1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Hey fam, Hello Sunshine. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: Today on the bright Side, we're joined by women's boxing 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: World champion, Emmy nominated actress and writer Kaylee Mcquinninogg Reese. 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 2: Can the mindset of a champion carry from the ring 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: to the screen? 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: We'll find out. It's Tuesday, August twentieth. 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: I'm Danielle Robe and I'm Simone Boyce and this is 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: the bright Side from Hello Sunshine, a daily show where 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 3: we come together to share women's stories, laugh, learn and 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: brighten your day. Okay, y'all, Today's guest is a barrier 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: breaker and a history maker. During her career as a 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 3: professional boxer, Kaylee ko mcquinnanoggu Reese earned six world titles 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 3: and was the first Indigenous woman fighter to become a 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: world champion. Most recently, Reese made history by becoming one 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: of the first Afro Indigenous actors to be nominated for 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: an Emmy for her supporting role in the HBO series 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: True Detective Night Country. 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: Now. 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: If you haven't watched the season of the show, Reese, 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: who stars alongside Jodi Foster, plays the role of Evangeline Navarro. 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: She's a state trooper investigating a cold case and the 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: disappearance of a group of Arctic scientists. What I loved 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 3: about this season is that it immersed us in a 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: culture and a subculture that we don't often get to see, 25 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: and the way that they brought it to life on 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: the screen was just so rich and dynamic and layered. 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're used to the leads in that show 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: being men. This season it was women, So it was 29 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 2: cool to watch. And Kaylee's a woman of many talents. 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: She's one of those people that just will not be stopped. 31 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: She and her five siblings were raised by their mother 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: in East Providence, Rhode Island. At just thirteen years old, 33 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: she found refuge from a tumultuous adolescence in the boxing ring. 34 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: She went on to win nineteen fights during her career, 35 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: five by knockout, and in twenty eighteen, she made history 36 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: when she participated in HBO's first ever women's televised fight. 37 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: And even though Reese has already earned an Emmy nom, 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: she's actually relatively new to Hollywood, which is so surprising. 39 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: I mean, before True Detective Reese had only appeared in 40 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 3: two films before she was cast for the show, and 41 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: the HBO series marked her entry into TV. 42 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 4: Acting, and in. 43 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: Real life, she's an active supporter of the Missing and 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls Movement, which combats the widespread 45 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: issue of violence against Indigenous people. So her advocacy in 46 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: the Native community led her to co write and act 47 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty one film Catch the Fair One, 48 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: which told the story of a boxer searching for her 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: missing younger sister. That performance, which was her acting debut, 50 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: earned her an Independent Spirit Award nomination. 51 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: So after the break, Kaylee Reese tells us how she 52 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: went from boxing champion to Emmy nominated actor and how 53 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: she's bringing her activism to the screen and beyond. 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 5: Stay with us, Kaylee become to the bright side. 55 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 4: Thank you very much, thanks for having me. 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: We're so happy to have you. 57 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been looking forward to this for a minute. 58 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 3: Kayleie mquinnanogue Reese, correct, good job, Thank you. Will you 59 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: tell us the meaning of your Native American name? 60 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 6: So, my Native American name it means many feathers and 61 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 6: many talents, and I got it given to me by 62 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 6: my mother. 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: Well, how do you just so naturally embody that like 64 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 3: you are? 65 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 6: That My mom's very special, So she must have known 66 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 6: I was just destined for this journey. 67 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 4: I had no idea what she would have gave me 68 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: a heads up, right, But it's all good. It's it's 69 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 4: all blessings. 70 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: Indigenous traditions and stories are so deep and there's so 71 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: much resilience in them. A lot of times, is there 72 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: a specific teaching or story that you grew up with 73 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: that your mom told you that sticks out to you. 74 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 6: The stories of how strong and how our society and 75 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 6: how our people are so matriarchal, and how our women 76 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 6: are so sacred, and where the strength and the backbone 77 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 6: of our people. That's something that she my grandmother, great grandmother, 78 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 6: and all the women and all the aunties aunties and 79 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 6: all the moms and mama bears I had around, they 80 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 6: really instilled in me of how strong we are and 81 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 6: where the strength of our people comes from. And even 82 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 6: the men in the tribe and our people were always 83 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 6: constant reminders. But my mom, even without saying words, was 84 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 6: just you know where we come from. You know we 85 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 6: come from where. Anawan's people, which was masasi Osumikin, was 86 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 6: a great leader of the Wapamog people. 87 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 4: And he had a war chief named Anaalon. 88 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 6: He used to say autash, which needs means stand strong 89 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 6: to our people, and that's where we come from, a 90 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 6: warrior of people. 91 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 4: I had to actually tattooed on my back autash. 92 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 6: So it's just kind of like a constant reminder of 93 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 6: how we have to just always stand strong. 94 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: You know where you come from. I do know where 95 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 4: I come from. I'm so proud of it. 96 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: To what my question is is where are you going? 97 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 2: Because that many feathers, many talents could take you a 98 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: lot of places. Yes, you just got an Emmy nomination 99 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: for True Detective Night Country. 100 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: Congratulations. 101 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 6: Yes it is huge, And it's just that's a good 102 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 6: question where I'm going because I have no idea, but 103 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 6: I know that I'll be prepared for it. So whatever 104 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 6: I get put in front of me, whatever blessings I 105 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 6: get with other opportunities I get. 106 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 4: I'm a workhorse. 107 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 6: I know I got I have the capability to do it, 108 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 6: and if I think I don't. 109 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 4: I'll figure it out, man, I'll figure it out. 110 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: So I will say I have a question about the 111 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: Emmy nomination because I think awards mean different things to 112 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: different people. We've talked to some people on the show 113 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: that were like it was validation some people said, I 114 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 2: don't really care. It's just something to hang on my wall. 115 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: What does it mean to you. 116 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 6: You know, just to be nominated, especially in this such 117 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 6: a special time for Indigenous storytellers and creators and just 118 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 6: Indigenous people and whole. I don't think about it as 119 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 6: a me thing. It's more like a wee thing, and 120 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 6: it's just, you know, to be nominated for an Emmy 121 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 6: alongside Gladstone as well. She's also Indigenous, but I I 122 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 6: just said this, like, we are both Indigenous, from two 123 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 6: totally different areas to totally different tribes nations. She has 124 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 6: a different story than I do, but we are there together, 125 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 6: and she blew the hinges off the doors getting nominated 126 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 6: for an Oscar. We're in a golden globe and we're 127 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 6: holding it open, so we're bringing everybody in. And then 128 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 6: to be kind of checking a few different boxes as well, 129 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 6: because I'm not just Indigenous, I'm kepe verning as well. 130 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 4: I'm from New England and I'm from Island. 131 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 6: I'm from you know, seaconk Wapanoog from the first Contact people. 132 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 6: So that's like a couple of boxes to be checked. 133 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 6: Being mixed black Indigenous, you know, that's just so many 134 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 6: things to talk about that I'm in a position to 135 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 6: talk about with such confidence. I mean, that'd be go 136 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 6: to win. But I'm not just to be here, to 137 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 6: be able to you know, be in these conversations and 138 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 6: then I'm just excited for what this could. 139 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 4: Lead to for the collective kind of thing. 140 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: This role though, playing a detective, an Afro Indigenous detective, 141 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: this is this is a really personal role for you, 142 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: not just because of your own heritage, but also because 143 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 3: of some of the experiences that you've had with police. 144 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 4: Yes, it is. It was a very weird experience. 145 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 6: So back in twenty twelve, I got badly assaulted by 146 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 6: a Providence police officer doing my job. So I had 147 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 6: bad PTSD from it. I went through a really dark 148 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 6: time in my life with it. It was right after 149 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 6: a bad motorcycle accident, so I had a really bad experience. 150 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 6: You know, use derogatory language towards me, racist, sexist, all 151 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 6: the above. So I had to do a lot of 152 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 6: work getting myself out of that. So to put on 153 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 6: a police officer uniform, to have to play that and 154 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 6: then be an indigenous black indigenous mix, it was definitely 155 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 6: a visceral kind of a cathartic type of thing, but 156 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 6: I knew it needed to be done because there are 157 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 6: a lot of especially women police officers and Native police 158 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 6: officers that have to live that every day. 159 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: It's really interesting that just the act itself of putting 160 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: on the uniform brings up conversations and complex emotions for 161 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: people in your community. 162 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 6: It was very, very rad I even had a couple 163 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 6: of conversations with some of the other Indigenous women on set, 164 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 6: and they already they kind of gave me that look like, yeah, how. 165 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 4: Do you feel. 166 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't really know right now, like, but 167 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 6: I know. It actually gave me a really good character work. 168 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 6: I built a whole backstory for the Navarro and the 169 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 6: reason why she even got into the military and then 170 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 6: made the decision to be a police officer was a 171 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 6: It was a kind of a two part answer necessity 172 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 6: and because she is kind of good at that type 173 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 6: of thing, So it gave me kind of a it 174 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 6: was a real feeling for my character too, of like 175 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 6: I gotta put this uniform on, man, like one of 176 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 6: those things that But the uniform doesn't make Navarro. It's 177 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 6: just something she reals very well, and she commands respect 178 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 6: and authority, but she doesn't command it in a disrespectful 179 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 6: I'm better than you way. It's like, listen, I'm trying 180 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 6: to do the best I can for us, you know 181 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 6: what I mean, her, her sister, for her in our 182 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 6: community that she doesn't really know if she's accepted by. 183 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 6: There's a lot of Navarro soul layers. It's a a 184 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 6: never running onion of layers of Navarro layers. 185 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: You're a world champion boxer. I'm sort of struck by 186 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: the fact that this encounter with this police officer put 187 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 2: you into such a tail spin, like it's so upsetting 188 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: to hear did you press charges? 189 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 4: I actually did. 190 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 6: We come to find out he was an older police 191 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 6: officer and he had been assaulting just regular patron since 192 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 6: the year I was born, oh since eighty six. Because 193 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 6: there was quite a few people, a lot of women, 194 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 6: who came forward and said he did some things that 195 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 6: he wasn't supposed to put hands on people, was using 196 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 6: excessive force, and every time they went forward with trying 197 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 6: to press charges, they'd get threatened by his colleagues and 198 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 6: they'd get scared into not pressing charges. That happened to me. 199 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 6: Hence the reason why I went into a hole. I 200 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 6: was like a full blown alcoholic moved away from home 201 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 6: because after that happened to me, his colleagues would like 202 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 6: follow me from work and follow me car I was 203 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 6: getting harassed and so I was a little nervous, but 204 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 6: I'm a fighter at heart, so I was like, he's 205 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 6: not going to punk me out of pressing charges. 206 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: So I just followed through. 207 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 6: And then he had a book of all these different 208 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 6: names of people that he assaulted, and we went forward, 209 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 6: got fired and I actually got a whole thank you 210 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 6: from the city of Providen. 211 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 4: It's like, thank you for following through. We got rid 212 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 4: of them. Kind of a thing. 213 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 6: And I hope you watch True Detective. This is a 214 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 6: big few to you. I look better in the uniform 215 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 6: than you do. 216 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 4: Elly. 217 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: That takes real strength, mental and physical toughness. 218 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 4: Yeah it was. 219 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 6: It was a doozy, but it's just another story that 220 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 6: no matter how far down you think you are, it's 221 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 6: not You don't got to stay there. 222 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: There's something that you said about boxing that I want 223 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: to ask you about. You described it as your ceremony 224 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: and your prayer. 225 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 4: What do you mean by that? 226 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 6: So, as you know an indigenous person and just kind 227 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 6: of how I grew up. Everybody has their medicine. I mean, 228 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 6: your medicine could be you the best fry cooker at 229 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 6: Burger King, and you just you get a certain type 230 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 6: of energy. Energy doesn't have any prejudice, doesn't have a 231 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 6: certain language. 232 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 4: It speaks. 233 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 6: It speaks to everybody in a certain way. So if 234 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 6: you when you do something, whatever you love to do, 235 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 6: whether it's put your hair up in the morment, it 236 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 6: just gives you that really good high energy, high vibration, 237 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 6: that's your medicine. Fighting again, is always been in my blood, 238 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 6: and it wasn't the act of the violence. It was 239 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 6: the art of it and the fact that okay, I 240 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 6: can get better at this. There's a skill you have 241 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 6: to have here. It's not just anger. You actually have 242 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 6: to be really grounded and calm to fight. The more 243 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 6: angry you are, you can't you get clouded. So more 244 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 6: and more I found kind of like this solace in 245 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 6: boxing found me at a time where I really needed it. 246 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 6: I found it was my medicine. And then you know, 247 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 6: fast forward to when I went professional, and then I 248 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 6: really want to try to find my purpose in it, 249 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 6: making the decision and making my culture part of my entrances. 250 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 6: I just knew how powerful and how proud I was. 251 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 6: Whenever I hate the pow wow drum, I'm like, all right, well, 252 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 6: you know, I can come out to biggie or something, 253 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 6: but what means something to me? This is really important 254 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 6: to me. That's when I started coming out with dancers 255 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 6: and drummers. I came here at California a few times 256 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 6: and I asked, first of all his protocol, like tribal area, 257 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 6: thank you for having me in your territory. Who he 258 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 6: is here that wants to be part of this with 259 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 6: me to sing their song to represent I don't tell 260 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 6: them what to sing, like you're gonna sing fancy shawl 261 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 6: dance and I want to push ups and all this 262 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 6: other stuff. It was like, listen, this is a ceremony. 263 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 6: I'm fighting for my people, so to be able to 264 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 6: do that, have our dance be displayed not as a spectacle, 265 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 6: but as proud as people we are. And that's what 266 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 6: I mean about my ceremony, my prayer, and just the 267 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 6: energy and the intention I put behind fighting again. 268 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 4: Yes I want to get the win, Yes I want 269 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 4: to get the belts. 270 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 6: That's great, but the representation I have as this platform is. 271 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 6: You know, people see me as an athlete. There's not 272 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 6: a lot of native athletes out There's not a lot 273 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 6: of capabrity athletes out there, a mixed person at such 274 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 6: as myself. So that is my prayer to have representation, 275 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 6: have those children and I have those people, even older 276 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 6: people that like, wow, oh my god, she's on TV. 277 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 6: She looks like me, she's from where we're from. That's 278 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 6: what I mean about our prayer. There's hope, there's ceremony 279 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 6: in it, and we you know, we have a meeting 280 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 6: behind everything, and that's just my strength and I'm good 281 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 6: at something. Why not bring positive attention to it. 282 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: We have to take another quick break, but we'll be 283 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: right back with Kaylee Reese. 284 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: And we're back with Kaylee Reese. So you're a world 285 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: champion boxer. Tell me what happens next. How do you 286 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 3: get into acting? 287 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 4: By the grace of the creator, I have no idea, Like, honestly, 288 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 4: you know. 289 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 6: How I even got into it was the director writer 290 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 6: of the first movie I did call Catch the Fair One, 291 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 6: splitting my DM on Instagram. Honestly, I've always meant interested 292 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 6: in acting. It's never been something that I'm. 293 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 4: Like I'm going to grow up and be in Hollywood 294 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 4: and me an actor brock. 295 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 6: But you know, my mom and grandmother us to put 296 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 6: me in a little plays and I had this little character. 297 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 6: Used to do it for my mother when she came 298 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 6: home from work. 299 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 4: But what was the character? 300 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 6: Her name is Mary and she smoked a peck and 301 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 6: every day of Dylan and gather a little duncan down't's 302 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 6: cool feet? 303 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: Now? 304 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 6: I used to like dress up in her hot clothes 305 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 6: like and she used to. I still do it now. 306 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 6: Her name is me How old were you? 307 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 4: And I had to be like I don't know, seven 308 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 4: or eight. 309 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 6: I always love people watching and I would just like 310 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 6: there's a come farms is like as a Rhode Island 311 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 6: like a gas station, and like can you go to 312 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 6: companies and get me ladge dunking in the Pakistani Like 313 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 6: like I just used to watch these people around the 314 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 6: neighborhood and just like you know, just imitate. 315 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,239 Speaker 4: But it's it's my mom's do marry do marry? Yeah? 316 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 6: This this director reached out to me the point of 317 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 6: my life where I was. Boxing has always been an 318 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 6: outlet for me. It's it's taken a lot, but it's 319 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 6: given me a lot. I've missed birthdays, holidays, my mom's wedding, 320 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 6: but I was in New Zealand fighting for a world title, you. 321 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 5: Know what I mean. 322 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 6: It's given me a lot, but I've traveled the world 323 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 6: and it's actually led me into acting. But he caught 324 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 6: me a time where I was really vulnerable and I 325 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 6: was in a weird spot because we had just lost 326 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 6: one of my brothers to brain cancer, and it was 327 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 6: a spot where boxing was our thing. 328 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 4: He was my biggest fan. 329 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 6: I brought him to the gym after he was in 330 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 6: remission to get his motor skills back. 331 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 4: How was our thing? So it was just not doing 332 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: it for me and I was just trying to find 333 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 4: a way to grieve. 334 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 6: And he kind and I was like for whatever reason, 335 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, boxing didn't have a longevity and 336 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 6: I need to do something. I always have a plan 337 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 6: a through z and you know, I'll figure it out 338 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 6: kind of a thing. But acting just kept poking at 339 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 6: me like I don't know where to start, Like what 340 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 6: do you do? Like auditions had no idea, but this 341 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 6: meant for me, it'll find me. A week later, he 342 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 6: inboxed me on Instagram, like I'm like, who's this creep? 343 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 6: But he's just like, you know, I'm so and so 344 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 6: you've ever thought about acting? And I'm like, yeah, I've 345 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 6: thought about it. But he's like, I have this script. 346 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 6: He's a direct he did check out yet a feature film. 347 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 6: He's a TV director, really successful. He just got to 348 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 6: know me, and I was like, you know, in a 349 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 6: weird place. He just came to the house. We did 350 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 6: a couple of interviews. I read a script. Never read 351 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 6: a script. I'm like, oh, this is cool. I've never 352 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 6: acted in my life, but I understand the art of storytelling. 353 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 6: What happened was I read the script, became interviewed me, 354 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 6: and I was like, well, dude, I'm training for a fight, 355 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 6: so you can interview me. But I go O the 356 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 6: jemas far and he came with me and he like 357 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 6: whatever he saw, He's like, I see something. And from 358 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 6: there he asked me to help him write this story. 359 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 6: And then I'm like, I got ideas and I'll give 360 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 6: you all the experiences that I've had from based around 361 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 6: missing murder indigenous women. But that's when he started incorporating 362 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 6: my real life into this story. 363 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: I want to give everyone a little context that role 364 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: you're talking about was a boxer in the film Catch 365 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: the Fair One, and you play an Indigenous woman who's 366 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: searching for her missing sister, which is fictional, but as 367 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: you said, you brought some of your real life experiences 368 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: to it. 369 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, And as far as the acting goes, he we 370 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 6: would like practice different scenes. 371 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: He had a friend of his that was an actor. 372 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 6: We just did some bouncing off back and forth and 373 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 6: he would give me all his knowledge he knew about acting, 374 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 6: and then I was like, okay, so, but he kept saying, 375 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 6: you got it, k you got you got the you 376 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 6: got the sauce. I'm like, way sauce sweets ausa. I'm like, 377 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 6: what do you mean. He's like, you got something. I'm 378 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 6: like okay. And I knew from him saying that sometimes 379 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 6: you only need that one person see something. 380 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 4: You might not understand it. But he said. 381 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 6: I was like, well, if you believe it, and I 382 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 6: see that look in your face and all right, So 383 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 6: I don't want to let you down. 384 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna go hard. 385 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 6: I'll do my best, And that's really how I got 386 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 6: into acting, and from there I got nominated for Best 387 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 6: Actress Since at the Spirit Indie Spirit Awards for that 388 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 6: is a huge deal, which is a huge on my 389 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 6: first and it was the intention behind it was just 390 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 6: let's tell this story the right way. 391 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: I mean, the most recent data I could find was 392 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: from twenty sixteen and it said that in the US 393 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: about six thousand Indigenous women and girls were reported missing 394 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: or murdered, but only one hundred and sixteen of those 395 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 2: cases were logged by the US Department of Justices federal database, 396 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: only one hundred and sixteen. And those stats are probably 397 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: much lower than the reality because so many cases go unreported. 398 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's reported. 399 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 6: To talk about the reported part first, you know, I've heard, 400 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 6: not experienced, but I heard because I've sat down with 401 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 6: a lot of survivors, a lot of families of these victims, 402 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 6: and sometimes they have to be strategic on do we 403 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 6: even report that she's missing, because number one, the authorities 404 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 6: will say, well, she's probably just drunk somewhere. 405 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 4: Well, she's probably just ran away victim blaming. 406 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, or sometimes it may be that the true, but 407 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 6: why are they running away or she we were just 408 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 6: reporter as white, because a reporter as Native, they're not 409 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 6: going to look for her. And then it becomes a 410 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 6: thing of jurisdiction. If it's a sovereignation whose jurisdiction doesn't 411 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 6: fall under is it federal, is its state? 412 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 4: Is it tribal? 413 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 6: Those types of really really complicated things, and then logged wise, 414 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 6: whose job is it who handles these special missing cases 415 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 6: of Native people, especially when it's a Native girl who's 416 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 6: registered to a sovereign nation, a federally recognized tribe. 417 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 4: That gets really complicated. 418 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 6: And then you get to the kind of elephant in 419 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 6: the room their native and no one cares, you know 420 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 6: what I mean, no one really cares about them because 421 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 6: first of all, the average person thinks that Native American 422 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 6: people Indigenous people are like ex thinks like we're dinosaurs 423 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 6: and that we all live in tepees, which is insanity, 424 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 6: or we all live on reservations and everybody's a drunk 425 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 6: and we go to the casinos. That's getting better, But 426 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 6: when it comes to the reporting in these stats, there's 427 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 6: a lot of organizations, grass through organizations that have to 428 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 6: take it into their own hands because there's nobody looking 429 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 6: for their loved ones. 430 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really sad. 431 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 6: There's a label that that Native people are expendable and 432 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 6: that we are in the past and that we don't 433 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 6: matter kind of a thing. I think that has a 434 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 6: lot to do with it. And then when we have 435 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 6: that context, it trickles down to the people, to the kids. Oh, 436 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 6: we don't matter, nobody's going to look for us, so 437 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 6: we need to run away. And there's so many things 438 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 6: that going to what I can think about why hence 439 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 6: the reason why when we made this film, Well, I 440 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 6: gave him the information I had. I said, this is real. 441 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 6: This is the reality of this. There's no happy there's 442 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 6: very few happy endings. It's an epidemic that's been happening 443 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 6: that needs to stop and something needs to be implemented. 444 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 6: And that's why I'm so loud about it because I'm 445 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 6: trying to make it a big deal, because it is 446 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 6: a big effing deal, Like we need to highlight this 447 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 6: and the fact that there's not databases, there's things being 448 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 6: implemented now because of things like hashtag and iw missing 449 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 6: and more Indigenous women that had to happen. 450 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 4: I wish we didn't have to have that happen. 451 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just an epidemic that is an unexplainable. 452 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 4: Sad, very frustrating problem that we have here. 453 00:19:58,560 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 6: And I think, you know, it has a lot to 454 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 6: do with the invisibility of Native people as a whole. 455 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 6: It's just really something that needs to change, and it 456 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 6: is changing. 457 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: Do you feel empowered by the work that you're doing, though, 458 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: because you really are at the intersection of art and 459 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 3: activism through the stories that you're telling on screen. 460 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 4: I do. 461 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 6: And it's funny because I don't really I call myself 462 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 6: an activist. A lot of people call me that, and 463 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, I can see that, But I know activists, 464 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 6: and I know the grassroots people that are boots on 465 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 6: the ground, working tirelessly, working with families directly, you know, 466 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 6: having these organizations. 467 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 4: I'm more of a mouthpiece. 468 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 6: I believe that it's very empowering that I do get 469 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 6: to speak about things like this that people don't normally 470 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 6: hear about that. News channels don't necessarily want to dive 471 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 6: into that. Podcasts don't want that. Film doesn't really want 472 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 6: to dive into. Now it's like a oh, okay, great, 473 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 6: I want to tell stories that matter like Marvel's great, 474 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 6: But you know when Marvel did echo something like that 475 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 6: the highlight Indigenous stories. 476 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 4: I do feel really empowered. 477 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 6: I feel very, very blessed to be in the position 478 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 6: I am because I represent so much and the fact 479 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 6: that I'm in something that everybody watches movies, everybody loves 480 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 6: to be entertain But if there's a I'll say, I 481 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 6: call my Dave Chappelle way of kind of like learning 482 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 6: them in with some comedy, learning men with music or entertainment, 483 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 6: and then dropping some knowledge on some real and real 484 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 6: heavy stuff that maybe we're not so fun to talk about, 485 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 6: right initially, like, I feel really empowered and really blessed 486 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 6: to be able to do that. 487 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned comedy. I actually hear that you want 488 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 3: to do comedy. 489 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 4: I do. What kind of comedy are we talking? 490 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 3: What do you got thinking on? 491 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 6: I mean, you know Native people of Funny's House stories. 492 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 6: I would love to do something with with like a 493 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 6: native comedy. There's so there's so much out there right now. 494 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 6: It's but like plays, there's this there's a lot of 495 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 6: we're funny people. 496 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: You're right, those are really untapped stories, Like we haven't 497 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: heard those stories. 498 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: You know, it's funny in Indian country. 499 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 6: There's all kinds of movies and shows and comedians that 500 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 6: are hilarious, but it's not mainstream. We have humor to 501 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 6: get us through all the bullshit that we've been through. Like, 502 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 6: we love to laugh, we love to tell stories. There's 503 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 6: and there's so many stories like I can make a 504 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 6: movie about one night out a cup, like I swear 505 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 6: I could. Yeah, So those types of stories of life experience. 506 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 6: I would love to do something like that. The things 507 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 6: that we laugh about amongst ourselves, those types of stories 508 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 6: that I'm like, no, this is funny. The fact that 509 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 6: Reservation Dogs highlighted the movie Willow, and I was obsessed 510 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 6: with Willow my entire life as a kid. It's like, 511 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 6: oh my god, I feel seen like those types of things, 512 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 6: It's like awesome. I would love to. 513 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 3: Have you had conversations with people about pursuing comedy, because 514 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 3: I feel like one thing that happens in Hollywood is 515 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 3: like people start to know you for doing one sort 516 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 3: of thing, and then you've got to like really be 517 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 3: intentional about pivoting and have you started having those conversations. 518 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 6: Every chance I get that, people ask me, like, because 519 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 6: clearly I do darkness and death and really intense. 520 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: Dreams, so much more than that. I know you can 521 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: do so much more than that. 522 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 6: So I know what I could do. And obviously the 523 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 6: physicality of being like an action hero. It's great and 524 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 6: I know I got that down. So I do have 525 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 6: those conversations frequently. So I'm like, oh, no, I want 526 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 6: to do comedy, like dude, I want to do like 527 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 6: action of core like drama of course, but yeah, I 528 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 6: do have every chance I get, like sitting down at 529 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 6: take away tet. So, guys, I wanted to like a 530 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 6: k action comedy. 531 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 4: You'd be so good in that. That would be awesome. 532 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 4: Mix it all yes, mix it all up. 533 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: Okay, have a really serious final question. 534 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: Okay, what was tough for boxing Jessica Kamara or the 535 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 2: arctic conditions you were in filming True Detective. 536 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 6: Boxing Jessica Kamara. Man, that's we are friends and congratulations therea. 537 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 6: She just won the WBA in term defeating mey CHOI. 538 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 6: But I will say I'm not taking anything away from Jessica, 539 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 6: but I was in a really health pit in twenty 540 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 6: twenty two, so fighting her not to mention. 541 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 4: She's a fierce. 542 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 6: Fighter anyway, and I knew that going in. I'm like, 543 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 6: we friends, holdie, but we gotta put it on the line. 544 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 6: So I knew it was gonna be a great fight. 545 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 6: But the fact that my health was in the toilet. 546 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 6: That was I had to dig down to the depths 547 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 6: of hell and onother dimension to get through that fight. 548 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 6: Like I'm sitting on the stool and I had literally 549 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 6: nothing left, and I'm watching the roundcod girl go by 550 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 6: and she's holding up round four. 551 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh shit. 552 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 6: Oh god, how am I gonna do this? Like that 553 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 6: was tough, but that's the one thing I was willing 554 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 6: to die. And I'm not kidding, I was willing to die. 555 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 6: I'm like, well, if this is how I go, I'm 556 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 6: gonna go out swinging kind of a thing. But I 557 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 6: was like, I'm not gonna stop until I can't swing anymore. 558 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 6: And that's what that was. 559 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 4: That was hard. I can't believe you have to fight 560 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 4: your friends. This is something I never thought about. 561 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: I never thought about the fact that you might be 562 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: in the ring with the Psychologically that is such a 563 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: head trip. 564 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 4: But it was cool because I know she's bringing and 565 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 4: I'm like, I know she's she can, she can hit hard, 566 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 4: she's skilled, she listened, she's in condition. 567 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 6: But I want that. I don't want to fight the 568 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 6: person I can beat. I want to fight the person 569 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 6: people think they're gonna beat me. 570 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 571 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: See, that's the opposite of most boxer's mentality though, because 572 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: they just want to run up there. 573 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 6: No, I don't need Instagram files. I'm a stupid pad 574 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 6: work again. Oh my god, I got this pretty thing on. 575 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 6: It's funny because until I had my manager and promoted, 576 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 6: I was fighting in the same short, same taped up 577 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 6: shoes like I'm like, yo, just put the. 578 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 4: Gloves on, ring the bell. I don't care like just 579 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 4: I just want to fight kind of a thing. 580 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 6: So that's how you can tell it difference between a 581 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 6: fighter now it's fights. Fighting box sounds a little different 582 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 6: now as you can tell it different. You can't teach heart. 583 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 6: You know. I'm not the most skilled fighter, but I 584 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 6: got heart, I got dog, I got warrior, and I'll 585 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 6: figure it out. There's a lot of fighters out there 586 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 6: now that if things aren't going their way in the 587 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 6: ring and then that things aren't perfect, you can mentally 588 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 6: see them break down. I won't name any fighters, well, 589 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 6: you can see people, men and women, fighters breakdown when 590 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 6: things are all flashy and not the sunglass, the pretty thist, 591 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 6: the pretty that you can tell a difference. 592 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: Hayley, thank you for bringing that fighting spirit to the 593 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: bright side. Thank you. 594 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 3: Haylee Reese was the first Indigenous woman fighter to become 595 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 3: a World champion and was the first Afro Indigenous actor 596 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: to be nominated for an Emmy. 597 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: That's it for today's show. 598 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,239 Speaker 2: Tomorrow, it's time for another Wellness Wednesday. We're joined by 599 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: gastar entrologist doctor Robin Hutkan to talk gut health, antibiotics 600 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 2: and probiotics. Listen and follow the bright Side on the 601 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 602 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 4: I'm Simone Boye. 603 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: You can find me at Simone Boice on Instagram and TikTok. 604 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok. That's r O 605 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: b A. Y. 606 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 4: See you tomorrow, folks. Keep looking on the bright side.