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Speaker 1: to welcome Paul here to the Car Doctor, and he's

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Speaker 1: You know, as the year is kind of flown by Paul,

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Speaker 1: Doctor here with Paul Eisenstein of Thedetroit.

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Speaker 1: Paul, you know, now that we've enlightened everybody about the

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Speaker 3: It improved so much that it went all the way

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Speaker 1: Is there a website or is there a place information

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Speaker 3: Yes, you can go over to you can go over

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Speaker 1: Well, and you know what we'll do is we'll we'll

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Speaker 2: We'll get a link to it over there, and we'll

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Speaker 3: Here we go. It's I sorry, it's IIHS dot org

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Speaker 1: Okay, good information, hey, Paul, in our last minute, real quick,

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Speaker 1: gas powered cars are going to be in the minority

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Speaker 3: Well conventional gas powered cars gasoline cars as we know it,

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Speaker 4: Wow or not?

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Speaker 2: Hey, where's the price of gas going?

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Speaker 3: Well, I just got I just came up a block,

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Speaker 1: Hey, Paul, we've come to the end. I just want

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Speaker 3: It's always great to be with you. Happy holidays to

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Speaker 2: Take good care, Paul. I'm running any in the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 2: We are back right after this. Hey, welcome back. Run

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Speaker 2: on any in the Car Doctor. Quick piece of email.

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Speaker 1: Ron, my mother's caregiver, purchased to use two thousand and

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Speaker 1: four Subaru outback in Harrisonburg, Virginia from a used car dealer.

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Speaker 2: She's had problems ever since. I think I did.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I jeez, I don't think I

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Speaker 2: Let's listen. Let's let's read on.

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Speaker 1: The main problem is the check engine light stays on

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Speaker 1: is very infrequent, the cruse control works fine. The used

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Speaker 1: Many mechanics think that the problem may be connected to

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Speaker 1: your help, sincerely, ED. Okay, first of all, what's wrong

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Speaker 1: with this letter? I need to know what fault code

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Speaker 1: we're dealing with. Everybody's talking about catalytic converter. I need

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Speaker 1: is an assumption we assume, which is dangerous. Yes, you've

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Speaker 1: The problem is the catalytic converter has worn out, and

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Speaker 1: that's what happens. Catalytic converters do worn out. This is

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Speaker 1: The reason the light and the cruise control are tied

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Speaker 1: They take away cruise control, they'll take away ABS, they'll

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Speaker 1: take away traction control. So fix the check engine light

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Speaker 1: Till the next time I'm running dy in the car

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Speaker 1: doctor reminding you the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 3: See you,