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Speaker 2: Awards season is always interesting to me when it comes to,

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Speaker 2: you know, Oscars or Grammys when it comes to that,

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Speaker 2: because I'm just someone who just doesn't need that type

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Speaker 2: of validation. Like like if if Sinners runs it up

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Speaker 2: at the Oscars, I will be very very happy for them. Great,

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Speaker 2: Like if fucking Clips runs it up at the Grammys, great,

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Speaker 2: But if it doesn't work either way, for that, it's

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Speaker 2: like it doesn't really matter to me. Like that's pretty

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Speaker 2: much how how I view awards, Like it's awesome if

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Speaker 2: if if the folks I'm rooting for a win, if

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Speaker 2: they don't fuck.

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Speaker 3: Them, so you're invincible. Yes, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: I really could not lose.

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Speaker 2: But for me with Sinners, like I don't want to

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Speaker 2: speak for the cast there, because I'm sure that these

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Speaker 2: accolades mean a lot to them. If this is your craft,

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Speaker 2: is your professionists, what you're put into.

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Speaker 4: And it's big for the bag too, Like yes, in

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Speaker 4: a particular way, you know they got to charge they

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Speaker 4: can charge more.

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Speaker 2: Feel for sure, but I've just and especially on a

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Speaker 2: movie like this there it's just it's so plain as

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Speaker 2: day that the criticism is rooted along like racial lines

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Speaker 2: when you when you see the discourse surrounding it. I

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Speaker 2: watched Centers and I was like, Bro, I was like,

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Speaker 2: this is an instant classic in black cinema, right, and

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Speaker 2: I and and personally I do not care how non

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Speaker 2: black people feel about that, like the same way I

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Speaker 2: don't care how non black people feel about color purple,

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Speaker 2: or about how they feel about Friday or coming to America.

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Speaker 3: Almost anything, especially with I was like I.

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Speaker 2: Said, I left Sinners Blown the funk away, and I

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Speaker 2: was like, this is an instant classic in black cinema.

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Speaker 2: This is I mean, is it not the greatest black

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Speaker 2: horror movie of all time already? Like if we're talking that,

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Speaker 2: like the most iconic at least, like you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. So I came wait from that with like, Yo,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Cooler gave black folks something that is going to

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Speaker 2: be a staple forever, and that's all that matters to

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Speaker 2: me with that.

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Speaker 3: With that movie, Bro, you sorry, no, no, go ahead,

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Speaker 3: go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say that the other threat of

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Speaker 1: the discourse was that it was a good for like

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Speaker 1: a popcorn movie, but not as a serious piece of cinema,

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Speaker 1: which which prompted Tyler had the only smart and funny

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Speaker 1: comment on this.

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna read his tweet in front of him

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 1: A movie about a woman fucking an alien fishman won

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Speaker 1: Best Picture and got thirteen nominations one year.

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Speaker 3: I watch it is. I didn't even know the fishman

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Speaker 3: fucker movie.

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Speaker 1: I had thirteen noms until I googled it because there

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Speaker 1: was no uproar about it.

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Speaker 3: Why is there a battle to.

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Speaker 1: Defend prestige films from sinners that no one wanted to

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Speaker 1: defend prestige films from alien Tilapia Dick.

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Speaker 3: Comes to town. You're the actual best serious? Even the

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Speaker 3: tweet he had.

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Speaker 4: A text he had and the end of it, I

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Speaker 4: forget exactly what it was, but I was like, Tyler

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Speaker 4: is the best and summing up these subjects, pointing out

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Speaker 4: how ridiculous it is while making you laugh, You know

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Speaker 4: what I mean?

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Speaker 3: But I was watching.

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Speaker 4: I watched the video talking of about how people usually

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Speaker 4: connect with things they can see themselves in, and white

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Speaker 4: people don't see themselves very much in that episode, and

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Speaker 4: that even even the ship that is speaking to them,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying in these movies, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean?

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Speaker 3: So they could watch a movie see the.

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Speaker 4: Things we see and it doesn't hit them because it

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Speaker 4: doesn't really register with them, you feel me, But for.

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Speaker 5: Me, I don't know about I don't if for a

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Speaker 5: them to say it's a popcorn film, like, there is

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Speaker 5: so much depth to that story.

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Speaker 3: And also how it was shown was.

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Speaker 4: Like some of the shots reminded me of Revenant, where

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Speaker 4: I'm like, this shot was made to win, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: For like this shot was that they thought this is

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Speaker 3: such a beautiful shot.

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Speaker 4: So for them to minimize in that way, it's just

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Speaker 4: playing racism, like like you just can't you know, It's

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Speaker 4: just it's just pure hate because the depth of the

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Speaker 4: movie is there.

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Speaker 3: The way it was shot was beautiful, very intentional and thoughtful.

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Speaker 3: I mean, a popcorn movie.

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Speaker 4: It's everything but a fucking popcorn movie.

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Speaker 3: I remember my.

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Speaker 1: Mom, this is a weird movie to make a serious

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Speaker 1: point about. But I remember when like the Nutty Professor.

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Speaker 3: Came out, my mom was like, look at how differently

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Speaker 3: people talk.

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Speaker 1: About Eddie Murphy being in a fat suit versus how

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Speaker 1: they would talk about a white actor getting into a

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Speaker 1: fat suit, and like, sure enough, Brendan Fraser right gets

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Speaker 1: in a fat suit for that movie The Great Movie.

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Speaker 3: Oh my God, Oh he's willing. And then Michael B.

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Speaker 1: Jordan it plays two protagonists opposite himself.

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Speaker 3: In a movie.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, it's a camera trick, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: a little movie trick they do, you know, tricky. It's

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Speaker 1: just like like black innovation on the technical side will

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Speaker 1: never be regarded in the same way, which is why

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Speaker 1: the Tyler point, like I just.

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Speaker 3: Gave up a long time ago on award.

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Speaker 1: Shit, I still like you said, I if I like

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Speaker 1: a movie, like I'm rooting for sinners to win stuff,

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Speaker 1: but I don't like all.

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Speaker 4: That's just a circle jerking away. I never really feel

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Speaker 4: like I think it's honestly kind of weird to me.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, like the only reason I want people to

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Speaker 4: win these things and so they're bad can be so

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Speaker 4: they can get stamped and get that get that money,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But yeah, I don't personally

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Speaker 4: feel like Tyler said, validated by any of their opinions

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Speaker 4: on what's good or not.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I don't trust they taste anyway, Honestly,