WEBVTT - Kali Reis on Making History as an Afro-Indigenous Actor

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<v Speaker 1>Hey fam, Hello Sunshine.

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<v Speaker 2>Today on the bright Side, we're joined by women's boxing

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<v Speaker 2>World champion, Emmy nominated actress and writer Kaylee Mcquinninogg Reese.

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<v Speaker 2>Can the mindset of a champion carry from the ring

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<v Speaker 2>to the screen?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll find out. It's Tuesday, August twentieth.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Danielle Robe and I'm Simone Boyce and this is

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<v Speaker 3>the bright Side from Hello Sunshine, a daily show where

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<v Speaker 3>we come together to share women's stories, laugh, learn and

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<v Speaker 3>brighten your day. Okay, y'all, Today's guest is a barrier

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<v Speaker 3>breaker and a history maker. During her career as a

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<v Speaker 3>professional boxer, Kaylee ko mcquinnanoggu Reese earned six world titles

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<v Speaker 3>and was the first Indigenous woman fighter to become a

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<v Speaker 3>world champion. Most recently, Reese made history by becoming one

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<v Speaker 3>of the first Afro Indigenous actors to be nominated for

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<v Speaker 3>an Emmy for her supporting role in the HBO series

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<v Speaker 3>True Detective Night Country.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>If you haven't watched the season of the show, Reese,

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<v Speaker 3>who stars alongside Jodi Foster, plays the role of Evangeline Navarro.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a state trooper investigating a cold case and the

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<v Speaker 3>disappearance of a group of Arctic scientists. What I loved

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<v Speaker 3>about this season is that it immersed us in a

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<v Speaker 3>culture and a subculture that we don't often get to see,

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<v Speaker 3>and the way that they brought it to life on

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<v Speaker 3>the screen was just so rich and dynamic and layered.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we're used to the leads in that show

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<v Speaker 2>being men. This season it was women, So it was

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<v Speaker 2>cool to watch. And Kaylee's a woman of many talents.

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<v Speaker 2>She's one of those people that just will not be stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>She and her five siblings were raised by their mother

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<v Speaker 2>in East Providence, Rhode Island. At just thirteen years old,

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<v Speaker 2>she found refuge from a tumultuous adolescence in the boxing ring.

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<v Speaker 2>She went on to win nineteen fights during her career,

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<v Speaker 2>five by knockout, and in twenty eighteen, she made history

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<v Speaker 2>when she participated in HBO's first ever women's televised fight.

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<v Speaker 3>And even though Reese has already earned an Emmy nom,

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<v Speaker 3>she's actually relatively new to Hollywood, which is so surprising.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, before True Detective Reese had only appeared in

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<v Speaker 3>two films before she was cast for the show, and

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<v Speaker 3>the HBO series marked her entry into TV.

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<v Speaker 4>Acting, and in.

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<v Speaker 2>Real life, she's an active supporter of the Missing and

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<v Speaker 2>Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls Movement, which combats the widespread

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<v Speaker 2>issue of violence against Indigenous people. So her advocacy in

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<v Speaker 2>the Native community led her to co write and act

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<v Speaker 2>in the twenty twenty one film Catch the Fair One,

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<v Speaker 2>which told the story of a boxer searching for her

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<v Speaker 2>missing younger sister. That performance, which was her acting debut,

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<v Speaker 2>earned her an Independent Spirit Award nomination.

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<v Speaker 3>So after the break, Kaylee Reese tells us how she

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<v Speaker 3>went from boxing champion to Emmy nominated actor and how

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<v Speaker 3>she's bringing her activism to the screen and beyond.

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<v Speaker 5>Stay with us, Kaylee become to the bright side.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so happy to have you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we've been looking forward to this for a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Kayleie mquinnanogue Reese, correct, good job, Thank you. Will you

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<v Speaker 3>tell us the meaning of your Native American name?

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<v Speaker 6>So, my Native American name it means many feathers and

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<v Speaker 6>many talents, and I got it given to me by

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<v Speaker 6>my mother.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, how do you just so naturally embody that like

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<v Speaker 3>you are?

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<v Speaker 6>That My mom's very special, So she must have known

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<v Speaker 6>I was just destined for this journey.

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<v Speaker 4>I had no idea what she would have gave me

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<v Speaker 4>a heads up, right, But it's all good. It's it's

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<v Speaker 4>all blessings.

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<v Speaker 2>Indigenous traditions and stories are so deep and there's so

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<v Speaker 2>much resilience in them. A lot of times, is there

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<v Speaker 2>a specific teaching or story that you grew up with

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<v Speaker 2>that your mom told you that sticks out to you.

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<v Speaker 6>The stories of how strong and how our society and

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<v Speaker 6>how our people are so matriarchal, and how our women

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<v Speaker 6>are so sacred, and where the strength and the backbone

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<v Speaker 6>of our people. That's something that she my grandmother, great grandmother,

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<v Speaker 6>and all the women and all the aunties aunties and

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<v Speaker 6>all the moms and mama bears I had around, they

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<v Speaker 6>really instilled in me of how strong we are and

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<v Speaker 6>where the strength of our people comes from. And even

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<v Speaker 6>the men in the tribe and our people were always

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<v Speaker 6>constant reminders. But my mom, even without saying words, was

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<v Speaker 6>just you know where we come from. You know we

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<v Speaker 6>come from where. Anawan's people, which was masasi Osumikin, was

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<v Speaker 6>a great leader of the Wapamog people.

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<v Speaker 4>And he had a war chief named Anaalon.

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<v Speaker 6>He used to say autash, which needs means stand strong

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<v Speaker 6>to our people, and that's where we come from, a

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<v Speaker 6>warrior of people.

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<v Speaker 4>I had to actually tattooed on my back autash.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's just kind of like a constant reminder of

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<v Speaker 6>how we have to just always stand strong.

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<v Speaker 4>You know where you come from. I do know where

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<v Speaker 4>I come from. I'm so proud of it.

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<v Speaker 1>To what my question is is where are you going?

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<v Speaker 2>Because that many feathers, many talents could take you a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of places. Yes, you just got an Emmy nomination

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<v Speaker 2>for True Detective Night Country.

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<v Speaker 4>Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes it is huge, And it's just that's a good

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<v Speaker 6>question where I'm going because I have no idea, but

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<v Speaker 6>I know that I'll be prepared for it. So whatever

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<v Speaker 6>I get put in front of me, whatever blessings I

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<v Speaker 6>get with other opportunities I get.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a workhorse.

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<v Speaker 6>I know I got I have the capability to do it,

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<v Speaker 6>and if I think I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll figure it out, man, I'll figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>So I will say I have a question about the

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<v Speaker 2>Emmy nomination because I think awards mean different things to

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<v Speaker 2>different people. We've talked to some people on the show

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<v Speaker 2>that were like it was validation some people said, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really care. It's just something to hang on my wall.

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<v Speaker 2>What does it mean to you.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, just to be nominated, especially in this such

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<v Speaker 6>a special time for Indigenous storytellers and creators and just

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<v Speaker 6>Indigenous people and whole. I don't think about it as

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<v Speaker 6>a me thing. It's more like a wee thing, and

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<v Speaker 6>it's just, you know, to be nominated for an Emmy

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<v Speaker 6>alongside Gladstone as well. She's also Indigenous, but I I

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<v Speaker 6>just said this, like, we are both Indigenous, from two

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<v Speaker 6>totally different areas to totally different tribes nations. She has

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<v Speaker 6>a different story than I do, but we are there together,

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<v Speaker 6>and she blew the hinges off the doors getting nominated

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<v Speaker 6>for an Oscar. We're in a golden globe and we're

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<v Speaker 6>holding it open, so we're bringing everybody in. And then

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<v Speaker 6>to be kind of checking a few different boxes as well,

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<v Speaker 6>because I'm not just Indigenous, I'm kepe verning as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm from New England and I'm from Island.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm from you know, seaconk Wapanoog from the first Contact people.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's like a couple of boxes to be checked.

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<v Speaker 6>Being mixed black Indigenous, you know, that's just so many

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<v Speaker 6>things to talk about that I'm in a position to

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<v Speaker 6>talk about with such confidence. I mean, that'd be go

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<v Speaker 6>to win. But I'm not just to be here, to

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<v Speaker 6>be able to you know, be in these conversations and

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<v Speaker 6>then I'm just excited for what this could.

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<v Speaker 4>Lead to for the collective kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>This role though, playing a detective, an Afro Indigenous detective,

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<v Speaker 3>this is this is a really personal role for you,

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<v Speaker 3>not just because of your own heritage, but also because

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<v Speaker 3>of some of the experiences that you've had with police.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it is. It was a very weird experience.

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<v Speaker 6>So back in twenty twelve, I got badly assaulted by

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<v Speaker 6>a Providence police officer doing my job. So I had

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<v Speaker 6>bad PTSD from it. I went through a really dark

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<v Speaker 6>time in my life with it. It was right after

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<v Speaker 6>a bad motorcycle accident, so I had a really bad experience.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, use derogatory language towards me, racist, sexist, all

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<v Speaker 6>the above. So I had to do a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>work getting myself out of that. So to put on

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<v Speaker 6>a police officer uniform, to have to play that and

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<v Speaker 6>then be an indigenous black indigenous mix, it was definitely

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<v Speaker 6>a visceral kind of a cathartic type of thing, but

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<v Speaker 6>I knew it needed to be done because there are

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of especially women police officers and Native police

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<v Speaker 6>officers that have to live that every day.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really interesting that just the act itself of putting

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<v Speaker 3>on the uniform brings up conversations and complex emotions for

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<v Speaker 3>people in your community.

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<v Speaker 6>It was very, very rad I even had a couple

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<v Speaker 6>of conversations with some of the other Indigenous women on set,

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<v Speaker 6>and they already they kind of gave me that look like, yeah, how.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you feel.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, I don't really know right now, like, but

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<v Speaker 6>I know. It actually gave me a really good character work.

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<v Speaker 6>I built a whole backstory for the Navarro and the

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<v Speaker 6>reason why she even got into the military and then

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<v Speaker 6>made the decision to be a police officer was a

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<v Speaker 6>It was a kind of a two part answer necessity

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<v Speaker 6>and because she is kind of good at that type

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<v Speaker 6>of thing, So it gave me kind of a it

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<v Speaker 6>was a real feeling for my character too, of like

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<v Speaker 6>I gotta put this uniform on, man, like one of

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<v Speaker 6>those things that But the uniform doesn't make Navarro. It's

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<v Speaker 6>just something she reals very well, and she commands respect

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<v Speaker 6>and authority, but she doesn't command it in a disrespectful

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<v Speaker 6>I'm better than you way. It's like, listen, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 6>to do the best I can for us, you know

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<v Speaker 6>what I mean, her, her sister, for her in our

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<v Speaker 6>community that she doesn't really know if she's accepted by.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a lot of Navarro soul layers. It's a a

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<v Speaker 6>never running onion of layers of Navarro layers.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a world champion boxer. I'm sort of struck by

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that this encounter with this police officer put

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<v Speaker 2>you into such a tail spin, like it's so upsetting

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<v Speaker 2>to hear did you press charges?

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<v Speaker 4>I actually did.

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<v Speaker 6>We come to find out he was an older police

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<v Speaker 6>officer and he had been assaulting just regular patron since

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<v Speaker 6>the year I was born, oh since eighty six. Because

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<v Speaker 6>there was quite a few people, a lot of women,

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<v Speaker 6>who came forward and said he did some things that

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<v Speaker 6>he wasn't supposed to put hands on people, was using

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<v Speaker 6>excessive force, and every time they went forward with trying

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<v Speaker 6>to press charges, they'd get threatened by his colleagues and

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<v Speaker 6>they'd get scared into not pressing charges. That happened to me.

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<v Speaker 6>Hence the reason why I went into a hole. I

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<v Speaker 6>was like a full blown alcoholic moved away from home

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<v Speaker 6>because after that happened to me, his colleagues would like

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<v Speaker 6>follow me from work and follow me car I was

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<v Speaker 6>getting harassed and so I was a little nervous, but

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a fighter at heart, so I was like, he's

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<v Speaker 6>not going to punk me out of pressing charges.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just followed through.

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<v Speaker 6>And then he had a book of all these different

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<v Speaker 6>names of people that he assaulted, and we went forward,

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<v Speaker 6>got fired and I actually got a whole thank you

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<v Speaker 6>from the city of Providen.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, thank you for following through. We got rid

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<v Speaker 4>of them. Kind of a thing.

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<v Speaker 6>And I hope you watch True Detective. This is a

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<v Speaker 6>big few to you. I look better in the uniform

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<v Speaker 6>than you do.

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<v Speaker 4>Elly.

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<v Speaker 2>That takes real strength, mental and physical toughness.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a doozy, but it's just another story that

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<v Speaker 6>no matter how far down you think you are, it's

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<v Speaker 6>not You don't got to stay there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something that you said about boxing that I want

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you about. You described it as your ceremony

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<v Speaker 2>and your prayer.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you mean by that?

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<v Speaker 6>So, as you know an indigenous person and just kind

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<v Speaker 6>of how I grew up. Everybody has their medicine. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>your medicine could be you the best fry cooker at

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<v Speaker 6>Burger King, and you just you get a certain type

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<v Speaker 6>of energy. Energy doesn't have any prejudice, doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 6>certain language.

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<v Speaker 4>It speaks.

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<v Speaker 6>It speaks to everybody in a certain way. So if

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<v Speaker 6>you when you do something, whatever you love to do,

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<v Speaker 6>whether it's put your hair up in the morment, it

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<v Speaker 6>just gives you that really good high energy, high vibration,

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<v Speaker 6>that's your medicine. Fighting again, is always been in my blood,

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<v Speaker 6>and it wasn't the act of the violence. It was

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<v Speaker 6>the art of it and the fact that okay, I

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<v Speaker 6>can get better at this. There's a skill you have

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<v Speaker 6>to have here. It's not just anger. You actually have

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<v Speaker 6>to be really grounded and calm to fight. The more

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<v Speaker 6>angry you are, you can't you get clouded. So more

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<v Speaker 6>and more I found kind of like this solace in

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<v Speaker 6>boxing found me at a time where I really needed it.

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<v Speaker 6>I found it was my medicine. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 6>fast forward to when I went professional, and then I

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<v Speaker 6>really want to try to find my purpose in it,

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<v Speaker 6>making the decision and making my culture part of my entrances.

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<v Speaker 6>I just knew how powerful and how proud I was.

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<v Speaker 6>Whenever I hate the pow wow drum, I'm like, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I can come out to biggie or something,

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<v Speaker 6>but what means something to me? This is really important

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<v Speaker 6>to me. That's when I started coming out with dancers

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<v Speaker 6>and drummers. I came here at California a few times

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<v Speaker 6>and I asked, first of all his protocol, like tribal area,

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<v Speaker 6>thank you for having me in your territory. Who he

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<v Speaker 6>is here that wants to be part of this with

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<v Speaker 6>me to sing their song to represent I don't tell

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<v Speaker 6>them what to sing, like you're gonna sing fancy shawl

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<v Speaker 6>dance and I want to push ups and all this

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<v Speaker 6>other stuff. It was like, listen, this is a ceremony.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm fighting for my people, so to be able to

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<v Speaker 6>do that, have our dance be displayed not as a spectacle,

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<v Speaker 6>but as proud as people we are. And that's what

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<v Speaker 6>I mean about my ceremony, my prayer, and just the

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<v Speaker 6>energy and the intention I put behind fighting again.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes I want to get the win, Yes I want

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<v Speaker 4>to get the belts.

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<v Speaker 6>That's great, but the representation I have as this platform is.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, people see me as an athlete. There's not

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of native athletes out There's not a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of capabrity athletes out there, a mixed person at such

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<v Speaker 6>as myself. So that is my prayer to have representation,

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<v Speaker 6>have those children and I have those people, even older

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<v Speaker 6>people that like, wow, oh my god, she's on TV.

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<v Speaker 6>She looks like me, she's from where we're from. That's

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<v Speaker 6>what I mean about our prayer. There's hope, there's ceremony

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<v Speaker 6>in it, and we you know, we have a meeting

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<v Speaker 6>behind everything, and that's just my strength and I'm good

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<v Speaker 6>at something. Why not bring positive attention to it.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to take another quick break, but we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>right back with Kaylee Reese.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're back with Kaylee Reese. So you're a world

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<v Speaker 3>champion boxer. Tell me what happens next. How do you

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<v Speaker 3>get into acting?

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<v Speaker 4>By the grace of the creator, I have no idea, Like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 6>How I even got into it was the director writer

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<v Speaker 6>of the first movie I did call Catch the Fair One,

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<v Speaker 6>splitting my DM on Instagram. Honestly, I've always meant interested

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<v Speaker 6>in acting. It's never been something that I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I'm going to grow up and be in Hollywood

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<v Speaker 4>and me an actor brock.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know, my mom and grandmother us to put

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<v Speaker 6>me in a little plays and I had this little character.

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<v Speaker 6>Used to do it for my mother when she came

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<v Speaker 6>home from work.

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<v Speaker 4>But what was the character?

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<v Speaker 6>Her name is Mary and she smoked a peck and

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<v Speaker 6>every day of Dylan and gather a little duncan down't's

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<v Speaker 6>cool feet?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 6>I used to like dress up in her hot clothes

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<v Speaker 6>like and she used to. I still do it now.

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<v Speaker 6>Her name is me How old were you?

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<v Speaker 4>And I had to be like I don't know, seven

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<v Speaker 4>or eight.

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<v Speaker 6>I always love people watching and I would just like

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<v Speaker 6>there's a come farms is like as a Rhode Island

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<v Speaker 6>like a gas station, and like can you go to

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<v Speaker 6>companies and get me ladge dunking in the Pakistani Like

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<v Speaker 6>like I just used to watch these people around the

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<v Speaker 6>neighborhood and just like you know, just imitate.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's it's my mom's do marry do marry? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>This this director reached out to me the point of

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<v Speaker 6>my life where I was. Boxing has always been an

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<v Speaker 6>outlet for me. It's it's taken a lot, but it's

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<v Speaker 6>given me a lot. I've missed birthdays, holidays, my mom's wedding,

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<v Speaker 6>but I was in New Zealand fighting for a world title, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>It's given me a lot, but I've traveled the world

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<v Speaker 6>and it's actually led me into acting. But he caught

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<v Speaker 6>me a time where I was really vulnerable and I

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<v Speaker 6>was in a weird spot because we had just lost

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<v Speaker 6>one of my brothers to brain cancer, and it was

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<v Speaker 6>a spot where boxing was our thing.

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<v Speaker 4>He was my biggest fan.

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<v Speaker 6>I brought him to the gym after he was in

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<v Speaker 6>remission to get his motor skills back.

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<v Speaker 4>How was our thing? So it was just not doing

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<v Speaker 4>it for me and I was just trying to find

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<v Speaker 4>a way to grieve.

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<v Speaker 6>And he kind and I was like for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, all right, boxing didn't have a longevity and

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<v Speaker 6>I need to do something. I always have a plan

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<v Speaker 6>a through z and you know, I'll figure it out

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<v Speaker 6>kind of a thing. But acting just kept poking at

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<v Speaker 6>me like I don't know where to start, Like what

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<v Speaker 6>do you do? Like auditions had no idea, but this

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<v Speaker 6>meant for me, it'll find me. A week later, he

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<v Speaker 6>inboxed me on Instagram, like I'm like, who's this creep?

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<v Speaker 6>But he's just like, you know, I'm so and so

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<v Speaker 6>you've ever thought about acting? And I'm like, yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 6>thought about it. But he's like, I have this script.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a direct he did check out yet a feature film.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a TV director, really successful. He just got to

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<v Speaker 6>know me, and I was like, you know, in a

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<v Speaker 6>weird place. He just came to the house. We did

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<v Speaker 6>a couple of interviews. I read a script. Never read

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<v Speaker 6>a script. I'm like, oh, this is cool. I've never

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<v Speaker 6>acted in my life, but I understand the art of storytelling.

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<v Speaker 6>What happened was I read the script, became interviewed me,

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<v Speaker 6>and I was like, well, dude, I'm training for a fight,

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<v Speaker 6>so you can interview me. But I go O the

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<v Speaker 6>jemas far and he came with me and he like

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<v Speaker 6>whatever he saw, He's like, I see something. And from

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<v Speaker 6>there he asked me to help him write this story.

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<v Speaker 6>And then I'm like, I got ideas and I'll give

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<v Speaker 6>you all the experiences that I've had from based around

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<v Speaker 6>missing murder indigenous women. But that's when he started incorporating

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<v Speaker 6>my real life into this story.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to give everyone a little context that role

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about was a boxer in the film Catch

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<v Speaker 2>the Fair One, and you play an Indigenous woman who's

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<v Speaker 2>searching for her missing sister, which is fictional, but as

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<v Speaker 2>you said, you brought some of your real life experiences

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<v Speaker 2>to it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And as far as the acting goes, he we

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<v Speaker 6>would like practice different scenes.

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<v Speaker 4>He had a friend of his that was an actor.

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<v Speaker 6>We just did some bouncing off back and forth and

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<v Speaker 6>he would give me all his knowledge he knew about acting,

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<v Speaker 6>and then I was like, okay, so, but he kept saying,

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<v Speaker 6>you got it, k you got you got the you

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<v Speaker 6>got the sauce. I'm like, way sauce sweets ausa. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>what do you mean. He's like, you got something. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>like okay. And I knew from him saying that sometimes

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<v Speaker 6>you only need that one person see something.

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<v Speaker 4>You might not understand it. But he said.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, well, if you believe it, and I

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<v Speaker 6>see that look in your face and all right, So

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want to let you down.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm just gonna go hard.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll do my best, And that's really how I got

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<v Speaker 6>into acting, and from there I got nominated for Best

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<v Speaker 6>Actress Since at the Spirit Indie Spirit Awards for that

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<v Speaker 6>is a huge deal, which is a huge on my

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<v Speaker 6>first and it was the intention behind it was just

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<v Speaker 6>let's tell this story the right way.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the most recent data I could find was

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<v Speaker 2>from twenty sixteen and it said that in the US

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<v Speaker 2>about six thousand Indigenous women and girls were reported missing

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<v Speaker 2>or murdered, but only one hundred and sixteen of those

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<v Speaker 2>cases were logged by the US Department of Justices federal database,

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<v Speaker 2>only one hundred and sixteen. And those stats are probably

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<v Speaker 2>much lower than the reality because so many cases go unreported.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's reported.

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<v Speaker 6>To talk about the reported part first, you know, I've heard,

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<v Speaker 6>not experienced, but I heard because I've sat down with

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of survivors, a lot of families of these victims,

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<v Speaker 6>and sometimes they have to be strategic on do we

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<v Speaker 6>even report that she's missing, because number one, the authorities

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<v Speaker 6>will say, well, she's probably just drunk somewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, she's probably just ran away victim blaming.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, or sometimes it may be that the true, but

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<v Speaker 6>why are they running away or she we were just

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<v Speaker 6>reporter as white, because a reporter as Native, they're not

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<v Speaker 6>going to look for her. And then it becomes a

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<v Speaker 6>thing of jurisdiction. If it's a sovereignation whose jurisdiction doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>fall under is it federal, is its state?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it tribal?

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<v Speaker 6>Those types of really really complicated things, and then logged wise,

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<v Speaker 6>whose job is it who handles these special missing cases

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<v Speaker 6>of Native people, especially when it's a Native girl who's

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<v Speaker 6>registered to a sovereign nation, a federally recognized tribe.

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<v Speaker 4>That gets really complicated.

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<v Speaker 6>And then you get to the kind of elephant in

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<v Speaker 6>the room their native and no one cares, you know

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<v Speaker 6>what I mean, no one really cares about them because

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<v Speaker 6>first of all, the average person thinks that Native American

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<v Speaker 6>people Indigenous people are like ex thinks like we're dinosaurs

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<v Speaker 6>and that we all live in tepees, which is insanity,

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<v Speaker 6>or we all live on reservations and everybody's a drunk

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<v Speaker 6>and we go to the casinos. That's getting better, But

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<v Speaker 6>when it comes to the reporting in these stats, there's

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of organizations, grass through organizations that have to

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<v Speaker 6>take it into their own hands because there's nobody looking

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<v Speaker 6>for their loved ones.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's really sad.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a label that that Native people are expendable and

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<v Speaker 6>that we are in the past and that we don't

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<v Speaker 6>matter kind of a thing. I think that has a

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<v Speaker 6>lot to do with it. And then when we have

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<v Speaker 6>that context, it trickles down to the people, to the kids. Oh,

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<v Speaker 6>we don't matter, nobody's going to look for us, so

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<v Speaker 6>we need to run away. And there's so many things

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<v Speaker 6>that going to what I can think about why hence

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<v Speaker 6>the reason why when we made this film, Well, I

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<v Speaker 6>gave him the information I had. I said, this is real.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the reality of this. There's no happy there's

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<v Speaker 6>very few happy endings. It's an epidemic that's been happening

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<v Speaker 6>that needs to stop and something needs to be implemented.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's why I'm so loud about it because I'm

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<v Speaker 6>trying to make it a big deal, because it is

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<v Speaker 6>a big effing deal, Like we need to highlight this

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<v Speaker 6>and the fact that there's not databases, there's things being

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<v Speaker 6>implemented now because of things like hashtag and iw missing

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<v Speaker 6>and more Indigenous women that had to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish we didn't have to have that happen.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's just an epidemic that is an unexplainable.

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<v Speaker 4>Sad, very frustrating problem that we have here.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think, you know, it has a lot to

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<v Speaker 6>do with the invisibility of Native people as a whole.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just really something that needs to change, and it

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<v Speaker 6>is changing.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you feel empowered by the work that you're doing, though,

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<v Speaker 3>because you really are at the intersection of art and

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<v Speaker 3>activism through the stories that you're telling on screen.

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<v Speaker 4>I do.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's funny because I don't really I call myself

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<v Speaker 6>an activist. A lot of people call me that, and

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, okay, I can see that, But I know activists,

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<v Speaker 6>and I know the grassroots people that are boots on

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<v Speaker 6>the ground, working tirelessly, working with families directly, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>having these organizations.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm more of a mouthpiece.

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<v Speaker 6>I believe that it's very empowering that I do get

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<v Speaker 6>to speak about things like this that people don't normally

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<v Speaker 6>hear about that. News channels don't necessarily want to dive

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<v Speaker 6>into that. Podcasts don't want that. Film doesn't really want

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<v Speaker 6>to dive into. Now it's like a oh, okay, great,

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<v Speaker 6>I want to tell stories that matter like Marvel's great,

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<v Speaker 6>But you know when Marvel did echo something like that

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<v Speaker 6>the highlight Indigenous stories.

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<v Speaker 4>I do feel really empowered.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel very, very blessed to be in the position

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<v Speaker 6>I am because I represent so much and the fact

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<v Speaker 6>that I'm in something that everybody watches movies, everybody loves

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<v Speaker 6>to be entertain But if there's a I'll say, I

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<v Speaker 6>call my Dave Chappelle way of kind of like learning

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<v Speaker 6>them in with some comedy, learning men with music or entertainment,

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<v Speaker 6>and then dropping some knowledge on some real and real

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<v Speaker 6>heavy stuff that maybe we're not so fun to talk about,

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<v Speaker 6>right initially, like, I feel really empowered and really blessed

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<v Speaker 6>to be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you mentioned comedy. I actually hear that you want

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<v Speaker 3>to do comedy.

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<v Speaker 4>I do. What kind of comedy are we talking?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you got thinking on?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know Native people of Funny's House stories.

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<v Speaker 6>I would love to do something with with like a

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<v Speaker 6>native comedy. There's so there's so much out there right now.

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<v Speaker 6>It's but like plays, there's this there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>we're funny people.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, those are really untapped stories, Like we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>heard those stories.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's funny in Indian country.

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<v Speaker 6>There's all kinds of movies and shows and comedians that

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<v Speaker 6>are hilarious, but it's not mainstream. We have humor to

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<v Speaker 6>get us through all the bullshit that we've been through. Like,

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<v Speaker 6>we love to laugh, we love to tell stories. There's

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<v Speaker 6>and there's so many stories like I can make a

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<v Speaker 6>movie about one night out a cup, like I swear

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<v Speaker 6>I could. Yeah, So those types of stories of life experience.

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<v Speaker 6>I would love to do something like that. The things

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<v Speaker 6>that we laugh about amongst ourselves, those types of stories

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<v Speaker 6>that I'm like, no, this is funny. The fact that

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<v Speaker 6>Reservation Dogs highlighted the movie Willow, and I was obsessed

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<v Speaker 6>with Willow my entire life as a kid. It's like,

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<v Speaker 6>oh my god, I feel seen like those types of things,

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<v Speaker 6>It's like awesome. I would love to.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you had conversations with people about pursuing comedy, because

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like one thing that happens in Hollywood is

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<v Speaker 3>like people start to know you for doing one sort

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<v Speaker 3>of thing, and then you've got to like really be

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<v Speaker 3>intentional about pivoting and have you started having those conversations.

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<v Speaker 6>Every chance I get that, people ask me, like, because

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<v Speaker 6>clearly I do darkness and death and really intense.

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<v Speaker 3>Dreams, so much more than that. I know you can

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<v Speaker 3>do so much more than that.

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<v Speaker 6>So I know what I could do. And obviously the

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<v Speaker 6>physicality of being like an action hero. It's great and

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<v Speaker 6>I know I got that down. So I do have

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<v Speaker 6>those conversations frequently. So I'm like, oh, no, I want

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<v Speaker 6>to do comedy, like dude, I want to do like

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<v Speaker 6>action of core like drama of course, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 6>do have every chance I get, like sitting down at

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<v Speaker 6>take away tet. So, guys, I wanted to like a

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<v Speaker 6>k action comedy.

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<v Speaker 4>You'd be so good in that. That would be awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>Mix it all yes, mix it all up.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, have a really serious final question.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what was tough for boxing Jessica Kamara or the

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<v Speaker 2>arctic conditions you were in filming True Detective.

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<v Speaker 6>Boxing Jessica Kamara. Man, that's we are friends and congratulations therea.

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<v Speaker 6>She just won the WBA in term defeating mey CHOI.

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<v Speaker 6>But I will say I'm not taking anything away from Jessica,

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<v Speaker 6>but I was in a really health pit in twenty

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<v Speaker 6>twenty two, so fighting her not to mention.

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<v Speaker 4>She's a fierce.

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<v Speaker 6>Fighter anyway, and I knew that going in. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>we friends, holdie, but we gotta put it on the line.

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<v Speaker 6>So I knew it was gonna be a great fight.

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<v Speaker 6>But the fact that my health was in the toilet.

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<v Speaker 6>That was I had to dig down to the depths

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<v Speaker 6>of hell and onother dimension to get through that fight.

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<v Speaker 6>Like I'm sitting on the stool and I had literally

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<v Speaker 6>nothing left, and I'm watching the roundcod girl go by

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<v Speaker 6>and she's holding up round four.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh shit.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh god, how am I gonna do this? Like that

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<v Speaker 6>was tough, but that's the one thing I was willing

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<v Speaker 6>to die. And I'm not kidding, I was willing to die.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, well, if this is how I go, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>gonna go out swinging kind of a thing. But I

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<v Speaker 6>was like, I'm not gonna stop until I can't swing anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's what that was.

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<v Speaker 4>That was hard. I can't believe you have to fight

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<v Speaker 4>your friends. This is something I never thought about.

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<v Speaker 3>I never thought about the fact that you might be

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<v Speaker 3>in the ring with the Psychologically that is such a

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<v Speaker 3>head trip.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was cool because I know she's bringing and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I know she's she can, she can hit hard,

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<v Speaker 4>she's skilled, she listened, she's in condition.

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<v Speaker 6>But I want that. I don't want to fight the

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<v Speaker 6>person I can beat. I want to fight the person

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<v Speaker 6>people think they're gonna beat me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>See, that's the opposite of most boxer's mentality though, because

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<v Speaker 2>they just want to run up there.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I don't need Instagram files. I'm a stupid pad

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<v Speaker 6>work again. Oh my god, I got this pretty thing on.

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<v Speaker 6>It's funny because until I had my manager and promoted,

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<v Speaker 6>I was fighting in the same short, same taped up

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<v Speaker 6>shoes like I'm like, yo, just put the.

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<v Speaker 4>Gloves on, ring the bell. I don't care like just

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to fight kind of a thing.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's how you can tell it difference between a

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<v Speaker 6>fighter now it's fights. Fighting box sounds a little different

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<v Speaker 6>now as you can tell it different. You can't teach heart.

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<v Speaker 6>You know. I'm not the most skilled fighter, but I

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<v Speaker 6>got heart, I got dog, I got warrior, and I'll

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<v Speaker 6>figure it out. There's a lot of fighters out there

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<v Speaker 6>now that if things aren't going their way in the

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<v Speaker 6>ring and then that things aren't perfect, you can mentally

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<v Speaker 6>see them break down. I won't name any fighters, well,

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<v Speaker 6>you can see people, men and women, fighters breakdown when

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<v Speaker 6>things are all flashy and not the sunglass, the pretty thist,

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<v Speaker 6>the pretty that you can tell a difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Hayley, thank you for bringing that fighting spirit to the

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<v Speaker 2>bright side. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Haylee Reese was the first Indigenous woman fighter to become

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<v Speaker 3>a World champion and was the first Afro Indigenous actor

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<v Speaker 3>to be nominated for an Emmy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for today's show.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow, it's time for another Wellness Wednesday. We're joined by

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<v Speaker 2>gastar entrologist doctor Robin Hutkan to talk gut health, antibiotics

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<v Speaker 2>and probiotics. Listen and follow the bright Side on the

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<v Speaker 2>iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Simone Boye.

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<v Speaker 1>b A. Y.

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<v Speaker 4>See you tomorrow, folks. Keep looking on the bright side.