WEBVTT - Leah Remini: Setting the Record Straight

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, fam, I'm Jada Pinkett Smith and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>on Apple Podcasts. So yeah, I'm really looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>to today's show. Um, we haven't talked in a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>She reached out to me, which was really huge of

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<v Speaker 1>her because I really don't I don't know if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>that big. Sometimes when wounds are still fresh, Um, it can.

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<v Speaker 1>It definitely can create tension. I'm really gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>have my listening ears on and really just listen and

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<v Speaker 1>really understand her side versus being defensive. For years, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been rumored that I was a scientology is because I

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<v Speaker 1>took some courses at the church and was interested in

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<v Speaker 1>study Tech, one of the organization's teaching methods. I also

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<v Speaker 1>opened a school that used the study Tech, which added

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<v Speaker 1>to the speculation. Leah Remedy was a scientologist her whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>Our problem started when she included a story about a

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<v Speaker 1>party we both attended in her memoir. Her experience that

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<v Speaker 1>night was different than mine, and when asked about it

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<v Speaker 1>on Andy Cohen's Bravo show. I explained what I remembered

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<v Speaker 1>from that evening. I know she kind of made it

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<v Speaker 1>seem kind of weird, but it really wasn't. Leah had

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<v Speaker 1>issues with my response, and from there our private disagreement

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<v Speaker 1>became a public battle. We haven't talked in years, but

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<v Speaker 1>she's coming to the Red table so we can finally

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<v Speaker 1>hear each other out. Oh yeah, yellow and red, yellow

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<v Speaker 1>and boy, pretty think about the Lemony show today. We

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<v Speaker 1>got a minute, so we might as well talk. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>my position. People are suffering bad, you know. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I look at Leah, like whatever she experienced with the

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<v Speaker 1>Church of Scientology hurt her bad and hurt people, hurt people.

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<v Speaker 1>And she took a shot at us out of pain.

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<v Speaker 1>She was hurt and she started taking shots at us.

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<v Speaker 1>And I commend you, babe, for taking on these these

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of topics. But you know, I gotta give lea

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<v Speaker 1>promps because she opened the door. Yeah, you know, she

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<v Speaker 1>made the first move towards a reconciliation. So it's Leah here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what sid I like your operation? Thank you for coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, my pleasure. You look gorgeous, you do,

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<v Speaker 1>and you always do you got that skin? Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, I really want to say I

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<v Speaker 1>really I want to start out by thanking you for

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<v Speaker 1>even in like for this. It says a lot to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it I come with that. I come with

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<v Speaker 1>this open heart, and I know that you invited me

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<v Speaker 1>with an open heart, so definitely, and this is actually

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<v Speaker 1>the first time that I'll actually be talking about my involvement,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with the church or what have you. And

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say thank you to you first because

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<v Speaker 1>you actually opened the door for this. You did Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I did with your communication with Dwayne. Just did you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get you guys up to speed. Dwayne Martin, who um

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<v Speaker 1>we're making reference to it now, happens to be a

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<v Speaker 1>mutual friend of Lee and I both. I remember the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I met you was twenty years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we reconnected at Church of Scientology. I went off

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<v Speaker 1>and did my thing. You eventually went off and did

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<v Speaker 1>your thing, and then you wrote a book, and it

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<v Speaker 1>upset me because I didn't understand why we had to

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<v Speaker 1>be in your book, because you know, when we really

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have anything to do with this, and there were

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<v Speaker 1>headlines about Scientology and I didn't go seek at Tom's

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<v Speaker 1>and how you know, Will and I had participated and

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<v Speaker 1>I was hurt, but I never said anything but Jada,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't even considering that you would be hurt. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I literally, looking back on it, I didn't even consider

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<v Speaker 1>Jada and Will. I was going in hard on my rightness.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I looked at it and I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what responsibility do I have? Can I take here for

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<v Speaker 1>upsetting somebody that I actually really care about? And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry that I didn't consider you because I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>was I was so caught up and they I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to cry. I was just caught up in that pain,

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<v Speaker 1>right and also the pain of others and the effects

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<v Speaker 1>that it had. And you know, I come from a world, Jada,

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<v Speaker 1>of of fighting, you know. And I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>that was particularly your experience with scientology, but my world

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<v Speaker 1>fully indoctrinated as a child. There's a lot of anger

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of fighting, and that is what

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<v Speaker 1>I was raised with. Just a lot of the world

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<v Speaker 1>is bad. Everyone who's not a scientologist is bad. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what I do know for a fact is you really

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know Leah, because what we're taught is to act

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<v Speaker 1>a certain way around other celebrities. And when the thing

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<v Speaker 1>happened on on on Bravo, like I was floored. I

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<v Speaker 1>was really really like, wow, Jada is not only is

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<v Speaker 1>she in scientology, but now they sent Jada out right.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's that's the secret. That's Yeah, we just

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<v Speaker 1>really like each other. I'm sure you've been asked us

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<v Speaker 1>before because Leah Remedy in her book talked about like

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<v Speaker 1>a game of hide and Seek at your house with

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Cruise. It was Tom's house, it was Tom's house,

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<v Speaker 1>and you wanted to play hide and Seek with everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>but she didn't want to play or it didn't happen, right,

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<v Speaker 1>did you have you played to? This is when our

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<v Speaker 1>kids were really small, and Tom loved games. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the whole point of Tom was just fun like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know she kind of made it seem kind

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<v Speaker 1>of weird, but it really wasn't. It was just a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of us goofing off with their kids and playing

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<v Speaker 1>silly games. There's always a backstory. There's always a backstory. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope this has been a fun girl's trip to

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<v Speaker 1>the clubhouse. He doesn't tell you what he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about he just throws stuff at you, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when that came up, I was like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not how I remember that night going, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I my producer told me that you felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't supportive of you. And I just want you to

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<v Speaker 1>know that you had basically created a situation for Will

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<v Speaker 1>and I now, and I didn't know that. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that. I know, but I'm clear on

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<v Speaker 1>that now. So I'm just giving you this where I

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<v Speaker 1>was in that in that framework of why you might

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<v Speaker 1>have felt as if I didn't have your back, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, because at that point, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta protect Will and I when the thing happened

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<v Speaker 1>on on on Bravo, And I should also tell you this,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if you really do know this,

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<v Speaker 1>but scientology has policies called fair game, and that's too

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<v Speaker 1>discredit and attack anyone who's speaking out against some of

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<v Speaker 1>the abuses of scientology. But I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>like she's even more in than I had thought, you know, so,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was wrong. So when I saw somebody had

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted me and said, why is Jada throwing shadey you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait what So when I saw it,

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<v Speaker 1>I was hurt because like, oh, she's oh so she's

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<v Speaker 1>in she's fair gaming me. Fair game is a policy

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<v Speaker 1>in scientology that calls for the utter destruction of a

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<v Speaker 1>critic of scientology. So the thing to do there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>you get trained on how to do this. You first

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<v Speaker 1>deal with it with a laugh, you know, like it's boring,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not worth watching or not worth reading. And the

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<v Speaker 1>second thing is a discredit the facts. That's why I said,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jada is a scientologist, because there's no reason for

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<v Speaker 1>Jada to be doing that other than fair gaming. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I want to apologize to you because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'd never just so you know, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>fair gaming you on Andy Cood but it was yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but literally it was just like, Okay, that's not how

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that happening. I want to acknowledge that I

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<v Speaker 1>hurt your feelings, and that's the last thing I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I don't get any joy out of hurting people.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't. And when I saw that you made

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<v Speaker 1>that statement, I was like, yeah, I felt the need

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<v Speaker 1>to respond to something that I thought was untrue. And

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't attack and and listen, this is why it's

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<v Speaker 1>so important just to have communication because this was just

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<v Speaker 1>a big gass misunderstanding because you saw me at the

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<v Speaker 1>Scientology Center, will and I always being accused of being

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<v Speaker 1>scientologists in this and being that, and what's rap I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>And the crazy thing is is that that is literally

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<v Speaker 1>if we've walked into my library right now. Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>love religion because I grew up in the Ethical Society.

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<v Speaker 1>So my grandmother was like, You're gonna learn all the

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<v Speaker 1>religious and then you got to decide which one you

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<v Speaker 1>want to practice that So for me, all religions have

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<v Speaker 1>been my home, which is why I didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>problem going to the Church of Scientology and saying I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a scientologist. I want to just be here and

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<v Speaker 1>see what you have to offer, because that was my life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm used to, you know what I mean. So,

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<v Speaker 1>but I totally see with in your shoes, your reality,

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<v Speaker 1>how you could see me the way that you did, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I always took the position that I'm here at the

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<v Speaker 1>Scientology Center to learn what I want to learn, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have no interest in being a scientologist. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that I really prided myself in was

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to be amongst that group of scientologists

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<v Speaker 1>and still hold my own in regards to no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't tell me that I'm this because I've read

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<v Speaker 1>past this page. No no, no no, I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>if I decided to do that. And you were allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to do that because oh yeah, who you are and

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<v Speaker 1>who your husband is, and regardless of what was being

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<v Speaker 1>presented to you from me as a friend, you were

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<v Speaker 1>seeing a side of me that wasn't a authentic because

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<v Speaker 1>my job was to always be a perfect person in

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<v Speaker 1>front of you or any celebrity, to solely get you

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<v Speaker 1>into scientology, fully indoctrinated, fully on board, and deserting any

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<v Speaker 1>other beliefs or or systems of learning. If you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot dabble in scientologist. I just never got any

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<v Speaker 1>of that, Like, of course you wouldn't. Yeah, I never,

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<v Speaker 1>of course you wouldn't. First of all, your Jada, that's

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<v Speaker 1>number one on its own. Number two. You're married to Will,

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a certain protocol and there's certain things you

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<v Speaker 1>would not see. You would not be privy too. So

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw you, when we became friendly, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>here's one person. Here's this ballsy, badass chick who is

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<v Speaker 1>a lover but also well, you know, put you in

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<v Speaker 1>your place. Then the wedding, oh yeah, we had it

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<v Speaker 1>was the wedding Tom and Kate's wedding, right, so the

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<v Speaker 1>wedding together, and I'm like tired. I have a newborn baby,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not really excited about sitting down to a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty course meal. But I can't say any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>If I say anything that's critical, I would have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>my ass handed to me had I been critical of

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<v Speaker 1>anything that was happening at that wedding. And I have

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<v Speaker 1>people listening to everything that I'm saying. After the wedding, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I get sent to Florida, Okay for interrogation for three

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<v Speaker 1>months because I was saying things at the wedding like

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<v Speaker 1>where is Shelley Scavenge, the leader's wife. I when I

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<v Speaker 1>got home to l A, I had a stack of

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<v Speaker 1>reports written on me, internal reports from scientologists saying that

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<v Speaker 1>I was this at the wedding. I was that. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, this is what's happening. What

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<v Speaker 1>why am I getting all these? And I know I

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<v Speaker 1>remember that because I do remember when I got home

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<v Speaker 1>and oh that was happening. I was like, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what good for Leah? No, really like the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>where is your friend? Where is she? You know? And

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of respect for the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you would not give up on that question. Well it's

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<v Speaker 1>still not answered today, despite me hiring a lawyer, and

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<v Speaker 1>that lawyer through the Public Information Act trying to get information,

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<v Speaker 1>we are still stop being stone wall today about where

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<v Speaker 1>is Shelley Scavenge, the leader's wife? I guess And three months,

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<v Speaker 1>this is when I'm on a hiatus for King of

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<v Speaker 1>Queens and I spend my time literally being derogated for

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<v Speaker 1>three months. What are your evil intentions towards David Mims Scavenge?

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<v Speaker 1>What are your even towards scientology? Like battering me for

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<v Speaker 1>three months and until I said I didn't see the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I said I saw. I'm sorry, the wife

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<v Speaker 1>is not missing. Was I able to leave? And then

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<v Speaker 1>I went back to work. But I was interrogated for years,

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<v Speaker 1>for years and punished for years, and it took me

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<v Speaker 1>six years to extract myself out of it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote the book got it? And then you wrote

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<v Speaker 1>the book. Okay, yeah, Leah it's such a trip. So

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<v Speaker 1>now in listening to your experience and everything that you

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<v Speaker 1>went through, I totally understand how we got into that clash,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And it's just it's just showing me over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again at that how kindness is always the

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<v Speaker 1>way because you don't know what people are going through period.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really truly deeply apologize. I should have thought

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<v Speaker 1>about the names in the book. I should have thought

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<v Speaker 1>about what that meant for you guys, and I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, I love you anyway, and I love you anyway. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the other thing that I'm learning from this is

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<v Speaker 1>just having the courage to show that vulnerability. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>easy because when you do, especially as women, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're we need to stit together. We don't see a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot of that, you know, publicly. You know, both

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<v Speaker 1>of us are strong freaking warriors, you know, and it

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<v Speaker 1>takes a little softness and gentleness to to just lay

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<v Speaker 1>it down. And the moment, the moment Dwayne Martin said

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<v Speaker 1>to me that you reached out to him, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna grab this moment. Thank you, But it was you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know that you were really such a huge

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<v Speaker 1>person in this because I don't think I would have

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<v Speaker 1>done that, but you did, and that is that's huge.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, damn near fifty kind of feeling like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just for the first time really finding out who

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<v Speaker 1>I really am as opposed to what has been taught

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<v Speaker 1>to me. It's even just being a mom now because

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter is now the most important thing. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Well you hope you also learned I'm selfish as all hell,

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<v Speaker 1>and I realized that a lot. Okay, Like even when

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<v Speaker 1>she's talking to me at the end of day, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>is she still like she's just talking at me, like

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a run on sentence like, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that amazing? Right? You just got me out of

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<v Speaker 1>my self absorbed little world that I'm right, And there's

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<v Speaker 1>such a gift in that way. Absolutely. I I have

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you, my daughter has taught me so much.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really had to learn through my kids how

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<v Speaker 1>to access my more vulnerable side, you know, because they

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<v Speaker 1>happen to be super affectionate kids and I didn't grow

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<v Speaker 1>up that way, you know, And so my journey has

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<v Speaker 1>been through my children to get to um just that gooey,

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerable soft, you know, because how we both have grown up.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see that you've had some tough things to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with, and I know you have to, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it creates that kind of hard exterior. I realized their

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<v Speaker 1>therapy that I have to deal with the paint right right,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't allowed to deal with pain. Right in scientology.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dealing now for the first time in my life

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<v Speaker 1>and therapy that I do have pain from not having

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<v Speaker 1>a father, but I've never dealt with the pain of him.

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<v Speaker 1>I just pushed it aside. I go, well, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>a bad father. Many people have bad fathers, but I

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<v Speaker 1>never really saw that that might be dictating how I

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<v Speaker 1>look at men, how I treat men. There's an argument

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<v Speaker 1>because I've had to deal with my father issues in

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<v Speaker 1>in in that way of just not bringing the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that I went through with my father into my relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with Will or my sons. You know, So I totally

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<v Speaker 1>hear you on that. Yeah, it's a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's dealing with that childhood trauma that I never really

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<v Speaker 1>dealt with, and being ripped from my home and my

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<v Speaker 1>life and going into scientology and I have, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I fight. I had to because I didn't have somebody fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I'm starting to learn. You don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to fight every fight, Leah, because I've not had third

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<v Speaker 1>seasons of shows because I was climbing over a table

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<v Speaker 1>in a boardroom going, I will punch you when you're

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give it about the show. And I'm proud

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<v Speaker 1>of that side of myself because I don't put up

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<v Speaker 1>a boat this business. But I was, I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't actually like that side of me. I like the

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<v Speaker 1>intention behind it, but I don't like the way I'm

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<v Speaker 1>coming at it like a fighter. Got it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mind being it, but not in a damn business meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>I told it. You know what, Leah, I so good.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the little razor inside. Yes. When I turned forty,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a just a complete out of midlife crisis,

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<v Speaker 1>like everything in my life was just upside down, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm ready to take off the vest

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<v Speaker 1>with the explosives because literally that's how I had been

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<v Speaker 1>walking around all my life, like say something else, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>blow us all the Exactly. I have the same mentality,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's it's from all that pain, yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just that little girl in us that's raging, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to get past the moment when

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<v Speaker 1>it happens. And so with my therapist, she said, you're

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<v Speaker 1>missing something. You just need to find out what you're missing,

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<v Speaker 1>just in those moments. Just ask yourself or ask the

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<v Speaker 1>person that's saying these things or antagonizing you. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we missing here? What do you think? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand. That's lesson. It's a good lesson because I

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<v Speaker 1>will definitely say you showed me that today, like I

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<v Speaker 1>totally I missed it. I missed her too. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful thing, you know. And I say, that's just never

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<v Speaker 1>too late, you know, for friends, for families. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just never too late to heal Leah. Yes, man,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you, thank you. I want to hug

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<v Speaker 1>you back. This is great. Yeah, thank you. On our

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<v Speaker 1>next red Table talk, why black women and white women

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<v Speaker 1>have such a difficult time women of color Sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they don't want to be my friend. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not interested. Oh, get over the idea that you are white.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one race, you know what. You need to shut up? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you, sorry, I saw you cry in there crying.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna that's what happens if you get old. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so good to see and I am tired. I really

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