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Speaker 2: I think people will dig it. It's time for another

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Speaker 2: teen beat. I am your host, Danielle Fischel, a podcaster,

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Speaker 2: former sitcom star, a TV director, and the unforgettable eighth

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Speaker 2: place celebrity on season thirty four of Dancing with the Stars.

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Speaker 2: More on that soon. This year podcast has me sitting

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Speaker 2: with interesting people who have done interesting things in hopes

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Speaker 2: of childhood, because we all well know where we've been

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Speaker 2: will tell us where we're at and maybe even where

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Speaker 2: we're going. I see it like this, I gave you

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Speaker 2: my childhood. It's time we hear yours. And this week

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Speaker 2: I get to have a conversation with a peer of mine,

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Speaker 2: a fellow professional dancer. We share a passion for the craft.

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Speaker 2: He began professionally dancing at just seven years old part

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Speaker 2: of a now legendary Minnesota ballroom family, and debuted on

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Speaker 2: TV as part of So You Think You Can Dance

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Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen, but his real journey began as part

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Speaker 2: of the Dancing with the Stars Troop in season twenty

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Speaker 2: then as a fan favorite pro in season twenty five.

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Speaker 2: With a past lineup of celebrities that includes Debbie Gibson,

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Speaker 2: Amanda Kluts, Jamie Lynn Spears, Alana mar and Elaine Hendrix.

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Speaker 2: He's always one half of a couple guaranteed to bring

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Speaker 2: the heat, most notably in season twenty eight when he

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Speaker 2: won it all alongside Hannah Brown, and now with the

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Speaker 2: show in an all time fever pitch amongst new spinoffs

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Speaker 2: and fan conventions like July thirty first through August second

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Speaker 2: and Palm Springs. Limited tickets still available at dwts con

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Speaker 2: dot com. The world is my guest's oyster. We share

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Speaker 2: a love for three things, masterful dancing, Emma Slater, and

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Speaker 2: watch us. He is my favorite Jewish dancer since Paula Abdul.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to teen Beat, Alan Burston.

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Speaker 3: What an intro. I'm so impressed. I love it, you

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Speaker 3: love it? I love it. Okay, good, I think that's

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Speaker 3: a whole episode. We can actually got there.

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Speaker 2: Wrap it up. He's ready to go home.

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Speaker 1: How you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm great, so good to see you.

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Speaker 3: It's so good to see you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we got to spend quite a bit of

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Speaker 2: time together on tour, which was amazing, But it now

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Speaker 2: it feels like that was a whole lifetime ago.

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Speaker 3: I know. I feel like every year it's just like

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Speaker 3: three different lifetimes happen. Yeah, season, the tour.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I feel like our time was so valued.

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Speaker 2: It was, it was so valued. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for sitting down with me. This is long overdue, and

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Speaker 2: any chance I get to hang out with you, I

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Speaker 2: But I'm always very interested in how our childhoods shaped

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Speaker 3: Am I right? Yeah? You know. I was the youngest

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Speaker 3: one day and we're like, hey, you guys are ballroom

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. We would travel like in the Midwest

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I think my parents just saw the passion we

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Speaker 3: We would always hang out every weekend, and my brother.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were the one who was told you got

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Speaker 2: But no, Mom, does your brother call with notes after

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Speaker 3: And you know what, it makes sense though, because she's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So do you call your mom when you when

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Speaker 3: Well, it's really cool when I can call my mom

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Speaker 2: I think maybe she didn't point her toes, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think it's she just notices things. She she would

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Speaker 2: Okay, inflation, she really knows what she's looking at. I

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Speaker 2: know you are also a sports fan, and growing up

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I didn't, you know. I danced. I tried drums

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Speaker 3: You can't hurt yourself that bad dancing. You can?

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Speaker 2: learned multiple languages as a kid. You speak, I speak Russrussian.

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Speaker 3: Well, I started by going to it I from first

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Speaker 3: As it was not I was definitely a fish out

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Speaker 3: I really found my community in dance and my good

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Speaker 2: Did you go to any high school dances.

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Speaker 3: I didn't, not a single one. No, I would have

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Speaker 2: Did you ever eat at Hulk Hogan's Pastumania?

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Speaker 2: Would never remember. I couldn't chew it got born in

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the best?

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Speaker 3: Box, it is. Yeah, you find a way?

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Speaker 2: Do you find a way? Okay? Sorry, I'm hungry.

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Speaker 3: Listen. I've never said no to good cookies.

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Speaker 2: So what did you do for fun? Other than a

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Speaker 3: You know? We would dance a lot. That was fun

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Speaker 3: ride my bike. I feel like that was really cool.

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Speaker 3: I genuinely could not tell you. I remember, I remember

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Speaker 3: No. And I feel like in Minnesota there's so much

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Speaker 2: But I do feel like I'm a bad parent. If

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Speaker 2: on it. Do you have an opinion? Back to food?

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Speaker 2: This is my favorite. Do you have an opinion on

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Speaker 2: the best juicy lucy in Minneapolis? We have eaten at

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Speaker 3: I don't know what a juicy lucy is.

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Speaker 3: I remember I'm Russian. I did not eat a lot

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Speaker 2: Well, juicy lucy is a hamburger that has the cheese

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Speaker 2: Juicy lucy cut into it and the cheese oozes out

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Speaker 3: This should be bigger. I don't know why it's not

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you can go wrong with cheese

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Speaker 3: Oh no, so close? Season ten?

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Speaker 2: Season ten? Oh you know why because I got twenty

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Speaker 3: On it, on it, but now you're still on it.

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Speaker 2: I'll okay. Jenna Johnson was also on that season You

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? I think I was nineteen years old. Maybe I

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Speaker 2: If you were born in ninety four and it's twenty ten.

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Speaker 3: No, twenty thirteen, season ten.

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Speaker 2: Oh, season ten?

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Speaker 2: I was going to correct you on your mauth. I

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Speaker 2: It's just hard.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I do a lot more on Dancing

441
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 3: with the Stars now, is like enjoy it, yeah, because

442
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 3: it is. It is tough. You've been through it. It's stressful,

443
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 3: but it is one of the most remarkable and beautiful

444
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 3: and uplifting shows there is, and you learn so much

445
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 3: about yourself and.

446
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:53,239
Speaker 2: Also as just a personality and a person. Life is

447
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 2: so much more enjoyable when we can just take a

448
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 2: deep breath and laugh at our like laughter makes everything

449
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 2: feel better. If we're taking it too seriously and judging

450
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 2: ourselves too harshly. That's those are not enjoyable days. You know,

451
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 2: we're all going to have them, and we're all going

452
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: to have moments where we go, Man, I'm bummed with myself.

453
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 2: I stayed up too late, I didn't show up as

454
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,479
Speaker 2: well as I could have. I didn't push myself as

455
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 2: hard as I needed to. I'm disappointed in myself, but

456
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 2: like as a whole to like enjoy the process.

457
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the best thing you can do.

458
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 2: Especially, like you said, when your entire year ends up

459
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 2: feeling like three stages of life. One of them is

460
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 2: the season while it's going, which is you know four months, Yeah,

461
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: between all the weeks of the show and then the

462
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 2: weeks where you start to get to rehearse before it's

463
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 2: really looking at four months, and then a four month tour.

464
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 2: If you're being hard on yourself through all of that,

465
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: you're being hard on yourself through two thirds of your life.

466
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 3: Yeah. And you you know, again, if you are just

467
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 3: looking for the result of things, you miss the beauty

468
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 3: of it, you know. And I think the season, you know,

469
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 3: even last season for example, everyone that was a part

470
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 3: of it, I feel like one yeah, you know, everyone

471
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 3: left the show either feeling better, doing new opportunities.

472
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 2: Yep.

473
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 3: Even if you didn't win the show, there's so many

474
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 3: beautiful outcomes that came from it, yep, that it's like

475
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 3: just being a part of it and enjoying it is winning.

476
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 2: Couldn't agree with you more two years later than after,

477
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 2: So I think you can dance. You joined the troop

478
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: of Dancing with the Stars, Yes, thrown right into it.

479
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 2: Do you remember your first impressions of this insane, beautiful universe?

480
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually remember vividly. So I was doing some

481
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 3: little dance tour. They were like, hey, do you want

482
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 3: to audition for the show. It'll be like a little interview,

483
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 3: and I was like absolutely absolutely. I flew back to

484
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 3: LA because I was traveling. I don't remember where I was,

485
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 3: did this like audition and I was like like, this

486
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 3: is my dream, Like I really want to be on

487
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 3: Dancing with the Stars. Some time goes by, like maybe

488
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 3: a few weeks. I was actually a dancer on Glee

489
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: at the time. Yes, And I remember being on set

490
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 3: for Glee and like getting a call and it was like, Hey,

491
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 3: you're gonna be on Dancing with the Stars. You're gonna

492
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 3: be on Troop. And I was like Oh my god,

493
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 3: this is the best thing in the world.

494
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: I mean, all your dreams coming true on set of

495
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 2: Glee truly like dreams come true.

496
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 3: And I was like, being on the show is like

497
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 3: the dream come true. You know, I'm just so happy.

498
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 3: And then it's like okay. Then so I was on

499
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 3: Troop and then it was like, Okay, the next dream

500
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 3: is to be a pro. I mean, I will say

501
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 3: being on Troop was the best thing because you learn

502
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 3: so much. It's really hard to just go in as

503
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 3: a pro, not really knowing what you're doing. It's your

504
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 3: first time. It's the celebrities first time. When you're on troop,

505
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 3: you get to see it firsthand, you get to experience it.

506
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 3: I stepped in a few times as Troop, so I

507
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 3: got that firsthand experience.

508
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was just mean to replace a pro.

509
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think first it happened with Mark Yeah,

510
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 3: he got he got injured, and I danced with Page

511
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 3: and then in season twenty four Max got injured and

512
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: I stepped in with Heather Morris for like three weeks maybe, yeah,

513
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 3: and like I had to choreograph my own.

514
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: Dances and everything and good experience.

515
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 3: So great, and Heather was unbelievable. Yeah, so it was like,

516
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: just go out and do it and you don't have

517
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 3: to worry about like her freaking out because she's such

518
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 3: a such a pro. Yeah, so I got so lucky.

519
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 3: And again, I think the Troop helps build you as

520
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: a pro.

521
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: I know. I really also think that it would really

522
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 2: benefit the Troop to be able to let them sit

523
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 2: in on some of the rehearsals yet, because they I

524
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 2: mean obviously they're so busy too. They're all they're doing

525
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,959
Speaker 2: dances all throughout the week and everything, but they usually

526
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: just get to see the day of the camera blocking.

527
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. And in the past, like when I was Troop,

528
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 3: I was helping a lot of the celeb a lot

529
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 3: of the pros choreographing and being in the room, So

530
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: back then it was more like that. Yeah. I think

531
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 3: because of COVID, they like really made sure no one

532
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: was in the room and then it kind of just stuck.

533
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 2: Like that, because that would be so helpful to see

534
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: the way the pros talk to their celebrities, to see

535
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 2: the way they teach. I mean, that's teaching is a

536
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 2: whole skill set on its own. You could be the

537
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: best dancer in the entire world and not know the

538
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: first thing about teaching.

539
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 3: And that's I think what is so special about the

540
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: pros on the show. They're also talented. They have to

541
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 3: be incredible dancers, yep, they have to be incredible choreographers,

542
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: and they have to be incredible teachers. Yeah, and therapist.

543
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: So you can mind though, but it's you know, it is,

544
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 3: it's so much. It's multifaceted. Yes it is, and so yeah,

545
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: you can get the best dancer, but if they don't

546
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: know how to teach, then then the celebrities out of luck.

547
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: You're also forgetting personalities themselves.

548
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: It's a lot.

549
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 2: It's yeah, you guys are I mean talk about we

550
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 2: say triple threat, but you talk about you guys have

551
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 2: to have like a bion.

552
00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: You know.

553
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: Well, good news. You were promoted in season twenty five

554
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 2: with Debbie Gibson as your first celebrity. What was the

555
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: biggest lesson you took away from your first season.

556
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing I realized was like the pressure.

557
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 3: So when in season twenty four when I was with Heather,

558
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: there wasn't really any pressure because I wasn't her main partner, right,

559
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: and then when it was like okay, now you have

560
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 3: a main partner you are. Basically it's not as a pro,

561
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: it's not my season. Yeah, you know, at most it's

562
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 3: our season, but mainly it's it's my celebrity season. You know.

563
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 3: I want to make sure my celebrity has the absolute

564
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: best season. Yeah. And so that is something that I

565
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: learned right away. I was like, this is not about me, right,

566
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 3: you know. And Debbie was the sweetest person out She's wonderful. Yeah,

567
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 3: she's the best.

568
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

569
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: And so that was a great first season. But the

570
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 3: pressure of like, oh, this is fully on me now,

571
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: that's what I realized, And I was like, all right,

572
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: now I know how to really you know, not let

573
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: the pressure get to me and trust myself more.

574
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: Well, just a few years later, you win a Lenn

575
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: Goodman Mirror Ball Trophy with Bachelorette star Hannah Brown. Yes,

576
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: I mean, what a rapid rise to the very top.

577
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: Why do you think that partnership worked so well? And

578
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: what was it about that season that you think got

579
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 2: you guys to the end.

580
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 3: Honestly, so many things. It's not one thing. You know,

581
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: she just came off the Bachelorette. She was the most

582
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: popular thing on television. She's incredible and she worked really

583
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: really hard, you know, and she was very real and

584
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: I think people saw that and people loved her being real.

585
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, in order

586
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: for anyone to make it to the end, they just

587
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 3: have to care. Yeah, you know, no matter what, like

588
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 3: whether you care for yourself or for for your mom

589
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 3: or for it, you just have to care. You have

590
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: to show up and you have to do it right.

591
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: And then if you're lucky enough and it clicks, then

592
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: it's you know, it just it's magic.

593
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It does feel like the kind of

594
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: thing that is a perfect recipe that it's really hard,

595
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 2: Like there's so many elements that have to fall into

596
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,239
Speaker 2: the right place at the right time in order for

597
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: the magic to happen. Yeah, it gets you to the

598
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: end and then to eventually win.

599
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think everyone's journey is different. Yeah, and

600
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 3: like every season, yeah, there might be like a oh

601
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: I think this person might win, but that changes yep

602
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: every time. I will say, right before I did when

603
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: I won with Hannah. First, we did something called Dancing

604
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: with the Stars Juniors, Oh huh, and I had the sweetest girl,

605
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: Sky Brown, and we won there. So it was like, yeah,

606
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: it was. I started to like realize more.

607
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: You do well with people who have the last name Brown.

608
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: Exactly two wins, two wins with.

609
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: The name Brown. That works for you, No, yeah, okay.

610
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: But also it's just like when people are genuine in themselves,

611
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: it resonates a lot more.

612
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, people can pick up on that, they can smell

613
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: in authenticity.

614
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: And it's not just with the celebrities. It's with the partnership,

615
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 3: it's with the pros. Like people can see us more

616
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 3: than I think people they realize. Yeah, And so like

617
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: when people are there just to enjoy it and have

618
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 3: passion and purpose, it goes a long way.

619
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

620
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: Well, here we are in a complete renaissance for the

621
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: show the now Emmy nominated season thirty four.

622
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to say, this is the first year

623
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: in many years that it's Emmy nominated, and it's the

624
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 3: first year you've been on it.

625
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: Oh oh, okay, it's me. You think it's me. It's

626
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: gotta be the I'm the missing link. Well listen, I'll

627
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: take it. I mean it was Season thirty four was

628
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: above and beyond. I think what anybody could have imagined

629
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: for the show. You were paired with the Great Elaine

630
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: Hendrix in the sixth most watched TV show of the year. Wow,

631
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: Now is life different for Alan Burston? Now, what is

632
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: your visibility?

633
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: Like?

634
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: Are you getting stopped everywhere? Because I hear from friends.

635
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: It's how I knew you were in my neighborhood not

636
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: that long ago, because I was at a basketball game

637
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: for my son this past Saturday and a girlfriend of

638
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: mine said to me, oh, I saw Alan. Alan was

639
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: walking into Polo checks this past weekend. I said, well,

640
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to ask him, what do you was

641
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: picking up?

642
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 3: You know what? It's It's so funny. I feel like

643
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: right when I won, yep, I went like on a

644
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 3: run like a few like a week later and like

645
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: some congrats Alan just on the show, and I was like,

646
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: that's pretty cool. But you know, it's been like whatever,

647
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: nothing crazy. I feel like the last two years when

648
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: I was partner with Alona mar Yes, I was walking

649
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: down Larchmont and everyone, like construction workers were like you, Alan,

650
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: You're so good.

651
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's so cute that is going on.

652
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: Over here, you know. But it was really just like

653
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: the show did have this resurgence, and whether it's social

654
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 3: media or or whatever it is, it is just so

655
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: awesome to be a part of. That's not the focus,

656
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: but it's it's definitely cool to see that recognition and like,

657
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: if anyone stops me, I will gladly take a photo

658
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: with them.

659
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: I know you're always so.

660
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: I literally went for a run yesterday and I run

661
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: on Melrose a lot, and like a group of girls were.

662
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, did you stop your run?

663
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: I didn't finishing, but I definitely said hi, and then

664
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: they messaged.

665
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: As you mentioned, a lot of the popularity has to

666
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: be thanks to social media. The show is a TikTok phenomenon,

667
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: and for the pros it is like you take on

668
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: a second full time job during the season. Your season

669
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 2: with Elana, you two were incredible online. How important is

670
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: the social media game now? Do you think to going

671
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: far in the competition?

672
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: Let me start with this. I felt when I was

673
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: with Amanda Clutes, I think it was season thirty, we

674
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: made a big effort of like social media, and I

675
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: look back and we posted one TikTok a week and

676
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: I was like, that's a big effort.

677
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: Like you felt like you were like, wow, we're really folks.

678
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 3: I think we went live on Instagram and TikTok every

679
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: camera blocking day and then we posted like one TikTok

680
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: a week, and I was like, we're doing so much,

681
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: like more than everyone.

682
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: Else flooding the season.

683
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I'm like, oh, with Alona we did

684
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 3: like three videos a day.

685
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what the hell did you have time?

686
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: You know? So I think it was also very easy.

687
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 3: So like with Ilona, we didn't do a lot of

688
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 3: dance trends. We kind of just did quick personalities videos,

689
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: funny things. I really learned that season of like, just

690
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: post whatever you want. Don't be precious. If it doesn't

691
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: do well, who cares? Just post and be a good person,

692
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: you know. And I think what really resonated was, especially

693
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: with Alona, it was it showed our partnership and it

694
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 3: gave an avenue outside of just the show. You know,

695
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 3: you get your minut and a half dance, your minute

696
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: and a half package and whatever questions are in the

697
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: skybox with Julianne all week. You know, that's five minutes maximum.

698
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: And social media now gives you a platform to talk

699
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: about your partnership, talk about struggles, talk about what's going good,

700
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: you know, having fun and just showing that partnership even more,

701
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: And to me, I think that's the most important thing. Yeah,

702
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: it's not your celebrity and you trying to get the

703
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: most vote. It's like, how can you showcase your partnership? Yeah,

704
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: and it's a lot easier when you actually like each other.

705
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can't even imagine what a season would

706
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: have been like if Pasha and I did not get

707
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: a lot. I really like, what a you? I mean,

708
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: to wake up every day and be so excited to

709
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: see your partner and work with your partner is such

710
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: a blessing to wake up and like dread it.

711
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: That's why it's not like when it goes well, it's

712
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: not hard, it's not work. The hard part is obviously

713
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: learning dances and choreographing and all that. But like being

714
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: in the studio, when time flies it's fun.

715
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, when you're like, how have we already been

716
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: here for four hours?

717
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: So even though it is four hours a day, when

718
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: it's fun, it's like, give me four more.

719
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 2: Well, now you have added pressure because your girlfriend, also,

720
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 2: my love, Emma Slater, is the world's greatest social media guru.

721
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: You bounce ideas off of her.

722
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, always I'm always First of all, I'm

723
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: she's so eloquent with her words and I'm not so

724
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, does this capture make sense? Like do

725
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: I sound like an idiot? And she helps because I'm not.

726
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 3: I'm so just like lah, yeah, like almost like a caveman,

727
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: like I'll just say things and they're like what I

728
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 3: read about? Like what this doesn't make any sense? But

729
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: I'm just like I'm the type that I'm like, I'm

730
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: excited to post something, I'm just gonna post it. And

731
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 3: I think she's very just so she's so smart.

732
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, she really is. Do you have if you think

733
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: about your any of your seasons, do you have like

734
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: one post that you think of as being like, oh,

735
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 2: that's my favorite post I've done.

736
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: Yes, actually, okay, it's with Ilona. We did like a

737
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 3: package before one of our dances was the Jive. It

738
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: was rock and roll Night and we did like, uh,

739
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: we were in the gym and we did a whole

740
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: package for the show, and then afterwards we filmed a

741
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: TikTok of like partners doing everything together and we just

742
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 3: did a bunch of workouts together and it went so

743
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 3: viral that they put that in the package. Really yeah,

744
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 3: and it was like, I mean, for for weeks people

745
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: were just copying it and it was just so like

746
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: we didn't even think about it. It was just like

747
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: so just like, hey, let's do this quick video and

748
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: it was so fun and it was just like partners

749
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 3: doing everything together. That's so cute and so like that

750
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: was a really fun video.

751
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: So talking about last season, we all remember Elaine's injury

752
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,959
Speaker 2: on Halloween night. I remember seeing your sad face up there.

753
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: I do that to me and I felt so bad

754
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: for you. Were you sure you were going home?

755
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: I mean there was It was twofold. That was like, Wow,

756
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 3: they're really going to send me home by myself. Elaine

757
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: doesn't get eliminated, no, but I I part of me

758
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 3: was like her, Elaine's journey is not done. Yeah, So

759
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: part of me was very like hopeful and wishful of

760
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: like this is not that it can't be the end,

761
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 3: Like she has so much more, she loves it so much,

762
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: and so I was very hopeful. But then when they

763
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 3: put me in the bottom three, I was like Jesus,

764
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 3: what was going on here? And it was Oh, that

765
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: was very memorable of me just standing there hugging myself

766
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: everyone's saving, they hug people, and I'm just like, I

767
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 3: just wanted to hug someone. But you know that was

768
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: definitely scary.

769
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't know.

770
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: I'll never forget that feeling of those bottom three and

771
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 2: how much it catches you off guard. You know it's coming,

772
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: but you don't think about it throughout the week, and

773
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, you watch everybody dance. You're

774
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: enjoying everyone's dance. You're like, oh my gosh, that was

775
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 2: so incredible, and then it's like, oh it's time. Shit,

776
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: I forgot this part happens, and it.

777
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 3: Kind of happens really fast, like maybe not I don't

778
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 3: know how happens on TV, but when you're in the

779
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: audience or when you're in the skybox watching they're like, okay,

780
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: last an's everyone down, You're like, oh shit, that's exactly it.

781
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 2: Oay out of nowhere, Like, oh my gosh, I forgot

782
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: this and it's already here. Here it is.

783
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's honestly, it doesn't get any easier. I've been

784
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: a pro so many years, so like that's the worst

785
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 3: part because it's out of your control. I think, for me,

786
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 3: the best thing in what I tell my partners is like,

787
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 3: don't stress about it, Yeah, because the more you stress

788
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: about it during the week, then it's inevitable. No.

789
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: I know there's a part of me that is so

790
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: grateful that it seems like it comes out of nowhere

791
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: because it means I wasn't I'm not focused on it

792
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: at all. I'm just focused on, you know, what I'm

793
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: doing and working hard and having fun. We are just

794
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: a few months away. I know I'm season thirty five.

795
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: We know a few contestants already on the female side.

796
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 2: We know Mara Higgins and Sierra Miller. Yes, do either

797
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: of these possibilities excite you?

798
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? Honestly both? Okay. I also feel like anyone who

799
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: does the show now is going to want to do

800
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: the show.

801
00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, exact know.

802
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: They're not doing it just because their agent made them.

803
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: They're doing it because they love They're either fans of

804
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: the show, they see how like fun it can be,

805
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 3: but they want to do it. And to me, that's

806
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: like the best thing in a partner exactly, somebody who

807
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 3: wants to be there, who is passionate about it, because

808
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: you can't teach passion. So both Mara and Sierra are great.

809
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: I feel like They're both very popular on social media,

810
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 3: which is a help. They both did Traders. Yeah, I know,

811
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: so I feel like they know how to play a game.

812
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: But when Dylan did this season, he was not that

813
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 3: he was calculated. That sometimes has a bad connotation, but

814
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: like he is strategy, He's very strategic.

815
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Oh, I know. I was involved in irate.

816
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: Strategy and it's great. You know, I think to a

817
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 3: certain extent, you know, I think you don't want to

818
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 3: come into the season and plan every little thing. I

819
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: think the beautiful part about Dancing with the Stars is

820
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 3: the spontaneity.

821
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 2: Of course, exactly, l And I think every week that's

822
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 2: actually what resonates more than anything else.

823
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: You know, when somebody has a surprisingly good week and

824
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 3: you're like, where did that come from? Right, And that's

825
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: what is special from that episode, you know. So I

826
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 3: think the spontaneity of the show is great. I think

827
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: they were both on reality TV, so they understand the

828
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 3: sharing aspect and I think that's very important as a Yeah,

829
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: and I'm curious how you were, like, because was this

830
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 3: your first stint in reality.

831
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: It was, yeah. I mean, now, granted I had hosted TV,

832
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: so I was comfortable being myself, but I had never

833
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: done a reality to the show, so it was my

834
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: first go at it, and I do remember thinking a

835
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: couple of times, it's very annoying to be miked all

836
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: the time.

837
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: You know, there's there's a vulnerability to it, and I

838
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: think if you embrace that, yeah, it's amazing. If you

839
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 3: try to like hide your feelings and the America can't

840
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 3: connect to you. And at the end of the day, yes,

841
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 3: it's a dance show, but it's it's about connecting and

842
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 3: you know, connecting with the audience and showing your true

843
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 3: self and letting them learn something about you, because that's

844
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: what's intriguing, you know, whether you're learning the dance or

845
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 3: learning something about yourself. People don't just want to see

846
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 3: good dancing from the start and just that's it totally.

847
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 2: And so it helps to be an authentic person because

848
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: if you are a reality TV star who is very

849
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: brand focused and maybe who you are is not necessarily

850
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: who your brand is, that would be difficult. If you

851
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 2: are an authentic person who's willing to show up as

852
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: yourself warts and all going to you're going to probably

853
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: have a fan base that's going to relate to you.

854
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah, and I think that's the key of the

855
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: show totally.

856
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 2: People need people need to be able to relate to you.

857
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: If they can't relate to you, what are they voting for?

858
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: What are they rooting or how do they see themselves

859
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 2: in you? Well, we're guaranteed to get a new pro.

860
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: This is crazy to the competition show for pro.

861
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: Are you watching, No, I'll definitely be watching. I think

862
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: it's beautiful to see how the show is expanding, you know.

863
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: I think the show had such success in season thirty four. Yeah,

864
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: and there's a right way to capitalize on that. And

865
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: I think, you know, expanding the universe of Dancing with

866
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: the Stars is the right way. Yeah, you know, I

867
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: think the fans want more. It's really hard to do

868
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 3: two seasons a year. I will not say no to

869
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 3: two seasons a year, obviously, but I feel like it's

870
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: hard to do that, and so this is a nice

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Speaker 3: way to like ease into the new show, into the

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Speaker 3: new season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. Well, this will be another instance

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Speaker 2: where a pro is going to burst right into the

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Speaker 2: big show with no troop experience. You were able to

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00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: soak in the show and learn the process. Do you

878
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Speaker 2: think being on kind of this fast track to being

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Speaker 2: a pro can hurt the dancer.

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Speaker 3: So I think this is the best way to do

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Speaker 3: it without putting somebody on troop is you test them out.

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Speaker 3: You know they're going to have to go through these challenges.

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Speaker 3: You know it is you're being judged by Mark and Shirley,

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Speaker 3: who are both unbelievable yep, you know, plus a third

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Speaker 3: rotating rotating judge, professional Dan, yes, which you know. To

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Speaker 3: me though Mark and Shirley are are incredible choices. You know,

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Speaker 3: Mark is a phenomenal judge, so creative. Shirley is on

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Speaker 3: strictly who is this? She is like the goddess of

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Speaker 3: all right? Yes, you know, so it couldn't have been

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Speaker 3: two better judges yep. And so now you're putting these

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Speaker 3: contestants through a series of these challenges, which I imagine would

892
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Speaker 3: only help set them up. You know, I think it's

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Speaker 3: only gonna benefit them in the long run. And you

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Speaker 3: know it adds that pressure which comes with the show,

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Speaker 3: which on Troupe there isn't that pressure. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: so that's something that you do have to learn. And

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Speaker 3: the only way you get better as a pro is

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Speaker 3: through experience. You know, no one can tell you a secret.

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Speaker 3: Thing to make you better is just experiencing it for

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Speaker 3: yourself and learning what.

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Speaker 2: Works and hopefully having a good connection with your with

902
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Speaker 2: your celeb Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I would say to anyone the biggest thing is make

904
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Speaker 3: sure it's not about you. It's not about the pro.

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Speaker 3: As a pro, it is our job to make our

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Speaker 3: celebrities feel safe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so that's like, whenever I go into any season,

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Speaker 3: that's my first, which might.

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Speaker 2: Be hard in this case. They've had an entire show

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Speaker 2: about them getting cast on the show, and then they

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Speaker 2: have to come in and be like, and it's not

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Speaker 2: about me at all, even though it was just all

914
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Speaker 2: about me for ten episodes.

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Speaker 3: But I think I feel like the people they have

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Speaker 3: on the show are going to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they know what they're getting into. I'm not letting

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Speaker 2: Alan off that easy. We're dropping a bonus episode this

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Speaker 2: Friday where I get to talk to my ballroom buddy

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Speaker 2: some more and we listen to your embarrassing childhood stories,

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Speaker 2: which I want listeners to send me their awkward tales.

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Speaker 2: Just email a voice memo somewhere between one to two

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Speaker 2: minutes to Teenbeatpod at gmail dot com, and we just

924
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Speaker 2: might play it on the show. And you can come

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Speaker 2: see me and Alan at the Ultimate DWTS Fan Convention

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Speaker 2: and live show at the end of this month July

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Speaker 2: thirty first to August second in Palm Springs. There are

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Speaker 2: limited tickets still available at dwtscn dot com. Teenbeat is

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Speaker 2: an iHeart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fischel. Executive

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Speaker 2: producers Jensencarp and Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge of production

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Speaker 2: Danielle Romo, producer and editor Tara Subosch. The theme song

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Speaker 2: is by Mark Coppis Yes that Mark Cooppus. Follow us

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Speaker 2: on Instagram at teenbeatpod.