WEBVTT - Alan Bersten

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<v Speaker 1>I can bring institutes. All that's okay, becaus no one here.

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<v Speaker 2>Is welcome all my Fanielle dishals. Just go with it, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I think people will dig it. It's time for another

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<v Speaker 2>teen beat. I am your host, Danielle Fischel, a podcaster,

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<v Speaker 2>former sitcom star, a TV director, and the unforgettable eighth

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<v Speaker 2>place celebrity on season thirty four of Dancing with the Stars.

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<v Speaker 2>More on that soon. This year podcast has me sitting

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<v Speaker 2>with interesting people who have done interesting things in hopes

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<v Speaker 2>of diving into their origin story, even the awkward years

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<v Speaker 2>of childhood, because we all well know where we've been

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<v Speaker 2>will tell us where we're at and maybe even where

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<v Speaker 2>we're going. I see it like this, I gave you

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<v Speaker 2>my childhood. It's time we hear yours. And this week

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<v Speaker 2>I get to have a conversation with a peer of mine,

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<v Speaker 2>a fellow professional dancer. We share a passion for the craft.

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<v Speaker 2>He began professionally dancing at just seven years old part

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<v Speaker 2>of a now legendary Minnesota ballroom family, and debuted on

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<v Speaker 2>TV as part of So You Think You Can Dance

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty thirteen, but his real journey began as part

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<v Speaker 2>of the Dancing with the Stars Troop in season twenty

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<v Speaker 2>then as a fan favorite pro in season twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>With a past lineup of celebrities that includes Debbie Gibson,

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<v Speaker 2>Amanda Kluts, Jamie Lynn Spears, Alana mar and Elaine Hendrix.

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<v Speaker 2>He's always one half of a couple guaranteed to bring

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<v Speaker 2>the heat, most notably in season twenty eight when he

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<v Speaker 2>won it all alongside Hannah Brown, and now with the

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<v Speaker 2>show in an all time fever pitch amongst new spinoffs

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<v Speaker 2>and fan conventions like July thirty first through August second

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<v Speaker 2>and Palm Springs. Limited tickets still available at dwts con

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. The world is my guest's oyster. We share

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<v Speaker 2>a love for three things, masterful dancing, Emma Slater, and

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<v Speaker 2>watch us. He is my favorite Jewish dancer since Paula Abdul.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to teen Beat, Alan Burston.

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<v Speaker 3>What an intro. I'm so impressed. I love it, you

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<v Speaker 3>love it? I love it. Okay, good, I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>a whole episode. We can actually got there.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrap it up. He's ready to go home.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great, so good to see you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so good to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we got to spend quite a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>time together on tour, which was amazing, But it now

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like that was a whole lifetime ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. I feel like every year it's just like

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<v Speaker 3>three different lifetimes happen. Yeah, season, the tour.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in between and then in between time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, I feel like our time was so valued.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, it was so valued. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for sitting down with me. This is long overdue, and

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<v Speaker 2>any chance I get to hang out with you, I

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<v Speaker 2>will take. So we are going to cover a lot today.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm always very interested in how our childhoods shaped

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<v Speaker 2>who we are today. I have always imagined you grew

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<v Speaker 2>up in like a real Partridge family situation, everyone on

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<v Speaker 2>a bus traveling state to state, dancing for crowds.

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<v Speaker 3>Am I right? Yeah? You know. I was the youngest

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<v Speaker 3>of three siblings, and I kind of just followed in

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<v Speaker 3>the footsteps of my older brother, you know, dancing, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>My parents just kind of put us in a studio

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<v Speaker 3>one day and we're like, hey, you guys are ballroom

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<v Speaker 3>dancing though. Yeah, and it wasn't very cool in Minnesota, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but it turned out pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it worked out pretty well, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know. We would travel like in the Midwest

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<v Speaker 3>a lot, like in a van and go to competitions.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you know that this is weird? I never

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<v Speaker 3>told anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>I do my research. Baby, So you started dancing at seven?

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<v Speaker 2>Your older brother was already immersed kind of No.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we all started together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, and your parents helped create it by seeking

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<v Speaker 2>instructors throughout the state and encouraging teachers to come and visit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, why you are good.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it like growing up in a house where

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<v Speaker 2>everyone shared this artistic goal?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I think my parents just saw the passion we

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<v Speaker 3>had and they're like, we don't know how else to

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<v Speaker 3>do it, then give them everything that we can. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they were very you know, just driven to

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<v Speaker 3>help us follow our passions.

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<v Speaker 2>How did they see the passion you had? Were you

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<v Speaker 2>guys just dancing around the house all the time? Were

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<v Speaker 2>you watching them?

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<v Speaker 3>I will tell you. I think. So. We're very close

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<v Speaker 3>with like, oh, I call them our cousins, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>like my mom's we call her sister, but it's really

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<v Speaker 3>probably her like first cousin, her first cousin. Okay, but whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>We would always hang out every weekend, and my brother.

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<v Speaker 3>They have two children. My one guy is my brother's

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<v Speaker 3>age and one girl is my sister's age. So they

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<v Speaker 3>were always like best friends and we and I was

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<v Speaker 3>always the youngest one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you were the one who was told you got

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<v Speaker 2>to play the dog when you play house. Exactly, you

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<v Speaker 2>could be the dog exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but we would always try to stay at each

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<v Speaker 3>other's houses for like five extra minutes, and we'd be, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna put on a dance show for you guys,

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<v Speaker 3>And this is before we even danced. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>it just kind of fell into place.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. I remember doing that, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>as kids with my cousins who were I had one

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<v Speaker 2>cousin who's a year older than me and a cousin

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<v Speaker 2>who's year younger than me, and I was right in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle. So we the three girls inseparable, and we

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<v Speaker 2>would always do the same thing, watch our dance, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's some ridiculous, but absolutely we used In California,

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<v Speaker 2>we had a pool in the backyard, and so mine

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<v Speaker 2>would always end. I'd do them in the backyard and

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<v Speaker 2>they'd always end with a dive into the water, and

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<v Speaker 2>which at least you have that and to dry off

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<v Speaker 2>swim exactly, so that that's pretty cool. Your sister Melanie

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<v Speaker 2>danced as a kid, but she had she had to

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<v Speaker 2>go become a doctor of pharmacy. Why, I mean, why

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<v Speaker 2>did she choose to do that? Did you guys make

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<v Speaker 2>fun of her for being too smart?

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<v Speaker 3>No, she was the only one that was smart enough

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<v Speaker 3>to go to school. You know. I think me and

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<v Speaker 3>my brother tried, but we I don't know. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>explain it. I just I can only speak for myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I just love performing and connecting and I was not

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<v Speaker 3>very motivated in school, but I was good at it.

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<v Speaker 3>I did exactly what I needed to do, so I can.

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<v Speaker 2>Go dance, right, But then when it was over, you

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<v Speaker 2>were like, I don't need to do that ever again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not itching to go back to school, right

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<v Speaker 3>my mom wants me to?

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<v Speaker 2>But no, Mom, does your brother call with notes after

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<v Speaker 2>your performances?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Yes, so does my mom though really?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, your mom considers herself to be a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of an expert now, Oh, she for sure is.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, it makes sense though, because she's

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<v Speaker 3>who watches the show. Yeah, you know, and like you

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<v Speaker 3>want to obviously cater to to professional dancers, but at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the day, you want to connect to

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<v Speaker 3>the audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So do you call your mom when you when

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<v Speaker 2>you find out who your new partner is and then

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<v Speaker 2>be like, mom, help me, what do you think I

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<v Speaker 2>should do to appeal to the masses.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's really cool when I can call my mom

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, this person's on the show and she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>no way. You know, she's excited, so it is. It

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<v Speaker 3>is nice. She'll always tell me she she could have

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<v Speaker 3>pointed her toes a little bit better, and like.

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<v Speaker 5>Really, come mom, Okay, does she get those ideas just

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<v Speaker 5>from herself watching as a fan, or does she take

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<v Speaker 5>what the judges say and then go, yeah, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 5>know that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe she didn't point her toes, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's she just notices things. She she would

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<v Speaker 3>watch us compete when we were growing up. She always

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<v Speaker 3>traveled with us, and so she's got the inside.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, inflation, she really knows what she's looking at. I

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<v Speaker 2>know you are also a sports fan, and growing up

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<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota, you have a plethora of teams to root for.

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<v Speaker 2>You also have arguably the most robust youth hockey program

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<v Speaker 2>in the US, and I have run into this problem

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<v Speaker 2>with my oldest son, who wants to do everything. How

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<v Speaker 2>do you pick your hobby? You focused on dance, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're also very well rounded, So I'm wondering how did

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<v Speaker 2>you navigate that as a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I didn't, you know. I danced. I tried drums

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<v Speaker 3>for a second, I tried guitar. I feel like my

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<v Speaker 3>parents were like, you can't get hurt in ballroom dancing.

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<v Speaker 3>My brother did a little bit more. He played football

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<v Speaker 3>growing up, but I remember he like hurt his hip,

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<v Speaker 3>and then my mom was like, no one's ever playing

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<v Speaker 3>sports again. We're a bubble family exactly. We are just dancing.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't hurt yourself that bad dancing. You can?

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<v Speaker 2>You can, you can have you hurt yourself pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Would I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>If I did, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably blacked it out. It's gone. But it's like I like,

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<v Speaker 3>in my later years, I was like, I wish I

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<v Speaker 3>played piano, and so I started playing piano, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is way too hard to learn at this age,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I know so much easier as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>As a kid, do you have long fingers.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got big hands.

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<v Speaker 2>You do a big hands? Yeah, you have piano hands.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, except I think they're too big, so they press

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<v Speaker 3>multiple keys?

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<v Speaker 2>Got it? And you're like exactly, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I can do it. It's just I'm a memory

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<v Speaker 3>kind of guy. It's hard for me to read notes.

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<v Speaker 3>So I wish I did.

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<v Speaker 2>As a kid, right, I know. I also wish I

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<v Speaker 2>learned multiple languages as a kid. You speak, I speak Russrussian.

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<v Speaker 2>You speak Russian and English. Do you remember any particularly

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<v Speaker 2>embarrassing moments from high school? Or have you also blacked

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<v Speaker 2>all of those out?

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<v Speaker 3>Also? Those are blacked out? For sure. I was not

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<v Speaker 3>a popular kid, if you can imagine. Really.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it's because of the ballroom?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? For sure? Okay, And I was just a weird kid.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you like as a kid?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I started by going to it I from first

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<v Speaker 3>or from kindergarten until eighth grade. I went to a

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<v Speaker 3>Jewish private school. Okay, and so like me, I was

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<v Speaker 3>very like one of my best friends. Still, we went

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<v Speaker 3>to school there together, and then we went to high

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<v Speaker 3>school together. We went to a public high school.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you had been very sheltered in a small,

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<v Speaker 2>private Jewish elementary and junior high and then.

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<v Speaker 3>Were straight into high school.

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<v Speaker 2>Right plopped into a public high school.

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<v Speaker 3>As it was not I was definitely a fish out

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<v Speaker 3>of water, okay, but it was it was whatever, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I really found my community in dance and my good

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<v Speaker 3>friends in school, you know. But by no means it

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<v Speaker 3>was like cool for dancing.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you go to any high school dances.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't, not a single one. No, I would have

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<v Speaker 3>been really cool if I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Probably not actually have any high school girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but like it was again, it was more of

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<v Speaker 3>like I was always in dance, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, so your friends are like dance, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And we were traveling like at least once or twice

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<v Speaker 3>a month. Yeah, and so I was like always you know,

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<v Speaker 3>gone for these like the prom and homecoming. I was

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<v Speaker 3>always gone, so I never got to go.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's I mean, in some ways, that's really nice

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<v Speaker 2>because you had a well established community where you shared

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<v Speaker 2>common interests with these people and you had them consistently.

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<v Speaker 2>And then school was just kind of the place you

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<v Speaker 2>went to for education and you had some good friends there,

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<v Speaker 2>so you weren't like a lone wolf.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was close, but I had three good friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I am legally obligated to talk to you about

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<v Speaker 2>the Mall of America because so were you a frequenter

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<v Speaker 2>of the Mall of America Mother of America.

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<v Speaker 3>Like growing up, there was a competition that was actually

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<v Speaker 3>in the Mall of America. So we would go a

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<v Speaker 3>few like there and then we would ride rides and

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<v Speaker 3>go dance. And I was like ten years old, so

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<v Speaker 3>it was like really fun. Yeah, because I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if you know this. In All of America, there is

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<v Speaker 3>like an amusement park.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I know, I've been there. I did an autograph

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<v Speaker 2>signing there as a team. It's the greatest thing ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I also ate twelve mini Cinnabonds from the mall.

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<v Speaker 3>That's specifical, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll always think about it as the Mall of America thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you throw up from the twelve Cinnabons? Because that's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot. Actually, I had sex. My mom and

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<v Speaker 2>I shared a box of twenty so yeah, it's cut

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<v Speaker 2>that in half a fan and we were hungry.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, it's I think like when you're there, it's

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<v Speaker 3>so big and there's so many people that, like, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't really want to go there to shop I know, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you possibly? Also, if you buy something now you're

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<v Speaker 2>lugging it miles of mall.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I've been many, many times.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you say is your favorite attraction there?

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<v Speaker 3>So when I was there, it was called Camp Snoopy,

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<v Speaker 3>the traction place, and there was it was like an

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<v Speaker 3>axe and I think it was like Paul Blart and

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<v Speaker 3>Paul Blart he's a Minnesota folk tale I think. But

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<v Speaker 3>he had like an axe, I think, And there's a

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<v Speaker 3>ride that was an axe and it would like hold

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<v Speaker 3>you upside down. It was cool.

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<v Speaker 2>What would the Paul Blart ride be? And that would

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<v Speaker 2>be really fun to actually, you know what you're not

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<v Speaker 2>You're not wrong, honestly that I would too. It reminds

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<v Speaker 2>me kind of like when you can surf in place.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh could do that with segues. That'd be so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever eat at Hulk Hogan's Pastumania?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it opened in the food court in nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 2>five and it featured items like Hulk ewes and Hulk

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<v Speaker 2>coroni and cheese. I must have missed that, but it

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<v Speaker 2>closed less than a year later.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't be surprised. I was born in ninety four,

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<v Speaker 3>So okay, it would have been very I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Would never remember. I couldn't chew it got born in

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<v Speaker 2>ninety four. Get the hell out of here. What did

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<v Speaker 2>you do for fun in Minnesota as a kid? Did

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<v Speaker 2>you go to the state Fair?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the best?

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<v Speaker 2>It was a very good state It still is.

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<v Speaker 3>I I mean, I feel like if I went there,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll gain fifteen pounds in the day. You know, No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's they have the best cookies. There's like a bucket

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<v Speaker 3>of cookies. You get unlimited milk, and it was delicious.

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<v Speaker 3>But they have everything on.

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<v Speaker 2>A stick, unlimited milks. You sit there and you sit there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you said.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like if I have a bucket, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to put it on my arm like a cute bag

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<v Speaker 2>and just eat as I go about.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you do too. You get one for there

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<v Speaker 3>and one to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh great, it's harder to dip the milk on the

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<v Speaker 2>to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Box, it is. Yeah, you find a way?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you find a way? Okay? Sorry, I'm hungry.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen. I've never said no to good cookies.

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<v Speaker 2>So what did you do for fun? Other than a

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<v Speaker 2>state fair moment?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? We would dance a lot. That was fun

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<v Speaker 3>ride my bike. I feel like that was really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>How old were you when you learned how to ride your.

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<v Speaker 3>Bike out the womb?

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<v Speaker 2>Really, you just have no memories where you didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>how to ride.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no memories not knowing how to ride a bike.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, do you remember learning how to ride? No, it

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<v Speaker 2>was just like instant, obviously coordinated, I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>I genuinely could not tell you. I remember, I remember

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<v Speaker 3>putting like the baseball card in the back spokes to

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<v Speaker 3>make it sound cool sound, but that I don't Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember learning.

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<v Speaker 2>My seven year old still doesn't know how to ride

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<v Speaker 2>a bike, but that's because we also don't ever ride bikes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a bit of a problem, like he rides bikes anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And also we don't have sidewalks yea. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, but we're not going to learn in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the street.

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<v Speaker 3>No. And I feel like in Minnesota there's so much

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<v Speaker 3>more space, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do feel like I'm a bad parent. If

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<v Speaker 2>you don't teach your kid how to ride a bike, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Have I mean, he will talk about it in his

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<v Speaker 3>memory for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom to Panga never taught me to ride a

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<v Speaker 2>bike is the name of his memoy. He's already working

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<v Speaker 2>on it. Do you have an opinion? Back to food?

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<v Speaker 2>This is my favorite. Do you have an opinion on

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<v Speaker 2>the best juicy lucy in Minneapolis? We have eaten at

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<v Speaker 2>Mats and the Nook. I don't know if you're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to like this.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what a juicy lucy is.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, allow me to explain.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember I'm Russian. I did not eat a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of fast food or restaurants.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, juicy lucy is a hamburger that has the cheese

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Patty, as opposed to what there is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Juicy lucy cut into it and the cheese oozes out

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<v Speaker 2>of the mist. And it originated in Minneapolis.

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<v Speaker 3>This should be bigger. I don't know why it's not

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<v Speaker 3>big enough. It should be bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be bigger. Well, I'll tell you I have

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<v Speaker 2>been to two places, Matt's and the Nook, both a plus.

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<v Speaker 2>So next time you're back.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how you can go wrong with cheese

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<v Speaker 3>in a cheese breer. I know, the more cheese the better.

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<v Speaker 3>Couldn't agree more so the Nook, I'll have to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>So you compete throughout your childhood and you end up

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<v Speaker 2>as a contestant. So you think you can dance season

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen in twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, so close? Season ten?

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<v Speaker 2>Season ten? Oh you know why because I got twenty

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen and it's like season ten in twenty third.

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<v Speaker 3>On it, on it, but now you're still on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll okay. Jenna Johnson was also on that season You

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<v Speaker 2>make it to the top twelve, Yes, but now TV

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<v Speaker 2>is in the equation. Did you love the addition of

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<v Speaker 2>being on TV through all this?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely? I think I was nineteen years old. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 3>just turned nineteen. And you know, my brother was already

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<v Speaker 3>running the dance studio.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were born in ninety four and it's twenty ten.

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<v Speaker 3>No, twenty thirteen, season ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, season ten?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah he is.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to correct you on your mauth. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you were sixteen, got it?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No, I was nineteen, and like I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I want to dance. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>it leads to. Obviously dance when the stars is there,

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<v Speaker 3>so you think he's there. My brother also did the

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<v Speaker 3>show called Burn the Floor. Huh, And I was like

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to dance. I want to perform. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what it is. And then last minute I

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<v Speaker 3>literally got a stand by flight to the audition for

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<v Speaker 3>so you're thinking you dance. It was in Boston and

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<v Speaker 3>barely made it in.

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<v Speaker 2>The door is closing and you slid your way in.

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<v Speaker 3>So my brother auditioned earlier and they kind of brought

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<v Speaker 3>him back. He auditioned with his wife. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if you remember the show, but like, if you audition

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<v Speaker 3>and you're really good, you go straight to Vegas. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you're like, oh, we like you, but we want

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<v Speaker 3>to see you do another round. In the audition, there's

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<v Speaker 3>like a big dance. They put you with a partner.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to do that, okay, So I was like crawl,

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<v Speaker 3>clawing my mind. Yeah, and my brother and his wife

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<v Speaker 3>obviously I had to do a solo my like they

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<v Speaker 3>danced together. I dance by myself, and ballroom's very hard

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<v Speaker 3>by yourself. Yeah, I'll it's also hard. If not by yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>it's hard.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just hard.

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<v Speaker 3>But so I I.

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<v Speaker 2>Did did you do? What dance? Did you do solo?

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<v Speaker 3>I did a samba?

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<v Speaker 2>I think okay, so you did your own body roll multiple.

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<v Speaker 3>Body multiple body rolls are there, and it was just

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<v Speaker 3>you know again, it was like I think my mind,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I'm young. Whatever happens, happens, I'm gonna try. I

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<v Speaker 3>really want it, but like whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I mean that is obvious by fly and standby. Yeah,

0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:09.360
<v Speaker 2>you're like, let's see if I get on this exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I didn't really believe until we got to Vegas

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, Okay, I really want to do

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<v Speaker 3>this now, like I really think this is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be something amazing. Me and my brother made it all

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<v Speaker 3>the way to the end. It was called Green Mile,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like before they picked the top twenty okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and they like brought us in together and like only

0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:31.600
<v Speaker 3>one of you can make it, you know the drama

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<v Speaker 3>of course, do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>They manufactured that from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I mean, it would have been cool

0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:40.160
<v Speaker 3>to have two brothers on. Yeah, I know, but I'm

0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.920
<v Speaker 3>assuming they were like, oh, this is gonna be good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, they took me, and honestly probably the

0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:51.000
<v Speaker 3>right choice just because he already had a kid, like

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<v Speaker 3>he had the studio, like he was a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>older than now what everyone else was on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, like I was nineteen and I was the

0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:05.359
<v Speaker 3>age that everyone wants exactly, but he's a phenomenal dancer,

0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:08.560
<v Speaker 3>so it was just more like casting casting, you know,

0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.760
<v Speaker 3>and then I was like, Okay, I don't know what

0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:14.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing now, and it was just it was I

0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.720
<v Speaker 3>would say it was an incredible experience. I was very

0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:22.080
<v Speaker 3>tough on myself, so I didn't enjoy it, oh, you know,

0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:23.720
<v Speaker 3>and I think a lot of people that go through

0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.640
<v Speaker 3>it are like, I have to do the best otherwise

0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.199
<v Speaker 3>my career is over. And then you finish and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I would have enjoyed that a little bit more. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what I do a lot more on Dancing

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<v Speaker 3>with the Stars now, is like enjoy it, yeah, because

0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:40.200
<v Speaker 3>it is. It is tough. You've been through it. It's stressful,

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<v Speaker 3>but it is one of the most remarkable and beautiful

0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:47.520
<v Speaker 3>and uplifting shows there is, and you learn so much

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<v Speaker 3>about yourself and.

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<v Speaker 2>Also as just a personality and a person. Life is

0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:56.359
<v Speaker 2>so much more enjoyable when we can just take a

0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:59.160
<v Speaker 2>deep breath and laugh at our like laughter makes everything

0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:02.399
<v Speaker 2>feel better. If we're taking it too seriously and judging

0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:06.159
<v Speaker 2>ourselves too harshly. That's those are not enjoyable days. You know,

0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:07.639
<v Speaker 2>we're all going to have them, and we're all going

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.000
<v Speaker 2>to have moments where we go, Man, I'm bummed with myself.

0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:11.520
<v Speaker 2>I stayed up too late, I didn't show up as

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<v Speaker 2>well as I could have. I didn't push myself as

0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.119
<v Speaker 2>hard as I needed to. I'm disappointed in myself, but

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<v Speaker 2>like as a whole to like enjoy the process.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the best thing you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially, like you said, when your entire year ends up

0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:27.359
<v Speaker 2>feeling like three stages of life. One of them is

0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:32.040
<v Speaker 2>the season while it's going, which is you know four months, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>between all the weeks of the show and then the

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<v Speaker 2>weeks where you start to get to rehearse before it's

0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.720
<v Speaker 2>really looking at four months, and then a four month tour.

0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.320
<v Speaker 2>If you're being hard on yourself through all of that,

0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:44.280
<v Speaker 2>you're being hard on yourself through two thirds of your life.

0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:47.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And you you know, again, if you are just

0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:51.000
<v Speaker 3>looking for the result of things, you miss the beauty

0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:54.000
<v Speaker 3>of it, you know. And I think the season, you know,

0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:58.600
<v Speaker 3>even last season for example, everyone that was a part

0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:01.639
<v Speaker 3>of it, I feel like one yeah, you know, everyone

0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:06.879
<v Speaker 3>left the show either feeling better, doing new opportunities.

0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Even if you didn't win the show, there's so many

0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:12.840
<v Speaker 3>beautiful outcomes that came from it, yep, that it's like

0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:15.639
<v Speaker 3>just being a part of it and enjoying it is winning.

0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Couldn't agree with you more two years later than after,

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.439
<v Speaker 2>So I think you can dance. You joined the troop

0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:24.760
<v Speaker 2>of Dancing with the Stars, Yes, thrown right into it.

0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember your first impressions of this insane, beautiful universe?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I actually remember vividly. So I was doing some

0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.879
<v Speaker 3>little dance tour. They were like, hey, do you want

0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:42.160
<v Speaker 3>to audition for the show. It'll be like a little interview,

0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:45.560
<v Speaker 3>and I was like absolutely absolutely. I flew back to

0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:48.040
<v Speaker 3>LA because I was traveling. I don't remember where I was,

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.560
<v Speaker 3>did this like audition and I was like like, this

0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 3>is my dream, Like I really want to be on

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:58.800
<v Speaker 3>Dancing with the Stars. Some time goes by, like maybe

0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:02.879
<v Speaker 3>a few weeks. I was actually a dancer on Glee

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 3>at the time. Yes, And I remember being on set

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:09.200
<v Speaker 3>for Glee and like getting a call and it was like, Hey,

0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:11.720
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna be on Dancing with the Stars. You're gonna

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:12.960
<v Speaker 3>be on Troop. And I was like Oh my god,

0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:14.639
<v Speaker 3>this is the best thing in the world.

0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:16.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, all your dreams coming true on set of

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Glee truly like dreams come true.

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.919
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, being on the show is like

0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:26.160
<v Speaker 3>the dream come true. You know, I'm just so happy.

0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:28.840
<v Speaker 3>And then it's like okay. Then so I was on

0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:31.480
<v Speaker 3>Troop and then it was like, Okay, the next dream

0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 3>is to be a pro. I mean, I will say

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:38.400
<v Speaker 3>being on Troop was the best thing because you learn

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 3>so much. It's really hard to just go in as

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 3>a pro, not really knowing what you're doing. It's your

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 3>first time. It's the celebrities first time. When you're on troop,

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 3>you get to see it firsthand, you get to experience it.

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:53.679
<v Speaker 3>I stepped in a few times as Troop, so I

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 3>got that firsthand experience.

0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it was just mean to replace a pro.

0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I think first it happened with Mark Yeah,

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 3>he got he got injured, and I danced with Page

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:09.919
<v Speaker 3>and then in season twenty four Max got injured and

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:13.680
<v Speaker 3>I stepped in with Heather Morris for like three weeks maybe, yeah,

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:15.440
<v Speaker 3>and like I had to choreograph my own.

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Dances and everything and good experience.

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 3>So great, and Heather was unbelievable. Yeah, so it was like,

0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:25.000
<v Speaker 3>just go out and do it and you don't have

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 3>to worry about like her freaking out because she's such

0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:31.000
<v Speaker 3>a such a pro. Yeah, so I got so lucky.

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:35.640
<v Speaker 3>And again, I think the Troop helps build you as

0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 3>a pro.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. I really also think that it would really

0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:41.880
<v Speaker 2>benefit the Troop to be able to let them sit

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 2>in on some of the rehearsals yet, because they I

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 2>mean obviously they're so busy too. They're all they're doing

0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:49.959
<v Speaker 2>dances all throughout the week and everything, but they usually

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 2>just get to see the day of the camera blocking.

0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And in the past, like when I was Troop,

0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 3>I was helping a lot of the celeb a lot

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 3>of the pros choreographing and being in the room, So

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:04.480
<v Speaker 3>back then it was more like that. Yeah. I think

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 3>because of COVID, they like really made sure no one

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 3>was in the room and then it kind of just stuck.

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Like that, because that would be so helpful to see

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 2>the way the pros talk to their celebrities, to see

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:17.119
<v Speaker 2>the way they teach. I mean, that's teaching is a

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:19.199
<v Speaker 2>whole skill set on its own. You could be the

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 2>best dancer in the entire world and not know the

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 2>first thing about teaching.

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.439
<v Speaker 3>And that's I think what is so special about the

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 3>pros on the show. They're also talented. They have to

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:31.640
<v Speaker 3>be incredible dancers, yep, they have to be incredible choreographers,

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 3>and they have to be incredible teachers. Yeah, and therapist.

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 3>So you can mind though, but it's you know, it is,

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:43.400
<v Speaker 3>it's so much. It's multifaceted. Yes it is, and so yeah,

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 3>you can get the best dancer, but if they don't

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:47.960
<v Speaker 3>know how to teach, then then the celebrities out of luck.

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 2>You're also forgetting personalities themselves.

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 3>It's a lot.

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:54.239
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, you guys are I mean talk about we

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.919
<v Speaker 2>say triple threat, but you talk about you guys have

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:57.920
<v Speaker 2>to have like a bion.

0:25:58.800 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, good news. You were promoted in season twenty five

0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 2>with Debbie Gibson as your first celebrity. What was the

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:13.200
<v Speaker 2>biggest lesson you took away from your first season.

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.680
<v Speaker 3>I think the biggest thing I realized was like the pressure.

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 3>So when in season twenty four when I was with Heather,

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 3>there wasn't really any pressure because I wasn't her main partner, right,

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 3>and then when it was like okay, now you have

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:32.680
<v Speaker 3>a main partner you are. Basically it's not as a pro,

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 3>it's not my season. Yeah, you know, at most it's

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 3>our season, but mainly it's it's my celebrity season. You know.

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:43.920
<v Speaker 3>I want to make sure my celebrity has the absolute

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 3>best season. Yeah. And so that is something that I

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 3>learned right away. I was like, this is not about me, right,

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:54.360
<v Speaker 3>you know. And Debbie was the sweetest person out She's wonderful. Yeah,

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 3>she's the best.

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 3>And so that was a great first season. But the

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:02.120
<v Speaker 3>pressure of like, oh, this is fully on me now,

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 3>that's what I realized, And I was like, all right,

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 3>now I know how to really you know, not let

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 3>the pressure get to me and trust myself more.

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, just a few years later, you win a Lenn

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 2>Goodman Mirror Ball Trophy with Bachelorette star Hannah Brown. Yes,

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what a rapid rise to the very top.

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Why do you think that partnership worked so well? And

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 2>what was it about that season that you think got

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:30.640
<v Speaker 2>you guys to the end.

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, so many things. It's not one thing. You know,

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 3>she just came off the Bachelorette. She was the most

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 3>popular thing on television. She's incredible and she worked really

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 3>really hard, you know, and she was very real and

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 3>I think people saw that and people loved her being real.

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:56.640
<v Speaker 3>I think at the end of the day, in order

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 3>for anyone to make it to the end, they just

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 3>have to care. Yeah, you know, no matter what, like

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 3>whether you care for yourself or for for your mom

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:08.119
<v Speaker 3>or for it, you just have to care. You have

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 3>to show up and you have to do it right.

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 3>And then if you're lucky enough and it clicks, then

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 3>it's you know, it just it's magic.

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is. It does feel like the kind of

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 2>thing that is a perfect recipe that it's really hard,

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:24.439
<v Speaker 2>Like there's so many elements that have to fall into

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:27.239
<v Speaker 2>the right place at the right time in order for

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 2>the magic to happen. Yeah, it gets you to the

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 2>end and then to eventually win.

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think everyone's journey is different. Yeah, and

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:36.880
<v Speaker 3>like every season, yeah, there might be like a oh

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 3>I think this person might win, but that changes yep

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 3>every time. I will say, right before I did when

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 3>I won with Hannah. First, we did something called Dancing

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 3>with the Stars Juniors, Oh huh, and I had the sweetest girl,

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Sky Brown, and we won there. So it was like, yeah,

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 3>it was. I started to like realize more.

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 2>You do well with people who have the last name Brown.

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 3>Exactly two wins, two wins with.

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 2>The name Brown. That works for you, No, yeah, okay.

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 3>But also it's just like when people are genuine in themselves,

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 3>it resonates a lot more.

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, people can pick up on that, they can smell

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 2>in authenticity.

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 3>And it's not just with the celebrities. It's with the partnership,

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 3>it's with the pros. Like people can see us more

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 3>than I think people they realize. Yeah, And so like

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 3>when people are there just to enjoy it and have

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 3>passion and purpose, it goes a long way.

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, here we are in a complete renaissance for the

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 2>show the now Emmy nominated season thirty four.

0:29:57.240 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have to say, this is the first year

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 3>in many years that it's Emmy nominated, and it's the

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 3>first year you've been on it.

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, okay, it's me. You think it's me. It's

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 2>gotta be the I'm the missing link. Well listen, I'll

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 2>take it. I mean it was Season thirty four was

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 2>above and beyond. I think what anybody could have imagined

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 2>for the show. You were paired with the Great Elaine

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Hendrix in the sixth most watched TV show of the year. Wow,

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 2>Now is life different for Alan Burston? Now, what is

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 2>your visibility?

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Are you getting stopped everywhere? Because I hear from friends.

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 2>It's how I knew you were in my neighborhood not

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 2>that long ago, because I was at a basketball game

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 2>for my son this past Saturday and a girlfriend of

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 2>mine said to me, oh, I saw Alan. Alan was

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 2>walking into Polo checks this past weekend. I said, well,

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have to ask him, what do you was

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 2>picking up?

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 3>You know what? It's It's so funny. I feel like

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 3>right when I won, yep, I went like on a

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 3>run like a few like a week later and like

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 3>some congrats Alan just on the show, and I was like,

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 3>that's pretty cool. But you know, it's been like whatever,

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 3>nothing crazy. I feel like the last two years when

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 3>I was partner with Alona mar Yes, I was walking

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 3>down Larchmont and everyone, like construction workers were like you, Alan,

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 3>You're so good.

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's so cute that is going on.

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 3>Over here, you know. But it was really just like

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 3>the show did have this resurgence, and whether it's social

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 3>media or or whatever it is, it is just so

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 3>awesome to be a part of. That's not the focus,

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 3>but it's it's definitely cool to see that recognition and like,

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 3>if anyone stops me, I will gladly take a photo

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 3>with them.

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I know you're always so.

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 3>I literally went for a run yesterday and I run

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 3>on Melrose a lot, and like a group of girls were.

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, did you stop your run?

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 3>I didn't finishing, but I definitely said hi, and then

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 3>they messaged.

0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 2>As you mentioned, a lot of the popularity has to

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 2>be thanks to social media. The show is a TikTok phenomenon,

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 2>and for the pros it is like you take on

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 2>a second full time job during the season. Your season

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:17.239
<v Speaker 2>with Elana, you two were incredible online. How important is

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 2>the social media game now? Do you think to going

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 2>far in the competition?

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 3>Let me start with this. I felt when I was

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 3>with Amanda Clutes, I think it was season thirty, we

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 3>made a big effort of like social media, and I

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 3>look back and we posted one TikTok a week and

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 3>I was like, that's a big effort.

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Like you felt like you were like, wow, we're really folks.

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 3>I think we went live on Instagram and TikTok every

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 3>camera blocking day and then we posted like one TikTok

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 3>a week, and I was like, we're doing so much,

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 3>like more than everyone.

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Else flooding the season.

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then I'm like, oh, with Alona we did

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 3>like three videos a day.

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, what the hell did you have time?

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 3>You know? So I think it was also very easy.

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 3>So like with Ilona, we didn't do a lot of

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 3>dance trends. We kind of just did quick personalities videos,

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 3>funny things. I really learned that season of like, just

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 3>post whatever you want. Don't be precious. If it doesn't

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 3>do well, who cares? Just post and be a good person,

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 3>you know. And I think what really resonated was, especially

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 3>with Alona, it was it showed our partnership and it

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 3>gave an avenue outside of just the show. You know,

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 3>you get your minut and a half dance, your minute

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 3>and a half package and whatever questions are in the

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 3>skybox with Julianne all week. You know, that's five minutes maximum.

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 3>And social media now gives you a platform to talk

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 3>about your partnership, talk about struggles, talk about what's going good,

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, having fun and just showing that partnership even more,

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 3>And to me, I think that's the most important thing. Yeah,

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 3>it's not your celebrity and you trying to get the

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 3>most vote. It's like, how can you showcase your partnership? Yeah,

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 3>and it's a lot easier when you actually like each other.

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I can't even imagine what a season would

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 2>have been like if Pasha and I did not get

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot. I really like, what a you? I mean,

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 2>to wake up every day and be so excited to

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 2>see your partner and work with your partner is such

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 2>a blessing to wake up and like dread it.

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 3>That's why it's not like when it goes well, it's

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 3>not hard, it's not work. The hard part is obviously

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 3>learning dances and choreographing and all that. But like being

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 3>in the studio, when time flies it's fun.

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, when you're like, how have we already been

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 2>here for four hours?

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 3>So even though it is four hours a day, when

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 3>it's fun, it's like, give me four more.

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, now you have added pressure because your girlfriend, also,

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:59.280
<v Speaker 2>my love, Emma Slater, is the world's greatest social media guru.

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 2>You bounce ideas off of her.

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, always I'm always First of all, I'm

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 3>she's so eloquent with her words and I'm not so

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, hey, does this capture make sense? Like do

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 3>I sound like an idiot? And she helps because I'm not.

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:21.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm so just like lah, yeah, like almost like a caveman,

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 3>like I'll just say things and they're like what I

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 3>read about? Like what this doesn't make any sense? But

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like I'm the type that I'm like, I'm

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 3>excited to post something, I'm just gonna post it. And

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:35.320
<v Speaker 3>I think she's very just so she's so smart.

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she really is. Do you have if you think

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 2>about your any of your seasons, do you have like

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:42.839
<v Speaker 2>one post that you think of as being like, oh,

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:44.439
<v Speaker 2>that's my favorite post I've done.

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Yes, actually, okay, it's with Ilona. We did like a

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:54.359
<v Speaker 3>package before one of our dances was the Jive. It

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 3>was rock and roll Night and we did like, uh,

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 3>we were in the gym and we did a whole

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 3>package for the show, and then afterwards we filmed a

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 3>TikTok of like partners doing everything together and we just

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:10.239
<v Speaker 3>did a bunch of workouts together and it went so

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 3>viral that they put that in the package. Really yeah,

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:17.840
<v Speaker 3>and it was like, I mean, for for weeks people

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 3>were just copying it and it was just so like

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 3>we didn't even think about it. It was just like

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 3>so just like, hey, let's do this quick video and

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 3>it was so fun and it was just like partners

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 3>doing everything together. That's so cute and so like that

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 3>was a really fun video.

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 2>So talking about last season, we all remember Elaine's injury

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:41.959
<v Speaker 2>on Halloween night. I remember seeing your sad face up there.

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I do that to me and I felt so bad

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 2>for you. Were you sure you were going home?

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean there was It was twofold. That was like, Wow,

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 3>they're really going to send me home by myself. Elaine

0:36:56.440 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 3>doesn't get eliminated, no, but I I part of me

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:08.360
<v Speaker 3>was like her, Elaine's journey is not done. Yeah, So

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 3>part of me was very like hopeful and wishful of

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 3>like this is not that it can't be the end,

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:16.240
<v Speaker 3>Like she has so much more, she loves it so much,

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 3>and so I was very hopeful. But then when they

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:23.280
<v Speaker 3>put me in the bottom three, I was like Jesus,

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:27.359
<v Speaker 3>what was going on here? And it was Oh, that

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 3>was very memorable of me just standing there hugging myself

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 3>everyone's saving, they hug people, and I'm just like, I

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 3>just wanted to hug someone. But you know that was

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 3>definitely scary.

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you don't know.

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget that feeling of those bottom three and

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:45.879
<v Speaker 2>how much it catches you off guard. You know it's coming,

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 2>but you don't think about it throughout the week, and

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden, you watch everybody dance. You're

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:52.279
<v Speaker 2>enjoying everyone's dance. You're like, oh my gosh, that was

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:54.959
<v Speaker 2>so incredible, and then it's like, oh it's time. Shit,

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 2>I forgot this part happens, and it.

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.439
<v Speaker 3>Kind of happens really fast, like maybe not I don't

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 3>know how happens on TV, but when you're in the

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 3>audience or when you're in the skybox watching they're like, okay,

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 3>last an's everyone down, You're like, oh shit, that's exactly it.

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Oay out of nowhere, Like, oh my gosh, I forgot

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 2>this and it's already here. Here it is.

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's honestly, it doesn't get any easier. I've been

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 3>a pro so many years, so like that's the worst

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:18.880
<v Speaker 3>part because it's out of your control. I think, for me,

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 3>the best thing in what I tell my partners is like,

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.240
<v Speaker 3>don't stress about it, Yeah, because the more you stress

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 3>about it during the week, then it's inevitable. No.

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:28.359
<v Speaker 2>I know there's a part of me that is so

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 2>grateful that it seems like it comes out of nowhere

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 2>because it means I wasn't I'm not focused on it

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 2>at all. I'm just focused on, you know, what I'm

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 2>doing and working hard and having fun. We are just

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 2>a few months away. I know I'm season thirty five.

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 2>We know a few contestants already on the female side.

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:48.320
<v Speaker 2>We know Mara Higgins and Sierra Miller. Yes, do either

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 2>of these possibilities excite you?

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Honestly both? Okay. I also feel like anyone who

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 3>does the show now is going to want to do

0:38:58.239 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 3>the show.

0:38:58.680 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exact know.

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 3>They're not doing it just because their agent made them.

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 3>They're doing it because they love They're either fans of

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:07.279
<v Speaker 3>the show, they see how like fun it can be,

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:09.919
<v Speaker 3>but they want to do it. And to me, that's

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 3>like the best thing in a partner exactly, somebody who

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 3>wants to be there, who is passionate about it, because

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 3>you can't teach passion. So both Mara and Sierra are great.

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 3>I feel like They're both very popular on social media,

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 3>which is a help. They both did Traders. Yeah, I know,

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 3>so I feel like they know how to play a game.

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 3>But when Dylan did this season, he was not that

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 3>he was calculated. That sometimes has a bad connotation, but

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 3>like he is strategy, He's very strategic.

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, Oh, I know. I was involved in irate.

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Strategy and it's great. You know, I think to a

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 3>certain extent, you know, I think you don't want to

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:52.719
<v Speaker 3>come into the season and plan every little thing. I

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 3>think the beautiful part about Dancing with the Stars is

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 3>the spontaneity.

0:39:56.160 --> 0:40:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Of course, exactly, l And I think every week that's

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:05.399
<v Speaker 2>actually what resonates more than anything else.

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:09.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, when somebody has a surprisingly good week and

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.439
<v Speaker 3>you're like, where did that come from? Right, And that's

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 3>what is special from that episode, you know. So I

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 3>think the spontaneity of the show is great. I think

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 3>they were both on reality TV, so they understand the

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:28.399
<v Speaker 3>sharing aspect and I think that's very important as a Yeah,

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 3>and I'm curious how you were, like, because was this

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:34.760
<v Speaker 3>your first stint in reality.

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 2>It was, yeah. I mean, now, granted I had hosted TV,

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 2>so I was comfortable being myself, but I had never

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 2>done a reality to the show, so it was my

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 2>first go at it, and I do remember thinking a

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 2>couple of times, it's very annoying to be miked all

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 2>the time.

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, there's there's a vulnerability to it, and I

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 3>think if you embrace that, yeah, it's amazing. If you

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 3>try to like hide your feelings and the America can't

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:07.439
<v Speaker 3>connect to you. And at the end of the day, yes,

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 3>it's a dance show, but it's it's about connecting and

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:15.439
<v Speaker 3>you know, connecting with the audience and showing your true

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:18.359
<v Speaker 3>self and letting them learn something about you, because that's

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 3>what's intriguing, you know, whether you're learning the dance or

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:24.919
<v Speaker 3>learning something about yourself. People don't just want to see

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:27.800
<v Speaker 3>good dancing from the start and just that's it totally.

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:29.919
<v Speaker 2>And so it helps to be an authentic person because

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:33.840
<v Speaker 2>if you are a reality TV star who is very

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:36.840
<v Speaker 2>brand focused and maybe who you are is not necessarily

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 2>who your brand is, that would be difficult. If you

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:42.399
<v Speaker 2>are an authentic person who's willing to show up as

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 2>yourself warts and all going to you're going to probably

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 2>have a fan base that's going to relate to you.

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 3>Exactly. Yeah, and I think that's the key of the

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 3>show totally.

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:53.360
<v Speaker 2>People need people need to be able to relate to you.

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 2>If they can't relate to you, what are they voting for?

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 2>What are they rooting or how do they see themselves

0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:00.840
<v Speaker 2>in you? Well, we're guaranteed to get a new pro.

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 2>This is crazy to the competition show for pro.

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Are you watching, No, I'll definitely be watching. I think

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 3>it's beautiful to see how the show is expanding, you know.

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 3>I think the show had such success in season thirty four. Yeah,

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 3>and there's a right way to capitalize on that. And

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, expanding the universe of Dancing with

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 3>the Stars is the right way. Yeah, you know, I

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:32.520
<v Speaker 3>think the fans want more. It's really hard to do

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 3>two seasons a year. I will not say no to

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:37.439
<v Speaker 3>two seasons a year, obviously, but I feel like it's

0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 3>hard to do that, and so this is a nice

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 3>way to like ease into the new show, into the

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:42.800
<v Speaker 3>new season.

0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:46.760
<v Speaker 2>I think you're right. Well, this will be another instance

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 2>where a pro is going to burst right into the

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 2>big show with no troop experience. You were able to

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 2>soak in the show and learn the process. Do you

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 2>think being on kind of this fast track to being

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 2>a pro can hurt the dancer.

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 3>So I think this is the best way to do

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 3>it without putting somebody on troop is you test them out.

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 3>You know they're going to have to go through these challenges.

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 3>You know it is you're being judged by Mark and Shirley,

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:17.240
<v Speaker 3>who are both unbelievable yep, you know, plus a third

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 3>rotating rotating judge, professional Dan, yes, which you know. To

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:27.920
<v Speaker 3>me though Mark and Shirley are are incredible choices. You know,

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Mark is a phenomenal judge, so creative. Shirley is on

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 3>strictly who is this? She is like the goddess of

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 3>all right? Yes, you know, so it couldn't have been

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 3>two better judges yep. And so now you're putting these

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 3>contestants through a series of these challenges, which I imagine would

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 3>only help set them up. You know, I think it's

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:54.719
<v Speaker 3>only gonna benefit them in the long run. And you

0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 3>know it adds that pressure which comes with the show,

0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:01.400
<v Speaker 3>which on Troupe there isn't that pressure. Yeah, you know,

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 3>so that's something that you do have to learn. And

0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 3>the only way you get better as a pro is

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 3>through experience. You know, no one can tell you a secret.

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.880
<v Speaker 3>Thing to make you better is just experiencing it for

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 3>yourself and learning what.

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Works and hopefully having a good connection with your with

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:17.360
<v Speaker 2>your celeb Yeah.

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:20.879
<v Speaker 3>I would say to anyone the biggest thing is make

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:23.399
<v Speaker 3>sure it's not about you. It's not about the pro.

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 3>As a pro, it is our job to make our

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:26.800
<v Speaker 3>celebrities feel safe.

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 3>And so that's like, whenever I go into any season,

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:31.720
<v Speaker 3>that's my first, which might.

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:33.720
<v Speaker 2>Be hard in this case. They've had an entire show

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 2>about them getting cast on the show, and then they

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 2>have to come in and be like, and it's not

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 2>about me at all, even though it was just all

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 2>about me for ten episodes.

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 3>But I think I feel like the people they have

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:46.080
<v Speaker 3>on the show are going to.

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they know what they're getting into. I'm not letting

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Alan off that easy. We're dropping a bonus episode this

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<v Speaker 2>Friday where I get to talk to my ballroom buddy

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<v Speaker 2>some more and we listen to your embarrassing childhood stories,

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<v Speaker 2>which I want listeners to send me their awkward tales.

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<v Speaker 2>Just email a voice memo somewhere between one to two

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<v Speaker 2>minutes to Teenbeatpod at gmail dot com, and we just

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<v Speaker 2>might play it on the show. And you can come

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<v Speaker 2>see me and Alan at the Ultimate DWTS Fan Convention

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<v Speaker 2>and live show at the end of this month July

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<v Speaker 2>thirty first to August second in Palm Springs. There are

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<v Speaker 2>limited tickets still available at dwtscn dot com. Teenbeat is

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<v Speaker 2>an iHeart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fischel. Executive

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<v Speaker 2>producers Jensencarp and Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge of production

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<v Speaker 2>Danielle Romo, producer and editor Tara Subosch. The theme song

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<v Speaker 2>is by Mark Coppis Yes that Mark Cooppus. Follow us

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram at teenbeatpod.