1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Real America's Voice. This is Sunday the Road Forward. 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: We're all about the intersection of faith, culture, and everyday life. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: As always the word of hope and encouragement for you 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: and those you love, especially in these challenging times. I'm 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: doctor Tim Clinton. I'll be your host our special guest 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: joining this week. She represented Minnesota's sixth Congressional District in 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: the United States House and Representatives for eight years. Currently 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: serves as dean of the Robertson School of Government at 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: Regent University. 10 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: Michelle Bachman is back with us. 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: And he is lead pastor of Pathways Church in Mobile, Alabama. 12 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Travis Johnson is with us. He's the president of American 13 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: Buyers and Senior vice president for Public Policy for the 14 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: Doctor James Dobbson Family Institute. 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: Gary Bauer's with. 16 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: Us and they are New York Times bestselling authors, Doctors 17 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: Less and Leslie Perrett. 18 00:00:44,200 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: Thanks for watching. 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: This week, President Trump gave the State of the Union address. 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: Seventy three Democrats didn't even show up for it. A 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: few of them hosted their own quote People's State of 22 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: the Union address. It was nothing burger well anyway, The 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: Missidousi twelve months ago, President Trump inherited a mess, open 24 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: borders flooding into our country, terraced, transgender ideology was being 25 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: roroaded down the throats of American We had a broken economy. 26 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: And a whole lot more. 27 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: The President opened the night urging that our nation is back, 28 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: and just in time for the two hundred and fiftieth 29 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: anniversary of the US of A. Trump declared it's the 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: golden age of America. He claimed the highest stock market 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: in American history, the strongest and most secure border ever, 32 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: and the flow of fentanyls down fifty six percent. The 33 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: broken healthcare mess, it's being fixed, and the prescription drug 34 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: costing disaster has been dealt at death blow. He also 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: addressed the plundering of America and blasted Democrats who refused 36 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: to stand for protecting Americans over illegal aliens. And pressure, 37 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: by the way, is at an all time high for 38 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: the Senate to pass the Save America Act. It is 39 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: time to act. People should have a voter ID and yes, 40 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: by the way, there were some wild and amazing moments 41 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: the USA men's hockey team numerous patriotic moments with the 42 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: awarding of what the Congressional Medal of honor, the purple heart, 43 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: and so much more. 44 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: It was beautiful. 45 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: Thank God that ultimately He rules in the affairs of men, 46 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: and that we can look to God for guidance and 47 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: wisdom in times like these. Our hope, our strength that 48 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: comes from the Lord. Here's a great verse what to 49 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: hold onto this week? John sixteen, Verses twenty three and 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: twenty four. Very truly, I tell you, my Father will 51 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: give you whatever you ask in my name. Until now 52 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: you have not asked for anything in name. Ask and 53 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: you will receive, and your joy will be full. And 54 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pray. We're gonna get started. God be with us. 55 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: Bless our broadcast today. Use it for your glory. Thank 56 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: you for your stead best love, God for your grace 57 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: and mercy. Thank You for the gift of salvation through 58 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: Christ in Jesus' name. 59 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: Amen. 60 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim 61 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram. 62 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: And X. 63 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: We love being a part of your life. 64 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: Joynson Now is former US Representative from the great State 65 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: of Minnesota. The Honorable Michelle Bachman. She was the very 66 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: first Republican woman from Minnesota elected to the US House 67 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: of Representatives, where she served four congressional terms. She's the 68 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: author of the best selling book Core Conviction. She now 69 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: serves as the dean of the Robertsons School of Government 70 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: at Regent University. Michelle, welcome back. 71 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining me. 72 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 5: It's always great to be with you. Thank you, Tim Michelle. 73 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: This week the president State of the Union address unbelievable. 74 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: It was shocking. Seriously, I was stunned by it. A 75 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: lot of people said he was very focused, very determined. 76 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: I got a ton of messages, best he has ever done. 77 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: Michelle. 78 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: The tone, I think there was a little bit of 79 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: disgust maybe from the President and maybe a little pity 80 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: or something. I don't know, but it was pretty sobering. Also, 81 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: your take your reflections on the address. 82 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 6: I agree with everything that you said, Tim, and I 83 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 6: think that the president, who has worked like at dragon 84 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 6: speed Energy throughout the entire first year of his presidency, 85 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 6: he realizes what rough shape the United States is in. 86 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 6: And he also realizes the President Biden created a lot 87 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 6: of conflicts across the world. All the bad guys across 88 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 6: the world realized, hey, the cats away, the mice will play. 89 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 6: And so since President Biden wasn't really running the ship 90 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 6: in America, but the bad guys took over. So what 91 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 6: President Trump inherited was something like you can't believe it 92 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 6: was conflicts all over the world. He's tried to calm 93 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 6: that down, and then also the inflation and everything that 94 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 6: happened in the United States. What he has done as 95 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 6: a turnaround our artist is legendary for the United States, 96 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 6: but also for the world. I think the world is 97 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 6: grateful that he's president. He's brought certainty to foreign policy, 98 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 6: and we couldn't be more thrilled. But I think the 99 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 6: disgust that you're talking about is what he found, what 100 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 6: was left to him, what he had to do to 101 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 6: try and get things figured out. You know, it's a 102 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 6: lot tougher to create something that it is to destroy. 103 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 6: And we saw destruction for four years under Joe Biden, 104 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 6: no kidding, absolute destruction, and so now President Trump has 105 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 6: been building that up, and only he could do what's happened. 106 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 6: I think I'm not trying to be like worshiping here, 107 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 6: but I truly believe we don't deserve President Trump. 108 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 5: He is that good of a president. 109 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 6: I'm just very very proud of him for what he's done, 110 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 6: and I'm thankful as an American citizen. 111 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: Michelle, you spent many moments in the chamber. You've been 112 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: down there, you know what it's like. You've since the 113 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: awe and just the amazing work where people reach across 114 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: the isle and do work together. Michelle, when you look 115 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: at last, when you look at what happened this week, 116 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about seventy three Democrats didn't even show up. 117 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: I think that was the number for the address from 118 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: the President. Starting with that and then some of the 119 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, the spectacle stuff that we saw. Just what's 120 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: your take on that? 121 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 6: Well, my take is that they don't care if we 122 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 6: do better. We're just normal people, all of us. We're 123 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 6: just normal people living our lives, trying to have a 124 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 6: better life for our kids and try to end our 125 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 6: lives well. And you just get the sense from them 126 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 6: that either they're lazy or they just really don't care. 127 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 6: They're not interested in making sure that the United States 128 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 6: does better. All they want is more of a bigger government. 129 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 6: They want bigger government, they want whatever they want. They're 130 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 6: very selfish people, to be honest with you, that's my 131 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 6: bottom line, and I'm shocked when people would come to 132 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 6: see me in Congress. I always felt like they put 133 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 6: too much trust in us, like we're trying to do 134 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 6: the best thing for them, if they only knew. Well, 135 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 6: Last night gave the American people a real picture. You 136 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 6: had half the chamber of the Democrats who sat there 137 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 6: bored out of their minds. Some of them were sleeping, 138 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 6: some of them were screaming filthy language like elan Omar 139 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 6: and Rasheta to leave, screaming filthy language. They just had 140 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 6: no connection with normal life. You didn't see normalcy, I'll 141 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 6: tell you. I think one of the most disgusting things 142 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 6: was the beautiful Iranian girl who she and her mom 143 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 6: had come to the United States from Ukraine. 144 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 5: And I couldn't believe it. You know, these. 145 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 6: Democrats wearing Ukrainian pins, they were Ukrainian pins. And the 146 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 6: Ukrainian mother is weeping her eyes out because her daughter 147 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 6: was brutally murdered by a monster the Democrats had let 148 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 6: out of jail like sixteen times, and she's the woman 149 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 6: has crushed. Her life will never be the same. And 150 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 6: so the Republicans are on their feet. 151 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 5: Everybody is, you know. 152 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 6: Applauding this mother because our hearts are broken for her. 153 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 6: And the Democrats were literally sitting there. Some had their 154 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 6: head in their hands, bored out of their minds, sleeping. 155 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 6: They couldn't stand for a mother whose daughter was brutalized 156 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 6: by a monster. That's not political, that's being human, that's 157 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 6: being normal. 158 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: Trump put them in a little bit of a corner 159 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: and he said, I want to have you stand if 160 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: you think your job is to put Americans ahead of 161 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: illegal aliens. It was pretty. 162 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: It was pretty. 163 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: It was sobering to me, Michelle, I was kind of great. 164 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: I was saddened by the whole thing. I couldn't believe 165 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: what I was watching from those pins. I'm talking to 166 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: woman representing our country, you know that, and just coming 167 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: that law enforcement to their behavior that was just beyond 168 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: the pale. It's like, you can't even believe this is school. 169 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: This is like playground stuff, you know that? 170 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 5: Oh exactly. 171 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 6: That's why I think they've completely lost their way. 172 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 5: They haven't been. 173 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 6: Focused him on trying to work with the President to 174 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 6: make the country better. 175 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 5: Over this last year. 176 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 6: All they've tried to do is slow him down. They 177 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 6: don't care that it means that our lives aren't going 178 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 6: to be improved. 179 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 5: They just care about getting back in power. 180 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 6: And that was the best line of the whole night 181 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 6: when the President said that stand if you stand with 182 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 6: the American people rather than. 183 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 5: Illegal aliens, and they refuse to do it. They showed 184 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 5: their true colors. Their voting block. 185 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 6: For the future are illegal aliens. That's who they care about, 186 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 6: that's their voter constituency. That's why they're so angry at 187 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 6: President Trump because they want illegal aliens so that they 188 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 6: can have more welfare and more bureaucracy, and they can 189 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 6: lead those people around by the nose. Because the basic 190 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 6: truth is the Democrat Party they're reaching toward a communist agenda. 191 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 6: Now that sounds like hyperbole on my part, like I'm 192 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 6: being overstating and melodramatic. 193 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 5: I am not. 194 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 6: They have now taken the agenda of what communists used 195 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 6: to go for. That's what they want and so they're 196 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 6: completely out of touch with most Americans. 197 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 5: This tells you how to out of touch they are. 198 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 6: Tim Last night, after CNN was broadcasting the President State of. 199 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 5: The Union, they did a poll. 200 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 6: Before and President Trump was at fifty four percent among 201 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 6: CNNN viewers. 202 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 5: Afterwards he was sixty four percent. 203 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 6: So the CNN audience two thirds of them were right 204 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 6: with President Trump, so he has the normal mainstream agenda. 205 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 5: They have nothing. 206 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 6: Illegal aliens, and you're standing up for monsters that have 207 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 6: gone to jail forty times and you're going to let 208 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 6: them out again. This is not what the American people want. 209 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 6: They are taking their brand and. 210 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 5: They're soiling it in the dustbin of history. Right now. 211 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: God be with us, Michelle. Always great to have a 212 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: good conversation with you. Thank you for all you're doing, 213 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: for standing strong. 214 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 5: Thank you. 215 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 1: Coming up next and he is lead pastor of Pathways 216 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: Church in Mobile, Alabama, Travis Johnson is with us. 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That's Care Andcounsel 243 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: dot com. 244 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 3: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim 245 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 3: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a 246 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: part of your life. 247 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: Johnny's now is Travis Johnson. Travis's lead pastor of Pathway 248 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: Church at Mobile, Alabama. He's CEO of People for Karen 249 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: Learning and founder of By a Tree, Change Your Life. 250 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: He's also a strong and faithful member of the National 251 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: Faith Advisory Board Pastor Travis Johnson. Welcome, thank you for 252 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: joining me. 253 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 8: Hey, thank you so much, Doctor Clinton. It's always good 254 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 8: to be with you and your and your viewers. 255 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: Travis spent a wild week, that's stay to the Union 256 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: address earlier this week unbelievable. I mean most most of 257 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: the people were texting me were like, best Trump address ever, Travis. 258 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: He was in rare form. You know. 259 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: I sense he didn't come across tens or or pressed, 260 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: but probably a little bit more disgusted and maybe he 261 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: had some pity or something. I don't know, but I 262 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: he was. He was strong. I know that he really was. 263 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 8: He did a masterful job of featuring the gallery and 264 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 8: the walk in by the US Olympic team, the gold 265 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 8: medalist hockey players. That was fantastic. It was yeah, I 266 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 8: love that. 267 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: Now. 268 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 8: On Sunday, last Sunday, I had a Canadian that was 269 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 8: with me helping me preach, and so he reminded me 270 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 8: that Canada and the US were playing gold medal hockey. 271 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 8: I said, well, Daniel, here's what you need to know. 272 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 8: If America wins were celebrating from that pulpit, but if 273 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 8: you if Canada wins and you bring it up. I'm 274 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 8: going to talk about how unspiritual and unflattering was it 275 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 8: you did that. What a day, What a moment President 276 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 8: Trump had there at the State of the Union with 277 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 8: the hockey team. 278 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, Travis. We knew there'd be a little 279 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: bit of theatrical stuff going on, little spectacle stuff al Green, 280 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: you know, holding up a little sign and making a 281 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: little commotion like you did last time. And then of 282 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: course some of the well, hey, seventy three Democrats decided 283 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: not even to show up, which is, you know, theatrical 284 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: on their end, but which was like a nothing burger. Okay, 285 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: big deal. But Travis, them not standing for a number 286 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: of events that are just flat out American. You know that, 287 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: when you've got a mama weeping over her daughter being 288 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: brutally murdered on a light trail train there in Charlotte, 289 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: North Carolina Arena, It's just like, how do you get 290 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: to those kind of places, Travis? How do we get 291 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: to those places where we have that much disdain and 292 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: disregard and by the way, disrespect even in the Chamber 293 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: of the Congress of the United States. 294 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 8: Well, you know what I feel like, I feel like 295 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 8: there's a group of Americans that they love America no 296 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 8: matter who's in office, and then there are some who 297 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 8: hate America when they're not in control. And I think 298 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 8: that was on full display when we saw President Trump 299 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 8: ask that those that believed that American citizens should be 300 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 8: put first ahead of illegal immigrants and to stand if 301 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 8: you support that, and to see so many people sitting 302 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 8: saying no, they didn't believe that. And now those same 303 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 8: people will go home to their houses and to lock 304 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 8: the doors on their own house and provide safety for 305 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 8: their own house. But I think that was a really 306 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 8: good point. I don't know how you can't stand with 307 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 8: Arena Zurutska and her mom, and you know, so many 308 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 8: situations like that. I think it was really great. And 309 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 8: I believe that that picture of just under half of 310 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 8: that chamber sitting while so many stood for America. I 311 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 8: think that that is going to live on through the midterms. 312 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 8: You're going to see this in commercials all over the place. 313 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 8: We need to remember that we are Americans and we're 314 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 8: not just Democrats and Republicans, and it should be easy 315 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 8: to stand for the safety and the protection of American citizens. 316 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: Patriotism was a real theme I thought at the event, 317 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, with the Congressional Medal of Honor being given 318 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: to two different recipients, the Purple Heart, those were moving 319 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: to me. And I come from a pretty strong line 320 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: of military and it's just like Travis. That's what America 321 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: should be all about too. In the middle of it. 322 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: I know there are a lot of issues, but here 323 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: we are going into America two fifty. I mean, this 324 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: is a celebration year. This is a year of dignity, 325 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: you know that of just honor and beauty for what 326 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: in the world we've been through for two hundred and 327 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: fifty years. Somewhere hopefully you can reach down in and 328 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: celebrate the goodness and grace of God. We may not 329 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: be a perfect nation. At Travis, were still the greatest 330 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: nation on the face of the planet. 331 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 8: If you've been around the world, you know that. And 332 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 8: there are people that they have effectively and with a 333 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 8: lot of money. I believe implanted an idea that somehow 334 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 8: America is evil and that there's so much to protest against, 335 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 8: But there's so much good in America. Listen, I've been 336 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 8: I've been on every continent. I've seen the best of 337 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 8: what the other continents have to offer. There is no 338 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 8: place like America. It's so prosperous, it's so free, and 339 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 8: it's a gift, and we had to defend it, and 340 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 8: we hot to pray for it. And that's why, you know, 341 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 8: you're talking about your family. That's why my grandfather was 342 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 8: World War Two. He was in the Battle of the Bulge. 343 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 8: We ought to be able to celebrate not only our 344 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 8: warriors that defend the country abroad, but also our warriors 345 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 8: who defend our country in America, our law enforcement, to 346 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 8: see ice and to see those who keep our you know, 347 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 8: EBP and our police officers be demonized like they are 348 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 8: by these extremists. You know, they have families, have children, 349 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 8: they want to go home and see. And when our 350 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 8: elected officials make that a more dangerous situation, and for 351 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 8: a pay that's really capped, you know, I think that's 352 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 8: really sad, but it makes me so proud of our 353 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 8: politicians and our leaders who stand for the people who 354 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 8: keep us out of harm's way. 355 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: Travis, you and I were friends with Charlie Kirk, and 356 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: the President took a moment last night to acknowledge Erica 357 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: Kirk in the audience and the whole issue of political violence, 358 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: you know, and it just seems like the raging left, 359 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: that the violence factors going the wrong way. It's going up, 360 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: not down. But that was a moment there too. I 361 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: know she's under pretty horrific attack assault herself. There's so 362 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: much coming against her in this hour. We need to 363 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: pray for her. What a what a journey. And I 364 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: saw the vice president of JD Vance, well, he went 365 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: to his feet immediately because I know he had a 366 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: deep love in his heart and has a love for 367 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: for Charlie and his influence. 368 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 8: Well, I couldn't imagine someone attacking my wife, and attacking 369 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 8: my wife if she was in a period of deep 370 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 8: grief while trying to take care of small children and 371 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 8: hold an organization together. And for people who claim to 372 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 8: be Charlie's friends silently sit by watch that happen, or 373 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 8: even participate in and we've seen some of that. This 374 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 8: is not this is not our future and and it's 375 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 8: a time for us to rally with the champions, you know, 376 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 8: to me, Charlie, Charlie Kirk is a modern day martyr 377 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 8: in the pattern, in the in the the shape the 378 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 8: legacy of innate saint, you know, in the legacy of 379 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 8: a of an Elliott. You know, I think what a 380 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 8: gift he was to Ecuador, what the Elliots, you know, 381 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 8: he was to the college campus, what the Eliots were 382 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 8: to Ecuador, and what a really great gift in a 383 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 8: national treasure. And you know, I think that what Charlie 384 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 8: did was a powerful witness for gen Z And I'm 385 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 8: so thankful for Erica Kirk and I pray that we 386 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 8: all lift her up in prayer and pray God blesses 387 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 8: you know, TPUSA and all of the people that have 388 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 8: rallied for our campuses. 389 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: Travis, in the middle of all this, you've written a 390 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: very important book. It's really embarrassed for Jesus. But there's 391 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: a play there. There's a little qualifier in front of it. 392 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: Unembarrassed for Jesus and Travis, the message of this you know, 393 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: one of the very first messages I ever preached in 394 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: my whole life was out of Romans one sixteen. For 395 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: I am not ashamed of the gospel. It's the dunamas 396 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: of God. And talk to us, Travis, about the heart 397 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: message of this book and why every Christian, hey and 398 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: those interested in faith need to go through book. 399 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 8: I wish everybody would get unembarrassed of Jesus. The premise 400 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 8: here is that in twenty twenty six, you either have 401 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 8: bold faith or no faith, and that following Jesus from 402 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 8: a distance it causes you to hear his voice more quietly. 403 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 8: And so we see the deconstruction of Jesus. We see 404 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 8: the prodigal Son, the prodigal church. The prodigal Church is 405 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 8: coming home. It references some of the things you're saying 406 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 8: about gen Z having a real revival move. I'd love 407 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 8: for you to get it. You can get it on Amazon, 408 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 8: you could get it at Pastor Travis Johnson dot com, 409 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 8: or you could text Jesus to eight seven seven eighty 410 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 8: five six zero four forty four. And one really great 411 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 8: thing about the book, doctor Clinton, is we're giving one 412 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 8: hundred percent of the proceeds away to reach people in 413 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 8: some of the most challenging places on earth. So in 414 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 8: that regards, I think it's not my book, it's our book, 415 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 8: and I think God's going to do something really great 416 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 8: through it. 417 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: Pastor Travis Johnson, always great to have you, my friend. 418 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me. 419 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 8: Great to be with you. Doctor Clinton. 420 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: Coming up next, he's the President of American values and 421 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: Senior Vice president for Public Policy for the Doctor Jamestobson 422 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: Family Institute, Gary Bauers with US hiveryone. I'm doctor Tim Clinton, 423 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: and you know how important this is. 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He's also senior vice president of public Policy 458 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: for the Doctor James Dobson Family Institute. Gary, welcome back, 459 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. 460 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 9: Thank you Tim, great to be with you, particularly at 461 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 9: a time like this, Gary. 462 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: What a wild week. Hey, the the address by President Trump, 463 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: the State of the Union address, He flat out just 464 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: took the gloves off. And I mean he you could 465 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: tell when he walked into the chamber, Gary, there was 466 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: something in his eyes. You could see it. I mean, 467 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: it was like, I'm gonna bring it. I'm bringing everything 468 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: I got. It's like Rocky walking into the deal. We're coming, baby, 469 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: you know that. Or maybe it was Rambo, I don't know, 470 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: but it was something Gary. 471 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 5: Well, you're right. 472 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 9: I mean you could tell as soon as you lay 473 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 9: the eyes on him that he was he was anxious 474 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 9: to get into the arena and start making his case. 475 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 9: You know, I've seen so many of these over the years, Tim, 476 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 9: and you've seen a lot of them too. This was 477 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 9: a brilliant State of the Union. He laid out the 478 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 9: case of the things he's done. He repeatedly identified today's 479 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 9: Democrat party as being responsible for a lot of the 480 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,239 Speaker 9: problems that he's tried trying to clean clean up. But 481 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 9: the thing that really amazed me, Tim, is is how 482 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 9: he exposed just how I can't think of a better 483 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,239 Speaker 9: word than crazy, the modern day left has become. And 484 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 9: it's not just you know, the whacked out the activists, 485 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 9: you know, related to one group or another. These are 486 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 9: elected officials. 487 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 488 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: They were disgusting, They were offensive. Gary, I mean, it 489 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: was ridiculous. Just see that one lady with that pin 490 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: on her and a whole bit you know, talking about isolate. 491 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: I'm talking an elected official in the chamber with that 492 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: kind of garbage on her. What in the world's wrong 493 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: with them? 494 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I mean, And he was heckled during 495 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 9: the address by the likes of Congresswoman Iohan Omar, who 496 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 9: America rescued from a refugee camp in Somaya and brought 497 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 9: her to the United States. She's sitting in Congress. She's 498 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 9: usually spending her time criticizing America. But she was sitting 499 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 9: in Congress interrupting the President's State of the Union address 500 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 9: and then just to cut four seats in front of her, 501 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 9: and to the left was the dude dressed in address 502 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 9: claiming to be a woman when I don't know what 503 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 9: the heck he was. This is this is the base 504 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 9: of the Democrat Party. And Tim, I thought the most 505 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 9: educational moment was when President Trump said, certainly you can agree. 506 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 9: We can all agree on this. Can't wait. If you agree, 507 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 9: just stand up when I say this, that the purpose 508 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 9: of government is to serve the citizens of the United 509 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 9: States before you serve the illegal aliens coming into the 510 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 9: United States. And the Democrats' butts were cemented to their 511 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 9: seats while the Republicans jumped up in a plot of 512 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 9: what I think almost every American except for the fringe beliefs, you. 513 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: Know, Gary, when you step back and you think about 514 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: everything that happened under the last administration and everything we 515 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: saw the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump 516 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: go through, the law fare, the insanity, hey, the assassination attempts, 517 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: think about it, the political violence, everything the rhetoric, I mean, unbelievable. 518 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: And then you start looking at this waste, fraud, and 519 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: abuse to the end degree somewhat nineteen billion dollars in 520 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: Minnesota alone and probably just touching the hem of the garment, 521 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: if you will. I'm talking about taking money from American 522 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: taxpayers who, by the way, struggle to take care of 523 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: their own veterans, guys who have quoted, and guys who 524 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: have been out there on the front line who battle 525 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: for our country, so that we could enjoy the freedoms. 526 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: That we have. 527 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: What in the world is wrong with us? 528 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 8: No? 529 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 9: I know, you know, if you are a law abiding 530 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 9: taxpayer and you file tax returns and you make a 531 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 9: mistake on your return that sets off one of the 532 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 9: computers at the IRS, you get a friendly letter from 533 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 9: the IRS, sometimes not so friendly, saying oh yeah, prove it. 534 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 9: I mean, if you're a law abiding taxpayer, you know 535 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 9: you better dot your eyes and cross your keys. But 536 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 9: money being given out in the name of the general 537 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 9: welfare to help this group or that group, and it's 538 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 9: a giveaway and you don't have to worry about it, 539 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 9: just to make sure you apply at the right time. 540 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 9: We find out that the cheating in that, the fraud 541 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 9: in that is sky high, and every dollar of that 542 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 9: is coming out of the pockets of the American people 543 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 9: that are worried about can they afford to send their 544 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 9: kid to college? Can they pay their utility bills? What 545 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 9: about groceries? What about the mortgage? Will their son and 546 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 9: daughter be able to afford the first house? And you've 547 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 9: got these again, in many cases illegal immigrants who came 548 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 9: into the country, partnering with the Democrat Party to rip 549 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 9: off the taxpayer and steal billions, billions of dollars. 550 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: Like no words, It's just like unbelievable. And who knows 551 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: the level of corruption across the country. Gary, there were 552 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: a couple of amazing moments. It seemed very patriotic. I 553 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: don't know how you felt about the overall address. I 554 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: mean there was some red, white and blue in there, 555 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: started with the hockey team come below, and in there 556 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: that one boy with his tooth knocked down. I'm just 557 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 1: thinking that that's the spirit of America, you know that. 558 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: What do you think of all that. 559 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 9: Gary, Well, I mean, I agree completely, And that's what 560 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 9: I loved about Ronald Reagan. When I was a much 561 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,959 Speaker 9: much younger guy, I saw Reagan give a speech and 562 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 9: he hit every patriotic bone in my body that had 563 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 9: been taught me by my father, Stanley Spike Bower. And 564 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 9: he got that nicknamed Spike not because he knew how 565 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 9: to play chess. He was a fighter my day was 566 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,719 Speaker 9: and I loved America. That's what I was taught. Reagan 567 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 9: touched those nerves and Ronald Trump does it better than 568 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 9: anybody since Ronald Reagan. There was just I believe, if 569 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 9: you could measure it, there was a surge of patriotism 570 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 9: across the country. Just listening to the President this week 571 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 9: give a State of Union address, At one point I 572 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 9: think he said, if I remember correctly, he just looked 573 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 9: in the camera and said, I love America. 574 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 5: I just love America. 575 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 9: Well, that's the same thing as hockey players were saying 576 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 9: as they were leaving teeth and blood over the ice 577 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 9: rink before they handed the Canadians their heads. 578 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you when they were pinning on purple 579 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: hearts and putting the Congressional Medal of Honor around the 580 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,719 Speaker 1: necks of those two amazing people, I understand the attention. 581 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: You hear what I'm saying at home. Seriously, that's the 582 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: heart of America. 583 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 9: It is tim You know. One of the people that 584 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 9: he recognized was this helicopter pilot that was shot four 585 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 9: times and his hips and legs, but finished his mission 586 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 9: and has been treated for these wounds. And he's there 587 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 9: last night, and the President mentioned Sam tells his story 588 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 9: and when people start applauding, this guy struggles to stand 589 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 9: up through his pain, the surgeries, etc. And the Democrat 590 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 9: side of the room continued with their butts glued to 591 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 9: the seat. They wouldn't even stand up for an American 592 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 9: hero that himself had a hard time standing because of 593 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 9: his wounds. 594 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: Gary Bauro, my friend. Always great to have you, Great 595 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: to be with you, Tim coming up next, Hey are 596 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: New York Times bestselling authors Doctors Less and Leslie Perrott. 597 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 3: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim 598 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 3: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram and X. We love being a 599 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 3: part of your life. 600 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: Johny Snails Doctors Less and Leslie Parrot Less as a 601 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: clinical psychologist and Leslie is a marriage and family therapist. 602 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: Together they're New Times bestselling authors and co founders of 603 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: the Center for Healthy Relationships in Seattle. Less Leslie, thank you. 604 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 2: For joining me. 605 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 4: I'm always good to be with you. 606 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: Hey, as we get started, you know, you don't have 607 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: to go very far into the Bible to realize that 608 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: we are created for a relationship with God and each other. 609 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: And the truth is then that declaration in Genesis two 610 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: twenty four says manchall leave both husband and mother and 611 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: father and cleave under his wife, and they two twain 612 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: shall become one flesh. And there's something about the magic 613 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: or the beauty that moment. There's no more beautiful thing 614 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: in all the world than to be in a relationship 615 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: with someone who's supposed to love you and they actually 616 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 1: love you. And by the way, there's nothing more painful 617 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: in all the world than to be in a relationship 618 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: with someone who's supposed to love you and they don't 619 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: love you. Getting this love piece right is everything, isn't it. 620 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 2: Yeah? 621 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 4: And I would even say to Tim, it's not that 622 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 4: they don't love you, but when they're trying to love 623 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 4: you and you don't feel loved, that's the biggest heartbreak 624 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 4: of all. Right, they're just their heart is in the 625 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 4: right place, but man, they are missing the target. 626 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the tragedy because even when you're giving your 627 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 7: heart and soul to it, you can miss the target. 628 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,919 Speaker 5: Wow, that's disappointing. 629 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: You guys have been doing this relationship stuff forever and 630 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: God's used you guys all over the country, around the world. 631 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, we all know that 632 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: when you ask people what makes for a better relationship, 633 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: they'll say love. But the problem is they don't often 634 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: understand what love is. And you're right, they can be 635 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: like ships passing in the night. This is the Gary 636 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: Chapman piece on the five Love languages that we all quote, 637 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: give and receive love differently, and it can be very 638 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: true in our own marriages. Take us down that road, 639 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: because you guys recently partnered up with Gary doctor Gary Chapman, 640 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: and God's doing something special Brandon book that's just come out, 641 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: something about the love language that matters the most. 642 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, the love language that matters most. And this book 643 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 4: is the result of our own struggle to put into 644 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 4: practice the five love languages. Of course, Gary doctor Chapman 645 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 4: wrote that book more than almost thirty years ago and 646 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 4: sold Timmy's only sold twenty million copies, And so we thought, Gary, 647 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 4: maybe we can help you out. Get Gary. 648 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you see what amazing? 649 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 4: And so but I knew that Leslie's love language was 650 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 4: words of affirmation. And so for the longest time I 651 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 4: was like a walking Hallmark card just of you know, 652 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 4: encouraging her and man, you can do it. Oh, you 653 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 4: want to do that, You'd be the best at that. 654 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 4: And I was just like, I thought, that's what words 655 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 4: of affirmation were. I'd read the Purple Book. I knew 656 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,280 Speaker 4: her love language. Why isn't her love tank getting filled up? 657 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 4: And it wasn't until lots of conversations with Gary and 658 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 4: doing some research, we discovered while there are five love languages, 659 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 4: there are twenty two dialects. 660 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 7: That's the magic word. And you know, you think, okay, 661 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 7: that's getting complicated. It's not really getting complicated. It's letting 662 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 7: you tune in to the nuances that make it right 663 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 7: for the person you're loving. 664 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 4: So with her words of affirmation one of the dialects. 665 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 4: And by the way, just to make sure everybody understands, 666 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 4: you know a dialect. We speak the same language, it's English, 667 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 4: but the way they speak in Boston is different than 668 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 4: the way they speak in Baton Rouge, right, right, And 669 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 4: so we have different dialects of love as well. So 670 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 4: when you can understand the person that you want to love, 671 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 4: when you understand not just their love language, that their 672 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 4: dialect takes it to a whole new level. So Leslie's 673 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 4: love language words of affirmation, but not encouragement. 674 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 9: No. 675 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 7: In fact, I actually felt my love tank draining out. 676 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 7: Was like I sprung a lovely when you would give 677 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 7: me encouragement, because I would just feel pressure to somehow 678 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 7: do a bunch of big things that I didn't really 679 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 7: want to do, and I think, oh wow, I'm going 680 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 7: to have to do that love. 681 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 4: So it was the very opposite of what you know, 682 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 4: I wanted her to experience. And so it wasn't until 683 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 4: we begin to do this research and I realized her 684 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 4: dialect when it comes to words of affirmation is all 685 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 4: about compliments. 686 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I love it if you notice something I've already 687 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 7: done that you found to be amazing and you let 688 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 7: me know. 689 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 4: And it's not like, oh, you know what a beautiful 690 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 4: sweater you have on or whatever. I'm sure you love that. 691 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 5: I don't mind that. 692 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 4: But the real compliments are like, hey, I wanted you 693 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 4: interact with our son Jackson the other day. That was 694 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 4: brilliant parenting that you did. There. I just want you 695 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 4: to know. 696 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 5: Ugh, I can feel it right now. 697 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you get the idea to him. It's the 698 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 4: dialects that's the game changer. And that's why this right 699 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 4: love language as it matters most is all about that. 700 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: So let's go back. The original concept was there are 701 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: five different love languages like giving gifts and words of affirmation, 702 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: actless service, physical touch, those things all matter. And what 703 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: we learned from Gary was, Tim, you're probably different than Julie, 704 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: and if you are trying to love her in the 705 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 1: way you give and receive love. That's probably not where 706 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 1: Julie's at. And so you can be loving with everything 707 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: you've got and Julie doesn't know that you love her 708 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: right now. So we got that piece. Now, same thing 709 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: applies to our kids. You don't love your kids the 710 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: same way because they're different. What does Zach wanted and 711 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: what Megan wanted were on different planets, and so we 712 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: have that and we learned that. Now what you guys 713 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: are doing is you're taking it's deeper into the woods 714 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: than saying it's a little bit more complicated than that. 715 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 1: You can actually quote match up on love language. Oh, 716 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 1: Julie's love languages. She likes gifts or she likes words 717 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 1: of affirmation. The truth is Julie likes access service. If 718 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 1: you do thanks for her, that's where she's at. Man, 719 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: if you don't take the trash out, you are a dog. 720 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: You are a dog, I mean a dog dog. So 721 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: what you're saying, though, is you can actually connect there, 722 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: but you might not still be connecting. That's where we're going. 723 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 4: You said it's actually more complicated than that. I actually 724 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 4: look at it to say it's actually simpler than that. 725 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 4: Because now you don't have to just go okay, it's 726 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 4: their love language is access service. How do I love Julie? 727 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 4: Maybe I know taking the trash out is good. Maybe 728 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 4: I need to do X, Y and Z whatever. It 729 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 4: takes all the guesswork out of love languages when you 730 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 4: understand her dialect. 731 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, it kind of makes you an expert actually loving. 732 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 7: And by the way, I love what you said to him, 733 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 7: because you said, we tend to organically love the way 734 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 7: we would want to be loved out of our own 735 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 7: love language. That's why the love language that matters most 736 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 7: is not ours. 737 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 4: It's the person in front of you. Tim. When when 738 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 4: Gary and Leslie and I were working on this, I 739 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 4: had the manuscript on a table at a restaurant and 740 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 4: the server saw the title the Love Language that Matters Most, 741 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 4: and she slapped her little pad of paper down on 742 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 4: the table. She goes, I know what it is, and 743 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 4: I said, what are you talking about? She said, right there, 744 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 4: the love language that matters most. She says, it's physical touch, right, 745 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 4: because that's my love language. That's the one that really 746 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 4: met You know, we all just want to assume that 747 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 4: it's whatever our. 748 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 7: Without even realizing it. 749 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 3: We do assume that. 750 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 4: So let's let's go back to Julie because actually before 751 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 4: this interview, she called us and she wanted to make 752 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:57,439 Speaker 4: sure we help you. So it was a long I'm there, Yeah, 753 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 4: I'm there with a long call. So so there are 754 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 4: four dialects of lovelngth. This this is the premium assessment 755 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 4: that people can take, by the way, and it shows you. 756 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 4: It'll actually show you which of her dialects is most 757 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 4: important under act And let me just have you into 758 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,919 Speaker 4: it this tim because you'll get it. Is it conveys care, 759 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 4: is it instilled security? Is it alleviate stress or saves time? 760 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 4: There's four dialects for acts of service? Which of those 761 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 4: is most important to Julie? 762 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: Go over them again? 763 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 7: Less Julie's point. 764 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: Now that's funny. You gotta admit that's funny. Listen you guys, 765 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,760 Speaker 1: I know this. We're fighting time real quick. You mentioned 766 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: an assessment there, Yeah, what's that all about. I know 767 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: you guys have you know, married up with doctor Gary Chapman, 768 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: who we all love and we've spent so much time 769 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: with him through the years. 770 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 4: But this is unique. 771 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: This is dynamic. I know you guys put together the 772 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: simbus program saving your marriage before starts, you had an 773 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 1: assessment tool there. Talk to us about this quote love 774 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: language that matters the most. End this brand new assessment piece, 775 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: because that's something that everybody can get into because they 776 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: want to learn it, they want to get it right. 777 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 4: Right. Yeah, There's been tens of millions of people that 778 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 4: take in the little ten second quiz to figure out 779 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 4: what their love language is. That is not this. This 780 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 4: is a fifteen page report that helps you not just 781 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 4: identify your love language, right. That's some people can just 782 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,959 Speaker 4: intuit it just listen to the words, right, But it'll 783 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 4: show you your foreign love language, which is critically important 784 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 4: sometimes that's the person you're trying to love. And then 785 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 4: it helps you identify four people in your life and 786 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 4: the level of the love tanks that you're experiencing with them. 787 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 4: And then it gets into these things like words of 788 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,879 Speaker 4: affirmation where it it'll go through the dialects that we've 789 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,799 Speaker 4: been talking about. And then Tim, you and I as 790 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 4: a psychologist, we understand the value of this. The number 791 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 4: one question that Gary would get whenever you talk about 792 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 4: the five levelanguge, how does personality play into it? 793 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: Oh? 794 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we integrate that into this report too. So 795 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 4: if you're an introvert versus an extrovert, you experience gifts differently, right, 796 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 4: and so understanding the love language and the dialect, and 797 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 4: then even understanding maybe the nuance of how God designed 798 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 4: you and your personality, that's all. It just unfolds naturally 799 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 4: in this assessment. 800 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: We're fighting time here, Leslie, this relationship with Gary and 801 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: this new book. If people want to learn more about that, 802 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: maybe how to get a copy of the book, or hey, 803 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: how to take the assessment? Where can they go? 804 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,720 Speaker 4: Well, they can just go to five Love Languages dot Com. 805 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 4: It's all there and they'll find it all and of 806 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 4: course all of Gary's derivative books. This book the love 807 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 4: language that matters most. This is the first follow up, 808 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 4: the true follow up to the original message. Others have 809 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 4: been you know, for blended families and other things valuable stuff, 810 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 4: but this is the next step. But it's all there 811 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,760 Speaker 4: at five Love Languages dot Com. 812 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: Doctors Less and Leslie Perrott. Thank you guys for joining me. 813 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 4: You bet. 814 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 3: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim 815 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 3: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram and X we love being a 816 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 3: part of your life. 817 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 2: Hey. 818 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: In closing these are unprecedented times. I know they're difficult times, 819 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,399 Speaker 1: but I believe God's in control and that he's at work, 820 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: and I hope you'll press in close to Him and 821 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: his heart. Know that God loves you and wants to 822 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: be in your life. Our hope, our strength comes from 823 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: the Lord. Here's an encouraging verse again from the Bible 824 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: to hold on to this week, John Chapter sixteen, verses 825 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: twenty three and twenty four. Very truly, Jesus said, I 826 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: tell you, my Father will give you whatever you ask 827 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: in my name. Until now you've not asked for anything. 828 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 2: In my name. 829 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: Ask and you will receive. Your joy will be complete. 830 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 1: Hope you know that you can look to God again 831 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 1: for wisdom and direction in your everyday life. But let 832 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: me also say I've learned as a professional counselor that 833 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: it's normal to have concern, maybe some fear or worry 834 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: when life isn't going the way it's supposed to go. 835 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: And I've also learned that if you aren't careful, it 836 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: can begin to consume you, maybe control you. It's easy 837 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: to lose perspective. For some they feel like they've lost hope. 838 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: Say this every week, you don't have to live like that, 839 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: picking up the phone reaching out for help. It's often 840 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: the gateway to a new day or a new you. 841 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: If you or someone you love is struggling help, you'll 842 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: do that reach out for help. There are wonderful counsels 843 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: and pastors who care and you can help you find 844 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: the hope and the answers that you're looking for. There 845 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: are also a lot of wonderful resources available now. I'd 846 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,879 Speaker 1: love to share some of those with you. You can 847 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: find out more at our website at AACC dot net. 848 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: If you're looking for a christ and mental health provider 849 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: maybe in your area, go up on our brand new website. 850 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 1: It's christiancare connect dot com. Christian care connect dot com. 851 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,799 Speaker 1: If you don't have a personal relationship with God, and 852 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: maybe you've been thinking a lot about that, you know 853 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 1: what you can? You can do that right now by 854 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 1: asking Him to come into your life. Simply praying a 855 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 1: prayer something like I'm going to pray with you from 856 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: your heart to his. You could do that right now, 857 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,760 Speaker 1: Lord Jesus, I need you. I know I'm a sinner. 858 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: I believe you died for my sins. I want to 859 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: turn from them, and I want to invite you to 860 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: come into my heart to my life. I want to 861 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: trust you and follow you God as my lord and 862 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: save you. Thank you for loving me, for giving your 863 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 1: life from me on the cross. Thank you for the 864 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: gift of grace and forgiveness, and the gift of eternal 865 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 1: life of heaven. I pray all this in Jesus's name. 866 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 2: Amen. 867 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 1: You know if you again prayed that prayer from your 868 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,280 Speaker 1: heart to God's I believe God hurt your prayer. 869 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 2: And you know what. 870 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: The Bible says that God so loved the world in 871 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: John three point sixteen, that he gave has only begotten son, 872 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 1: that whosoever believes in him would not perish but have 873 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: ever lasting night. And in Romans ten, verse nine, it 874 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 1: says if you confess with your mouth that Jesus Lord, 875 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: and believe in your heart that God raised him from 876 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: the dead, you will be saved. Best thing you can 877 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 1: do right now is tell someone and then commit to 878 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: serving God for the rest of your life. He'll give 879 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: you the strength to do it. I believe that if 880 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: you're struggling with hopelessness, you'd say, tim, it's so dark. 881 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 2: I don't even know. I don't even know if I 882 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 2: can do that. I don't know where to turn, I 883 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 2: don't know what to do. Helpe, You'll pick up the 884 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 2: phone and talk. 885 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 1: To someone on the suicide hotline. 886 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 2: That's simple. 887 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 1: Just down nine eight eight on your phone and start 888 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: a conversation. Hey, before we go, Maybe God's gifted you 889 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: with the heart to help other people. Hope you're consider 890 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,280 Speaker 1: being a part of a mental health coach first respond 891 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: to training program you can enroll right now on your 892 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: way to becoming a board certified mental health coach. 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I'm 902 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: doctor Tim Clinton. As always, thanks for watching. See you 903 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: next week right here on Sunday The Road Forward on 904 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 1: Real America's Voice. 905 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 5: Hey, by God, co