WEBVTT - NBC4 Chopper Tragedy (09/16)

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM 640, you're listening to the John Kobelt Podcast

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for being here today on KFI AM 640. We

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<v Speaker 2>are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. My name is

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Shane. I'm in today for John Kobelt, who's taking

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<v Speaker 2>a little time off. It is my pleasure to be

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<v Speaker 2>here on what is a very sad day for the

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<v Speaker 2>media family, for a lot of folks in the Los

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<v Speaker 2>Angeles area. With what happened to an NBC4 news helicopter,

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<v Speaker 2>two members of the NBC4 news team on board have perished.

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<v Speaker 2>They have died. The NTSB is in Los Angeles investigating

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<v Speaker 2>the crash. And we're going to begin right away. We

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<v Speaker 2>are joined on the live line by Conan Nolan, who

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<v Speaker 2>is with NBC4, has been there for many, many years.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you're aware of Conan and his work. Conan,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for joining us, first of all. Our sympathies

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<v Speaker 2>and our condolences to you and the entire NBC4 News team.

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<v Speaker 2>This has to be a very difficult day for you.

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<v Speaker 3>It certainly is. Never, you know, I've been at this.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for that, for one thing. And, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>just recently celebrated my 40th year here at NBC in

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles and never had a day like yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you know about what happened? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>any clearer to you now than it was when it happened? No.

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<v Speaker 3>NTSB has suggested that– has come out and said that

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<v Speaker 3>we weren't on the air with that helicopter. That is

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<v Speaker 3>not on the linear broadcast, but we were streaming it

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<v Speaker 3>on the website. And so we have the last 30 seconds,

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<v Speaker 3>40 seconds. The camera is on the bus accident, which

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<v Speaker 3>itself claimed three lives. And then you start to hear

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<v Speaker 3>what appears to be the engine winding down and the

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<v Speaker 3>rotators riding down. The cockpit, there's an alarm that goes

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<v Speaker 3>off when the rotation of the blades are not sufficient

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<v Speaker 3>to keep the airship essentially stable.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, in the air.

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<v Speaker 3>And, uh, and the NTSB has said that is the

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<v Speaker 3>critical piece of evidence they're trying to get. And we

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<v Speaker 3>have a, we have, we have the copy that they're

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<v Speaker 3>looking for, um, uh, a recorded copy. The, we just

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<v Speaker 3>spoke with a former NTSB aviation, uh, investigator who works

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<v Speaker 3>at USC, um, at their aviation accident school. And he

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<v Speaker 3>said clearly, the alarm went off. You could hear the

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<v Speaker 3>rotators starting to wind down. The pilot, George, he utters something.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that Eliana, you can hear her say, uh-oh.

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<v Speaker 3>And How that happened, it appears as well that the–

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<v Speaker 3>according to the investigators, that the nose of the aircraft

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<v Speaker 3>started to go down. That may be consistent with the

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<v Speaker 3>pilot trying to seek some wind velocity to give him

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<v Speaker 3>an attempt at an autorotate where you don't need the engine,

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<v Speaker 3>but the propellers or the blades can– can retard sort

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<v Speaker 3>of the descent to give it the chance for a

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<v Speaker 3>softer landing. That obviously wasn't achieved. So we don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what happened. We will find out in about 30 days

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<v Speaker 3>on a preliminary report. Fundamental to the investigation is this videotape.

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<v Speaker 3>And then although it burned, it was a fireball, they

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't even recover the tail number. But the engine itself,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're pretty confident they'll be able to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out if there was some impediment that got in the

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<v Speaker 3>way of the fuel line that starved it of the

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<v Speaker 3>fuel that needed to stay airborne or what happened. But

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<v Speaker 3>it was a catastrophic failure. And in just a few moments,

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<v Speaker 3>and it took the lives of our colleagues, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was quite devastating. We very much are interested to know

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<v Speaker 3>what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I can only imagine what it was like inside the

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<v Speaker 2>NBC4 newsroom. I know that other news stations had their

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<v Speaker 2>helicopters above that crash. Can you kind of take us

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<v Speaker 2>to what it was like, take us through what it

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<v Speaker 2>was like to be in the newsroom? When did you

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<v Speaker 2>realize that there was something that went very, very wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we had heard that there had been an explosion

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<v Speaker 3>from our crews on the ground covering the Metro bus crash.

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<v Speaker 3>And they saw an explosion. And then we immediately looked

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<v Speaker 3>up and to the bank of monitors where we monitor

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<v Speaker 3>our competitors, ABC, CBS, Fox, all the other stations. And

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<v Speaker 3>they had an airship up on the Metro bus crash,

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<v Speaker 3>but we didn't have ours up. And immediately, and from

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<v Speaker 3>what I understand, reporters in the field knew it was

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<v Speaker 3>an air crash, and they just went to each other saying,

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<v Speaker 3>was it yours, was it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yours, was it yours?

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<v Speaker 3>And we didn't know it was ours. We saw the

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<v Speaker 3>other stations had, because it was a short distance away

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<v Speaker 3>from the Metro bus crash, they could immediately were able

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<v Speaker 3>to put that image on their air and we could

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<v Speaker 3>see that there was an airship that was down and

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<v Speaker 3>engulfed in flames. We could see the rotors. And then

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<v Speaker 3>we looked for, then we tried to get a hold of,

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<v Speaker 3>we tried to get a hold of Eliana and George

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<v Speaker 3>and couldn't. And so that's when this deep, deep, horrific

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<v Speaker 3>feeling started to engulf the nation.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got about a minute, excuse me, about a minute left, Conan.

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<v Speaker 2>These two individuals, Eliana and George, do you have any

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<v Speaker 2>memories that stand out? What can you tell us about them?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I didn't know George, the pilot, 70 years old.

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<v Speaker 3>From what I'm told, he was a local guy, Burbank

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<v Speaker 3>High School, loved to fly, highly regarded. Eliana Marano, I

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<v Speaker 3>did know her. She's also a local girl, early 30s,

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<v Speaker 3>just engaged to get married, graduated from Chapman University, went

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<v Speaker 3>back frequently to talk to students there. She loved what

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<v Speaker 3>she did. There is a risk in anything in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of aviation. There's love in labor, and she loved what

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<v Speaker 3>she did. She was also.

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<v Speaker 3>For us, we are a dual duopoly. There's an English

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<v Speaker 3>language station and Telemundo 52. She was completely bilingual and

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<v Speaker 3>she was a joy to work with. And the loss

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<v Speaker 3>is sort of staggering. So we're still trying to process that.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're not, as you well know, we're not in

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<v Speaker 3>the business of emoting. That's not our job. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think the public can understand just how heartbreaking this is,

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<v Speaker 3>not just for us. But somebody else died on a pedestrian,

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<v Speaker 3>died in that crash on the ground, not to mention

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<v Speaker 3>three others in the bus crash. So all in all,

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<v Speaker 3>it was six Angolinos lost their lives yesterday. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a really bad day.

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<v Speaker 2>Conan, I want to thank you so much for taking

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<v Speaker 2>the time and giving us your insight. And again, our

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<v Speaker 2>sympathies and our thoughts are with you. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate that. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Conan Nolan from NBC4. We're going to move forward and

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<v Speaker 2>pick up on some of the newest and latest information.

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<v Speaker 2>We are joined now by Will Kohlsheiber. He is a

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles Hub iHeartMedia Total Traffic and Weather Network reporter.

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<v Speaker 2>And Will, I know that you as a traffic reporter

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<v Speaker 2>have spent some time in a helicopter. I have as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in the day when I was doing television news

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<v Speaker 2>for many, many years, I would go up in a

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<v Speaker 2>helicopter and I would go up in a helicopter You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've told people about this before. The views sometimes can

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<v Speaker 2>be absolutely spectacular. But, you know, in those helicopters, you

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<v Speaker 2>bounce around a lot. And I never felt altogether comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>in a helicopter, period. But it can be really a.

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<v Speaker 5>Frightful experience. But tell us a little bit about your experiences. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, good afternoon, by the way, Sam. Thank you

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<v Speaker 5>so much. You realize how small you are when you're

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<v Speaker 5>up in a helicopter. You're really small, especially over a

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<v Speaker 5>large thing like a big brush fire or something like

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<v Speaker 5>that when you're incredibly high up. You just feel like

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<v Speaker 5>a little speck, a little fly getting bounced around. You're

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely correct.

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<v Speaker 4>You're kind of at the whims of Mother Nature. I,

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<v Speaker 4>before I was at KFI, I was several years ago,

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<v Speaker 4>spent several years in this helicopter, the exact helicopter that crashed,

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<v Speaker 4>doing exactly what she was doing, running the camera and

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<v Speaker 4>reporting over things. And, you know, this is just one

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<v Speaker 4>of those things that's in the back of your mind. Mind,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're in that backseat, that can happen. Sometimes you

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<v Speaker 4>let your mind wander a little bit and you think

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<v Speaker 4>all the scenarios that could happen. And unfortunately for Eliana

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<v Speaker 4>and George yesterday, that's exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Will, you were in that exact helicopter, you said.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever experience any problems in that helicopter?

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing like that. No, certainly not. You know, there'd be

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<v Speaker 4>mostly weather-related types of things. We'd end up in situations

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<v Speaker 4>where I'd I would think privately to myself, boy, I

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<v Speaker 4>really wish we weren't here today, but nothing. And usually

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<v Speaker 4>having to do with the weather, but that was not

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<v Speaker 4>the case this time. You know, the first thing I'd

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<v Speaker 4>heard about this situation yesterday was that just awful tape

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<v Speaker 4>that was online showing, you know, the last few seconds and,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the thing, the thing that, that keeps really

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<v Speaker 4>banging around in my head is just how, how quickly

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<v Speaker 4>everything went wrong. It was, you know, everything was fine.

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<v Speaker 4>They were in a hover and then 30 seconds later,

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<v Speaker 4>it was all over.

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<v Speaker 5>Right. Right. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I was struck by that as well. It seems to

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<v Speaker 2>me like there was some, it seems, I mean, just

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<v Speaker 2>from watching that, well, like there may have been some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a mechanical failure of some sort. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>really know. NTSB I know is in town and they're investigating.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, a hundred percent. Uh, I mean, based on what

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<v Speaker 4>I saw and heard, you know, you hear the alarm horn, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>the beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.

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<v Speaker 5>And, uh, you know, you hear the.

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<v Speaker 4>Engine first, it goes up really high, seems to, and

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<v Speaker 4>then it goes down really low. And, and you hear

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<v Speaker 4>Eliana as, as Conan mentioned, uh, shout something like, are

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<v Speaker 4>you able to pull up? Are you able to pull up?

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<v Speaker 4>And he's obviously not. And it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 5>Seem– I mean, they weren't moving.

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<v Speaker 4>They were in a dead hover. So it's not like

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<v Speaker 4>he was doing something or the aircraft was not necessarily

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<v Speaker 4>moving anywhere. So it sounded like something– catastrophically went wrong

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<v Speaker 4>in the engine as far as possibly the fuel or

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<v Speaker 4>the systems that govern the fuel.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I once upon a time, I was speaking

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<v Speaker 2>with a pilot, a helicopter pilot about that job. And

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<v Speaker 2>he said to me that there was an old adage

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<v Speaker 2>among helicopter pilots that you have, there's a number that

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<v Speaker 2>every helicopter pilot has his or her number. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you hit that number that you don't want to hit

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<v Speaker 2>that number. In other words, You know every time you

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<v Speaker 2>go up in one of those airships, that could be it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if pilots deal with that or if

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<v Speaker 2>you dealt with that when you were flying.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, it is always something kind of in

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<v Speaker 4>the back of your mind sometimes. When you're over a

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<v Speaker 4>story for a long time, you might let your mind

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<v Speaker 4>wander scenarios, what could go wrong. But honestly, for so

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<v Speaker 4>many of the guys, it is a job. And many, many,

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<v Speaker 4>many pilots will go their entire career without any incident

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<v Speaker 4>whatsoever or at least nothing major. And aircraft literally, as

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<v Speaker 4>their lifetimes go on, they're basically– replaced several times over

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<v Speaker 4>as far as parts. This aircraft does not have anywhere

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<v Speaker 4>close to the same engine it had when it was

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<v Speaker 4>originally made. Everything gets replaced. And so this is just

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<v Speaker 4>a situation where something really went wrong and Hopefully this investor,

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<v Speaker 4>it's hard to imagine that they'll be able to make

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<v Speaker 4>sense of what was left after that fire, but they're professionals.

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<v Speaker 4>They know how to do that, and hopefully they will.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, thank you very much. Really appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>taking the time and the insight telling us about your experiences. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>really appreciate it. He was in the very same helicopter

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<v Speaker 2>once upon a time earlier in his career. He's with

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<v Speaker 2>the Los Angeles Hub iHeartMedia Total Traffic and Weather Network

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<v Speaker 2>as a reporter, and we appreciate his time. Um, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot I want to get to here coming up

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<v Speaker 2>on the, uh, the other side of the break, other

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<v Speaker 2>news out there, a number one TMZ with a very

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<v Speaker 2>interesting report out there indicating that very likely Paramount has

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<v Speaker 2>made a decision that they are going to leave California.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to get into some of that reporting

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<v Speaker 2>that's out there. There isn't a ton, but what they

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<v Speaker 2>do have, I want to dive into. And also a

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<v Speaker 2>big announcement out of, uh, The federal government in Washington, D.C.,

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<v Speaker 2>some big arrests in Southern California in the Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 2>region having to do with the homeless crisis and with

0:14:32.250 --> 0:14:37.229
<v Speaker 2>LASA and with allegations of fraud and corruption, potentially money laundering,

0:14:37.630 --> 0:14:41.130
<v Speaker 2>some very serious allegations, how this is all tied together potentially.

0:14:41.650 --> 0:14:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Mayor Karen Bass could be part of this, has not

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<v Speaker 2>been named, but nevertheless, we're going to draw all this,

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<v Speaker 2>tie all of this together for you straight ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>Listening to John Kobelt on demand from KFI AM 640.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Sam Shane. I'm in for John Kobelt.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to be here. Always great to work with John's crew.

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<v Speaker 2>They're a fantastic group and a lot to get into.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to turn the page and get into some

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<v Speaker 2>other news of the day. I want to get into,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've seen this report. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>report out of TMZ at this hour that they've made

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<v Speaker 2>a decision at Paramount that they're going to leave and

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<v Speaker 2>they've notified the mayor's office. They've notified the attorney general's office.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to get into some of that, how

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<v Speaker 2>that stands right now and where any type of negotiation

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<v Speaker 2>might be underway. Maybe there might be a settlement in

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<v Speaker 2>the works, maybe not. So many details. I already got

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<v Speaker 2>some reaction on that, by the way, from someone listening

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<v Speaker 2>on the iHeartRadio app to the program. So we'll roll

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<v Speaker 2>that out for you momentarily. But before we do that,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get out into this news coming out

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<v Speaker 2>of Washington, D.C., which has a direct impact on Los Angeles. U.S.

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Justice has announced now the arrest of two

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<v Speaker 2>people employed at the Los Angeles area homeless nonprofits on

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<v Speaker 2>federal charges alleging misuse of millions of taxpayer dollars. A

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<v Speaker 2>third defendant remains a fugitive. So one of the defendants

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<v Speaker 2>is the co-founder of a Culver City-based nonprofit allegedly misappropriated

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<v Speaker 2>more than $ 7. 5 million and used the money for commercial

0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.490
<v Speaker 2>real estate and to finance the construction of a nightclub

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<v Speaker 2>in and a bingo hall, according to the Department of Justice. Another,

0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:26.160
<v Speaker 2>the fugitive, has been accused of being fraudulently awarded more

0:16:26.180 --> 0:16:29.230
<v Speaker 2>than a million dollars in grant money from an L.A.

0:16:29.270 --> 0:16:33.970
<v Speaker 2>County-funded nonprofit. And then this third person, identified by federal

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<v Speaker 2>officials as an employee of a nonprofit health and human

0:16:38.130 --> 0:16:42.860
<v Speaker 2>services organization, who has been arrested on a 21-count indictment,

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<v Speaker 2>charges that.

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<v Speaker 2>She was taking more than $ 180, 000 in bribes from a

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<v Speaker 2>fourth person who's being charged separately and has already agreed

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<v Speaker 2>to a plea deal. So obviously there is one who's

0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:04.740
<v Speaker 2>been charged who sounds like they are cooperating. This has

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<v Speaker 2>to go to nonprofits. This has to go to NGOs.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about that in a moment and

0:17:10.140 --> 0:17:12.950
<v Speaker 2>why that system absolutely needs to get cleaned up. It's dirty.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll get into that in a moment. But we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to spell this all out for you with an

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<v Speaker 2>audio clip. And we rewind just a couple of days now.

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<v Speaker 5>L.A.

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<v Speaker 2>Mayor Karen Bass just suddenly stepped down from LAFSA. This

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<v Speaker 2>was a few days ago. You may recall this story. Okay, LAFSA,

0:17:30.460 --> 0:17:32.520
<v Speaker 2>they're the ones that oversee the whole homeless program in

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<v Speaker 2>the city of Los Angeles. Well, today, the Secretary of HUD,

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Turner, revealed $ 75 million of fraud, he says, was

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<v Speaker 2>laundered through LAFSA.

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<v Speaker 7>These fraudsters received over $ 130 million. More than $ 75 million

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<v Speaker 7>of those were funneled through the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority,

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<v Speaker 7>also known as LASA. That is nearly the same amount

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<v Speaker 7>Lassa received from HUD every year until the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 7>put an end to the California corruption. Lassa has continually

0:18:08.350 --> 0:18:12.380
<v Speaker 7>funded a homeless industrial complex on the backs of American

0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:17.780
<v Speaker 7>taxpayers while fraud has continually run rampant. No wonder their

0:18:17.859 --> 0:18:21.720
<v Speaker 7>track record at Lhasa is a failing record. While homelessness

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<v Speaker 7>funding tripled in LA over the past decade, homelessness has doubled.

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<v Speaker 7>And when you dig deeper, we found out why. Lhasa,

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<v Speaker 7>the largest recipient of homeless funding in the nation, is

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<v Speaker 7>riddled with fraud, waste, and abuse. And those days of

0:18:38.770 --> 0:18:43.270
<v Speaker 7>blank checks are indeed over. Today, those who broke the

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<v Speaker 7>law are facing the ultimate consequence, law and order.

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<v Speaker 2>This may just be the beginning, folks. The feds clearly

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<v Speaker 2>are focused on Lhasa. And here you have, just a

0:18:54.340 --> 0:18:57.140
<v Speaker 2>few days ago, the mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Bass,

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<v Speaker 2>stepping aside. Earlier this week, she, by the way, was

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<v Speaker 2>invited earlier this week to testify before a subcommittee in

0:19:04.750 --> 0:19:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Congress on this very topic, on homelessness. on the millions

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<v Speaker 2>and millions of dollars that have just somehow mysteriously disappeared,

0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:18.149
<v Speaker 2>how the crisis keeps getting worse, not better. And her

0:19:18.190 --> 0:19:20.489
<v Speaker 2>attorney sent a letter to Congress and said, no, she

0:19:20.530 --> 0:19:23.470
<v Speaker 2>won't be there for that. They've also asked for documentation.

0:19:23.510 --> 0:19:27.590
<v Speaker 2>They say that they will cooperate. Here, Karen Bass's office

0:19:27.650 --> 0:19:31.300
<v Speaker 2>has indicated that they will cooperate. But this is very problematic.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to focus in more on this, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get locked in on this And there could

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<v Speaker 2>be more to come. And it has to do with

0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:44.230
<v Speaker 2>the nonprofits. It has to do with the NGOs and

0:19:44.270 --> 0:19:48.390
<v Speaker 2>a system which is filled with corruption. And there's money

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<v Speaker 2>that's being funneled into enslavement. around these NGOs and nonprofits

0:19:53.990 --> 0:19:57.660
<v Speaker 2>for reasons that we don't really know. Like the spouse

0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:01.260
<v Speaker 2>of a politician who all of a sudden receives $ 25, 000

0:20:00.940 --> 0:20:04.480
<v Speaker 2>or their friend who runs the NGO or the nonprofit

0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:07.080
<v Speaker 2>who's the CEO who all of a sudden is making

0:20:07.140 --> 0:20:09.780
<v Speaker 2>a six-figure salary. But the money's not getting to the

0:20:09.820 --> 0:20:13.500
<v Speaker 2>people who really need it. And this is a system

0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:20.179
<v Speaker 2>which needs attention soon to be cleaned up. TMZ, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to get into this reporting. This has to do

0:20:22.340 --> 0:20:28.000
<v Speaker 2>with Paramount. Headline. L.A. and state officials say the studio

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<v Speaker 2>is leaving California. This is according to TMZ. Internal discussions

0:20:32.100 --> 0:20:34.440
<v Speaker 2>in the Los Angeles mayor's office and the California attorney

0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:38.239
<v Speaker 2>general's office. They've been told Paramount would announce that they

0:20:38.290 --> 0:20:41.409
<v Speaker 2>are leaving California. But there is a twist, according to

0:20:41.470 --> 0:20:46.750
<v Speaker 2>sources who tells that to TMZ. TMZ reports, we're told

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<v Speaker 2>the mayor and the AG were told the announcement would

0:20:49.890 --> 0:20:53.670
<v Speaker 2>come yesterday, but did not happen. We do not know

0:20:53.770 --> 0:20:58.580
<v Speaker 2>if circumstances changed. or if there was a delay. As

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<v Speaker 2>you probably are aware, TMZ reports the California Attorney General

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<v Speaker 2>and others within 11 other state attorneys general have filed

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<v Speaker 2>this antitrust lawsuit, of course, against Paramount trying to block

0:21:11.330 --> 0:21:14.210
<v Speaker 2>the Warner Brothers merger. And then you have David Ellison.

0:21:14.250 --> 0:21:16.649
<v Speaker 2>He's the CEO of Paramount. He has threatened to move

0:21:16.690 --> 0:21:21.699
<v Speaker 2>the studio to Texas or Tennessee, maybe even Georgia, if

0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:25.420
<v Speaker 2>the California Attorney Attorney General Rob Bonta does not back

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<v Speaker 2>off and settle. Ellison has threatened to leave California if

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<v Speaker 2>a settlement was not reached by October 1st. We're talking

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<v Speaker 2>weeks now. TMZ reports, based on conversations in both the

0:21:36.700 --> 0:21:40.200
<v Speaker 2>mayor's and attorney general's offices, it sounds like no deal

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<v Speaker 2>is possible. If Paramount pulls the trigger, TMZ writes, it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a devastating one-two punch for Hollywood. I don't know

0:21:50.130 --> 0:21:53.320
<v Speaker 2>if you've heard this story, but American Idol... That's been

0:21:53.340 --> 0:21:58.020
<v Speaker 2>announced today, leaving Hollywood for Atlanta. Other productions have also

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<v Speaker 2>left Hollywood over the past few years. TMZ reached out

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<v Speaker 2>to Paramount, and they offered no comment. Stay tuned to

0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:08.850
<v Speaker 2>that one. I've got some reaction from a listener on

0:22:08.869 --> 0:22:11.070
<v Speaker 2>that that I want to get to on the other

0:22:11.090 --> 0:22:13.270
<v Speaker 2>side who's been listening on the iHeartRadio app, which, by

0:22:13.290 --> 0:22:14.750
<v Speaker 2>the way, if you want to weigh in and you're

0:22:14.770 --> 0:22:16.930
<v Speaker 2>listening on the iHeartRadio app, all you have to do

0:22:17.710 --> 0:22:20.190
<v Speaker 2>is tap on the red microphone button. You can record

0:22:20.210 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 2>your message there. And we'll be playing those throughout the

0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:25.820
<v Speaker 2>program today. My name is Sam Shane. I'm in for

0:22:25.859 --> 0:22:27.900
<v Speaker 2>John Kobold. It is good to be here today. When

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<v Speaker 2>we come back, apparently there's some new reporting out there

0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:34.280
<v Speaker 2>in a new interview. Governor Wilson has come out and

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:38.359
<v Speaker 2>said that he regrets closing public schools during COVID. So

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<v Speaker 2>we'll tell you the source of that information coming up

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to John Kobold on demand from KFI AM 640.

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<v Speaker 2>Got an interesting clip. from this interview between CNN's Jake

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<v Speaker 2>Tapper and Governor Newsom. They were fly fishing in Montana.

0:22:55.900 --> 0:22:57.860
<v Speaker 2>Apparently this was done about a month ago, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a clip out there, apparently, where Governor Newsom

0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:05.439
<v Speaker 2>says that he regrets shutting down public schools during COVID.

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:07.340
<v Speaker 2>So I want to get to that in just a second.

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<v Speaker 2>We're getting some reaction coming in from people who have

0:23:09.500 --> 0:23:12.350
<v Speaker 2>been listening to the program on the iHeartRadio app and

0:23:12.380 --> 0:23:13.909
<v Speaker 2>have left us a couple of messages. And I want

0:23:13.950 --> 0:23:15.710
<v Speaker 2>to get to those. It has to do with the

0:23:15.810 --> 0:23:19.270
<v Speaker 2>story that I just reported from TMZ that Paramount has

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<v Speaker 2>made the decision to leave No comment officially from Paramount,

0:23:22.820 --> 0:23:25.940
<v Speaker 2>but apparently there are some sources that tell TMZ from

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<v Speaker 2>inside L.A. Mayor Karen Bass' office and from the Attorney

0:23:29.250 --> 0:23:31.629
<v Speaker 2>General's office that that is indeed the case, that they

0:23:31.650 --> 0:23:36.510
<v Speaker 2>were given that notification as recently as yesterday. So some

0:23:36.530 --> 0:23:38.790
<v Speaker 2>of the reaction that's coming in here, here's just one.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, if that's true that Paramount's leaving, well, that's only

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<v Speaker 8>great news. California deserves it. They are not business friendly.

0:23:49.580 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 8>And good luck to them. And whoever wants to work

0:23:52.500 --> 0:23:54.220
<v Speaker 8>for them, maybe they're going to be leaving with them.

0:23:55.700 --> 0:24:04.090
<v Speaker 8>California has done it again. And for what? Have a

0:24:04.109 --> 0:24:04.750
<v Speaker 8>nice day, you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's not just a Hollywood story, right? I mean,

0:24:09.270 --> 0:24:12.210
<v Speaker 2>this is a story that has crossed industries, not just

0:24:12.250 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 2>the entertainment industry. Boy, if you just take a look

0:24:15.380 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 2>at all of the businesses that have up and left

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:20.680
<v Speaker 2>from Tesla to Charles Schwab, and the different categories. They've

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:24.500
<v Speaker 2>moved their headquarters out. And the erosion continues. There's no

0:24:24.540 --> 0:24:26.619
<v Speaker 2>question about it. Got some more reaction to that story

0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:28.540
<v Speaker 2>from another listener listening on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, Sam, first of all, I don't blame Paramount for

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:35.100
<v Speaker 9>leaving because Bonta and Newsom are sticking their beaks where

0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:37.880
<v Speaker 9>it doesn't belong. So they just gave up a lot

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 9>of jobs and a lot of tax money in California

0:24:40.260 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 9>because they want to control everything. OK, that's on Newsom

0:24:44.060 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 9>and Bonta. And as far as the fraud goes, what

0:24:46.540 --> 0:24:48.580
<v Speaker 9>do you know? Bonta is not doing anything about it.

0:24:48.580 --> 0:24:50.939
<v Speaker 9>The federal government does it because Rob Bonta says he

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:54.380
<v Speaker 9>has it under control. Him and Newsom are beyond buffoonery.

0:24:54.609 --> 0:24:55.909
<v Speaker 9>I'm glad I left California.

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<v Speaker 2>OK, so that listener is out and he makes a

0:24:59.450 --> 0:25:01.370
<v Speaker 2>very good point about how the state has not been

0:25:01.410 --> 0:25:05.149
<v Speaker 2>aggressively investigating any of the corruption and fraud that we

0:25:05.210 --> 0:25:07.790
<v Speaker 2>are seeing. Look, the feds have locked in on this,

0:25:07.869 --> 0:25:08.929
<v Speaker 2>and this is where we're going to get a lot

0:25:08.950 --> 0:25:11.550
<v Speaker 2>of the answers and more of the deep investigation. I've

0:25:11.570 --> 0:25:14.170
<v Speaker 2>heard from a number of people saying, well, you know,

0:25:15.010 --> 0:25:19.130
<v Speaker 2>there's been no proof that there's any corruption or fraud

0:25:19.390 --> 0:25:24.409
<v Speaker 2>in voting or financially. Well, no, not if you don't investigate.

0:25:24.630 --> 0:25:26.129
<v Speaker 2>If you don't investigate a crime, what are you going

0:25:26.150 --> 0:25:29.750
<v Speaker 2>to find? So that's where we are now. We are

0:25:29.790 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 2>beginning to just see this for the very first time.

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:36.159
<v Speaker 2>And it's thanks to exposure from a lot of independent journalists,

0:25:36.180 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 2>by the way, people like Nick Shirley and James O'Keefe,

0:25:39.780 --> 0:25:42.830
<v Speaker 2>who have produced incredible videos from Southern California along Skid

0:25:42.910 --> 0:25:48.070
<v Speaker 2>Row and other places, hospice centers, showing the allegations of fraud,

0:25:48.109 --> 0:25:51.609
<v Speaker 2>voter fraud, financial fraud. And now all of a sudden,

0:25:51.950 --> 0:25:55.669
<v Speaker 2>we're getting some serious investigations and some serious results of

0:25:55.690 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 2>the investigations, not just in Los Angeles, also in places

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:03.970
<v Speaker 2>like San Diego. Just this week, within the past couple

0:26:03.990 --> 0:26:07.510
<v Speaker 2>of days, here's another story. Twelve San Diego County residents

0:26:07.910 --> 0:26:11.489
<v Speaker 2>facing federal fraud charges after a probe revealed that more

0:26:11.510 --> 0:26:15.570
<v Speaker 2>than $ 10 million intended to help low-income families pay for

0:26:15.670 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 2>child care was instead funneled to fake daycare providers, according

0:26:21.060 --> 0:26:25.780
<v Speaker 2>to federal authorities. 250 federal, state, and local enforcement officials

0:26:26.380 --> 0:26:30.980
<v Speaker 2>arrested dozens of defendants. Twelve search warrants were issued. Homes

0:26:31.020 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 2>that were We were told were being used as daycares.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not so much. According to the Department of Justice,

0:26:38.540 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 2>defendants obtained a California license to operate a home child

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:45.500
<v Speaker 2>care facility, registered it with the Child Development Associates and

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:49.970
<v Speaker 2>the YMCA to provide subsidized child care to eligible families.

0:26:50.450 --> 0:26:53.650
<v Speaker 2>But the DOJ goes on to say the defendants knowingly

0:26:53.730 --> 0:26:57.570
<v Speaker 2>submitted false attendance records claiming they provided child care on

0:26:57.609 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 2>dates and times when they did not. and they go

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 2>on to say the DOJ does, several defendants submitted attendance

0:27:04.660 --> 0:27:07.300
<v Speaker 2>records claiming that they have provided childcare at their homes

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 2>when border crossing records show they were not even in

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:15.140
<v Speaker 2>the U.S. The defendants are both naturalized U.S. citizens and

0:27:15.700 --> 0:27:20.850
<v Speaker 2>lawful permanent residents from places like Syria, Somalia, Sudan, Afghanistan,

0:27:20.890 --> 0:27:26.670
<v Speaker 2>and Iraq. Two big announcements from the Trump administration investigating

0:27:26.750 --> 0:27:31.980
<v Speaker 2>fraud and corruption and allegations of money missing in like

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<v Speaker 2>a two-day period, focusing on Southern California. Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting clip that I want to get to. You

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<v Speaker 2>may have seen the clip between Jake Sullivan, the CNN host,

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<v Speaker 2>and Governor Newsom fly fishing in Montana, where Governor Newsom

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<v Speaker 2>tells Jake Tapper, yeah, I'm not going to run for

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<v Speaker 2>president if Kamala Harris decides to run. So that's been

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<v Speaker 2>all over the place. It's about a two-minute clip, and

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<v Speaker 2>they go back and forth. But there's more to this interview.

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<v Speaker 2>And as part of this new interview, Governor Newsom admits

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<v Speaker 2>that he regrets closing California public schools during the COVID pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>And CNN host Jake Tapper reveals what Governor Newsom told him.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a preview of this interview on CNN.

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<v Speaker 4>But the truth of the matter is that a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people made mistakes during COVID. And you see Governor

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<v Speaker 4>Newsom there, I think sincerely, most sincerely with that sigh,

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<v Speaker 4>thinking about how much he regrets the.

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<v Speaker 2>Schools closing and that there wasn't more that was done

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<v Speaker 2>to reopen them.

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<v Speaker 4>We see the damage that closing the schools obviously did

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<v Speaker 4>to kids when it comes to education.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting that he would say that, because he was

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<v Speaker 2>the one who shut them down. And could he have

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<v Speaker 2>not opened them up? I mean, he had that option,

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<v Speaker 2>did he not? It would seem... that he could have

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<v Speaker 2>done something about it a lot sooner. And then, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's the whole French laundry incident in Northern California,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the world's outstanding restaurants, where he's seen there

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<v Speaker 2>dining with friends at a time when he told the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of us, stay in your house. Don't go out.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't go to restaurants. Don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>Lock down.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm sure that it's an episode that he now

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<v Speaker 2>regrets because he didn't handle it very well. And there

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<v Speaker 2>were places like Florida, Where Governor DeSantis said, no, we're

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<v Speaker 2>leaving our public schools open. We're not going to get

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<v Speaker 2>caught up in this. I don't know if you, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you think about these cybercams? Maybe you're driving around

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<v Speaker 2>right now and you're thinking, that'd be kind of nice

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<v Speaker 2>to be in a cyber cab, no driver. You might

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<v Speaker 2>want to do a little bit of research on which

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<v Speaker 2>ones you pick. Here's an interesting story out of Boston, Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>A cyber cab passenger in Austin complained that what should

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<v Speaker 2>have been a 10 minute trip devolved into a 70

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<v Speaker 2>minute long nightmare. The driverless cab started the journey by

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<v Speaker 2>driving in the completely opposite direction of the destination for miles,

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<v Speaker 2>then turned around and took a massive detour through East Austin.

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<v Speaker 2>So this rider posts online, my cyber cab held me

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<v Speaker 2>hostage for an hour. And the media outlet Electric picked

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<v Speaker 2>up on this. According to Electric, the reason the trip

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<v Speaker 2>took so long is almost certainly because Tesla's cyber cabs

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<v Speaker 2>cannot drive on highways yet. Did you know this? Like

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<v Speaker 2>other robo-taxi services, the CyberCabs, which use a version of

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<v Speaker 2>Tesla's full self-driving software that has not yet been released

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<v Speaker 2>to the public, operate within a geo-fenced area that's been

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<v Speaker 2>extensively mapped out. However, Waymo, the leading robo-taxi company, they

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<v Speaker 2>allow their cars on highways in some cities. So pick

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<v Speaker 2>very carefully, choose very wisely, as they say. Okay, we've

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot coming up here in the next hour

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get into, and more on this hearing

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<v Speaker 2>where L.A. Mayor Karen Bass was invited to speak but

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<v Speaker 2>did not speak, but the hearing went on anyway. What

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<v Speaker 2>they had to say about all of that is coming

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<v Speaker 2>up straight ahead. But for the meantime, let's get the

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<v Speaker 2>very latest news right now. I'm Sam Shane, and for

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