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Speaker 2: From sa Kuon Barkley to Charles Barkley. No relation that
Speaker 2: I know of. Turn your sports inside the NBA and
Speaker 2: you're not related to Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 3: Are you.
Speaker 4: Claiming? And I don't care if we are or not.
Speaker 4: I don't think we are. But I'm claiming them. I'm claiming. Hey,
Speaker 4: I've been claiming them all year. He's my cousin. I
Speaker 4: don't care what anybody says.
Speaker 3: Did you play football in high school?
Speaker 5: I played one day.
Speaker 3: What happened?
Speaker 5: I realized they were really.
Speaker 4: Hitting people out there, you know, Dad, That's the reason
Speaker 4: football is my favorite sport. It takes tremendous courage to
Speaker 4: go out there. You know, football and boxing and my
Speaker 4: two favorite sports. I played football for one day. I
Speaker 4: realized they were nuts. They're tougher than me and I quit.
Speaker 3: And you're not much of a boxer either.
Speaker 5: I can fight a little bit. I can hold my own.
Speaker 4: The good thing about fighting boxing is different boxing boxing.
Speaker 4: Y'all got gloves on, trying to hit each other, fighting
Speaker 4: whatever you can get your hands on to hit somebody,
Speaker 4: That's what goes.
Speaker 5: That's a big difference, Dan.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, also when you fought in the NBA, somebody was
Speaker 2: usually gonna grab you, so it didn't escalate too much further.
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, if you're out there fight any way,
Speaker 5: you're punk.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: Kevin McHale, the best player I ever played against, always.
Speaker 4: Said, he said the thing I know, He says, I
Speaker 4: never worried about the pistols. He says, they're out there
Speaker 4: beating up people. At some point, you got to play basketball,
Speaker 4: and only two of the guys can play, Isaiah Thomas
Speaker 4: and Joe Dumars, and we were gonna win eventually, he said.
Speaker 4: The rest of those guys out there just beating up people,
Speaker 4: he said, but she s Charles. At some point we
Speaker 4: realized they had to play basketball, and the other two
Speaker 4: guys they had we were worried about Isaiah and Joe Thomas,
Speaker 4: Joejoe Dumars, My bad.
Speaker 3: All right, who are you betting on Super Bowl Sunday?
Speaker 4: My Philadelphia Eagles? Then I'm a big Eagles fan. We're
Speaker 4: putting the end of this rain of terror in Kansas City.
Speaker 4: You know what's really crazy. I love Pat Mahons and
Speaker 4: Travis Kelsey, but I bet against them every game in
Speaker 4: the last two years because I actually thought they were.
Speaker 5: Going to lose.
Speaker 4: The only game I actually won in the last two
Speaker 4: years is when for some reason and Reed ran out
Speaker 4: of the end zone and I covered with the safety
Speaker 4: by half a point.
Speaker 5: I have lost.
Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's six straight games. I
Speaker 4: bet against the Chiefs. I thought they would lose. You know,
Speaker 4: two years ago the law I times they're gonna lose
Speaker 4: at Buffalo. Then I thought they would lose to the Ravens.
Speaker 4: Then I had San Francisco in the Super Bowl. I
Speaker 4: didn't think they were going to lose to the Texas,
Speaker 4: but I thought the Texans would cover. Then I had
Speaker 4: the Bills. I'm rooting for the Bills and they didn't.
Speaker 4: But hey, I haven't learned my lesson I'm taking and
Speaker 4: it's just ironic. I'm really an Eagle fan. But the
Speaker 4: rain of terror is over Sunday night.
Speaker 3: Why don't you just give your money to charity and
Speaker 3: not bet on the game.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be at a casino. Why would I go
Speaker 4: to a casino and not bet on the game.
Speaker 3: I know, but you tend to lose a lot.
Speaker 7: I got a lot, and this doesn't even incorporate your
Speaker 7: new deal that you're gonna have with your TV partner,
Speaker 7: your next one.
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, I'm trying to figure out all that stuff out, Dan.
Speaker 4: It's been very fascinated behind the scenes. There's been a
Speaker 4: lot of shit canay going on behind the scenes that
Speaker 4: I haven't been happy with, and.
Speaker 5: I'm hoping everything works out.
Speaker 4: But I'm it's been fascinating dealing with all the tntbs
Speaker 4: this entire time.
Speaker 3: Okay, why haven't you reached out to me privately?
Speaker 4: Well, Dan, I'm just trying to figure out. Like I say,
Speaker 4: I don't have to make a decision asap.
Speaker 3: But I can help you.
Speaker 2: I've been at a couple of places that you're probably
Speaker 2: negotiating with. If you had questions, I would give you
Speaker 2: honest answers. I've done that for other athletes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my other Listen, it was really fascinating people talking
Speaker 4: about money and all this other stuff. I dude, I
Speaker 4: ain't worried about no money. My decision was gonna come
Speaker 4: down strictly to one thing.
Speaker 5: My workload.
Speaker 4: I've been to TNT for twenty five years. Then I'm
Speaker 4: really good at working one day a week. I am
Speaker 4: great at it. You know, so you know, I was like, yo, man,
Speaker 4: I'm not going work. I'm gonna be older. I'll be
Speaker 4: six to two in a couple of weeks. I'm not
Speaker 4: going to work more as I get older. That was
Speaker 4: my only concern. And NBC was great, you know, Mark
Speaker 4: Lass and Greg Hughes were great to me, but I
Speaker 4: turned their offer down because they had too much stuff
Speaker 4: in there for me to do. And then I counseled
Speaker 4: all the stuff, all the other means with Amazon. They
Speaker 4: were greeted Amazon, but after meeting with ESPN, they made
Speaker 4: me feel better. But I just want to get between
Speaker 4: TNT and ESPN. I said, I just want to figure
Speaker 4: out which my work load. They haven't given me in
Speaker 4: a definitive answer, because I don't think they know their
Speaker 4: definitive answer, to be honest with you.
Speaker 3: So you could stay at TNT.
Speaker 5: I could.
Speaker 4: I could always have stayed at TNT, but I put
Speaker 4: in my contract I could get out of there if
Speaker 4: they lost the NBA. You know, it's really funny the
Speaker 4: TNT people, they're stupid. They tried to say to me
Speaker 4: that I was. They wrote a c said assist letter
Speaker 4: to Amazon and NBC, and it really pissed me off
Speaker 4: because wait a minute, but they're trying to say that
Speaker 4: they traded my show to ESPN and that's the same
Speaker 4: as them keeping it. I'm like, I don't think that's
Speaker 4: the way it works. That's what'll take what tru that
Speaker 4: we were having some heated discussions behind scenes down in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: I was like, wait a minute, Yeah, they sent a
Speaker 4: c cent assist letter to NBC and Amazon saying I
Speaker 4: wasn't available. I said, that's not the way my contract reads.
Speaker 4: Y'all lost to NBA. If I wanted to leave, I
Speaker 4: could leave. That was the ball of contention. I says,
Speaker 4: They're like, no, you on the contract. I said, well,
Speaker 4: I'll take my chances in court. And I felt really
Speaker 4: good about my chances in court because regardless of what
Speaker 4: they say, Dan, them trading us to esp and ain't
Speaker 4: the same as us being on the contract to T
Speaker 4: and t's.
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley Hall of Famer Turner Sports for the moment
Speaker 2: inside the NBA analyst who won the Luca ad trade.
Speaker 2: Right now, let's look at it as of today.
Speaker 4: Oh, the Dallas Mavericks their contender right away.
Speaker 5: They got a really good team.
Speaker 4: People forgetting about MaTx Christian Mats Christy gonna help the MAVs.
Speaker 5: But listen, ad was Ad.
Speaker 4: You know, he's played great the last couple of years,
Speaker 4: and if he plays like he's played, the guy was
Speaker 4: just coming off a forty twenty game and if he
Speaker 4: plays like that.
Speaker 5: Because what's interesting about the NBA, Dan, I'm not sure
Speaker 5: who the favorite is right now.
Speaker 4: We can say, okay, see, they're the favorite in the West,
Speaker 4: but the MAVs are the second best team in the
Speaker 4: West right this day, and I'm not sure what's going
Speaker 4: on with the Celtics. So man, we can talk all
Speaker 4: the noise we want to. The championship is up for
Speaker 4: grabs right now. The Celtics have not looked good all year.
Speaker 5: In my opinion. But in the West, OKC is the
Speaker 5: prohibit the favorite.
Speaker 4: But man, they've never been in the fire before day,
Speaker 4: and that's the favorite going in so that's gonna be
Speaker 4: a shock to their system with everybody gunning for him.
Speaker 4: But right now, the MAVs won. For the next two
Speaker 4: or three years, the MAVs won.
Speaker 2: Trade Now that Lebron has Luca, Lebron more likely to
Speaker 2: stay an extra year or two or maybe leave or retire.
Speaker 4: You know, That's a fascinating question, like is he what
Speaker 4: is he hanging around for? I personally think if I
Speaker 4: was him, the Lakers are not contenders right now. I
Speaker 4: would wave my note, trade I do with Tom Brady
Speaker 4: and go put myself in a perfect situation where I
Speaker 4: can have two more bites of the apple. And I
Speaker 4: don't know the perfect situation. But he's he's holding all
Speaker 4: the cards. He can go to the lager and say, hey,
Speaker 4: let's have our cake and eat it too. I can
Speaker 4: get you all a couple of players, maybe a couple
Speaker 4: of draft picks. Let's pick out a perfect scenario. That's
Speaker 4: what Tom Brady did, took the perfect situation in Tampa.
Speaker 4: If I'm Lebron, I can say we're not gonna win
Speaker 4: the championship this year or next year. Let's trade to
Speaker 4: a perfect scenario. But they can, like I say, the
Speaker 4: only problem they got right now they got to make
Speaker 4: decisions by Thursday at four o'clock. But you know that's
Speaker 4: a lot of time in NBA years. That's what I
Speaker 4: was I would do if I was him.
Speaker 2: When you hear the criticism or critiques of Luca's you know,
Speaker 2: physical shape, how do you react to them?
Speaker 4: Well, Dan, if everybody's saying it, it's probably fair. You know,
Speaker 4: everybody's been I find it fascinating that all of us
Speaker 4: have been talking about Luca's conditioning for three years now,
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, it's an insult, like I don't
Speaker 4: think people were hiding it. I think everybody's heard the
Speaker 4: same criticism for three years now. All of a sudden,
Speaker 4: I saw its dead like they're saying these things about
Speaker 4: my son. I'm like, well, mister Dunchek and and I
Speaker 4: watched TV. I got a TV. They've been saying the
Speaker 4: same thing for three years. They're not saying it like
Speaker 4: out of the blue. But I will say this, he's
Speaker 4: a great, great player. But then the Dallas Maverige know
Speaker 4: him better than anybody. I know he's a great player
Speaker 4: from a distance. But the Dallas Mavericks had to make
Speaker 4: a decision do we get this guy five years, three
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty million dollars.
Speaker 5: I give them credit. They made a decision. It might
Speaker 5: come back to buye them in the ass, but that's
Speaker 5: your job.
Speaker 6: Hey.
Speaker 4: Listen, a year ago, we were all pat Nko on
Speaker 4: the back because he went out and got GAFFERD PJ
Speaker 4: and all these other guys and got the Mayles to
Speaker 4: the finals. Now everybody act like it was only Luca
Speaker 4: and Kyrie that got them to the finals. No, Nico
Speaker 4: did a tremendous job last year. He made like three
Speaker 4: or four trades that got the Mayos to the finals.
Speaker 4: If they just had to had Luca and Kyrie, they
Speaker 4: wouldn't have made it to the finals last year. But
Speaker 4: they picked up three pieces doing the doing the trade
Speaker 4: deadline and made them a contender to get to the finals.
Speaker 4: But like I say, hey, that's the job man Nico,
Speaker 4: and I gave him credit. He went out there and
Speaker 4: answered all the questions. He didn't run, he didn't hide.
Speaker 4: A lot of times when these general managers make bad trades,
Speaker 4: they put out statement and things like that. I give
Speaker 4: Nico credit. He sit down, he took all the questions. Now,
Speaker 4: I will say this, this is a job trade. This
Speaker 4: is this is a job trade. If the trade doesn't work,
Speaker 4: you're gonna lose your job. There's shit, there's there's a
Speaker 4: there's very there's very few jobs in sports as a
Speaker 4: general manager or president whoever running things that I call
Speaker 4: them trade jobs. If the trade doesn't work, you're gonna
Speaker 4: lose your job playing the simple and it should be
Speaker 4: like that because I've been saying for years I think
Speaker 4: the easiest job and the best job in the NBA
Speaker 4: is running the NBA team because you get to blame
Speaker 4: three coaches before people realize you're the problem. Because think
Speaker 4: about that, Dan, very few coaches, maybe Popovich, there's all
Speaker 4: how many coaches actually have power to make this great.
Speaker 4: Papavich is probably the last guy who gets complete power
Speaker 4: of an NBA team. But the rest of these general
Speaker 4: manager they get to fire like they get to make
Speaker 4: ten bad deals and fire three coaches, and then people says, well,
Speaker 4: what's the consistent thing here the general manager? So hey,
Speaker 4: but that goes with the job.
Speaker 6: Brother.
Speaker 3: Would you want Jimmy Butler as a teammate.
Speaker 4: I would want Jimmy Butler as a teammate. I think
Speaker 4: it's a hell of a teammate. But I think Jimmy
Speaker 4: is misguided because you know, Dan, I've said this before.
Speaker 4: I'm not just saying for some reason, these players think you.
Speaker 4: They old you a lifetime contract. Dude, we paid you
Speaker 4: fifty million dollars last year, this year, and next year,
Speaker 4: and you're gonna be older and you're starting and you're
Speaker 4: their decline anyway, and I see foods on TV time.
Speaker 4: But Jimmy Butler's right, Jimmy Butler is one hundred percent wrong.
Speaker 4: They don't you take I don't want to still be
Speaker 4: playing for the sixers of the Suns. They like you
Speaker 4: get old and they're not gonna pay you. They paid
Speaker 4: you very Listen. I love Klay Thompson. I love Klay Thompson.
Speaker 4: He won fourth championship with the Warriors. The Warriors made
Speaker 4: a business decision, Clay, you're getting older, you had an achilles,
Speaker 4: you had an acl We're not going to pay you.
Speaker 5: I have no problem. That's business man, it's nothing personal.
Speaker 3: Where are you gonna be watching the Super Bowl?
Speaker 5: Oh Dan?
Speaker 4: I take the same twelve guys to Vegas for twenty
Speaker 4: this'll be our twenty eighth straight year. We play golf
Speaker 4: all day Saturday, we get up Sunday morning, play golf.
Speaker 4: Then we go to the casino with ten thousand people,
Speaker 4: basically in washing the Super Bowl in Vegas.
Speaker 5: I've done it.
Speaker 4: I take the same twelve or fifteen guys every year.
Speaker 4: It's like it's on the highlights of my year.
Speaker 3: But do you pick up the tab for these freeloaders.
Speaker 4: Well, I got to see how the gambling goes, because
Speaker 4: you know how the Vegas works. You get everything free
Speaker 4: until you total up at the end of the weekend. Hey,
Speaker 4: all I have to do is provide the private jet,
Speaker 4: which that comes with the casino, and all the rooms
Speaker 4: are free, all the drinks and stuff are free until
Speaker 4: Monday morning when you're checking out. It depends on how
Speaker 4: the table's been.
Speaker 2: To you, so you're really paying for the private jet
Speaker 2: with you lose no previous trip. That's why they send
Speaker 2: the private jet because of previous trips.
Speaker 3: When you've lost, you don't lose all.
Speaker 5: The time, Dan, Sometimes you win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they send the private jet because they know your
Speaker 2: probably they.
Speaker 5: Send the private jet. They send the private jet to get.
Speaker 3: You there because they know what happens when you get there.
Speaker 4: Then you win, sometimes you can't. You know, first of all,
Speaker 4: I hate when people say, hey, you go. One thing
Speaker 4: I know about gambling. You're gonna win. Sometimes you're gonna lose.
Speaker 4: Sometimes that's what gambling is. It's not like I know
Speaker 4: they sent a private jet for a reason. Their job
Speaker 4: is to get me there. But you know, when I win,
Speaker 4: the jet is free and all my friends.
Speaker 6: We have a great weekend.
Speaker 5: All the meals are free.
Speaker 4: But when I lose, like I've had, I've had my
Speaker 4: friends joke with me like they're like, man, those steaks
Speaker 4: and those rooms and they wasn't worth a million dollars.
Speaker 4: But hey sometimes they sometimes. Hey, but that's the deal Dan,
Speaker 4: when you go to the Yeah, hey, hey, I've been
Speaker 4: there twenty eight straight years after this year, so I'm
Speaker 4: still I'm all.
Speaker 3: Right, have fun, have fun this weekend. Good to talk
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 5: All right, brother, go birds.
Speaker 3: That's Charles Barkley.
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Speaker 3: That's Covino and Rich. He's the head coach of the
Speaker 3: Los Angeles Chargers.
Speaker 2: He's Jim Harbaugh back on the program, Coach, Thanks for
Speaker 2: joining us. When's the last time you thought about your
Speaker 2: Super Bowl here in New Orleans?
Speaker 9: Yesterday? Yesterday I was I was talking to my brother
Speaker 9: and we were reliving some of those some of the
Speaker 9: that that week leading up to it and in the
Speaker 9: game and the power outage and you know, just some
Speaker 9: of the different some of the different plays.
Speaker 6: But hey, a lot, I think about it a lot
Speaker 6: almost you know, it comes.
Speaker 3: Up, where are you going to watch the Super Bowl?
Speaker 9: I'll be watching it at home, be watching it at
Speaker 9: home with the uh, with the family and the kids.
Speaker 6: It's you know, it's I wish I was there, you know.
Speaker 6: That's the thing. I wish I was there with you.
Speaker 9: I wish we were getting ready having a Wednesday practice
Speaker 9: before the uh before the game.
Speaker 5: And uh.
Speaker 6: But it's still still just a great respect that that
Speaker 6: I have for the.
Speaker 9: For the for the game, for the for the NFL,
Speaker 9: for the the two teams that have have paddled their
Speaker 9: way and overcome the obstacles to be there. So uh
Speaker 9: and uh, so I'll be watching for sure.
Speaker 3: Could you find yourself rooting for the Kansas City Chiefs?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 9: You know what I do is, uh, I find myself
Speaker 9: really at all times.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, the Ravens, I'll root for the
Speaker 6: I'll root for the Ravens.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 9: If we're you know, we're not playing them, Uh, now
Speaker 9: we're playing them, then yeah, there's there's uh, there's no
Speaker 9: rooting for the Ravens. But even if even if it
Speaker 9: wasn't gonna help us. You know, I would still be
Speaker 9: rooting for the Ravens. But every other game, really College
Speaker 9: of Pro, I mean, uh, in Michigan, ILL root for Michigan,
Speaker 9: but uh, you know every other one, I just I
Speaker 9: find myself rooting for the team that's playing the hardest
Speaker 9: as the game is going on. That's uh uh pretty
Speaker 9: much how I look at a football game and and
Speaker 9: uh and root for a particular team.
Speaker 2: What would Mahomes have to accomplish to supersede Tom Brady
Speaker 2: in your opinion?
Speaker 9: Well, I mean every time you start making those kinds
Speaker 9: of comparisons, uh, you know, uh for somebody who they're
Speaker 9: both great. I mean they're both great. There's there's there's
Speaker 9: no question that. Uh. But Patrick Mahomes has done with
Speaker 9: what Andy Reid has done with that team with Spags
Speaker 9: has done with that team.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 9: And and it's you know what'sn't this game?
Speaker 6: I'm really gonna be interested.
Speaker 9: In in the defenses the most, uh, you know, the
Speaker 9: the Chiefs ability to tackle fan on on all three levels,
Speaker 9: the line, the lineback with the secondary, uh, you know
Speaker 9: incredible uh opposing Wills Seklon Barkley the year he's had,
Speaker 9: the way that that that line is blocked and then
Speaker 9: Vic Fangio. Uh, you know the impact that he's had
Speaker 9: on the on the Eagles defense, I mean, that's that's
Speaker 9: uh uh, it's gonna be a tremendous matchup. And I
Speaker 9: think you're gonna see it on the on the defensive
Speaker 9: level as uh as much as as much as any
Speaker 9: It's it's it's amazing. Spags isn't isn't a head coach.
Speaker 11: You know that.
Speaker 6: Uh, he's an incredible coach.
Speaker 9: And you know everybody in that game is uh uh
Speaker 9: you know, it's it's nothing but respect.
Speaker 2: Then all right, So what was your defensive philosophy against
Speaker 2: the Chiefs and Mahomes.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was to contain, to contain, you know, play
Speaker 9: play the first players as well as we could.
Speaker 6: And you know he's got.
Speaker 9: He's got that ability to to to extend, extend the
Speaker 9: place too. So you have to plast during the secondary,
Speaker 9: you have you have to stay with with uh and
Speaker 9: and do you and do your best to not give
Speaker 9: him the look that he is incredible at. He is
Speaker 9: incredible at finding the you know, the man's own the
Speaker 9: man's own look. And and then and then you have
Speaker 9: to do you have to tackle uh and and cover
Speaker 9: and and you got to play good.
Speaker 6: But uh, he's uh, he's an incredible player.
Speaker 2: Talking to Jim Harball, the Chargers head coach, I don't
Speaker 2: know if there's this seismic shift, but we saw it
Speaker 2: with Justin Herbert, Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen Less passing. Their
Speaker 2: quarterback rating goes up. There's a little bit more running
Speaker 2: involved in this. So was that a conscious decision on
Speaker 2: your part because Justin Herbert threw one hundred fewer passes
Speaker 2: this year, but his qb R was higher.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you want to you want to have
Speaker 6: an identity.
Speaker 9: I mean, in my opinion, I mean that's uh that
Speaker 9: the philosophy of of being physical, being durable, being consistent,
Speaker 9: and finding the uh you know, the signature play you
Speaker 9: know the signature.
Speaker 6: Uh you know run play that that a that.
Speaker 9: A defense has to stop. And then off of that
Speaker 9: comes play action. Off of that comes uh you know,
Speaker 9: ways to protect it in the in the quick game,
Speaker 9: the movement.
Speaker 6: Game, uh you know, the the the play action game.
Speaker 9: You know, especially I think some some teams were uh
Speaker 9: you know, highly successful. Philadelphia has been highly successful doing that.
Speaker 9: The wide screens and you see that you know they're
Speaker 9: able to protect. Uh you know that that running game
Speaker 9: that way. I mean, that's that's the philosophy. And it's
Speaker 9: you know, the teams that are really good the team.
Speaker 9: Both teams that are in this game, I mean, are
Speaker 9: are highly effective, you know, running the football and throwing
Speaker 9: the football and uh, you know, ways to move the ball,
Speaker 9: uh and not turn it over, not be your help,
Speaker 9: but be able to beat beat your opponent. Uh as well,
Speaker 9: those are the those are key factors for me, how
Speaker 9: much we can tacklings.
Speaker 2: How much were you rooting for Notre Dame versus Ohio
Speaker 2: State a couple of weeks ago?
Speaker 6: It was the same. I was the same.
Speaker 9: I find myself just uh, you know, rooting for the
Speaker 9: root for the team that was playing the hardest, and uh.
Speaker 3: You didn't care if Ohio State lost.
Speaker 6: No, I don't. That stuff doesn't get in my head,
Speaker 6: you know, Dan, it doesn't. It doesn't. It doesn't occupy
Speaker 6: it doesn't occupy that kind of space you know, in
Speaker 6: the in the in the dome.
Speaker 2: I okay, I'm surprised. Rich Eisen, who went to Michigan.
Speaker 2: He said, I rooted for Notre Dame one time, and
Speaker 2: I was rooting for them against Ohio State to beat.
Speaker 3: Them, but you don't care, you that you moved on
Speaker 3: from that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I love for the for the competition,
Speaker 9: and I don't think people make a mistake. I think
Speaker 9: they make a mistake and you know, in their in
Speaker 9: their in their coaches make a mistake of letting you know,
Speaker 9: a certain you know school or opponent or you know,
Speaker 9: uh arrival, uh, you know, get in their head occupied space,
Speaker 9: had that running around. I mean, just the main thing
Speaker 9: is take care of yourself. I mean, uh, you got
Speaker 9: a team. You got a team that you can coach,
Speaker 9: You got a team that you can uh uh, you know,
Speaker 9: do everything in your power to to make better. And
Speaker 9: you know attack that. You know, attack that. That's uh,
Speaker 9: that seems the better way to go.
Speaker 3: Are you and Pete Carroll on friendly terms? Now that
Speaker 3: he's a.
Speaker 5: Lot of battle.
Speaker 6: A lot of battles, a lot of battles.
Speaker 2: But are you friend? Are you friendly ish? Now that
Speaker 2: you're in the same division here? How's that going to
Speaker 2: be at the end of games?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it is.
Speaker 9: It's a respect that I have respect for him, you know,
Speaker 9: I mean, uh, you know the competitor that he is,
Speaker 9: that the teams that uh you know that uh you
Speaker 9: know he produces and yeah, we just we just talked
Speaker 9: the other day on uh on Sunday as a matter
Speaker 9: of fact, and there's uh you know, I'd like to
Speaker 9: feel like he's you know, he he uh he's got
Speaker 9: that uh.
Speaker 6: You know the same kind of you know, uh you know,
Speaker 6: competitive respect.
Speaker 3: Uh, casual conversation with Pete. You're dialing him up. What
Speaker 3: have you see him on the street?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, we were talking about uh we're talking.
Speaker 6: About U about about coaches. He was He's putting his.
Speaker 9: Staff together and uh, you get a few recommendations from
Speaker 9: from folks that I had coached with before.
Speaker 6: But uh, that was good, you know, that was that
Speaker 6: was that was the hey man, here we go again,
Speaker 6: you know, like, uh.
Speaker 9: We've had some battles and and about the about to
Speaker 9: have them again.
Speaker 2: I think you need to go in the weight room
Speaker 2: get ready for that that first game.
Speaker 3: With with Pete.
Speaker 2: After the game, I think you need to bulk up again, Jim,
Speaker 2: No question about.
Speaker 6: It, no question about it, that you're going to hit
Speaker 6: the training environment hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Uh got a good year for that. I'm getting the
Speaker 6: old iron horses. Uh is going in for some fine tuning.
Speaker 9: You know, I've got uh got my hip replaced, uh
Speaker 9: thirteen days ago and uh I got get me the
Speaker 9: arrhythmia taken care of and uh doing doing, doing everything
Speaker 9: in my power to get it as healthy as I can.
Speaker 3: How are the guns though? How do you tell you looking?
Speaker 6: I mean, uh, not as good as my dad.
Speaker 9: You know, my dad is that got these natural uh
Speaker 9: you know biceps that I got.
Speaker 6: I gotta work a lot harder at it than I
Speaker 6: get that. I didn't get that.
Speaker 3: You didn't get that gene. No, didn't get that.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 2: You're joining us on behalf of in Vivid, uh, the
Speaker 2: American biotech company. You want to explain what what they're doing?
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, Uh appreciate that.
Speaker 9: Speaking of health, you know, like I said, you know,
Speaker 9: I mean you get to a point them and I
Speaker 9: was like sixty years it seemed like just uh blue
Speaker 9: twisted steel and and now uh.
Speaker 6: You know, in a few repairs. But uh yeah, in Vivid,
Speaker 6: you know, it's COVID.
Speaker 9: Still here and we everybody's sick of talking about it,
Speaker 9: but uh maybe, but it's still here, and there's there's
Speaker 9: long term effects and especially for munocompromised individuals. You know
Speaker 9: those uh, those that are fighting cancer organ transplants. I
Speaker 9: mean they're they're especially susceptible, and just let them. People
Speaker 9: know there's there's options. Uh not a doctor, you know that, well, Dane. Uh,
Speaker 9: people should talk to their doctors about what's best for them.
Speaker 6: But uh, but check out the website.
Speaker 9: Expand their options dot com, Span their options dot com.
Speaker 2: Could we get your hip the old one for the
Speaker 2: man cave that I can just kind of put it
Speaker 2: in a lot, you know, glass enclosure.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I mean that's like, Uh, I can't believe
Speaker 9: I didn't think of that.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 6: It's like when you get your tonsils out.
Speaker 9: Ye remember when I got my tonsils out when I
Speaker 9: was six. I don't still have them, but I remember,
Speaker 9: like that was the coolest thing that the doctor gave me.
Speaker 6: Gave me my tonsils. But I kept him in a jar,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 9: I had them in the in the room for a
Speaker 9: while until we until he made a move, I think,
Speaker 9: and then they something happened to him.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm a check on that to see if
Speaker 6: that hip is still there.
Speaker 2: But you know, people should understand that, right, you didn't
Speaker 2: need hip replacement surgery. You just it was elective. You
Speaker 2: just did it to show how tough you are. And
Speaker 2: I respect that. I respect that, Coach.
Speaker 6: I want the titanium, you know, I want the ceramic
Speaker 6: ball of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ready to go. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3: Have fun in the off season. Whatever that means, it
Speaker 3: means attacking.
Speaker 6: That means attacking when just.
Speaker 2: Today no V came, What do you The kids deserve
Speaker 2: a vacation something here they're playing sports.
Speaker 6: They're doing they're doing their thing. Uh could be Uh, yeah.
Speaker 9: There's there's some there's some time with the family, but uh,
Speaker 9: you know there Uh, it's just another day to attack,
Speaker 9: a day with the enthusiasm unknown to mankind.
Speaker 6: That's that's why we're treating us well.
Speaker 3: Who has it better than we do?
Speaker 2: Nobody after that one, nobody, nobody.
Speaker 3: Thank you, coach. Good to talk to you again.
Speaker 6: Great to see, great to talk to you.
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Speaker 3: Wapp All right, he's Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: Uh he is joining us on behalf of the great
Speaker 2: folks at FedEx. The Aaron Ground NFL player of the
Speaker 2: Year Awards. Please welcome the Comeback Player of the Year,
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, joining.
Speaker 3: Us on the program, right men, Yeah, he's ready to go. Joe.
Speaker 3: You can sit over here, get closer to me, Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on over here, Yeah, over here. I'll probably
Speaker 2: check to your blind side. It's been a while, I
Speaker 2: think the last time.
Speaker 3: Miami.
Speaker 10: Yeah, a long time ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember asking you where'd your confidence come from?
Speaker 2: And you said you've always had it. But at what
Speaker 2: point do you go, Dad, I think I got confidence, Mom,
Speaker 2: I've got confidence here.
Speaker 10: I mean it grows throughout the years. You know when
Speaker 10: when you're in high school, in middle school, you're you're
Speaker 10: pretty confident, and then you get to college and you're
Speaker 10: not quite as confident for a couple of years, and
Speaker 10: then you get some confidence back, and then you get
Speaker 10: to the NFL and maybe you lose some more confidence,
Speaker 10: and then it continues to grow, you know, the more
Speaker 10: you play in that particular structure of football.
Speaker 2: But who do you talk to when you have that
Speaker 2: like I don't even know if I know how to
Speaker 2: play this game or you have that bad game that
Speaker 2: who picks you up.
Speaker 10: I've always been very blessed with the people around me
Speaker 10: being very you know, calm wise and smart. So I've
Speaker 10: had great friends, coaches, family, parents, my entire my entire life.
Speaker 10: So I've had I've always had people to to lean
Speaker 10: on in those hard moments.
Speaker 2: I would say, but when it doesn't work out at
Speaker 2: Ohio State, do you doubt yourself?
Speaker 3: Or how much do you doubt yourself?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 10: One hundred percent. You doubt yourself, You don't. You know,
Speaker 10: I didn't play for three years, and it wasn't because
Speaker 10: I was hurt. That wasn't a that wasn't a great feeling.
Speaker 10: I was working very hard and improving every single week
Speaker 10: and just never never put it all together there. And
Speaker 10: so I had, you know, I my dad and both
Speaker 10: my brothers played college ball, so I was able to
Speaker 10: talk to them about it, lean on them about their
Speaker 10: experiences and learning from them, and was able to graduate
Speaker 10: early and get out of there so I could go
Speaker 10: and play some football.
Speaker 3: Did you ever think about playing at Ohio University?
Speaker 10: I did, Yeah, I did. That was if I had
Speaker 10: gone there, I probably would have played both football and basketball.
Speaker 10: I was thinking about doing that. Uh, you know, hof
Speaker 10: State was really kind of one of my only you know,
Speaker 10: Power five big, big time school offers, and if I
Speaker 10: didn't have one of those, I probably just would have
Speaker 10: stayed at OU and played both.
Speaker 3: NIL is pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: Now, you probably would have left earlier, I'm guessing at
Speaker 2: Ohio State with nil transfer portal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably the transfer portal.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I probably would have transferred much earlier than than
Speaker 10: I did, but I had to graduate to to go
Speaker 10: and play. At the time, the transfer portal wasn't a
Speaker 10: thing when I was. I think it became a thing
Speaker 10: the next year after I transferred, But I still think.
Speaker 3: You had to sit out a year.
Speaker 2: It seems like yours was the first guy to take
Speaker 2: advantage of NIL.
Speaker 3: When you know Quinn goes there.
Speaker 2: I don't even think he he left during his senior
Speaker 2: year in high school gone it, went to Ohio State,
Speaker 2: start making money there. He sorted the poster child of NIL.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, you should take advantage of if you're
Speaker 10: going to be able to make seven figures and in college,
Speaker 10: you got to go and take advantage of that. Whether
Speaker 10: you're if you're in high school and you're getting offered
Speaker 10: that go wherever they're paying.
Speaker 2: You're the most The reason why the Bengals didn't make
Speaker 2: the playoffs.
Speaker 10: Is we just didn't make plays down the stretch in
Speaker 10: some of these games. We had a lot of these
Speaker 10: games won or they were tight and we had to
Speaker 10: lead in the fourth quarter and we just weren't able
Speaker 10: to close it out for for a multitude of reasons.
Speaker 10: And you know, we had some bad luck too. That's
Speaker 10: part of the life in the NFL. Some years you
Speaker 10: have good luck, some years you have bad. We had
Speaker 10: pretty bad luck, but we had we had the opportunity
Speaker 10: to close out some games that that we didn't.
Speaker 3: Take. Me back to Week two against the Chiefs.
Speaker 10: We played pretty well in that game.
Speaker 3: What about the panicy interference call.
Speaker 10: You know everybody's bringing that one out this week.
Speaker 2: Well, because the Chiefs were in the Super Bowl and
Speaker 2: everybody thinks they get favorable calls.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you had.
Speaker 3: You had a good vantage point there.
Speaker 10: If I was the quarter back of that offense, I
Speaker 10: would have been frustrated if we didn't get that pass
Speaker 10: interference call.
Speaker 2: I would say, so if you're Mahomes, you would have
Speaker 2: been upset if you didn't get that, even if it
Speaker 2: was in Cincinnati and not Kansas City.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't. I mean, it was a close It
Speaker 10: was close in that moment. If I was in the
Speaker 10: second quarter, it's pass interference nine times out of ten
Speaker 10: in that moment, it's probably a fifty to fifty coin toss.
Speaker 10: But I don't blame them for that one.
Speaker 3: Okay, do you think Kansas City gets favorable treatment?
Speaker 10: Everybody does. It just depends on the game.
Speaker 3: You get favorable treatment.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that you said everybody does well.
Speaker 10: Some games you get some calls, some games you don't.
Speaker 10: That's how it goes.
Speaker 2: But you know, if I would have said, your numbers
Speaker 2: you got, you got the receiving triple crown and you
Speaker 2: got the sack leader, it's almost impossible not the playoffs
Speaker 2: if you have those numbers there.
Speaker 10: It's definitely strange. Definitely a strange year.
Speaker 2: And when you lost to New England, I said on
Speaker 2: that Monday, I said, that's going to come back and
Speaker 2: haunt you guys.
Speaker 3: Sorry to bum you down.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you guys have been really happy.
Speaker 3: Well, there's the career at LSU. You did great there.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. When's the last time you've been back to Baton Rouge.
Speaker 10: I try to get back there once a year. Usually
Speaker 10: I have some kind of event at the at the
Speaker 10: spring game. I didn't make it last year, but the
Speaker 10: year before I did.
Speaker 3: What do people say when they see you here in
Speaker 3: New Orleans?
Speaker 10: They get excited. Everybody's always very appreciative of the things
Speaker 10: that we did while we were here. The last time
Speaker 10: I was in New Orleans was for the National Championship,
Speaker 10: so that brings back some good memories.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I'll bum you out again. You played the
Speaker 2: Eagles and they roughed you up as well. How often
Speaker 2: do you stare over the line of scrimmage and you
Speaker 2: see Jayleen you want to make sure you know where
Speaker 2: Jalen Carter is.
Speaker 10: They got some They definitely have a lot of a
Speaker 10: lot of guys up front that can make your life tough.
Speaker 10: But you know, in our division, we play a lot
Speaker 10: of those guys. So it feels like every single week
Speaker 10: we're playing a Miles Garrett or a T. J. Watt
Speaker 10: or a Jalen Carter or Cam Hayward. So I think
Speaker 10: that's just life in the NFL.
Speaker 2: But who makes you a little more I don't want
Speaker 2: to say nervous, but a little more aware of where
Speaker 2: he is when you go to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: Is there one player that stands out more than anybody else.
Speaker 10: Chris Jones, because there's not a lot of guys after
Speaker 10: Aaron Donald retired, there's not a ton of interior guys
Speaker 10: that can cause as much disruption as he can. And
Speaker 10: he's fast, he's athletic, he gets back there fast. They
Speaker 10: move him all around. They play him at end, they
Speaker 10: play him inside, they play him left right. He just
Speaker 10: kind of depends on what offensive lineman he wants to
Speaker 10: rush against.
Speaker 3: Who had a better defense? The Eagles are the Chiefs.
Speaker 10: That's tough to say. That would say they were. They
Speaker 10: were both difficult to go against. The Chiefs are always
Speaker 10: on third down, they're always tough. Third defensive coordinator is
Speaker 10: so good you you never really know where the pressure
Speaker 10: is coming from.
Speaker 2: But explain that, though you know something's happening, you go
Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage, you're trying to figure out
Speaker 2: what it is and where's it coming from.
Speaker 10: Yeah, they'll put two guys up there, and then in
Speaker 10: the line of scrimmage, they'll have a linebacker either in
Speaker 10: the A gap or the B gap, and then another
Speaker 10: linebacker in the other B gap, and then they could
Speaker 10: bring the corner and that linebacker to the right, or
Speaker 10: they could bring the nickel and that linebacker to the left,
Speaker 10: and you kind of just have to guess and and
Speaker 10: feel their demeanor and see if they're gonna if you
Speaker 10: think they're gonna bail, if you think they're gonna come,
Speaker 10: because they could bring it both sides.
Speaker 2: Okay, what is the tell? Like you're looking for somebody
Speaker 2: if they're leaning a little bit or.
Speaker 10: Yeah wait wait on a on a foot eyes communication
Speaker 10: a lot of times can give it away.
Speaker 2: Uh, but they I would say they make it the hardest.
Speaker 2: Take me to the line of scrimmage. You're going to
Speaker 2: change the play. So you're there, you see the defense,
Speaker 2: and then you know now you're gonna go. Okay, this
Speaker 2: is what I think.
Speaker 3: You have two plays when you go to line of scrimmage.
Speaker 10: Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. Usually on third down
Speaker 10: you do because you you know you have tendencies based
Speaker 10: on the down and distance.
Speaker 3: Give me a real audible, I'll give.
Speaker 10: You a shorter one. Uh trips right eighteen straight can
Speaker 10: nineteen wash.
Speaker 3: So you're just gonna throw it up to Jamar Chase.
Speaker 10: That was a run. That was a run play. But oh,
Speaker 10: I can always just go easy easy.
Speaker 2: Jamar is over there. One on one so easy. Easy
Speaker 2: is Jamar here?
Speaker 3: It comes?
Speaker 10: Yeah, there you go?
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: How often have you thought back to that final play
Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: Not for a while.
Speaker 10: We brought it up.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrows won a Heisman Trophy joining us here. But
Speaker 2: I thought, if you if and doesn't get you scores a.
Speaker 10: Touchdown, Yeah, I think so. I would have had to
Speaker 10: wait a little bit longer because the safety was cheated
Speaker 10: off the hash a little bit to Jamar's side, because
Speaker 10: we had already thrown a go route early in the
Speaker 10: game in that same look to Jamar on the go
Speaker 10: on the other side, going the other way on that field,
Speaker 10: and so the safety was smart. He'd started cheating over
Speaker 10: that way. So I had to try to look him off.
Speaker 10: And you know, by the time I was gonna come
Speaker 10: back to it, didn't have didn't have that time.
Speaker 3: Aaron got on you quickly.
Speaker 10: He got on you quick. Yeah, he would do that.
Speaker 2: There's there's very few players like him. And when he
Speaker 2: came out of college, nobody really knew anything about Aaron Donald.
Speaker 3: You know, what's six feet talls.
Speaker 10: Not as big as you expect him to be, but
Speaker 10: boy was he strong and fast. He would get back
Speaker 10: there so fast.
Speaker 3: All right, let me hear the plug here.
Speaker 2: Let's see if you can give me your best Peyton
Speaker 2: Manning FedEx Aaron Ground NFL Player of the Year awards
Speaker 2: to Let's hear how it.
Speaker 10: Sounds my Peyton Manning.
Speaker 2: No the way you you know, Peyton's always selling everything,
Speaker 2: so just you know, salesman here.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, promoting stuff here.
Speaker 6: I won.
Speaker 10: I won the Air and Ground Player of the Year
Speaker 10: in twenty twenty two, so that was exciting. To have
Speaker 10: two of those. Would be fun now that they have
Speaker 10: non quarterbacks involved. I think it would be pretty cool
Speaker 10: for me and me and Jamar to win it together.
Speaker 10: So I think that would be a cool You have
Speaker 10: a vote, No, I don't get I don't get it.
Speaker 10: It's not like a high It's not like the Heisman
Speaker 10: where the post winners get a vote. Who did you
Speaker 10: vote for for the Heisman? Did I vote for Travis Hunt?
Speaker 10: I voted for Travis Hunt?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, where's your Heisman?
Speaker 10: Don't worry about that.
Speaker 11: Why.
Speaker 10: I just had too many things going on, okay, crazy people?
Speaker 10: Yeah right, okay, I don't need people knowing where I
Speaker 10: keep things.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, my bad, I know that you went
Speaker 3: through tough time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you get things back to be determined? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: we've seen that with a bunch of athletes around the country.
Speaker 10: Though, So yeah, crazy times out here.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah. And my hometown, by the way, where's that Cincinnati?
Speaker 10: I didn't know that. Yeah, that's cool. From what high school?
Speaker 11: Did you go to?
Speaker 3: Mason? Oh?
Speaker 10: Nice?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Cool?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you saw the statue when.
Speaker 10: I think it's twenty feet tall?
Speaker 3: Now they keep it. Do you care who wins Super
Speaker 3: Bowl Sunday?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 10: Not really.
Speaker 3: Are you gonna watch?
Speaker 10: I'll watch the second half probably, Okay, I'll be flying back.
Speaker 3: Okay before that. But you have a party?
Speaker 10: No, I won't to have a party. Maybe you have
Speaker 10: somebody over for the second half. No, there's not a
Speaker 10: lot of people in Cincinnati right now.
Speaker 2: Well, you can make friends, can't you don't you have
Speaker 2: regular friend I'm make friends?
Speaker 3: It's the uh are you sorry? You came on? You know?
Speaker 3: Do we need to try this again next year?
Speaker 10: Where I'm kind of some fun. I got up a
Speaker 10: little bit here.
Speaker 2: Come on, I made you uncomfortable in the pocket, and
Speaker 2: I was rooting for you to make the playoffs there
Speaker 2: I think everybody was the twenty second annual FedEx Air
Speaker 2: and Ground NFL Player of the Year Awards, and you
Speaker 2: are nominee.
Speaker 3: So they're going to announce this later tonight at NFL Honors.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I think it'll be great.
Speaker 3: All right, it's great, see you. Thanks for joining us,
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 3: He joins us every Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: He's the Hall of Famer, two times Super Bowl champ,
Speaker 2: head coach of the Buffalo's Dion Sanders back.
Speaker 3: Here in the man k.
Speaker 2: And we all made the mistake of what he was
Speaker 2: going to be wearing. We went jeans on jeans. There
Speaker 2: suit it though, but but no no track suit?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: All right, gotta you gotta whistle there.
Speaker 11: I'm a coach, So.
Speaker 3: Are you going to use the whistle during this interview?
Speaker 11: Anything?
Speaker 3: Okay? Fair enough? How many pairs of shoes do you want?
Speaker 11: I haven't taken inventory in quite some time, but it's
Speaker 11: it's a lot like Jordan's or I'm not a Jordan guy.
Speaker 11: I'm a prime guy. You know, not got my own shoes.
Speaker 3: Did you ever own? Did you ever own?
Speaker 11: Jordan's Maybe a parasol, but I love Mike. Mike is
Speaker 11: my guy. It's kind of different when you know Jordan,
Speaker 11: you know, like you know of it. It's a little different.
Speaker 11: I like, I like what I like. I'm not a
Speaker 11: big sneaker everyday guy, but when I do wear tennis
Speaker 11: shoes mostly were my own.
Speaker 3: What do you take away from Jordan's like everything?
Speaker 11: He's the greatest, He's the goat, He's a character, class, work, ethic.
Speaker 3: Nothing Lebron could do.
Speaker 11: I'm not gonna put another brother down, but liting another,
Speaker 11: I'm not doing that. We don't do that now. Both
Speaker 11: of those guys are black excellence to me. Both of
Speaker 11: those guys are on different mountains and they've they've reached
Speaker 11: their les differently, but certainly they they have reached it.
Speaker 11: We could compare everybody to them, but not them against
Speaker 11: one another. I'm not doing that.
Speaker 3: If I had you in your prime against Travis Hunter now.
Speaker 11: Right, Travis bad Boy, I'm not putting Travis down. Travis
Speaker 11: bad Boy, there's like another sign to me, Travis is
Speaker 11: a generational type of young man that we may never
Speaker 11: ever see again. The reason we may never ever see
Speaker 11: him again because coaches won't allow it because they can't
Speaker 11: fathom what they can't do themselves. I did it at
Speaker 11: an extreme level, so I was able to guide him
Speaker 11: and lead him and allow him to do it without
Speaker 11: the risk of jealousy, a envy, or hatred from his teammates.
Speaker 11: Travis is unbelievable. Travis is the best player in this
Speaker 11: draft by far.
Speaker 3: Match your challenge his talents.
Speaker 11: Match man' I'm that old coach in the corner of
Speaker 11: the ring that bot and coach said left right, left right.
Speaker 11: You got it. That's it. I'm not matching nothing. I'm
Speaker 11: trying to help him exceed anything I would ever fathohim,
Speaker 11: not only on the field, but off the field as well.
Speaker 3: How would you use him if you're an NFL cause.
Speaker 11: I've already showed him how to use him. Why would
Speaker 11: they defer?
Speaker 3: I don't you know.
Speaker 2: We've talked to people who've played, you know, either defensive
Speaker 2: back or wide receiver saying you have to go.
Speaker 3: To these meetings. Come on, man, I'm just going by
Speaker 3: what they tell me.
Speaker 11: When is the last time you heard a football player say, boy,
Speaker 11: that meeting really.
Speaker 2: Helped me, No, but you have they require you to
Speaker 2: be at certain places.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 11: I was there for fourteen years. I know the drills.
Speaker 11: Travis has never been mistaken for an idiot on the
Speaker 11: football field. He's very intelligent, very intelligent on the field
Speaker 11: and off the field. I had a four point old GPA,
Speaker 11: let's get that straight. So he's a smart young man.
Speaker 11: He will be prepared for whatever you place in front
Speaker 11: of him. Generational, loves the game, don't party, don't smoke,
Speaker 11: don't drink. Kind of secludes himself, kind of an introvert
Speaker 11: is if you should say, but he can play some during.
Speaker 3: Football, but full time dB, full time wide receiver.
Speaker 11: Why not you play an NFL game. It's much slower
Speaker 11: than the college game. The college game is no huddle,
Speaker 11: is tempo. We plays that the players are the players
Speaker 11: that the plays. The pro game is so durned slow.
Speaker 11: You go into the huddle, you take your time, you
Speaker 11: call another play. Not only that, you can't touch them,
Speaker 11: you can't hit him in the secondary. So the risk
Speaker 11: of being injured is not as such as the college
Speaker 11: football game. The pro games protects you even more. I
Speaker 11: think what he does should TRANDSND to the next level.
Speaker 11: He's already shown them what he could. He's capable of doing.
Speaker 11: The reason they're saying he can't do both because they
Speaker 11: never found them to do both.
Speaker 2: He's deon Sanders. Why does the media want you to
Speaker 2: coach in the NFL.
Speaker 11: I'm not gonna say the media. The media is uh.
Speaker 11: Some people are very kind. Some people do clickbait. So
Speaker 11: when you mention my name, that's gonna warrant an opinion.
Speaker 11: You're not gonna mention my name and not have an opinion.
Speaker 11: If you say anything and mention me, you're gonna have
Speaker 11: an opinion. I'm not the kind of guy that's idle
Speaker 11: that you have nothing to say. When I walked in,
Speaker 11: you had an opinion. So that's just the thought that
Speaker 11: we provoke. So it's not the media. I just think
Speaker 11: when you look at me, you're based with an opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think the media it allows them. You know,
Speaker 2: when you talk to Jerry Jones, there was wishful reporting.
Speaker 2: I think that was attached.
Speaker 11: To Jerry is a magnetic man. Just us sitting down
Speaker 11: hugging each other. He said, right behind me the honors
Speaker 11: last night, and his beautiful wife. But just he's magnetic.
Speaker 11: If we talking Hug is gonna be a story. Whatever
Speaker 11: Jerry does is gonna be a story. Jerry is the
Speaker 11: only owner in the NFL that consistently makes you feel
Speaker 11: as though his team has a chance to win a
Speaker 11: Super Bowl every year and you have an opinion about it.
Speaker 11: What other owner has that that authenticity and that that
Speaker 11: that attraction. Nobody. Jerry's wonderful kind man, and I love him.
Speaker 3: If he had asked you to interview with the job.
Speaker 11: I wouldn't have to interview. My interview is being played.
Speaker 11: Why would I have the interview?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 11: Can you coach you? You can't. You can watch that. You
Speaker 11: can see that I'm pretty durn good at what I do.
Speaker 11: I don't have to interview. You just have to come
Speaker 11: and this is my staff. This will be my staff.
Speaker 11: Who do you want me to hold over? Okay, here
Speaker 11: we go. Know what we're gonna do. And but I'm
Speaker 11: more I'm more involved. I'm not gonna just let you
Speaker 11: build it for me. I need to build it. We
Speaker 11: need to build it together so so that I could
Speaker 11: make it certain I had a hand in our success,
Speaker 11: certainly not our fil.
Speaker 3: Did you want to be asked to coach the Cowboys?
Speaker 11: I love the college football game. I'm built for the
Speaker 11: college football game at this point in my life, and
Speaker 11: I'm not doing nothing at that next level with doubt
Speaker 11: my sons. Everybody know that. Why would I do that?
Speaker 11: Why would I go coach against my son? Who wants
Speaker 11: to do that? Who signs up for that? Hey, I
Speaker 11: want to go coach against my son? What idiot does that? No,
Speaker 11: if that was gonna happen, that would be one of
Speaker 11: the continguencies.
Speaker 3: So if you could coach, okay, So that's the only way,
Speaker 3: if you can.
Speaker 11: So I've it's always what I've always said.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is it. How do you prepare for the
Speaker 3: draft with your son?
Speaker 11: He's I prepare him. I prepare them for the draft.
Speaker 11: He and shalloh. I prepare them with the thought process,
Speaker 11: the language understanding, the room understanding. This is what this
Speaker 11: team has, this is what the questions that you may
Speaker 11: want to warrant. But I prepare them as men for
Speaker 11: the moment, because we're gonna get that moment. The reason
Speaker 11: you sit up here is because you've been maximizing your
Speaker 11: moments for how many years now forty forty years. That's
Speaker 11: why you're hear because of the moment. So and these
Speaker 11: guys are all assisting you because they understand how to
Speaker 11: handle their moments. So I prepare my kids for the moment.
Speaker 11: So when you ask them a question that you're not
Speaker 11: gonna catch them off card. You're not gonna catch them
Speaker 11: in a vicarious situation because I prepared them for that moment.
Speaker 11: And I think that's the job.
Speaker 3: Of a father. As a father. Are their teams you'd
Speaker 3: prefer he didn't play for?
Speaker 11: There's a lot of teams I prefer any. It's just
Speaker 11: like I said, aren't there teams that you don't want
Speaker 11: to watch.
Speaker 6: That?
Speaker 11: You hit the remney? You just hit the clicker like that,
Speaker 11: you nern skippy. You're right, it's teams I didn't want
Speaker 11: to play for, So why wouldn't I want my kids?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 11: Come on, man, I'm a dad. I'm a real dad
Speaker 11: that has a lot of information of about the NFL.
Speaker 11: I know some folks who know some folks who know
Speaker 11: some folks in the NFL, and I know what's behind
Speaker 11: the curtains. So definitely I'm gonna lead them in the
Speaker 11: right direction.
Speaker 3: But how do you how do you navigate that?
Speaker 11: I would meet with them behind the door, closed doors.
Speaker 11: I would not call them out. I would not put
Speaker 11: them on front street and talk about their organization because
Speaker 11: people work too hard to make it right. Instead of
Speaker 11: a guy like me ignorantly saying something wrong, I would
Speaker 11: meet with them privately and talk about my concerns so
Speaker 11: we could have an understanding.
Speaker 3: Has that happened already?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 3: How many teams?
Speaker 6: Few?
Speaker 11: I just want to know. I just want to know why.
Speaker 11: If you don't get your wise answer, you're gonna always
Speaker 11: be curious to life. I like to get my wives
Speaker 11: uh answered, because this is my guy. I mean, these
Speaker 11: are my kids. This ain't just a homie a friend.
Speaker 11: These are my kids.
Speaker 3: Who does Shador remind you of his dad?
Speaker 11: He reminds me and me and a lot of ways.
Speaker 11: He he he. He's the son that has always been there.
Speaker 11: Like what I mean by that is like Bucky, my
Speaker 11: oldest son. He lived with his mother. His mother for
Speaker 11: a period of time. I was always fathering him, but
Speaker 11: he didn't stay in the house for a period of
Speaker 11: time because of separation and divorce. But I want custody
Speaker 11: of my second set of kids, my second three. But
Speaker 11: Shador never ventured out he he. He didn't get mad
Speaker 11: to get upset and run to mommy and and whatever
Speaker 11: that would would be. Shador has always consistently been there.
Speaker 2: But just he's been with you. You mean yeah, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what i'd mean by there. I admired his toughness.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh. He hung in the pocket, but he's not elusive
Speaker 3: like you.
Speaker 11: He we don't want their speed. Yeah, but if he was,
Speaker 11: he was running the ball profusely, you will criticize that.
Speaker 11: He's a drop back past it. He's a preer, pure
Speaker 11: pocket picker.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't criticize it because we look at Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 11: Only it's only Lamar won Lamar and Lamar didn't win
Speaker 11: an MVP Award that he should have won last night.
Speaker 11: So there's always going to be criticism when your gift
Speaker 11: is exemplified tremendously.
Speaker 3: But Josh Allen runs, Yeah.
Speaker 11: But you don't criticize him for running. You've never criticized
Speaker 11: him for running. You've criticized Lamar for running. That's a
Speaker 11: great analogy. I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 2: No, I've criticized Josh Allen because he didn't take care
Speaker 2: of the football.
Speaker 11: No, A lot of people have.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, I can only speak for me. You're
Speaker 2: speaking in generalities, I Lamar Jackson I thought was gonna
Speaker 2: win the m v P, thank you. I thought he
Speaker 2: was going to win the idea too. Josh Allen is
Speaker 2: taking care of the football this year better, and I
Speaker 2: thought that was the Lamark.
Speaker 11: No, okay, both guys are tremendous. We can't put Josh
Speaker 11: down and lift Lamar up. But that MVP trophy I
Speaker 11: thought was Lamar.
Speaker 3: I would have given it to Saque Barklay.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Lamar, well, because he's here. Would you have given
Speaker 11: it to him if he wasn't here?
Speaker 3: He ran for two thousand yards, he changed their offense.
Speaker 11: Yeah, but that has been done before, Yeah, multitude of times.
Speaker 3: We're never going to have an MVP be a running back.
Speaker 11: But Lamar, what he did. I forget his statistics, but
Speaker 11: his turnover was when he had three interceptions or something
Speaker 11: four interceptions in what eighteen nineteen games. It's crazy, that's absurd.
Speaker 11: Like what he's doing is what everybody said he couldn't do,
Speaker 11: and he did it to another level and it still
Speaker 11: wasn't glorified.
Speaker 3: What if we had the MVP handed out at the
Speaker 3: end of the year.
Speaker 11: That's what it should be handed out. That's when all
Speaker 11: awards should be handed out when the body at work
Speaker 11: is done.
Speaker 2: So then it's either Mahomes or Saquon Barkley who probably
Speaker 2: would win the MVP.
Speaker 11: Now it's because they have the lasting impression. That doesn't
Speaker 11: mean that they're the MVP.
Speaker 3: But that isn't value winning championships.
Speaker 11: Yes, but it's not singlely value that don't make you
Speaker 11: better because your team is there, you have a better team.
Speaker 11: It's some guys that could flat out play, but if
Speaker 11: you put them on a different team, they're wonderful. Example
Speaker 11: cam Ward, cam Ward and is your door? Are best
Speaker 11: of friends? Cam Ward? Last year he probably would have
Speaker 11: been on a third fourth round draft pick. He goes
Speaker 11: to Miami. Now he's arguably the first pick.
Speaker 6: What happened?
Speaker 11: What changed? Was the scout's wrong or did he go
Speaker 11: to a better team and get in a better situation
Speaker 11: or was the scout's wrong?
Speaker 3: Probably both.
Speaker 11: So let's say they're wrong. They misdiagnosed him, they misrepresented him,
Speaker 11: they treated him unfairly. And I love where he is
Speaker 11: right now, I flat I love it because it make
Speaker 11: him all look like a fool because last year, you
Speaker 11: can't tell me this wasn't the same guy, that's the
Speaker 11: same camp that I knew, that's the same camp, is
Speaker 11: doing his thing. He just has a different uniform on.
Speaker 11: And I love it.
Speaker 3: If you could change one thing about college football right now.
Speaker 11: It has to be more structure in regards to what
Speaker 11: was supposed to what was supposedly in IL. It's not
Speaker 11: in IL. It's collective, it's pay per view. So if
Speaker 11: I could change something, that would have to be structuring
Speaker 11: guidelines for these kids. It would be a mimic of
Speaker 11: the NFL when when rookies come in, this is what
Speaker 11: you could get, this is the maximum. It would be
Speaker 11: like that for high school kids. Then the college kids
Speaker 11: that have already proven themselves would be more would have
Speaker 11: more value. We got to have some type of structure.
Speaker 11: If not, you're going to see the same teams that's
Speaker 11: exhausted themselves financially, and the collectives go to the playoffs.
Speaker 11: Every year. You may see two surprises like Arizona State,
Speaker 11: who played phenomenal, and a couple of other teams, but
Speaker 11: mostly was it Boise State. It played phenomenally, but you know,
Speaker 11: you get knocked out. So if it's not, even if
Speaker 11: I can't give you what the other team can give
Speaker 11: you a pay you it's not evening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if we get to the pro
Speaker 2: model eventually, where maybe we take the top fifty schools.
Speaker 3: And then we kind of divide them into regions, and that's.
Speaker 11: Gonna happen eventually.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you think it's.
Speaker 11: Going And in most schools, probably gonna break away from football.
Speaker 11: Is probably gonna break away from the other sports. It's
Speaker 11: probably gonna be football. Then the other sports have their
Speaker 11: own ad and it's probably gonna roll like that.
Speaker 2: Uh, you're here. It's almonds. It's almonds, and I love it. Yeah.
Speaker 11: I don't just endorse the product to endorse the product.
Speaker 11: I endorse the product because I believe in it, like
Speaker 11: you know, being healthy, being fit. You know, I don't
Speaker 11: have a belt loop. You see, my pants don't have
Speaker 11: bet loops. I gotta stay lean and mean, so almost
Speaker 11: keeps me right there. Weight wise. My skin is pretty
Speaker 11: Look at that close up coming close up on me.
Speaker 11: This win what skin is looking good?
Speaker 3: Once you're playing weight and I supposed where you are now.
Speaker 11: I probably was anywhere from one eighty five to two
Speaker 11: eight right now, I'm probably two o fo leg lightly
Speaker 11: bo back to my almonds.
Speaker 3: Right here we go.
Speaker 11: I love California almonds. I love everything about it. They're
Speaker 11: a healthy snack because I'm a I'm a fit guy,
Speaker 11: so I'm a health conscious type of guy. And when
Speaker 11: I'm starving and when I'm hungry or something, just to
Speaker 11: have something, instead of stopping at a fast food place
Speaker 11: or whatever to grab something, I'm able to pop my almas.
Speaker 2: In almonds dot com. Which team will be serving your
Speaker 2: son almonds in the.
Speaker 11: That's good, That's good. I don't, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 11: I think he's gonna go. I don't think. I know
Speaker 11: he's gonna go anywhere from from one to three. I
Speaker 11: think at the latest and uh last year, leading up
Speaker 11: to last season, I said that he and Travis probably
Speaker 11: gonna be one and two or something like that. But
Speaker 11: it's probably gonna be two and three or one and two,
Speaker 11: one and three. It's gonna be one of the other.
Speaker 11: But I'm excited. He's the only quarterback that has had
Speaker 11: I think seven coordinators. He's the only quarterback that that
Speaker 11: has uh played every game, started every game in high
Speaker 11: school as well as college except one. He's the only
Speaker 11: quarterback that you hint bragging boast of a running game
Speaker 11: on an offensive line that has tremendously uh protected him.
Speaker 11: He had to do what he had to do. He's
Speaker 11: the only quarterback that stands and delivers each and don't
Speaker 11: fault anyone.
Speaker 6: That.
Speaker 11: I love what this kid is about. He's training right now,
Speaker 11: he's on the field right now, working out.
Speaker 2: It's Almonds dot Com. Own your Prime's.
Speaker 11: Right, it's right. We're in our prime. We got to
Speaker 11: own your prime. And you got to be healthy.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 11: You guys gotta think healthy, eat healthy, live healthy. And
Speaker 11: you guys look good most of you. Who doesn't, well,
Speaker 11: it's obvious. I think it's obvious.
Speaker 3: Oh, Marvin's got his shades on over there.
Speaker 11: You look good to man, appreciate it. But I'm glad.
Speaker 11: I'm glad you're included. I'm glad inclusiveness that I see.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 11: I like that's right. I like the black thing. I
Speaker 11: appreciate you Dan for that. DP didn't need the ruoney room.
Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah no.
Speaker 3: I already had him, he was hired. He was already
Speaker 3: in the building.
Speaker 11: Yeah, but you you made sure he was in.
Speaker 3: The day elevated.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I commoted you should have.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: If he hadn't seen you, work Mark, Maybe get some
Speaker 2: almonds here?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 11: Does the body good? Does the skin good too?
Speaker 3: Did you see the tragger girls out there?
Speaker 11: Let me tell you something, man, you're the best gift
Speaker 11: giver in the game.
Speaker 3: No, you're really upgrade.
Speaker 11: No, you're you're you're good.
Speaker 3: No, but you need an upgrade always.
Speaker 11: Who's gonna say no to a tragger?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 11: Who's gonna say no? Like you? You got it straight.
Speaker 11: And in my on my estate in Texas, they're prominent.
Speaker 11: Tragger is prominent there.
Speaker 10: It's great to see, great to see.
Speaker 11: I love you, man, I appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Thanks for stopping.
Speaker 11: Make sure you talk positively about the Sanders boys. Okay,
Speaker 11: I appreciate that. I will thank you, sir.
Speaker 3: All Right, Jon Sanders will take a break. Play of
Speaker 3: the Day coming up now.