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Speaker 2: Hi, everybody from Seattle. I'm in Seattle, guys, Welcome to

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Speaker 2: another episode of the Full Circle Podcast. I'm Lexi Brown.

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Speaker 2: I'm here with my girl, Mariah Rose. How are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm so good, Lexi. How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: The vibes are just very immaculate right now. I feel

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Speaker 2: it through the screen. What's going on? How is your weekend? Like?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: What? What is it?

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Speaker 1: I think I'm just I think I'm just happy that

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Speaker 1: I had a weekend at home because I have been

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Speaker 1: traveling so much that I la the apartment. Well, yes,

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Speaker 1: but for a day. I got home on Friday, so

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Speaker 1: technically I was in Atlanta for the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And what was the last time you spent a

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Speaker 2: whole weekend in Atlanta? Girl?

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Speaker 1: I don't even know. But but I'm happy because I

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Speaker 1: feel like I got to I'm cleaning my apartment, I'm

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Speaker 1: getting my life together. I'm a per And again, how

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Speaker 1: are you settling in in Seattle?

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Speaker 2: Well, I just got here last night, and so far,

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Speaker 2: so good. It's energy here is amazing, Like it's actually

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Speaker 2: probably the best first twenty four hours I've had in

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Speaker 2: any city I've played in, honestly, Like the communication is

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Speaker 2: on point. They've picked me up at the airport. They

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Speaker 2: didn't have me waiting. All my stuff in my apartment

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Speaker 2: was just all set up and ready got They had

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Speaker 2: a rental car waiting for me today. I get to

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Speaker 2: go to the facility tomorrow, so I actually might go

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Speaker 2: tonight and go just take it all in before everyone

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Speaker 2: else is there, So I might go go get some

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Speaker 2: shots up tonight on the shooting machine, which like the

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Speaker 2: fact that I can do that now, like I literally

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Speaker 2: can't believe it, Like isn't that horrible though, Like this

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Speaker 2: is year eight, and I'm excited to have a shooting

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Speaker 2: machine that I can to be able to go to

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Speaker 2: the gym at night, like and you think about it,

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Speaker 2: and it's just like we should all have a gym

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Speaker 2: to be able to go to a nighttime. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: now it's becoming like a joke or whatever, like the

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Speaker 2: players are like, oh, we deserve better, and then they

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Speaker 2: just ship you away because I posted a TikTok yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Actually I was gonna bring that up.

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Speaker 2: But you know what's funny, Sato commented on it, and

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Speaker 2: I went on her page and she like literally posted

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Speaker 2: like the same exact video like a few weeks ago

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Speaker 2: when she was in the hot tib At, I think

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Speaker 2: at her new facility.

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Speaker 1: I saw that one too, but I didn't see that.

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Speaker 2: So I went on there and I commented last night,

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Speaker 2: I said, God, don't even see that you posted this.

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Speaker 2: That's so funny that like collectively, were all feeling the

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Speaker 2: same way about demanding more and if your team just

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Speaker 2: can't provide it for you, theyor just send you to

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Speaker 2: a team that will. So thank you La Sparks for

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Speaker 2: sending me somewhere that will take care of me. But

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Speaker 2: it should be the norm across the board that everybody

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Speaker 2: but surely, but we're getting there. Speaking of TikTok, have

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Speaker 2: you been reading any of the comment of the last

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Speaker 2: video I posted of us talking about the international players?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Okay, well I would.

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Speaker 1: Like to what they're saying about us, Lexi.

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Speaker 3: It's not even bad about us.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like, first thing about social media since

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Speaker 2: I've been off X like everything has just been rainbows,

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Speaker 2: butterflies and sunshines. I've been so much happier and my

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Speaker 2: mind is clearer, so we'll start there. So when I

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Speaker 2: the comments and people argue with each other, I want

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Speaker 2: everyone to collectively take a deep breath and stop arguing

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Speaker 2: so much under other people's posts. It's getting out of control,

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Speaker 2: especially when I can tell that neither one of the

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Speaker 2: That conversation we had about the international players and the

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Speaker 2: comments I was that the WNBA is trying to bring

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Speaker 2: And I was like, do y'all know there are not

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Speaker 2: forth about you know how we're always just like, oh,

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Speaker 2: they need to lower the age. And then it's like

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Speaker 2: people can't really pick a side. But I'm like, just

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Speaker 2: because the rule gets changed doesn't mean people have to

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Speaker 2: like leave. We were just.

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Speaker 3: Saying that the option should be there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if anybody does want to leave, because that's it.

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Speaker 2: But I just like, I was reading the comments and

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Speaker 2: to say. And then they're like, well, they put a

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Speaker 2: cap on Europeans here. No, I don't think that's the either.

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Speaker 2: But it's just like I'm always shocked at the lack

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm seeing them. I had to go look it up,

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Speaker 1: and the main thing I see is this conversation about

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Speaker 1: it doesn't benefit college players to come out and go

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Speaker 1: to the w early because of an il and blah

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Speaker 1: say that is just that the option should be there

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Speaker 1: as far as age and everything is concerned, and the

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Speaker 1: know that that's an option, and I know that it

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Speaker 1: makes sense. We've just had a million times it makes

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Speaker 1: more sense for them to stay longer, but basketball wise,

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Speaker 1: and I think Sedona made us talk about this age wise,

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Speaker 1: Like we're talking about how like if your people are younger,

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Speaker 1: they're going to take people who are younger with a

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Speaker 1: Like that makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 2: It's actually crazy how much of the conversation surrounding college

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Speaker 2: to talk about later, but for next college season when

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Speaker 2: we're doing our show, like I really want to get

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Speaker 3: Speaking of nil and transferring.

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Speaker 2: I think Jeniah Baker just committed to Tennessee. I saw

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Speaker 2: that today, which again further validates our point that everybody

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Speaker 2: ACC and the Big Ten. I'm super concerned about the ACC.

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Speaker 2: I think the Big Ten will be okay, the Big twelve,

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Speaker 2: they'll have a few, but as far as the ACC, like,

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Speaker 2: I'm just I don't know what they're gonna do. But

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Speaker 2: like do I don't know much about like how the

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Speaker 2: money and all that stuff works, But it's just like

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Speaker 2: y'all got to find some money somewhere. Find it. I

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Speaker 2: watched an interview with Coach Yo on Dejah Kelly's podcast.

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Speaker 2: She dropped a clip today and Coach Yo's is now

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Speaker 2: saying that the first thing she's asking her players is

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Speaker 2: how much money do you want? Dang, I can't believe this,

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Speaker 2: and I know it's so it's now I'm so beyond

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Speaker 2: conflicted with this NIL stuff now, because how much money

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Speaker 2: do you want? Like?

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Speaker 3: You average three points?

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Speaker 2: A game. You should get twenty dollars, Like what do

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Speaker 2: we And I talked about it with Erica Wheeler when

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Speaker 2: I was with her, Like it's not teaching these kids

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Speaker 2: how to like earn anything, battle through adversity, figure your

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Speaker 2: shit out, Like, unless you really are in a horrible

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Speaker 2: situation at your school, like you should, you should be

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Speaker 2: encouraged and motivated enough to try and figure it out.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna die on this new hill every every day.

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Speaker 2: I'm building a new hill to die on. Bring back

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Speaker 2: that sit out rule unless your coaches change or leave.

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Speaker 2: If you leave and your coaching staff is the same,

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Speaker 2: you need to sit out. Like it's getting ridiculous at

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Speaker 2: this point. And now you have players moving from team

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Speaker 2: but like what about the kids that are already on

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Speaker 2: the team. Mm hmm, Like you got a new player

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Speaker 2: stop all over something that you've been building yourself. I'm

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Speaker 2: not really here for that at all.

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Speaker 1: So again, my concern with NIL and the transfer rules

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Speaker 1: with the level of play, because again, if the basketball

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Speaker 1: It's going to get to a point where it's like

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Speaker 1: a couple of places. Everybody's just kind of playing around.

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Speaker 1: It's feeling very unserious, and like you said about I

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Speaker 1: want them to make their money. Like I don't even

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Speaker 1: want to sound like a hater. I think most people

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Speaker 1: they don't deserve to make their money, but there needs

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Speaker 1: to be balanced there because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: the most important thing should not be going to the

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Speaker 1: if that opportunity is there, obviously they're going to go

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Speaker 1: to the school that's going to make them the most money.

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Speaker 1: As a fan of basketball, we need to start having

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Speaker 1: basketball conversations again, like you said, Lexi, next season obviously

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Speaker 1: we'll get very much into that and through w season

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Speaker 1: and everything. That's the whole point of us doing this,

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Speaker 1: But it's just unfortunate because those conversations are dominating the

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Speaker 1: changes every year because everybody can, right.

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Speaker 2: So you can't even like build on anything that you

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Speaker 3: They're at a new school, and then whoever was on

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Speaker 2: A new school. So it's like, how do we even

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say James like relinquished his power

436
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 2: to us, like the team, I mean, but he kind

437
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 2: of was like, all right, like we made it to

438
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: the playoffs barely, I'm gonna let y'all rock and we

439
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna roll with what y'all want to do. Basically,

440
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 2: we have like this meeting and it was like a

441
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 2: great meeting, but like basically he was just like like,

442
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,360
Speaker 2: we can win, but we got to like we got

443
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: to meet in the middle. But it was more like

444
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 2: he met us like the majority of the way, and

445
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 2: then we met him a little bit and then we

446
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 2: ended up winning. So really it's like, how good of

447
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 2: a relationship do your star players? How are your coaches

448
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 2: and your coach's coaching staff, and that it matters like

449
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 2: and then you're basically people say like your point guard

450
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 2: is the extension of your coach, which yeah, that's true,

451
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 2: but I also think like your superstar is also an

452
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 2: extension of your coach. So you have to be able

453
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 2: to communicate things that maybe they don't know how to communicate,

454
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 2: things that maybe they don't feel like they need to communicate.

455
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 2: Some conversations need to be had amongst teammates privately or

456
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: in front of everybody, whatever you want to do. But

457
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 2: those conversations in that relationship I think is the biggest

458
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 2: part of building a successful team and building a winning culture,

459
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: which is why I couldn't figure my shit out in

460
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: LA because every year it was a new coach that

461
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 2: I was trying to build a relationship with, and then

462
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 2: a whole new group of players that I was trying

463
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 2: to build a relationship with.

464
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 3: And that's not like the recipe to be successful.

465
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 2: So as much as I would never want to be

466
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: a coach, I respect the hell out of them. I

467
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 2: think they're necessary to win games. Sometimes you're like, oh,

468
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 2: this team is like coaching themselves, but like, yeah, like,

469
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 2: but a good coach puts a team in a situation

470
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 2: to be able to just like run on autopilot. So

471
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: I do think coaches are important. I'm very excited to

472
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 2: be coached by a former player because we just think differently.

473
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: And some of these coaches like, oh, yeah I played,

474
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 2: we know, No you did it. I don't believe you.

475
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: I don't believe it. Yeah, how coaches that for like, yeah,

476
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: when I was you know, and I know that was

477
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: like a thousand years ago.

478
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear it.

479
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: I'd like what you said about star players and coaches

480
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: because they are an extension of the coach. Because they

481
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: are they set the culture in the locker room when

482
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: the coaches and around when the coaches around. Really, I

483
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: feel like, especially younger players are looking to the star

484
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: player more than they're looking at a coach. And I

485
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: feel like organizations they see their star players as anchors

486
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 1: and their franchises, and they see coaches as disposaball. Like

487
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: you talked about your situation in LA, I feel like,

488
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: what's it like when y'all know the coach is about

489
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: to get fired?

490
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 3: Man?

491
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: What's that like? That's that like?

492
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 2: Listen? I will tell another story about LA. So my

493
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 2: first year in LA, when Derek Fisher was still the coach,

494
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,719
Speaker 2: I forgot where we were, but we had just lost

495
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: a game that we probably shouldn't have lost. And it's

496
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 2: not funny, because coaches getting fired is not funny, guys.

497
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: But it's just like the way that professional sports just

498
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: operates at times is very unseerious and if any other

499
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like maybe some people get like

500
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 2: blindsided when they get fired from their jobs or whatever.

501
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: But like the way, the time, the energy, the relationships

502
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: you have to build in these professional sports and the

503
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: way that they're just like get out is so crazy

504
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: to me.

505
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 3: So I think we end up we lost the game.

506
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: I can't remember if we were on the road or not,

507
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 2: but we're in the locker room, dead silent fish walks in,

508
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 2: doesn't say anything, just brings us in for the huddle,

509
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: and just like walks out of the locker room and

510
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 2: that was it.

511
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 3: And then I was like the last time we saw.

512
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: It, so there was no I'm not coming back. It

513
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: just just break.

514
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 3: He just walked in, he said bring it in.

515
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: It was like, this works, and then left and then

516
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 2: boom fired.

517
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: That's so awkward. And then after your coach is fired

518
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: and they bring in an interim or whatever.

519
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: So this is just moves up to replace. And then

520
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: at that point you're just kind of like that, like

521
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 2: no one ever talks about that coaching time period because

522
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 2: you're in such an awkward situation and the team is

523
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 2: in such an awkward situation, like someone just lost their

524
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 2: job and now you're just like filling in for them,

525
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: Like do you implement your own offense defense? Like how

526
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: much time of the season is left? Like am I

527
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 2: interviewing for the head coaching job right now? Or is

528
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 2: this just temporary? So do I want to show all

529
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 2: my cards just for them to not keep me anyway?

530
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 3: Which is what happened in LA. They ended up not keeping.

531
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: Bread as our head coach after he actually did a

532
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: pretty good job considering all the nonsense we were dealing

533
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: with that season. But it's like that's like a very

534
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 2: unspoken about process for coaching staffs and players. It's like, Okay,

535
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: your head coach just got fired, but like, Okay, now

536
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 2: you got to listen to this new person, and god forbid,

537
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: you don't have a good relationship with that assistant coach.

538
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: Thankfully I did, but there was some players on its

539
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: team that like didn't. Then now they're in charge.

540
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm wondering that right now watching the NBA playoffs

541
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: are on right now and thinking about Denver and Memphis.

542
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: Your coaches just got fired and you're in the most

543
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: important part of the season. Like yeah, I feel like

544
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: that's really important.

545
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: It's crazy, and then you just have to like go

546
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: about per usual, be the professional that you are the

547
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: whole time. You really still like because nobody ever comes

548
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: in and sits the team down and lays out, Okay,

549
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 2: this is what.

550
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 3: He was doing right, or is this is what she

551
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 3: was doing right?

552
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: This is what she or he was doing wrong, and

553
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: this is what y'all are doing right, what y'all are

554
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: doing wrong. There's no conversation about anything. You just have

555
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: to move on, at least not in my experiences. That

556
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: could be different for other players' experiences, But I just

557
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: feel like it would benefit to have some type of

558
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,719
Speaker 2: meeting or conversation to lay out what led to this

559
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: decision instead of just being like, this is the decision

560
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 2: we made and just get over y'all selves. So it's

561
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: always extremely interesting that power struggle of coaches in front offices,

562
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: which is why I also think that leagues like athletes

563
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: are limited and unrivaled everyone loves so much because that

564
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: that dynamic is gone, Like you don't deal with that

565
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: at all. Like athletes unlimited, we don't even have coaches.

566
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 2: We don't have coaches at all. We have facilitators who

567
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 2: are like many coaches, but there is no coach's favorite

568
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: coaches yelling at you. We don't got a gm play

569
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: this person, don't play that personal were trying to trade

570
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: this person, Like there's none of that going on. Athletes

571
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,239
Speaker 2: a limited unrivaled is a little bit different because they

572
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: do have coaches, but like, you're not gonna get fired

573
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: in the middle of the unrivaled season. There's no GM,

574
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: like your team is what it is, and like the

575
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: environment is just completely different. So I feel like that

576
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: is also why fans and players have found like more

577
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: enjoyment in the off season leagues, because that whole political

578
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 2: negative side of bounding down to the front office has

579
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: been moved. And I hope like the WNBA is watching

580
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 2: these two leagues and they're seeing like how the players

581
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 2: are interacting with each other and how the level of

582
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 2: play is elevated. Like I think there is a direct

583
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 2: correlation between like happiness and playing well, you know, like

584
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: look good, play good. It's like so I'm hoping like

585
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: we're going to implement, you know, a less toxic environment

586
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: in professional sports, but like I don't know, I don't

587
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: know if that's possible with the people in charge unfortunately,

588
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: because they don't understand what it's like to be in

589
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: these situations.

590
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: Why do you feel like there was so much turnaround

591
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: with coaching last season in the W Yes.

592
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 2: Well, I think that there's more eyes which led to

593
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: like more criticisms, which I remember literally telling our GM

594
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: and coach last season to get off Twitter because I

595
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 2: could tell that they was looking on it like I

596
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: was like, y'all need to get off the internet, like enough,

597
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 2: because I remember Kurt like got himself in trouble tweeting

598
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: about some like you don't owe these people on an explanation.

599
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: You're the coach. So it was like we would wake

600
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: I would wake up and obvio see a tweet, So

601
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: look good? He tweeted, like why are you tweeting responding

602
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: to what people are saying online? And like that's something

603
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: that I had to learn myself. And like it was

604
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: like I was like funny, ha ha, like get off Twitter,

605
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: But I like Loki was dead ass serious because why

606
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: are y'all doing that? Like y'all are in the positions

607
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: y'all are in because y'all are qualified and y'all earned it,

608
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: and that's what y'all want to do. Like why are

609
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: you looking at what anybody is saying on the internet.

610
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: So I think that had a huge part of it.

611
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: It's like you had more eyes. So people were like

612
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: very critical of what was going on. And I think

613
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: everyone is just kind of like gearing up for this

614
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: new era of WNBA and you have to put the

615
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: right people in the right places, you know, these teams,

616
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: like I said, drafting intentionally. Free agency was very intentional,

617
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: so I think they were just putting the right coaches

618
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: and the right situations and then gearing up for potential changes,

619
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: Like we're talking about the more European players possibly coming

620
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: over a lockout. Hopefully not, but like there's just a

621
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: lot of moving pieces, and I think the best time

622
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: to make like massive changes was right now. I remember

623
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: being in the league eight years now. It's been like

624
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: a carousel of the same coaches bouncing around from this

625
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: team to this team to this team. You have a

626
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: losing season, Oh, who cares, We're gonna hire you over here.

627
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: Oh your whole team turned against you. Cool, we're gonna

628
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: hire you and Steve, you can do something different on

629
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: this team. So it's been nice to see new people

630
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: being hired, especially from like the NBA side. I love

631
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: that some college coaches have come up, because you know,

632
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: everyone is like up in arms that Don Staley won't

633
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: leave South Carolina, But I'm like, but there's other coaches

634
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: that will leave their colleges to come be in the

635
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: w So I'm happy that a few of those coaches

636
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 2: have come to coach in the WNBA. So I'm actually

637
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: really excited about this season because there's so much change,

638
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: Like every team is different except for the Minnesota Links.

639
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to go team, which makes sense. You

640
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: know how I feel about going to the finals and

641
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: changing whole team up because you lost? I know, I

642
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: hate that. What are you looking forward to the most?

643
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: And I'm curious because I know if it were me.

644
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: I know when I was in high school the last

645
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: time I was an athlete, every season I had a

646
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: game circle. You got any game circle?

647
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: You know what game I have circled? Riah, do you

648
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: already know? But what I did find out yesterday is

649
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: we have a close scrimmage in La early May, so

650
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: I can get all that bad jed you out in private.

651
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: So when we have the real game, it will be.

652
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: All just fun.

653
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be all shits and gigs. Actually, this is

654
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: how I wanted to kind of break down the W

655
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: season these next two episodes. This episode, I want to

656
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: talk about the East Conference teams, even though we techically

657
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: don't have conferences anymore, but this is the easiest way

658
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: to break them up, and then next week we can

659
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: get into the West. Is that cool?

660
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm excited?

661
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, all right?

662
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: In the Eastern conf ferences. If you guys don't know.

663
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: Let's give the listeners a little history lesson. There was

664
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: a time where the WNBA operated Eastern and Western Conference

665
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: in playoffs. Okay, that used to be a thing. I

666
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: think that the Western Conference became too dominant, I want

667
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: to say, which is kind of what we're seeing in

668
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: the NBA. I wonder if they'll ever pivot out of

669
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: the Eastern versus Western and just go one through.

670
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: They copy j'all with the Ncason Tournament too.

671
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: So okay, back to the WNBA and the Eastern Conference.

672
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: We have the liberty, the fever, the dream, the sun,

673
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: the sky, and the mystics. Okay, So this is how

674
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: we're going to have this conversation. We're going to go

675
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: through if they had a coaching change or not, any

676
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: of their major personnel changes, not including the rookies. Okay,

677
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: I'm not really going to We talked about the rookies

678
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: last week. I don't really know enough about them all yet.

679
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: So we're going to acknowledge that they got rookies, but

680
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: we're going to talk more about their returners, cool potential

681
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: play style changes, and then as far as my basketball

682
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: nerds like me, I'm gonna use three stats that I

683
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: looked up on the WNBA page, which is effective field

684
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: goal percentage, which is your field goal percentage, and it

685
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: calculates it a little differently because it includes three point percentages,

686
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: and it like weighs it a little bit higher because

687
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: they're worth more points. Their pace, which is how fast

688
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: you play, and then their net rating, which is your

689
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: offensive rating minus your defensive rating, which is like you

690
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: basically will be like your point differential. Okay, all right,

691
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: everybody keep up.

692
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm so excited.

693
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: First team we'll talk about is Indiana Fever. They were

694
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: first in effective field goal percentage, second in pace, and

695
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: sixth in net rating. New coach Stephanie White, who came

696
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: from the Connecticut Sun, and some notable personal changes is

697
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: the additions of Natasha Howard, Sophie Cunningham, Breonna Turner, Dawanna Bonner,

698
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: and Sidney Coulson.

699
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: Thoughts, Mariah, Well, We've talked in length about the Indiana

700
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: Fever and what they did in the offseason, but I

701
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: think they obviously are taking winning and capitalizing off of

702
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: this Caitlin Clark moment. They have going very seriously and

703
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: I feel like this is exactly how you are you're

704
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: supposed to react to having a star like her, and

705
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: they made the playoffs, she was Rookie of the Year,

706
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: she had a great year. Like this all makes sense.

707
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm excited for them. The coaching change I think is

708
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 1: going to be really big. Poor Connecticut. They're the East.

709
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: We'll get there in the We'll get to them.

710
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: Yes, but I think that it's going to be really exciting.

711
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not going to call them championship contenders

712
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but I think.

713
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: That it's going to be You think that they're contenders, Yes,

714
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: I do. I'll tell you why.

715
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait, let's talk about this for a second.

716
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: When I say championship contender, I mean I would bet

717
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: my own personal funds that they are going to win

718
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: a championship. I guess contending means they could. But like

719
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: I call, I think a contender is like, I will

720
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: put you in there right now today, I think you

721
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: will win.

722
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 3: I guess my contenter means get to the finals.

723
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, get to the finals, get to the

724
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: finals a.

725
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'll tell you why.

726
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: I think that there was a lot of misconception about

727
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Clark's overall game. I think that people got so

728
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: caught up in her scoring that they didn't realize how

729
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: good of a point guards she was in college.

730
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: So I think that.

731
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: Well, not to interrupt you, but she didn't get the

732
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: opportunity to show that as much in college because as.

733
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: Much exactly, but the plays that she was making still

734
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: despite all that was like insane. But like people were

735
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 2: so caught up in the logo threes and the twenty

736
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: three point attempts per game, which absolutely I understand that,

737
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: Like it was so much fun to watch. But I

738
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: always said she could potentially be one of the best

739
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: point guards to ever play in the w NBA, and

740
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 2: everyone was like, shut up, Lexi, and I was like,

741
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: all right, led the league and assists last year as

742
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: a rookie, which is incredible. So I think after you know,

743
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: they take the inventory of this season, you look at

744
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: what you have, they said, we need to give her

745
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 2: a more elite supporting cast and potentially not as many

746
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 2: players that need to be spoon fed buckets. So that's

747
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: no disrespect to anybody that was on her team last year.

748
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: Like obviously they made the playoffs, they'd had a great season,

749
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: but you have a Natasha Howard and a Donwana Bonner

750
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: that can just straight up go get their own bucket.

751
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 2: And they're huge. Okay, these are tall people. Okay, guys,

752
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: I think they're both like sixty three and sixty four, right,

753
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: So matchup nightmare. Sophie Cunningham has been playing out of

754
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: position in Phoenix for like three years, so she probably

755
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: will get to go play the three again. She's a

756
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: very underrated defender, and now you have very elite rim

757
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: protection and Bree Turner, So now you go keep a

758
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: Leah Boston out of foul trouble, which means she's gonna

759
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: be a to stale on the court.

760
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 3: So do I think that they are a contender? Yes,

761
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 3: I do.

762
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: Then you throw in Sid Coulson, who is a very very,

763
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: very very solid backup point guard and she plays defense,

764
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: so you can even throw her out there with Kaitlyn,

765
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 2: and now Kaitlyn can chill on defense for the most part,

766
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: because defending the one is not easy. And it's not

767
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: because you can't stay in front of people. It's because

768
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: all they do is get freaking high ball screens constantly,

769
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: and it's hard to navigate those at times, especially when

770
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 2: the screener is six five. So yes, I do think

771
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: they're a contender because they strategically gave Caitlyn Clark a

772
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 2: very very very well balanced team where she won't have

773
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: to carry as much as the load I don't think,

774
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: and she can fish. She'll probably end up facilitating even

775
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: more than last season. And then I didn't even talk

776
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: about I didn't even mention Kelsey Mitchell. I can't believe

777
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: I forgot to mention Kelsey mission. All I do is

778
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: talk about her constantly. I have my notes right here.

779
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: I didn't even put Kelsey Mitsch's name on there, like,

780
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, Kelsey. She might be the most important returner.

781
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: I also, you make a really good point about defense

782
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: and Caitlyn being able to preserve herself on that side

783
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: of the court, because that is really really dangerous because one,

784
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: I don't think she's ever had that ever, and two

785
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: they also helps to protect her as far as staying healthy.

786
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

787
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: Exactly? Have I convinced you you make great points?

788
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: Will great points? But we shall go. We shall continue on.

789
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, speaking of contenders, we're going to talk about

790
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: the current WNBA champs, The Liberty. They were third in

791
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: effective field goal percentage, seventh in pace, and first in

792
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: net rating. And don't let that confuse you, because every

793
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: time we played the Liberty, like we were like, they

794
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 2: don't really like playing defense like that, which they don't.

795
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: They just scored way more points than everybody. So yes,

796
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 2: they have the number one net rating, but like, let's

797
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: not get it confused, like they're not locking up. They

798
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 2: wasn't locking up on defense, which, with that being said,

799
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 2: the additions that they have added might actually have them

800
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: sing us yes.

801
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: So they didn't make a coaching change.

802
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: They added Natasha Cloud, Isabelle Harrison and Marine Johannes decided

803
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: to come and play, which is so fun for all

804
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 2: of us to chase that girl around.

805
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: And then someone that.

806
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: Probably everyone has forgotten about is Rebecca Gardner. She's been

807
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: out with injury. She was on the Chicago Sky, now

808
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: she's on the Liberty. She, if everybody remembers, was the

809
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 2: oldest rookie ever. Everyone just reminded us constantly how old

810
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 2: she was a rookie. So love that for her. We

811
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: played together in Israel. She's a very smooth player, she's

812
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: a great defender, she's super athletic, very underrated, so them

813
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: adding Rebecca as well is huge for them, especially defensively.

814
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 2: But I'm interested to see how Tash intermingles with this group.

815
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: We watched Tash and Sabrina play pretty well together and

816
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 2: unrivaled because I remember we mentioned that a lot while

817
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: ago that tashould probably try to get on the Liberty

818
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: because her and Sabrina got a good little thing going on.

819
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: I can't believe, like we call that that literally and

820
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: it took a minute for it to happen. But I'm

821
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: happy for her.

822
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: So am I and I know that, Like remember we

823
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: would always talk about like the Liberty, like as good

824
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 2: as they were, they kind of like lacked like a

825
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: real personality, and that's why they made Ellie like the

826
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: face of the Liberty. Ellie is their mascot, guys, by

827
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: the way, which she is amazing and has been actually

828
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: so great for the Liberty and the WNBA. But I

829
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: don't like that their forward facing thing is their mascot

830
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 2: and not one of their players. I've always thought that

831
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: was interesting to me.

832
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: I kind of love that for them, especially being in

833
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: a franchise like New York and it's so forward facing

834
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: and it could be so Marquee and this, that and

835
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: the third they just want to hoop, like they're not

836
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: I see that they're not stressing all that other stuff.

837
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 3: They really just get to chill and play basketball.

838
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: Right, They're like, let Ellie go do the press tour

839
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: and go.

840
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: I never thought about it that way, like the fact Ellie, like, yeah,

841
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: I used to think it was weird, But I'm like

842
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: maybe they liked, like maybe they asked for it to

843
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 2: be like that, Like that wouldn't actually surprise me considering

844
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: who's on the team, Like they are a very marketable group.

845
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: Stewie signature shoe. Yeah, they already are doing their thing,

846
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: They're making their money on and off the court, and

847
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: they still get to just hoop and kind of stay

848
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: out of having to do all that face the franchise

849
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: extronists and just and go win the championship. I would

850
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: prefer that.

851
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: That's actually a great point, especially in New York. Okay,

852
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: all right, Mariah, you you have turned me because I

853
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: used to kind of have an attitude because I was like,

854
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: why do we see the elephant more than the players?

855
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: But that makes sense and that's why they probably freaking we.

856
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: Still the players just enough at the parade.

857
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: Facts with their championships and everything. I think that Tash's

858
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: going to be a great addition. She's going to bring,

859
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: you know, a different type of personality, a toughness, and

860
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: I think that I always said Sabrina plays well with

861
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: an elite point guard. So going from one elite point

862
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: guard to the next and from Cordy Matter, salute to

863
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: Natasha Cloud. So I'm excited about the Liberty. I'm very

864
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: excited for Natasha and let's see if they can defend

865
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: that title. Next we have the dream At Yeah oh ah, yeah,

866
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: this is yo tea.

867
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 3: Well technically mine too.

868
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: But they were last in effective field goal percentage, eleventh

869
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: in pace, and seventh in net rating. I we lost

870
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 2: to the Dreams. I think every time we played them,

871
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: which I was like, how like, well, I don't know,

872
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: like they had our number for some reason, like it

873
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 2: was crazy. New coach coach Smessko. I want to say

874
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: his last name is Believe. He's from Florida Golf Coast

875
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: and if I remember watching any type of Florida Golf Coast,

876
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: they like to run running gun, which will fix their

877
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: pace problem. Their major additions were Bree Jones, Shatry Walker,

878
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: kimbro and Brittan Grinder. So my only question is what

879
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 2: type of play style are they going to run? Because

880
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: you have two very dynamic scores and Ryan Howard and

881
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: Alisha Gray, you have a point guard that wants to

882
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: push pace in Jordan Canada, and now you add these

883
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: ginormous players that are pretty limited, not in like skill

884
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: set obviously, but like traditionally, they're very limited. They neither

885
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 2: one of them really shoot threes. They don't handle the ball,

886
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 2: which is basically what those positions are transforming to, slowly

887
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: but surely. So I'm very interested to see where they land.

888
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: What the identity is gonna be.

889
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we watched and we'll talk about Dallas next week,

890
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: we watched that double big experiment in Dallas fail miserably,

891
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: So I don't know if they're going to do the

892
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 2: double big thing in Atlanta or if they're gonna play

893
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: them one at a time. I'm talking about Big and Bri.

894
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: Those are two players that typically have been one of

895
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: the focal points of an offense, and I can see

896
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: them being like the third or fourth option on this team.

897
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 2: So Bigi's used to playing with the dynamic score and

898
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 2: Diana Tarassi as far as like outside shooting read not

899
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: so much. That's always what Connecticut's Achilles Hill was their

900
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: lack of perimeter consistent three point shooting.

901
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 3: So maybe it will benefit Bree having.

902
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: A completely change of scenery. As far as personnel and

903
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 2: play style, I mean, I think Beg's gonna be fine,

904
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: like she's BG. But they surprised me last year. I

905
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: thought they were going to be better than they were.

906
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: I think they were right there at the playoffs. They

907
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: almost made playoffs.

908
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: I will say, as we spoke about earlier, we saw

909
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: this in the MNBA with the missions, A coaching change

910
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: at the right time to build a new culture. You

911
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, might be the.

912
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: Move I believe. I mean, I believe in them, and

913
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: I love playing in Atlanta even though they're like, we

914
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: have the most sold out games in the league. Well yeah,

915
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 2: because you're arena holds twelve people. So like their games

916
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: are lit because I remember growing up they played in

917
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: the big arena where the Hawks played, and those games

918
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: were lit, and then they had like a down time

919
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: where the games were in that smaller arena and nobody

920
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: who's in there, And now it's packed out every night,

921
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: which I think is amazing, and the energy is very Atlanta,

922
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: like it's Atlanta down in there, like it's so fun.

923
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: You know, it sucks, and this is it. I'm not

924
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: even come for the Dream.

925
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: I see.

926
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: I see beautiful things for them this season. But I

927
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: was going to respond to all those things you said,

928
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: was I feel like this mystery of there's all these

929
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: options of what they could do and who the focal

930
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: point could be and what could possibly happen, just means

931
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: that we'll have options Lexi.

932
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, lots and lots of pop shops.

933
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: It is really unfortunate in Atlanta as far as being

934
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: a sports city that we have every professional sport. We

935
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: have so many sports teams and we have the fan

936
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: base here and we just don't have winning. So I'm

937
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: gonna need the Dream. I'm gonna be dedicating myself this

938
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: season full time. When I'm not being a dedicated Lexi fan,

939
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: when I'm there, when I'm there when you play the Dream,

940
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: I'll be supporting you, of course, but I feel like

941
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: I've dedicated myself to hopefully the Dream being that kind

942
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 1: of like Vegas brought Vegas their first National Sports championship,

943
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: we need that with a Dream so it's time.

944
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: I mean I have I'm very positive about what they

945
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: got going on there, like even the addition of Chatori.

946
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: I didn't talk about her much, Like she is a

947
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: consistent scoring option, she plays defense, and she's like a

948
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: great teammate because I played with her at Maryland, so

949
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 2: I know her personally and she's great and I'm glad that,

950
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: Like she also is getting a change of scenery. But

951
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: it's gonna be interesting, what like if they're gonna just

952
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: completely change their offense, because it's different when you bring

953
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: a new player. You bring in not even new players,

954
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: you bring in stars. These are two all stars you're

955
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: bringing in, and then someone who knows how to win,

956
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: like Stories won championship. She won championships in college, like

957
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: she's a winner. So you bring in three players like that,

958
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: you're obviously trying to make a culture change. So what

959
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: is that dream team gonna look like this season? Because

960
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 2: they had such a disappointing year last year, So shout

961
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: out to.

962
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 3: The dream I'm excited for them.

963
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: One of my favorite city still play in and they

964
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 2: have my favorite jerseys.

965
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: Loo Key playoffs. We playoffs, all right, Pero stamp it.

966
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 2: All right? Next up.

967
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: We have the Connecticut son.

968
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to read off these stats, but like they

969
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: really don't matter because nobody is nobody on the team

970
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: last year is even on the team. But I'm still

971
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: gonna read the stats anyway because we're going to keep

972
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: it consistent. Eighth and affective field god percentage, last in

973
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: pace and second in net rating. So new coach, the

974
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 2: European coach came over. Key additions Diamond Deshields, Marina Maybury,

975
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 2: j C. Sheldon, Yvonne Anderson, Lindsay Allen. Tina Charles was

976
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: the biggest surprise signing for me because I'm not going

977
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: to be an agist. I'm not because I'm creeping up

978
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: there as well. I don't want people to do this

979
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: to me. But I'm like very surprised at like she's

980
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: still playing, and I think it's like I think she

981
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: just wants to win, like she I can't imagine going

982
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: that is she.

983
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: Doing in Connecticut.

984
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like nobody else wanted to give her a.

985
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 3: Chance to win.

986
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 2: And I don't know Tina Charles personally. I'm pretty sure

987
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 2: she was overseas playing like the She doesn't get enough

988
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: credit in my opinion for her longevity, she might be

989
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: right behind DT and scoring. Yeah, she's the second leading

990
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: scorer behind Diana Tarassi. Yes she's over two thousand points

991
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: behind Diana Tarassi, but she's still second. And because she

992
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: hasn't won, people put her in this like box, which unfortunately,

993
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: that's the reality of sports at a certain point winning

994
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 2: if you're a good enough player winning there is an

995
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: expectation to win, and she just hasn't. But she's also

996
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: the all time leading rebounder.

997
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. See, I'm not trying to be I'm

998
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: not trying to be that person. I think that they

999
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: should just they should just go out there and have

1000
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: fun and try their best. That's what I see.

1001
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: But remember when Diamond was on here, she said she's like,

1002
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: y'all are sleep on us, and I believe her. It

1003
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 2: doesn't help that one of your star players demanded a trade,

1004
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: but two of them said, one actually got it and

1005
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: the other one did not get it. So that's probably

1006
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: not the greatest I.

1007
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: Would say Marina does not want to be there.

1008
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably not the best energy to have starting

1009
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: a season. But I'm hoping that the rest of the

1010
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: team can like override that and make her feel comfortable

1011
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 2: and make her feel like she can help them win games.

1012
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 2: And she needs to stay there because she's not getting traded. Yeah,

1013
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: be serious, she's not. You demanded the trade last year.

1014
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: It's not going to happen. And then they traded Tash,

1015
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: so I think they were like, Okay, we'll get rid

1016
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 2: of one of y'all. So I mean, I want them

1017
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: to have as good of a seat, Like I don't

1018
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: know what they're ceiling is, but I want them to

1019
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: get there.

1020
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 3: I would like to.

1021
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 2: See them get there because Diamond is my best friend.

1022
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: I want her to be successful. So yes, this is

1023
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 2: a very biased opinion on the success I want for

1024
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 2: Connecticut because I want her to feel success for herself.

1025
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: They have some rookies coming. I know we're going to

1026
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 2: talk about the rookies, but it's like you're starting from

1027
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: scratch it.

1028
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 3: Like for me, I'm like, this is fun.

1029
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 2: Like I know you're in Connecticut and like I know

1030
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: that's not fun, but like that's beside the point, like

1031
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: you are starting completely over. Like for me, I would

1032
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 2: love that. Don't send me there.

1033
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 3: But I'm I'm happy.

1034
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: Dined by Unbiased Synopsis. Okay, for those who don't know

1035
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. LEXI not a starter from

1036
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: last season, it's still there.

1037
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: No, they all loved every single one.

1038
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: Okay, your entire starting vibe is gone. I do that,

1039
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to hear you say it.

1040
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 2: You don't, Yeah, yep.

1041
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: The point is I feel like when you're in a

1042
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: situation like that, where really your whole culture, like we

1043
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: talked about with the coaches, star players, everything. Your coach

1044
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: is gone, your star player's gone. You're starting completely from scratch.

1045
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: My positive for Diamond, I will say, is being in

1046
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: that kind of situation is very low pressure and gives

1047
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: you an opportunity to shine. And I hope she finds

1048
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: that success for herself. But that organization needs to figure

1049
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: it out low key because there's some crazy stat about

1050
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: they've been to the playoffs the most times.

1051
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, most playoff wins, most playoff wins, a championship.

1052
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, most playoff wins that championship. That don't

1053
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: make no sense. And to have that and then to

1054
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: get rid of everybody is like. But I will say,

1055
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: I will say that it is important for organizations to

1056
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: know what they're ceiling is and know okay, we're not

1057
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: going to get that far with this group. So maybe

1058
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: that is a positive for them that they realized they

1059
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: weren't going to get to the mountaintop with that group

1060
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: and they got well, they did not technically bad choice,

1061
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: but that group is gone, So maybe this is an

1062
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: opportunity for some new fresh blood. But if I'm categorizing

1063
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: these teams as you go along, this is probably what

1064
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: I will do. Between contenders and pretenders, they're pretenders, They're

1065
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: they're not.

1066
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 2: That's fair. I would say the only two real contenders

1067
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: so far are Indiana and New York.

1068
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: In New York for sure, Yeah.

1069
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: Next we have the Sky eleventh in effective field goal percentage,

1070
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: ninth in pace, and tenth in that rating. So yeah,

1071
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: not very good. New coach coach marsh from the Aces,

1072
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: which I thought was a great hire. Key additions Cordy

1073
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 2: Vander Slut and Ariel Atkins, so I'm interested. This group

1074
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 2: is going to be interesting. I'm interested that Slute decided

1075
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: to go back to Chicago after winning a championship. That

1076
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: was an interesting move to me. And I was surprised

1077
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 2: to see Ariel leave the Mystics. I don't know why

1078
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: she left the mistake, I don't know what they got

1079
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 2: going on over there either. But some players don't want

1080
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: to be part of a rebuild, and that's completely valid

1081
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: and fair, Like I wouldn't. You're not for to waste

1082
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: my prime yere Is on a rebuild.

1083
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 1: I would love that as a rookie though. Yeah, for sure,

1084
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: I would love that as a rookie being able to

1085
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: play and not a high stakes environment, but you're still

1086
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: playing professionally against the best of the best and learning

1087
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: and getting your foot in without somebody being like, Okay,

1088
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: we're to trade you if this don't work out.

1089
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: So I mean, but Chicago kind of like kind of

1090
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: rebuilding right now too. Yeah, their core players will probably

1091
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: be Angel Camilla and Haley, so babies babies, right. I'm

1092
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: very interested to see what type of offense is implemented

1093
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: because they brought in some scoring, some outside scoring which

1094
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 2: they were severely lacking last year, and new coaching, new culture,

1095
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: coming from a championship culture at that so I don't

1096
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: foresee them trying to do that high low stuff again,

1097
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: the double big thing. Like, I'm very interested to see

1098
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: what teams that have that personnel actually try to do

1099
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 2: that double big thing. Because the thing about when you

1100
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 2: do double big lineups. At least one of them has

1101
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: to be versatile. They have to be able to bring

1102
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: the ball up, they got to be able to pass,

1103
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 2: and they got to be able to shoot. So you

1104
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: don't have that in any of the bigs in Chicago, respectfully,

1105
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 2: Like that's not a knock on them, it's just true.

1106
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: Camilla and Elizabeth are very interior post players, which is

1107
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: very important, but very hard to play a certain style

1108
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: with both of them on the court at the same time.

1109
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: Lexi, for our other basketball nerds listening, I'm curious because Angel, Camilla, Hailey,

1110
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: those are going to be big ticket names as we

1111
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: go through the season and as they go through their careers.

1112
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: But as far as on the court, they're actual fit.

1113
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: What you see coming out of that little trio. How

1114
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: is that going to look on the basketball court?

1115
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 2: I honestly think whoever plays best with Hailey is going

1116
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: to play more. Haley said in her press she does

1117
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: like I love playing with big players.

1118
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: Well, do you think that Angel has an advantage because

1119
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: they played with Obviously it was only one year, and

1120
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: that year, I mean, everybody points to it and says

1121
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: that you're terribly it didn't really work out, but they

1122
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: still they still.

1123
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 2: Did, they still want Yeah.

1124
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: So do you feel like Angel has an advantage in

1125
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: that way because she has played with Haley before?

1126
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 2: Or I feel like people shouldn't even bring that up.

1127
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 2: It's a completely different environment, it's a completely different situation,

1128
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 2: and they're both very different players than they were two

1129
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: years was it two years ago?

1130
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: Two years ago?

1131
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 2: You know, Haley got her confidence back, Angel got her

1132
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: swag in the w Like, it's gonna be a completely

1133
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 2: new experience for them playing and now you're playing for

1134
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: something different, like this is the pros now, like this

1135
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 2: ain't college like these aren't you not playing against little girls? No?

1136
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: More like you're playing against grown women. But again, Tyler,

1137
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: he's he's used to this very fast paced, running gun

1138
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: elite offense and style of play. So them being able

1139
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 2: to implement that with that group, like would be really

1140
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 2: cool to see because I do feel like a lot

1141
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: of people think that like that group is going to

1142
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 2: be very limited, and I feel like if they're open

1143
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: to learning and developing, that that group can be very

1144
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 2: special on both ends of the floor. I mean we

1145
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 2: didn't even get to the defensive side. I think defensively

1146
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 2: they could be a nightmare to play against, but you know,

1147
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 2: you got to score the ball to win, So it's

1148
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 2: gonna be like, who's who's gonna have to ball the most?

1149
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: Is gonna be the real question. Obviously, Ariel and Salute

1150
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 2: together like that's gonna be a one two punch that

1151
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 2: I'm very looking forward to see because playing with anybody

1152
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 2: that plays with Slute automatically is gonna be in a

1153
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 2: better situation on the floor at all positions because she's

1154
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 2: such a great point guard and she has such a

1155
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 2: feel for the game. And I think that's something that

1156
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 2: Chicago lacked last year, is they didn't have somebody that

1157
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 2: could just like control the game, like if it was

1158
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: getting a little out of control. They didn't have someone

1159
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 2: to be like, all right, let's chill out for a second,

1160
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: or we need this type of bucket, let's get this bucket,

1161
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: let's do this, let's do this. And I think Slut

1162
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 2: will bring that calmness to the to the group, which

1163
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 2: will be good because they're so young. And then Ariel

1164
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 2: can like she can give you thirty at any given night.

1165
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 2: So I mean, I think they're gonna be better than

1166
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: they were last year.

1167
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: I think so a lot of the discourse surrounding Angel

1168
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: specifically was double double queen rebounds, rebounds, rebounds, rebounds, rebounds,

1169
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: And obviously, as a fan of Angel that wants her

1170
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 1: to be great and don't want anybody to talk about her,

1171
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: I will say I want to see her finishing more

1172
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: as far as looking at her off season, and obviously

1173
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: y'all are only going to post the best parts of

1174
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: your workouts. But it seems like that's something that she's

1175
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: been really working on, so hopefully that improves. But that's

1176
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: something that I would like to a little nugget I

1177
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: would like to give this guy. I would like to

1178
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: see that.

1179
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean they were second to last and

1180
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: field goal percentage, Like that's not like that's a stat

1181
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: that is literally a statistic on the internet. They were

1182
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: second to last and affective field goal percentage, which is

1183
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 2: a combination of twos and threes, so they barely shot

1184
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: any threes. So that means you were very poor shooting twos.

1185
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 2: That's not good. You're not gonna win very many games

1186
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: being poor at both. So I think that her rebounding

1187
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: is still something that is like next level, very elite,

1188
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: like not a lot of people can do that, But

1189
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: will her rebounds potentially go down if she finishes a

1190
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: little bit better, Maybe they might, But that's not going

1191
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: to be like She's not going to be like I

1192
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: just hope the conversations hurt all. Look, she's not like.

1193
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: I just hope it doesn't have to be a negative thing.

1194
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: If you see improvement in her game, you see improvement

1195
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 2: in her game. But we don't know what that is

1196
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: going to look like necessarily, but there is gonna have

1197
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: to be an improvement as far as like finishing around

1198
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: the basket exactly.

1199
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: And I feel like one thing that you always say

1200
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: is obviously the double double stuff, and her rebounding is

1201
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: super early, and that's great, but if you're not putting

1202
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: the ball in the hoop, you're not going.

1203
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: On games exactly. So I mean, I'm really looking forward

1204
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 2: to this guy. You know, they're another team that kind

1205
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: of like cleaned house with it. Their whole team basically gone.

1206
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: So I'm really excited for them too. I'm always excited

1207
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: for a new coach, especially if new black coach. I know,

1208
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: that's right, always excited for that.

1209
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: Angel was hurt about their coaching change, though, and so

1210
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: I feel like they had to bring somebody in.

1211
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that could at least give them like confidence that

1212
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: like okay, like we're still we still got fa But

1213
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: he has, you know, an incredible background and one championships

1214
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 2: and has a really good reputation, So I think they're

1215
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 2: going to be better.

1216
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: One thing I want to clear though for those listening

1217
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: is we have said very similar things about you're gonna

1218
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: hate me about Connecticut in Chicago as far as they

1219
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: cleaned house and blah blah blah. But Connecticut they're not

1220
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: as young. No, they're not as young, so it's not

1221
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: the same thing. This is a true rebuild.

1222
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Connecticut is like out with the old day

1223
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 2: with the new like rip the band aid off. Chicago

1224
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 2: was like, I mean, it's hard to believe that we

1225
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 2: won a championship like three years ago. That is that

1226
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: is insane, Like it's like it happened, and then everyone's

1227
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: like whatever, who cares.

1228
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: But as you mentioned, the culture there when you want

1229
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: a championship was very It was vets trying to win literally,

1230
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: so it was kind of like, Okay, you got yours,

1231
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: and now we're planting this new seed and watering it

1232
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: so that we can have another group of vets. That

1233
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: want to win, that are ready for that.

1234
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 2: It's like basically what it was, and that's kind of

1235
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 2: basically what all the teams are doing right now is

1236
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: similar to what Chicago did that one year, was like

1237
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: we're finna win now and and we can figure everything

1238
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 2: else out later. Okay, so Sky, I foresee them having

1239
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 2: a much better season than they did last.

1240
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: Year, but they're still in my pretender's bucket.

1241
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 2: Sorry Chicago, That's okay, all right, Last, but not least,

1242
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 2: we have the Mystics fifth in effective field goal percentage,

1243
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: ninth in pace, tenth in net rating. New coach knew

1244
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: a lot of things. I think.

1245
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1246
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 2: They signed anybody in free agency, and then they have

1247
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 2: the seven million rookies that they drafted.

1248
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: Let's say shout out to my girl, Kei Ky you

1249
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: ate that dress up eight down, that jury in the house, honey.

1250
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: So honestly, I think the key returners, I guess we

1251
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 2: can just talk about step Dawson, Brittany Sykes, Shakira Austin

1252
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: which Shakira Sykes, they both have been dealing with like

1253
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 2: injuries a lot the last like one or two seasons,

1254
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 2: So I'm excited to see both of them healthy. They

1255
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 2: both played and Unrivaled both looked really good and Unrivaled. Oh,

1256
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 2: Steph played in Unrivaled too, So yeah, they've all been

1257
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 2: playing in all season. I think they are ready to

1258
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 2: win again. You know, the Mystics used to run the

1259
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 2: table for a little bit. Finally they can let Elena

1260
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 2: Dela don go because she officially announced her retirement, because

1261
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 2: I know that there was a part of their organization

1262
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 2: like she might come back, she might come back. So

1263
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 2: now they can officially like just move on, which I

1264
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: think is good.

1265
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 3: Especially with this new group of rookies coming in, Like.

1266
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 2: They might be the most rebuilding rebuild team.

1267
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 3: Right now for sure, like by long, sure sure.

1268
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: And I interviewed Kicky and she talked about that they're

1269
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: not They're expecting to be in a rebuilding kind of situation.

1270
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: It's not yeah, win now mode, because even their vets

1271
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 2: are pretty young, Like I mean, I would say Steph

1272
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 2: isn't considered super young, but like her psych Shakira, like

1273
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 2: they still like are on the young vet side, I

1274
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: feel like.

1275
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: So, I just also want to note that it's interesting

1276
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: that we started off this conversation by talking about the

1277
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: East West Conferences. Elimination in the W because if that

1278
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: were the case, if it was East West, I mean, damn,

1279
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: Like the West is significantly stronger.

1280
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is weird because like how does that keep happening.

1281
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 2: It's happened in the NBA, and the.

1282
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: W significantly stronger. And if that were the case, I

1283
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: would consider Indiana a real contender if it were East West,

1284
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: because they wouldn't really they'll be able to kind of

1285
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: clean the East up.

1286
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like I might agree with

1287
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 2: you there, but I think that DC is kind of

1288
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 2: in a similar situation as Connecticut, Like y'all have opportunity

1289
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 2: to build a new culture, new era, new style, new everything,

1290
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: and they do have some key vets that I've played

1291
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 2: a few seasons together to like hold everything down. So

1292
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: which'll be awesome for the rookies. Yeah, and again, like

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Speaker 2: I'm excited for the like this rookie group, like they

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01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 2: can like grow together, Like we just don't see that

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Speaker 2: in the WNBA, Like we don't see like two, three,

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Speaker 2: four rookies coming in together and figuring it out together

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Speaker 2: and whether it's successful or not, Like it's always nice

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01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: to see a great group of players like grow and

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Speaker 2: learn together. Which is again, white people love college so much.

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Speaker 2: And now, yeah, you're kind of seeing it more in

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Speaker 2: the NBA now, especially now that these teams are younger

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01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,439
Speaker 2: than some of the college teams playing. Like we're looking

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01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 2: at Houston, Okay, see who else is young?

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Speaker 1: Detroit?

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Speaker 2: Detroit, Like people are really invested in them because they've

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01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: we've watched them like grow and learn together. Like are

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01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: they gonna win championship? No, probably not, but the journey

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01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 2: is not this year, not this year, but they run

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01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 2: at the time is ticking.

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing about the w.

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Speaker 2: As well, is like everybody moves around so much, like

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Speaker 2: and then when it comes to the time to make

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01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 2: real decisions about salaries and contracts and salary cap like

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Speaker 2: it's all just like very random. Because by the thirty year,

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01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 2: second or third year, you already have moved you rookie

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01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 2: to a new team because she even give her a

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01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 2: chance to develop or she wasn't able to keep up.

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Speaker 2: But like, that's not what your pro career is about.

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01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: It's about development and growing and learning. Unless something just

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01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: horrible happened during the season and she must go, that's different,

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01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 2: but that's usually not the case.

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Speaker 1: But I want to before we go, ask you, as

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Speaker 1: far as I know, in the NBA, the MNBA, I

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Speaker 1: should say, they.

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Speaker 2: Don't get us kissling Mariah saying that shit, sorry, Lexi,

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Speaker 2: LEXI does not I do not say m NBA guys,

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01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 2: I know probably all would like me too. I'm very

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Speaker 2: much an NBA fan. I love NBA, so Mariah Maria

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01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 2: said it.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody knows that I am an NBA fan.

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01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: The point is, I feel like in the NBA, we

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01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: have seen ever since the Warriors dynasty, the formula for

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01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: winning a championship became smaller. The game got more outside, outside, outside, outside,

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01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: and some fancying it's boring. I absolutely love it. That's

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01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: my favorite. That's my favorite album. Aball to watch. But

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Speaker 1: that's either here nor there. In the W you mentioned

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01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: double Biggs in Atlanta and Chicago, that kind of situation.

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Speaker 1: What do you think that the recipe for success, whether

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01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: it's going to work or not, but like, what do

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01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: you think that these coaches and these organizations are seeing

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01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: as Okay, this is this is the style on the

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01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: W that everybody's kind of implementing.

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01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 2: I do think that more outside shooting is coming, which

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01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 2: makes me excited and very happy because at the end

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01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 2: of the day, threes are worth more than twos.

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01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 3: Like what like that is what it is.

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01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 2: From the last three or four championships, the best player

1348
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,479
Speaker 2: of the team has been that four. So I think

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01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 2: the key right now in the w is having a

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01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: really versatile foreman, and versutle can mean a lot of things.

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01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 2: That's why it's versatile. Like maybe they can shoot really well, Okay,

1352
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 2: maybe not. Maybe they can pass very well, maybe they

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01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 2: can bring the ball up, they can initiate offense like

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01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: what you would consider like a glue player, but they're

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01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 2: like super glue because they are also scoring the ball.

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01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 2: So I feel like, you know, you have the best

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01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 2: players in the league right now and a Fista Collier,

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01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 2: Ajia Wilson, Breonna Stewart, Neka Goloo McKay. I mean Natas

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01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: Shah Howard could reinsert herself in that conversation on this

1360
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 2: Indiana team, John cul Jones like these are what you

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01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 2: consider like the top players in the league right now.

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01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 2: And then directly under those players, I think are the

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01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 2: perimeter players that can hit outside shots. So the Arique's Jewel,

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Speaker 2: Lloyd Kelsey Plumb, Chelsea Gray, Jackie Young, me.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say Lexi Brown Hello.

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Speaker 2: So first I'll thank Arik because she was probably one

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01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 2: of the first players to come out and shoot all

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01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 2: them damn threes off the bounce, off the like all

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01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 2: the crazy shots. Jewel Lloyd I think has been more

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01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 2: of like a surgical score, you know, coming off of

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01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 2: pin Down's curls, like not as random as Arique's buckets.

1372
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 2: And then you bring in a Kaitlin Clark who's doing

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01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 2: all the logo, shooting off the bounce, coming off screens,

1374
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: pull up transition threes, like now everybody's like, okay, like

1375
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 2: this is what we can do, Like this is the

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01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 2: style of play that's gonna win you games.

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01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: But also facilitating because it's like you're drawing so much

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01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: attention to yourself that it confuses defenses. And if you

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01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: can facilitate and make plays, then you're dangerous.

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01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean, yes, you look at the Golden

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01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors has been the formula. You have elite

1382
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 2: scores from the perimeter, and then you have your glue man.

1383
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 2: So the Draymonds of the world like, but I feel

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01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 2: like that position in the w is more offensively gifted

1385
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 2: than what you would call the Draymonds of the NBA,

1386
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 2: which because there's so much perimeter scoring now, like that

1387
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 2: person doesn't necessarily have to score. Also, they have more time,

1388
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 2: Like there's just so many different things in the NBA

1389
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 2: that are different from the WNBA, Like we had more

1390
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 2: time to play, more people would be scoring. But because

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01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 2: that position right now is so versatile and so good

1392
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 2: gifted offensively, and then just a matchup nightmare. Like they're

1393
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 2: just like kind of the key piece. So the fore

1394
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 2: man has been the key to WNBA six access. Now

1395
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 2: there's some shooters around them, very hard to guard, very

1396
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 2: hard to guard.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the.

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01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 2: Force, Shout out to the four.

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Speaker 1: Well, Lexi, I'm really excited for next week because I'm

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01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: about to come with stuff to say about these last teams.

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01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'll have a nice little update for our

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01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: first day of training camp because it'll be the day

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01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 2: after camp.

1404
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: When are we going to have ours our Lexi's goals

1405
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,759
Speaker 1: show right before the season starts, like at the beginning

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01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: of Bay.

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01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, right before our first actual game, not our preseason games,

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01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 2: our first actual games, so I can actually put together

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01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 2: a realistic list. Yeah, you know, Okay, because I want

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01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 2: us to be able to check these goals off. I

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01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 2: don't want to end the season and nothing is checked

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01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 2: because I've made goals that didn't make any sense.

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01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: I will say. When I was working for the Atlanta Hawks,

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01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: I was on the social team and we did this

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01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 1: thing where the players would write down their goals for

1416
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: the season on the little poolaroid to be cute to

1417
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: put them on our Instagram, and the whole starting five

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01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 1: did it, and so obviously everybody put win a championship

1419
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: as their goal, except for Capella, who put go to

1420
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: the conference titles and everybody. They tore us up in

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01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: the comments. Tore us he was so mad about at

1422
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: the social team for posting that. He was so mad,

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01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: But I was like, you say, right, I mean, and

1424
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 1: he was probably the most realistic out of everybody.

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01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, like what y'all want them to lie about

1426
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 2: their goals just so y'all can make fun of them

1427
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 2: if they don't get the championship, because they all.

1428
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 3: Knew they wasn't gonna get going. So so funny, that's

1429
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 3: really funny.

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01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I hope y'all enjoyed our little breakdown of

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01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference and the WNBA. We're really excited for

1432
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 2: next week to get into the West and this season

1433
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 2: is going to be really fun. But thank y'all for

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01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 2: tuning in again. I hope you guys enjoyed it. We

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Speaker 2: will see y'all next week on the Full Circle podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Full Circle. We'll be back next

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01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,799
Speaker 1: week with more basketball for the Girls, by the girls.

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01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,880
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01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,439
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01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,920
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01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: Brown and Mariah Rose. Our executive producer is Jesse Katz.

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01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Grace Fuse. Our producer is Zoe Danklab.

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