WEBVTT - 2023 Memories and 2024 Predictions with Shane Bacon

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<v Speaker 1>I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When

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<v Speaker 1>I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I find my ball in a Frida Egg

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<v Speaker 2>Friday Egg, the dreaded Friday Friday, Frida Egg brid Egg,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another edition of the Friday Egg Golf Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Andy Johnson. Happy New Year. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>everybody had is off to great start in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you all had a great holiday season in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three. I'm not gonna lie. I'm still kind

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<v Speaker 1>of shaking off the holiday blues. Getting firing back up

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<v Speaker 1>the pod. I was, uh, I was, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was nice. I was excited to check golf

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<v Speaker 1>with Shane Bacon, but I also was I was, like,

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<v Speaker 1>a week off was pretty nice. It had been a

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<v Speaker 1>while since I had kind of a week off of

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<v Speaker 1>off of work. So we're back expecting a really great

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. Shane, who's on the podcast, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be doing more and more with us at Friday Golf,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're really excited about that. And caught up with

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<v Speaker 1>him to talk about a little bit some parting thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on twenty twenty three and then some thoughts on twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, which devolved, you know, into a discussion about

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<v Speaker 1>the broadcast booth for NBC that's opened that I didn't expect,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, brought it up in passing and it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of ended up being a big focal topic of the pod.

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks to Shane for coming on. And before we

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back another new year. Are you a big resolution guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you in New Year's resolution guy?

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<v Speaker 2>No, we we've started doing like extremely attainable things, like

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<v Speaker 2>what's something that's attainable that's not a year long process,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe you want to do a little thing different.

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<v Speaker 2>We lived in this house now andy since twenty March

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty one, so we'll be coming up on three years.

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<v Speaker 2>We've never had like full grass before, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>seated and sold it and all that. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>in this and now with the putting green I have

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<v Speaker 2>in the backyard, there's not a ton of grass to

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<v Speaker 2>do that too. But I told my wife yesterday, my

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote New Year's resolution is to have like a

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<v Speaker 2>grass yard this year. So that's I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 2>extremely attainable. Like we could do that this year.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe maybe you could get a local agronomus

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<v Speaker 1>to stop by and uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, anybody sending my way, please thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you got a lot of shade, they

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<v Speaker 1>might have a different grass recommendation. Try and make your

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<v Speaker 1>life easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would like multiple strains, is what I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>So as we if we could introduce multiple like exactly

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<v Speaker 2>how do I need to like do we need to

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<v Speaker 2>have water more in one part of the yard than

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<v Speaker 2>the other part of the yard. And we're also andy.

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<v Speaker 2>We're also so my kids this year are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be five and two, and we threw around the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of getting a trampoline as their Christmas present, but we

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<v Speaker 2>live in Connecticut. Connecticut, it's not extremely trampoline weather right now,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think we're going to do trampoline like mid

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<v Speaker 2>Mar early April, and so we have also got to

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<v Speaker 2>factor that into the this to the grass. But what

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<v Speaker 2>about you? Are you doing a resolution?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not like a resolution guy. I do

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<v Speaker 1>do make decisions and try and stick with them. Last year,

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<v Speaker 1>I gave up soda. I didn't have a soda all

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<v Speaker 1>year last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Real quick, let me let me interject. Were you a

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<v Speaker 2>what was your soda A choice?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I didn't drink a lot of soda, but oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know. I'm the same way. Like I'll have

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<v Speaker 2>one on an airplane.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have I'll have like a I would have like

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<v Speaker 1>a coke, okay, just a regular regular. I don't do

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<v Speaker 1>the diet stuff. I think the diet coke might be

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<v Speaker 1>worse for you than regular coke. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go down that that rabbit hole. But I just gave

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<v Speaker 1>up soda. It was crazy because like I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>really notice, and then it was like October and I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted a soda one day and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had one of these all year.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, will you bring those back into your life in twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Four I don't think so. I think I'm done with them, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but this year. So something that's stuck with me all year.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year was in the US Open, they interviewed Novak

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<v Speaker 1>Djokovic's wife and they asked what Novak liked to do

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<v Speaker 1>at home, okay, and she was just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he just stretches all the time. And they're like, what

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<v Speaker 1>stretches all the time? They like ask some questions and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, yeah, we'll watch TV stretches the entire time.

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<v Speaker 1>So my kind of this year, my thing's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be like I'm going to really focus on trying to

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<v Speaker 1>stretch every day, just like it's super easy to do,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's super hard to do, right, Like something very attainable.

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<v Speaker 1>But like if I'm just I feel like, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>just more flexible, life is easier. It's easier to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of bed, it's easier to pick up your kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it just there's no excuse either. It's like the

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<v Speaker 1>easiest thing to do in the world. If you're watching TV,

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<v Speaker 1>you could just stretch while you watch TV. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>legitimately the easiest thing to do. I'm gonna try and

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<v Speaker 1>do it, but it's like one of those hard things

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<v Speaker 1>to do well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it pulls you off the couch, right, which

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, the place you want to be if

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<v Speaker 2>you're watching TV. I remember I had I had justin

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<v Speaker 2>so we did an in person podcast last year. I

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<v Speaker 2>get a grip and I think he said four to

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<v Speaker 2>six hours a day he stretches, which again, that's like

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<v Speaker 2>that's like an enormous percentage of the day you're spinning stretching.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, I mean he's a professional athlete like Novak,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, you've got to be focused on your

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<v Speaker 2>body as much as possible. If Tom Brady taught us anything,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it's elasticity in the body is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the more important things in terms of longevity, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's the one thing for me because I

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<v Speaker 2>do a little bit of what you talk about with Novak,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we're upstairs watching you know, Survivor or Amazing Race

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. I'm probably on the floor half

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<v Speaker 2>the show, rolling out on the phone roller or just

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<v Speaker 2>stretching in general and the other But I've been trying

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<v Speaker 2>to I know, you're a runner, so I've been trying

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<v Speaker 2>to Somebody told me that you've got to stretch half

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of time you exercise. So if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go a thirty minute run, you need to stretch fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>minutes before the thirty minute run. I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 2>dedicate myself to that over the last four or five

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<v Speaker 2>six months, and I do notice a completely different change

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<v Speaker 2>to begin the run, not necessarily mid run, late in

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<v Speaker 2>the run, but to start off the run. I do

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm almost warmed up as I've gotten going.

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<v Speaker 1>You stretch before you run, Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like fifteen minutes. I mean, I'll do foam roller, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>do some stretching myself. I've got a couple of stretching

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<v Speaker 2>things that a PT taught me. And then I'll go

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<v Speaker 2>outside and I'll do like hamstring and stretch the legs,

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<v Speaker 2>like just basically my front yard before I get going.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean, as opposed to kind of going

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<v Speaker 2>out there cold run is what I've I've tried to do.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, if anybody hope that this podcast will

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<v Speaker 2>be normal and Andy and I are on it, you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting like eleven minutes of stretching talk to start well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny because you know, you go out to run,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first half mile the run is just like

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like if you take one bad step, the

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<v Speaker 1>run will be over. Yeah, you're gonna break.

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<v Speaker 2>Your grip at acl or something. Yeah yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean especially you, I know you do a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>trail running, you know, so it's like when your trail

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<v Speaker 2>running and obviously step per step is is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not as predictable as like somebody like me who's running

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<v Speaker 2>on the pavement a lot. You know, you just gotta

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<v Speaker 2>be you got to got to keep your eyes in

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<v Speaker 2>wits about you. By the way, trail running and hiking

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<v Speaker 2>I love because I do feel like it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more of a mental workout than just like running,

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<v Speaker 2>like street running like I do most of the time,

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<v Speaker 2>because you're paying a lot of attention to where you're stepping.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when I used to hike camel back when

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<v Speaker 2>I lived in Arizona all the time. You know, it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like thirty five minutes up right, and I'm busting

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<v Speaker 2>my ass and I'm sweating, and I'm tired, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm winded. But I always said going down was my

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<v Speaker 2>mental workout because a wrong step and you might twist

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<v Speaker 2>an ankle or you know, cut an arm or fall

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<v Speaker 2>or do something like that. So it was I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like it was a great kind of mix of both

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<v Speaker 2>those worlds.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the trail I run on a lot, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a it's like a five six hundred foot uh incline

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<v Speaker 1>pretty quick. And what I find is that that it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a it's awful. I'm not gonna lie like you

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<v Speaker 1>do it and you're just like this is this is terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>But the only way to do it is like focus

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<v Speaker 1>on really like breathing. Well, like you it becomes almost

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<v Speaker 1>like meditative, right, because you're so focused on your breath

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get up. But I think, like I

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<v Speaker 1>think it, I've been wondering. I you know, I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>played competitive golf for a while long time, and I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't really played golf for a while now now that

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<v Speaker 1>I think about it, But I think about that breath

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<v Speaker 1>work with golf, Like if you just focus on breathing,

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<v Speaker 1>it helps so much in those high leverage moments in golf, right,

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<v Speaker 1>is like really being able to lock in on how

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<v Speaker 1>you're breathing to keep things normal. Because that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>think sometimes happens when you get nervous, uh or you

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<v Speaker 1>just lose the regularity of your breath and you see

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<v Speaker 1>how how powerful it is when you run up a hill.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like, it's not bad if you focus on the

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<v Speaker 1>break the breathing. It's hard if you lose track of

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<v Speaker 1>your breathing and you lose your breath.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, I mean, I feel like, I mean, as we've

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<v Speaker 2>kind of as pro sports have evolved a lot over

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<v Speaker 2>the last let's call it seven years in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the mental focus as much as maybe the physical focus.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I mean this is NFL players and

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<v Speaker 2>NBA players, right, I mean you hear so much about

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<v Speaker 2>like the work Lebron puts in and the stuff Steph

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<v Speaker 2>does mentally to keep the focus, you know, as he

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<v Speaker 2>gets older. I feel like golf has kind of got

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<v Speaker 2>there as well. I would love to hear more of

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<v Speaker 2>this from pro golfers, by the way, about how they

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<v Speaker 2>go about their process in a golf round. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like we do these do we? I know

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<v Speaker 2>CBS did a great job last year of the like

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<v Speaker 2>on course interviews. I love one of those interviews one

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<v Speaker 2>day this year, it's like, what's the breathing like? Over

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<v Speaker 2>the shot, you know, like, how are you going about

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<v Speaker 2>the breathing technique as you prepared to hit a golf shot?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you do you have a breath hold? Do you?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? Like, because I'm sure they do, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>they're thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I feel like people probably are afraid to ask that,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in one of those settings, because you'd be worried

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<v Speaker 1>that the guy is then started to think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like the Rick Rally book where he talks

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<v Speaker 2>about the guy looking at a shadow over the swing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and you're like, yeah, totally. But I mean again,

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<v Speaker 2>I like that's the space for those types of questions,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd love to get a little bit more in

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<v Speaker 2>depth on that because I you know, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that these these top tier pros do outside of

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<v Speaker 2>just going to the gym, I feel like hasn't totally

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<v Speaker 2>been as explored as maybe I'd like it to be

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<v Speaker 2>or or I haven't read the article yet, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure it's out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think too. Some of them are super secretive about

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<v Speaker 1>what that, like think about Koepka, like, wouldn't tell anybody?

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<v Speaker 1>Still hasn't said it, right, Still hasn't Yeah said what what?

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<v Speaker 1>It was that he.

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<v Speaker 2>Walks slower or something. Right, it was like, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>slow down.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one of the things. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>was to slow down. But he said it was something else,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that that you know, after the Masters, him

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<v Speaker 1>and his buddy stayed up, and you know it was

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<v Speaker 1>his buddy was yelling at him about it. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, like we've seen it with Tiger, Tiger

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<v Speaker 1>is so much more open about his process and himself

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<v Speaker 1>and the way he thinks about the game now, right

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<v Speaker 1>than he was at age thirty three when he earthed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, twenty eight, when he was in his prime,

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<v Speaker 1>just knocking down majors and trying to like inflict harm

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<v Speaker 1>on his competitors, right, Psychological warfare, Andy.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a question before we kind of dive into

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<v Speaker 2>the topic here that we're going to talk about, because

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<v Speaker 2>I know I felt this yesterday, so we're recording this

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<v Speaker 2>on January two. I felt this on New Year's Day

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<v Speaker 2>as we're kind of getting into the college football playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean East Coast person, It's it's five

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<v Speaker 2>pm when the first game starts, right, I miss golf.

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<v Speaker 2>I miss a little bit of golf. It's so wild

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<v Speaker 2>how this happens. You take a few weeks off of

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<v Speaker 2>paying attention to it and watching it all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll be honest with you, I didn't watch any PNC.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I watched a minute of the p

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<v Speaker 2>and C.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you weren't plugged into the Hero.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I watched the second of The Hero.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think I watched literally a second of

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<v Speaker 2>golf in the month of December that was That wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>Q school that I covered. So outside of that, it's

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<v Speaker 2>I've been four or five weeks off, which has made

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<v Speaker 2>me kind of excited about Hawaii, you know, like that's

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<v Speaker 2>why breaks are good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean there's a lot to be excited about

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<v Speaker 1>with the West Coast swing in my opinion, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>include Hawaii in that is the best, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>this to the Masters is the best season for golf.

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<v Speaker 1>People are inside, people have time to watch stuff. People

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<v Speaker 1>aren't You're not competing with people playing golf on the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is like an underrated thing that people

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk about enough. It's like you capture. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>people who watch watch golf like to play golf too,

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<v Speaker 1>Like and.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't work Saturdays and Sundays. Right, this is what

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<v Speaker 2>what a what a what a weird phenomenon there, And

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe you cracked that code.

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<v Speaker 1>So so we're here, we're the like I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the most interesting. Golf is is really key one to

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<v Speaker 1>the masters, right and and I you know, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of great events in the summer, but this

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<v Speaker 1>this time of year is really great. And I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>like I I kind of I'm itching to see golf again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm a little bummed about the ram defection. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he always played well at Cappel And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you think about a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 1>we had that amazing Rom cam Smith duel, which was

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<v Speaker 1>I think one of the better terms. Both of them

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<v Speaker 1>are gone. Now Rory's not going to be there because.

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<v Speaker 2>He watch that battle on the c dub. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can just get just clue into that.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're here. So to kick things off, I figure

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do a part reflection on twenty twenty three, just

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<v Speaker 1>three big picture kind of takeaways from the year, and

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<v Speaker 1>then uh and then we'll dive into some predictions thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on twenty twenty four. So what uh what's your what

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<v Speaker 1>are your takeaways from twenty twenty three?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I had this. It's kind of my last one,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'll start with this just because of what we

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<v Speaker 2>just talked about. I felt like last season golf on

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<v Speaker 2>the men's side was extremely front loaded in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the storylines, and when you go back to early twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three, you know it was our introduction into the

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<v Speaker 2>signature or elevate. I don't know what they're called. What

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<v Speaker 2>do they call now?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they signature this year, signature, signature.

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<v Speaker 2>Elevated signature, They'll change.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll designated, designated or elevated be a signature I'll give you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you over under October one, twenty four that

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<v Speaker 2>has a sponsorship to it. Are you going to take

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<v Speaker 2>the over or the under? So it's not gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be like over.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I think they're gonna try and sell I.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, one one crazy prediction I almost put down

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<v Speaker 1>this is jumping ahead, and I almost said that the

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<v Speaker 1>PGA will change dates by the end of twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be super good, going back to old may

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<v Speaker 2>or sorry, going back to August.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe, Yeah, that's I just I just like I think

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<v Speaker 1>with the private equity money, the PIFF money, there could

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<v Speaker 1>be just like another massive schedule shakeup.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy, Can I say this to that point? Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>MAYPGA stinks. Get it out of my face. There's way

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<v Speaker 2>too many good tournaments bunch together.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it kills the summer. It kills That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It kills every event, every event between. That's not a

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<v Speaker 1>maze between the Masters and the Open.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I couldn't agree with you more. Take it back

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<v Speaker 2>to August. It was nothing wrong with that date, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, not that it was awesome. It was the

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<v Speaker 2>only identity the PJA Championship had pre Blockie was the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that it was the last major, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was Glory's last shot, and that was obviously, you know,

0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.440
<v Speaker 2>crushed and killed like the Western. But I was writing

0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:26.800
<v Speaker 2>that early in the season, we had this new thing

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<v Speaker 2>in golf on the PGA Tour that was really cool

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<v Speaker 2>and unique and different, and it was one of those

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<v Speaker 2>things where you went, why isn't this Why isn't it

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<v Speaker 2>like this all the time? Right? The fact that everybody

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<v Speaker 2>got together and played the same golf tournaments. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you think about like the Tiger Ernie phil Era and

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<v Speaker 2>they would just play random events that the other two

0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:47.760
<v Speaker 2>guys wouldn't be there, and VJ. It's like such a

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<v Speaker 2>bummer that that was the case. But so we got

0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:55.479
<v Speaker 2>Century with Rom Farmers was great, Phoenix Open, Scheffler wins,

0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Rom wins at Riv, Scheffler wins the Players, and then

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<v Speaker 2>ra wins the Masters, and it was literally Andy, if

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<v Speaker 2>you remember, it was like, this is it, man, Like,

0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.680
<v Speaker 2>these are the two best golfers in the world. We're

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<v Speaker 2>getting them playing well week after week after week, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is gonna be twenty twenty three and neither one again.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just crazy that neither of those guys won another

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<v Speaker 2>golf tournament at all, after this incredible run early in

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<v Speaker 2>the year where it felt like we were gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>this juggernaut battle of these two names. So I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>when I look back on twenty twenty three, remembering how

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<v Speaker 2>good those two guys played early in the year and

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<v Speaker 2>how freaking awesome it was watching them go head to head,

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna be was one of my big takeaways, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>from then on. But I mean after that, so Andy,

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<v Speaker 2>after those guys, after the Masters, right, I was looking

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<v Speaker 2>at impactful wins on the PGA Tour were in a

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<v Speaker 2>major championship by certified stars. Okay, these are like the

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<v Speaker 2>guys that you turned the TV on on Saturday and

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday if they're in the Hunt at the PGA, Hoveland

0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:05.600
<v Speaker 2>at the Memorial, Ricky Fowler at the Rocket Mortgage, Rory

0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.480
<v Speaker 2>at the Scottish and then Hoveland goes back to back

0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:13.040
<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs. So you basically had like five impactful

0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:16.680
<v Speaker 2>weeks and you kind of combine the two with Hobland

0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:21.240
<v Speaker 2>there after April. It wasn't a great PGA Tour season

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<v Speaker 2>after the start of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there were a lot of really good tournaments

0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.840
<v Speaker 1>in there, but they weren't star driven because you think

0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:32.680
<v Speaker 1>about like Nick Taylor at Canada, right, like I think

0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:36.720
<v Speaker 1>about the you had Ricky at at the three MS

0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:41.480
<v Speaker 1>or at the Rocket Mortgage, right, you had like great events,

0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:46.600
<v Speaker 1>but not necessarily star driven stuff. I've got two things

0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.160
<v Speaker 1>that kind of play off of that that are two

0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:51.400
<v Speaker 1>of my things. So we'll do a little snake draft here.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that I think, you know, I was just

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the year is Wyndham Clark, Like is he

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<v Speaker 1>a flash in the pan? Or are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>look at him as a late bloomer star, right, is

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<v Speaker 1>he going to be like someone that we look at of, Oh,

0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:12.119
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe Wyndam Clark won that US Open Or

0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:13.880
<v Speaker 1>is it going to be like, oh, that was Wyndham

0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Clark's like big coming out party and he won obviously.

0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:21.919
<v Speaker 1>Wells Fargo also on the way to that, And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like that's a big thing that twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>Like when we go ten years out, what Window Clark

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<v Speaker 1>becomes is actually kind of like kind of a barometer

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<v Speaker 1>I think of twenty twenty three because if he becomes

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<v Speaker 1>like a really good player, like if he becomes a

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Finale, let's just say level player in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>or Andy.

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<v Speaker 2>Or Max, right, I mean, yeah, it's the trajectory is

0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:52.120
<v Speaker 2>kind of on the I mean, he's younger, I think

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:54.479
<v Speaker 2>in terms of making that switch and turning it on

0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:57.360
<v Speaker 2>to what we saw with Max from you know, Corn

0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Ferry Tour to PGA Tour star. But I'd say in

0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:04.600
<v Speaker 2>relative terms, is could he be that? Right to you

0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 2>to your point, could he be a certified top ten superstar?

0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:10.880
<v Speaker 2>You know in the haunt a lot guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a guy that makes multiple team competitions like he

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<v Speaker 1>three Ryder Cup teams or you know, four Ryder Cup teams.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hard, Like I think that's a real barometer. Like

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:24.160
<v Speaker 1>if he becomes that, then I think twenty twenty three

0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:26.960
<v Speaker 1>we look back and we'll be like, Wow, the major

0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:31.639
<v Speaker 1>winners went rom Kepka, Wyndham Clark, and then you'll have

0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Brian Harmon, which I think Brian Harmon is a nice player.

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:36.280
<v Speaker 1>That was a nice story. It was a dominant win.

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<v Speaker 1>But like that, this the major year is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a little bit underwhelming now but could be look back,

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<v Speaker 1>be really good. Yeah, if Wyndham Clark's this late bloomer.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I think like the second thing that you

0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:55.520
<v Speaker 1>hit on with, you know, impactful wins like Lack that

0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:59.760
<v Speaker 1>are of like so going into that that rom Scotti

0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:05.360
<v Speaker 1>was Rory's ridiculous run, right, and I think with Rory,

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you've got this now. Seven in the last eight majors

0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:13.440
<v Speaker 1>he's finished in the top ten, which is crazy consistency.

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Last year Scheffler wins a couple out of the gate,

0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>but then the year is just the putter is not

0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:23.520
<v Speaker 1>really agreeing, but he's hitting the ball better than anybody

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 1>that we've ever seen other than Tiger, right, and he's

0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:30.119
<v Speaker 1>taking this ball and they're both like they're both achieving

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 1>in different ways. This thing that every golfer strives for.

0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 1>It's what Tiger always used to was the barama of

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Tiger's success was he always talked about consistency, and these

0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:47.639
<v Speaker 1>players have become so consistent, yet there's so much frustration

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:51.720
<v Speaker 1>within each of their consistency, like they are putting themselves

0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:55.640
<v Speaker 1>into position. You have to be there to win, right,

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:59.439
<v Speaker 1>Like both of these guys are like, and because of that,

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I could see either of those guys having monster years,

0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:07.720
<v Speaker 1>whether it's from a major standpoint with Rory or a

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 1>major and regular event standpoint with Scotty, just because you

0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 1>have to be there to win. And both of those

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 1>guys in different in different ways, have just been there, right,

0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 1>they just haven't gotten it done.

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you know you you obviously. I mean

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.240
<v Speaker 2>every year is the biggest year for Rory in terms

0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:27.199
<v Speaker 2>of his career, in terms of major championship golf, right,

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean every time we get to the next season

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:31.479
<v Speaker 2>until he wins another one. But for Scotty, you know,

0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:34.479
<v Speaker 2>it's it's kind of sneak getting to that point. I mean,

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, you put yourself in contention this often in

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 2>the big events, and what we are going to be

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:41.400
<v Speaker 2>on what is that two it'll be.

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Two years, he'll be eight. Yeah, he'll be eight. It'll

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 1>be his eighth major.

0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:47.919
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, I mean, I'm sure you have it

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 2>in front of you. How many you know of those

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:53.680
<v Speaker 2>of those seven after his win, we're top five finishes?

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what is it four or five of those?

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Not top five finishes, not.

0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Just top five finishes, but you think about like like

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.720
<v Speaker 1>literally have a chance to win. Yeah, like Brookline, he

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:06.880
<v Speaker 1>was like right there, right there, Lacc was right there

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 1>the PGA at okill really kind of right there. On Saturday,

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>his punter killed him and then he ended up tied

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 1>for second. So yeah, I mean he's been there almost

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 1>every single major.

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 2>We call him front door top fives. Like what's the

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:26.679
<v Speaker 2>term here, because I mean we love backdoor top tens.

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:29.640
<v Speaker 2>What is the what's Scotty's top five situation here?

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:31.919
<v Speaker 1>I think it's got to be just like in the

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 1>something in the in the mixer or something.

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Gotcha, gotcha. It's like like the host table top five

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 2>where you know you got in and you're waiting for

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:40.640
<v Speaker 2>your table to sit down.

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 1>You're in the blender.

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean he was. He's been in the blender a lot.

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this dude is like strawberries. I mean, it

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 2>is unbelievable how often we see him where you know,

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:54.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and he gets like sleepy stuff, or he'll

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:57.919
<v Speaker 2>be he'll be you know, fourth come like midday on

0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Saturday in these majors, and you just go, did Scotty

0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Scheffler come from?

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:05.640
<v Speaker 1>But let's just say, oh yeah, he's like, oh yeah,

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:10.120
<v Speaker 1>he's leading the field and off the tee and approach surprised.

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:12.439
<v Speaker 2>Another Scotty week. But you know, like if you go

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 2>through twenty four and he doesn't win a major, then

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 2>it might start to be a thing, if it's not

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 2>already a thing in his brain. So I think, you know,

0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's not he's not on the same

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 2>he's not not at the same level as Rory in

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:27.879
<v Speaker 2>terms of the importance of majors every time.

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 1>He gets there, but getting there though at.

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Some point he's not getting the ball like God anymore.

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, I mean, I think that's the one of

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the things with with the game right now, and and

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>this year I think added to that is that I

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>think four guys have have really kind of separated themselves

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>as of right now. And it's four guys, So who.

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Is that is? That's that's Scotty, Rom, Rory and and

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Brooks and Brooks okay, right, And those guys are a

0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 2>different plane than kind of everybody else right now, especially

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 2>in majors.

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 1>It feels like those four guys at any type of

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:11.159
<v Speaker 1>golf course you know, are going to be they have

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 1>to be your four favorites, right.

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know you're a Simmons podcast listener. He

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 2>was talking about something with cousin sal this past week

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 2>about the forty nine ers in the Ravens. They said

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 2>that these are two teams that can win in any conditions. Right,

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 2>These are why they're the two best teams in both conferences.

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 2>They can win if it's cold and rainy and crappy,

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 2>they can win, if it's a beautiful seventy five degree day,

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 2>they can win inside, they can win outside those types

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 2>of things. It feels like these four guys are similar

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 2>where you know, you look at some of the courses

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Rory has, I mean, Rory's maybe the outlier in the

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 2>sense because a lot of his wins come on kind

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 2>of the same style golf courses, but we have also

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 2>seen him play well and contend outside of that style

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 2>golf course everywhere. The Old Course isn't quihalo, right, yeah,

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:56.360
<v Speaker 2>And I.

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Think that's like the thing is the last two years

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 1>that consistency and majors at different types of setups, right

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 1>lacc the old course, you know, he played horrendous and finished.

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think, what was it seventh at Okill?

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Those played awful, like you know.

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 2>What I mean, Like I mean Tory, like sneak backdoor,

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 2>sneaks into that at Tory and like has a legit

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 2>chance standing on eleven t to win that US Open.

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's andy. I haven't really thought about that.

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 2>That's a really interesting point about Rory because when you

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 2>when we look back on this Rory run, whatever you

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:35.640
<v Speaker 2>want to call it, his career, his thirties, whatever, it is,

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 2>like his wins were dominant victories. He was just better

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 2>than everybody else, you know, Like when he won those majors,

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 2>he was winning by a million golf shots, like winning

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 2>by eight and a major. Could you imagine somebody doing

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 2>that now? Like just see I mean.

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I think like Harmon was close to that name. Everybody

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>was sh I.

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Mean, like Shane Lowry and Brian Harmon or like the

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 2>two guys I think about when I think about blowout

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 2>major championship victories in recent golf history, right, Rory wins

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 2>two majors by eight just simply better than everybody hit it.

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 2>He hit it farther, he hit it. He was a

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.719
<v Speaker 2>great putter, He was extremely confident, he believed in himself.

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 2>All those things, you know, transfired to these victories early

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 2>in his career. You could make an argument that the

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 2>last two and a half three years in major championship golfer,

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Rory McElroy has been better golf, and he's won the majors,

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 2>but on different golf courses to your point, that ask

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 2>different questions that make you style your game in times

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 2>to what that golf course is asking, and to be

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 2>able to go play well at LACC and play well

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:38.239
<v Speaker 2>at the Old Course and bounce back and forth at

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 2>these places. Really, the only place we haven't seen Rory

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 2>play good golf at the last few years has been

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 2>Augusta Nastional I mean, outside of that styled golf course,

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 2>which you know, I mean he's a threat to win

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 2>therevery year, just simply from the power in the driving.

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 2>But it's just been these other major venues that we've

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 2>seen Rory really display the beauty that we wanted to

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 2>see from Rory. Honestly, Andy, I think a two shots

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 2>from Rory's year this pas last year, the shot into

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 2>the into the last green at the Scottish where he

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 2>scaled down and went to the two iron instead of

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 2>the three iron and hit the cut. And then that

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 2>pitch shot at the Ryder Cup that he hit the

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 2>low fizzor that you know, went about head high open back.

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>To sixty degree. I've tried to hit that. I've tried

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>to hit that so many times. I can't figure it out.

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's such a hard golf shot to pull up.

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>But I think what we might just get up in

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the air. It's like it like rolls up.

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 2>The face and it doesn't check and you're like, oh,

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 2>this is supposed to rip, But you know, like these

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>are these are artistic golf shots. And I feel like

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 2>we've lost at least golf in general has lost the

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 2>idea of Rory as the artist. And Rory is still

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 2>a great artist on the golf course and We've seen

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 2>it on different canvases over the last few years.

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's kind of It's kind of like the maturation

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>of like a great NBA player, where you know, they

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>go from a great scorer to like teams start to

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>blitz them or whatever, send doubles and they might struggle

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 1>to figure it out, but then once they understand it,

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like then sending a second defenders like the worst

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>thing you could do. It's like Lebron, like you just

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to send a second defender at Lebron

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>because and so it's like in golf, like I think,

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>being able to play different styles and in types of

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>golf courses, the idea of like, you know, no golf

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>course not fitting your game, Like you know, we saw

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>it with Brooks, even you know, as great of a

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>major champion as Brooks is, he rolled up to l

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>ACC and after after a round he's like, I just

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>don't like this place. This isn't my kind of major

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 1>championship test. It's like that. That's like a guy saying,

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>you know what, a quarterback in the NFL being like,

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I can't break down zone defenses, right,

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to hear Uh, you know, that's I

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>think where Rory's gone is they haven't come. The wins

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>haven't come, but the consistency, and that's what every go

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>well for once, that's what the you know, I kind

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>of think, so what's your second one?

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 2>So my second one is is recent and just it

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 2>was on my mind when I was thinking about twenty

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 2>twenty three. It's not necessarily the biggest story, but the

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Hayden Springer getting his PGA tour card. I just don't

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 2>think we need to forget it as we get into

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 2>twenty four and I like, I I love Hayden Springer.

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I root for this guy so much. I mean, going

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 2>through that, I can't imagine what it's been like over

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 2>the last three months in his life. And for him

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 2>to go and play as well as he did to

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 2>get his tour card was one of the great stories

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 2>in sports last year.

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I thought, Yeah, so, you know, for anybody that's unaware,

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Hayden Springer went to Q School and Q School's back

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>awarding cards five cards. Shane was on the call, but

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Hayden Springer.

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 2>So saw fun by the way that it's back by

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 2>the way, and yeah, it's just so cool that Q

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 2>school's back.

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 1>A month before Q School, Hayden Springer lost his daughter

0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:00.040
<v Speaker 1>who had been battling a rare disease, you know, and

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>she was what about two or three yep.

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Three, Yeah, Yeah, she was one of one of two

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 2>daughters and they lost her and the doctors had said

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 2>they you know, gave her weeks to live. She lived

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, years, which is incredible. But you know, I

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 2>mean he had to. I mean, this is the guy

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.239
<v Speaker 2>had to talk about it after every round, you know,

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 2>the media, and he was interviewed about it and yet

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 2>still goes out there and played stones golf down the

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 2>stretch especially.

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so amazing story. Definitely somebody uh to favorite on

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>that you know on Uh, it's someone that I think,

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 1>like one of the hard things about pro golf is

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to figure out who you root for totally right,

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Like this is a guy that makes it easy to

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>root for them. Like I think like that's one of

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>the things that Max has done so well with his

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>social media, Like with just the being himself on social

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>media has made him such a fan favorite because it

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>gives somebody a reason to root for him. Oh, like,

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>why do you root for Maxima? I love the way

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>he he is on social media, it seems like a

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 1>great guy, right, Like that's otherwise it's like why why

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>are you in for Kega Bradley? Well, I'm a Red

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Sox fan. Like that's like what you get, right, I mean.

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:16.760
<v Speaker 2>It's your point getting into golf, get into pro golf.

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 2>To attach yourself to someone or multiple players is not

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:21.879
<v Speaker 2>the easiest thing to do.

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, versus like a team is easy to attach yourself totally, right, Like,

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm all right, so my last one from toy Toy three,

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:34.319
<v Speaker 1>I just we're in self improvement season, so I had

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>to call this out. I think this is like a

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>great example of like people get super ambitious this time

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>of year, but it's just like a small focusing on

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 1>small things. Victor Hovelin's evolution, heck, and his ability to

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:53.919
<v Speaker 1>just like hone in and recognize a weakness, recognize something

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>holding him back and do everything he can to turn

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>that around, right and how oh he's become just like

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>a complete player. A I think, like, of all the

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>players that aren't in that top four that I said before,

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to majors, Victor Holn's is the one

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 1>that I would expect most to jump into that and

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe make it like, you know, one of those guys

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 1>that hey anywhere anytime you know someone that is kind

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:24.959
<v Speaker 1>of like a off three prediction type thing. Is what's

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>will z L Tours? You know, that's a question for

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>me because like this time last year, we're probably talking

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>about will z L Tours as one of those major

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>championship specialists, right. But Victor Holn, I mean, he's got

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 1>all the tools now, all the shots, and you have

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>to you could see a really big year from him

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>this year.

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it was It was cool. He seems

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 2>like the kind of guy that wants to be there too,

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:48.760
<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean that's what's been fun to watch.

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Is it seems like he wants to play Rory or

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 2>he wants to play Rom in these moments, you know.

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 2>And I mean I don't know if that was the case.

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 2>You think about Jordan Speed winning majors early in his career,

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.399
<v Speaker 2>and you think about obviously twenty fifteen, that eight year

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:03.240
<v Speaker 2>he had he needed twenty fourteen at the Masters losing

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 2>to Bubba that was an important moment. I think for

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Speed as a young player. I think Victor is

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:11.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of counting these major moments where he's been close.

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Think about Saint Andrew's played terrible, you know, next to

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 2>Rory McElroy on that Sunday. Then he gets to the

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 2>PGA and he played really, really solid.

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 1>He was in the mix of the Masters too. He

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't play great, right, it was.

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:26.720
<v Speaker 2>The pgaight, things changed, right, He played great for fifteen

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 2>holes and then he gets that break in the bunker

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.279
<v Speaker 2>on sixteen. But he was right there. I mean, it

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:33.280
<v Speaker 2>was it was feeling like it might be a playoff

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 2>between him and Koepka, and you know, obviously the season

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.879
<v Speaker 2>continued to that point. I also a lot of the time,

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 2>especially with young players, I'll look at how they played

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 2>after a moment like that where either you won or

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 2>you lost, you know, and it was it's extremely emotional,

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, physical toll, emotional toll, things like that. How'd

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 2>you play after that? And he played excellent, you know,

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 2>he was awesome. It wins the Memorial, wins a couple

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 2>of playoff events, played awesome at the Ryder Cups. So yeah,

0:36:59.880 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you, Victor. Victor I think is the most

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 2>likely candidate to kind of jump into the top five number.

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 1>You said, what's your last one all.

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, I want to give a shout out to the

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 2>LPGA Lily of Vu. I think it's easy to forget

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 2>her ceasing had never won on the LPGA Tour. I

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 2>looked this up. So she was forty first at the

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 2>end of the year last year. Okay, she wins four times,

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:27.760
<v Speaker 2>two majors, becomes world number one. Eric Cole is currently

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 2>forty first on the PGA Tour, or excuse me, on

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 2>the OWGR So it would be like Eric Cole winning

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 2>two majors four times and becoming world number one at

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 2>the end of the year this year in men's golf.

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 2>That's how crazy and out of nowhere it came for

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Lily Vu player of the Year. So I just wanted

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 2>to give a shout out to her season because on

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.920
<v Speaker 2>the men's side it might have felt a little diluted

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 2>after the Masters in terms of anybody having a great season.

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I feel like in golf, Lily a Vu was the

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 2>player that had that great season.

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like other players around Eric Cole, Cam Davis, Harris,

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>English JT posting like all of them would be shocking.

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and if they got to be top five, you'd

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 2>be like, what happened here? You know?

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, it's an amazing that's an amazing story. And

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 1>obviously I think Eric Cole is a great story too, totally.

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>The guy he brought up he was playing minor league

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 1>events that at the beginning of last year, he was

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>playing on the minor league Tour. All right, let's get

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 1>to Toy Toy four. We're gonna add us for a

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 1>couple of predictions. So what do you got for us?

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 2>All right? I think somebody of these three is going

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 2>to return to dominance. I wrote down the three players

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 2>that I feel like all kind of fit the same mold,

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 2>if that makes sense, Andy. So my three here are JT, Jordan,

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 2>and Collin. I feel like all three of those players

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:53.800
<v Speaker 2>are you know, at one point in golf for the

0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 2>best player in golf. Have struggled at times, if not

0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 2>for long stretches over the last years, and I feel

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 2>like with Rom leaving to go to live, it was

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of Rory and everybody else, and I feel

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 2>like Rory could really be helped at by one of

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 2>these guys joining him. And that's not Scotti. Scheffler. I

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 2>love Scheffler. I understand he's one of the best players

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 2>in the world. But in terms of marketing big names

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 2>things like that, in golf, you need a Morikawa, a

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Jordan or a JT to become really really good again.

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 2>And I think one of those is going to have

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 2>a great season. And I think as I look at

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 2>those three names, it feels like Morikawa is that guy.

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's super important for I think it's

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>super important for JT and Jordan just each other to

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 1>them because those guys have that star appeal. I think

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Alum Markawa obviously great player two majors, has accomplished so

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 1>much in such a short period of time, but they

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 1>just don't have the box office appeal of a Jordan

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Speeth or a JT. Right now, Kyle Markawa doesn't. And

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>that's not necessarily it's not a knock against him. I mean,

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:06.279
<v Speaker 1>these guys are have been pros for longer, and we've

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 1>seen it with golf. Like one of the things that

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>golf really thrives with and does better than sports like

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:18.800
<v Speaker 1>the NFL, is creates these long stars, Like think about Rory.

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 1>We are now almost year twenty, like getting close to

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:27.439
<v Speaker 1>year twenty of Rory, right, We're like probably seventeen years

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:32.320
<v Speaker 1>in is sixteen years into Rory. You know, Tiger, We're

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 1>thirty years into Tiger, right, and you know Phil, same thing,

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Like thirty years of Phil, thirty plus years of Phil.

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Like that is what the PGA Tour does so well,

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 1>and it's been something that's kind of like with this

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:50.839
<v Speaker 1>youth invasion has eroded a little bit with the PGA Tour,

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 1>is that we don't like, you know, Adam Scott's kind

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 1>of an afterthought now, right versus you know, in when

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>it was fearic can Phil and Heyday, like this was

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>like you know, early forties was prime time, right, Like.

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Like just justin Rose last year, Andy having the year

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 2>he had was like this crazy outlier moment that used

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 2>to be pretty normal and he was forty yeah right.

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Right right, like that that used to be like okay,

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I mean Phil didn't win a major till what thirty.

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Four, Yeah, thirty three, the thirty three yep.

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So it's like, you know, all these the game

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 1>has changed so much, and I just I do think

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:31.959
<v Speaker 1>this is a big moment for those two because it's

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 1>like are they just second page guys now or are

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 1>they still you know, one of the guys in the sport? Right?

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the that's a big question, and

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I I think for the PGA Tour sake, you know,

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>who knows what this resolution is going to end up

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>being what it's going to look like. But the better

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 1>they play, especially in the beginning of this year while

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 1>these negotiations are going on, is extremely important for the

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 1>sport as a whole. When you talk about men's professional golf,

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about you know, golf in general, recreational golf,

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 1>women's golf, men's men's professional golf. Jordan Speith and JT

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>getting off to good starts this year is very very important.

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I've got I've got I think that I think Pebble

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Beach is going to be one of the best events

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:28.319
<v Speaker 1>of the year.

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I totally agree with you on that.

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 1>That's one of my predictions is that this event is

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.359
<v Speaker 1>going to be We're gonna we're gonna be get done

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:41.800
<v Speaker 1>with that event, the new format with with like seventy players,

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 1>no no celebrities on the weekend, and we're gonna be like,

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 1>why why was this event this way for the last

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 1>thirty years?

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, you know you I remember so when

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 2>we did the twenty nineteen US Open at Pebble Beach.

0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 2>One of my bosses at the time at Fox was

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 2>not a big golfer, and I remember Saturday night we

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:04.239
<v Speaker 2>factioned and I'd got done in our booth, and our

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 2>booth was right by the Beach Club, right there, you know.

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:09.359
<v Speaker 1>I remember stopping by, yeah, yeah, yeh yes, you know it's.

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Right there by four and we walked in. There was

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 2>like a little bit of a get together, and this

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 2>boss came up to me and he was like, hey, man,

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:17.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, you guys did a great job whatever, and

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:19.239
<v Speaker 2>he goes, I got a question for you. Why don't

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 2>think I have the US opened at Pebble Beach every year?

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:23.319
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, well, you know, it's you know,

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:24.799
<v Speaker 2>I kind of went in it. You know, I knew

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 2>what he was saying, like he was he was kind

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:29.240
<v Speaker 2>of joking, right, but I think his point was valid.

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 2>West Coast Primetime Viewing, most beautiful golf course arguably in

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 2>the entire world, awesome venue. I know you've got some

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:38.360
<v Speaker 2>I know you've got some issues in terms of the

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 2>way it needs to be restored, which I probably agree

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 2>with most of your takes there. But even in its

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 2>current you know, rendering, it's still amazing. You know the course,

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 2>you know the holes, you know that front nine stretch.

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Like golf fans, even casual golf fans, know what seven is,

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:53.920
<v Speaker 2>know what eight is, know what seventeen is.

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's I mean, like how many golf

0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 1>courses in the world does do a lot of fans

0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:03.800
<v Speaker 1>know five holes?

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 2>I would say five, three may probably. I don't know

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 2>St Andrews.

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't think people do. I think I think it's

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 1>Augusta Sawgrass and Pebble Beach. Pebble Beach.

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's I mean, you you

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 2>you might have an argument from somebody about Riviera just

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 2>because there's so much unique in terms of their holes,

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:28.760
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think it probably is on the list.

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I I mean, like I it's hard for me

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 1>to take a step, but I just don't think like

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 1>a regular fan would. And I think, like, honestly, an

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:40.240
<v Speaker 1>event that's probably a course that's like building up towards

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>that and it's it's like the final four holes. But

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:46.600
<v Speaker 1>is uh Scottsdale.

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, that's that's probably maybe the closest in

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 2>terms of in the running. But you know, I mean,

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:55.319
<v Speaker 2>this guy says to me. You know, why don't you

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 2>have a US Open at Pebble every year? Well, we

0:44:57.440 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 2>have an early season opportunit unity with the pro Am

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 2>and it as you and I have known for years,

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 2>and it's been a running joke on social media for years,

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 2>the most ungolfy broadcast of the year was always that

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Saturday at the pro Am because they had to infuse

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 2>the celebrities and in the broadcast and you kind of

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:23.479
<v Speaker 2>failed to see what was the star, which is Pebble Beach.

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:25.760
<v Speaker 2>And now the star is back right.

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:29.360
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, think about that field, you know, the

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:31.720
<v Speaker 1>in recent years it's been going up against that Saudi

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 1>International field, Okay, and it's just been like what happened

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:37.760
<v Speaker 1>to Pebble Beach is like the one of the worst

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 1>fields on the PGA Tour, and it's like, oh, now

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:44.600
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get the very best players in the world

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 1>at Pebble Beach on the weekend. I mean, that event

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 1>has done a complete one eighty for diehard golf fan.

0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I totally agree. Andy. Have a question for you. Let's

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:59.280
<v Speaker 2>say this year is a crazy success. Right to your point,

0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 2>do you see in the future the potential for Cypress

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:04.400
<v Speaker 2>to get back in the road.

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:08.239
<v Speaker 1>To well, I think this the limited number of players

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 1>is the biggest draw for that potentially happening.

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:14.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so too. I'd heard some murmurs last year,

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 2>like mid summer, just you know, some light murmurs. But

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 2>it would be epic, epic to have that, like with

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 2>modern technology. That's the thing people don't understand, Andy, is

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:29.880
<v Speaker 2>what was the last time was like in the early nineties,

0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 2>was the last time Cypress was a part of this?

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Like drones haven't been a part of a Cypress broadcast, right,

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean the tower camera HD four K, all these

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:43.399
<v Speaker 2>things on you know, fifteen sixteen seventeen. Would I mean,

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, you'd have that and then you could flip

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 2>over to pebbles for goodness.

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Say yeah, think about how excited nance would be too.

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:52.919
<v Speaker 1>Nance would be sud be thrown. You'd be thrown ninety five.

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 2>Listen, nobody could speak better or or would know more

0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:58.680
<v Speaker 2>about a golf course in terms of a host than

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:03.720
<v Speaker 2>than than Jim at Cyprus. It would be I would

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:07.479
<v Speaker 2>be all in all day. Can we give a shout

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 2>out to Jim Nantz by the way, I feel like

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 2>he does. I feel like we underappreciate how freaking good

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:17.759
<v Speaker 2>he is at his job because we hear him so

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 2>much in golf.

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:23.359
<v Speaker 1>I agree with this awesome he's I mean so good

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:25.920
<v Speaker 1>at his job. Well, I think the thing that I

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 1>think is amazing and I don't know exactly what his

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 1>schedule is going to be now, but it's like the

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:35.280
<v Speaker 1>way where you can go from being the best voice

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 1>on football to then like calling the NC Double a

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Final four and then just like effortlessly then shifting back

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 1>to golf. Right, It's the It's the variety. It's the

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:54.240
<v Speaker 1>ability to to be able to talk about sports, multiple sports,

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:58.560
<v Speaker 1>and an extraordinarily high level that I think is under

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 1>the radar, you know, be on just like the name stats,

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:04.560
<v Speaker 1>knowing that like the work that he has to put

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:09.359
<v Speaker 1>in to do that. It is the ability to pay

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 1>attention like he the guy has to work really hard.

0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh so that was my My big takeaway working with

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Joe Buck when I worked with him at the during

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:23.640
<v Speaker 2>the Fox Golf days, was how much time he'd put

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:26.759
<v Speaker 2>in to four days of a US Open broadcast. I mean,

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:30.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, like months in advanced he's reading, researching, He

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:33.359
<v Speaker 2>had multiple researchers that were sending him information. I mean

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:39.280
<v Speaker 2>this guy probably spent five months, you know, multiple days

0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:43.320
<v Speaker 2>a week, reading, researching, knowing everything he could about a

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 2>the golf course and be the players involved. It was

0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 2>amazing how much time he would put in for four

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:52.400
<v Speaker 2>days of work. It was, it was, it made it

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:54.719
<v Speaker 2>made me understand that it was it needed I needed

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 2>to elevate. I'll say that.

0:48:56.480 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I I I'm definitely I'm not gonna name names, but

0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:04.280
<v Speaker 1>what I will I will say that when you see

0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the people that do the work, it makes the people

0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:12.400
<v Speaker 1>in the broadcast industry that don't do the work so

0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 1>very very apparent, right it is. It's an interesting dynamic,

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:25.360
<v Speaker 1>but like you know, it requires you know, people like

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I think Trevor Moulment's done like a fantastic job. But

0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 1>like why you think he's why he's good is because

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:35.400
<v Speaker 1>he's putting in the work. He knows, he's doing the

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 1>research on the players, he's keeping up on like what's

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 1>going on, right, And that's that's a lot of work

0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 1>to do, right It's not just showing up and and

0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:48.200
<v Speaker 1>reacting to golf shots on TV. It is it is

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 1>being so integrated and involved in the sport, right Well.

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like Andy just like to let people behind.

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Kind of the the you know, the window for a

0:49:56.680 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 2>moment is when you're doing a broadcast, you're getting research

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:02.960
<v Speaker 2>information sent to you pretty consistently, you know. I mean

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:06.319
<v Speaker 2>you're getting like news clips email to you in like

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 2>a downloadable PDF or whatever you're probably gonna get, you know,

0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:11.879
<v Speaker 2>like say at the Canadian Open or something. You might

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 2>get twenty articles, you know, three weeks out, twenty five articles,

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:19.920
<v Speaker 2>two weeks out, you know, twenty five thirty articles a

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:22.600
<v Speaker 2>week of. You're getting a lot of information sent It's

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:25.680
<v Speaker 2>on you to read the information, right, I mean, that's

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 2>your job in a sense. But if you know the sport,

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:31.279
<v Speaker 2>you cover, the sport, you follow the sport, a lot

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:34.080
<v Speaker 2>of it is the stuff you already know, so it's

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:37.359
<v Speaker 2>very easy, I'll say, to not want to read it.

0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:41.000
<v Speaker 2>But in the information that you're getting sent, there's a

0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:45.400
<v Speaker 2>quote here or a nugget there that and I will.

0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:48.439
<v Speaker 2>I can, because I've done these jobs before. When I'm

0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 2>watching a broadcast, I can. I could almost guarantee you

0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 2>that ninety five percent of the time, I could tell

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:56.520
<v Speaker 2>you if it's a nugget that's in the person's brain

0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:58.839
<v Speaker 2>or if it's something handed to them you know, if

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.759
<v Speaker 2>it's card handed to them and you can almost tell, like,

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:03.520
<v Speaker 2>are you listening to them to the No Lane Up

0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:06.439
<v Speaker 2>podcast that they're doing with x Y and Z player right,

0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:09.560
<v Speaker 2>are you paying attention? Are you listening to for play

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:12.920
<v Speaker 2>when they're interviewing or they're doing a golf segment with

0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:15.759
<v Speaker 2>Sam Byrd's, you know, to get something from that that

0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:18.560
<v Speaker 2>you might not get from an everyday article, Like you've

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:20.600
<v Speaker 2>got to want to do it. And I think the

0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 2>guys that are the best are the best because they

0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:25.840
<v Speaker 2>obviously are very smart and very talented, but it's almost

0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:28.279
<v Speaker 2>like they really want to do the work. And I

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:31.840
<v Speaker 2>feel like nance has just been doing this for whatever

0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:35.000
<v Speaker 2>thirty something years and still wants to wants to listen

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:35.520
<v Speaker 2>and read, you.

0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Know, I had I I don't. Something I thought that

0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:42.560
<v Speaker 1>crossed my mind today while I was prepping for this

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:45.959
<v Speaker 1>is that I find it a bit crazy that it's

0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:49.640
<v Speaker 1>January and we and we don't know who our other

0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:54.880
<v Speaker 1>golf color analyst is obviously singers out. We just we

0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 1>got Kevin because they're stepping in for two events. From me,

0:51:57.760 --> 0:52:02.480
<v Speaker 1>sim that's very interesting, but there's no what's what's going on?

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I always you, and I love to compare

0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:07.840
<v Speaker 2>stuff to other sports, but I just laugh at like

0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 2>if if the if the Money Night football analyst chair

0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:13.399
<v Speaker 2>was empty, and.

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 1>It's the weekend, it's the week of it's.

0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:19.399
<v Speaker 2>The week of the season, Like, who's gonna be It's

0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 2>like the Mass Singer. Maybe it's Mass Singer Golf edition.

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:22.680
<v Speaker 2>You never know.

0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:25.919
<v Speaker 1>That was something that like, just while I was thinking

0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:29.000
<v Speaker 1>about this next year, I kind of like irrationally got

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 1>upset about was like, wait, how do how do we not?

0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Like I think like I don't want to put you

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:38.360
<v Speaker 1>in a spot. So this is all my thoughts. You

0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:42.360
<v Speaker 1>do not have to comment, but like I think, like

0:52:42.600 --> 0:52:46.200
<v Speaker 1>what's happened with NBC Golf Channel over the last like

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:50.320
<v Speaker 1>couple years has been kind of like they have really

0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:54.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of given the fans the middle finger, And this

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:59.960
<v Speaker 1>is just the latest in this whole kind of oddest

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:03.440
<v Speaker 1>see of of NBC and and what the last you know,

0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:07.560
<v Speaker 1>basically since Johnny Miller left has been kind of it's

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:11.719
<v Speaker 1>felt like a decline here and it's like we're now

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:16.239
<v Speaker 1>it's January second as we're recording this, and we have

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:20.400
<v Speaker 1>no clue who our golf analyst is. For half the

0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:23.160
<v Speaker 1>half the event. What they have two of the four

0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:26.360
<v Speaker 1>majors and uh and we don't know who's gonna be

0:53:26.440 --> 0:53:30.760
<v Speaker 1>calling calling the main main analyst in the broadcast booth, right.

0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Andy, It is interesting you you did speak on something

0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:35.080
<v Speaker 2>earlier about about Adam Scott and Justin Rose. We were talking

0:53:35.080 --> 0:53:38.280
<v Speaker 2>about that forty something golfer that had a great career

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 2>for so long it could compete and win. I mean,

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:43.719
<v Speaker 2>I think about Marco Myra and ninety eight and you know,

0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:48.239
<v Speaker 2>obviously was his whole his whole wife was revitalized because he,

0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, lived close to this young stud that ended

0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:53.560
<v Speaker 2>up being the best golfer of all time. I wonder,

0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:56.120
<v Speaker 2>and I know Ogilvy's name has kind of been floated

0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:58.839
<v Speaker 2>around a bit. I wonder if that's the space that's

0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:02.200
<v Speaker 2>going to take this position, because forever it was like

0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:05.040
<v Speaker 2>a fifty year old, a fifty two year old, a

0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:08.359
<v Speaker 2>fifty five year old that got into that world on

0:54:08.440 --> 0:54:10.200
<v Speaker 2>the back end of their playing career. They tried to

0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:12.759
<v Speaker 2>play Champions Tour golf and they couldn't compete or they

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:15.600
<v Speaker 2>weren't interested in doing that, and so they got into TV.

0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll be interested if that flip happens to late thirties

0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:25.880
<v Speaker 2>early forty year old guys moving forward that it seems

0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:28.000
<v Speaker 2>like it's happening a bit in terms of like digital

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 2>broadcast and ESPN plus, PJA Tour live, those types of things.

0:54:31.239 --> 0:54:35.160
<v Speaker 2>But I'm wondering if we will get the superstar level

0:54:35.200 --> 0:54:37.799
<v Speaker 2>person that feels like, like, you know, Justin Rose could

0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:40.600
<v Speaker 2>do that job tomorrow, right, So, like how much longer

0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:46.799
<v Speaker 2>does Justin Rose want a battle Ludwig and ADDC and

0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:50.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, the and the Cootie brothers. You know, on

0:54:50.040 --> 0:54:51.799
<v Speaker 2>a week to week basis on the PGA Tour, you're

0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:55.360
<v Speaker 2>gonna make more money playing golf, but maybe life's a

0:54:55.360 --> 0:54:56.880
<v Speaker 2>little less stressful if you get to sit in the

0:54:56.920 --> 0:54:59.560
<v Speaker 2>booth and chat about it and talk about it. Obviously

0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:01.759
<v Speaker 2>knowing all these guys, I mean, it's just it feels

0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:04.239
<v Speaker 2>like it's a little bit of a transition period in

0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:06.960
<v Speaker 2>terms of what golf and TV is going to look

0:55:07.000 --> 0:55:08.000
<v Speaker 2>like kind of moving forward.

0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think there's also like this aspect of you know,

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:16.760
<v Speaker 1>the money, right, the amount of money that these guys

0:55:16.760 --> 0:55:19.600
<v Speaker 1>have made is just so much different. I mean, you

0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:22.960
<v Speaker 1>get somebody like Johnny Miller because they didn't make like

0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:28.040
<v Speaker 1>retire like you know, totally live lavishly, like however you

0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:31.040
<v Speaker 1>want to live money. When they played professional golf, they've

0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:33.719
<v Speaker 1>made a lot of money. I'm not trying to discount

0:55:33.760 --> 0:55:36.960
<v Speaker 1>that they you know, but there there was a certain

0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:43.040
<v Speaker 1>need to work to maintain a certain level of lifestyle.

0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:46.120
<v Speaker 1>And it's like now these guys, it's like I was

0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:49.760
<v Speaker 1>just looking at scrolling around here at like the most.

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:52.879
<v Speaker 2>Just what's justin Roe's like career money. I mean it's

0:55:52.880 --> 0:55:56.400
<v Speaker 2>got to be like fifty oh my god, sixty million.

0:55:56.440 --> 0:55:57.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean just on the PGA tour.

0:55:58.719 --> 0:56:01.560
<v Speaker 1>That's you know, the the career moneyless is probably the

0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:04.719
<v Speaker 1>place to go for this. But but yeah, the uh,

0:56:05.600 --> 0:56:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, like that's an aspect of this and and

0:56:08.160 --> 0:56:11.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe you know, it's always been this major, this all

0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:13.359
<v Speaker 1>time great, like you think about fal Though, you think

0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:19.239
<v Speaker 1>about Johnny Miller, you know, is the shift now, like

0:56:19.520 --> 0:56:21.839
<v Speaker 1>is it going to become okay if somebody didn't win

0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:26.319
<v Speaker 1>a major, if they weren't a perennial top ten player. Now,

0:56:26.320 --> 0:56:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I think, honestly, that might push the level of of

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:35.800
<v Speaker 1>broadcasting up because it's gonna be somebody that's that wants

0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 1>to do the work right to well.

0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:40.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like like Andy, who's been who's been the

0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:45.239
<v Speaker 2>most popular, hottest topic person in sports broadcasting in the

0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:47.799
<v Speaker 2>last five years? Like, what's the name that comes to mind,

0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Romo Romo. I mean it's Tony Romo for sure. Right,

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Tony Romo is not a career NFL quarterback, Hall of Famer,

0:56:57.080 --> 0:57:00.520
<v Speaker 2>super Bowl winner, any of that. Right, Tony Romo can

0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:04.040
<v Speaker 2>talk ball. He knows ball. He's sat there and he's

0:57:04.080 --> 0:57:06.640
<v Speaker 2>played ball. We've seen him do extraordinary things on the

0:57:06.640 --> 0:57:10.120
<v Speaker 2>football field. We've also seen him do not great things

0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:13.040
<v Speaker 2>on the football field, especially in big moments. I mean,

0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Tony Romo, in theory, should have broken this mold already.

0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean should have said, well, Romo can do it

0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:22.240
<v Speaker 2>in football, Like I mean, think.

0:57:22.120 --> 0:57:25.800
<v Speaker 1>About how great Greg Olsen's been. Greg Olsen is, you know.

0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Olsen's great. Colt Nost is great. Smiley's been extremely interesting

0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:32.560
<v Speaker 2>to listen to. Like these are not guys that were

0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:35.800
<v Speaker 2>winning major championships, you know. I mean Colt Nost won

0:57:35.880 --> 0:57:38.640
<v Speaker 2>an ameterur, which I think is an incredible thing to

0:57:38.680 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 2>have on your resume. Right, But Colt's great on course

0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:44.840
<v Speaker 2>because he knows the players. He's well spoken, he's funny,

0:57:44.880 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 2>he's entertaining.

0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:46.560
<v Speaker 1>He does the work.

0:57:46.880 --> 0:57:50.240
<v Speaker 2>He does the work. He does the work. Smiley's great

0:57:50.280 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 2>in his position because these guys he's talking about are

0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:56.760
<v Speaker 2>his buddies. If he has a question to ask Jordan Speeds,

0:57:56.800 --> 0:57:59.040
<v Speaker 2>you know what he can do. He can text Jordan

0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Speed the question and they can relay that. Now that's

0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:04.240
<v Speaker 2>not the only skill set needed in that position, but

0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:06.960
<v Speaker 2>it's very important to have. And I would not be

0:58:07.120 --> 0:58:09.960
<v Speaker 2>surprised if you continue to see Smiley move up and

0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:13.520
<v Speaker 2>the ranks because of the unique place he's in in

0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:16.360
<v Speaker 2>the game right now. He's young, he's well spoken, he's

0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:19.800
<v Speaker 2>good at his job, and more importantly than all that stuff,

0:58:20.200 --> 0:58:22.400
<v Speaker 2>he knows all the guys because he played against him.

0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:25.480
<v Speaker 1>All Right, I'm gonna rattle some names off just so

0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 1>you know. Rose made sixty two million so far. And

0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:31.480
<v Speaker 1>is that just PJA Tour, just PGA tour, So.

0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:33.720
<v Speaker 2>He's probably made forty million on the on the.

0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:37.919
<v Speaker 1>Euro maybe not forty, probably twenty, probably fifteen, I would guess.

0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:41.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if that's a website. By the way,

0:58:41.280 --> 0:58:42.720
<v Speaker 2>is the World to officially?

0:58:43.120 --> 0:58:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it's still europeantour dot com. Yeah it is,

0:58:45.800 --> 0:58:49.080
<v Speaker 1>it is, so here I just throw some names at

0:58:49.120 --> 0:58:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you and you tell me if you're excited about any lea.

0:58:53.000 --> 0:58:54.480
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, I just want to let let

0:58:54.520 --> 0:58:56.800
<v Speaker 2>everybody know this. This is not a knock on who

0:58:56.800 --> 0:58:57.080
<v Speaker 2>you are.

0:58:57.160 --> 0:58:57.960
<v Speaker 1>This is just us.

0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:01.560
<v Speaker 2>We are we fired up to hear you. Are we excited?

0:59:01.680 --> 0:59:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh by the way, Roses made thirty million on the

0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:04.320
<v Speaker 2>DP World Tour.

0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So there you go, Zach Johnson. I know. I

0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:12.880
<v Speaker 2>mean again, this is not a knock on who you are.

0:59:13.040 --> 0:59:15.760
<v Speaker 2>This isn't anything like that. It's just simply this is

0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:18.000
<v Speaker 2>a hard job. I mean it's one person. Two people

0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:18.960
<v Speaker 2>in the world do this job.

0:59:19.280 --> 0:59:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, first, you have to occupy air for six hours.

0:59:22.320 --> 0:59:26.720
<v Speaker 1>It's not an easy position. DL three we already tried.

0:59:28.560 --> 0:59:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Let's see ste Sink. I love ste Sink, but I

0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:33.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he'd he might be okay.

0:59:33.200 --> 0:59:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Actually I'm I'm like like, I'm like a maybe. I mean,

0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:38.640
<v Speaker 2>I think he could be good. Just again, is he gonna?

0:59:38.880 --> 0:59:40.920
<v Speaker 2>My My question to these guys I always ask is

0:59:41.080 --> 0:59:42.960
<v Speaker 2>are you willing to be critical? Which it takes a

0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:44.400
<v Speaker 2>little bit of time for these guys to get to

0:59:44.400 --> 0:59:44.920
<v Speaker 2>that position.

0:59:45.520 --> 0:59:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh, David Thoms, I.

0:59:48.840 --> 0:59:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Just again, I just don't think it's a position for him.

0:59:51.080 --> 0:59:53.720
<v Speaker 1>No, brand Snetiker, don't.

0:59:53.480 --> 0:59:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Think it's a position for him.

0:59:55.560 --> 0:59:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Um Luke Donald, I think he's great. I don't thin

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a position for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm I'm a maybe on Luke. I'm a maybe on.

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<v Speaker 1>Luke all right? Or Sabatini. You think they're gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>him in the booth?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say this could could potentially be awesome, could

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<v Speaker 2>be awful, don't know. Don't think there's a I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he's a five out of ten. I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>either a ten out of ten throwing heaters like Johnny,

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<v Speaker 2>or he's got two days of the job.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the career money list. Now we've entered the

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Moore, Ryan Palmer, Charlie Hoffman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that. But that's the problem and Andy, like

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you said, is is the this is the

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<v Speaker 2>group you're gonna probably have to pick from because Phil's

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<v Speaker 2>not doing the job, like like like Jordan Spieth.

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<v Speaker 1>At home, Hunter Mayhan might be it.

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<v Speaker 2>Might be the guy. Maybe that's the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, Hunter Mayhon might be.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, he's really good on TV. He's been really

1:00:52.680 --> 1:00:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I've really enjoyed listening to him when he's done TV.

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<v Speaker 2>He's forty one years old.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a top five player, top.

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<v Speaker 2>Five player, played on Ryder Cups, contended top ten and

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<v Speaker 2>every major he played in at some point in his career,

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<v Speaker 2>won some big events, was an excellent and no, and again,

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<v Speaker 2>like knows, the problem is all the guys he knows.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying he's not friends with young guys,

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<v Speaker 2>but all the guys he knows are probably in that

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<v Speaker 2>group that he would in theory be competing against, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the hard part of this is you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to connect with a twenty two year old

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<v Speaker 2>guy that's playing tour golf, which in which means you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to care to try to connect with him, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think, again to your point about what we started

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<v Speaker 2>with Trevor, Trevor is so good at that. Like, Trevor

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<v Speaker 2>goes out of his way to approach young players and

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<v Speaker 2>talk to young players and one time to no, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to your best buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>But the President's the President's Cup Captain is a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of that too, I have to imagine, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>it forced him to be out there by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>If we somehow deviated from talking about what we're excited

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<v Speaker 2>about in twenty twenty four to who's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the next great broadcaster. But I actually I'll say this, Andy,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a great thing to bring up, because,

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<v Speaker 2>like you said this week in theory, we don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>know who do we know who's sitting there? Is is

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<v Speaker 2>doing this week?

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<v Speaker 1>Kisner could be amazing, just amazing. I used that president

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<v Speaker 1>president Who's cup team like three years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>And Andy's not gonna get the job. You have a

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<v Speaker 2>coughing fit in the booth.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know the joys of having young kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I trust me. I know my daughter into my mouth yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>directly into my mouth as she sat in my laugh

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<v Speaker 2>and then she was like, gave me the sweetest look,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, I don't know what am I supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to do here?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the the worst since when they cough and you

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<v Speaker 1>literally feel the cough go into your mouth. Yeah, that's exact.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's my question, I guess would be you looked

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<v Speaker 2>at career money. I guess another way I look at

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<v Speaker 2>this and I might do a little dig in tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Is is there like a group of like Smiley where

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<v Speaker 2>they're young and it just didn't work out, like the

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<v Speaker 2>game maybe didn't work out. And is there is there

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<v Speaker 2>anybody in that world that you feel like could be

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<v Speaker 2>excellent at this position, because again, it feels like it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably the way to go is to try to find

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<v Speaker 2>somebody very young and very talented. It's just way easier

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<v Speaker 2>said than done.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the other crazy thing about the situation here

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<v Speaker 1>and this is this is NBC Golf Channel Zone doing.

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<v Speaker 1>They had nobody in the pipeline, right, like Smiley's like

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<v Speaker 1>the one, but it's like Smiley's been doing this for

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<v Speaker 1>two years and I don't, like, I just don't think

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<v Speaker 1>like that you can go from where he is now

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<v Speaker 1>to being the lead chair right away, but like in

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<v Speaker 1>maybe five years, ten years, five years from now he

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<v Speaker 1>might be ready for that, right But like the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they didn't have anybody else that was even like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we got somebody that's recalled golf going into

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<v Speaker 1>the booth for the first two terminus of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Kissner's going to be really good at it,

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<v Speaker 1>but like is he going to be so is he

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<v Speaker 1>done playing? Like that would be my question like, but

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<v Speaker 1>he fits the he fits the vein of what's probably

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<v Speaker 1>realistic of career achievements at this point that would want

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<v Speaker 1>to do the booth job that like versus, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>getting the Nick Faldo of this year. You're not Brooks.

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<v Speaker 1>Koepka isn't going into the booth.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Jordan justin Max, these guys aren't. I mean unless

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<v Speaker 2>they really want to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Max could do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but again Andy, like, like you're gonna go to

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<v Speaker 2>Max home and go, hey, you want to do this job.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have made it like ten fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe, but I just like, you're gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>a fiftieth or a twentieth of what you made as

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<v Speaker 2>a player, and yet you're gonna have to travel the

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<v Speaker 2>same amount. You're gonna stay in worse places. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, I think it's a great and it's an

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<v Speaker 2>awesome idea that one of these guys would be excellent

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<v Speaker 2>of the job, But in reality, once they see the

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<v Speaker 2>week to week grind, how much work they got to

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<v Speaker 2>put in, how it's not as easy as everybody thinks

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<v Speaker 2>it is, how much travels involved, how they've got to

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<v Speaker 2>get there on a Tuesday for a Thursday golf tournament,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in flyout Sunday night, or whatever the case

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<v Speaker 2>may be. I think you were right when you said

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<v Speaker 2>it's unrealistic to assume that Nick Faldo or Johnny Miller

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<v Speaker 2>two point zero is ever gonna exist again in golf

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<v Speaker 2>space in terms of broadcasting, because if we've learned anything

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<v Speaker 2>it's that we're cutting money away from this stuff versus

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<v Speaker 2>putting more money into it. And you're gonna go to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one of these twenty eight thirty thirty two

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<v Speaker 2>year old guys that are making twenty million a year, go,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll pay you a million a year to do this job.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're they're gonna be like, we'll make I

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<v Speaker 2>make a million a year, just leave my money in

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<v Speaker 2>the bank, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, Wait, we've devolved here.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually I thought it was listening. I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was a great I thought it was a great conversation

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<v Speaker 2>to have. And I think it is important because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure golf fans are thinking, at least something similar to

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<v Speaker 2>what you brought up is this is an important position,

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<v Speaker 2>especially early in the season when you've got these monumental

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<v Speaker 2>golf tournaments that are going to take over Sports TV

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<v Speaker 2>when football ends and the playoffs go away, and you've

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<v Speaker 2>kind of got RIV floating around, and you've got these

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<v Speaker 2>great tournaments. I know Riv's a CBS property, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know you've got these great golf tournaments. And maybe it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be Kissner. And if it is, I mean, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>he's who he is, you know, away from the mic,

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<v Speaker 2>because Kevin Kisner's extremely entertaining, he's a great listen and

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<v Speaker 2>he's somebody I think that could crush the job if

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It, all right. Other predictions.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're gonna get some shake up in a

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<v Speaker 2>Grand Slam world. I think the Grand Slam world has

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<v Speaker 2>been saging it for a long long time. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying that we're going to have somebody complete the Grand Slam.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody's got to do it eventually, Dude.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been twenty four years since somebody joined the team.

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<v Speaker 2>How crazy is that? Two thousand when Tiger won in St.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrews it was his last leg. Twenty four years A

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<v Speaker 2>long time take all right, So so.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got it. If you had to bet on on

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan or Rory or other.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take Here's Who's Here's who I'm taking right now.

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<v Speaker 2>This is who I wrote down. I think that Morikawa

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<v Speaker 2>is the likeliest candidate to take the step closer to

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<v Speaker 2>the Grand Slam. You well, I mean, you know you've

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<v Speaker 2>got so you've got, You've got three big guys that

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<v Speaker 2>need another major to be one away, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's going to be a huge I think

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<v Speaker 2>Morico is going to be Player of the Year. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's gonna win a lot this year. I'm big

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<v Speaker 2>on Colin in twenty twenty four, and I just feel

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<v Speaker 2>like he will tick off one of the two he

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<v Speaker 2>needs to get within one and then obviously you've got

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<v Speaker 2>Rory and Speeth and Phil that are floating around that

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<v Speaker 2>need one left. But I just feel like that will

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see a little bit of shake up by years

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<v Speaker 2>in either it's Brooks at Augusta, or it's more a Cow

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<v Speaker 2>winning one of the two he needs, or to your point,

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<v Speaker 2>it's rom doing much of the same either at the

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<v Speaker 2>PGA or the Open. So yeah, I just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get some shake up there, and maybe somebody

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<v Speaker 2>adds themselves to the list of three or four, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we get somebody that finally ticks off, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that final one they need.

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<v Speaker 1>This might be Phil's last US Open chance.

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<v Speaker 2>So he won the PGA in twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying just from like a course fit, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you get you could always count him in at Pebble,

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<v Speaker 1>but like Pinehurst number two would be a course that's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not your typical US Open course, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's a good point. Yeah. I mean like

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<v Speaker 2>like can do all of this stuff. He does well

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<v Speaker 2>around the greens.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, mm hmm. So I don't know, it'll be a

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<v Speaker 1>course that a lot of people miss greens. It'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a huge premium on approach play. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>with with Piners number two is like you could drive

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<v Speaker 1>it a little crooked and get away with it because

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<v Speaker 1>you get those waste areas, you get some good aches

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<v Speaker 1>and you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Phil, by the way, Phil Phil camp Smith is battling

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<v Speaker 2>it at Pineher's number two. I think anyway, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of people love camp Smith for this Pineers number two.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to see I need to see a readddication,

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<v Speaker 1>need read a dedication to golf for Campsmith. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>some I saw some some of the some of the

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<v Speaker 1>footage from the Australian Open, and that swing is like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>does this guy just give a not doing fitness anymore? Dude?

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<v Speaker 2>Andy, you know how hard it would be if somebody

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<v Speaker 2>paid you up front one hundred million dollars and it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't matter what you did to here, like it would

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<v Speaker 2>take would I would.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you have to be insanely competitive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could easily pack on twenty LB's like right

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<v Speaker 2>out of the gate if that was the case, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you wanted to just be lazy, it

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<v Speaker 2>would be very easy to be lazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'd be easy to put on twenty LB's

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody was paying you one hundred million dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>be in shape.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh for sure, for sure, Zion. It's a good example.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's but let's let's focus on the fitness.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm with you, a right, that was I

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<v Speaker 2>think that was my second to last.

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<v Speaker 1>One I got. I got so Like. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I always look at is that players the

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<v Speaker 1>fallout of the top ten. This is basically every year,

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<v Speaker 1>every year, two to four fallout and and this year

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's obvious contenders for falling out. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you go to the oh wgrs jacked up to like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so hard to follow.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Well, I just don't think Wyndham and Brian Harmon

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<v Speaker 1>should necessarily be in the in the top ten. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Brooks should be in there, and and probably cam

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<v Speaker 1>Smith maybe in tenth, I don't know, h maybe, but

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<v Speaker 1>but anyways, you know, who are they gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that fall out?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think everybody's going to point to like Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Harmon and Wyndham Clark. I don't think Wyndham Clark's going

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<v Speaker 1>to fall out of the town ten. I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>think he's going to be one that sticks around. But

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<v Speaker 1>that means like fits Matty fitz Homa, Xander can't lay

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<v Speaker 1>one of those guys. At least one more of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys is falling out. Yep, probably three or four guys

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<v Speaker 1>will fall out. So it's like, who's going to fall out? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's always a fascinating question.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean rom falls out right in theory, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Think he's going to he's three even he won't he's

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<v Speaker 1>got so many he's got so many points, okay, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's over one hundred points ahead of fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to tell you that that you you

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<v Speaker 2>could have set a hundred points above, mean five huts above,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have known the difference. Yeah, Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what. I don't know what it is?

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<v Speaker 1>Like a cup point?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you get? What do you get if you win? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What is what do you get if you win on

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<v Speaker 2>the ows R? Do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>No? I don't know. I don't know. So I mean

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<v Speaker 1>like it, do you think fits is gonna fall out

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<v Speaker 1>of the top ten?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think he's gonna have a good year.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know Markwi. So like you, you're big on

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<v Speaker 1>markw He's coming in right top ten, so it's like

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<v Speaker 1>he's playing his way in. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, three of my last preditions at you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, you're gonna like this one. I think we've

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<v Speaker 2>spent how long have we gone here our tour? Hour?

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<v Speaker 2>Nine minutes? I don't think, man, we have Sorry, I

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<v Speaker 2>take the back. We have mentioned his name one Tiger Woods.

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<v Speaker 2>Not sure if you saw much in December on Tiger Andy.

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<v Speaker 2>A few counts posted some stuff on social media. Not

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. I didn't see a lot, but there was

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit here and there, twenty twenty four President's

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<v Speaker 2>Cup Tiger Woods on the team. That's my prediction. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>on the team, twenty twenty four president Cup Tiger Woods

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good that's a good prediction. I got Scotty

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<v Speaker 1>Scheffler winning a second major. I don't think we really

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<v Speaker 1>need to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the can you tell me, can you rank,

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<v Speaker 2>give me power ranking one to four on what you

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<v Speaker 2>think most likely the least likely of that prediction.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying, like, how how good I feel about Skotty Scheffler?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no. Just if you said he's gonna win

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<v Speaker 2>a major of the of the four majors, what's the

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<v Speaker 2>most likely wins in your opinion? What's the least likely wins?

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<v Speaker 1>When Masters? Most likely he's already done it. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think his short game ball striking can get

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<v Speaker 1>him to a position where if he can totally put

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<v Speaker 1>bad and win, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the I think that's the obvious number one.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to go Masters, Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it. I think it goes Masters, US Open, PGA,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Open.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I would have probably flipped open in PGA, but similar,

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<v Speaker 2>similar idea, especially with Pine Nurse. I think, Scotty, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of fun at Pine Nurse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's how I would I would do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the beard, the beard's here to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see that way?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think he's Jimmy Kimmel Allstars? You think he's

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<v Speaker 2>going with it? Huh?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. I think he showed up to whatever

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<v Speaker 1>hero with the scruff. I think he got good feedback

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<v Speaker 1>and he's gone all in.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean he does. Let's be honest, he looks

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<v Speaker 2>way he looks way better. I mean he looks more handsome.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. It's not like better, It's

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<v Speaker 2>just he looks a little bit older. Dude. I'll say this.

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<v Speaker 2>In my twenties, when I realized what facial hair did

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<v Speaker 2>for my face, it was on all the time. Now

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<v Speaker 2>in my forties, it's gray right here. So I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>other way. Now I'm shaving way more than not.

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<v Speaker 1>I uh, you know I'm not allowed to shave. My

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<v Speaker 1>wife like doesn't let me.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, when's the last time you were totally clean shaven.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a mishap with a new trimmer. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope it wasn't I had to go. I had to go. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to go all the way down.

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't. But you don't go all the way down.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever you leave it, you leave it up most of

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting all the time, all the time. Like when I trim,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like two and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, see, because I remember I asked my wife one time,

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<v Speaker 2>I said beard, no beard, and she said, I do

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<v Speaker 2>not care. And I was like, all right, well there

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<v Speaker 2>you go. I can I'll make the decision. Does doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>like the stash, But other than that, she's good to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right. Well, hey, Shane, good having you on.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to go back to stretching talk? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you good?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, I'm good. Any NBA thoughts on the way out?

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<v Speaker 1>How about the thunder.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's been, without a doubt, the most fun regular

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<v Speaker 2>season NBA that I can remember since I've been an adult.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's awesome, It's there's it feels like there's a

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<v Speaker 2>new it feels like this is kind of the flippy.

1:15:47.120 --> 1:15:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Remember the Lee Westwood, Martin Kaimer Luke Donald run where

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<v Speaker 2>they were kind of battling with world number one, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was this weird time in golf. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>post Tiger and Phil but before Rory and Speed. It

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<v Speaker 2>feels like we have and not to say that the

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<v Speaker 2>past was bad, but it feels like we're moving into

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<v Speaker 2>like the Rory Spith world of the NBA where this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of new crop, you know, the Timberwolves, the the

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<v Speaker 2>Thunder like this new group are gonna be relatively dominant

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<v Speaker 2>over the next you know, a few years, and that

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<v Speaker 2>includes Dallas and obviously what we've seen with Denver. But

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like it's it's a switch in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the old garden the new garden.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's so much talent in the NBA so

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<v Speaker 1>just insane.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so easy to turn on every night. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>the best is a weird NFL year. So with that

1:16:34.360 --> 1:16:36.320
<v Speaker 2>weird NFL, you're to have this great NBA on his

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<v Speaker 2>bit Chef's kiss.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah all right, Shane, Well, we'll talk to you soon.

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