WEBVTT - Why is everyone robbing Guy Fieri?

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody gets a warm Everyone's like, why'd you guys give

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<v Speaker 1>us the just eat it, chew it and then shoot it?

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<v Speaker 2>Campside media large lash.

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<v Speaker 3>Rory.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, if you could rob any celebrity, who would it be?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? Elon Musk, just because I feel like, uh, he

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<v Speaker 1>has the most money and it would be great payback

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<v Speaker 1>since he's robbing us. The show just went political, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh there goes our rating. We're getting so many one

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<v Speaker 2>star reviews now and also Barack Obama.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't play both sides, We play both sides, smart.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. The correct answer was Guy Fieri.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, why is that? He just gives you? He just

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<v Speaker 1>gives you his wallet.

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<v Speaker 2>Fortunately, for you and for all the residents of Flavortown,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to answer that at this episode. Yes, because

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<v Speaker 2>this week on Crimeless we tackle maybe the most important

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<v Speaker 2>unsolved crime in history, perpetrated against a man with a

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<v Speaker 2>two tone goatee, a crime so ballsy that it also

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<v Speaker 2>ripped off the second most famous lead singer of Van Halen,

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<v Speaker 2>who looks a lot like Guy Fieri.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is that man?

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<v Speaker 1>That is Sammy Hacoff.

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<v Speaker 2>So whaty sounds like?

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<v Speaker 1>I do not know that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up, we seek justice on behalf of two legends

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<v Speaker 2>of Food and Rock, a pair of guys who know

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<v Speaker 2>their way around a bottle of sun In and who

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<v Speaker 2>have never once paid for a drink in Branson, Missouri

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<v Speaker 2>or Cabo. This week on Crimeless, stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine not having to pay for a drink

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<v Speaker 1>in Branson, Missouri. You go a whole weekend that saves

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<v Speaker 1>you fifteen bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome back to crime List, the podcast that

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<v Speaker 2>celebrates the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals and

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<v Speaker 2>also seeks justice on behalf of Guy Fieri. I'm Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Dein and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Am Rory Scomo.

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<v Speaker 2>So before we get started here, Rory, tell me what

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<v Speaker 2>you know about Guy Fieri.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that. Can I do a shout out? Can

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<v Speaker 1>I tell everyone? When this episode ends, go check out

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<v Speaker 1>Shane Torres, a comedian who has a great bit about

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<v Speaker 1>Guy Fieri. All I know is when I watch that

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<v Speaker 1>guy and his TV show, it does you can't. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're hungry and you watch that show, you're done. You're

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<v Speaker 1>screwed because everything he shows you you want to eat

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<v Speaker 1>it immediately. And I know that he has great shirts

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<v Speaker 1>and hair. Yeah, I love his hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, is it Fiery? I feel like some people say

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<v Speaker 2>some people.

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<v Speaker 1>Say Fierti, and I want to be like, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? Just say Fieri like the rest of us.

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<v Speaker 2>So, well, let's make a decision here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go with Fieri, right Fieri unless you want

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<v Speaker 1>to say Fierti. Pieti feels I'll go down that road

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Josh, I'm leaving up to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're you're you define our house style or are

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<v Speaker 2>we a Fieri house or are we a Fieri?

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<v Speaker 1>I say we go Fieri. Let's try to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, let's challenge ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you can correct me if I forget to do one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>So how many times do you think this American treasure

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<v Speaker 2>has been the subject of absolutely ridiculous and brazen heist?

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<v Speaker 1>Just that question alone is beautiful? U. I'm gonna go,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. Do you say how many times?

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<v Speaker 2>Ten?

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<v Speaker 1>It's ten, like a crazy two that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know of, But I feel like that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I thought too, but I thought the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you asked it was like maybe this whole guy's

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<v Speaker 1>life is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we can hope. I mean this might inspire

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<v Speaker 2>are a wave of copycats when people hear this, this

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful episode.

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<v Speaker 1>So you said twice, this has happened twice.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here we So for now I'm going to focus,

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<v Speaker 2>for starters on the most recent of these, when a

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<v Speaker 2>gang of still unnamed perpetrators stole twenty four thousand, two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty bottles of high end tequila from a

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<v Speaker 2>company founded and owned by two men who look suspiciously

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<v Speaker 2>like Guy fi Fietti and Sammy Hagar Yeagar, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Hagar Africa Sammy Hagar Okay, so we're using the proper

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<v Speaker 2>pronunciation of both of both, Yeah yeah, okay, who was,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, the lead singer of Van Halen from eighty

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<v Speaker 2>five to ninety six and two thousand and three to

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and five, also the solo artist known for

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<v Speaker 2>your personal aerobics jam I can't drive fifty five. His

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<v Speaker 2>nickname is the Red Rocker.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me set the scene for you. Last November,

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<v Speaker 2>two trucks carrying more than twenty four thousand bottles of

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<v Speaker 2>tequila crossed the border from Mexico into Laredo, Texas. And

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<v Speaker 2>these aren't just any old bottles of tequis. They're made

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<v Speaker 2>by Santo Spirits, a company founded by Fiery and Hagar.

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<v Speaker 2>That's ridiculous. I'd love to give you the oral history

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<v Speaker 2>of the company's founding, but that's for a different show.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to note that it's one of four

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<v Speaker 2>different Spirits companies. Hagar has founded four different liquor brands.

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<v Speaker 2>So what a guy, What a life.

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<v Speaker 1>He's smart, he knows what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's important to us is that these trucks arrived

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<v Speaker 2>as planned at a warehouse in Laredo and then departed

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<v Speaker 2>as planned for their ultimate destination, a warehouse in Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>Real honest drivers picked the trucks up and started driving

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<v Speaker 2>east and north. It's about twenty five hours of highway driving.

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<v Speaker 2>But the trucks never made it. Where did they go?

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>And why? Because someone changed the driver's instructions. Sometime after

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<v Speaker 2>leaving Texas. According to Laredo PD, the drivers received new

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<v Speaker 2>orders to take the loads to LA and drop them

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<v Speaker 2>instead at different still apparently legit seeming warehouses. Quote that

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<v Speaker 2>was the last time anybody knew or saw where the

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<v Speaker 2>tequila was. Cop told the New York times. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think this is the case of a misplaced load of tequila.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure it's probably gone. I feel like he

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<v Speaker 2>could have said either pretty sure or probably didn't need

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<v Speaker 2>both of them.

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<v Speaker 1>There, Yeah, we didn't need both potential outcomes.

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<v Speaker 2>The total value of the hall was, according to Santo Spirits,

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<v Speaker 2>more than a million dollars and included more than three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred bottles of the highest end tequila in the Fierti

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<v Speaker 2>Hagar line Extra Anyejo single Barrel, which is aged for

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<v Speaker 2>three years and sells for one hundred and twenty bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 2>When People magazine reached Fieti, he seemed to be in

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<v Speaker 2>shock at the scope of it. Here's what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, one is one, but now you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>have double the amount of people to pull off the

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<v Speaker 2>double heist. He said, it just seems so much riskier

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<v Speaker 2>to take two trucks. That's his that's his analysis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, wow, all right, I mean I would be I

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<v Speaker 1>would be so devastated. I'd be so devastated just at

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<v Speaker 1>the quality of the product, let alone the fortune you

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<v Speaker 1>could make from it. Knowing that the value of it

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<v Speaker 1>was over a million dollars, I know that those two guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure are doing fine, but yet still that's a

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<v Speaker 1>considerable amount of money, whether you're doing fine or not. Slash,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you they really care about the quality of

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<v Speaker 1>that product, and they were probably like, this is some

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<v Speaker 1>special stuff aged for three years. That's a commitment.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is you're getting real here.

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy Hagar wasn't even in van Halen the second time

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<v Speaker 1>for three years.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, The tequila AIG's longer than his second student

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<v Speaker 2>van Haln. Yeah, well, so FIEDI told people they're offering

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<v Speaker 2>a ten thousand dollars reward, which, to be honest, doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>seem high enough. But that's just for the limited edition stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>which is obviously very hard to replace. Yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 2>also compared the crime to the legendary nineteen seventy eight

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<v Speaker 2>Lufthansa heist or you stole five million dollars in cash

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<v Speaker 2>and just under a million in jewelry from a JFK

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<v Speaker 2>cargo terminal and which features prominently in Goodfellas, which also

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<v Speaker 2>seems like a bit of an exaggeration.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I also thought it reeked of that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this just feels like some looft hanse

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<v Speaker 1>going on here when you were reading it, you and Fieti, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>me and Fietti, we have a similar we have a

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<v Speaker 1>similar rolodex in our minds of other related crimes, of other.

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<v Speaker 2>High concept, well executed heist.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He also said to People magazine, it's like a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I never in a million years thought this was coming

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<v Speaker 2>down a pike like this, but it's real.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a quote machine, that guy. He yeah, coming

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<v Speaker 1>down the pike. Uh, that's a I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>i'd apply that there, but sure, go ahead. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's probably not so shocking if someone knows it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a little bit of an inside job. Someone

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<v Speaker 1>had to know the.

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<v Speaker 2>Value, presumably, yes, And then how do you begin to

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<v Speaker 2>pull it off? Then do you have men like if

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<v Speaker 2>you were the mastermind of this, do you know how

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<v Speaker 2>you how you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>If the truck drivers were we're all just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>straight shooters, they were like, hey, we're the good guys,

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<v Speaker 1>then I guess you got to have a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a truck jacking.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm going to tell you. I mean, you're in

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<v Speaker 2>the ballpark. Okay, you're so good at this. We're turning

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<v Speaker 2>you into such a smart criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to actually start applying it. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be so rich. Slash spends so much time in jail,

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<v Speaker 1>Slash learn how to escape from jail.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, how great would it if at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of season one you turned into like a master criminal

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<v Speaker 2>and you were like living on an island in the South.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how the season should end. You and I should

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<v Speaker 1>have to pull off a crime. We now have something

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<v Speaker 1>to aim for, and then in season two we're like,

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<v Speaker 1>guess how we got caught? Folks this podcast where we

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally confessed the whole thing. Our one mistake was reporting

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<v Speaker 1>it ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>So, according to Santo's trucking partner, Johansson Transportation Services, the

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<v Speaker 2>loads were quote double broker. Here's how Johansson explained it

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<v Speaker 2>in a report that People Magazine obtained. We believe the

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<v Speaker 2>GPS tracking signal we were monitoring was spoofed by a

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<v Speaker 2>GPS emulator application used by the criminals, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>means the crooks were able to intercept the actual GPS

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<v Speaker 2>signal being monitored by the shippers and make it look

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<v Speaker 2>like the loads were still on track. So it's like

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<v Speaker 2>if you were watching at home on the screen. You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to Pennsylvania. But in fact it's going to I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean that element right there. Fieri is right. That is

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<v Speaker 1>some movie type shit, it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>By the time someone realized that it was off, it

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<v Speaker 2>was too late, because once these loads were in enemy hands,

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<v Speaker 2>there wasn't much hope of them being found. Santo assumed

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<v Speaker 2>the load would be broken up and sold quietly in

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<v Speaker 2>small batches on the black market. Some of it would

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<v Speaker 2>very likely end up in mom and pop liquor stores

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<v Speaker 2>and in bars, maybe even in your belly, oh or mine?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why'd you accuse me? Certainly? I mean you a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about tequila, all right, man, I have like five

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<v Speaker 1>of the bottles. It's my most prized possession. You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>like these super and Yaho you mean swim Josh that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guzzling.

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<v Speaker 2>So once a shipment is off the trucks and broken

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<v Speaker 2>up into smaller loads, it's almost impossible to find. But

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<v Speaker 2>in December, Sammy Hagar had some good news to share

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<v Speaker 2>on fo CA's digital A Pardon Sammy Hagar. When they

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<v Speaker 2>caught him outside of benefit one truck in roughly half

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<v Speaker 2>the booze had been located. It was traced to a

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<v Speaker 2>quote non criminal cargo area of Los Angeles and then

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<v Speaker 2>unloaded on the street, which I believe is the old

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<v Speaker 2>fell off the truck scheme, like they open up the

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<v Speaker 2>back and some guys just show up and start rolling

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<v Speaker 2>it off. I feel like I've seen that scene in

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<v Speaker 2>a movie a bunch of times.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the idea of a known criminal cargo area.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't shut that down. You can't make it like.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't go, hey, guys, we now know you do

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<v Speaker 1>this over here, so just stop doing it. Like it

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<v Speaker 1>has to exist forever.

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<v Speaker 2>If only there was something you can do about the

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<v Speaker 2>known criminal card.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's it coming in? Probably in the known location where

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<v Speaker 1>it's always coming in.

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<v Speaker 2>To go back to what you were saying before, to

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<v Speaker 2>get real, the heist did set the company back, especially

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<v Speaker 2>considering it happened right before the holidays. Santo estimated it

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<v Speaker 2>was at least forty days of supply, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>Dinejo takes three years to reproduce.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In January, it was Fierti updating Fox News Digital saying someone.

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<v Speaker 4>Still has ten thousand bottles of it, and we're of

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<v Speaker 4>course pretty disheartened by the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all we know. Man, there was all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>tom foolery in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything he says is amazing. Man, do you think this

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<v Speaker 2>thing happens often? Like these kind of heists of loads

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<v Speaker 2>of liquor?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you wouldn't ask if they didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so predictable. Liquor theft is indeed rampant, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little rare at this scale, but it's a

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<v Speaker 2>growing problem. In December twenty twenty three, a North Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>based company called Daytoon Distributors was about to launch a

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<v Speaker 2>new tequila, Hacienda Chaktun, and had compiled nineteen thousand bottles

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<v Speaker 2>of Repisodo in a local warehouse to be shipped out

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<v Speaker 2>to stores. Then some quote cyber criminals broke into the

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<v Speaker 2>logistics system and stopped me. If you've heard this before,

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<v Speaker 2>hijacked the GPS, redirected the trucks to the wrong location,

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<v Speaker 2>and the tequila was stolen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, get an apple, one of those apple tags on.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all they needed.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to lie. You put an apple tag

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<v Speaker 1>in these trucks, hide it. Hide that apple tag. You're

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<v Speaker 1>good to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at this solvent crimes from Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I play both the plays both sides

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<v Speaker 1>of the fence.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty three, the year that happened, was the all

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<v Speaker 2>time worst for cargo thusts of this kind, according to

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<v Speaker 2>a company called cargo net Oh, but the number of

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<v Speaker 2>tests jumped again in twenty twenty four. They told The

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times that most alcohol stolen it twenty three

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<v Speaker 2>was hard seltzer, of course, which feels like something Guy

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<v Speaker 2>Fieti would also be in. How does he not have

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<v Speaker 2>a hard seltzer?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great assumption.

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<v Speaker 2>Called land And what would it be called.

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<v Speaker 1>Fiedti fizz Fieri fizz except he would be yelling at

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<v Speaker 1>Fieti fizz.

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<v Speaker 2>So in twenty four the theft shifted more into high

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<v Speaker 2>end liquor. Maybe the most famous liquor heist pre Fietti,

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<v Speaker 2>happened in October twenty thirteen, when someone stole one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars worth of very top end Pappy van Winkle

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<v Speaker 2>bourbon from a locked vault at a distillery in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>The theft became known as Pappy Gate, and you may

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<v Speaker 2>have seen the story on an episode of the Netflix

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<v Speaker 2>series Heist. Spoiler alert, Inside Job yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that they gave it a name like Pappy

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<v Speaker 1>Gate so that no one could take it seriously for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of history.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always felt like Pappy van Winkle is a ridiculous

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I've thought it too, and yet everyone like it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've ever tried it. I'm sure it's

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely amazing, but that name just makes you assume you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting pranked, and when you go to drink it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a bunch of confetti.

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<v Speaker 2>Lane's reporting that Guy Fieri has a spiked punch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, and that's gonna be Fieti FeAs.

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<v Speaker 5>What's it called, Lane, Flavortown spiked fruit punch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, Flavortown spiked fruit punch. You know it's If it's

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<v Speaker 1>not broke, don't fix it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right now, I'm gonna test how closely you're paying attention.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember what I said at the top of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Show about Guy Fierti.

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<v Speaker 2>But this wasn't the only time he's been robbed, like

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<v Speaker 2>something out of a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the most recent time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you about another one after the break rewind.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go. This is crimeless.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, to Crimeless, the weekly show that fights tirelessly

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<v Speaker 2>for justice in Flavortown, Rory, would you like to take

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<v Speaker 2>a wild stab at what was stolen from Guy Fieri

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<v Speaker 2>Fieri in the other heist? This one happened in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Hot Sauce. It just feels like really expensive hot sauce.

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<v Speaker 2>Close It was a canary yellow Lamborghini Guyardo convertible.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, how was that close? It was either hot sauce

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<v Speaker 1>because the license plate said hot Sauce.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually it did not. It was a twenty. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a two thousand and eight with vanity plates that read

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<v Speaker 2>Guy Toro. Oh okay, which maybe is that a reference

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<v Speaker 2>to like high end tuna.

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<v Speaker 1>I that's a great guess. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Any other theories out there. I don't really know what

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<v Speaker 2>else it could refer to. On a future episode of Crimeless,

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<v Speaker 2>we will unravel what Guy Toro refers to.

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<v Speaker 1>Not hard to picture that Guy Fieri is a big

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<v Speaker 1>car guy. Not hard to picture at all.

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<v Speaker 2>His hair sort of matches canary yellow too. It seems

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<v Speaker 2>like a like it might have an extra flame on

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<v Speaker 2>the side or yes, yes, so anyway, his two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and eight Lamborghini was in for service and an imported

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<v Speaker 2>luxury car dealer in San Francisco when it was stolen

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<v Speaker 2>in the most spectacular way imaginable. I won't ask you

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<v Speaker 2>to guess what happened unless you want tom all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, someone just stole I don't know. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I mean, this is too hard. If you

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<v Speaker 2>were going on movie references, you might have been able

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<v Speaker 2>to come up with this, but it's so ridiculous. Sometime

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<v Speaker 2>between three forty and five fifteen am on March eighth,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eleven, a mysterious figure wearing all black repelled into

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<v Speaker 2>the top floor of the dealership from the roof, climbed

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<v Speaker 2>through a window, and stole the car, cutting the lock

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<v Speaker 2>and driving out the back doors, then across the Golden

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<v Speaker 2>Gate Bridge, where it was last captured on cameras. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>not last captured, because it was then caught again on

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<v Speaker 2>CA and Tiberan, a short drive north of the bridge,

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<v Speaker 2>but then it vanished.

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<v Speaker 1>Gone in sixty seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro Oh, yes, more like seventeen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, more than likely. More than that. I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're fast cars, but they're not time machines. Quote.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very distinctive car for sure set a San

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<v Speaker 2>Francisco cop a few days after the robbery. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how far this person is going to go. Turns

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<v Speaker 2>out a long way, or at least that's how it seemed.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Fiertti explaining how he found out to reporters.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in Chicago shooting diners, drivings and dives. And actually,

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<v Speaker 4>because the cameras were running when we were, when I

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<v Speaker 4>answered the phone, I thought, oh, I'm getting You know,

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<v Speaker 4>someone's messing with me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is this is a bad joke, But

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<v Speaker 1>this is It wasn't a bad joke.

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<v Speaker 2>Because nobody said about the tequila two. Both times he

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<v Speaker 2>thought he was being prankant. Thinks, I mean he's had

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<v Speaker 2>a traumatic childhood. His parents they pranked him NonStop. You

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<v Speaker 2>got our people are constantly calling him and being like

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<v Speaker 2>your house burned down, guy? Yeah, yeah, your mom has

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<v Speaker 2>passed away. Oh that was a step too far, wasn't that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I'm sorry, guy Fieri. So the extremely bright

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<v Speaker 2>yellow Lambo was missing for a year and a half

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<v Speaker 2>and seemed lost, probably shipped overseas. Fietti moved on. He

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<v Speaker 2>got a new car, and what kind of car do

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<v Speaker 2>you buy? After your Lambeau gets stolen, do you think upgrade,

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<v Speaker 2>down grade?

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<v Speaker 1>You buy the exact same car. Nope. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometime sometime after the theft, Fietti posted a picture of

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<v Speaker 2>his new ride on Twitter with this caption.

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<v Speaker 5>Lane, why am I reading this?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you have blonde hair? You're the closest at Pietti.

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<v Speaker 5>He was born in Columbus, Ohio, and I am from Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's why bitch and Camaro.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks to my brothers at Chevy. First yellow con off

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<v Speaker 5>the line.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's con for convertible. So he got a

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<v Speaker 2>yellow convertible, which was the Lamborghini. However, Camaro a bitchin Camaro.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks allne excellent. You sounded just like him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I gotta say. If I'm a celebrity and

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<v Speaker 1>I've had my Lamborghini stolen, my next move is to

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<v Speaker 1>publicly advertise my newer car that has replaced the other

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<v Speaker 1>car that got stolen, to let everybody know, Hey, now

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<v Speaker 1>this one can be taken if you're around.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like the lady who posted her vacation on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, guys, I'm gonna be gone, doors unlocked, come on in.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing, Fietti's Lambeau wasn't actually gone. It

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<v Speaker 1>never left the Bay Area.

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<v Speaker 2>For eighteen months after the theft, Fiertti would sometimes get

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<v Speaker 2>calls from friends who claim to have seen the car,

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<v Speaker 2>calls he would dismiss, pointing out that his wasn't the

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<v Speaker 2>only canary yellow Lambeau an extremely wealthy and douchey tech

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<v Speaker 2>laden Bay Area. Surely there are others, but in fact

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<v Speaker 2>the thief was driving the car quite often. Fiertti was shocked,

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<v Speaker 2>grudgingly impressed even quote come to find out he was

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<v Speaker 2>driving it. Brave kid, Yeah, And that kid turned out

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<v Speaker 2>to be a seventeen year old named Max Wade, who

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<v Speaker 2>was later arrested at the end of a brief and

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<v Speaker 2>flamboyant crime spree that involved Fake Id's weed dealing what

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<v Speaker 2>prosecutors asserted was an attempted double murder of a girl

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<v Speaker 2>he liked and her love interest.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>It was also known to take over empty mansions and

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<v Speaker 2>throw parties when the owners were away, and at the

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<v Speaker 2>time of his arrest was apparently planning to use a

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<v Speaker 2>helicopter to land atop a large jewelry store in downtown

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco and rob the place.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote.

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<v Speaker 2>I had an addiction to criminality, he told the court.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, outside of the double murder, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a fun guy. The double murder really really a tarnish

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<v Speaker 1>on the record.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an attempted double murder, to be fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, still, hey, attempted successful. Either way, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were kind of one of those fun

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<v Speaker 1>criminals throwing parties at mansions, get out of town.

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<v Speaker 2>I know a lot about this story. I covered it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think we should actually get into it in

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<v Speaker 2>detail in a future episode. But this episode today is

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<v Speaker 2>all about guy. Oh yah, So we'll come back to

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<v Speaker 2>the Max Waide story. At one point before his arrest,

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco cops got a tip that this kid had

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<v Speaker 2>guys car and went to see him at his home

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<v Speaker 2>in Weren County, but couldn't prove it, which doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>that he was subtle about it. He drove it on dates.

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<v Speaker 2>He also bragged about it, at one point, texting this

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<v Speaker 2>to a friend, Man, I love my life boosting a

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<v Speaker 2>lambeau and picking up cute girls when you're seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a year and a half of that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of behavior and nobody was like, hey, run those plates

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, is.

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<v Speaker 2>That kid driving a yellow Lambo?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I don't see the last seventeen year olds with

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<v Speaker 1>a Lambo? All right, it's probably fine, Probably checks out.

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<v Speaker 2>So cops ultimately found the Lambo in a storage locker

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<v Speaker 2>rented by Wade, along with guns, fake IDs, and an

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<v Speaker 2>answer to the mystery of what he planned to do

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<v Speaker 2>with the car, a contract to sell and ship the

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<v Speaker 2>car to the Dominican Republic for two hundred and one thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred dollars. The name Wade used for the transaction

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<v Speaker 2>Carmine Leone, Leoni Colombo, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I if you're gonna go with a pseudonym for your

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<v Speaker 1>life of crime, try to make it one that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like the head of a mafia that's also living a

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<v Speaker 1>life of crime.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a I mean role model. Maybe yeah. So Wade

0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:12.600
<v Speaker 2>was ultimately charged as an adult with many things, most

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<v Speaker 2>seriously the attempted murder charges. He was convicted and sentenced

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<v Speaker 2>to life in prison, which felt like kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a life in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>However, he's been a model prisoner fighting to have that

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<v Speaker 2>reduced ever since, and appears to be headed for parole

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<v Speaker 2>sometime in the future. Okay, rumor has it, Guy Fieri

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<v Speaker 2>even showed up at San Quentin this year trying to

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<v Speaker 2>meet with Max, who isn't allowed to interact with his victims.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna bet guys trying to get the movie rights.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you, I think Guy is a pretty good person,

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<v Speaker 1>and I bet you actually does want to probably help

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<v Speaker 1>the kid. I bet you guy it actually has a

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<v Speaker 1>heart to be like, Yeah, I don't, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>bet you if you asked him right now, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>think he should be in there for life.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's extremely wild and on brand though that like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sure lots of celebrities at their car stolen,

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<v Speaker 2>but like this is a very like if Guy Fieri's

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<v Speaker 2>car has got to get stolen, a kid repelling into

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<v Speaker 2>a dealership driving it around for a year. Yeah, taking

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<v Speaker 2>girls on dates feels very appropriate for Fietti. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's set up some pitch meetings for our movie, Guy Toro,

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<v Speaker 2>because he's also a bullfighter.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the mayor of Flavor Town and he's a matador. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's the elevator pitch for our movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfect sold.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, welcome back to Crime List, and now for our

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<v Speaker 2>final segment, lane, What are we doing today?

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<v Speaker 1>Game?

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<v Speaker 5>That's right? Today, I have a game. I think I'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna call celebrities they're just like us. But it is

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<v Speaker 5>inspired by Guy Fieri Fieri Erti Yette. We all know

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 5>he's a good businessman. I think we can argue, but

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<v Speaker 5>he knows that not every venture of his is going

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<v Speaker 5>to be a big hit. For example, his twenty twelve

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<v Speaker 5>Times Square restaurant Guy's American Kitchen and Bar received maybe

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<v Speaker 5>the worst review ever from The New York Times. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 5>I want to share some quotes with you. One, Hey,

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<v Speaker 5>did you try that blue drink? The one that glows

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<v Speaker 5>like nuclear waste? Any idea why it tastes like some

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<v Speaker 5>combination of radiator fluid and for meldehyde? Oh, the New

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<v Speaker 5>York Times. But somehow, after zero stars, that zero star review,

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<v Speaker 5>it stayed open for five more years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he had his revenge on that, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he did. So today we're going to explore

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<v Speaker 5>the world of failed celebrity business ventures. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>give you the name of a famous person and you

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<v Speaker 5>need to guess what type of business they failed at.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so just a type of business, not a specific

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<v Speaker 2>name of a business.

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<v Speaker 1>Bonus points if you can name a bit, name it yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, okay, We're gonna start with Jessica Simpson.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to go for us Roy, I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to know what you have.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go with Cowboy hats, Cowboy boots.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the price?

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<v Speaker 2>Is right?

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<v Speaker 1>Me going one dollar down?

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<v Speaker 5>You guys are both wrong. She had an edible beauty

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<v Speaker 5>brand called Dessert Beauty. It was launched in two thousand

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<v Speaker 5>and four. The reviews were so bad. One customer got

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<v Speaker 5>a yeast infection from the butterscotch toffee body wash. Another

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<v Speaker 5>person said that the deliciously kissable belly button love potion

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<v Speaker 5>of fragrance. She was filed everywhere by bees because she

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<v Speaker 5>spread it on herself.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, were we were close? Okay you view yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>ballpark number two Young?

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<v Speaker 5>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Neil Young had a line I don't know why, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actively trying to get this right when it's impossible. Neil

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<v Speaker 1>Young had a line of steakhouses salad dressing.

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<v Speaker 5>Those are good guesses, Neil Oh, I actually really like.

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<v Speaker 5>Neil Young had a device called the Pono Player, and

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<v Speaker 5>it was his attempt to bring the Vinyl experience to

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<v Speaker 5>the digital realm. He launched his version of the iPod

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<v Speaker 5>in twenty eleven. It was shaped like a tobler Own

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<v Speaker 5>chocolate and cost four hundred dollars. It did not make

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<v Speaker 5>any money, and critics said the science behind it didn't

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:44.200
<v Speaker 5>make any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to say that his business manager should

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:51.360
<v Speaker 2>have intervened. Yeah, He's like, I have an idea. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to take on the iPod.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's going to be a pyramid.

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing. It's shaped like a pyramid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but here's the thing. We're going to try to

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<v Speaker 1>take it on way after it's clearly established itself.

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, Okay, that's an amazing I love that a lot,

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 2>So it could be hard to top that one. Lane.

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:13.640
<v Speaker 5>I don't know. This one's pretty good.

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Steven Spielberg, Oh boy, a line of little sharks that

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 2>you wind up and put in your bath.

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<v Speaker 1>Ub Josh, that's a beautiful and adorable guest. There's no

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>way it's right, but man, I want it to be.

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I think he tried to get into the digital camera game.

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a good guess.

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<v Speaker 5>Those are interesting guesses, And I'm afraid Josh was the

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 5>closest not right.

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I did hope for that.

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<v Speaker 5>He had a restaurant called Dive that was a nautical

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 5>themed restaurant inspired by his love of deep sea exploration.

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 5>It was a large yellow submarine in Century City in

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 5>LA and it was around for about five years.

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Perfect place to put the nautical themed restaurant in Century City.

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okay, I'm gonna keep rolling through it. We got

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<v Speaker 5>a couple more Whole Cogan.

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Wrestling singlets.

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was going to say edible underwear.

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 5>Uh no. He opened a pasta themed restaurant called Pasta

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 5>Mania in the Mall of America in nineteen ninety five.

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 2>A restaurant I'm just going to guess restaurant from now on.

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<v Speaker 1>I went steakhouse with Neil Young were the one guy there,

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>although it was tobol her own esque, so food was.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh yeah. He unveiled it with a giant bull spaghetti

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 5>and a pasta eating contest and it closed within a year.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh yeah, Okay. The Kardashians, they have had a lot

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 5>of successful businesses and ventures, so it hit me with

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 5>the one that failed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the makeup has worked, but I don't know if

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.080
<v Speaker 1>the makeup is all of them are just one one

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>of them.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a joint venture.

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll get I'm gonna say a restaurant.

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say. They took on the personal computer, the

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<v Speaker 2>laptop shaped like a high heel.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 5>In twenty ten, they released a prepaid debit card called

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 5>the Kardashian Card. Oh yeah, it had their faces on

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 5>the front of it, but it was abandoned after a

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 5>month because it had astronomically high fees.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so scamming, just a At least Neil Young shot

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<v Speaker 2>for the stars.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, get out of here. At least he was

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<v Speaker 1>doing a dobler own that plays music.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Last one, This is another Kim, but it's Kim Bassinger Basinger. Yeah, yeah, Basinger.

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<v Speaker 2>Mine's a little young for this one. Lord Rory, and

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 2>I remember Kim.

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 5>Basis Basinger, Kim Basinger.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be Bassinger. Actually I don't know, but I've

0:30:58.680 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>ever said it out loud.

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>She released a steakhouse a perfume, A perfume that melted

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<v Speaker 1>people's skin.

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go with a bathing suit line.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys are thinking way too small.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. She tried to start a city.

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<v Speaker 5>She bought the small town of what Braselton, Georgia, which

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<v Speaker 5>is about seventeen hundred acres in nineteen eighty nine for

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 5>twenty million dollars. Her idea was to turn it into

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<v Speaker 5>a tourist attraction and have some movie studios and a

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 5>film festival, but she was facing some personal bankruptcy and

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<v Speaker 5>then she had to sell it a few years later

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<v Speaker 5>for like a fraction of what she Maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to declare Rory the winner, because even though

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't his first guest, he did say it right

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<v Speaker 2>before you get the city.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to buy a town, just to get

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<v Speaker 1>to be in charge. Everyone has to do what you say.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I think it is. Gets animated.

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<v Speaker 2>Fieri has Flavortown. I'm not sure what state that's in, but.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to go there. That's where we should do

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<v Speaker 1>a live show, Flavortown.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming to you live from Flavortown. That wow, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And Rory, good work. You win. Even though you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get any right, you got that one kind of right.

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