02,040
Speaker 1: I want you to say that again, and I don't

2123
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 1: want Hallmark, but okay, okay, okay, because this store, this

2124
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 1: story is spicy, and I don't know if Hallmark can

2125
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 1: handle the spice of the story. So we've always been

2126
01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:17,760
Speaker 1: like brother and sister. Right. He was the one I

2127
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:20,559
Speaker 1: would call after a show when I was standing at

2128
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:22,519
Speaker 1: a motel and I'd be like, yo, they got me

2129
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:25,719
Speaker 1: in this motel and nigga's outside and everything. I'm scared.

2130
01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 1: He'd be like, but one day, one day, you're gonna

2131
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 1: be on the inside. This is the same guy that

2132
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 1: we was going to the like our little farmer's market

2133
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:35,720
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, and I had a comedy club called Monique's

2134
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, and the girl had on a Monick's T shirt.

2135
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 1: And he says, one day they know you only in Baltimore,

2136
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:45,200
Speaker 1: but one day they gonna know you all around the world.

2137
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:47,520
Speaker 1: That's the same guy that when we step off of

2138
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 1: a plane in London together and the guy says, my

2139
01:54:52,120 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 1: wife knows I fancy you. And we went back to

2140
01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:58,640
Speaker 1: that moment coming out of that store in Baltimore. But

2141
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 1: one day they'll know you all the world. So he's

2142
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 1: always been he always made life right for me. But

2143
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 1: it was my brother, right, And I remember one night

2144
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 1: when I thought Joel LeVert was my boyfriend. And let

2145
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:21,000
Speaker 1: me be clear, I thought he was my boyfriend. I

2146
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:23,400
Speaker 1: was never his girlfriend, right, but in my mind, you know,

2147
01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:26,160
Speaker 1: we'll we'll take it somewhere, right. So I'm in my

2148
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:29,280
Speaker 1: feelings because I like this little teddy bear, right, but

2149
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:34,160
Speaker 1: the teddy bear didn't like recting. Okay, oh right, not

2150
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 1: the way I wanted it to be. Right. So I

2151
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:41,760
Speaker 1: call up my best friend and I'm saying I'm mad.

2152
01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:45,240
Speaker 1: He said, all right, he said, listen, that's all good.

2153
01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:48,840
Speaker 1: When you come home, you know, let's just hang out.

2154
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:49,400
Speaker 2: Right.

2155
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 1: When I went home, I was doing the BT Awards

2156
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 1: and I had a big party at my house. And

2157
01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 1: the next day I was supposed to go to Essence

2158
01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 1: for the film for the Essence Festival. So that night

2159
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:04,120
Speaker 1: at the house, my house, the outside is packed. Ain't

2160
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:07,240
Speaker 1: nobody though a Hollywood party, shanting shop like Monique through

2161
01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 1: a Hollywood I had every race, every nationality, every everything

2162
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 1: you thought could be at a party, and everybody was

2163
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 1: just a great time.

2164
01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:17,680
Speaker 2: Right.

2165
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:20,840
Speaker 1: So he's at the party and he's very reserved, you know,

2166
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 1: very reserve cat. So I grabbed his hand and said,

2167
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,160
Speaker 1: come on, let's go dancing, and we got on and dance.

2168
01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 1: We have a great time. After that, I'm like, all right,

2169
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 1: I gotta start packing to get ready to go to

2170
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:34,760
Speaker 1: the Essence Festival. So we go upstairs and I take

2171
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 1: my shower. It was nothing for him to see me

2172
01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 1: naked because we we were roommates, you know, so nothing.

2173
01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:45,400
Speaker 1: So he says, when you come back from Essence, I

2174
01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:49,920
Speaker 1: wanna talk with you. So I said, okay. So he

2175
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 1: went to kiss me on my cheek, but the kiss

2176
01:56:53,560 --> 01:57:01,760
Speaker 1: was half lipped. It was like here, yo, you see,

2177
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 1: it was right there, right now. I tried to turn

2178
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:06,280
Speaker 1: the home mouth, but it came right there because I

2179
01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:08,840
Speaker 1: felt something different. I felt it and I was like

2180
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:12,160
Speaker 1: and then after it happened, we both almost had a

2181
01:57:12,160 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 1: feeling of like we did something wrong, like this, like

2182
01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:20,720
Speaker 1: that's my So we didn't address it. I came back

2183
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:21,760
Speaker 1: from Essence Festival.

2184
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:23,040
Speaker 2: What do you want to talk about?

2185
01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 1: I went to his place. Okay, he fixed inner. Okay,

2186
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:31,240
Speaker 1: he fixed inner and read this amazing poem that he

2187
01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:36,720
Speaker 1: wrote that was almost nineteen years ago. Oh we've never

2188
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 1: been apart since then. Wow, We've never been apart since then.

2189
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:48,640
Speaker 1: And I am more in love with that man today

2190
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:51,720
Speaker 1: than I was when we first got married, because I

2191
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:54,720
Speaker 1: didn't really know what I was getting. I knew I

2192
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 1: was getting somebody I could trust because I just needed

2193
01:57:57,360 --> 01:58:01,520
Speaker 1: somebody that I could just right, like my brother stole

2194
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:03,600
Speaker 1: from him, my fad, like I'm just I just needed

2195
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:06,560
Speaker 1: somebody that I could just trust. And I didn't want

2196
01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 1: to keep on having randoms, right, because that gets old

2197
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 1: after a while. You know what I'm saying. He's trying

2198
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 1: to fill the void, and men go through that as

2199
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:16,520
Speaker 1: well as women. You just get tired of. So I

2200
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:19,400
Speaker 1: knew I could trust him, but I didn't know he

2201
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 1: was the king that he was sharning. I didn't know that.

2202
01:58:23,840 --> 01:58:26,720
Speaker 1: I didn't know that I would be raised and they

2203
01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 1: are women that have a problem with me saying that,

2204
01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 1: and I will not back down from it. I did

2205
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:33,560
Speaker 1: not know that that man would take me from a

2206
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:38,320
Speaker 1: fifteen year old mentality. Even though I'm a star, I'm famous,

2207
01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 1: I got a few dollars in my bank account, but

2208
01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:44,040
Speaker 1: still had that little girl mentality. You can't correct me,

2209
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:46,560
Speaker 1: you can't say nothing to me, you can't check me,

2210
01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 1: you can't do none of that. Still had that way.

2211
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:52,480
Speaker 1: That man was able to shut all of that down

2212
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:58,080
Speaker 1: and grow me up. So I got a great one.

2213
01:58:58,200 --> 01:58:59,520
Speaker 1: I won't even say it good when I got a.

2214
01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:03,840
Speaker 2: Great, great one. Yeah, you got a lover, a best friend, yes,

2215
01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 2: a manager, a husband yes, confide.

2216
01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:13,720
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, a protect her. You're saying it, and

2217
01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:15,840
Speaker 1: it seems like people have a hard time getting it,

2218
01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 1: But that's exactly who Sidney Hick says. He's all of

2219
01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:20,080
Speaker 1: those things.

2220
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:24,640
Speaker 2: When the Queens of Comedy, when was that? Because I

2221
01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 2: was some more adal givings, Miss Lloyd, tell me about

2222
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:32,040
Speaker 2: the Queen's of comedy we hear about We hear about

2223
01:59:32,040 --> 01:59:34,480
Speaker 2: the Kings of Comedy all the time, and it was great.

2224
01:59:34,720 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was not an original Queen of Comedy. And

2225
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:46,880
Speaker 1: when I came on right, I was so honored to

2226
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:49,440
Speaker 1: be in the presence of three of the greatest female

2227
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:52,600
Speaker 1: comedians to ever do it. And when I tell you,

2228
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 1: hands down, them sisters are incredible because they've paved ways

2229
01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:05,160
Speaker 1: for people. And when we got together, Shannon, it was

2230
02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:11,320
Speaker 1: non stop history making because we were selling out in

2231
02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:14,560
Speaker 1: ways that were unheard of, right, And I can remember

2232
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:16,640
Speaker 1: our first show because I was not initially the headliner

2233
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:19,760
Speaker 1: of the Queens of Comedy, some more was and I

2234
02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:22,280
Speaker 1: remember our first show. And this is why I appreciate her,

2235
02:00:22,360 --> 02:00:26,080
Speaker 1: because she knows a great show. Like you have some

2236
02:00:26,120 --> 02:00:28,920
Speaker 1: comedians that feel like you can't follow me. I tore

2237
02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:31,280
Speaker 1: the stage down and it's over, and you can't, you can't,

2238
02:00:31,320 --> 02:00:33,520
Speaker 1: you can't. And I felt that way one time in

2239
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:36,040
Speaker 1: my life, and that was with Dale Hughgley, right, but

2240
02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:41,840
Speaker 1: have you. She was the headliner of the show and

2241
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:44,760
Speaker 1: we were in Atlanta, and it was one of those

2242
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 1: shows where the basket for me was this big, like

2243
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:52,560
Speaker 1: I don't care what I said, it was just right.

2244
02:00:54,960 --> 02:00:57,880
Speaker 1: Some more is one of the funniest. It's just our

2245
02:00:58,200 --> 02:01:01,320
Speaker 1: energies are different. I'm liable to run across the stage.

2246
02:01:01,440 --> 02:01:04,400
Speaker 1: Just the energy is different. And that night, the energy

2247
02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:07,080
Speaker 1: was just different. It was not that she was less funny,

2248
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:10,600
Speaker 1: just the energy was different. And this is why I

2249
02:01:10,720 --> 02:01:13,800
Speaker 1: loved that sister. She walked off the stage that night,

2250
02:01:13,880 --> 02:01:16,240
Speaker 1: after she closed the show, she walked by me and

2251
02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:18,120
Speaker 1: she said, you had line from now on, and she

2252
02:01:18,200 --> 02:01:22,879
Speaker 1: kept walking. We never discussed it. We never discussed it.

2253
02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:27,920
Speaker 1: It takes for me. It takes a person saying we

2254
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:31,280
Speaker 1: want a great show, right, we just want a great

2255
02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:34,880
Speaker 1: show correct, And that's what that was. Miss Laura taught

2256
02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:36,680
Speaker 1: me how to warm up food on a damn iron

2257
02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:40,280
Speaker 1: with a towel. She said, bitch, I've been to prison.

2258
02:01:41,160 --> 02:01:42,920
Speaker 1: We don't have no microwave, and we're gonna eat these

2259
02:01:42,920 --> 02:01:45,680
Speaker 1: buffalo wings. Flip that iron over and wrap that rentals

2260
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:47,560
Speaker 1: wrap up and cover it with that tail. Baby them

2261
02:01:47,560 --> 02:01:51,600
Speaker 1: buffalo wings. Was so damn good. We just but did

2262
02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:55,800
Speaker 1: we get treated fairly? Held to the note, No, we

2263
02:01:55,880 --> 02:01:59,240
Speaker 1: did not. There were times on that Queens of Comedy

2264
02:01:59,280 --> 02:02:03,360
Speaker 1: tour that I had to even on that tour, I

2265
02:02:03,400 --> 02:02:08,520
Speaker 1: had to say some things because it wasn't fair and

2266
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:11,160
Speaker 1: the way we were being treated it was not fair.

2267
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:18,280
Speaker 1: There were times when money wasn't right. And I remember

2268
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:23,920
Speaker 1: the first date for the Queens of Comedy and I

2269
02:02:23,960 --> 02:02:27,600
Speaker 1: got a call from my agent and she says to me,

2270
02:02:28,400 --> 02:02:30,960
Speaker 1: no more C and D promoters. You're in the big

2271
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:35,400
Speaker 1: leagues now. Walter Latham wants to want you to be

2272
02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:39,480
Speaker 1: a part of the Queen's of Comedy. Okay, nope, I'm

2273
02:02:39,960 --> 02:02:40,280
Speaker 1: thank you.

2274
02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:43,360
Speaker 2: Problem because he's exactly producing of the Kings of Comedy.

2275
02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:45,160
Speaker 2: Correct going to be a blast.

2276
02:02:46,720 --> 02:02:49,040
Speaker 1: The first check I got.

2277
02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:52,800
Speaker 2: Let me sit for I tell you, I'm man take

2278
02:02:52,840 --> 02:02:53,520
Speaker 2: me a step too.

2279
02:02:55,240 --> 02:02:57,280
Speaker 1: My banker called me up and said, Monique, this check

2280
02:02:57,400 --> 02:03:01,000
Speaker 1: is no good. I said, excuse me, the money jump

2281
02:03:01,040 --> 02:03:03,880
Speaker 1: fighting sip again, God, damn it.

2282
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:06,560
Speaker 2: I might need a little some strong hold on.

2283
02:03:06,680 --> 02:03:13,800
Speaker 1: Damn it, Shynon. The money's no good. I said, what

2284
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:17,040
Speaker 1: you say? She said money, This check is no good.

2285
02:03:17,680 --> 02:03:19,800
Speaker 1: So I immediately got on the phone with my agent

2286
02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:21,960
Speaker 1: and I said, let me tell you something about seeing

2287
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:25,600
Speaker 1: d promoters. My money always good. Now I need you

2288
02:03:25,640 --> 02:03:28,960
Speaker 1: to get Walter Lathan on the phone. Walter Lathan. From

2289
02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:31,560
Speaker 1: here on out, I will only accept cash from you

2290
02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:34,720
Speaker 1: moving forward. You have two hours to get the money

2291
02:03:34,760 --> 02:03:36,840
Speaker 1: into my account. If not, take me off of the

2292
02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:37,840
Speaker 1: Queens of Comedy tour.

2293
02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:43,400
Speaker 2: You make it right.

2294
02:03:43,640 --> 02:03:45,600
Speaker 1: He made it right. You saw me on the tour,

2295
02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:50,400
Speaker 1: didn't you. And then one night, this is why people

2296
02:03:50,440 --> 02:03:54,440
Speaker 1: could say that's a problem. If I tell you I'm

2297
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:59,040
Speaker 1: going to pay you fifty thousand dollars and twenty five cents,

2298
02:03:59,400 --> 02:03:59,840
Speaker 1: what are you.

2299
02:04:03,240 --> 02:04:03,320
Speaker 2: So?

2300
02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:06,480
Speaker 1: One night they tried to give me what was not

2301
02:04:06,800 --> 02:04:11,200
Speaker 1: all of it. I need all of it. I don't

2302
02:04:11,440 --> 02:04:14,840
Speaker 1: care if it's a little bit. It's mine right until

2303
02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:18,240
Speaker 1: you get it. My throat hurts. So they had to go.

2304
02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:20,520
Speaker 1: I get sick on. I'm saying that.

2305
02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:24,680
Speaker 2: The weather.

2306
02:04:26,760 --> 02:04:28,760
Speaker 1: Well, I performed that night because they had to go

2307
02:04:28,760 --> 02:04:32,120
Speaker 1: get my money. Right then they started selling shows off.

2308
02:04:32,920 --> 02:04:35,360
Speaker 1: So what that means is now you got different promoters

2309
02:04:36,040 --> 02:04:41,000
Speaker 1: coming in. We're women, we are women, okay. Some more

2310
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:43,560
Speaker 1: had an assistant and I had an assistant. And both

2311
02:04:43,600 --> 02:04:45,360
Speaker 1: of our assistants were not the kind of men that

2312
02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:48,920
Speaker 1: was gonna fight. Okay, they might scratch it, but they

2313
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:52,840
Speaker 1: weren't gonna ball. They fish up and you no guffing. Okay,

2314
02:04:53,040 --> 02:04:55,720
Speaker 1: So we're in a position now where we're trying to

2315
02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:58,680
Speaker 1: defend ourselves because now you're walking up, you walking up.

2316
02:04:59,000 --> 02:05:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm a promoter, promoter, I'm a promoter, take pictures with

2317
02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:04,560
Speaker 1: my family, and we had no idea this was happening.

2318
02:05:05,320 --> 02:05:09,320
Speaker 1: One night we're on the Kings and Queens, right, and

2319
02:05:09,400 --> 02:05:12,800
Speaker 1: oh how Bernie mac is missed. Oh how he's missed

2320
02:05:13,160 --> 02:05:17,120
Speaker 1: because he was a real one. All the Kings of

2321
02:05:17,120 --> 02:05:21,640
Speaker 1: Comedy had limos separate. Steve had one, Bernie had one,

2322
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:25,560
Speaker 1: said you had one, DL had one, all of them.

2323
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:28,560
Speaker 1: Then another limousine pull up and they say this is

2324
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:30,280
Speaker 1: for the Queens of Comedy. I said, I will not.

2325
02:05:31,840 --> 02:05:35,880
Speaker 1: I will not. You better pull up four separate limousines.

2326
02:05:36,320 --> 02:05:38,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna treat us the same way you treated them.

2327
02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:42,520
Speaker 1: We helped sell out forty four thousand people. That wasn't

2328
02:05:42,600 --> 02:05:45,840
Speaker 1: just the kings, it was the kings and the queens,

2329
02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:49,440
Speaker 1: So you will treat us accordingly. All the kings got

2330
02:05:49,520 --> 02:05:51,240
Speaker 1: Rolex watches when it was over.

2331
02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:52,480
Speaker 2: What y'all get?

2332
02:05:55,120 --> 02:06:00,480
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting for mine. That's the treatment? And people said,

2333
02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:06,360
Speaker 1: why won't y'all do the queens again? It was a

2334
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:09,520
Speaker 1: moment in time, and it was a beautiful moment in time,

2335
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:11,600
Speaker 1: and something should be left where they were.

2336
02:06:13,040 --> 02:06:17,760
Speaker 2: Wow, this is what I want to get to.

2337
02:06:18,040 --> 02:06:19,120
Speaker 1: I want you to get to it.

2338
02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:24,080
Speaker 2: A lot of this happened with the movie Precious. That's

2339
02:06:24,160 --> 02:06:29,960
Speaker 2: the movie that made Monique a star amongst she shined

2340
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:33,880
Speaker 2: the brightest because you played that role. Nobody else could

2341
02:06:33,880 --> 02:06:38,480
Speaker 2: have did that role justice more nobody you played it.

2342
02:06:38,560 --> 02:06:40,720
Speaker 2: And I remember walking out of the movie and I

2343
02:06:40,760 --> 02:06:42,960
Speaker 2: called my sister. I said, she's gonna win the Academy

2344
02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:46,320
Speaker 2: Award for that role. I said, it's almost like she

2345
02:06:46,560 --> 02:06:53,240
Speaker 2: was born to play that role. Now, now tell the

2346
02:06:53,240 --> 02:06:57,080
Speaker 2: correctment from wrong. Okay, you should a movie. Yes, the

2347
02:06:57,200 --> 02:06:59,680
Speaker 2: movie rap. You might have to come back and do

2348
02:06:59,720 --> 02:07:03,160
Speaker 2: some's over, some here, some touch up work here or there. Yes,

2349
02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:08,680
Speaker 2: that's already stripted into the contract. Now the promotion aspect

2350
02:07:08,760 --> 02:07:12,640
Speaker 2: of the contract, what were you contracted to do? Because

2351
02:07:12,640 --> 02:07:15,840
Speaker 2: that seems to be where the conflict seems to come in,

2352
02:07:16,320 --> 02:07:20,760
Speaker 2: because you was like, okay, what so tell the people

2353
02:07:20,840 --> 02:07:24,400
Speaker 2: that's gonna watch this and listen to this. What was

2354
02:07:24,520 --> 02:07:29,280
Speaker 2: Monique contractually obligated to do as far as the promotional

2355
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:30,720
Speaker 2: aspect of Precious?

2356
02:07:32,560 --> 02:07:37,600
Speaker 1: I was contractually obligated to promote the movie Precious under

2357
02:07:37,720 --> 02:07:43,240
Speaker 1: Lee Daniel's productions. Okay, I promoted Precious under Lee Daniel's productions.

2358
02:07:43,520 --> 02:07:47,360
Speaker 1: I did Oprah, I did magazines, I did TV shows,

2359
02:07:47,560 --> 02:07:52,360
Speaker 1: I did all of the promotions I was contractually obligated

2360
02:07:52,600 --> 02:07:52,920
Speaker 1: to do.

2361
02:07:53,080 --> 02:07:54,680
Speaker 2: Okay, that was it. That was it.

2362
02:07:55,240 --> 02:07:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm done with it, done, Okay. Now Precious is going

2363
02:07:58,360 --> 02:08:02,160
Speaker 1: to can right at the time, I have the Monique Show,

2364
02:08:03,000 --> 02:08:05,760
Speaker 1: I am on the Spread the Love Tour, I have

2365
02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:11,520
Speaker 1: toddler babies, and I'm also a wife. Okay, Monique. The

2366
02:08:11,600 --> 02:08:14,160
Speaker 1: Monique Show is like down for maybe a couple of

2367
02:08:14,240 --> 02:08:16,920
Speaker 1: days a week or so. I got some days off

2368
02:08:17,000 --> 02:08:20,480
Speaker 1: on the tour. I'm gonna relax with my family because

2369
02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:28,000
Speaker 1: once they sold the movie, you didn't sell me, Whoopy Goldberg.

2370
02:08:29,400 --> 02:08:31,280
Speaker 1: See Whoopy Goldberg said, I could have schooled you and

2371
02:08:31,320 --> 02:08:35,760
Speaker 1: told you what was expected when I didn't promote and

2372
02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:39,480
Speaker 1: go overseas, And you know how you just looked up

2373
02:08:39,520 --> 02:08:42,720
Speaker 1: and looked away, Whoopy Goldberg, what you were saying to me.

2374
02:08:42,840 --> 02:08:44,680
Speaker 1: I could have schooled you and told you you're going

2375
02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:46,400
Speaker 1: to in that house and let them have their way

2376
02:08:46,440 --> 02:08:48,680
Speaker 1: with you, and I'll be here when you come back.

2377
02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:54,560
Speaker 1: So after I'm done with my promotions, lions Gate reaches

2378
02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:58,880
Speaker 1: out to my husband. Initially, they think they're talking to

2379
02:08:58,960 --> 02:09:04,200
Speaker 1: my attorney, right, and they say, we want Monique to

2380
02:09:04,240 --> 02:09:07,520
Speaker 1: come to can To. She promoted so well in the

2381
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:10,760
Speaker 1: United States. We want her to go international and promote

2382
02:09:10,760 --> 02:09:14,800
Speaker 1: the movie and do can Okay. I told my husband,

2383
02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:18,960
Speaker 1: please let them no respectfully decline. I appreciate it, but

2384
02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:21,160
Speaker 1: I respectfully decline. I'm gonna spend some time at home.

2385
02:09:22,160 --> 02:09:26,880
Speaker 1: Lions Gate calls back, we really would like for Monique

2386
02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:32,480
Speaker 1: to come to can promote this movie. Please let them

2387
02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:35,560
Speaker 1: no respectfully decline. I'm gonna spend time with my family.

2388
02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:39,080
Speaker 1: Lions Gate calls back and says, what is it gonna

2389
02:09:39,120 --> 02:09:41,400
Speaker 1: take for us to get Monique to come to can

2390
02:09:41,720 --> 02:09:45,520
Speaker 1: We'll give her another week in France, we'll upgrade her room.

2391
02:09:47,640 --> 02:09:50,520
Speaker 1: My husband said, is there a dollar amount attached to

2392
02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:54,320
Speaker 1: what you're asking for? Oh, we will never pay anyone

2393
02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:58,200
Speaker 1: to promote a film, never, he said, We understand, and

2394
02:09:58,280 --> 02:10:01,240
Speaker 1: we're never gonna work for free. You're asking her to

2395
02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:04,680
Speaker 1: do something that she's not obligated to do. What is

2396
02:10:04,720 --> 02:10:07,080
Speaker 1: this the attorney? He said, Actually, I'm her manager and

2397
02:10:07,560 --> 02:10:10,280
Speaker 1: her husband. Now we can put it on the husband's

2398
02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:14,720
Speaker 1: being difficult, right, Okay, So I don't owe anybody anything.

2399
02:10:14,760 --> 02:10:17,400
Speaker 1: That's why I was never sued. Now we go to

2400
02:10:17,520 --> 02:10:22,800
Speaker 1: the Hoodie Awards. Tyler Perry is there. Okay, Tyler Perry

2401
02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:25,400
Speaker 1: calls me in his room. Now, when I go into

2402
02:10:25,400 --> 02:10:28,080
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry's room, his staff is in there. Now you're

2403
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:30,760
Speaker 1: ready to holler laughing? Yes, okay, I take my security

2404
02:10:30,800 --> 02:10:32,640
Speaker 1: in there with me because I always want to have

2405
02:10:32,720 --> 02:10:37,680
Speaker 1: somebody with me. Right, Tyler Perry does this, and the

2406
02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:41,040
Speaker 1: people scattered, They all left out the room. I said,

2407
02:10:41,080 --> 02:10:44,640
Speaker 1: look at this shit right here, you saw me, and

2408
02:10:44,680 --> 02:10:45,880
Speaker 1: they all scattered.

2409
02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:49,080
Speaker 2: That wasn't that's for the people you don't lights.

2410
02:10:48,800 --> 02:10:54,120
Speaker 1: Home lights off because they got their asses about it. Okay,

2411
02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:56,840
Speaker 1: So at the time, my security look at me. I said,

2412
02:10:56,880 --> 02:10:58,560
Speaker 1: you don't work for Tyler Perry.

2413
02:10:59,240 --> 02:11:00,800
Speaker 2: You could touche.

2414
02:11:00,920 --> 02:11:05,120
Speaker 1: So Tyler Perry says to me, listen, Monique, we really

2415
02:11:05,160 --> 02:11:08,080
Speaker 1: need you to, you know, promote this film because if

2416
02:11:08,120 --> 02:11:11,280
Speaker 1: you get nominated for the Oscar, your next movie is

2417
02:11:11,280 --> 02:11:14,760
Speaker 1: gonna be three to five million dollars. If you win it,

2418
02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:18,360
Speaker 1: your next movie is six to eight million dollars. I said,

2419
02:11:18,400 --> 02:11:21,560
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry, who you talking to I'm a black woman.

2420
02:11:22,520 --> 02:11:24,280
Speaker 1: Weren't they gonna pay that kind of money. No, I'm

2421
02:11:24,320 --> 02:11:26,920
Speaker 1: telling you that's what it is. And if you just

2422
02:11:26,960 --> 02:11:30,920
Speaker 1: go and promote it, I said, listen, brother, you can

2423
02:11:30,960 --> 02:11:32,520
Speaker 1: pay me to promote it. Because at the time now

2424
02:11:32,600 --> 02:11:34,960
Speaker 1: him and Oprah producers on a film. I said, you

2425
02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:36,400
Speaker 1: can pay me to do it. I don't care where

2426
02:11:36,400 --> 02:11:39,440
Speaker 1: the check coming from, but y'all to start, he said,

2427
02:11:39,480 --> 02:11:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm not in the habit of giving out money for free.

2428
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:43,160
Speaker 1: I said, and I'm not in the habit of working

2429
02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:45,440
Speaker 1: for free. But you gave TD Jakes a check for

2430
02:11:45,520 --> 02:11:47,680
Speaker 1: a million dollars. But that's another story, and I'm back.

2431
02:11:48,040 --> 02:11:50,760
Speaker 1: So when he then says that, it's like, listen, we

2432
02:11:50,840 --> 02:11:53,920
Speaker 1: both mutually agree. You don't give out free money. I

2433
02:11:53,960 --> 02:11:59,320
Speaker 1: don't work force. We hugged Shannon when we were done talking.

2434
02:11:59,440 --> 02:12:01,160
Speaker 1: We hu hugged. Do you hear me?

2435
02:12:01,360 --> 02:12:01,680
Speaker 2: Yes?

2436
02:12:01,960 --> 02:12:06,720
Speaker 1: We hugged like brother and sister. Like it's cool. He understands, right, Okay.

2437
02:12:06,760 --> 02:12:14,400
Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey calls my husband. I want you to take

2438
02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:17,160
Speaker 1: your time because I'm getting going on. Yeah, because the

2439
02:12:17,160 --> 02:12:18,920
Speaker 1: people at home, they sitting there like morning, what happened?

2440
02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm great. Take She calls my husband. My husband explains

2441
02:12:24,120 --> 02:12:26,800
Speaker 1: to her what's going on. She says, there have been

2442
02:12:26,840 --> 02:12:28,880
Speaker 1: times I've had to draw the line in the sand.

2443
02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:31,720
Speaker 1: So my husband said, well, what is different between you

2444
02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:34,400
Speaker 1: and Monique? You've got to draw the line. And you're

2445
02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:36,360
Speaker 1: saying when you know they're asking you for too much.

2446
02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:39,680
Speaker 1: She says, you're absolutely right, and I understand your position.

2447
02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:44,840
Speaker 1: You're right in the position. You'll take it. So when

2448
02:12:44,840 --> 02:12:47,920
Speaker 1: you're looking at me saying, well what happened, I'm telling

2449
02:12:47,920 --> 02:12:48,560
Speaker 1: you what happened.

2450
02:12:48,600 --> 02:12:53,960
Speaker 2: But okay, she's saying that privately, But did she voice

2451
02:12:54,080 --> 02:12:55,200
Speaker 2: that publicly?

2452
02:12:55,240 --> 02:12:56,280
Speaker 1: Did you hear her? Say it.

2453
02:12:57,080 --> 02:12:57,600
Speaker 2: I didn't.

2454
02:12:58,160 --> 02:13:02,240
Speaker 1: Did you hear her saying JT. Did you say it, Fay?

2455
02:13:02,600 --> 02:13:08,880
Speaker 1: Did you hear saying Zach Regina? Did you hear her Tommy? No?

2456
02:13:08,920 --> 02:13:12,080
Speaker 1: One seemed to hear that publicly. She said that privately.

2457
02:13:12,360 --> 02:13:16,120
Speaker 1: Now when she said that, see everything we're saying to you,

2458
02:13:16,920 --> 02:13:21,280
Speaker 1: it can be proven. She had him on speakerphone and

2459
02:13:21,320 --> 02:13:23,920
Speaker 1: that when she was talking to him. In that room

2460
02:13:24,040 --> 02:13:27,680
Speaker 1: was a man named Reggie Wells who just passed, who

2461
02:13:27,760 --> 02:13:30,160
Speaker 1: used to be Oprah Winfrey's makeup artist, who he had

2462
02:13:30,200 --> 02:13:32,920
Speaker 1: a conversation with me and my husband. Now for you babies,

2463
02:13:32,920 --> 02:13:35,400
Speaker 1: that's good with the little internet. We had a show

2464
02:13:35,400 --> 02:13:37,720
Speaker 1: on called Monique Sidney finding a Way to Be Unoffended,

2465
02:13:38,120 --> 02:13:40,920
Speaker 1: Finding a Way to be Unoffended. Reggie Wells is on

2466
02:13:41,000 --> 02:13:45,800
Speaker 1: that show speaking about Oprah Winfrey. Reggie Wells said, Monique,

2467
02:13:45,800 --> 02:13:48,240
Speaker 1: I was there that day, he said, and when y'all

2468
02:13:48,280 --> 02:13:49,920
Speaker 1: got off the phone, he looked. I looked at her

2469
02:13:49,920 --> 02:13:52,040
Speaker 1: and said, why don't you just pay this woman the

2470
02:13:52,080 --> 02:13:55,080
Speaker 1: money she deserves it? And she looked at him and said,

2471
02:13:55,080 --> 02:13:57,760
Speaker 1: I won't be paying on nothing, And he said that's

2472
02:13:57,800 --> 02:14:00,440
Speaker 1: not right. And you know it's not right. That man

2473
02:14:00,520 --> 02:14:03,360
Speaker 1: share that on that show. So I'm not saying nothing

2474
02:14:03,360 --> 02:14:06,840
Speaker 1: that hasn't been shared. So you have people that will

2475
02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:11,000
Speaker 1: say things in private but won't do it publicly. I'm

2476
02:14:11,040 --> 02:14:13,280
Speaker 1: the person that I will say it in private, and

2477
02:14:13,400 --> 02:14:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to say it publicly because that's the only

2478
02:14:16,120 --> 02:14:17,000
Speaker 1: way we make it right.

2479
02:14:17,160 --> 02:14:19,760
Speaker 2: But you don't need somebody to talk good till your face.

2480
02:14:19,840 --> 02:14:22,760
Speaker 2: You need somebody to talk good behind your back. So

2481
02:14:22,880 --> 02:14:24,760
Speaker 2: if you're telling me, if you're telling me what a

2482
02:14:24,800 --> 02:14:27,240
Speaker 2: great person I am in my face, but you're telling

2483
02:14:27,320 --> 02:14:30,600
Speaker 2: me I'm dog pooped behind my back, what good is that?

2484
02:14:30,720 --> 02:14:30,880
Speaker 3: Mom?

2485
02:14:31,000 --> 02:14:35,680
Speaker 1: What does that make those kind of people? Shannon's what

2486
02:14:35,760 --> 02:14:39,600
Speaker 1: does it make those kind of cowardly? That is cowardly. See,

2487
02:14:39,960 --> 02:14:43,680
Speaker 1: here's what's this. When we have our juggernauts, Oprah Winfrey,

2488
02:14:43,720 --> 02:14:48,280
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry, Steve Harvey, Kevin Hart, these are our juggernauts

2489
02:14:48,320 --> 02:14:51,160
Speaker 1: of our community. These are the people that our baby

2490
02:14:51,200 --> 02:14:53,320
Speaker 1: say when I grow up, I want to be that.

2491
02:14:53,480 --> 02:14:55,600
Speaker 1: I want to be like that. So we have to

2492
02:14:55,680 --> 02:14:59,480
Speaker 1: call those people to the met and say, listen, what

2493
02:14:59,560 --> 02:15:03,720
Speaker 1: are you teaching our babies. You're feeding poison because you're

2494
02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:06,200
Speaker 1: showing them you're private jet I'm gonna show you my mansion.

2495
02:15:06,200 --> 02:15:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you my fancy cars. But my character

2496
02:15:08,920 --> 02:15:11,720
Speaker 1: is shot and I'm bankrupt. I got a lot of

2497
02:15:11,760 --> 02:15:14,040
Speaker 1: money in my bank. It's more zeros than some of

2498
02:15:14,040 --> 02:15:19,040
Speaker 1: them can. Then we can imagic, but their character, they're bankrupt.

2499
02:15:20,400 --> 02:15:24,440
Speaker 1: Those are bankrupt people. So everybody that cats sat right

2500
02:15:24,480 --> 02:15:28,520
Speaker 1: here and told you about. I can't wait to see

2501
02:15:28,520 --> 02:15:30,200
Speaker 1: your next interviews with those people.

2502
02:15:31,320 --> 02:15:32,400
Speaker 2: They ain't coming on now.

2503
02:15:32,520 --> 02:15:36,040
Speaker 1: Mot invite them I have, They're not gonna do it.

2504
02:15:36,360 --> 02:15:39,600
Speaker 2: Well, look I've already done Steve. I have a relationship

2505
02:15:39,640 --> 02:15:40,000
Speaker 2: with Steve.

2506
02:15:40,080 --> 02:15:43,640
Speaker 1: He's doing them again. Do him again. And I'm gonna

2507
02:15:43,640 --> 02:15:44,000
Speaker 1: say this.

2508
02:15:44,760 --> 02:15:46,720
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get Oprah and Tyler.

2509
02:15:46,480 --> 02:15:48,760
Speaker 1: Doo Baby, we got him, y'all, come on, start playing.

2510
02:15:48,840 --> 02:15:50,920
Speaker 2: They ain't coming on more fakes, do you?

2511
02:15:50,920 --> 02:15:56,160
Speaker 1: You know how? And I don't want to put you

2512
02:15:56,200 --> 02:15:58,400
Speaker 1: on a spot, but I'm gonna say it because I

2513
02:15:58,480 --> 02:16:00,920
Speaker 1: appreciate you as a black man in what you're doing.

2514
02:16:02,600 --> 02:16:06,200
Speaker 1: If you are my friend and someone says to me,

2515
02:16:06,280 --> 02:16:12,720
Speaker 1: Monique Shannon shop wronged me and you my friend, I'm

2516
02:16:12,720 --> 02:16:16,280
Speaker 1: gonna call my friend and I'm gonna say, hey, is

2517
02:16:16,320 --> 02:16:19,400
Speaker 1: what they're saying true? And if you get to hymen

2518
02:16:19,440 --> 02:16:22,360
Speaker 1: the han I'm gonna tell you till you fix it.

2519
02:16:23,360 --> 02:16:26,800
Speaker 1: You and I can't talk because if you'll do them

2520
02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:29,720
Speaker 1: that way, it'll be a matter of time before you

2521
02:16:29,800 --> 02:16:31,880
Speaker 1: do it to me. So if Steve Harvey is your friend,

2522
02:16:32,600 --> 02:16:34,600
Speaker 1: you call your friend up and you ask him, is

2523
02:16:34,600 --> 02:16:37,360
Speaker 1: what our sister saying right man? Because if it is,

2524
02:16:37,720 --> 02:16:40,240
Speaker 1: we can't do that to her. If that's our sister.

2525
02:16:40,440 --> 02:16:45,280
Speaker 1: See it took a transgender name T. S. Madison. It

2526
02:16:45,320 --> 02:16:47,959
Speaker 1: was a guy named Jamaica Carter. Jamaica Carter and our

2527
02:16:48,040 --> 02:16:51,520
Speaker 1: mutual friend, Jamaica Carter and our friends T. S. Madison

2528
02:16:51,600 --> 02:16:54,039
Speaker 1: was a mutual friend. So Jamaica called me and said,

2529
02:16:54,040 --> 02:16:56,920
Speaker 1: would you mind doing T. S. Madison's show? I go

2530
02:16:56,959 --> 02:17:00,320
Speaker 1: do T. S. Madison's show. When I talk T. S. Madison,

2531
02:17:00,360 --> 02:17:03,760
Speaker 1: when the camera cuts, I said, listen, your friend is wrong.

2532
02:17:03,800 --> 02:17:06,320
Speaker 1: She said, moniquely dangerous my friend. I said, then you

2533
02:17:06,360 --> 02:17:07,960
Speaker 1: need to call your friend and tell him to fix

2534
02:17:08,040 --> 02:17:10,959
Speaker 1: this shit. She said, I will within a couple of days.

2535
02:17:10,959 --> 02:17:14,000
Speaker 1: Who did I get a call from Lee Daniels. See

2536
02:17:14,000 --> 02:17:17,200
Speaker 1: that's a friend, that's a true friend, that saying I

2537
02:17:17,240 --> 02:17:19,760
Speaker 1: love you so much that I want to make sure,

2538
02:17:19,800 --> 02:17:22,560
Speaker 1: that's not on your heart or your conscious. Let's fix it,

2539
02:17:22,959 --> 02:17:25,400
Speaker 1: let's make it right. So when people asked, Lee, now,

2540
02:17:25,400 --> 02:17:27,600
Speaker 1: when we did the deliverance together, how was it to

2541
02:17:27,640 --> 02:17:29,840
Speaker 1: work with Mo Nigue? It was as if we had

2542
02:17:29,840 --> 02:17:33,400
Speaker 1: never parted ways because he fixed it, he owned it,

2543
02:17:33,480 --> 02:17:36,800
Speaker 1: and he took accountability for it. I can't now keep

2544
02:17:36,840 --> 02:17:39,360
Speaker 1: you to the cross because you've owned it. I've had

2545
02:17:39,360 --> 02:17:43,440
Speaker 1: to be forgiven. So I appreciate that someone had grace

2546
02:17:43,480 --> 02:17:45,880
Speaker 1: and mercy with me. So I'm gonna have that with

2547
02:17:45,959 --> 02:17:48,800
Speaker 1: other people when they take accountability for what they've done.

2548
02:17:48,959 --> 02:17:51,760
Speaker 2: How much did you make for the role mary impression?

2549
02:17:51,800 --> 02:17:53,360
Speaker 1: I was paying fifty thousand dollars.

2550
02:17:53,560 --> 02:17:54,039
Speaker 2: That's it.

2551
02:17:54,840 --> 02:17:57,640
Speaker 1: That's it, and I never complained because that's what I

2552
02:17:57,640 --> 02:18:01,200
Speaker 1: signed up for. It was an independent film, right. So

2553
02:18:01,240 --> 02:18:03,840
Speaker 1: when my friend called me, and I'm gonna quote him,

2554
02:18:04,520 --> 02:18:08,280
Speaker 1: he said, bitch, this one right here, right here, He said,

2555
02:18:08,360 --> 02:18:10,959
Speaker 1: this shit is crazy. By the time I got the

2556
02:18:11,000 --> 02:18:13,440
Speaker 1: page ten, I called him back. I said, what the

2557
02:18:13,440 --> 02:18:16,520
Speaker 1: hell is this? Lee? He said, bitch, I know, he

2558
02:18:16,600 --> 02:18:19,720
Speaker 1: said it's sick. After my husband and I read that script,

2559
02:18:19,720 --> 02:18:23,160
Speaker 1: he said, Mama, if you play this with no judgment.

2560
02:18:24,240 --> 02:18:27,959
Speaker 1: When he say action. Don't judge the character just becoming

2561
02:18:28,480 --> 02:18:31,520
Speaker 1: This is an award winning Yes, this is award winning.

2562
02:18:31,920 --> 02:18:35,359
Speaker 1: So with all of that being said, I never complained

2563
02:18:35,400 --> 02:18:37,920
Speaker 1: about the fifty thousand dollars. I did everything I was

2564
02:18:37,920 --> 02:18:42,000
Speaker 1: supposed to do, no nothing. It is when they started

2565
02:18:42,080 --> 02:18:46,040
Speaker 1: asking me to become a slave. It is when Tyler

2566
02:18:46,120 --> 02:18:49,840
Speaker 1: Perry and Oprah Winfrey started asking me to work for free.

2567
02:18:50,000 --> 02:18:52,640
Speaker 1: It is when they started doing the bidding for whomever

2568
02:18:52,760 --> 02:18:55,280
Speaker 1: the gatekeeper was at the time to say we can

2569
02:18:55,280 --> 02:18:57,720
Speaker 1: get a Remember the scene in Sparkle. You ever seen

2570
02:18:57,720 --> 02:19:02,080
Speaker 1: Sparkle with Irene Carrol and Feeling Michael Thomas, Remember when

2571
02:19:02,120 --> 02:19:03,560
Speaker 1: they was in the car because the jew men was

2572
02:19:03,600 --> 02:19:05,720
Speaker 1: trying to get him to sign over that contract and

2573
02:19:05,760 --> 02:19:08,800
Speaker 1: he kept shaking his head like, you will not get

2574
02:19:08,879 --> 02:19:13,200
Speaker 1: me to turn my back on this woman. Right, That's

2575
02:19:13,240 --> 02:19:16,200
Speaker 1: what this is. We ain't turning all back. My husband

2576
02:19:16,200 --> 02:19:18,400
Speaker 1: ain't turning this back. He ain't signing it for something

2577
02:19:18,480 --> 02:19:21,200
Speaker 1: he know ain't right. And people have a problem with that.

2578
02:19:21,720 --> 02:19:24,040
Speaker 1: And we got to keep speaking on the Shannon because

2579
02:19:24,080 --> 02:19:26,320
Speaker 1: the next one's coming for real. I would hate for

2580
02:19:26,360 --> 02:19:28,760
Speaker 1: you to have to sit another sister in this chair

2581
02:19:29,959 --> 02:19:33,360
Speaker 1: and she tell you the same story.

2582
02:19:33,520 --> 02:19:39,440
Speaker 2: So considering you won the Oscar, Normally, when you win

2583
02:19:39,520 --> 02:19:42,440
Speaker 2: the Oscar, not saying you're gonna want another or get

2584
02:19:42,560 --> 02:19:47,600
Speaker 2: Oscar worthy scripts, but there's normally a run where you

2585
02:19:47,879 --> 02:19:51,520
Speaker 2: and you know two three films. Now Monique that fifty

2586
02:19:51,560 --> 02:19:54,000
Speaker 2: thousand is five hundred or a million or two million.

2587
02:19:55,440 --> 02:19:59,880
Speaker 2: You feel feel that you were blackball from that point,

2588
02:20:00,200 --> 02:20:03,320
Speaker 2: and Monique did not make the money what she should

2589
02:20:03,360 --> 02:20:05,720
Speaker 2: have been compensated for future roles.

2590
02:20:05,840 --> 02:20:09,080
Speaker 1: Let's tie it all back in Okay, Okay, you have

2591
02:20:09,160 --> 02:20:13,039
Speaker 1: a man that says a lot on you. Yes, I

2592
02:20:13,080 --> 02:20:15,280
Speaker 1: put a rumor out there on you. Yeah, and I

2593
02:20:15,320 --> 02:20:18,400
Speaker 1: said I was gonna apologize. But then you have another

2594
02:20:18,440 --> 02:20:21,400
Speaker 1: man that comes back when I'm offered empire and says, mo,

2595
02:20:21,840 --> 02:20:23,640
Speaker 1: they said you're difficult to work, which you're gonna be

2596
02:20:23,680 --> 02:20:26,600
Speaker 1: a problem. Where would they get that from?

2597
02:20:26,879 --> 02:20:29,120
Speaker 2: Wok somebody that is as powerful as as timing.

2598
02:20:29,240 --> 02:20:34,160
Speaker 1: Okay, so now I'm scratched from that right now when

2599
02:20:34,200 --> 02:20:38,600
Speaker 1: it comes to movies, I'm a difficult person to work with.

2600
02:20:38,879 --> 02:20:40,280
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody ever had a problem with me?

2601
02:20:40,560 --> 02:20:43,160
Speaker 2: They never said, did they say, did anybody say that

2602
02:20:43,320 --> 02:20:44,160
Speaker 2: pride oppression?

2603
02:20:44,280 --> 02:20:47,400
Speaker 1: Yes? No, not prior oppression. Right, I've never had a

2604
02:20:47,440 --> 02:20:50,840
Speaker 1: problem with nobody as long as I was saying, yes,

2605
02:20:50,879 --> 02:20:54,000
Speaker 1: you're good. The moment you start challenging, we got a problem.

2606
02:20:54,080 --> 02:20:57,600
Speaker 2: What about the Parker? What about Moesha? Had anybody said

2607
02:20:57,720 --> 02:21:03,400
Speaker 2: anything prior about Monique's directer, prior to her not wanting

2608
02:21:03,440 --> 02:21:07,959
Speaker 2: to do international press what she's wasn't contractually obligated to do,

2609
02:21:08,400 --> 02:21:09,720
Speaker 2: proud of that. Nobody said anything.

2610
02:21:09,920 --> 02:21:13,360
Speaker 1: Never. The only person that could say anything that is

2611
02:21:13,440 --> 02:21:16,720
Speaker 1: a producer is a guy named Will Packer. I did

2612
02:21:16,760 --> 02:21:20,200
Speaker 1: a movie called Almost Christmas. When Will Packer sat down

2613
02:21:20,240 --> 02:21:22,520
Speaker 1: with my husband and I Shannon, every other word out

2614
02:21:22,560 --> 02:21:25,120
Speaker 1: his mouth was queen you our queen, and then the

2615
02:21:25,200 --> 02:21:27,320
Speaker 1: queen and the queen and the queen, and we just

2616
02:21:27,360 --> 02:21:30,280
Speaker 1: want you to do a cameo. And here's what we're

2617
02:21:30,280 --> 02:21:34,640
Speaker 1: gonna pay you. My husband said, Will, that does not

2618
02:21:34,680 --> 02:21:37,680
Speaker 1: cover mo Nick doing promotions. That covers none of that. Brother,

2619
02:21:38,000 --> 02:21:39,200
Speaker 1: this is just for the cameo.

2620
02:21:39,280 --> 02:21:39,800
Speaker 2: Okay.

2621
02:21:40,320 --> 02:21:43,640
Speaker 1: The director was David Tobert. My husband and David Talbert

2622
02:21:43,680 --> 02:21:46,000
Speaker 1: were college roommates. They were across the hall from on

2623
02:21:46,080 --> 02:21:50,600
Speaker 1: the night in the script, I was that quick because

2624
02:21:50,640 --> 02:21:54,520
Speaker 1: it's a cameo. Okay, So ninety nine percent of the

2625
02:21:54,560 --> 02:21:57,680
Speaker 1: things you heard. May say it was Monique, it was

2626
02:21:58,440 --> 02:22:03,000
Speaker 1: me at libbyty because it's a cameo. Right when we

2627
02:22:03,080 --> 02:22:05,080
Speaker 1: had a meeting with Will Packer, Will Packer says, if

2628
02:22:05,120 --> 02:22:07,040
Speaker 1: you do this for me, I'll give you a three

2629
02:22:07,080 --> 02:22:11,119
Speaker 1: pitcher deal. And they sit calm. Now we have all

2630
02:22:11,160 --> 02:22:13,440
Speaker 1: of this in writing. It's all And.

2631
02:22:13,760 --> 02:22:15,360
Speaker 2: What were you? What were you? What were you? What

2632
02:22:15,360 --> 02:22:17,160
Speaker 2: were you needing to do a press? You were gonna

2633
02:22:17,200 --> 02:22:18,800
Speaker 2: need to do press for it. You're gonna need to

2634
02:22:18,800 --> 02:22:20,959
Speaker 2: promote it, or just just do the.

2635
02:22:21,320 --> 02:22:23,840
Speaker 1: Just do the cameo. That is what was agreed upon.

2636
02:22:23,920 --> 02:22:25,920
Speaker 1: We were gonna do a cameo for the amount of

2637
02:22:25,959 --> 02:22:28,600
Speaker 1: money that he said they were gonna pay. No problem.

2638
02:22:28,840 --> 02:22:31,240
Speaker 1: Well what they did was they kept spreading it out.

2639
02:22:31,480 --> 02:22:33,840
Speaker 1: They kept spreading this character out. We want you on

2640
02:22:33,920 --> 02:22:35,160
Speaker 1: this scene and that scene in this scene.

2641
02:22:35,320 --> 02:22:36,440
Speaker 2: Ain't no cameo cameo.

2642
02:22:37,280 --> 02:22:40,640
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, David Tabert is our family, is our friend.

2643
02:22:41,040 --> 02:22:43,160
Speaker 1: We don't want to make this bad for David Tybert.

2644
02:22:43,240 --> 02:22:47,039
Speaker 1: So we said, okay, no problem. Now let's talk about

2645
02:22:47,080 --> 02:22:51,320
Speaker 1: the treatment. While we're on that set of Almost Christmas,

2646
02:22:51,400 --> 02:22:52,959
Speaker 1: there were a few things that was happening that I

2647
02:22:53,000 --> 02:22:57,840
Speaker 1: took issue with. Will Packer is a producer. He came

2648
02:22:57,879 --> 02:22:59,800
Speaker 1: on that set and tried to give us a direction

2649
02:23:00,200 --> 02:23:03,520
Speaker 1: while the director was standing right there. I said, Will Packer,

2650
02:23:03,600 --> 02:23:05,560
Speaker 1: I will not allow you to do that. You would

2651
02:23:05,560 --> 02:23:07,879
Speaker 1: never do that to Steven Spielberg. You would never do

2652
02:23:07,920 --> 02:23:10,160
Speaker 1: that to a white director. You as a producer, going

2653
02:23:10,160 --> 02:23:11,959
Speaker 1: to just walk in and give a direction. So I

2654
02:23:12,000 --> 02:23:14,640
Speaker 1: will not take direction from you. If you have something

2655
02:23:14,640 --> 02:23:16,200
Speaker 1: you want to give to me, you give it to

2656
02:23:16,240 --> 02:23:18,480
Speaker 1: the director, and you have the director to give it

2657
02:23:18,520 --> 02:23:21,080
Speaker 1: to me, you are disrespectful to him. Now. I had

2658
02:23:21,120 --> 02:23:25,640
Speaker 1: a meeting in David Talbot's trailer with Will Packer, David Talbert,

2659
02:23:25,680 --> 02:23:28,440
Speaker 1: and the first AD because they were being disrespectful to

2660
02:23:28,480 --> 02:23:30,800
Speaker 1: this black man and I was not going to allow

2661
02:23:30,840 --> 02:23:33,280
Speaker 1: that to happen. I had a conversation with the first

2662
02:23:33,360 --> 02:23:36,400
Speaker 1: AD and I pulled him outside. I said, listen, brother,

2663
02:23:36,680 --> 02:23:38,680
Speaker 1: when it's your turn, I won't let nobody do it

2664
02:23:38,720 --> 02:23:40,520
Speaker 1: to you. But what I'm not going to do is

2665
02:23:40,560 --> 02:23:43,600
Speaker 1: stand by and watch you give a direction after the

2666
02:23:43,680 --> 02:23:46,920
Speaker 1: director give us a direction. It confuses the cast and

2667
02:23:46,959 --> 02:23:50,280
Speaker 1: it's disrespectful. And to that black man's credit, his eyes

2668
02:23:50,320 --> 02:23:52,720
Speaker 1: filled up with water, and he said, I appreciate you

2669
02:23:52,920 --> 02:23:56,920
Speaker 1: by having this conversation with me. Okay, so we'll pack

2670
02:23:56,959 --> 02:23:59,640
Speaker 1: and I now at odds because I'm seeing how this

2671
02:23:59,680 --> 02:24:03,760
Speaker 1: brother is acting. I'm in my trailer. My assistant at

2672
02:24:03,760 --> 02:24:06,760
Speaker 1: the time, her name was Robin, right, Robin is in

2673
02:24:06,800 --> 02:24:09,879
Speaker 1: her fifties. She's in my trailer with her shoes off.

2674
02:24:09,920 --> 02:24:14,000
Speaker 1: She's on the computer. Will Packer's friend or I'm not

2675
02:24:14,040 --> 02:24:17,960
Speaker 1: sure what title to give her. Okay, she comes into

2676
02:24:18,040 --> 02:24:21,959
Speaker 1: the trailer. Now in this trailer, it is me, my hairstylist,

2677
02:24:22,280 --> 02:24:25,480
Speaker 1: makeup artist, and my assistant. This young lady who we're

2678
02:24:25,560 --> 02:24:28,600
Speaker 1: all old enough to be her mother. She comes and

2679
02:24:28,640 --> 02:24:30,920
Speaker 1: looks at my assistant and says, what's your shoes doing off?

2680
02:24:33,320 --> 02:24:34,760
Speaker 2: You and your trailer? Why do you care?

2681
02:24:35,720 --> 02:24:39,520
Speaker 1: I said, excuse me, you're out of order. You donna

2682
02:24:39,520 --> 02:24:42,920
Speaker 1: come in here questioning nobody in my trailer as a

2683
02:24:42,959 --> 02:24:45,360
Speaker 1: matter of fact, and her energy was not that of

2684
02:24:45,480 --> 02:24:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm playing. It was what I said, as a matter

2685
02:24:48,080 --> 02:24:50,200
Speaker 1: of fact, I need you to go get Will because

2686
02:24:50,240 --> 02:24:52,720
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna have this conversation with you. I'm

2687
02:24:52,760 --> 02:24:55,840
Speaker 1: gonna talk to your boss. When Will Packer comes into

2688
02:24:55,959 --> 02:24:58,280
Speaker 1: that trailer for us to talk. Do you know what

2689
02:24:58,320 --> 02:25:01,440
Speaker 1: that man says to me and my hairstylist and my

2690
02:25:01,520 --> 02:25:04,600
Speaker 1: makeup artist and my assistant. I am the head nigga

2691
02:25:04,680 --> 02:25:10,280
Speaker 1: in charge. Everything stops with me. I said, well, I

2692
02:25:10,320 --> 02:25:12,720
Speaker 1: want to let you notice, Well, you're gonna hear that

2693
02:25:12,760 --> 02:25:14,360
Speaker 1: you're the head and nigga in charge from me as

2694
02:25:14,400 --> 02:25:16,840
Speaker 1: many times as I can tell people. That's what you said.

2695
02:25:17,120 --> 02:25:19,680
Speaker 1: I said, And furthermore, you need to check your assistant

2696
02:25:20,160 --> 02:25:22,640
Speaker 1: because this is my space. We weren't in your trailer

2697
02:25:22,680 --> 02:25:24,840
Speaker 1: with our shoes off. We're in my space with our

2698
02:25:24,879 --> 02:25:25,280
Speaker 1: shoes off.

2699
02:25:25,320 --> 02:25:26,840
Speaker 2: But why would he come Why would he come to

2700
02:25:26,920 --> 02:25:33,280
Speaker 2: you with that type of managery? What what led him

2701
02:25:33,320 --> 02:25:37,160
Speaker 2: to say that when all you asked his assistant to

2702
02:25:37,200 --> 02:25:40,320
Speaker 2: do was to go get him because she's questioning why

2703
02:25:40,400 --> 02:25:42,080
Speaker 2: people in your trailer have the truth.

2704
02:25:42,120 --> 02:25:43,840
Speaker 1: That's a good one, because what I said to him

2705
02:25:43,959 --> 02:25:46,480
Speaker 1: was who do we need to talk to? This young

2706
02:25:46,520 --> 02:25:48,440
Speaker 1: lady can't be up in here like that. And that's

2707
02:25:48,440 --> 02:25:50,760
Speaker 1: when he became the head nigga in charge. And then

2708
02:25:50,800 --> 02:25:52,200
Speaker 1: I said, who are you the head and nigga in

2709
02:25:52,280 --> 02:25:55,280
Speaker 1: charge of? We have Danny Glover on this set, we

2710
02:25:55,360 --> 02:25:57,200
Speaker 1: have a legend and the icon. Are you the head

2711
02:25:57,280 --> 02:25:59,160
Speaker 1: nigga in charge of him? Are you the head nigga

2712
02:25:59,200 --> 02:26:00,960
Speaker 1: in charge of kimble A? Are you the head and

2713
02:26:01,000 --> 02:26:03,119
Speaker 1: nigga in charge of Gabrielle Union? Are you the head

2714
02:26:03,200 --> 02:26:05,320
Speaker 1: nigga in charge of JB. Smooth? Who are you the

2715
02:26:05,360 --> 02:26:07,680
Speaker 1: head and nigga in charge of so? He tried to

2716
02:26:07,800 --> 02:26:10,160
Speaker 1: laugh at and joke it. I said, I don't play

2717
02:26:10,160 --> 02:26:13,000
Speaker 1: that way, brother. I said. The food is bad like

2718
02:26:13,080 --> 02:26:15,720
Speaker 1: what we're doing here. The food was slopped. So when

2719
02:26:15,760 --> 02:26:18,880
Speaker 1: they say they didn't have any food, the food we had,

2720
02:26:18,920 --> 02:26:21,240
Speaker 1: nobody ever ate that food because it was just like

2721
02:26:21,280 --> 02:26:23,800
Speaker 1: you can feed them anything. Now here's where it gets

2722
02:26:23,800 --> 02:26:28,640
Speaker 1: even better. Remember how Taragie said the trailers were infested. Yes,

2723
02:26:29,160 --> 02:26:36,800
Speaker 1: our trailers blew up. Wow, they blew up. Now, whenever

2724
02:26:36,840 --> 02:26:39,840
Speaker 1: this airs, I'm gonna post the trailer's blowing up so

2725
02:26:39,879 --> 02:26:42,760
Speaker 1: the people can see. But they blew up, and if

2726
02:26:42,800 --> 02:26:45,360
Speaker 1: any of us were in those trailers, we would have

2727
02:26:45,440 --> 02:26:50,000
Speaker 1: been gone. The trailers blew up. Now, when I was

2728
02:26:50,040 --> 02:26:53,800
Speaker 1: smelling the gas, we went to the brothers that was

2729
02:26:53,800 --> 02:26:57,400
Speaker 1: hooking up the trailers and we said, hey, we smell gas.

2730
02:26:58,280 --> 02:27:01,760
Speaker 1: They said, mo let him know, talking about the head

2731
02:27:01,840 --> 02:27:04,039
Speaker 1: nigga in charge. We let him know. He just said

2732
02:27:04,040 --> 02:27:06,840
Speaker 1: okay and walk away. I said, he what he just

2733
02:27:06,840 --> 02:27:11,440
Speaker 1: said okay and walked away. The trailers blew up. Did

2734
02:27:11,440 --> 02:27:14,120
Speaker 1: we'll Packer reach out to anybody? I can't say. He

2735
02:27:14,120 --> 02:27:16,800
Speaker 1: didn't reach out to me and say, hey, is everything okay?

2736
02:27:17,520 --> 02:27:21,520
Speaker 1: Did you lose anything in the in the is everything good?

2737
02:27:21,800 --> 02:27:23,760
Speaker 1: The only thing they wanted to know from me was

2738
02:27:24,040 --> 02:27:29,519
Speaker 1: where was Aunt May's wigs? Huh where are those wigs?

2739
02:27:30,080 --> 02:27:35,199
Speaker 1: Nobody asked, not the studio, not will Packer, not nobody

2740
02:27:35,560 --> 02:27:39,800
Speaker 1: wow said are you good? Did you lose anything? I said,

2741
02:27:39,800 --> 02:27:45,040
Speaker 1: the wigs blew up in the explosion. So to understand

2742
02:27:45,800 --> 02:27:49,120
Speaker 1: what we have to deal with, and to understand most

2743
02:27:49,200 --> 02:27:54,520
Speaker 1: people are too afraid to say it out loud that

2744
02:27:54,640 --> 02:27:58,880
Speaker 1: we are being mistreated. This is this is this is

2745
02:27:58,920 --> 02:28:01,720
Speaker 1: not right. So if that means y'all won't want to

2746
02:28:01,720 --> 02:28:03,760
Speaker 1: play with me, I don't want to play with you either.

2747
02:28:03,840 --> 02:28:05,920
Speaker 1: Let's be clear. I don't want to play with somebody

2748
02:28:05,920 --> 02:28:09,320
Speaker 1: that don't care if I've blown up? What if we

2749
02:28:09,320 --> 02:28:12,119
Speaker 1: were in those trailers? What do y'all say to my family?

2750
02:28:14,000 --> 02:28:18,120
Speaker 1: What do you say? So with precious. I owe no

2751
02:28:18,160 --> 02:28:22,840
Speaker 1: one anything. With almost Christmas, I owed you nothing. However,

2752
02:28:23,000 --> 02:28:25,280
Speaker 1: I did it because we had a relationship with a

2753
02:28:25,320 --> 02:28:28,280
Speaker 1: brother named David towert and we didn't want to send

2754
02:28:28,360 --> 02:28:31,119
Speaker 1: him do no drama, no nothing, so we went along

2755
02:28:31,120 --> 02:28:33,800
Speaker 1: with it. Other than that Shannon's Shop, there is no

2756
02:28:33,840 --> 02:28:36,119
Speaker 1: one that can say that, will sit in my face,

2757
02:28:36,560 --> 02:28:38,880
Speaker 1: on my husband's face and say we had a bad

2758
02:28:38,920 --> 02:28:39,720
Speaker 1: experience with you.

2759
02:28:41,640 --> 02:28:43,920
Speaker 2: I read that you said, you read this is a

2760
02:28:44,040 --> 02:28:48,440
Speaker 2: chapter of forgiveness. That's your thing chapter.

2761
02:28:48,760 --> 02:28:50,280
Speaker 1: I didn't say that. That's what the guy in Hollywood

2762
02:28:50,320 --> 02:28:53,400
Speaker 1: reporter said. Okay, don't put words in my mouth. That's

2763
02:28:53,440 --> 02:28:56,960
Speaker 1: not what I said. That's what his ass said. Okay, Okay,

2764
02:28:57,160 --> 02:28:58,039
Speaker 1: that's what he said.

2765
02:28:58,080 --> 02:29:02,199
Speaker 2: Listen, what would it take more? What would it take

2766
02:29:02,640 --> 02:29:09,160
Speaker 2: for Mo need to forgive Oprah and Tyler Perry.

2767
02:29:10,040 --> 02:29:14,000
Speaker 1: Be accountable, be accountable as.

2768
02:29:14,040 --> 02:29:16,360
Speaker 2: You old Tyler Perry to say what he said on

2769
02:29:16,400 --> 02:29:17,640
Speaker 2: that tape. You want him to say that.

2770
02:29:17,640 --> 02:29:22,360
Speaker 1: Public and he cost my family millions. Yes, I want

2771
02:29:22,360 --> 02:29:26,000
Speaker 1: to be very clear about that. If someone cost you millions,

2772
02:29:26,040 --> 02:29:26,840
Speaker 1: do you want that bad?

2773
02:29:27,000 --> 02:29:27,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

2774
02:29:27,640 --> 02:29:30,360
Speaker 1: So. I'm no different than you, especially when I've done

2775
02:29:30,400 --> 02:29:34,360
Speaker 1: nothing wrong, especially when you've admitted that you've lied, especially

2776
02:29:34,400 --> 02:29:37,879
Speaker 1: when you've admitted that you started a rumor. Yes, you

2777
02:29:38,000 --> 02:29:41,080
Speaker 1: need to compensate me and my family for Oprah. For

2778
02:29:41,200 --> 02:29:46,920
Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey, you owe me an apology. See Shannon, Oprah

2779
02:29:46,959 --> 02:29:50,959
Speaker 1: and I had a private conversation about our mothers. This

2780
02:29:51,080 --> 02:29:54,400
Speaker 1: the part people don't know. I shared with that woman

2781
02:29:54,440 --> 02:29:56,760
Speaker 1: with me and my mother were going through. Now my

2782
02:29:56,760 --> 02:30:01,200
Speaker 1: mother is no longer here, right, shared with Oprah Winfrey

2783
02:30:01,520 --> 02:30:03,920
Speaker 1: what we were going through and how I felt. And

2784
02:30:03,959 --> 02:30:06,840
Speaker 1: I was, you know, you trying to balance it off

2785
02:30:06,840 --> 02:30:09,480
Speaker 1: because it's your mother. And I shared that with you,

2786
02:30:09,560 --> 02:30:11,840
Speaker 1: and I shared with her my family and what the

2787
02:30:11,920 --> 02:30:14,440
Speaker 1: dynamic was. And you don't tell me you're gonna have

2788
02:30:14,440 --> 02:30:17,000
Speaker 1: my guide their parents. I was getting ready to say,

2789
02:30:17,000 --> 02:30:18,960
Speaker 1: God damn baby, it was right there. But you don't

2790
02:30:18,959 --> 02:30:21,320
Speaker 1: tell me your great had my mother and my father

2791
02:30:21,400 --> 02:30:24,560
Speaker 1: on your show and you think that that's just okay.

2792
02:30:25,000 --> 02:30:26,960
Speaker 1: And the way you try to apologize in front of

2793
02:30:27,000 --> 02:30:30,000
Speaker 1: a group of women. If you think I've done anything wrong,

2794
02:30:32,000 --> 02:30:35,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna stop that, right. I am very proud of

2795
02:30:35,080 --> 02:30:39,920
Speaker 1: what you've accomplished in your life. We respect everybody, but

2796
02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:45,000
Speaker 1: we over respect no one. And Oprah Winfrey walks around

2797
02:30:45,080 --> 02:30:48,039
Speaker 1: like I can't be checked. I won't admit to that.

2798
02:30:48,080 --> 02:30:52,720
Speaker 1: I'm no one is beyond no one at all. So

2799
02:30:52,760 --> 02:30:55,120
Speaker 1: when you keep saying what is it, I'm gonna keep

2800
02:30:55,120 --> 02:30:57,959
Speaker 1: answering you the same exact way. So if you talk

2801
02:30:58,040 --> 02:30:59,800
Speaker 1: to your camera, I'm gonna talk to my camera and

2802
02:30:59,800 --> 02:31:01,800
Speaker 1: see how they split the screen, and we're gonna invite

2803
02:31:01,879 --> 02:31:03,840
Speaker 1: them at the same time. You talked to him first.

2804
02:31:04,560 --> 02:31:07,879
Speaker 2: Uh, Tyler, Oprah, I would greatly appreciate it if you

2805
02:31:07,959 --> 02:31:10,880
Speaker 2: two guys would come on Club Shayshay, we sit down,

2806
02:31:10,920 --> 02:31:13,200
Speaker 2: we have a conversation. This is not an interview, This

2807
02:31:13,280 --> 02:31:15,879
Speaker 2: is not hard hitting. I want you to tell your truth,

2808
02:31:16,160 --> 02:31:19,039
Speaker 2: miss Oprah or Tyler, tell your truth and we can

2809
02:31:19,040 --> 02:31:21,360
Speaker 2: get to the bottom of this. Because hey, we got

2810
02:31:21,400 --> 02:31:23,400
Speaker 2: an icon here sitting on this couch and she's.

2811
02:31:23,320 --> 02:31:27,440
Speaker 1: Hurting Oprah and Tyler. I want to say, I appreciate

2812
02:31:27,480 --> 02:31:29,920
Speaker 1: my brother Shannon Shaw for saying what he just said,

2813
02:31:30,160 --> 02:31:33,280
Speaker 1: and I want to clear something up. I'm not hurt personally.

2814
02:31:33,520 --> 02:31:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm hurt for our community. I'm hurt that y'all would

2815
02:31:36,959 --> 02:31:40,400
Speaker 1: allow yourselves to sit in something that you know that

2816
02:31:40,440 --> 02:31:43,480
Speaker 1: you've done wrong and not say anything that helps us.

2817
02:31:43,560 --> 02:31:47,280
Speaker 1: Not so Brother Shasha have said, y'all come on the sofa, Oprah.

2818
02:31:47,320 --> 02:31:50,360
Speaker 1: This liper is good, Okay. And I understand you like

2819
02:31:50,440 --> 02:31:53,800
Speaker 1: cranberry and vodka. Okay. Roosevelt cart Right told me your

2820
02:31:53,879 --> 02:31:55,600
Speaker 1: drink that you like, and you know, he told me

2821
02:31:55,640 --> 02:31:57,959
Speaker 1: some other things, but the drink that you're like. Come on,

2822
02:31:58,160 --> 02:32:01,480
Speaker 1: uncle Shay, Shay, let's have a conversation. And well, you

2823
02:32:01,480 --> 02:32:05,320
Speaker 1: took yours all the way down and I cannot okay, Okay,

2824
02:32:05,400 --> 02:32:09,480
Speaker 1: I cannot. I cannot do that you already did. Thank you, sugar. Now,

2825
02:32:09,520 --> 02:32:11,039
Speaker 1: when we get ready wrap up, I'm gonna give you

2826
02:32:11,040 --> 02:32:14,160
Speaker 1: an exclusive on something that I don't nobody know. Okay,

2827
02:32:14,400 --> 02:32:17,720
Speaker 1: don't nobody know this, And it's gonna be something.

2828
02:32:17,760 --> 02:32:18,480
Speaker 2: It's gonna be something.

2829
02:32:18,520 --> 02:32:20,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be something I want to get you.

2830
02:32:20,440 --> 02:32:22,520
Speaker 2: Look, I know it's dramatic, and if you don't want

2831
02:32:22,520 --> 02:32:25,600
Speaker 2: to have to relive it, you don't have to what

2832
02:32:25,760 --> 02:32:32,000
Speaker 2: you went through with your brother, Yes, when you're going

2833
02:32:32,080 --> 02:32:40,039
Speaker 2: through that, how is that impacting you during that time?

2834
02:32:40,080 --> 02:32:42,000
Speaker 2: Because I think you're seven to thirteen.

2835
02:32:43,440 --> 02:32:45,199
Speaker 1: You better do your damn homework.

2836
02:32:45,240 --> 02:32:50,320
Speaker 2: Shannon Shaw and the impact that has had on you

2837
02:32:50,600 --> 02:32:52,400
Speaker 2: and your relationship with men.

2838
02:32:52,720 --> 02:33:01,000
Speaker 1: Oh Channing trying to be a journalist should not do this.

2839
02:33:01,120 --> 02:33:03,760
Speaker 1: Look at you can't damn you see.

2840
02:33:03,560 --> 02:33:04,560
Speaker 4: You're trying to cut my brother.

2841
02:33:04,680 --> 02:33:16,840
Speaker 1: Woman's get off my brother. Were then time? Wow? Remember

2842
02:33:16,879 --> 02:33:18,720
Speaker 1: when you said and I don't know if you said this,

2843
02:33:18,760 --> 02:33:20,280
Speaker 1: so I don't want to quote it because I could

2844
02:33:20,320 --> 02:33:22,840
Speaker 1: be wrong. But someone said, Shannon Sharp, don't mess with

2845
02:33:22,879 --> 02:33:23,440
Speaker 1: black women.

2846
02:33:25,160 --> 02:33:27,760
Speaker 2: And before are you going to further? Can I say

2847
02:33:27,800 --> 02:33:31,640
Speaker 2: this please? My grandmother told me something out the little boy.

2848
02:33:32,320 --> 02:33:34,000
Speaker 2: She said, boy never chased a lie.

2849
02:33:34,800 --> 02:33:39,480
Speaker 1: Come on, baby, come on, come on, and you never

2850
02:33:39,520 --> 02:33:42,360
Speaker 1: said that, right, Okay, So that's why I said I

2851
02:33:42,440 --> 02:33:45,039
Speaker 1: got black kids. That's what I said. I said that

2852
02:33:45,120 --> 02:33:49,280
Speaker 1: baby's black black. Yes, they're not confusing. We ain't trying

2853
02:33:49,280 --> 02:33:51,720
Speaker 1: to see if she Latin or Dominican. They black black,

2854
02:33:51,800 --> 02:33:54,480
Speaker 1: They mama got black black. Everybody that's shying at mess

2855
02:33:54,480 --> 02:33:59,519
Speaker 1: away was black black? Right, black black? Okay, So they

2856
02:33:59,760 --> 02:34:08,119
Speaker 1: theyre as this thing with us that you can't tell

2857
02:34:08,200 --> 02:34:12,760
Speaker 1: us nothing. And oftentimes when a black woman's been traumatized,

2858
02:34:12,800 --> 02:34:16,760
Speaker 1: she's guarded. Now you take a black woman that's been

2859
02:34:16,760 --> 02:34:21,200
Speaker 1: traumatized and now she got a little bit of money,

2860
02:34:22,360 --> 02:34:27,280
Speaker 1: and you take black men, some of them that is

2861
02:34:27,280 --> 02:34:31,640
Speaker 1: impressed with the money. So I can say to you

2862
02:34:31,680 --> 02:34:35,560
Speaker 1: what I want to, not being totally disrespectful, but you

2863
02:34:35,600 --> 02:34:38,400
Speaker 1: know who's running this, you know how we do this.

2864
02:34:39,520 --> 02:34:45,959
Speaker 1: I've always had an aggressive personality. I have always jumped

2865
02:34:47,360 --> 02:34:51,959
Speaker 1: with if I think you're trying to violate, So to say,

2866
02:34:51,959 --> 02:35:00,200
Speaker 1: what did that do to me? It made me like this,

2867
02:35:01,560 --> 02:35:03,920
Speaker 1: and it made me say I'll get you before you

2868
02:35:03,959 --> 02:35:06,160
Speaker 1: can get me, because I know what it's like to

2869
02:35:06,200 --> 02:35:08,760
Speaker 1: not be in control of what you're taking from me.

2870
02:35:09,160 --> 02:35:10,760
Speaker 1: I know what it's like to be in a position

2871
02:35:10,800 --> 02:35:14,920
Speaker 1: where there's nothing I can do right. So when it

2872
02:35:15,000 --> 02:35:19,480
Speaker 1: came to men, baby, listen, I had my share. Okay,

2873
02:35:20,000 --> 02:35:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I was no whore, but I was close. Hey,

2874
02:35:25,320 --> 02:35:27,400
Speaker 1: come on now saying to get back to me, now,

2875
02:35:27,480 --> 02:35:30,160
Speaker 1: get back to me, call me later, call me day

2876
02:35:30,280 --> 02:35:33,920
Speaker 1: and called me later, baby, come on. Because you're a

2877
02:35:33,920 --> 02:35:36,080
Speaker 1: football player with a lot of money. When you go

2878
02:35:36,120 --> 02:35:38,000
Speaker 1: into a city and you was in your prime, you

2879
02:35:38,040 --> 02:35:41,160
Speaker 1: had your pick. It's no different for a woman. When

2880
02:35:41,200 --> 02:35:42,960
Speaker 1: I went into a city, everybody wanted to be Professor

2881
02:35:43,000 --> 02:35:49,200
Speaker 1: Ogovich Hey, and I would pick him. Okay, you look

2882
02:35:49,320 --> 02:35:49,720
Speaker 1: like you.

2883
02:35:49,600 --> 02:35:52,600
Speaker 2: Could think, bussy, here the thing now, all of a sudden,

2884
02:35:53,000 --> 02:35:58,160
Speaker 2: you being this fat black woman. It ain't a problem. God,

2885
02:35:58,160 --> 02:35:59,560
Speaker 2: I remember, I remember you say it was.

2886
02:36:00,000 --> 02:36:02,959
Speaker 1: They say that it wasn't never a problem with me

2887
02:36:03,000 --> 02:36:05,600
Speaker 1: being a fat black woman because real black man, they like,

2888
02:36:05,640 --> 02:36:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm in all and size. It's all complex and it

2889
02:36:09,120 --> 02:36:11,920
Speaker 1: is these new nick rolls that get into she gotta

2890
02:36:11,959 --> 02:36:14,120
Speaker 1: be this way, she gotta be that way. But real

2891
02:36:14,240 --> 02:36:20,840
Speaker 1: black man, if you can make a poundcake, nugget what

2892
02:36:21,000 --> 02:36:25,560
Speaker 1: y'all talk about? What's you talk about? But what it did, though,

2893
02:36:26,240 --> 02:36:28,520
Speaker 1: was and this is why I feel the way I

2894
02:36:28,560 --> 02:36:29,600
Speaker 1: feel about my husband.

2895
02:36:29,600 --> 02:36:30,120
Speaker 2: Okay.

2896
02:36:31,320 --> 02:36:33,160
Speaker 1: I remember him saying to me one night, because when

2897
02:36:33,200 --> 02:36:36,039
Speaker 1: we first got together, I was a handful of Shannon

2898
02:36:36,800 --> 02:36:39,760
Speaker 1: and that's when I was really sick in the way

2899
02:36:39,800 --> 02:36:43,720
Speaker 1: that I thought. And he said, check this out. You've

2900
02:36:43,840 --> 02:36:46,680
Speaker 1: used your brother molesting you as a crutch for your

2901
02:36:46,720 --> 02:36:50,680
Speaker 1: bad behavior, he said, And I won't allow that, he said.

2902
02:36:50,680 --> 02:36:52,440
Speaker 1: When you was a little girl, there was nothing you

2903
02:36:52,480 --> 02:36:54,400
Speaker 1: can do about it. But now it's a grown woman.

2904
02:36:54,480 --> 02:36:57,280
Speaker 1: Every choice and decision you make it is yours. And

2905
02:36:57,320 --> 02:36:59,760
Speaker 1: I will not allow you to keep on saying because

2906
02:36:59,760 --> 02:37:01,920
Speaker 1: of my brother, because at what point do you take

2907
02:37:01,920 --> 02:37:06,320
Speaker 1: accountability for you baby? That grew me up in that night,

2908
02:37:06,480 --> 02:37:08,879
Speaker 1: that grew my ass up that night so fast because

2909
02:37:08,920 --> 02:37:11,480
Speaker 1: I wanted I wanted to hear what my psychiatry, my

2910
02:37:11,560 --> 02:37:15,000
Speaker 1: psychiatrist was saying to me. I understand. My husband was like,

2911
02:37:15,120 --> 02:37:18,440
Speaker 1: check this out, check this out. You are in control

2912
02:37:18,520 --> 02:37:22,040
Speaker 1: of you, every choice and decision you make, every one

2913
02:37:22,080 --> 02:37:24,400
Speaker 1: you lay down with, that was your choice. You've never

2914
02:37:24,400 --> 02:37:26,560
Speaker 1: come back to me and said you were raped as

2915
02:37:26,600 --> 02:37:30,480
Speaker 1: a grown woman. You've never said that. So stop holding

2916
02:37:30,520 --> 02:37:34,600
Speaker 1: onto that crutch. Stop holding onto that victim. Because this

2917
02:37:34,760 --> 02:37:38,280
Speaker 1: happened to me. I'm mad for days and not come

2918
02:37:38,360 --> 02:37:40,560
Speaker 1: up out of that. And when I went to the psychiatrist,

2919
02:37:40,720 --> 02:37:46,720
Speaker 1: right everything my husband said to me. The psychiatrist said

2920
02:37:46,760 --> 02:37:49,320
Speaker 1: to me, but he said, I needed you to go

2921
02:37:49,360 --> 02:37:51,720
Speaker 1: to somebody that had no dog in the fight because

2922
02:37:51,720 --> 02:37:53,480
Speaker 1: I didn't want you to think I was judging you.

2923
02:37:54,520 --> 02:37:56,480
Speaker 1: I didn't want you to think that because I know

2924
02:37:56,600 --> 02:38:00,240
Speaker 1: the history. I'm pointing my finger. So when I I'll

2925
02:38:00,240 --> 02:38:03,959
Speaker 1: go to that psychiatrist. Doctor Cassandra Juanso, she's incredible. You'll

2926
02:38:04,000 --> 02:38:06,119
Speaker 1: want to know about red bottom shoes. Let me tell

2927
02:38:06,120 --> 02:38:09,080
Speaker 1: you somebody that's gonna get your mind right, Doctor Cassandra Wanso.

2928
02:38:09,160 --> 02:38:11,800
Speaker 1: This woman was incredible, But every time I would go

2929
02:38:11,840 --> 02:38:16,200
Speaker 1: to session, everything she said my husband had already told me,

2930
02:38:17,879 --> 02:38:20,240
Speaker 1: so me and men. I had to come to grips

2931
02:38:20,240 --> 02:38:22,240
Speaker 1: with that. I had to come to grips with being

2932
02:38:22,280 --> 02:38:24,560
Speaker 1: an insecure fat girl. And I had to come to

2933
02:38:24,600 --> 02:38:27,039
Speaker 1: grips with my sister telling me, ain't no man gonna

2934
02:38:27,040 --> 02:38:28,800
Speaker 1: ever really want you because you're fat. I had to

2935
02:38:28,800 --> 02:38:31,960
Speaker 1: come to grips with my father was like, listen, I'm here,

2936
02:38:31,959 --> 02:38:33,600
Speaker 1: but I'm really not. I had to come to grips

2937
02:38:33,600 --> 02:38:36,400
Speaker 1: with those things. So my way of coming to grips

2938
02:38:36,440 --> 02:38:39,800
Speaker 1: with those things was now I'm a boss, I'm independent,

2939
02:38:39,800 --> 02:38:42,440
Speaker 1: and I'm empowered. Don't you know I run this? See

2940
02:38:42,520 --> 02:38:45,840
Speaker 1: I too went to the Oprah Winford University of Empowerment

2941
02:38:46,240 --> 02:38:48,200
Speaker 1: and you don't need a man to make it. I

2942
02:38:48,240 --> 02:38:50,680
Speaker 1: signed up and I was at the top of the

2943
02:38:50,720 --> 02:38:54,000
Speaker 1: class till I realized I was going to be it empty.

2944
02:38:54,480 --> 02:38:57,280
Speaker 1: I was going to bed with nothing but stuff. I

2945
02:38:57,320 --> 02:38:59,400
Speaker 1: did not want to be the poor little rich girl

2946
02:38:59,480 --> 02:39:02,840
Speaker 1: who had everything but nothing at all. Don't that sound familiar?

2947
02:39:03,600 --> 02:39:06,320
Speaker 1: I did not want to be that Shannon. So even

2948
02:39:06,400 --> 02:39:12,000
Speaker 1: for the men, even for the men that I was with, right.

2949
02:39:11,920 --> 02:39:14,520
Speaker 2: You worked with them.

2950
02:39:13,800 --> 02:39:16,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't no Okay, talk to me, Shannon. Not that

2951
02:39:16,879 --> 02:39:18,880
Speaker 1: liquor usual. I wasn't with them.

2952
02:39:19,040 --> 02:39:20,560
Speaker 2: That was just the body for the lonely.

2953
02:39:24,400 --> 02:39:27,320
Speaker 1: Liquor makes sh it sound good moment. Liquor would make

2954
02:39:27,360 --> 02:39:29,200
Speaker 1: you not sound like a whole. It was just a

2955
02:39:29,280 --> 02:39:31,600
Speaker 1: body for the lonely. Let me tell you what my

2956
02:39:31,680 --> 02:39:33,600
Speaker 1: husband told me. Right, because I was at teas, I'm like,

2957
02:39:33,640 --> 02:39:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I was. I was a whole. I

2958
02:39:36,480 --> 02:39:39,560
Speaker 1: was crying. I was because because when you come to

2959
02:39:39,600 --> 02:39:43,360
Speaker 1: grips with it, when you realize how many, when you

2960
02:39:43,640 --> 02:39:45,800
Speaker 1: realize what you've done, and you got to come to

2961
02:39:45,840 --> 02:39:47,360
Speaker 1: grips with it. And now I'm sitting in front of

2962
02:39:47,400 --> 02:39:50,119
Speaker 1: the greatest person I've ever met, and I gotta say,

2963
02:39:50,560 --> 02:39:53,840
Speaker 1: I have been with this many. And my husband looked

2964
02:39:53,840 --> 02:39:56,240
Speaker 1: at me and said, Mama, you ain't no whore. You

2965
02:39:56,400 --> 02:40:03,720
Speaker 1: just had friendly pussy. Didn't he make it right? Pussy?

2966
02:40:04,200 --> 02:40:09,080
Speaker 1: So for you ones out there, friendly pussy, That's what

2967
02:40:09,120 --> 02:40:10,959
Speaker 1: he told me. He made it right.

2968
02:40:11,560 --> 02:40:15,959
Speaker 2: So did you ever have a good relationship with your father?

2969
02:40:17,480 --> 02:40:20,560
Speaker 1: Yes, when I was a little girl little. When I

2970
02:40:20,600 --> 02:40:22,400
Speaker 1: was a little girl, my father could do no wrong.

2971
02:40:23,040 --> 02:40:24,960
Speaker 1: When I was a little girl baby, my father would

2972
02:40:24,959 --> 02:40:26,600
Speaker 1: put me in that car and he would go to

2973
02:40:26,640 --> 02:40:28,959
Speaker 1: the cut Race store and he'd get his liquor and

2974
02:40:29,000 --> 02:40:31,600
Speaker 1: he go over mister Johnny House. Now I'm a little girl, right,

2975
02:40:31,840 --> 02:40:33,640
Speaker 1: He go over mister Johnny House and him and mister

2976
02:40:33,680 --> 02:40:35,440
Speaker 1: Johnny going back, and I could smell a reefer, but

2977
02:40:35,480 --> 02:40:37,720
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was reefer, right, and they smoking,

2978
02:40:37,800 --> 02:40:39,800
Speaker 1: they had their little drink to come back out. I

2979
02:40:39,920 --> 02:40:42,960
Speaker 1: was attached to him. Me and my father start having

2980
02:40:42,959 --> 02:40:44,800
Speaker 1: a problem when what he was saying to me wasn't

2981
02:40:44,800 --> 02:40:48,879
Speaker 1: making sense. And now I'm about thirteen. He was just

2982
02:40:49,280 --> 02:40:52,320
Speaker 1: he was. He was a bullshitter, but he was a

2983
02:40:52,360 --> 02:40:55,120
Speaker 1: good sound and bullshitter. And so as a kids, you'd

2984
02:40:55,120 --> 02:40:58,320
Speaker 1: be like my father know everything. But once I started

2985
02:40:58,320 --> 02:41:01,440
Speaker 1: growing up, I started seeing the treatment that he gave

2986
02:41:01,480 --> 02:41:06,320
Speaker 1: my mother. Never physically abusive, but mentally they abused one another.

2987
02:41:06,400 --> 02:41:09,560
Speaker 1: I won't just put it on. But once I started

2988
02:41:09,680 --> 02:41:13,680
Speaker 1: questioning him on just some of his decisions and choices,

2989
02:41:14,080 --> 02:41:16,560
Speaker 1: I became the bad person. And I went to my

2990
02:41:16,600 --> 02:41:25,840
Speaker 1: grandmother one time, Mini, I talked about her and my father.

2991
02:41:25,959 --> 02:41:28,040
Speaker 1: This was one incident that sent me to my grandmother

2992
02:41:29,200 --> 02:41:32,039
Speaker 1: bent over crying. I was trying to get a Ford

2993
02:41:32,080 --> 02:41:36,680
Speaker 1: Festiva right. It was four gears, okay, it was about

2994
02:41:36,959 --> 02:41:39,560
Speaker 1: two dollars, but I didn't have the two dollars and

2995
02:41:39,600 --> 02:41:43,320
Speaker 1: I needed a co signer. So I asked my father

2996
02:41:43,360 --> 02:41:46,440
Speaker 1: please co sign for me to get this for in festive,

2997
02:41:47,280 --> 02:41:49,760
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna quote him. He said, Nikki, you won't

2998
02:41:49,840 --> 02:41:53,160
Speaker 1: fuck up my credit. And I'm like, well, what have

2999
02:41:53,200 --> 02:41:54,640
Speaker 1: I ever done to make you think I would fuck

3000
02:41:54,680 --> 02:41:56,880
Speaker 1: up your credit? If I pay my rent on time,

3001
02:41:57,200 --> 02:42:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm responsible. I go to work. No, the next week,

3002
02:42:01,879 --> 02:42:04,560
Speaker 1: not only did he co sign for my sister, he

3003
02:42:04,760 --> 02:42:07,560
Speaker 1: just signed for my sister, like he put the car

3004
02:42:07,640 --> 02:42:10,560
Speaker 1: in his name right. I go to my grandmother and

3005
02:42:10,600 --> 02:42:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, Mammy, why would he do that? Like she said, Nikki,

3006
02:42:15,800 --> 02:42:19,760
Speaker 1: every parent knows their weakest link, and every parent knows

3007
02:42:19,800 --> 02:42:22,920
Speaker 1: the one that's gonna be okay. She said, you're gonna

3008
02:42:22,959 --> 02:42:28,000
Speaker 1: be okay. At that point, I wiped my tears and

3009
02:42:28,040 --> 02:42:30,959
Speaker 1: I'm glad he didn't co sign. I'm glad I had

3010
02:42:31,000 --> 02:42:32,920
Speaker 1: to bust my ass to get it. I'm glad I

3011
02:42:32,959 --> 02:42:35,160
Speaker 1: had to figure it out. I'm glad he didn't just

3012
02:42:35,200 --> 02:42:37,720
Speaker 1: come and rescue it. I had to figure it out.

3013
02:42:38,000 --> 02:42:40,240
Speaker 1: So that's why right now, when I sit here and

3014
02:42:40,280 --> 02:42:43,800
Speaker 1: you go through a decade of being black ball or whatever,

3015
02:42:44,040 --> 02:42:47,840
Speaker 1: you're difficult and all. Let it allowed me to keep standing.

3016
02:42:48,600 --> 02:42:51,920
Speaker 1: It allowed me not to It allowed me not to

3017
02:42:52,000 --> 02:42:54,760
Speaker 1: go sit on a couch with Oprah Winfrey and say

3018
02:42:54,800 --> 02:42:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for nothing I've ever done to you. That's

3019
02:42:57,840 --> 02:43:02,240
Speaker 1: what those lessons taught me. Stand in it and stand strong, unapologetically.

3020
02:43:02,440 --> 02:43:04,480
Speaker 2: You speak a lot doing this interview. You spoke a

3021
02:43:04,520 --> 02:43:07,200
Speaker 2: lot about curses than the trauma. How do we break

3022
02:43:07,200 --> 02:43:11,960
Speaker 2: that generational trauma, that curse that is in our community?

3023
02:43:12,640 --> 02:43:15,920
Speaker 1: What we've said from the beginning, and that's truth, it's

3024
02:43:15,959 --> 02:43:19,400
Speaker 1: just the truth. We get so comfortable based off of

3025
02:43:19,520 --> 02:43:23,240
Speaker 1: lies that the lies become the truth. I think if

3026
02:43:23,240 --> 02:43:26,920
Speaker 1: we just started dealing with the truth, address, address it.

3027
02:43:27,520 --> 02:43:30,160
Speaker 1: Even when it doesn't put you in a good light,

3028
02:43:30,879 --> 02:43:33,280
Speaker 1: it eventually does put you in the good light because

3029
02:43:33,280 --> 02:43:36,520
Speaker 1: then people start talking about your honor and your character

3030
02:43:36,840 --> 02:43:39,920
Speaker 1: and your integrity. If I've wronged you, please tell me,

3031
02:43:41,000 --> 02:43:43,000
Speaker 1: Please tell me, and then show me where I've wronged you.

3032
02:43:43,200 --> 02:43:44,880
Speaker 1: If you can say, Monique, this is what you did

3033
02:43:45,000 --> 02:43:48,560
Speaker 1: right here, then I owe you an apology. But if

3034
02:43:48,600 --> 02:43:52,640
Speaker 1: our community dealt in truth, how much further would we be?

3035
02:43:54,280 --> 02:43:56,320
Speaker 1: That's it. That's how I think we make it better.

3036
02:43:56,640 --> 02:43:58,560
Speaker 1: We deal in the absolute truth.

3037
02:43:59,400 --> 02:44:01,360
Speaker 2: But sometimes, you know, it's kind of like what I

3038
02:44:01,400 --> 02:44:03,520
Speaker 2: tell people. I would explaining to someone, I said, just

3039
02:44:03,560 --> 02:44:06,359
Speaker 2: imagine you went to the doctor and Lord forbid, that's happened.

3040
02:44:07,280 --> 02:44:11,200
Speaker 2: You have cancer, but we're not gonna treat it. It's

3041
02:44:11,200 --> 02:44:14,720
Speaker 2: gonna go away. No doctor will tell you that you

3042
02:44:14,840 --> 02:44:17,280
Speaker 2: have something going on. We're not gonna talk about it.

3043
02:44:17,280 --> 02:44:18,160
Speaker 2: It'll just go away.

3044
02:44:18,959 --> 02:44:21,800
Speaker 1: That's what they bank on. That's what they bank on.

3045
02:44:22,160 --> 02:44:24,080
Speaker 1: And too many of our black women have gone to

3046
02:44:24,120 --> 02:44:30,240
Speaker 1: their graves. They've left here in despair. They've left here

3047
02:44:30,280 --> 02:44:34,160
Speaker 1: broken hearted, broken, broke down. And we got a chance

3048
02:44:34,200 --> 02:44:36,880
Speaker 1: to see it Enliven in person with our beautiful sister

3049
02:44:36,920 --> 02:44:37,760
Speaker 1: to Rogi Hinson.

3050
02:44:39,840 --> 02:44:43,760
Speaker 2: What gave you the courage? Your Netflix? They offer you

3051
02:44:43,800 --> 02:44:49,040
Speaker 2: one thing you found out they had gave someone ten

3052
02:44:49,200 --> 02:44:54,440
Speaker 2: times that, no, twenty times, come on, six twenty six

3053
02:44:54,520 --> 02:44:57,160
Speaker 2: times that And you're like no, no, no, no, no, no

3054
02:44:57,160 --> 02:44:59,680
Speaker 2: no no no no no no no, I'm not We're

3055
02:44:59,720 --> 02:45:02,640
Speaker 2: not gonna do that. We're gonna do fair. That's what

3056
02:45:02,640 --> 02:45:05,080
Speaker 2: we do. I mean, you speak about diversity, and you

3057
02:45:05,120 --> 02:45:07,160
Speaker 2: talk about doing the right thing. Okay, this is an

3058
02:45:07,160 --> 02:45:11,040
Speaker 2: opportunity for you to put that instead of being lib service. Okay,

3059
02:45:11,160 --> 02:45:12,600
Speaker 2: pay in the paper. Let's make it right.

3060
02:45:12,760 --> 02:45:16,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know any other way. I didn't know any

3061
02:45:16,360 --> 02:45:19,000
Speaker 1: other way. See when I heard Wanda Syke say I

3062
02:45:19,040 --> 02:45:21,480
Speaker 1: support you, I just want somewhere else. I don't know

3063
02:45:21,520 --> 02:45:25,320
Speaker 1: how to do that, especially when it's wrong. If we

3064
02:45:25,480 --> 02:45:29,280
Speaker 1: keep just going somewhere else, we'll keep getting mistreated. But

3065
02:45:29,400 --> 02:45:32,480
Speaker 1: when you hear Amy Schumer and this was not something

3066
02:45:32,520 --> 02:45:35,320
Speaker 1: I found out, they publicly said it. It was pride.

3067
02:45:35,680 --> 02:45:38,480
Speaker 1: We paid Amy Sherman eleven million. She came back and said,

3068
02:45:38,720 --> 02:45:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm not a legend or icon, but I should get

3069
02:45:41,160 --> 02:45:44,480
Speaker 1: at least two more million, and they gave a thirteen million. Well,

3070
02:45:44,640 --> 02:45:48,240
Speaker 1: when Netflix says to me, you are a legend, you

3071
02:45:48,480 --> 02:45:51,480
Speaker 1: are an icon. When Robbie Prat says that, well, why

3072
02:45:51,520 --> 02:45:54,959
Speaker 1: is my legend in icon different then these people legend

3073
02:45:54,959 --> 02:45:57,720
Speaker 1: in icon? That's all. And when I say we were

3074
02:45:57,760 --> 02:45:59,680
Speaker 1: able to come to the table and we were able

3075
02:45:59,680 --> 02:46:01,879
Speaker 1: to make it makes sense and we were able to

3076
02:46:01,879 --> 02:46:05,240
Speaker 1: do the special, and we appreciated them saying, listen, how

3077
02:46:05,280 --> 02:46:07,640
Speaker 1: can we work this out? Now? You know what happens

3078
02:46:07,640 --> 02:46:13,400
Speaker 1: with that? People were having callings when I said, this

3079
02:46:13,560 --> 02:46:16,320
Speaker 1: is not right. I was donky the other day. Remember

3080
02:46:16,360 --> 02:46:19,760
Speaker 1: that I was donkey of the day. The Breakfast Nubs

3081
02:46:19,800 --> 02:46:23,760
Speaker 1: called me the donkey of the day, That's what they said.

3082
02:46:24,760 --> 02:46:27,400
Speaker 1: And they had a whole calling about how I was

3083
02:46:27,480 --> 02:46:29,879
Speaker 1: donkey of the day. But you didn't do the same

3084
02:46:29,879 --> 02:46:32,680
Speaker 1: thing when you found out was settled. Now all of

3085
02:46:32,720 --> 02:46:34,959
Speaker 1: a sudden, don't nobody know what the settlement is. I mean,

3086
02:46:35,000 --> 02:46:37,640
Speaker 1: well we don't even really. It was really really quick.

3087
02:46:37,680 --> 02:46:39,800
Speaker 1: We just want to throw it away. So with that

3088
02:46:39,879 --> 02:46:43,480
Speaker 1: Netflix special, it was just it was just like, no, guys,

3089
02:46:43,480 --> 02:46:47,240
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta stand up because if not, that

3090
02:46:47,320 --> 02:46:50,480
Speaker 1: little girl coming behind me for real, right, that has

3091
02:46:50,560 --> 02:46:55,280
Speaker 1: that resume. I want to let her know you can fight, baby, right,

3092
02:46:55,360 --> 02:46:58,160
Speaker 1: you just don't have to say, okay, you can stand.

3093
02:46:57,959 --> 02:47:01,720
Speaker 2: Would you be willing to do another Netflix netflik specially? Yeah?

3094
02:47:01,760 --> 02:47:04,320
Speaker 1: I had a great time. I had a great time.

3095
02:47:05,160 --> 02:47:08,599
Speaker 1: I had a great time. Now for me, specials are specials.

3096
02:47:09,080 --> 02:47:12,880
Speaker 1: It's something special, So you know, we'll see right.

3097
02:47:13,800 --> 02:47:17,640
Speaker 2: You know, I'm wanted to ask people that I hear

3098
02:47:18,160 --> 02:47:20,960
Speaker 2: our community called you know, the community called me a

3099
02:47:21,480 --> 02:47:24,920
Speaker 2: and they call you Auntie. Yes, do you wear that

3100
02:47:24,959 --> 02:47:26,360
Speaker 2: with a badge of courage like I do?

3101
02:47:26,400 --> 02:47:30,280
Speaker 1: I wear it? That was such an honor for you

3102
02:47:30,480 --> 02:47:33,480
Speaker 1: babies to put Auntie on my name. Do y'all know

3103
02:47:33,520 --> 02:47:36,120
Speaker 1: how that made me feel? And I'm not the auntie

3104
02:47:36,120 --> 02:47:38,440
Speaker 1: that's gonna tell you the shit that you want to hear.

3105
02:47:38,760 --> 02:47:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm the auntie that's gonna tell you what you need

3106
02:47:40,760 --> 02:47:43,199
Speaker 1: to hear. So for the things that I have said

3107
02:47:43,480 --> 02:47:46,920
Speaker 1: about our community and our babies and our sisters, I

3108
02:47:47,000 --> 02:47:50,320
Speaker 1: cannot back down. Because y'all gave me the title. I

3109
02:47:50,360 --> 02:47:53,119
Speaker 1: didn't ask for it, But when they gave it to me, Shannon,

3110
02:47:53,520 --> 02:47:56,560
Speaker 1: that was the universe saying you now sit in that seat.

3111
02:47:57,000 --> 02:48:00,520
Speaker 1: You are now responsible. That's why I must set and

3112
02:48:00,560 --> 02:48:03,039
Speaker 1: I must speak gladly, and I must say it to

3113
02:48:03,080 --> 02:48:05,680
Speaker 1: the top of my lungs, because God damn, I Fanily

3114
02:48:05,720 --> 02:48:07,880
Speaker 1: lou Hama didn't do it for me. God damn if

3115
02:48:08,160 --> 02:48:10,400
Speaker 1: Kate didn't do it for me, God damn if Mom's

3116
02:48:10,400 --> 02:48:12,320
Speaker 1: maybe didn't do it for me. The ones that came

3117
02:48:12,320 --> 02:48:14,959
Speaker 1: before us and as a woman still alive named Sylvia

3118
02:48:15,040 --> 02:48:18,800
Speaker 1: Treymore Morrison. That woman got paid in a Coca Cola.

3119
02:48:20,320 --> 02:48:22,320
Speaker 1: That woman got paid in a Coca Cola at her

3120
02:48:22,320 --> 02:48:25,080
Speaker 1: next gig and five dollars. She was the first black

3121
02:48:25,120 --> 02:48:27,800
Speaker 1: woman to write for Saturday Night Live. But they have

3122
02:48:27,879 --> 02:48:31,920
Speaker 1: a listed as a production assistant and she's still alive.

3123
02:48:32,320 --> 02:48:35,480
Speaker 1: That's why I speak the way I speak because I

3124
02:48:35,520 --> 02:48:37,800
Speaker 1: will not let them wash her out of history as

3125
02:48:37,840 --> 02:48:39,000
Speaker 1: if she never existed.

3126
02:48:40,280 --> 02:48:45,320
Speaker 2: Wow, daty, what what advice is somebody? If if a

3127
02:48:45,360 --> 02:48:48,680
Speaker 2: group of women were in here, it's like, come on,

3128
02:48:49,200 --> 02:48:52,600
Speaker 2: they talked to us, how this dating? Because this is

3129
02:48:52,879 --> 02:48:54,279
Speaker 2: is moas different now.

3130
02:48:55,160 --> 02:48:58,720
Speaker 1: When it's different. Baby, I'm grateful I'm not fifty six

3131
02:48:58,760 --> 02:49:03,080
Speaker 1: and trying. But you try to say to say I'm

3132
02:49:03,160 --> 02:49:06,480
Speaker 1: looking right at you, I ain't bang it down. You

3133
02:49:06,520 --> 02:49:08,840
Speaker 1: better take your own ass and get somebody to love you.

3134
02:49:09,920 --> 02:49:10,000
Speaker 2: Now.

3135
02:49:10,040 --> 02:49:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm looking right. Tell y'all, what's Shannon knee? I tell you,

3136
02:49:13,720 --> 02:49:15,879
Speaker 1: I tell you what my baby kneed. He need him

3137
02:49:15,959 --> 02:49:18,879
Speaker 1: old fat down broo. Then bake good cakes, make some

3138
02:49:18,959 --> 02:49:21,280
Speaker 1: smother turkey wings. Who gonna rub his feet at the

3139
02:49:21,400 --> 02:49:24,360
Speaker 1: night time? Okay? And gonna have a sip of his

3140
02:49:24,440 --> 02:49:26,840
Speaker 1: cognac to make him feel better by himself when they

3141
02:49:26,879 --> 02:49:28,840
Speaker 1: come home at night. That's what Shannon need. You don't

3142
02:49:28,840 --> 02:49:30,959
Speaker 1: need no twenty six year old girl. You don't need

3143
02:49:31,000 --> 02:49:33,720
Speaker 1: no thirty six year old girl. This is your auntie

3144
02:49:33,720 --> 02:49:35,360
Speaker 1: talking to you. Take your own ass and get your

3145
02:49:35,440 --> 02:49:38,360
Speaker 1: old bitch out there that can love your old You're

3146
02:49:38,400 --> 02:49:40,800
Speaker 1: trying to hang out with these young bitches and you

3147
02:49:40,920 --> 02:49:43,240
Speaker 1: can't do it. Saying it, you just can't do it.

3148
02:49:43,760 --> 02:49:45,520
Speaker 1: When they want you to go for the fourth round,

3149
02:49:45,560 --> 02:49:47,480
Speaker 1: you're looking at her like, bitch, listen, I need you.

3150
02:49:47,560 --> 02:49:49,520
Speaker 1: You want some money to go to stop us because

3151
02:49:49,560 --> 02:49:51,400
Speaker 1: I can't go my further. But if you get your

3152
02:49:51,440 --> 02:49:53,200
Speaker 1: wholder girl, when you get to that fourth roun, she's

3153
02:49:53,200 --> 02:49:56,320
Speaker 1: gonna say, hold on, hold on, let me go get

3154
02:49:56,320 --> 02:49:59,680
Speaker 1: you some eggs and cheese and some toast with apple butter,

3155
02:49:59,720 --> 02:50:02,080
Speaker 1: because I gonna get your energy back up. I'm talking

3156
02:50:02,120 --> 02:50:04,920
Speaker 1: right to you. Ship. So he thought I was gonna

3157
02:50:04,959 --> 02:50:08,360
Speaker 1: be scared, because yes, I'm talking. I know old gal,

3158
02:50:08,480 --> 02:50:10,840
Speaker 1: she'd be good to you. Her name is Eldora. Now

3159
02:50:10,840 --> 02:50:14,000
Speaker 1: when you know somebody named el door old school, Now,

3160
02:50:14,040 --> 02:50:17,640
Speaker 1: Miss Elladora told me to tell you. She said, I

3161
02:50:17,640 --> 02:50:21,680
Speaker 1: think he like red velvet. I say, miss Elladora, if

3162
02:50:21,680 --> 02:50:23,240
Speaker 1: you do like her, she said, you let him know.

3163
02:50:23,280 --> 02:50:26,280
Speaker 1: I got something fun. You don't have no teeth. Come on,

3164
02:50:26,320 --> 02:50:31,120
Speaker 1: pick your glass up and the young girls will bite you.

3165
02:50:31,160 --> 02:50:35,440
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, I got guess. I gotta come on home.

3166
02:50:35,680 --> 02:50:38,120
Speaker 1: Come on home, saying it. And y'all stop putting lines

3167
02:50:38,120 --> 02:50:40,040
Speaker 1: out about my brother, because I was in my feelings

3168
02:50:40,040 --> 02:50:42,400
Speaker 1: when y'all said he didn't date black women. Y'all stop

3169
02:50:42,520 --> 02:50:45,040
Speaker 1: that ship. You're stopping that he might throw a white

3170
02:50:45,080 --> 02:50:50,000
Speaker 1: women there every now and and it's okay, It's okay

3171
02:50:50,280 --> 02:50:54,600
Speaker 1: because sometimes there you we ain't into everything. We don't

3172
02:50:54,600 --> 02:50:58,000
Speaker 1: do everything. So sometimes Uncle Shay sheh't need a spice

3173
02:50:58,040 --> 02:51:02,360
Speaker 1: of life across the street. But he always gonna come back,

3174
02:51:02,480 --> 02:51:04,640
Speaker 1: That's all we said. And you open Tyler, Come on home,

3175
02:51:05,520 --> 02:51:08,680
Speaker 1: Come on home, Come on home, Come on home.

3176
02:51:08,920 --> 02:51:11,240
Speaker 2: Seerra says, a lot of women talk about Cererl's prayer,

3177
02:51:11,320 --> 02:51:13,120
Speaker 2: but when the God says a good man, they don't

3178
02:51:13,120 --> 02:51:14,720
Speaker 2: want them. Is that true?

3179
02:51:15,560 --> 02:51:17,320
Speaker 1: I cannot speak for them. I can only speak for

3180
02:51:17,400 --> 02:51:19,320
Speaker 1: me because when the universe sent mine to.

3181
02:51:19,320 --> 02:51:21,519
Speaker 2: Me, baby, you was ready.

3182
02:51:21,280 --> 02:51:24,720
Speaker 1: And he sent that man to me. Even this morning,

3183
02:51:25,120 --> 02:51:28,040
Speaker 1: I thank the universe for that man. Right there, before

3184
02:51:28,080 --> 02:51:30,320
Speaker 1: I came on air with you, I was talking to him.

3185
02:51:30,440 --> 02:51:30,680
Speaker 2: I know.

3186
02:51:30,840 --> 02:51:33,560
Speaker 1: He said, Mama, you heard me talking? Yes, he Hey, Daddy,

3187
02:51:33,840 --> 02:51:38,400
Speaker 1: yeah I did. Because we've not been trained. We've not

3188
02:51:38,520 --> 02:51:41,959
Speaker 1: been conditioned to understand you. We've been trained to fight

3189
02:51:42,000 --> 02:51:45,000
Speaker 1: against you. We've been trained to go against you. We've

3190
02:51:45,040 --> 02:51:48,879
Speaker 1: watched our mamas, our grandmamas, our aunties speak ill of

3191
02:51:48,959 --> 02:51:51,800
Speaker 1: a black man. So now when a black man comes,

3192
02:51:51,800 --> 02:51:55,000
Speaker 1: any good, you waiting for the bad because grandmama told

3193
02:51:55,040 --> 02:51:57,640
Speaker 1: you black men one shit. Mama told you black oneman, shit,

3194
02:51:57,840 --> 02:51:59,800
Speaker 1: your auntie said black man and shit. So all you

3195
02:51:59,840 --> 02:52:01,760
Speaker 1: have even your mind is black man ain't shitting. So

3196
02:52:01,760 --> 02:52:04,440
Speaker 1: when you get that beautiful black man, he's now got

3197
02:52:04,440 --> 02:52:07,600
Speaker 1: to say to you, erase everything they told you because

3198
02:52:07,600 --> 02:52:08,039
Speaker 1: I'm here.

3199
02:52:08,120 --> 02:52:10,480
Speaker 2: Or then you treat it like that and then he goes,

3200
02:52:10,520 --> 02:52:11,200
Speaker 2: and then you talk about it.

3201
02:52:11,280 --> 02:52:14,800
Speaker 1: Now you're mad because he didn't want you, the white girl. Shannon. Now,

3202
02:52:14,840 --> 02:52:19,400
Speaker 1: y'all start treating Shanning good. Okay, start treating them good. Now, Shanon,

3203
02:52:19,440 --> 02:52:20,400
Speaker 1: I got to catch my plane.

3204
02:52:20,480 --> 02:52:21,320
Speaker 2: Okay, this is last night.

3205
02:52:21,360 --> 02:52:22,920
Speaker 1: Unless you want to send me back on your jet.

3206
02:52:23,240 --> 02:52:25,120
Speaker 2: I wish I had one. I wish I had one,

3207
02:52:25,160 --> 02:52:26,160
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna get you out here on this.

3208
02:52:26,320 --> 02:52:27,400
Speaker 1: See what y'all did you.

3209
02:52:27,360 --> 02:52:29,959
Speaker 2: Heard what Shaq saying, Shack saying, say the ass Shaq?

3210
02:52:30,320 --> 02:52:33,680
Speaker 2: Should a man open up to a woman? Shaq said, No,

3211
02:52:34,080 --> 02:52:36,320
Speaker 2: he says, because if you do, they're gonna use it

3212
02:52:36,360 --> 02:52:38,640
Speaker 2: against you. He said, because if I break, if I'm

3213
02:52:38,680 --> 02:52:40,920
Speaker 2: crying about something, they gonna say the first time they

3214
02:52:40,959 --> 02:52:42,640
Speaker 2: get mad, they're gonna say, see you crying cause your

3215
02:52:42,720 --> 02:52:44,480
Speaker 2: daddy said what he said?

3216
02:52:44,520 --> 02:52:46,039
Speaker 1: How do you take advice from a man who has

3217
02:52:46,080 --> 02:52:49,800
Speaker 1: no woman? And I love Shaq, but how do you

3218
02:52:49,800 --> 02:52:52,640
Speaker 1: take advice from my brother that has no one?

3219
02:52:52,879 --> 02:52:53,240
Speaker 2: Okay?

3220
02:52:54,080 --> 02:52:57,840
Speaker 1: If you have that person in your life and you say, listen,

3221
02:52:57,879 --> 02:53:00,879
Speaker 1: I'm dealing, I'm going through. Who do you talk to

3222
02:53:00,959 --> 02:53:03,640
Speaker 1: at nighttime and you'll pillow talk? Who else do you

3223
02:53:03,680 --> 02:53:06,040
Speaker 1: share your life with? Who are you sharing with your

3224
02:53:06,080 --> 02:53:08,560
Speaker 1: life with? Shaq? Do you tell another man about your

3225
02:53:08,600 --> 02:53:10,760
Speaker 1: situation and does he make you feel better?

3226
02:53:10,959 --> 02:53:11,039
Speaker 2: Like?

3227
02:53:11,120 --> 02:53:13,320
Speaker 1: Who do you share your life with?

3228
02:53:13,400 --> 02:53:13,480
Speaker 2: So?

3229
02:53:13,560 --> 02:53:15,760
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that at all, And I love

3230
02:53:15,840 --> 02:53:18,160
Speaker 1: my brother, but I don't agree with that. I think

3231
02:53:18,160 --> 02:53:21,240
Speaker 1: that makes the vision because if I gotta call my

3232
02:53:21,360 --> 02:53:25,000
Speaker 1: girl and I talk to my husband. When I heard

3233
02:53:25,040 --> 02:53:27,800
Speaker 1: Oprah say, and these are her words, not mine, she said,

3234
02:53:27,840 --> 02:53:30,080
Speaker 1: when I be stressed out and I'd be going through it,

3235
02:53:30,120 --> 02:53:32,480
Speaker 1: after the show, I would come home and Gail could

3236
02:53:32,520 --> 02:53:36,480
Speaker 1: calm me down and put me to sleep. What's you say?

3237
02:53:36,680 --> 02:53:37,440
Speaker 2: What's that much?

3238
02:53:37,720 --> 02:53:38,760
Speaker 1: Okay? Then you said it.

3239
02:53:41,760 --> 02:53:43,320
Speaker 2: Here. I would get Oprah on the show.

3240
02:53:43,400 --> 02:53:46,520
Speaker 1: But those are her words. So I believe that partnership

3241
02:53:46,560 --> 02:53:49,160
Speaker 1: is partnership all the way around. When I leave this earth,

3242
02:53:49,200 --> 02:53:51,200
Speaker 1: there is nothing my husband will not know about me,

3243
02:53:51,520 --> 02:53:52,600
Speaker 1: and the other way around.

3244
02:53:52,959 --> 02:53:55,040
Speaker 2: Did you know after your first two marriages you get

3245
02:53:55,040 --> 02:53:55,560
Speaker 2: married again.

3246
02:53:55,680 --> 02:53:58,440
Speaker 1: Yes, because my first two marriages were just marriages. Of

3247
02:53:59,080 --> 02:54:01,720
Speaker 1: My first marriage was you just couldn't have the milk

3248
02:54:01,720 --> 02:54:04,080
Speaker 1: without buying the cow. That was the first marriage. And

3249
02:54:04,120 --> 02:54:07,760
Speaker 1: we were boxes every We were Friday night fights. Okay, okay,

3250
02:54:08,000 --> 02:54:11,000
Speaker 1: we were It wasn't domestic bolence. We was friday night fights. Okay.

3251
02:54:11,240 --> 02:54:14,480
Speaker 1: I took a l sometime, but sometime I didn't. Okay, okay,

3252
02:54:14,680 --> 02:54:19,360
Speaker 1: okay okat. The second one was I couldn't afford to

3253
02:54:19,360 --> 02:54:21,760
Speaker 1: pay my rent and I didn't want to have a boyfriend.

3254
02:54:21,800 --> 02:54:21,920
Speaker 4: Right.

3255
02:54:22,320 --> 02:54:23,600
Speaker 1: So that's why I said, this is the first time

3256
02:54:23,600 --> 02:54:24,400
Speaker 1: I've really been married.

3257
02:54:25,160 --> 02:54:27,040
Speaker 2: Tell me the story that you wanted to share that

3258
02:54:27,080 --> 02:54:29,160
Speaker 2: nobody else knows that you was going to share with us.

3259
02:54:30,760 --> 02:54:33,000
Speaker 1: You all ready for this, I'm ready for it. I

3260
02:54:33,040 --> 02:54:36,640
Speaker 1: want you to move in. That man that was sitting

3261
02:54:36,680 --> 02:54:39,720
Speaker 1: right here on this couch, his name is Kat Williams. Yes,

3262
02:54:40,440 --> 02:54:45,640
Speaker 1: Cat Williams and I have a relationship with fraternal twins.

3263
02:54:51,240 --> 02:54:51,680
Speaker 1: That's all.

3264
02:54:51,840 --> 02:54:52,120
Speaker 2: That's it.

3265
02:54:53,840 --> 02:54:58,400
Speaker 1: That said. That is my twin, my spiritual fraternal non

3266
02:54:58,480 --> 02:55:02,680
Speaker 1: by logic brother. We're a twins, baby, Yes we are.

3267
02:55:02,920 --> 02:55:05,360
Speaker 1: That was it, and that was all. Don't nobody know

3268
02:55:05,400 --> 02:55:07,120
Speaker 1: that but you, Cat Williams don't even know that s it.

3269
02:55:07,280 --> 02:55:08,400
Speaker 1: That's what makes it so beautiful.

3270
02:55:08,480 --> 02:55:11,760
Speaker 2: So Cat, I'm gonna call him. I'm gonna call him

3271
02:55:11,760 --> 02:55:14,119
Speaker 2: and say, hey, I met your sister for the bed person.

3272
02:55:14,120 --> 02:55:16,920
Speaker 1: I need you to tell him.

3273
02:55:17,280 --> 02:55:19,240
Speaker 2: Do you want to promote anything? You got anything you

3274
02:55:19,240 --> 02:55:19,880
Speaker 2: want to promote that?

3275
02:55:24,640 --> 02:55:30,920
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say. Just keep watching, Just keep watching.

3276
02:55:30,959 --> 02:55:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm promoting life. Just keep watching. And I love y'all

3277
02:55:35,320 --> 02:55:36,280
Speaker 1: for real, my babies.

3278
02:55:37,840 --> 02:55:42,160
Speaker 2: Thank you for watching. Monique, ladies and gentlemen, thank you

3279
02:55:42,200 --> 02:55:43,840
Speaker 2: so much. I really appreciate you.

3280
02:55:44,520 --> 02:55:49,199
Speaker 3: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifics, Rustle, bad Price,

3281
02:55:49,879 --> 02:55:51,240
Speaker 3: wanna slice, got.

3282
02:55:52,560 --> 02:55:55,400
Speaker 1: All my life? I'll be grinding all my life, all

3283
02:55:55,400 --> 02:55:59,840
Speaker 1: my life, grinding all my life, sacri fights, Crustle, Bad Price.

3284
02:56:00,560 --> 02:56:03,800
Speaker 3: One slide the brown dice to swap all my life.

3285
02:56:03,879 --> 02:56:07,599
Speaker 3: I'll be running all my life.

3286
02:56:07,400 --> 02:56:09,640
Speaker 4: H m hm