Speaker 1: VideA Around the NFL podcast starting a bunch of nerds
Speaker 1: who never played a link of football. That's not true,
Speaker 1: not true. Welcome to another dish to the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast, presented by the United States Marine Corps. My
Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansus, and I'm joined in a room
Speaker 1: filled with football players, a little rugged bros. Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Chris Wesley and Greg Rosa thought, what is up boys now?
Speaker 1: Anyone that's listened to the show, because it comes up
Speaker 1: as much as he brings up that he lived in England.
Speaker 1: Mark played football, played running back at the Pop Warner level.
Speaker 1: Um went on to high school when at a cornerback, cornerback,
Speaker 1: and I also actually was a right guard for a
Speaker 1: year or two. That had to be a bad team. Well,
Speaker 1: everyone weighed about seventy eight pounds, so it was like
Speaker 1: a different different times. Were you known for shutting down
Speaker 1: one side of the football field Cessler Island as it were?
Speaker 1: To be clear? No, Um, Hi, everybody, Hi, everybody, little sins.
Speaker 1: A little update to the programming. Greg will be joining
Speaker 1: me tonight. Oh that is an update. Yes, in Mark's place,
Speaker 1: Mark is hard at work on a long form that
Speaker 1: about to be he's going to change the world. It's uh,
Speaker 1: it's caused me some stress, but I'm hoping the final
Speaker 1: product will tweet about some writer's block. Huh. If you've
Speaker 1: ever dealt with that, like, I just can't. I can't
Speaker 1: get out of it. I don't know. Do you know
Speaker 1: your boy Carolac? Yeah, drag himself to death? Uh, okay,
Speaker 1: shot himself. Well, I don't know. We did not shoot himself.
Speaker 1: How old was he he died at I believe around
Speaker 1: sixty three? Okay, Yeah, that's not what A lot of
Speaker 1: times you kind of peek artistically and it starts going downhill.
Speaker 1: I was just putting it out there. Maybe the writer's
Speaker 1: block doesn't become unblocked. Oh, I've certainly peaked artistically. Nothing better.
Speaker 1: It's going to be happening at this point. You just
Speaker 1: started going through the motions trying to, you know, earn
Speaker 1: a paycheck everything weeks and roll with it. It's a
Speaker 1: little different lineup on on Thursday night, we asked West actually,
Speaker 1: but just with the tension between the two of you
Speaker 1: from last time, last show, it just didn't seem like
Speaker 1: it was seems smart. Well, the kirks and stuff, just
Speaker 1: a lot of multiple issues. I had multiple people stopped
Speaker 1: me in the office to say they enjoyed the back
Speaker 1: and forth. Of course, though it was it was fine. Now.
Speaker 1: There times in the history of this podcast where show
Speaker 1: ended and there was a little tension. I sensed none
Speaker 1: of that after I was good. I will say though,
Speaker 1: that the champ is here two minutes that was some
Speaker 1: real tension and also maybe my favorite two minutes of
Speaker 1: the show all the year. That was I mean, I
Speaker 1: I feel like I spoke honestly about and go back
Speaker 1: and check it. I hadn't seen the Sessler eyes the season.
Speaker 1: They came out in that moment, which I was not expecting.
Speaker 1: That topic will do it, and it's been doing it
Speaker 1: every Sunday all season long. I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 1: This is a interesting week in football. First of all, uh,
Speaker 1: we have what I call three A plus games, and
Speaker 1: then in Ravens at Bills, Niners at Saints, Chiefs of Patriots,
Speaker 1: and then I I call them B plus games because
Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot on the line and
Speaker 1: there's fun games. Titans at Raiders, Seahawks at Rams. I
Speaker 1: might even give any minus the Seahawks Ram you want
Speaker 1: to bump it up A minus. Yeah, I think so
Speaker 1: I was bumping on up. I mean plus you got
Speaker 1: out there Alan, Chris, Chris, Michelle. Don't leave Michelle out.
Speaker 1: You got last year's NFC champion. This is really there,
Speaker 1: especially polished today. What's happening? Yeah, what's going on here?
Speaker 1: How am I different? Your beard? Trimmed? Trimmed in the
Speaker 1: I trimmed the beard? Can we get it on Greg's
Speaker 1: beard because it's it's really really really uh you know,
Speaker 1: well you got makeup on coming up? Yeah, I did, NFL.
Speaker 1: Now that's the one that requires the makeup. Earlier beard.
Speaker 1: I did get a haircuts. The only issue the mustache
Speaker 1: isn't connecting to the beard, but the rest of the
Speaker 1: beard looks amazing. Actually wow, there's a lot of uncomfortable
Speaker 1: with a pocket and after connect if you look good,
Speaker 1: okay in front of a touch Greg as much as
Speaker 1: you as it please, as you did anyway, So we
Speaker 1: got uh, we have two three A plus games, one
Speaker 1: A minus game in a B plus game, and then
Speaker 1: we got a lot of big wood being laid because
Speaker 1: there's a lot of just one sided games and according
Speaker 1: to the desert, so it's an interesting week. It's topsy Turvy.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. So let's get into a draft style.
Speaker 1: Uh old juicers picking first? And I thought, wow, how
Speaker 1: lucky that I'm picking first. But there's so many great games,
Speaker 1: as I just alluded to, that you can't really go wrong.
Speaker 1: In fact, it's it's one of those situations like in
Speaker 1: a fantasy draft we just stress out because it's like
Speaker 1: you have so you have multiple options that would work
Speaker 1: as number one, and then you're just who am I
Speaker 1: gonna pick? Christian McCaffrey. Am I gonna pick Alan Kamara?
Speaker 1: That type of situation, or like David Johnson or sa
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley and ruin your whole season exactly Exactly In
Speaker 1: my Fantasy League of Record, the guy traded for the
Speaker 1: number one overall pick, giving up his second round pick
Speaker 1: and his first to get quon he's not in the playoffs. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, here we go, first pick. It's Dan Mark
Speaker 1: Reig West West no bye week, so you've got four
Speaker 1: games on your plate, so dig in. It's terrible. We
Speaker 1: might form out a game. It's not like I have
Speaker 1: to write about him. I'll have to do is watch
Speaker 1: him and talk about him on the show. Okay, here
Speaker 1: we go first overall pick will be forty Niners at STS.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to ten and two teams huge ramifications
Speaker 1: here in the NFC. The Niners listen, they've lost two
Speaker 1: games on field goals, this time expired, and yet now
Speaker 1: here they are in the fifth seed in the NFC
Speaker 1: UM so, you know, perhaps one of the better fifth
Speaker 1: seeds in recent memory. And maybe they won't stay there,
Speaker 1: but hey, if they lose this game, they just might
Speaker 1: because the Saints uh moved up to the one seed
Speaker 1: with that Niners loss um in week thirteen, and I'll
Speaker 1: be very interested to see how New Orleans looks. I
Speaker 1: haven't been blown away by the Saints in the past month.
Speaker 1: November was a little bit of a weird month for
Speaker 1: the Saints. It started with that ugly loss of the Falcons,
Speaker 1: and then they stacked some wins and they won three straight.
Speaker 1: But at and at no point in the Bucks game
Speaker 1: they were they were pretty good. But I wasn't really
Speaker 1: blown away by how they're playing. I think they need
Speaker 1: to raise their game a level, um. And the sign
Speaker 1: of a good team is that you win when you're
Speaker 1: not quite uh you know, raving on all engines. So again,
Speaker 1: This is not me saying I'm worried about the Saints
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but I wonder if the Niners
Speaker 1: are getting the Saints at a time before they kind
Speaker 1: of figure it out, or if this is all in
Speaker 1: my head. I mean, are you guys seeing the same
Speaker 1: thing that maybe the Saints aren't really uh performing at
Speaker 1: their top level right now. The one thing I'm really
Speaker 1: impressed with. I don't think their pass rush and they're
Speaker 1: defensive front gets enough attention, and I you know, and
Speaker 1: this certainly in this game, you're gonna focus more on
Speaker 1: the forty Niners defense. But they absolutely battered Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: and the Falcons in that last game. And you know,
Speaker 1: Cam Jordan is playing at the absolute peak level. So
Speaker 1: I I like the matchup. But I hear you. They're
Speaker 1: not the typical Saints blow you out on offense. They're
Speaker 1: they just I think they're a mistake free offense. They've
Speaker 1: been good because they don't kill mistakes. One weakness I
Speaker 1: think they do have is like, who's the guy right
Speaker 1: now at a wide receiver behind Michael Thomas. Jared god
Speaker 1: Cook is obviously really stepped up, and that if Cook
Speaker 1: didn't step up, they'd be in a world to hurt
Speaker 1: right now. I I'm with you, Dan. I also don't
Speaker 1: think there is battle tested. I mean, the forty Niners
Speaker 1: have had these game of the years every other week.
Speaker 1: They had the Packers, they had the Seahawks, they had
Speaker 1: the Ravens. The Saints offense especially hasn't had a lot
Speaker 1: of great tests. And this is the most difficult test
Speaker 1: there is for a past seen attack. And normally you
Speaker 1: think strength on strength, you're taking Drew Brees and the
Speaker 1: Saints passing attack. But to me that the forty Niners
Speaker 1: past defense is the more special group in this game.
Speaker 1: And this is a different Saints team, their first in
Speaker 1: the league. In terms of preventing turnovers. As Mark mentioned,
Speaker 1: they don't make mistakes. But their ninth in points per drive,
Speaker 1: their ninth in yards per play. It's not an elite
Speaker 1: uh Saints offense. And I think this this is by
Speaker 1: far their toughest matchup wo I would be shocked if
Speaker 1: he told me at the beginning of the year that
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara and Leonard Fournette have the same receiving numbers.
Speaker 1: His his yards per reception is down from ten point
Speaker 1: two as a rookie to six point nine year, he's
Speaker 1: not been a huge big play threat for the Saints offense.
Speaker 1: And he's not had a hundred yard rushing game all
Speaker 1: year either, Because if you're gonna beat the forty Niners,
Speaker 1: it seems like you would do it on the ground,
Speaker 1: Like can they run? Camara hasn't quite been at the
Speaker 1: level that he has in previous years. The last few weeks.
Speaker 1: I think he's looked better just the the eye test,
Speaker 1: but he was struggling with an injury earlier, and I
Speaker 1: think that is how you beat the forty Niners. I
Speaker 1: like Evan Silva calling Taysom Hill the fantasy football version
Speaker 1: of Satan because he's gonna get in there and sneak
Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns away from you, and he's up
Speaker 1: to five and if he hit seven, those sandwiches are
Speaker 1: and that counts. This is a healthier forty Niners team too.
Speaker 1: Now they've spent the week on the East Coast. It's
Speaker 1: like a back to back, tough road like that's tricky,
Speaker 1: but they are healthier. De Ford looks like he's gonna
Speaker 1: be back. Joe Staley looks like he's gonna be back.
Speaker 1: Kittle is now you know, another week healthier. This is
Speaker 1: a team that's battled through so much. I'm really just
Speaker 1: so impressed with what they've done all year, battling through injuries.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna get Matt Breeda back. But do
Speaker 1: you even Ben traheem Moster after how good he looked like?
Speaker 1: There's I think they're outside zone running. Is is a
Speaker 1: good matchup this week against the Saints team who's so
Speaker 1: short on linebackers. They had to bring Mente Teo back
Speaker 1: into the eg. So Kiko alonsos her agent clins a
Speaker 1: little hurt like they're playing Kik Alons a little too much.
Speaker 1: Like I like this matchup for the forty nineers. I
Speaker 1: was thinking about locking it up. It seems a little
Speaker 1: crazy to lock that up on the road to but
Speaker 1: I am picking them. That man tell a story was
Speaker 1: crazy that I do remember that. I think most of
Speaker 1: the fake girlfriend that died. I mean, I know we've
Speaker 1: moved on as a society, but now that we have
Speaker 1: some time, like that's crazy. We can unpack it now
Speaker 1: if you really. I mean his ultimately, um a sad
Speaker 1: story that was about and he's he's you know, and
Speaker 1: and he's kind of was like a huge superstar and
Speaker 1: he's had an okay career lasted a little. Combine was insane?
Speaker 1: Were you guys with that one? Where Like the the
Speaker 1: press conference for Mantie Tail was one of the more
Speaker 1: insane things I've ever witnessed. I remember after he's got
Speaker 1: he got drafted in the second round right by the Saints, No,
Speaker 1: by the charge of chargers Um talking to went back.
Speaker 1: We were in more in our journal days talking to
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, the Notre Dame coach on the second level
Speaker 1: of Radio City Music Hall, and uh, Kelly's spinning all positive.
Speaker 1: They're just proud of the kid that he'd gotten everything
Speaker 1: back on track. I guess Brian Kelly couldn't get mezzanine
Speaker 1: level like us. L Those those were the days sitting
Speaker 1: in those Radio City Music Hall that set me back
Speaker 1: with my chiropractor and my neck for like five years. No,
Speaker 1: they had to move over before we move on from
Speaker 1: this game. It really might be the biggest game in
Speaker 1: terms of seeding in the NFC the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: If the Saints win it, they have a pretty clear
Speaker 1: path to back to back home field advantages, whereas if
Speaker 1: the forty Niners get it, uh, then then that Seahawks
Speaker 1: forty Niners game might be what the sides the NFC
Speaker 1: West and the one seas and they're easy to think
Speaker 1: the Niners will be on the road potentially as a
Speaker 1: wild card team after the journey they've been on. If
Speaker 1: things don't get luck, NFC East champion, that's what happens,
Speaker 1: and keep an eye out. I almost like, regardless of
Speaker 1: how this game turns out, but especially if the Niners win,
Speaker 1: that week seventeen Niners at Seattle game could just have
Speaker 1: nothing can in place, and then that game will lock
Speaker 1: in a lot in the NFC the best week seventeen
Speaker 1: flex games aad. All right, let's move on uh Mark Europe. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, in a normal week, I would want to
Speaker 1: uh lock in one of these late games just so
Speaker 1: you're not dealing with too much chaos early. But there's
Speaker 1: a game that just attracts it's too attractive to me
Speaker 1: to pass up, and it's Baltimore Buffalo. I think this
Speaker 1: is one of the more interesting showdowns of the year.
Speaker 1: And you know, you look at this Ravens team. They're
Speaker 1: not gonna have Greg Roman two months from now. He's
Speaker 1: gonna get a head coaching job, and so you are
Speaker 1: really in the final stages of that. This coaching showdown
Speaker 1: between John Harbaugh and Sean McDermott, to me is what
Speaker 1: I what I'm signing up for on Sunday. I think
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, obviously, we all like him. He's done a
Speaker 1: very good job. And I think Buffalo's defense, because of
Speaker 1: the way that their linebackers operate and because of their
Speaker 1: very sticky coverage and trevious white, has been all pro level.
Speaker 1: I think this is a team that could hold Baltimore
Speaker 1: down the way that we really haven't seen too many
Speaker 1: be able to do. I love that it's in Buffalo,
Speaker 1: and I this is gonna be a test. I don't
Speaker 1: see this as some sort of thirty to ten type thing.
Speaker 1: I look at this more as a twenty two seventeen
Speaker 1: type game. But the underside, the undersold part of Buffalo
Speaker 1: Baltimore is their defense, and they've been Their pass rush
Speaker 1: is amped up, and I just want to see if
Speaker 1: they can get if they can get into Josh Allen's
Speaker 1: head and create some issues there. There's like the little
Speaker 1: dance movie you made at the end of there's a
Speaker 1: little treat for our YouTube watching. Oh yeah, we're live
Speaker 1: on YouTube every Thursday. Strength of the Bill's defense is
Speaker 1: their secondary and I wonder how that matches up against
Speaker 1: the Ravens, a team where the advantage they have of
Speaker 1: where everyone else in the NFL, in addition to Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson is once you get near midfield, you have to
Speaker 1: stop four downs and the best kicker in the history
Speaker 1: of the game, whereas Steven how she get the Bills
Speaker 1: kicker it's pretty much limited at forty five yards, it's
Speaker 1: been messing. It's a great matchup the Ravens run game
Speaker 1: versus these Bills linebackers, Matt Milano Traymont Edmonds. I mean,
Speaker 1: they are the ones that are going to be taxed
Speaker 1: more than anyone, and if anyone could keep up with
Speaker 1: them on the outside, I would say Milano at Edmonds
Speaker 1: would have a chance. I'm more curious to see Josh
Speaker 1: Allen building off what's been the best three weeks stretch
Speaker 1: of his career easily, I think by far, the best
Speaker 1: game of his career against Dallas, and they've been playing
Speaker 1: a lot more hurry up and maybe that's a way
Speaker 1: to do it against Baltimore, where the Patriots did some
Speaker 1: of the same and that prevents some of the you know,
Speaker 1: the chicanery, the blitz is the substitutions that Baltimore likes
Speaker 1: to do. I don't love the Bills through the air
Speaker 1: in this game against Baltimore secondary either. I mean they
Speaker 1: they are playmaker playmakers. Obviously, Marcus Peters has been awesome,
Speaker 1: and I you know what what weapon John Brown's had
Speaker 1: a nice season of game that is a revenge game.
Speaker 1: Robert Foster he coming on a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess that's where but when we're talking about Robert
Speaker 1: Foster as your downfield weapon, there's some issues there. I
Speaker 1: I would be more worried a out. You know, if
Speaker 1: I'm a Bills fan. The their pass rush is just
Speaker 1: it's okay, Like their defensive ends are okay. And going
Speaker 1: up against this Ravens team, Lamar admitted, you know, the
Speaker 1: weather gave him some issues last week with the slippery ball.
Speaker 1: He wasn't accurate. Yeah, I did check the forecast. Supposed
Speaker 1: to be a little windy, chance of precipitation. I think
Speaker 1: if you're the Bills, you're hoping this game. But Ravens
Speaker 1: don't care about bad weather, I guess. But Lamar he
Speaker 1: he said it like it messed him up last week.
Speaker 1: I mean he he did not throw the ball well. Uh,
Speaker 1: they did not throw the ball well as a team,
Speaker 1: and maybe it was impossible to and that in that situation.
Speaker 1: I mean, when I hear windy, I think Josh Allen
Speaker 1: interception at a key moment. I mean it's, you know,
Speaker 1: a downfield strike that goes totally awry. He might actually
Speaker 1: helped because he doesn't put any loft on the ball.
Speaker 1: Power through that went all right? Next up? Great? I forgot.
Speaker 1: Uh I was going to lock up the Ravens on
Speaker 1: the road there. Oh see, you now see the lock
Speaker 1: sounds better. I like it. I mean I didn't deliver
Speaker 1: it in the right way. Timing was poor. I can
Speaker 1: respect that lock. It's a good luck it checks out.
Speaker 1: And also, you begrudgingly have come around a little bit
Speaker 1: on the bills, but it just shows that you still
Speaker 1: don't believe them to be in that top tier. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm with you a little bit. But it's more that
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are one of the greatest teams
Speaker 1: we've ever covered, and you're not going to have a
Speaker 1: change them up. I mean they are. I mean they
Speaker 1: are I think one of the best regular season teams
Speaker 1: that we've we've covered and it certainly in the six
Speaker 1: or seven years. So if if I'm if the if
Speaker 1: the Desert's gonna allow me to do it, which they
Speaker 1: do this week, I'll do it. I haven't really thought
Speaker 1: about that, like if we did, this would have been
Speaker 1: a good time to do it. Maybe that's a good Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Uh seg now that where everybody else gets to do
Speaker 1: their end of decade shows. We could do you know
Speaker 1: around the NFL podcast start best teams, maybe some of
Speaker 1: those Seahawks teams from old well all right, hey, Ricky
Speaker 1: as the producer, can you mind me of that about
Speaker 1: two weeks? Two weeks so not that's coming TUESDA. No,
Speaker 1: let's got to bury it like right at the end
Speaker 1: of the year, so we have the full decade to
Speaker 1: work with. I mean, you know, the websites trying to
Speaker 1: get it out early because people just hammering that contract
Speaker 1: all December. That's true, but I check it in. That's
Speaker 1: always my radar a little bit. It's like the best
Speaker 1: of the decade of the past six years of your
Speaker 1: seven years, right, It's like Pittsfork released Best of the
Speaker 1: Decade November fourth or something. It's like, come on about
Speaker 1: the competition. Yeah, we're not doing that right. We want
Speaker 1: to we want to actually watch all these games and
Speaker 1: these teams before we put together on listen. It's not
Speaker 1: a decade, it's just our decade, which is you know,
Speaker 1: six plus years, seven seasons that could even include some
Speaker 1: of the website. You know, the blog was up. I
Speaker 1: guess it was even eleven, but who knows. Yeah, thirteen
Speaker 1: the podcast. That's what matters. Pod decade. Okay, I'm glad
Speaker 1: we figure that out. West. It's like, please move on, right,
Speaker 1: and we don't have any bye. Weeks were like, let's
Speaker 1: be quicker this week. I was just thinking, if you're
Speaker 1: doing it into the decade, like overview, maybe don't take
Speaker 1: yourself so seriously. It's kind of a flimsy topic anyway,
Speaker 1: you know, in some hands on some hand, yes, but
Speaker 1: I like love that will do in the place that
Speaker 1: is so trenching, right, I love that content, like I
Speaker 1: I eat it up, so you know the people like
Speaker 1: it all. Right, here we go, Greg, you were up
Speaker 1: with a third pick. You have locked up. I was
Speaker 1: I was worried that this is I thought this is
Speaker 1: how the draft was gonna go and um, I'm taking
Speaker 1: Chiefs Patriots late. Gotta do it. I'm just gotta bag
Speaker 1: it's by far the best game left than anything else.
Speaker 1: Seems silly. You don't have to explain that one, right.
Speaker 1: I am curious, uh this week to see the Patriots
Speaker 1: secondary against this Chiefs team who's been a little disjointed
Speaker 1: on offense. You know, Patrick Mahomes back to back weeks
Speaker 1: under two hundred yards. I'm not worried because he finally
Speaker 1: looks healthy. If I was a Chiefs hand, I'm not
Speaker 1: worried about Patrick Mahomes, but I would say they feel
Speaker 1: a little more reliant lately on him just creating magic.
Speaker 1: That every throw is him just backing up, backing up
Speaker 1: or him running the ball has been key in the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, and they haven't had the same
Speaker 1: rhythm on offense with the long drives and Andy Reid
Speaker 1: creating plays. And they gotta go up against their toughest matchup,
Speaker 1: uh that they'll face, which is this Patriots secondary, which
Speaker 1: in many ways I believe that Bill Belichick built for
Speaker 1: this game, that this Patriots team in some ways. You know,
Speaker 1: Andrew Hawkins, who was on the Patriots, said they would
Speaker 1: always when when he was there, just in the training camp,
Speaker 1: they were always talking. I believe at that time it
Speaker 1: was about the Colts, and it's like they that was
Speaker 1: the one team they had to beat and they built
Speaker 1: their off season around it. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are to this team. And I think the
Speaker 1: Patriots are as well set up with their secondary as
Speaker 1: any team in the league to slow him down. I
Speaker 1: think if Travis kel Kelsey caught a couple of those
Speaker 1: near he had one near touchdown that kind of went
Speaker 1: through his hands, and in a deep ball that just
Speaker 1: went right past him. I think we're talking to about
Speaker 1: kind of a different story. But you're still wondering about
Speaker 1: the Chiefs running game, which has been kind of hot
Speaker 1: and cold all year, and they haven't really found a guy,
Speaker 1: the one guy that they can trust. At the beginning
Speaker 1: of the year, it seemed like they could take their
Speaker 1: pick of either Shady or Damian Williams and they'd be
Speaker 1: fine with either of those guys. And Damian Williams has
Speaker 1: been out. They don't seem to trust Shady for more
Speaker 1: than ten touches a game. Darwin Thompson looked pretty good
Speaker 1: last week, but he's so tiny, you wonder if what's
Speaker 1: he gonna do against a pretty big Patriots defense. I mean,
Speaker 1: you want to talk about out of sync offense that's
Speaker 1: New England, which just strikes me as slow. There's just
Speaker 1: not a lot happening there. And you know, and I
Speaker 1: understand that Bill Belichick is not only the greatest coach,
Speaker 1: one of the greatest gms of all time, but part
Speaker 1: of me wonders if you got a little bit cute
Speaker 1: forming this offensive roster this season, because it's gonna come
Speaker 1: back and sting them at some point. And if you
Speaker 1: if you get what I don't know what cute like
Speaker 1: to the point of like we can win with almost
Speaker 1: no weapon, you known mess. The Antonio brown move kind
Speaker 1: of points out that he was on his radar this
Speaker 1: team something else. Well, They tried to various Thomas Josh
Speaker 1: Gordon an Tonio Browns their first round because he's not
Speaker 1: good at football right now, and I don't think he's
Speaker 1: done anything to prove that wrong. Nikkill Harry their first
Speaker 1: round pick. They've just swung and missed a lot right now.
Speaker 1: They're not finding guys that actually do what Tom Brady
Speaker 1: wants them to do. I mean, you they were waxed
Speaker 1: by Baltimore fair they I thought Houston won decisively, And
Speaker 1: if you are the Chiefs, I would do what Houston didn't,
Speaker 1: which is employe absolute total aggression to make sure that
Speaker 1: all your weapons are maximized. And then if you're the
Speaker 1: Patriots and you've lost to those three teams, I just
Speaker 1: don't see you the same way. Now, Can they flip
Speaker 1: the switch and do what they always do? Sure? No,
Speaker 1: it'd be ah. They'll have played the three division leaders
Speaker 1: in the a f C all in the second half
Speaker 1: of their season. If you go oh and three in
Speaker 1: that stretch, that that says a lot about their team.
Speaker 1: And West has already told you they're gonna go on
Speaker 1: to Cincinnati and lose this time around last I'm not
Speaker 1: locking that up, but it is. I'm standing the thing
Speaker 1: we talked about last week where Brady is always like
Speaker 1: pointing at the receivers in the middle of the plays.
Speaker 1: Not to go back to uh, you know my co
Speaker 1: host Andrew Hawkins on game debut, but he said he
Speaker 1: said he compared. Okay, he compared, and I thought it
Speaker 1: was such a great He compared being on the Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan offense too. What the Patriots doing. He says, in
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan's offense, every single play there's a right answer
Speaker 1: for the quarterback, Like that's why he loves Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: because Kirk Cousins does exactly what he's supposed to do.
Speaker 1: There there is an exact right answer. And in the
Speaker 1: Patriots offense, the right answer is whatever Tom Brady wants
Speaker 1: you to do. And you have to just know. You
Speaker 1: have to figure out and see everything the way Tom
Speaker 1: Brady wants you to do. And I think Jimmy G
Speaker 1: was good at that too. He had a good feel
Speaker 1: and that's why they loved Jimmy G. But these these receivers,
Speaker 1: and Brady is certainly part of it, it's just they're
Speaker 1: not like they're not seeing it the same way to
Speaker 1: new Yeah, it's sort of rookies. Harry has kind of
Speaker 1: been a little bit of a not a disaster, but
Speaker 1: for a first round pick, he's not helping them. It's
Speaker 1: sort of like if the receiver comes to an open space,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady wants him to sit right there, right because
Speaker 1: you're open. That's what I'm seeing. It's all based on
Speaker 1: the coverage and it's all after the snap. It's all
Speaker 1: after the snap, seeing what the defense is doing and
Speaker 1: adjusting based on that. And when they're not on the
Speaker 1: same page, then Tom Brady can look forty two and
Speaker 1: will that all be sorted out three and a half
Speaker 1: weeks from now when we're rolling into January. Possibly they
Speaker 1: have gotten up Super Bowls with like you know, pretty
Speaker 1: bad receiver groups, but their defense, the defense has to
Speaker 1: be dominant and the formula, and they're also in a
Speaker 1: strong running game at which they don't have. And your
Speaker 1: point about the receivers and Brady not being on the
Speaker 1: same page. You have tweeted it, and Bill Barnwell wrote
Speaker 1: like a deep dive on what's going on with the
Speaker 1: Pats offense this past week. He cited that tweet of yours, Greg,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure you know and you went like this
Speaker 1: when you were yes, hell yeah. I also mentioned it
Speaker 1: on ESPN Daily at times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, Um,
Speaker 1: he wrote, you know, he was digging in on the
Speaker 1: whole thing, and and he did point out something just
Speaker 1: to tell you how inept that offense was before they
Speaker 1: tacked on those touchdowns at the end. Before the three
Speaker 1: late scoring drives against the Texans, Brady was nine for
Speaker 1: ninety yards with an interception and at least two other
Speaker 1: picks that were either dropped or taken away by penalty.
Speaker 1: This is Tom Brady and the paper taken away by
Speaker 1: penalty in late November, early December. This is happening. So
Speaker 1: it does feel a little bit different, which does not
Speaker 1: mean and also one of the things Barnwell pointed out,
Speaker 1: he doesn't need to become Tom Brady again. Look at
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl fifty champion broncos of Peyton Manning. But
Speaker 1: you know that was a historic defense. Maybe the Patriots
Speaker 1: are too, but um, they have work to do. Put
Speaker 1: it that way. I think we all are in agreement
Speaker 1: that this is not if it stays the way it
Speaker 1: is now, such a game. This is the biggest game
Speaker 1: left I think on the a f C conference slate,
Speaker 1: because if the Patriots lose, the Dubai is wide open.
Speaker 1: There oh and three against the division winners. It almost
Speaker 1: feels like two obvious of a changing of the guard
Speaker 1: situation and I and they need to buy They need it.
Speaker 1: If they win, though they have a great you know,
Speaker 1: they're in great position for the bye and and everything
Speaker 1: is fine, they need to run the ball. I think
Speaker 1: which team can run the ball a little bit better,
Speaker 1: because that's that's where the weaknesses of these defenses might win.
Speaker 1: I think you guys all take in the Chiefs. No,
Speaker 1: not Boxborow effect. That can't do it. I'm taking the
Speaker 1: Patriots in a tight one put An eight and five
Speaker 1: Chiefs team raises some questions. Patriots are in the middle
Speaker 1: of a very long winning streak. That's like not a
Speaker 1: big story because they've done. I think they're they have
Speaker 1: the third longest winning home winning streak ever right now,
Speaker 1: but the the top four winning streaks at home of
Speaker 1: all time are all Bill Belichick, Tom Brady. Patriots just
Speaker 1: unbelievable stack. I'm not gonna lock up refused to root
Speaker 1: for them, but this feels like a game. I know
Speaker 1: this feels different, but a game They're gonna rise, rise
Speaker 1: up and win. And I will say this the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: they're they're done in terms of any aspirations of more
Speaker 1: than one home game. They're gonna win the FC West,
Speaker 1: but if they fall to eight and five, they'll end
Speaker 1: up being a tenant six, eleven and five UM team
Speaker 1: that has to go on the road twice to get
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, which is not going to be
Speaker 1: are we allowed to lock this game? I'm gonna lock
Speaker 1: it up for the Patriots. Okay. I was like, I
Speaker 1: didn't even know which way you're gonna go. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: not even uh vegas in their direction? All right, West,
Speaker 1: I could see that going very poorly by the way
Speaker 1: people keep misreading the Patriots. West, you are, Oh, Mark,
Speaker 1: did that just give you a little chill? Like a
Speaker 1: month straight of people acting like the Patriots are still
Speaker 1: the Patriots and they haven't played like that? So but
Speaker 1: West put that lock trophy on my desk, which I
Speaker 1: did not like that move, and I have not won since.
Speaker 1: So it's a tail spin as sounds like almost want
Speaker 1: to do a lock off. I mean you already said
Speaker 1: they were gonna go three, already locked the Cowboys this week. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: West go uh we wanted we have to take one
Speaker 1: of these late games to four o'clock games because there
Speaker 1: are four, so we each have to take one, I
Speaker 1: think in order for that. And you might think Titans
Speaker 1: Raiders is the best of these left, but I'm going
Speaker 1: with team I've been tracking all year, the Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 1: duck at the Arizona Cardinals a little Duck versus Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray action. Get to watch that Steelers defense on a
Speaker 1: grass field. Oh, this is playing grad field us. My
Speaker 1: draft board just opened up. Well, I think the whole
Speaker 1: draft board is open at this point. It was like
Speaker 1: three games and then everything else was equal after that.
Speaker 1: I have a bombshell to drop right after this game.
Speaker 1: But go on, Well, I think the Steelers this in
Speaker 1: the old Mike Tomlin days before this year, when he's
Speaker 1: getting Coach of the Year consideration, this was the trap
Speaker 1: game they would always fall for on the road against
Speaker 1: a bad team. They would lose these games constantly. Seemed
Speaker 1: like every year they would lose these games. And I
Speaker 1: wonder if they're sort of impervious to that this year
Speaker 1: because they've been doubted all year. There's no I don't
Speaker 1: think they've had a full head all year, and they
Speaker 1: have different They don't have Ben Roethlisberger, Antonio Brown, Levy
Speaker 1: on Bill. They're not supposed to be beating up on
Speaker 1: these bad teams to the point where they were just
Speaker 1: expected to. Whereas K would say, it's supposed to game
Speaker 1: and they're supposed to win this game. Because the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: we gave them credit for playing teams tough, but they
Speaker 1: got whitewashed last week. That was the game last year
Speaker 1: was the Raiders where they went in and got nipped
Speaker 1: by Oakland. I like the Pittsburgh obviously ended Cleveland season
Speaker 1: a week ago, and you know it was coming out
Speaker 1: of last year to your yes they didn't, it's over,
Speaker 1: even if they want it's done, it's done. But you
Speaker 1: know that the narrative around Pittsburgh last year was that
Speaker 1: Tomlin was overseeing a circus, that there was a lack
Speaker 1: of discipline and there were too many hotheads and there
Speaker 1: was in fighting. Well, I feel like if you are
Speaker 1: signing up for the Mike Tomlin experience, where he's at
Speaker 1: right now and where he has this team mentally, their
Speaker 1: mental toughness, Like that game against Cleveland, they just willed
Speaker 1: themselves to win with a bunch of guys who wouldn't
Speaker 1: even be starting another team. That doesn't happen like it's
Speaker 1: it wasn't that was this embarrassing a game for Cleveland
Speaker 1: as there is because they were out coached from head
Speaker 1: to toe after the after the ten minute mark of
Speaker 1: the first quarter. It's what I think Steelers fans love
Speaker 1: this team. I mean, I was I couldn't have personally
Speaker 1: been more wrong about this team and the Steelers fans
Speaker 1: because they were so confident this type of run would happen.
Speaker 1: But they've they've had such dominant teams that often fall
Speaker 1: short or like they're supposed to be great and fall short.
Speaker 1: That as a fan experience, and even Mike tom and
Speaker 1: you can hear it in his voice their love in
Speaker 1: this because this is like, this is like football, you know.
Speaker 1: I think it just reminds them it's a it's a
Speaker 1: team game. And their defense, which we've been talking about it,
Speaker 1: I mean it, it's I don't think the Patriots defense
Speaker 1: is any better than the Steelers. I don't really think
Speaker 1: the forty I think the forty Niners are a little
Speaker 1: better than them both because they're just so talented. But
Speaker 1: the Steelers are in that conversation as the best in
Speaker 1: the entire league. Yeah, I think this is the ball
Speaker 1: Hawk defense ever since MACA. Fitzpatrick got there. And you've
Speaker 1: got the reigning a FC Defensive Player of the Month,
Speaker 1: t J. Watt, who should be getting I think he's
Speaker 1: got to be in the defensive player of the year conversation.
Speaker 1: They've got a couple of guys, who is the defensive
Speaker 1: player of the year that I thought about it, I
Speaker 1: think right now for me it would be what Jordan's
Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmore and um In Zadarius Smith because I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write about it on Monday. So I started
Speaker 1: thinking about, you know, who would I put? Aaron Donald
Speaker 1: might be in that mix. Go you know, well, we'll
Speaker 1: talk about Donald. It's crazy, like we talked about the
Speaker 1: Boast appearance at this point, their children making so much money.
Speaker 1: You just sit back and you drink rose and think
Speaker 1: about the Watts. I'd have two sons. They got three.
Speaker 1: I mean, don't forget about old Bobby Watt and in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Sounds pot but it is like historical to
Speaker 1: have two brothers win to a part of the Chris
Speaker 1: Grundkowski All Stars. He's been in the NFL for three years.
Speaker 1: He's a fullback on the Chargers. I mean, that's a
Speaker 1: great accomplishment. I'm just saying he's out there. He's a specialty.
Speaker 1: Have to remember again another example of good teams stay good,
Speaker 1: bad teams stay bad. Handwringing about oh yeah, Steelers trade
Speaker 1: at the top five, it's gonna be like overall pick
Speaker 1: for a all pro cornerback. It's a good trade, It's amazing.
Speaker 1: It's a great matchup for your boy Duck too, because
Speaker 1: the Cardinals give up passing yards more than anyone, so
Speaker 1: you know, Duck Duck could be flying out there. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's high on my list. So well done, all right, Ricky.
Speaker 1: Before we moved to round two in the snake, let's
Speaker 1: checking with the YouTubers. Yeah, a bunch of people have
Speaker 1: asked greg where you come down on young thug. Um.
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge you know, I I like him,
Speaker 1: but I'm not a huge fan. A bunch of people
Speaker 1: asked that I might have been the same guy a
Speaker 1: couple of times. Yeah, because he likes wrap. Um let's
Speaker 1: see what else? Oh yeah, a lot. I respect him,
Speaker 1: but I almost I'm too old for young thug. You know,
Speaker 1: that's not quite in my middle aged thug. Um. At
Speaker 1: least I didn't say flies like a duck or whatever
Speaker 1: like Gregor said that was that was a class right. Um.
Speaker 1: But Dan, a lot of people are wondering what you're
Speaker 1: going to do with your conditional you know trade that
Speaker 1: you made with Mark Lass. That's right. In fact, you
Speaker 1: forgot to tell you just that went into overtime almost
Speaker 1: you came close on him, close to really clean it
Speaker 1: up there. It's not conditional. The conditional was if it
Speaker 1: went to overtime, I would get your first round pick,
Speaker 1: which it did not obviously, but a part of the
Speaker 1: trade terms is that we were swapping second round picks.
Speaker 1: So uh we are I am moving ahead of you,
Speaker 1: which has huge ramifications potentially as round two. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you could you could say eight other things
Speaker 1: are happening that you just drag me wherever you need to.
Speaker 1: I don't remember how this trade went down. I know
Speaker 1: I didn't do whatever you say. Dan also says you
Speaker 1: should tell Dan he's having just a so so hair day.
Speaker 1: You know what, I noticed the same thing when I
Speaker 1: caught brought a couple of glances in the monitor. And
Speaker 1: I will tell you that me, Jack and Harry have
Speaker 1: an appointment with Brett over at jack Barbershop UH in
Speaker 1: Westchester on Friday tomorrow, so that will be record that.
Speaker 1: That's how you grow like a great hair tradition, hair family.
Speaker 1: You three of you all going together to get the haircut.
Speaker 1: You know, That's that's how you keep the tradition going.
Speaker 1: No it's I'm instilling it in them that it's important too.
Speaker 1: Are they going to have your hair though? Or Emily's parents? Uh,
Speaker 1: they're both in good shape. I can't I can't speak
Speaker 1: to that. I hope they did. Let's check back in years. Well,
Speaker 1: you love them just like a little less if they
Speaker 1: don't have your hair. I mean, who the sun that
Speaker 1: has the better hairline is gonna, you know, probably get
Speaker 1: more of the inheritance. I would think, all right, West,
Speaker 1: it's snakes to you once again. All right? That was
Speaker 1: the copper head a snake cow oh. I thought that
Speaker 1: was some kind of Star Wars beast from the bar scene.
Speaker 1: We're not allowed to talk about that film. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've got two Yodas. Now, why is this. I've been
Speaker 1: dealing with one Yoda for forty years. You have not
Speaker 1: been dealing and now I have another Yoda that's all
Speaker 1: over my timeline. It's a baby Yoda. It's like, I'll
Speaker 1: give you, I'll give you this. It's being a little
Speaker 1: bit overplayed on Twitter. But the idea that the first
Speaker 1: Yoda was some sort of taxing deal for you, You've
Speaker 1: never even watched the film. I mean, I think skated
Speaker 1: by I have not skated. I've been, you know, living
Speaker 1: with this Star Wars thing all around me, burying me
Speaker 1: for three decades. Star Wars season. It is Star Wars.
Speaker 1: It's no longer Holiday season, Star Wars season. And it's
Speaker 1: nothing personal towards you, Mark Star Wars fans. I'm one
Speaker 1: of the biggest critics of the many missteps the franchise
Speaker 1: has made. But the fact that it bothers you so much,
Speaker 1: is it? It is? Is? I understand that it's just
Speaker 1: one of those things. As somebody that likes to be
Speaker 1: plugged into pop culture. If I'm going on websites and
Speaker 1: I'm following different people on Twitter and that's all that
Speaker 1: keeps coming at me. I mean, you have a movie
Speaker 1: that's coming out right, correct, the final I Don't Walker
Speaker 1: or whatever, and then you have the Netflix or the
Speaker 1: Disney Plus show that just seems a lot. I mean,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Studios are looking to make money apparently,
Speaker 1: and that's what this that's what's happening here. They're looking
Speaker 1: to make that coin and they are oh, they're making coin. Well, Apple,
Speaker 1: make a good movie. I'd like to see that happen.
Speaker 1: First again, I'll be critical. Are you optimistic? About the
Speaker 1: final Skywalker. The Rise of sky is the Rise Skywalker,
Speaker 1: The Rise of Skywalker. Not even vaguely is he gonna
Speaker 1: have his hand in this one? He lost the hand
Speaker 1: that one. He is not even alive at this point.
Speaker 1: He's a it's not him. This is like your relation
Speaker 1: the Browns. At this point, you're like put so much
Speaker 1: into it and then these things that begins with childhood
Speaker 1: and the adult version is often there's disenchantment, disillusionment. All right,
Speaker 1: we're falling behind pace here, let's go. It's another another
Speaker 1: draft pick that may invite derision, but it checks a
Speaker 1: lot of my boxes. Midwest grass Field, one of my
Speaker 1: favorite teams, the Washington Redskins at the Green Bay Pack
Speaker 1: and the Redskins I thought last week it's finally an
Speaker 1: encouraging game for what's left of their fan base as
Speaker 1: far as maybe getting can get an offensive nucleus. Darius
Speaker 1: Geiss looked fantastic um as a power runner, Terry McLarin
Speaker 1: making big plays again, and there were three straight tight
Speaker 1: window lasers in a two minute drill from Dwayne Haskins
Speaker 1: where they finally you got this sense, hey, if you
Speaker 1: wanted to say, this guy landed in the wrong place
Speaker 1: because all he does is sit back in eye formation
Speaker 1: and hand the ball to Adrian Peterson. Were Darius Guy, sure,
Speaker 1: but you put him in that spread attack in a
Speaker 1: two minute drill up tempo, he looks like a totally different,
Speaker 1: confident quarterback and I want to see more of that.
Speaker 1: For the first time all year, I thought maybe the
Speaker 1: Redskins are playing their best quarterback because the difference in
Speaker 1: arm strength between Dwayne Haskins and Kyle Allen in that
Speaker 1: game was stark. He's got a great arm I think
Speaker 1: he's had about three plays every week that you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you make too much out of these plays. But
Speaker 1: when you're a fan of a team, if if you're
Speaker 1: a Washington fan, you see those three plays, you get excited,
Speaker 1: But then you also think that he's gonna be in
Speaker 1: a totally different offense next year, and you don't know
Speaker 1: what he's gonna look like. I still think this could
Speaker 1: be a tricky game for Green Bay because they they're
Speaker 1: bad against the run, and this is the team you
Speaker 1: do not want to face when you're bad against the run.
Speaker 1: We said the same thing about Carolina a week ago,
Speaker 1: and you know, Callahan, I mean, if if Brian Florence
Speaker 1: is getting love at three and nine for coach of
Speaker 1: the Year. How about Callahan, He's three and four. Why
Speaker 1: don't we just give every coach? I'm joking. I don't
Speaker 1: really believe that, but he took over No. And five team.
Speaker 1: I would have not a guess that they would have
Speaker 1: three wins at this point, and that that I actually believe.
Speaker 1: Let's say that they keep this game interesting. I could
Speaker 1: just see a being close, kind of kind of like
Speaker 1: Giants Packers was into the fourth quarter. But Haskins fumbling
Speaker 1: three times and throwing four interceptions in this game. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's on the tipe. I was stunned this week. Barnwell, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, to give him another shout out, he wrote
Speaker 1: that the NFC East out of division record is the
Speaker 1: second worst in NFL history. So this is one of
Speaker 1: the worst divisions in NFL history the NFC East right now,
Speaker 1: and the Red Skins are carrying the load. They've won
Speaker 1: a couple of games out of division the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. Uh. Any other thoughts. I like this game
Speaker 1: from Mike Petton. Haskins for his you know upside has
Speaker 1: been sacked eighteen times in his first four starts, and
Speaker 1: if you want a little late seasons as there Za,
Speaker 1: Darius Smith and Preston Smith, this might be the right setting,
Speaker 1: the right game for that to happen. I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: still not sure what this if. This Packers team is good.
Speaker 1: They remind me a little bit of the Patriots, where
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what we have with the Patriots or
Speaker 1: the Packers yet, Bob mcginns and any out. They're just
Speaker 1: the healthiest team in the year and they have good
Speaker 1: turnover margin. But they're not You look at them and
Speaker 1: you I don't put them with the best teams. They're inconsistent.
Speaker 1: On offense, they you can't ever bank on either the
Speaker 1: running game or the passing game guaranteed to work that week.
Speaker 1: And on defense, they don't stop the run and they're
Speaker 1: they have vulnerabilities in their secondary too. So what are
Speaker 1: the out The wood is out in this game, by
Speaker 1: the way, That's what I'm saying. I don't, I don't
Speaker 1: whatever that means. Uh, you know, I'm going I'm going
Speaker 1: with the fighting Callahans, Wait what dr Rainmaker has spoken?
Speaker 1: Justnning game and who knows? Okay, not outright, Okay, Packers
Speaker 1: lose this there's gonna be a total just to keep
Speaker 1: it close. All right, Greg, You're up, I am up,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna take Deshaun Watson facing off against Drew
Speaker 1: Lock and the Broncos. I need an early game, and
Speaker 1: the Texans are the best team left on the board
Speaker 1: that's playing early. I don't think this is going to
Speaker 1: be competitive though, which you know, it takes a little
Speaker 1: shine off it because I don't think Drew Lock, just
Speaker 1: based on that first game, is ready to be part
Speaker 1: of a team that wins against a good team on
Speaker 1: the road. He had a a thirty two yard throw
Speaker 1: to end the first half that was pointless. I don't
Speaker 1: know why they didn't throw a hail mary with his
Speaker 1: big arm, but he just picked up thirty two yards.
Speaker 1: And his other twenty seven passes they gained a hundred
Speaker 1: yards hundred and two yards, three point one yards per attempt.
Speaker 1: You know, they just started blitzing him. Gus Bradley did
Speaker 1: like crazy, and every time they blitzed he just either
Speaker 1: ran or dumped it off for about three yards and
Speaker 1: he just it just doesn't seem like he's ready to
Speaker 1: go play a good Texans I mean, first of the
Speaker 1: NFL game, and he I get it. I'm partly basing
Speaker 1: it on. Yeah, he struggled in training camps, coaching staff
Speaker 1: didn't seem in love with him. He struggled in the preseason.
Speaker 1: And it's just a lot to ask, you know what
Speaker 1: he could use like a beard. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he can grow one. We're talking about this last this
Speaker 1: he have. Does he have the look? Was the guy
Speaker 1: that you could You think I should talk to him,
Speaker 1: just say how how big it's been for me and
Speaker 1: in my life. And the oil just said not even
Speaker 1: take some of your stationary you have with your logo
Speaker 1: on top and then just uh say good luck kid,
Speaker 1: and then just have the bottle of the board. Would
Speaker 1: my logo be just like three three G s. I
Speaker 1: can imagine it. That's good. Does anybody herebody on Twitter
Speaker 1: is now going to make your logo? Does anybody here
Speaker 1: trust the Texans defense the rest of the season, not
Speaker 1: just in a game where they're facing a rookie quarterback,
Speaker 1: but do you trust this when you talk about where
Speaker 1: the Texans are in relation to the Chiefs and Ravens,
Speaker 1: do you trust this defense? No? But they've been a
Speaker 1: pleasant surprise since J. J. Watt has been out there
Speaker 1: twenty seven and waited d v o it. They traded
Speaker 1: for for hard Graves and Conley gave him a little
Speaker 1: bit of depth and they they've made it work more
Speaker 1: than I would have expected. They've actually been better without J. J. Watt,
Speaker 1: which small sample size, but for what you know, just
Speaker 1: in terms of the total defense, they've had better games
Speaker 1: without him, which is bizarre. How about this, The Ravens
Speaker 1: would give them a lot of trouble, but Ravens are
Speaker 1: getting everybody a lot of trouble. Right. But if you
Speaker 1: look at the rest of the a f C playoff picture, Patriots,
Speaker 1: we saw they could throttle them, um, the Steelers, the Bills, Chiefs,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Can they stop the Chiefs in a big game?
Speaker 1: The Chiefs, I think they could play up to their potential,
Speaker 1: They probably cannot. I think they're kind of a matchup
Speaker 1: team with in a perfect world with Romeo Cornell that
Speaker 1: you get J. J. Watt back for the playoffs, which
Speaker 1: is something we haven't mentioned on this show, but Ian
Speaker 1: Rappaport said that he's trending that way with the oction
Speaker 1: of J. J. Are you getting after that injury? We'll
Speaker 1: see they beat the Chiefs. I just you know, this week,
Speaker 1: you're you're counting on skangs old Rich Scangarrello to provide
Speaker 1: a schematic advantage for his young quarterback and they haven't
Speaker 1: shown that they're able to do that. All right, Uh,
Speaker 1: here we go, the trade was made. I move up
Speaker 1: one spot and that works out for me because Titans
Speaker 1: at Raiders is my pick. Yeah, I thought you were
Speaker 1: gonna you were gonna take that right him, Um, I
Speaker 1: will grab it. I needed a late game, and that
Speaker 1: is a B plus game in my mind, and in
Speaker 1: my mind, I believe that the Raiders outscored was it
Speaker 1: seventy to twelve the last two weeks? Are an easy
Speaker 1: team to disregard, and conversely, the Titans are a team
Speaker 1: that would be impossible to disregard based on how they've
Speaker 1: been playing over the last several weeks. Um. And yet,
Speaker 1: why do I have a weird feeling that the Raiders
Speaker 1: are gonna do something here? I don't know, but it's
Speaker 1: just it's nothing, really more than a hunch, because how
Speaker 1: could you look at anything the Raiders did the last
Speaker 1: two weeks? Uh and get excited about him? But I
Speaker 1: will say this, Tennessee, it's traveling across the country. They've
Speaker 1: they've been playing well this season of the last month.
Speaker 1: But you know, do I think they're they're now a superpower?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I can google
Speaker 1: that far. And the Raiders, Yes, they've talked about it
Speaker 1: all season. They are. They are a rock um in
Speaker 1: terms of their home play, their ability to hang with teams,
Speaker 1: to just play at a different level. And for that reason,
Speaker 1: I think everyone's gonna be picking the Titans in this
Speaker 1: game and writing off the Raiders, and I get that,
Speaker 1: but I don't necessarily see that way. I see this
Speaker 1: as a close game. West. I imagine you disagree heartily. No,
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders have been they've been jackling hide
Speaker 1: and they've been the good team at home. Like, what
Speaker 1: are they five and one at home and one in
Speaker 1: five on the road or something. They've been terrible on
Speaker 1: the road, But I don't think you can overlook them
Speaker 1: at home. And the Titans aren't that good where you
Speaker 1: say they're gonna roll in there and just dominate the Raiders.
Speaker 1: I think these are two pretty close teams, and the
Speaker 1: Titans are better on a neutral field, but it wouldn't
Speaker 1: shock me at the Raiders win this game, certainly not.
Speaker 1: I think Tennessee is obviously transformed with Ryan Tannehill. They
Speaker 1: are averaging just a tick under thirty points per game
Speaker 1: with tanne Old during his five and one run with
Speaker 1: the Titans, which is bested by only one team, the Ravens.
Speaker 1: And I always thought that this was a defensive oriented
Speaker 1: team and that was their strength. But Derrick Henry makes
Speaker 1: anything possible, and you know, you can get to Tannehill.
Speaker 1: He was sacked six times last week, But ken can
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Though maybe the Raiders have had some good
Speaker 1: moments with Clellen Ferrell and and in m A x X,
Speaker 1: I like him. I think it's a tough magic. I
Speaker 1: do think you can kind of disregard the Raiders and
Speaker 1: expect them to lose. I mean, the point differential here
Speaker 1: like between these two teams is like a hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty on the year. The Titans are playing well, and
Speaker 1: I think the way to beat the Titans throw the
Speaker 1: ball on him. You know, it's been very tough to
Speaker 1: beat the Titans running this year. They're one of the
Speaker 1: best run defenses in the league, and so you would
Speaker 1: think they'll be able to slow down Josh Jacobs and
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs. Kind of all the Raiders have Derek Carr.
Speaker 1: He's just not finding open receivers because after Hunter Renfrog
Speaker 1: got hurt. I actually think that that was a big factor.
Speaker 1: You know, you, I know you don't have anyone. You
Speaker 1: have Tyrone Williams, and that's it. You're you trade for
Speaker 1: Za Jones, one of the biggest wide receiver busts in
Speaker 1: the last few years, and you're playing him sixty snaps
Speaker 1: a game with no production. You've got no one to
Speaker 1: throw to other than waller. Derek Carrier's garbage time touchdown
Speaker 1: last week was the first for the Raiders in seven plays.
Speaker 1: That's two games where they had a seven minute field
Speaker 1: goal drive down thirty four nothing that that was the
Speaker 1: moment I was like, this team, I don't want to
Speaker 1: watch him anymore, all right. I think I said the
Speaker 1: Titans should be expected to come in and throw all
Speaker 1: the Raiders, and I don't like that. Josh. You find
Speaker 1: out that Josh Jacobs has been playing with a fractured shoulder.
Speaker 1: Yes he's tough, but you're mentioning like the you know,
Speaker 1: in general, if you're a shoulder injury with a running back,
Speaker 1: that's about the worst kind of They've had some close games,
Speaker 1: but Tannehills Titans are five and one. The Titans things
Speaker 1: can change in a hurry, though, real quick. They have
Speaker 1: the toughest schedule in the league on strength of schedule.
Speaker 1: After this week after the Raiders, they home at Houston
Speaker 1: home Saints at Houston. So you gotta win this. You
Speaker 1: gotta win this game. And the Raiders, it goes without
Speaker 1: saying that there's a dirt knap game for them because
Speaker 1: even if if they lost this game, even if they
Speaker 1: want out that the Titans, who are going to go
Speaker 1: nine and seven, we know that they would have the
Speaker 1: tiebreaker at nine and seven. So it's almost it's almost
Speaker 1: a double dirt that they're not the Mariota Titans anymore.
Speaker 1: They could I know, I get that they could do
Speaker 1: a tenancy. They could do it. It's kind of take
Speaker 1: that and I think the way things are looking, but
Speaker 1: you know what, I I just feel it. It's in
Speaker 1: my bones. I'm locking up the Raiders silver and black.
Speaker 1: It is not a small thing that it is their
Speaker 1: second to last home game ever in Oakland, and I'm
Speaker 1: locking it up for you, Mark because I want you
Speaker 1: to go to Oakland with a lot on the line.
Speaker 1: That's what you're you're you said you were having um
Speaker 1: writer's block for no guarantee. You're writing about the Raiders
Speaker 1: final season or final games in Oakland. Yes, but there's
Speaker 1: a two part thing. The first is a multi voiced
Speaker 1: like X Raiders type look back at the team and
Speaker 1: the experience with Oakland. I love part so no, I
Speaker 1: think I would love that black last game in Oakland
Speaker 1: to have meaning. That's not too much to ask. It's
Speaker 1: a special relations I I feel like if you had to,
Speaker 1: if you were if you had to choose one team
Speaker 1: to tell the entire story of the NFL, it would
Speaker 1: be the Oakland Raiders. To me, they are they are
Speaker 1: kind of The Packers would be the other one that
Speaker 1: comes to mind. But to me, they've just encompassed so much,
Speaker 1: and that I I don't know. I love the more
Speaker 1: you dig in, it's like it becomes a relationship. It's
Speaker 1: pretty pretty in depth. I had a bunch of weird
Speaker 1: dreams last night. Whenever I fall asleep on my couch
Speaker 1: in my living room, which I try not to do,
Speaker 1: but it happens sometimes I have weird dreams. One dream,
Speaker 1: the one that caused me to get up out of
Speaker 1: off the couch and going to bed. Um was my
Speaker 1: friend Bob and I were driving down a Los Angeles
Speaker 1: freeway and he's like, oh, you're getting onto the one
Speaker 1: ten and I said yeah, yeah, and then I lost
Speaker 1: my bearings and then the last thing I heard was
Speaker 1: underwater and then I shot up out of the couch. Nightmare.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we've been told by NFL people
Speaker 1: that you're not supposed to talk about me means including
Speaker 1: that the other one, and this is really weird. Mark Um, Okay,
Speaker 1: I was in the newsroom. Now I'm I'm slumbering in
Speaker 1: my bed next to my wife. Everything's fine. The dream
Speaker 1: is you turn in and turned in the copy of
Speaker 1: this long form. I am not making this up. And
Speaker 1: Ali was like, man, that was really good, dude, that
Speaker 1: was really good. That was the whole dream. It was
Speaker 1: whatever it was, it was a snippet of a dreams
Speaker 1: pleasant than the than the underwater one. Well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I had this offset to put more pressure on you,
Speaker 1: but that that happened is encouraging. It's had a bizarre
Speaker 1: dream where you woke up and like you cannot of
Speaker 1: a of a yellow snake, climbing up my arm and
Speaker 1: licking my arm. But it was a nice snake, but
Speaker 1: it was still very odd. So this is a much
Speaker 1: more positive dream. Why am I telling you that that
Speaker 1: happened to me? Then you woke up and Simone was
Speaker 1: licking your arm? Not true? Not true, and probably not.
Speaker 1: How was that in this show? Yes, not the case. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I locked up the Raiders. Mark, you're picking in my spot. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at these late games. I really have only
Speaker 1: one option here and I do not want to go
Speaker 1: deal with the Chargers again, and that was what I
Speaker 1: was hoping to avoid. They tested my patients last week
Speaker 1: with the way that they coached that entire game. It's
Speaker 1: hard to watch Philip Rivers slowly dissemble into a non
Speaker 1: quarterback drive by drive. But the upside here is you
Speaker 1: do get Gardner Minshew, which I'm excited about. What I
Speaker 1: don't like, though, is that you know it's going to
Speaker 1: be and there's some Gardener Minshew backlash at times in
Speaker 1: this room. He's in a terrible environment right now to succeed.
Speaker 1: I just don't like anything that the Jaguars are doing.
Speaker 1: They can't run the ball, they can't stop the run. Obviously,
Speaker 1: their defense is a hot mess. Greg. I think you
Speaker 1: mentioned them as the thirties second best team in football
Speaker 1: right now. Best is the word. I think you're right
Speaker 1: about that with the way they played over the last month.
Speaker 1: So this is one of those games which terrible four
Speaker 1: and eight team is gonna work its way out of
Speaker 1: what has been a terrible past few months. I mean
Speaker 1: the Chargers that coach both coaching staffs could be gone
Speaker 1: after this season. Number one. I would say that's an
Speaker 1: automatic for Doug Maron and maybe even higher up with
Speaker 1: the GM and Tom Coughlin for the Chargers. What's your argument?
Speaker 1: All of their losses, all eight losses have come by
Speaker 1: one score, so you're not getting blown out, but you're
Speaker 1: not finding a way to win those games either, And
Speaker 1: that's very Chargers esque. But they have not solved any
Speaker 1: of those issues. They've only become more magnetized. To listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put on rivers or anything, but I
Speaker 1: feel like this has been going on forever and ever,
Speaker 1: and last year was the opposite which slipped under the radar.
Speaker 1: They were almost unbeaten in one score games and they
Speaker 1: went twelve and four, and I thought I had one
Speaker 1: of the best coach playoff wins against the Ravens two
Speaker 1: and so that's what you're you know, if you're Anthony Lynn,
Speaker 1: You're you're pointing to the last year, and you're pointing
Speaker 1: that they haven't had their whole team together from each
Speaker 1: of the year. They are healthier than they've been all year.
Speaker 1: They have both their starting safeties, both their starting tackles.
Speaker 1: Said they should win. This game didn't really register with
Speaker 1: me last week. But I think we'd be talking about
Speaker 1: a quarterback benching if not for DeVante Bookers roughing the
Speaker 1: punter penalty that saved Rivers from going three and out.
Speaker 1: I mean, it saved him. And if you watch that game,
Speaker 1: and this goes back a few weeks now, it's it's
Speaker 1: a little troublesome that almost all the Chargers big plays
Speaker 1: are just Rivers finding wide open receivers. That's the only
Speaker 1: time they really moved the ball is when the receivers
Speaker 1: get wide open. I don't know what that says about
Speaker 1: his arm strength these days. All right, let us move on.
Speaker 1: I now pick again, and I will that's a snake,
Speaker 1: not a traditional snake either, because Mark was in between.
Speaker 1: But that's all right, let's cool. I mean you you've
Speaker 1: orchestrated this scenario. It was either that or lick Mark's arms.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, grabbed Dolphins Jets. Good job, just me being selfless.
Speaker 1: And this is this is the sign of two things
Speaker 1: to the sign of two things. One that it's another
Speaker 1: lost season for the Jets and the Dolphins, and two
Speaker 1: that we're winding down the season when Jeff Greenholtz, who
Speaker 1: runs the NFL media research, grew up and they do
Speaker 1: a great job. When every um entry on the pages
Speaker 1: here it is, by the way, if you're watching on YouTube,
Speaker 1: this is just great stuff. Week after week. Um, they
Speaker 1: have a storyline section on the first page, and usually
Speaker 1: there's three storylines, uh, the Greenholtz Gang. One storyline, battle
Speaker 1: of a f C East teams looking to end twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen on a positive note. Well, it's ultimately like they're
Speaker 1: they're ultimately making this for people that are on television
Speaker 1: and they know no one is talking about this game
Speaker 1: and not a lot of air time. Al right, so
Speaker 1: I won't give it a lot of airtime either here, um,
Speaker 1: other than to tell you that since week nine, both
Speaker 1: these teams have won three and three of five. But
Speaker 1: most people aren't looking at these teams the same way
Speaker 1: because the nature of the Jets lost last week against Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: which I don't know if I mentioned it on Sunday,
Speaker 1: but they didn't reach the red zone against an O
Speaker 1: and eleven team. Adam Gates has found ways even even
Speaker 1: with them playing better. Too, when it goes bad, it
Speaker 1: goes really bad. And yet I think they'll win because
Speaker 1: for all the progress the Dolphins have made on offense
Speaker 1: in the passing game, there's been no progress with their defense.
Speaker 1: They're probably they would still in my choice as the
Speaker 1: worst defense in the league. So it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it should be an afternoon for Sammy d to get right.
Speaker 1: I hope so Jamal Jamal Adams more most likely. Also
Speaker 1: so um you would think Ryan Fitzpatrick, who has been
Speaker 1: fun to watch this year as he usually is, will
Speaker 1: do some damage. I see this game, it's at the
Speaker 1: metal ends. The Dolphins already have a win over the Jets.
Speaker 1: I think the Jets can win this game. But it's
Speaker 1: I'd say one thing. We talked about a lot of
Speaker 1: revenge games, and to me, it's like, oh, a team, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, part of ways with you after you made
Speaker 1: millions of dollar. I don't view that as necessarily the
Speaker 1: construct of human revenge in most cases. But DeVante Parker
Speaker 1: is a little bit different because the Adam Gaze Davante
Speaker 1: Parker relationship was about as bad as it gets. He
Speaker 1: was trade bait. No one wanted him to you know,
Speaker 1: There's all these things going on, and he's played really
Speaker 1: well of late, and so this is one that I
Speaker 1: do buy into as a revenge factor. Fitzpatrick said he
Speaker 1: thinks he's playing better now than he's ever been. His
Speaker 1: confidence that is at an all time high, and it's
Speaker 1: odd that it's when he's surrounded by the worst talent
Speaker 1: of his career. It's also I don't want to see
Speaker 1: anybody copy what the Dolphins front office did, but I
Speaker 1: do want to see teams that are out of it
Speaker 1: and have no chance to start to copy how their
Speaker 1: coaching staff is and how their quarterback is on third
Speaker 1: and long, throwing at fifty yards downfield, not worrying about
Speaker 1: interceptions on all four downs, pulling out all the stops
Speaker 1: and going for it and throwing deep and seeing what happens.
Speaker 1: What do you have to lose? It's an entertaining brand
Speaker 1: of football. I kind of like watching the Dolphins at
Speaker 1: this point when they have nothing to lose, Well, they
Speaker 1: couldn't run for five yards against the four of us
Speaker 1: leaning into it, He's right, I'm sure. I just went
Speaker 1: to check out nfl dot coms QB index. To me,
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick should be in the top fifteen this year. Who
Speaker 1: I think he's playing outstanding? Is that a nice year?
Speaker 1: His his his counting numbers aren't great, which I imagine
Speaker 1: is playing into why he's not high, but he keeps
Speaker 1: them in every game. And you know, I know it
Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but it's like Josh Allen's thirteen and Derek
Speaker 1: Carr's fourteen. To me, Ryan Fitzpatrick has outplayed those two
Speaker 1: guys this year. And when he plays like he did
Speaker 1: um on Sunday, you know, not making mistakes, it it
Speaker 1: did remind me of that fits Magic season. When he
Speaker 1: gets hot. He's just such a fun guy to watch
Speaker 1: and he's got the moxie and or last year, the
Speaker 1: first month with the Buccaneers and even with this Dolphins team,
Speaker 1: there's bound to be recreshing to the mean when you're
Speaker 1: throwing caution to the wind every time you drop back.
Speaker 1: Is DeVante Parker before we move on, is he unique
Speaker 1: in recent NFL history is a first round pick that
Speaker 1: broke out in his fifth year. Yea is at a breakdown? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well he is. But it's also like if you could
Speaker 1: if you're a wide receiver and you draw up a contract, yere,
Speaker 1: you want Ryan Fitzpatrick or Jamis Winston throwing you the
Speaker 1: ball because it doesn't matter if you're covered or not.
Speaker 1: They're just throwing it deep and allowing you to make
Speaker 1: a play. So it's sort of outside normal football and
Speaker 1: it's allowing you to pull the showcase of your skills. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: he's got great catch skills at the point of the catch.
Speaker 1: I wonder if his route running is up to pall
Speaker 1: He might be a free agent bust as well. The
Speaker 1: Dolphins smartly signed him to it. He already was a
Speaker 1: free agent. They signed him to a very cheap two
Speaker 1: year contract, so he will not be a freedom He'll
Speaker 1: be on that team at a very low price of
Speaker 1: like six million dollars for a productive player. For the record,
Speaker 1: he's projected right now touchdowns. Um, all right, let's move
Speaker 1: on Mark. All right, Well, I'm gonna take Bengals at
Speaker 1: Brown's obviously, and uh, this to me, if the Browns
Speaker 1: were still allowed. It is a selfless move, much to
Speaker 1: mirroring yours. Uh, it's this would be trap game material
Speaker 1: if the Browns actually were involved in something that a
Speaker 1: trap would trap them at this point because I could
Speaker 1: tell I number one, I'm I guarantee, I guarantee the
Speaker 1: Browns and Bengals will split this season. So either they're
Speaker 1: gonna lose to Cincinnati this time or in week seventeen.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the atmosphere in Cleveland and the heat
Speaker 1: around Freddie Kitchens that the Browns were to lose this
Speaker 1: game to Cincinnati. I know what had It helps that
Speaker 1: they aren't winless after beating the Jets, but I could
Speaker 1: totally see it. The one the one thing, though, if
Speaker 1: you're the one the good for all the negativity around
Speaker 1: the Browns, the same things have been good kind of
Speaker 1: week after week over the past month, and it's been tumultuous.
Speaker 1: But Nick Chubb, Jarvis Landry is having an absolutely insane season.
Speaker 1: He made a toe tapping catch last week that it's
Speaker 1: up there with the best catches you'll see all season.
Speaker 1: And for all the you know, for Odell Beckham is
Speaker 1: totally vanished, Jarvis Landry has not, and I do believe
Speaker 1: that they can score points and put Cincinnati in a
Speaker 1: bad place here, But you don't see any continuity with
Speaker 1: their offense from one quarter to the next. They went
Speaker 1: completely to sleep against Pittsburgh, and I could see it
Speaker 1: happening again. The Bengals defense has not been has not
Speaker 1: been a problem in the past few weeks. No, the
Speaker 1: defensive line is playing really well, Dune Lap. I think
Speaker 1: guy player of the week Gino Atkins is playing fine,
Speaker 1: and Sam Hubbard's playing really well. The way Dalton played
Speaker 1: last week, where he feels he's no longer the culprit
Speaker 1: there like he was early in the season. Nobody's pointing
Speaker 1: the finger at him. Everybody knows they're playing their best
Speaker 1: quarterback now. Uh I. Just the way the Bengals have
Speaker 1: operated over the past thirty years, it would not surprise
Speaker 1: me if they go back in on any Dalton next
Speaker 1: year in draft Chase Young. It just would not surprise
Speaker 1: me to see Andy Dalton under center for this team
Speaker 1: next year. I uh, I think it's a tough spot.
Speaker 1: I the new the new red rifle, red rifle two
Speaker 1: point oh playing free, playing aggressive, Their defense is playing better.
Speaker 1: I picked the Bengals to win this game, and I
Speaker 1: just don't think it'd be that. I don't think it'd
Speaker 1: be that shot sucking. If it's shocking to me, I
Speaker 1: don't think you want to play the Bengals right now.
Speaker 1: The I think Nick Job could have a huge game here.
Speaker 1: You know, they the Jets. They did a terrible job
Speaker 1: last week with I think they had seven carries in
Speaker 1: the first half and then the game got a head handed. Well,
Speaker 1: that's why I love you. On Bell was rightfully annoyed.
Speaker 1: I think by the way he was used right. But
Speaker 1: running up the middle of the Bengals are not that bad.
Speaker 1: But running if you can get around the edge on them,
Speaker 1: they average teams are averaging over seven yards of carry
Speaker 1: when they run to the outside, I would imagine. I
Speaker 1: think I don't trust this Cleveland coaching staff um at all,
Speaker 1: but that but that's a pretty that seems like a
Speaker 1: no brainer that they're going to pound the rock, and
Speaker 1: especially with Baker Mayfield banged up. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: the Browns win, but who knows what I mean, Mix
Speaker 1: is playing pretty great throwing this out there. I don't
Speaker 1: really trust the Bengals coaching staff either. You're not running
Speaker 1: into a Sean Payton esque scenario here, but I mean
Speaker 1: just personnelity. I don't either, but it shocked me what
Speaker 1: huge favorites the Bengals. The Browns are in this game
Speaker 1: like Monster and I just checked, uh, you know with
Speaker 1: with Erica and Dr Rainmaker might not be on the board,
Speaker 1: but Dr Rainmaker isn't about you know, the sound effects
Speaker 1: or anything. I'm just feeling the flow right now. I
Speaker 1: haven't felt like anything like this all year. I think
Speaker 1: the Begels are gonna do it drop. You know, I
Speaker 1: got to Hollywood. It got to Hollywood, and now we're
Speaker 1: bringing it back tood original basics. But by the way,
Speaker 1: it means that the Browns will cover with these based
Speaker 1: on Xty exactly. Now I'm feeling good about this. Browns
Speaker 1: came Um all right, let us move on. Picking next
Speaker 1: is Greg I will take the Panthers Falcons in the
Speaker 1: early window. Knocked that game out. Two teams not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: In embarrassment for these two teams that they're not even
Speaker 1: in the NFC South race in a season that Teddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater started five games for the Saints. They should be
Speaker 1: ashamed of themselves. And I guess people are losing their jobs.
Speaker 1: So I shouldn't bury him too hard. They're getting too late.
Speaker 1: You did it. They're getting punished. Falcons are a little healthier.
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper and Julio Jones looks like they will both
Speaker 1: be back for this game, which is pretty significant. Has
Speaker 1: anyone ever been more of a slam dunk to get
Speaker 1: fired and immediately rehired than Ron Rivera? I I do
Speaker 1: not remember a head coach, and there's a credit to
Speaker 1: the man. I don't remember a head coach that's ever
Speaker 1: had this much praise thrown upon him after being fired
Speaker 1: as Ron Rivera. And it just tells you how well
Speaker 1: respected he is as a man inside and outside that building.
Speaker 1: And given his track record, the fact that he's uh,
Speaker 1: he's two Coach of the Year awards, the fact that
Speaker 1: the Panthers have been consistently competitive for the most part
Speaker 1: in his nine years, the fact that he went to
Speaker 1: Super Ball. He's a slam dunk higher for a team, Uh,
Speaker 1: come January. I mean maybe Jimmy Johnson, but you gotta
Speaker 1: go back. There's these cases are few and far between.
Speaker 1: I'm totally with you. I think teams are already looking
Speaker 1: at their and battled coaches thinking what do we need
Speaker 1: to do to make sure we're in this conversation for
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera right now versus clinging to our eating away coaching.
Speaker 1: I I am with that, and I feel like I've
Speaker 1: always been really pro Ron Rivera, but it at least
Speaker 1: should be pointed out. He coached nine seasons and they
Speaker 1: had a winning record, and three of them, I mean
Speaker 1: they the Panthers fans I feel like feel a little
Speaker 1: differently about that is a fact that, as a factual statement,
Speaker 1: he won Coach of the Year and two of them
Speaker 1: he won a division with a losing record. Once they
Speaker 1: had some mainten aids painting it. Painting it is. He
Speaker 1: had the tenth best record in the league during the
Speaker 1: time he was in Carol Best Wheat, I think exactly.
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly where he is, like the tenth
Speaker 1: best and and worth that pretty good. A lot of
Speaker 1: owners would sign up fast experience, absolutely, but they weren't
Speaker 1: like a consistent winner, like let's you know, let's compare
Speaker 1: to guys like Andy Reid or Sean Payton who have
Speaker 1: won less Coach of the Year. It's like, it's it's
Speaker 1: not at that level. Your theory, he's a defensive coach
Speaker 1: and that is less reliable from year to year, should
Speaker 1: be said. He also took over two and fourteen, absolutely
Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback. Uh, six and ten, seven or nine,
Speaker 1: twelve and four, seven, eight and one, fifteen and one,
Speaker 1: six and ten, eleven and five, seven and nine. But
Speaker 1: he didn't start winning until he had that epiphany. So
Speaker 1: you gotta give him a few year out there before
Speaker 1: he started, you know, becoming riverboat. He also you know,
Speaker 1: he had four playoff appearances in five years, uh in Carolina,
Speaker 1: which was I believe they have four in their previous
Speaker 1: sixteen years combined. Um, okay, anything else on that correct?
Speaker 1: Let us Kyle Allen seeing ghost hearing footsteps fleet in
Speaker 1: the pocket too early. It was the first time all
Speaker 1: year where I thought maybe they ought to give Will
Speaker 1: Greer a look. That's maybe he will week seventeen, something
Speaker 1: like that. All right, West Europe, Uh, We're gonna take
Speaker 1: colts at Buccaneers. I love these Buccaneers right now. Like
Speaker 1: that's a great pick up for you West this late
Speaker 1: in the draft. Oh yeah, I'm loving my draft so far.
Speaker 1: Not bad for the midground. Yes, I said a month ago,
Speaker 1: I'm all in on the Buccaneers and they have been
Speaker 1: one of the best teams in football over that stretch.
Speaker 1: They are, I believe three and one in that stretch.
Speaker 1: The defense is just coming alive. Devin hy just got
Speaker 1: named NFC Rookie of the Month, and he's a guy
Speaker 1: who I think he's gonna over pursue at times. He's
Speaker 1: gonna miss some plays, but he's also playing with an
Speaker 1: aggressiveness and a confidence and a speed where he's running
Speaker 1: through ball carriers. He's getting to the ball. Uh, he's
Speaker 1: getting to open spaces where the ball is and letting
Speaker 1: his instincts shine through. He's he looks like an old
Speaker 1: school middle linebacker to me, where he's just sideline to sideline,
Speaker 1: running through people. And I love watching him play. JPP
Speaker 1: playing with his hair on fire. Shack Barrett, Let's let's
Speaker 1: use a different Okay, that's it's better than his hand
Speaker 1: on fire. All right, That's all right. That's all I
Speaker 1: have to say about the Bucks. That front seven is parocious.
Speaker 1: Right next sideswiped. That was like a shack Therett, sack
Speaker 1: right there. That was business, your classic berserker team. When
Speaker 1: we talk about the definition of a relatively you know,
Speaker 1: it's annoying that the record is what it is, because
Speaker 1: if they had been playing this way the entire year,
Speaker 1: you could flip flop that record potential. Remember the team
Speaker 1: we saw in London. I mean that's part of the problem.
Speaker 1: They're just so inconsistent. And I want to throw one
Speaker 1: thing here. Yes, it makes a lot of sense that
Speaker 1: the Bucks are berserker team in the spot and they
Speaker 1: would put the Colts to sleep. But this is a
Speaker 1: late season cornered animal game, uh for the Colts, who
Speaker 1: you know, need to win this game to stay in
Speaker 1: the mix. Basically, do you trust Jamis Winston against the
Speaker 1: cornered animal team? I don't know. If I do that,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I could see it never totally cornered
Speaker 1: that corner animals playing with two broken legs and a
Speaker 1: sore hip. It's beat up. It might get Marlon mac
Speaker 1: back this week. I can't tell when I watch this
Speaker 1: Bucks team whether I think Bruce, Arians and Bowls have
Speaker 1: done a good job of the year for developing. They
Speaker 1: clearly have some talent and they're letting that talent come
Speaker 1: to the four, or if they've not done a good
Speaker 1: job because they're five and seven, you know they probably
Speaker 1: should be better with all the all these good places.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you and I the Colts. To me, though,
Speaker 1: just I feel like we're waving there are this ship
Speaker 1: on the water getting far farther into the distance. Very
Speaker 1: valiant coaching effort by Frank Reich in the whole situation
Speaker 1: they were put in. But this does not feel like
Speaker 1: a playoff team to me. Right. Bus have been very
Speaker 1: good coming out of the by their season basically ended
Speaker 1: when they lost right at the buzzer against the Titans
Speaker 1: and the Seahawks in a row and games they played
Speaker 1: pretty well and they've kept playing well. That was it,
Speaker 1: by the way, No, Adam vine Terry like, we signed
Speaker 1: Chase McLaughlin. I wonder if we see it again. I mean,
Speaker 1: things could change Andrews. They claimed McLaughlin and the Bills
Speaker 1: and Patriots also put in. They blocked us from they
Speaker 1: McGlocklin us blocked us out. You know, Kai or Chase.
Speaker 1: I'm going with Kay. I'm bringing him in the building.
Speaker 1: But you know that's just me. Wait, we're taping this Thursday.
Speaker 1: This this bit turned in from you thinking Kai is
Speaker 1: not that great of a guy to you being his
Speaker 1: biggest champions, just that he needs it for the it.
Speaker 1: He needs to keep this going Seahawks corner bit and
Speaker 1: then we'll get to that in a moment. Uh we Uh.
Speaker 1: It's Thursday afternoon. It's it's past four o'clock on the
Speaker 1: East coast. I mean the sun is going down in
Speaker 1: Fox Bro it's there. The Patriots still don't have a
Speaker 1: kicker on their team. I know, Belichick it. It would
Speaker 1: be very Belichick. Belichick in too, like enter an entire
Speaker 1: game without a kicker, just be like, no, we're just
Speaker 1: doing things differently. But it feels like you're going on
Speaker 1: the website. There's only seven coaches. What are we gonna do?
Speaker 1: They'll probably sign the kicker. Sea with no kicker. At
Speaker 1: some point, I'm gonna rethink that what is happening. Maybe
Speaker 1: not against the Chiefs, that's strategy. Um well, I see
Speaker 1: my law. I'm changing my lack and it's coming up soon. Okay, Wow,
Speaker 1: I know, of course you want me to do because
Speaker 1: of the kicker. Don't listen to the show has been
Speaker 1: going on here in the first place. You're the champion.
Speaker 1: Don't listen to the guy. He's never one. Don't think
Speaker 1: the kee. I just think that the Chiefs are I
Speaker 1: don't like that situation all right, because I'm rethinking it. Okay, West,
Speaker 1: this game, I liked it because when you know, of course,
Speaker 1: if I could have bet the house on this, Tom
Speaker 1: Brennaman and Chris Spielman will be assigned to Detroit Lions
Speaker 1: at Minnesota Vikings. Do you want to farm this out
Speaker 1: to see if we want let's get Burgos. Look, I
Speaker 1: don't want to watch the Lions right now. I think
Speaker 1: that David Blow is the biggest fool's gold in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He's like a freneticable who has to load up to
Speaker 1: get rid of the ball, and he's thrown into huge
Speaker 1: windows last week. I don't know. I mean, no one's
Speaker 1: painting him out to be people paint yeah, absolutely aboard
Speaker 1: Just Twitter was going wild like David Blow something, you
Speaker 1: know what? Who need to speak for the blowhards, the blowhards.
Speaker 1: Here's what happened. That could have been one of the
Speaker 1: worst Thanksgiving matchups ever. He made it fun and you know,
Speaker 1: Kenny what a hundred and thirty eight yards and a
Speaker 1: touchdown at half And it was because Blow was just
Speaker 1: doing little Jason Campbell is, you know, checkdowns the whole time.
Speaker 1: He took some shots and so I kind of like
Speaker 1: that he played a good head up game. He he
Speaker 1: knew when to take no mistakes. So if you can
Speaker 1: do that again, I mean, you're right by the way
Speaker 1: you got the Blowhards and blow Hard newsletter will be
Speaker 1: in process in in the additions will be rolling out
Speaker 1: until I don't care what. It doesn't matter what I mean,
Speaker 1: what a what a uh? You know combination though you
Speaker 1: got the blowhards being covered by Thom, You're right, it's
Speaker 1: it's thomb and I mean Thom's a blow hard. If
Speaker 1: I ever heard and West, I gotta say it. Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins never defeated David blow I gotta say it, Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins facts. I gotta say. Vikings I think should be
Speaker 1: a little worried. I know it's only been a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, but their defense does not look good. They struggled,
Speaker 1: They were lucky to win that game against the Broncos.
Speaker 1: Then they had their by and then they came out
Speaker 1: and the defense looked pretty bad on Monday night. I
Speaker 1: don't know about the Vike. They haven't exit if a
Speaker 1: Rhodes issue. It was interesting that at the Athletic noted
Speaker 1: when he slammed his helmet down in that last game
Speaker 1: that he had shouted words at Mike Zimmer, So you know,
Speaker 1: Zimmers actually stood up for him over the course of
Speaker 1: this year and when a lot of people have called
Speaker 1: for his benching. Would you sit Dalvin Cook in this
Speaker 1: game or at least consider it? I would love him healthy.
Speaker 1: I would look at a guy like James Conner as
Speaker 1: an example why you would consider it. Who By the way,
Speaker 1: it was just the downs out this week as we
Speaker 1: were taping this podcast. Dalvin Cook, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: says he is going to play. Connor said about a
Speaker 1: month ago, oh, I'm playing the week after my shoulder injury.
Speaker 1: He reinjured it immediately and he hasn't been on the
Speaker 1: field since. I'd be concerned, especially the Vikings. Barring a
Speaker 1: free fall, They're probably not gonna get one of the
Speaker 1: top two seeds, but they could probably get the wild
Speaker 1: card if they get the tenor of eleven wins. I'd
Speaker 1: be a little bit careful with Cook. If you can
Speaker 1: steal a win without him, this would be it, right.
Speaker 1: I trust whatever the medical people tell the coaching stands
Speaker 1: before trust the James Conner's medical staff. Poor guy, Poor
Speaker 1: guy Adam feeling. I don't think that wasn't there you're
Speaker 1: twisting No, I'm not twisting it that I tried to
Speaker 1: get in my original argument, which was just saying that,
Speaker 1: like you know that they should sit out the bye week,
Speaker 1: that was No, it's just one of those things to consider.
Speaker 1: Even if the medical staff's like, yeah, yeah, he'll be
Speaker 1: all right, I think maybe say let's wait until it's
Speaker 1: like I think he'll be all right. They need him.
Speaker 1: They're a lot more limited. The Lions have been frisky.
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll be frisky in this one. But
Speaker 1: the Lions have kept the games close. They were down
Speaker 1: to the wire against the Cowboys, down to wire against
Speaker 1: the Bears. It's not like you with the backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: They've been a total tire. Every game is close. There
Speaker 1: are shows, I believe, even our NFL network um pregame
Speaker 1: show on Sundays, which they now do locks by the way,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, um yeah, but they have
Speaker 1: like Michael Irvin locking up the Bengals. Well that's exactly yes,
Speaker 1: this is going to be a hillacious ass whooping. And
Speaker 1: if we did locks and sometimes Greg you kind of
Speaker 1: get on us as a group that we stink it locks,
Speaker 1: but we do it with integrity. They're always gonna be
Speaker 1: games that are you know, games that should be closed.
Speaker 1: We're exactly how you would. But my point is most
Speaker 1: people do quote unquote locks lock up garbage like this
Speaker 1: because you know the Vikings are gonna win by thirty
Speaker 1: five points in this game potentially. Yeah, I'll lock this up.
Speaker 1: Oh that's brave. I can't disagree with anything you're saying here. No,
Speaker 1: he's not locking, and I would love to lock it up.
Speaker 1: But the mirror. The mirror would shatter if I had
Speaker 1: attempted to test its way over that test too. Yes,
Speaker 1: all right, let's move to Sunday Night Football. Uh the
Speaker 1: Seahawks tennant too, coming off that huge win UM on
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football that move them into the lead in
Speaker 1: the NFC West. They beat the Vikings, of course, Uh
Speaker 1: so they are now tied there, tied to the Niners,
Speaker 1: but they have the they've played once in Seattle has
Speaker 1: that win, so they not only UM are tied in
Speaker 1: the NFC West, they also now have the tie breakers,
Speaker 1: so they're number two seed in the NFC. Now they
Speaker 1: go to the Rams, who were coming off that game.
Speaker 1: We talked about it on Tuesday in our show about
Speaker 1: teams that changed the way we felt about them, how
Speaker 1: their offense got hot, and is that the sign of
Speaker 1: something a shift in what's happened. Well, we're gonna find out.
Speaker 1: There is a great test for both teams there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think one of the traps we all fall into
Speaker 1: is judging a team based on what they did against
Speaker 1: inferior competition. And maybe I'm falling into that trap because
Speaker 1: I fell back. I wouldn't say in love with the Rams,
Speaker 1: but I'm starting to trust them where I I haven't
Speaker 1: liked them all year. I haven't felt like their offense
Speaker 1: was clicking all year, and last week they clicked against
Speaker 1: the Cardinals who have a All Pro and Chandler Jones
Speaker 1: but not much else in the secondary behind him. So
Speaker 1: what what will they do against the Seahawks defensive line
Speaker 1: that has been playing the best ball of their sea
Speaker 1: go ahead. I was just gonna say that they had
Speaker 1: a history, have a history of scoring points on this
Speaker 1: Seahawks team, and so that makes me feel more confident
Speaker 1: that the Rams can keep it going offensively, not just
Speaker 1: in the first game, which if Greg's airline hits a
Speaker 1: kick he usually hits. This division race looks different in
Speaker 1: the Rams are feeling a lot better. But last year
Speaker 1: when both of these games were shootouts where they even
Speaker 1: the Seahawks had a pretty good defense last year, and
Speaker 1: the Rams put up a ton of points on them
Speaker 1: both times, and so I expect another shootout in this one.
Speaker 1: I am locking up the Seahawks in this I it's
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm really glad the Rams did what
Speaker 1: they did last week because it makes this game about
Speaker 1: ten times more intriguing than it had. They late, you know,
Speaker 1: one thirteen to ten with all the continuation of the
Speaker 1: problems with golf, but the offensive line isn't fixed and
Speaker 1: that's gonna haunt them, I think from now through the
Speaker 1: end of the year no matter what. I just don't
Speaker 1: see them as a playoff team. Seattle to me, uh
Speaker 1: is about as mentally tough as you can get. I
Speaker 1: don't care if you're in s all, you're on the road.
Speaker 1: They find a way. We talked about it on on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: They any whatever is happening at halftime, they find a
Speaker 1: way to finish games every single week. They're running the
Speaker 1: ball really well, and their defensive front I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna give golf trouble in this I'm predicting Girl's first
Speaker 1: rushing game of the season. There is something that like
Speaker 1: analytics can't you know, there is something to the seahawk
Speaker 1: seen you just it's like impossible to measure. I think
Speaker 1: like the early Patriots teams especially had it, Like the
Speaker 1: Oh three teams, It's like they can be put in
Speaker 1: any situation and you don't know which part of the
Speaker 1: their tough team to get a feel for because you
Speaker 1: don't know which part of the team is going to
Speaker 1: step up. And it given me last week it was
Speaker 1: like their run blocking was great and their pass rush
Speaker 1: even without Jadevi and Clowney was was really good. Out
Speaker 1: of ore which have been weaknesses, and every week it's
Speaker 1: like they some part of the team finds a way.
Speaker 1: It's a great sign, like they just have something about them.
Speaker 1: It's very hard to put your finger on. That takes
Speaker 1: me back like five years ago when Richard Sherman said,
Speaker 1: I think it was after was it after that negative
Speaker 1: twelve degree game against the Vikings in the playoffs where
Speaker 1: he called Russell Wilson, what was it? A mental genius?
Speaker 1: Something like he just never gets down he never thinks
Speaker 1: they're out of a game, and that the whole team
Speaker 1: feeds on me. I know he gets ripped by sportswriters
Speaker 1: and fans for you know what, like the Mike him
Speaker 1: up on Monday Football, and he's very much athletes speak.
Speaker 1: But the disconnect is that for a lot of people
Speaker 1: that have just grown up playing football that whole time,
Speaker 1: like that connects with a lot of his teammates. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it's everyone, but let's check that out. They
Speaker 1: buy into him though. They buy into him, clear heart,
Speaker 1: clear mind, clear eyes. Let's go to work at one
Speaker 1: point of time. Lock dude, let's go do this thing together.
Speaker 1: Whatever it takes, great language. His job is not to
Speaker 1: be I mean Mr cynical and you know Mr snarky.
Speaker 1: His job is to lead the team. I think what
Speaker 1: my takeaway from that is, and yeah, that's true, and
Speaker 1: these are all just pro athletes. I thought it was
Speaker 1: an interesting Mike dup uh and I tweeted about this
Speaker 1: us UM and Seahawks corner was like you betrayed us, Like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not in the bag for Sea the Seahawks. I
Speaker 1: I could speak out against uh Russell Wilson being corny
Speaker 1: because I think he is, and I thought it was
Speaker 1: weird that that miked up. You could see how he was,
Speaker 1: the way he was talking to players, and nobody was
Speaker 1: really like even responding to him. It was almost like
Speaker 1: a robot going up and down the sideline. And then
Speaker 1: you have the ESPN telecast. Uh, this is an exact quote.
Speaker 1: They came back from one of the clips sort of
Speaker 1: listening in on a masterclass of encouragement and leadership tonight,
Speaker 1: aren't we with Russell Wilson. I was like, really, am
Speaker 1: I I'm not picking that up. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: thought he's so talented, is so great at quarterback, that
Speaker 1: that's not what it's about. And he over I think
Speaker 1: he overcomes the fact that he's a bit of a bland. Well,
Speaker 1: if nothing else, he's he's firing himself up and he's
Speaker 1: the most important person. Yes, I think that's what And
Speaker 1: he's as tight as like Tyler Lockett is is apparently
Speaker 1: like his best friend in the world. He's probably the next,
Speaker 1: you know, most important guy on that team. So as
Speaker 1: long as you're connecting with yourself and you're that good.
Speaker 1: And this is a little unusual though, because if you
Speaker 1: watch it and they you know a lot of people
Speaker 1: were pointing this out. There was just zero reaction from
Speaker 1: end of his any of his teammates to anything he
Speaker 1: was saying or doing. It was you know who else
Speaker 1: has planned Jared Golf Like, he's not. I'm not running
Speaker 1: through walls for Jared Goff based on what's coming out
Speaker 1: of his mouth either. So these guys are all built,
Speaker 1: but Seattle's track records suggests that whether they're drawing back
Speaker 1: at him, that they believe in Russell Wilson. That's you
Speaker 1: know there, Jared's Goff's like, hey, you guys know how
Speaker 1: late in and out is exactly I wanted to mention you.
Speaker 1: You asked about Aaron Donald Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's there this year. Right now, go
Speaker 1: win this game for them, like, go have a monster
Speaker 1: game in a game they have to win in a
Speaker 1: big spot. And then you get thrown into that mix
Speaker 1: and and he's as good, he's good enough to do
Speaker 1: it against this line they the Rams. One last thing
Speaker 1: is they remind me a little bit or they have
Speaker 1: a chance at least the Falcons and the Eagles both
Speaker 1: of the last two years as defending NFC champions looked
Speaker 1: pretty down and out at the beginning of decem and
Speaker 1: they went on and run and they started to make
Speaker 1: you believe and they ended up getting to the quarterfinals
Speaker 1: and at least making some noise. The Rams have a
Speaker 1: chance to be like that. What Aaron Donald did the
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray List we look like something at Lawrence Taylor's
Speaker 1: career where they the closing speed to violence ratio was
Speaker 1: just way like thirty years ahead of its time and
Speaker 1: the phrase was mental giant that Richard Sherman said about
Speaker 1: Russell Wills. But don't you think, to Greg's point, that
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald needs to do that in a primetime game
Speaker 1: that matters and changes the way we think about the
Speaker 1: Rams for for the narrative driven defensive player of the year. Yes,
Speaker 1: I do. I think he's gonna be in double digit
Speaker 1: sacks again, which is unreal for a defensive tackle. I mean,
Speaker 1: he in the RAMS defense is probably the best defense
Speaker 1: of his career right now, so he should be in
Speaker 1: the race. Let's move on Monday Night football Giants at
Speaker 1: Eagles Eagles dirt knap game potentially, but who knows, but
Speaker 1: probably um at five and seven they are one game
Speaker 1: behind the Cowboys, um who Obviously Cowboys win and Eagles loss,
Speaker 1: and you could essentially put it all to bed. But
Speaker 1: you have the Giants, and the one thing that gives
Speaker 1: us game um cash a little juice is that it
Speaker 1: looks like a guy we've kind of I kind of
Speaker 1: never expected to see on the field again. Eli Manning
Speaker 1: is most likely starting because Daniel Jones, the rookie first
Speaker 1: round pick, has a mid high ankle sprain and it's
Speaker 1: expected to cost him at least one game. So on
Speaker 1: Monday night, Eli back on the field, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of at stake, including his career record which stands
Speaker 1: at one sixteen and one sixteen. This is huge, and
Speaker 1: Golden Tate looks like he's gonna come back from his concussion.
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram is talking about playing for the first time
Speaker 1: in over a month. This might be a pretty full
Speaker 1: Giant squad to take on. You hate it, No, they're
Speaker 1: one of my you know, I'm not gonna drop double
Speaker 1: rain makers here, but I'm liking the Giants as a
Speaker 1: is a heavy underdog. It just feels like such an
Speaker 1: Eli thing. He's going up against the team he's had
Speaker 1: the most success against in the last few years, including
Speaker 1: this Jim Schwartz uh defense. It just feels like it
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like an annoying night of Eli lovers
Speaker 1: Uh saying ze because this this Eagles team just feels
Speaker 1: capable keeping any team in the game, like they just
Speaker 1: feel capable of of doing anything. At this point, I'm
Speaker 1: with you, I can't. Can you imagine what happens to
Speaker 1: the city of Philadelphia at home to lose to Eli
Speaker 1: manning the Giants this week and essentially in Philly season.
Speaker 1: That's wild. I think it's just insane, and they're getting
Speaker 1: healthy at the right time. This feels like an Eli
Speaker 1: Speakewon Barkley looked sharp last week. I don't want to
Speaker 1: hear about his injuries or whatever. He doesn't look like
Speaker 1: he jumped about fifty feet in the air on one place.
Speaker 1: I just totally disagree with you. He doesn't look his
Speaker 1: vision is okay. But I I do have a little
Speaker 1: bit of a conspiracy theory here. Though. It's like Steve Tisch,
Speaker 1: the owner speaks on Monday, he's not happy. Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: finished his out last week's game and made a lot
Speaker 1: of great throws in that game. I don't know when
Speaker 1: the injury happened. But man, he had a lot of
Speaker 1: great throws in addition to his turnovers. And then and
Speaker 1: then we hear about this injury no one knew happened,
Speaker 1: and they're playing on Monday Night football and the Giants
Speaker 1: boy is back in the line of he definitely got injured.
Speaker 1: I got it. But like if they were seven and five,
Speaker 1: would he be playing in this game? If you look
Speaker 1: at the counter wars feed, I think he agrees with you.
Speaker 1: You just find so there's some people close to the
Speaker 1: Giants to find this to be a little bit. What's
Speaker 1: the logic to it though, that Eli is getting his
Speaker 1: job back or just a nice little now just that yeah,
Speaker 1: they want they want to lie back to get their
Speaker 1: sick of losing, and they think Eli would give them
Speaker 1: a better chance. And it's Monday night football. He deep
Speaker 1: six is the Eagles. Let's say you bring Eli back
Speaker 1: for one more season, you don't make the next head
Speaker 1: coach bring him back, and the same logic, he'll go
Speaker 1: four now and they'll give him in a contract. The
Speaker 1: same logic that we use with Andy Dalton should hold here.
Speaker 1: That's part of what I'm worried about. Kill Man it's
Speaker 1: already dead. That's true. But in this case, is Eli
Speaker 1: going to be able to escape the Eagles pressure like
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick did. He doesn't have Fitzpatrick's wheels. I think
Speaker 1: the Eagles got tired out in Miami last week watching
Speaker 1: the end of that game. They dominated the first quarter,
Speaker 1: but they got I think then the heat and stuff.
Speaker 1: They just were not the same team down the stretch.
Speaker 1: I mean, they gave up leads of ten nothing the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Not a good look. All right, we will recap all
Speaker 1: the games we just previewed on Sunday night, our flagship show.
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Speaker 1: follow along because Ricky gets hot in there in the
Speaker 1: comment section, doesn't it. Oh yeah, it's crazy. We've We've
Speaker 1: got um a lot of people watching right now, over
Speaker 1: seven hundred in our small feed that we just started.
Speaker 1: So that's pretty cool. People the numbers a little bit.
Speaker 1: But oh wait wait, I forgot Yeah, it's seven thousand,
Speaker 1: one sixty. My bad, I'm sorry when my glasses on. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the comments are good, if any. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of heat going on. People are arguing about the Ravens.
Speaker 1: You know, people are saying the rams are gonna win.
Speaker 1: A lot of people say, like, you spelled your own
Speaker 1: name wrong, troll. Well, yeah, we do need, like the
Speaker 1: podcast listeners to come into the YouTube comment and improve
Speaker 1: the quality of the guy, the guy that you know,
Speaker 1: like the twelve year old that just keeps being like
Speaker 1: Bernie Cosarn. Sorry, like that's what Mark has been typing
Speaker 1: for the best sensical points over and over Because are
Speaker 1: there any haters aimed at us like that? They're displeased?
Speaker 1: It seems like a little bit, but no, a lot
Speaker 1: of love. A lot of people are asking what west
Speaker 1: his kid's going to be named? A lot of people
Speaker 1: and a girl name picked out, but we are we
Speaker 1: don't have a boy name. Yeah. On wavering language, wavering language?
Speaker 1: What does that even mean? Unwavering language? I'm sorry, Mark,
Speaker 1: what does that mean? I mean? Do I think that
Speaker 1: what is unwavering language? I don't know. But if you're
Speaker 1: saying that in a huddle, like, what is that supposed
Speaker 1: to mean. I guess like positive reinforcements saying positive things.
Speaker 1: I mean, do I think that Dwayne Brown has been
Speaker 1: in the NFL for fourteen years at left tackle is
Speaker 1: and if you've listened to him as extremely bright guy
Speaker 1: is taking a lot out of that. No, it's maybe
Speaker 1: not for Dwayne, but maybe some of the rookies, some
Speaker 1: of the young I think it's for If it's for
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and you're gonna get what Russell Wilson gives
Speaker 1: you a quarterback, then you don't care enough. I'd be
Speaker 1: fine if it were happening on my favorite team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't help us, Like it's not like he's
Speaker 1: making our careers better. I don't need him to be
Speaker 1: miked up every game. I just think that, like they say,
Speaker 1: we don't need to make him up again. They also said,
Speaker 1: like maybe he he obviously knew he was miked up,
Speaker 1: and there's been a lot of you know, no doubt
Speaker 1: about that. But I feel like he'd be saying that
Speaker 1: same stuff. I think that's he's been that dude, so
Speaker 1: like he at least he's real to who he is.
Speaker 1: You may not find it attractive. Hear you on that.
Speaker 1: I don't think you would want your friend. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: want your friends walking around before podcast talking to you
Speaker 1: that way. It seems like a nice guy. Listen. I
Speaker 1: want to make things clear too. The Seahawks corner because
Speaker 1: I love it on the corner. Um, he's a good guy.
Speaker 1: It's just a bit you don't care about the Seahawks. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's a good guy. He does a lot of charity work.
Speaker 1: Sarra is a wonderful pop star. Uh. And he's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite quarterbacks that I've ever watched. I just
Speaker 1: find him to be according well, yeah, the way I
Speaker 1: mean we could separate these things in his public persona
Speaker 1: is kind of a fascinating thing to have tracked over
Speaker 1: the years. He really hasn't been the same since the
Speaker 1: Entourage article and Sports Allocated with people. Should Google find
Speaker 1: the cover article of him and his Entourage guys, all
Speaker 1: the bros in the box at the never more unintended
Speaker 1: consequences of like a feature. I do feel what he's
Speaker 1: looking for. He's an obvious target for sportswriter types because
Speaker 1: of the way he is and because our job is
Speaker 1: to be the complete opposite or anybody else that's not
Speaker 1: your all right, but I like, but it's not all
Speaker 1: about like you're a cynical monsters just but it's but
Speaker 1: he is. He stands out as too enthusiastic and too
Speaker 1: kind of positive for a culture that does not embrace
Speaker 1: that at all. The space. I think he's got four
Speaker 1: games left to go win an m v P, and
Speaker 1: he's right in there. I don't think it's some blowout here.
Speaker 1: Rust risk can still be rust the season. He's dangerous.
Speaker 1: Even the handle of the Twitter to dance point out
Speaker 1: that it's the positivity that people have an issue with.
Speaker 1: It's the it's the robotic nature of the responses. Just
Speaker 1: never forget when I had to, like, I live next
Speaker 1: door in college to this baseball player who always seemed
Speaker 1: like a quiet, kind of tough guy, and he needed
Speaker 1: me to like water his plants when he went on vacation,
Speaker 1: and I went in there and on all four walls
Speaker 1: were written on like probably fifty to sixty note cards
Speaker 1: like self encouragement, all positivity, all the same stuff. And
Speaker 1: I just have known a few athletes during that time.
Speaker 1: I don't obviously, I was just thrown by it. I
Speaker 1: was totally thrown by because it was a typical to
Speaker 1: what I thought of the guy. You a big are
Speaker 1: you know your little back shed on your property mark
Speaker 1: where you know stuff goes down where you you have
Speaker 1: your computer. I'm gonna get you a beautiful framed like
Speaker 1: you know what is that store at the mall, or
Speaker 1: you get you can store positive affirmations or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: It just will say, unwavering language, all right, if you
Speaker 1: buy that for me, I'll put it on a wall somewhere.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna guarantee where. All right, good, all right,
Speaker 1: that's it. Good stuff. We got through all the games.
Speaker 1: Dan had to signingbut for a quiet storm, the mail Man,
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, Rick Halliday, Ryan Bartlett, Christie Tara Zack
Speaker 1: until Sunday s