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Speaker 1: It's Monday, January four. This is jack Bars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: now the real reason anyone would want to work here.

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Speaker 1: J P, thank you very much, and welcome to Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour for the final time on a Monday in

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty season. My name's j P. Shadrick, and

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Speaker 1: we've got a show for you today. It is the

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Speaker 1: final day that we'll have Tony Boselli and Pete Prisco

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Speaker 1: together on this program, our final Monday program presented by

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Speaker 1: Jet Home Loans. We'll get their thoughts on shot con

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Speaker 1: Speaking with the media earlier today, Doug Brone fired this morning.

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Speaker 1: The general manager and the head coach positions are now

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Speaker 1: open for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Will go through each of

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Speaker 1: those and what they have to offer and where they

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Speaker 1: rank around the National Football League. Social media questions came

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Speaker 1: in hot and heavy today, and we'll go around the

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Speaker 1: NFL and the NFL playoffs in fact that start next week.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with today's news. The Jaguars, of course, yesterday

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Speaker 1: lost in Weeks seventeen, the fifteen consecutive loss to wrap

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Speaker 1: up the regular season, and about Fourteen hours later, Jack's

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Speaker 1: owner shot Kind announced the dismissal of head coach Doug Marone.

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Speaker 1: In a statement, he thanked him for his grit and

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Speaker 1: his work over the years here in four plus seasons

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Speaker 1: with the Jacksonville Jaguars, but said it was time to

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Speaker 1: make a full change on the football operations side of things.

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Speaker 1: About an hour and a half after that announcement, today,

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Speaker 1: con spoke with the media on a video conference to

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Speaker 1: chart the course for the future of the franchise, including

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position, the GM and head coach searches, and

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Speaker 1: much more. And he started with the float chart for

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Speaker 1: the new hires moving ahead. A key thing how you

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Speaker 1: know we would be structuring this is that I'm going

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Speaker 1: to have the general manager and the head coach report

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Speaker 1: directly to me. And that way, really, you know, you

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Speaker 1: have the transparency and the needs and the concerns of

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Speaker 1: both parties without really getting filtered or having a chain

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Speaker 1: of command. So um. And that's really what necessitates that

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Speaker 1: you basically hire them about the same time. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: really you have a perfect alignment, which you need in

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Speaker 1: a winning organization. Shot com earlier today the full visit

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Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot com right now. We'll here a little

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Speaker 1: more later in the show from the Jaguars owner and

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Speaker 1: Tony was Sully and Pete Prisco join us now for reaction. Guys,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon, Pete, Tony, Tony, what about JP saying this

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Speaker 1: is the last time we're going to be together? Do

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Speaker 1: you know something that we know about next year? Just

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Speaker 1: the game? I think I think we're getting can I

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Speaker 1: think he's making the decisions this season. I think after

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Speaker 1: the show, you and I are being called in we

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Speaker 1: think saying we appreciate your services and it was a

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Speaker 1: great show, but we won't be seeing you guys back

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Speaker 1: next year. So that might depend on who gets tired by.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of change in the air. I'll say

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Speaker 1: that around here. Pete, well you how didn't you have to?

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Speaker 1: He did he? Did you not hear that? Tony? He said,

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Speaker 1: to hear? Maybe you want to hear that, Pete, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe you don't want to do it any Kidney,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to light up the new coach. Whoever

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Speaker 1: is a new head coach opening as well. Around here.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of news today. Jaguar's owner shot Con

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Speaker 1: is not often on the record with things, but uh,

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Speaker 1: he set the course moving ahead here Tony about how

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Speaker 1: I think the most important thing he said to me,

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Speaker 1: It's like a married couple. They're in it together. There

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Speaker 1: those two individuals have to be on the same page.

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Speaker 1: That's how every successful organization is created, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: basically said, yeah, there was the ultimate decision maker. You're

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Speaker 1: He's not picking players on draft days. Jerry Jones has

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Speaker 1: not that's far from what that is. I mean, Jerry

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Speaker 1: So we kind of saw the Doug thing coming though, Pete, right,

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Speaker 1: You just can't come back and said, look, whether any

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Speaker 1: something everybody could debate. Is this make Doug a bad coach? No?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, Pete, I think I've heard many

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Speaker 1: I mean, very few coaches go out on their own term.

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Speaker 1: That's not the case in the NFL. Wake up with

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Speaker 1: zero wins. Go ask the Rams and the Browns who

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Speaker 1: played the Jets. Who Nobody in the world, not one

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Speaker 1: bookmaker Vegas. Nobody thought. Pete Presco didn't think it the

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Speaker 1: that's just but that's the nature of the NFL. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to win in the NFL. I mean, you had

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars weeks what's the ball with five minutes left

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Speaker 1: a week by week basis. But it's hard to win

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Speaker 1: to have a whole player for Cuban strategy, what's your

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Speaker 1: I mentioned Matt Gampbell and and and Matt Rules another

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Speaker 1: one and people say, well, why are they different when

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Speaker 1: reason the it's different is this Urban Meyer goes to

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Speaker 1: Florida and he gets whatever the heck he wants in

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Speaker 1: terms of players. Look at that team he had there.

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Speaker 1: They were loaded with NFL players. Now some of them

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Speaker 1: were probably loaded with other stuff as well, but that's

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Speaker 1: a whole another issue because he remember that team was

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Speaker 1: lot of issues, but he got the players there. He

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Speaker 1: went to Ohio State, he got the players there. You

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Speaker 1: look at Matt Campbell, he went to Iawa State, that

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Speaker 1: was it was a doormat, and he somehow has turned

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Speaker 1: that team into a winner and it's been a couple

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Speaker 1: of years of being a winner. That tells you he

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Speaker 1: can coach. He can take what he gets and what

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Speaker 1: he has and coach, Whereas when you look at Urban

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Speaker 1: maybe he can just recruit. You don't know if he

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Speaker 1: can coach, because it's a big difference. Tony, you made

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Speaker 1: the point. In the NFL, you're not getting the top

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Speaker 1: guys at every position. Everybody's not a five star. You

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Speaker 1: can't just line up seven five stars and say away

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Speaker 1: we go and that's the difference between a guy like

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Speaker 1: Matt Rule, Matt Campbell and Urban My I say he

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Speaker 1: can't do it. I'm just saying it's a lot easier

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Speaker 1: when you when you do it the way those guys

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Speaker 1: do it. Let me push We pushed back on you

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Speaker 1: a little bit there because I'm not sure I agree

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Speaker 1: with you. Urban Meyer won a Bowling Green, not getting

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Speaker 1: the best players, went to Utah. What was Utah before

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Speaker 1: he got there. It wasn't a high priceful profile job

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Speaker 1: or anything else. Went undefeated, and when won a bowl

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Speaker 1: game against Alabama, true, and that, and and again early

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Speaker 1: in his career, that's who I think he was. But

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Speaker 1: you know how guys get later in their career when

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Speaker 1: they just kind He didn't forget how to coach bet

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he forgot what he learned. But

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Speaker 1: I just think that it's a lot easier to reprove

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Speaker 1: to those schools and win than it is to go

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Speaker 1: to those I mean, yeah, he did a great job. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was a big proposent. You could ask Frandie. I

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Speaker 1: was before Frandi even knew who Herbert Mayer was. We

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Speaker 1: were on the show together back in the day, and

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Speaker 1: I said Herbert Mike would be a great hire for Florida,

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Speaker 1: anyone who he didn't even know who he was and said,

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Speaker 1: go watch him. He's a great job at Utah. And

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Speaker 1: I thought, and I still think he was a hack

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Speaker 1: of a coach. All I'm saying is it's a lot

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Speaker 1: easier to win when you're recruiting than it is when

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Speaker 1: you get to the NFL and everybody has the level playing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess my bigger issue I'm not. That's definitely something

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Speaker 1: you want to investigate and look into. I just look

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Speaker 1: at the off the field stuff from a standpoint of health,

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Speaker 1: and is this something he really wants to do? I mean,

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Speaker 1: because he's to the last two places he's bad. He

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Speaker 1: left because of health issues and I don't know what

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Speaker 1: they were, if they're stress related or what, but I'll

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Speaker 1: never forget. And it was scary when you watched him

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Speaker 1: on the Ohio State UH sideline at one time. It

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Speaker 1: like basically pass out or go down down to a

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Speaker 1: knee or whatever happened. And so the big question is

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Speaker 1: is this something he really wants to do? And is

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Speaker 1: he really you know, of the stress in the work.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is he ready to go from the

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Speaker 1: Cush Fox job he has, which is a great job,

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Speaker 1: and he does an outstanding job on TV and everything

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Speaker 1: else and making a bunch of money. But you're working

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Speaker 1: about ten hours or thirty hours a week whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: You're now going back and saying everyone's second guessing everything

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Speaker 1: you're doing and putting a hundred hours a weekend and

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Speaker 1: and just a grind. It's a hard job. It's not

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Speaker 1: an easy job. And the issues in the past. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And the other thing is is he has never been

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Speaker 1: an x as a nose guy, so he's got to

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Speaker 1: hire good coaches underneath them. He's right, and you know

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Speaker 1: you're right though you've we've said this before that that

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Speaker 1: position in the NFL and anywhere you just gotta be

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Speaker 1: able to oversee everything. You don't have to be an

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Speaker 1: excess nose guy. You can. But if you hire the

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Speaker 1: right people, you're okay. If you don't hire the right

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Speaker 1: people underneath you, then that's a problem. And so that

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Speaker 1: would be the key to me. If I was if

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Speaker 1: I were going to talk to Herban, I'd say, okay, Urban,

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Speaker 1: who's coming to be your offensive coordinator? Who's coming to

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Speaker 1: be your defensive coordinator? Because you're neither. He's neither one.

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Speaker 1: Here's another question, because that's to drive right to who

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Speaker 1: what type of players you get? Are you are you

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Speaker 1: gonna go get his zone? Are you gonna go get

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Speaker 1: an offensive corner like believes what and and does? Or

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Speaker 1: McVeigh So your heavy zone, play at your pass move

533
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Speaker 1: the pocket, Well, then you better go get the right

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Speaker 1: type of guys in the quarterback and everyone. You can

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Speaker 1: do that, or you're gonna be more of a dropback,

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Speaker 1: you know, gap scheme, downhill run power type of situation.

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Speaker 1: I mean both work, By the way, there's not a

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Speaker 1: right answer. It's no work. But you just gotta know

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Speaker 1: which one you're getting because you have to go get

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Speaker 1: the right coaches, the right staff, and the right players

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Speaker 1: to fit into that scheme. Or any of these guys

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Speaker 1: should do is get Trevor Lawrence when he drafts him,

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Speaker 1: and then he can sign Tebow and then on third

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Speaker 1: down he can put Tebow in a quarterback and out

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Speaker 1: of here of all people, being of a people, Pete

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Speaker 1: Prisco bringing him up? Hey, is there any other credits?

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Speaker 1: How about these other jobs that are open? Are any

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Speaker 1: of those places closer to winning than the Jaguars are,

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Speaker 1: and would a guy like urban Meyer consider one of those,

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Speaker 1: like the Chargers for example, Yeah, I think the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, now you don't have the same ownership that

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Speaker 1: that you do you're in Jacksonville. I mean probably the

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Speaker 1: willingness is spend the dollars that um I think Shoans

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Speaker 1: want to spending free agency and everything else. But as

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Speaker 1: far as attractiveness, they do have cap space, they don't

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Speaker 1: have the draft capital that the Jaguars do. They have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. They have the quarterback, they have the pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: two of the most important pieces of any team, and

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Speaker 1: they should have Derwin James coming back in the back

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Speaker 1: of our secondary to become there. So you know that

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Speaker 1: job and it l A Tony. I mean, let's be real,

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Speaker 1: there's a big debt. We we love Jacksonville, but there's

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Speaker 1: a big difference between Jacksonville and l A. Yeah. You

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Speaker 1: know what the difference is your income to the state.

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Speaker 1: If you're also playing you're also playing in a brand

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Speaker 1: the second tenant. It doesn't matter what your stadium. It's

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Speaker 1: But but are you not right now? I'm not. They

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Speaker 1: to the ram. Correct. But the question is with that quarterback,

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Speaker 1: will they be for long? Maybe not? Well, then there

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Speaker 1: the national media who wants to go to Jacksonville. It's

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Speaker 1: a top If they win and Trevor Lawrence is what

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Speaker 1: you think he is, everybody will want to go there.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, no state income downs, there's the beaches,

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Speaker 1: it's a great town. It's you get me. It would

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Speaker 1: be terrific if they win. It's all about winning period. Alright, guys,

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Speaker 1: let's come back general manager talk when we return, and

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Speaker 1: a little later Lawrence or Fields. I'm sure Pete watched

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Speaker 1: opportunity and a lot of the same ideas. I'm sure Pete.

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Speaker 1: In the GM world, we saw a lot of early

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Speaker 1: or so. Um, it felt like, you know, they were

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Speaker 1: outside the league at the moment, to get those at

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Speaker 1: least done before they can go onto the list of

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Speaker 1: people I'm sure they have that is in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League, Pete, that's probably how this is working. Well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think it has a lot to do with

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Speaker 1: somebody that he knows to work with them. And that's

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Speaker 1: I think that's the way that's gonna go. If it's

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Speaker 1: um somebody else, you want them link together. And I

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Speaker 1: said this a lot of times. I think Ryan Cowden

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Speaker 1: in you know, Kansas City. There's usually ties with these guys,

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Speaker 1: and it makes a lot of sense to try and

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Speaker 1: keep guys that know each other working together. It's clear

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Speaker 1: Shot Khan was not happy with what was going on

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Speaker 1: between head coach in front office the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: There seems to be a major disconnect there. And if

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Speaker 1: that's the case, he wants to bring him back in.

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Speaker 1: It's better to have people that know each other and

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Speaker 1: from going with each other. Yeah, I mean, I think.

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Speaker 1: I mean the sense I get is that this is

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Speaker 1: And when I say that, not that the head coach

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Speaker 1: saying this, If who has finals say over the three

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Speaker 1: man roster is ever an issue, then you have the

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Speaker 1: wrong people. I agree. I mean, let's just get there

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Speaker 1: because everyone's like who has who cares? Because if you

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Speaker 1: get the right people and they're aligned, you'll figure it

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Speaker 1: out and you'll be the same. But the coach should

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Speaker 1: always have control over the game day roster, how percent

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Speaker 1: their coach and the guys, I mean, give me a break,

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Speaker 1: gues no doubt about it, and so um and so

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Speaker 1: I think with that said, I do believe that the

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Speaker 1: the other fifty candidates out there, you know, the Robert Saliz,

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Speaker 1: their the enemies, the you know whoever Arthur Smith's you know,

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Speaker 1: you know a Pat Fitzgerald up in Northwestern you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe why not call Lincoln Riley Wisconsin, Oklahoma, great offensive mind.

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Speaker 1: I would too, Um whoever that is. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure they're gonna pick the GM, but I

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Speaker 1: think shod and and who everyone else in the process

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Speaker 1: wants to make sure they're comfortable with the GM. Like

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Speaker 1: I'll go back to when the forty Niners, they were

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Speaker 1: probably the first and the latest of teams have done this,

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Speaker 1: and there's been out there's the Browns there to last

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Speaker 1: year with Stefanski when they hired Kyle Shanahan. They then

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Speaker 1: went out and we're interviewing GMS, and they wanted to

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Speaker 1: make sure Kyle was comfortable with the GMS. And that's

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Speaker 1: how was one of the reasons that John Lynch got

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Speaker 1: the job. I mean, one, he's very capable, smart, good

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Speaker 1: football guy, but all so because of the because that

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Speaker 1: it's not like they had a deep relationship Title and John,

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Speaker 1: but they knew each other, and Kyle was very comfortable

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Speaker 1: with John being the GM because they're gonna be tied together.

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Speaker 1: They both signed they when they signed their deals, they

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Speaker 1: both signed I think five or six year deals, whatever

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Speaker 1: it was. Because the messages you guys are in this together,

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Speaker 1: you win together, you lose together. We're there's complete alignment.

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Speaker 1: But I do think, um, and so I think what

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Speaker 1: John said, this is gonna be done simultaneously. I think

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Speaker 1: the way I heard that kind of read, you know,

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Speaker 1: whoever's first? My guess is if I was guessing, it's

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Speaker 1: to be the coach first, with a list of GMS

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Speaker 1: and shot likes and kind of getting input, like what

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Speaker 1: do you think about these guys? Um, do you know

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Speaker 1: these guys? Do you know any of these guys? Could

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Speaker 1: you work with these guys? What do you think? And

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Speaker 1: maybe it goes as far as now I'm just I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're all this is all conjecture. You know, once you

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Speaker 1: have a coach, Hey, you're a guy, why don't you

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Speaker 1: come of a conversation with these three guys? Were good

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Speaker 1: with any of these three guys, Let's see who you're

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Speaker 1: comfortable with. And that's the way it happened. And Tony,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of the way it happened with Channahan. Channihan

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Speaker 1: was hired Terry McDonald. Terry McDonnell was going to get

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Speaker 1: that job at one point he was the second choice,

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Speaker 1: and then I think he was much more comfortable or shutting.

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Speaker 1: Kyle was more comfortable with Lynch and that's why he

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Speaker 1: got the job. Brandon Bean got the job in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: That's a perfect example. Now, McDermott, Well, the uh in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: they hired Stefanski first and then Uhry Andrew Berry because

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Speaker 1: Stefanski was comfortable with it. They got along, they saw

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Speaker 1: the same they saw the same way, and then they

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Speaker 1: hired him as the gym. And so forget the timing

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Speaker 1: because I don't know which is gonna come first. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it even matters as much. But the

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Speaker 1: bottom line is, I think what Shaw saying is he

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Speaker 1: wants to make sure those two guys are in together. Well,

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Speaker 1: what what these guys are all showing now is the

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Speaker 1: old model of general manager gets hired and then he

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Speaker 1: hires whoever that he wants his coach is kind of

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Speaker 1: passe a little bit. Now. It's not the way it

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Speaker 1: is all the time anymore. Because yeah, I agree with you, Pete,

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Speaker 1: and I think one of the I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say dangerous. But one of the downsides of that model

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Speaker 1: is if you do that, then that And you've said

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Speaker 1: it before on the show. And because you're right, gms

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Speaker 1: feel like they get two cycles of coaches, and so

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Speaker 1: I guess what, if it's not working out with the

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Speaker 1: first guy, it's easy to kind of throw him under

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Speaker 1: the bus, fire him, and go get your next guy. Correct.

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Speaker 1: You know what helps is that this the new idea

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Speaker 1: of thinking is also winning. If it wasn't winning, there

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be the other teams doing it the new way. Correct. Well,

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Speaker 1: but but but teams, I mean, there's teams that win.

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Speaker 1: I mean the the Pittsburgh Steelers have had a GM

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Speaker 1: forever and they've gone through gms. I mean the right

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Speaker 1: Tom and Kevin Colbert. And here's the other thing. It

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Speaker 1: works both ways. But Tony's right. It makes it a

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Speaker 1: after three years. Because you look at Thomas Demetrov hired

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Speaker 1: way it is. You get two coaches but when you

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Speaker 1: like that better, Sam, because, like you got first of all,

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Speaker 1: the only way it works at the GM and the

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Speaker 1: This is the first time, guys, we have all been

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Speaker 1: together on a program since the All State Sugar Bowl

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Speaker 1: the other night. Pete. Trevor Lawrence for Clemson. Justin fields

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Speaker 1: some things and really put together a big performance. You

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Speaker 1: But what did Fields do for you the other night

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna look at it from a more practical standpoint.

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Speaker 1: Clemson can't rush the passer. He stood back there at

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Speaker 1: all day. And on the other side, Clemson's offensive line

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Speaker 1: can't protect the passer. Trevor Lawrence got beat up good

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Speaker 1: in that game too. I don't know why they run

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Speaker 1: him so much. And the other thing is he threw

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Speaker 1: He's the clear cut number one pick. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure sure Zack Wilson is not going to

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Speaker 1: go ahead of of Justin Fields. And give Fields credit.

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Speaker 1: He did a really nice job. But if you to

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Speaker 1: put those two on different teams, on each of the

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Speaker 1: other teams, it would have been Lawrence that would have

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Speaker 1: had the big day, the monster day, and not Field.

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Speaker 1: So and here's the other thing everybody's putting into one game,

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Speaker 1: putting all video look at Fields. He had two really

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Speaker 1: bad games. He wasn't good in the big Den Jamians

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Speaker 1: the game, and he was horrible against Indiana, two of

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Speaker 1: the better teams he played this year. So, um, we'll

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Speaker 1: see this week. Next week when he plays Alabama on

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Speaker 1: Monday night, we'll see what he can do. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that defense things too. He'll probably light them up as well.

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Speaker 1: But he's not Trevor Lawrence, and for anybody to try

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Speaker 1: Jaguart Van's got their wish. He isn't playing another game

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Speaker 1: that could happen one and done. I mean, that's the

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Speaker 1: best case scenario, Iran. So here's the thing. There's no

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Speaker 1: doubt that Justin Fields had a better game. I mean

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Speaker 1: he looked like the better quarterback on the field for

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Speaker 1: that one night. Um, and Twitter went crazy saying, oh

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Speaker 1: bouncing back and forth against people. Um, it's one game.

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Speaker 1: You go back in Pizzata, you look at the two

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Speaker 1: previous games before that Field was not very good at all,

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Speaker 1: and I think you have to look at the total

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Speaker 1: body of work. Um, And I think, clearly, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: number is the guy above Justin Field and the Petz

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Speaker 1: point on Zach Wilson, there's a I've heard in multiple

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields as well. So, um, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: work that needs to be done. And I think as

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Speaker 1: them at ground zero and go let the film go,

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Speaker 1: Let the combine go, let the interviews go, Let the

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Speaker 1: personal workout days determine who you feel like it is

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback. Um. I do think it's dangerous going

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Speaker 1: in and saying, well, Trevor Lawrence is the guy. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's our guy. I don't think you can do that.

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Speaker 1: I think you really have to have the discipline to

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Speaker 1: start from ground zero on this process with the quarterback. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll do it. He's the guy, because hold on, if

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Speaker 1: he's if he's been the guy for three years already,

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Speaker 1: then how is one or two games going to change that.

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Speaker 1: You're missing my point. JP. I'm not saying any games.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that the game changed anything for how

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Speaker 1: play a national title game. Justin fields is Zach Wilson

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Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence are done right at the end of it. Now,

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Speaker 1: the job of the GM and the personnel department and

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Speaker 1: probably the coach because this big decision. You need to

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Speaker 1: go start watching tape of all these guys, and you

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Speaker 1: need to go watch as many games as you can

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Speaker 1: get your hands on, and you need to be prepped

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Speaker 1: and going in. And then you go into the combine

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Speaker 1: and you need to have your list of questions and

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Speaker 1: what you want to do, and you need to sit

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Speaker 1: down with each of them and get them on the board,

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Speaker 1: and then you need to go watch them throw. Now

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Speaker 1: That's fine, But then you're gonna go have their pro

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Speaker 1: all of them. When you start this process at zero

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Speaker 1: I think you're right, you're missing the point. I'm not

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Speaker 1: I understand you're saying, Okay, so let's go and you

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Speaker 1: on the board. But you find out that he died

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Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm not saying all. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: taking it right now, what would possibly do other than

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Speaker 1: the fact that he was arrested or had the drug problem,

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Speaker 1: What would deter you from taking him based on what

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Speaker 1: I know. I've not watched one tape of Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen him play. You've seen him play on

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Speaker 1: TV and stuff. No, I haven't. I watched this year.

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Speaker 1: This year. I'm not he's tricky, but there's no competition

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Speaker 1: between the two of them. So I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I'm just saying you have to

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Speaker 1: no different what the Colts did when. I mean, everyone

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Speaker 1: was some questions because Ryan Leaf came on late that

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Speaker 1: one year. He had no doubt about it, but the

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Speaker 1: body of work would have told you Peyton Manny. But

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Speaker 1: Ryan Leaf came out hot, and I remember hearing interviews

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Speaker 1: it land on Peyton Mannett and he was taken Ryan

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Speaker 1: leave by the way. He won't ever admit that, but

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Speaker 1: with This process is almost over in terms of watching

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Speaker 1: It's not close that Justin Fields can't be good or

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Speaker 1: You don't want players going in and out or contract

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Speaker 1: given until you're aware of that, so you know, striking

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00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: the balance between you know, delegation and abdication, I think

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00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: is an important point. Uh And certainly I found that

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00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: in the last whatever fifteen months, having that, you know,

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00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: necessitates the conversation. You're part of the conversation with the

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Speaker 1: GM and the head coach. So being part of that here,

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Speaker 1: you know, for the immediate future, I think it is

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Speaker 1: important to me. We're back Babe. Jaguars Happy Hour, second

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Speaker 1: hour of the program. That's Jaguar's owner shot Com discussing

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Speaker 1: his role in the affairs of the football side. Coming up.

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Speaker 1: They used the owner of the football team, and that's

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Speaker 1: how it's gonna be. The GM and the head coach

1094
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: will report directly to him separately moving ahead. The process

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Speaker 1: of finding out who those two will be is certainly

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Speaker 1: already underway. Big newsday today. Of course, head coach Doug

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Speaker 1: Yes doesn't like sorry, but doesn't it sound like he

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Speaker 1: feels like he was left out of the loop. It

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Speaker 1: does kind of feel that way if you just kind

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Speaker 1: of hear his tone a little bit, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: definitely not not anymore. Won't be the case moving ahead

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Speaker 1: if he But that's for sure of course, this morning,

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Speaker 1: Doug Marone like go as the head coach. After four

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Speaker 1: seasons plus two games, they lost fifteen straight to lose

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Speaker 1: to the longest losing streaking franchise history and finished one

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Speaker 1: in fifteen this year. So both jobs are open now

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Speaker 1: general manager and head coach. And there are some more

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Speaker 1: names being linked and being requested as reported as requested

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Speaker 1: by the Jaguars coming out. Roberts Salo was one of

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Speaker 1: those just moments ago that we saw pop up as

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Speaker 1: a name that could be linked to the Jaguars head

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Speaker 1: coaching opening that they wanted permission to speak with. Arthur Smith,

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Speaker 1: and Tennessee another one of those pete. So we're seeing

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Speaker 1: more and more of these names. It's expected on a

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Speaker 1: day like today when Mr con today said that they

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01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: were about to put that list in uh this morning

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Speaker 1: of requests, and those are two guys they should talk to.

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Speaker 1: Those are two very good football coaches. And I and

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Speaker 1: I said that we know Robert Sali. He was around.

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Speaker 1: It's a good coach, he's got the past, he thought

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Speaker 1: I did a great job this year. And I think

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Speaker 1: he'd be a heck of a head coach. Arthur Smith,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I've called around the people and

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Speaker 1: checked on him and everybody I trusted this league for

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Speaker 1: a long time vouch for him. Highly works his butt off,

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Speaker 1: smart relates to the players, understands what it takes. I

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Speaker 1: think he would be another guy. I think both Solo

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Speaker 1: and Arthur Smith are legitimate candidates along with Eric b

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Speaker 1: enemy Um. You know I would talk to I would

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Speaker 1: talk to Brian Dable. If you have a young quarterback

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Speaker 1: coming in who's going to be a big, powerful thrower

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Speaker 1: of the football, why not go talk to Brian Dable.

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Speaker 1: Look what he did with Josh and Allen. Look at

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Speaker 1: that offense. They're playing the best football of anybody in

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Speaker 1: the league right now. And that guy is this entire game?

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Speaker 1: How long has been? What is it now? Three became

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Speaker 1: with mc dermott, He came with and so is it

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Speaker 1: is its success? There? Is it devil? I mean? Or

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Speaker 1: is it Josh Allen the quarterback coach? And when he's

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Speaker 1: doing on his own as well outside the building and

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Speaker 1: also that, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And let's not

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Speaker 1: forget they added two key pieces this year with Stefon

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Speaker 1: Diggs and Cole Beasley, but they all well Beasley was

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Speaker 1: there last year. But they also they also do this though,

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01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: don't they. They dictate tempo and I think that's where

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Speaker 1: Dable gets caught. I'm not saying he's not a good coach, Pete.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I always I worry about just going

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Speaker 1: after the hot coordinator because being a good coordinator does

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Speaker 1: not mean you're a good head coach. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know table at all. I don't either. I would interview him,

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm with you there, I don't know

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Speaker 1: Arthur Smith. I would interview him because he's I've heard

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Speaker 1: good things about him as well. And I and and

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Speaker 1: I know is the head coach Mike Rabel And if

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Speaker 1: you're on Mike Grabel stat you're a football guy, there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt about that. UM. I do know Robert sol

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be a great head coach. I really do.

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Speaker 1: I think he has to make up to do it.

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Speaker 1: I would interview him. UM. I would also probably interview

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Speaker 1: Eric the enemy. He's come from one that he's been

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Speaker 1: under Andy Reid. A lot of the Andy Reids have had,

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Speaker 1: guys have had success in the NFL. He's one of

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Speaker 1: the better head coaches. He's and he's a grooms guys

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Speaker 1: and mentors guys, and I think in a pretty interesting

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Speaker 1: way because they have had success other places and a

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Speaker 1: dynamic offensive mind. And so i'd interview Eric Bamy as well.

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Speaker 1: UM And I you know, I like, I think you

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Speaker 1: should have interview Erwin Meyer. I would probably if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna go to college drinks. I would take up the

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Speaker 1: phone and see from Lincoln Riley is interested because I

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Speaker 1: think he's a really good young head coach, offensive minded

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Speaker 1: and uh had success. There's drawbacks of getting a college

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01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: guy because he doesn't know the NFL game, doesn't know

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Speaker 1: that maybe the right staff to get together and everything else.

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Speaker 1: So there are downside risk of that too. Um but

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Speaker 1: those are all good names to go look into it.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, Tony, A lot of these young

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Speaker 1: coaches that get jobs the first time, they don't get

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Speaker 1: the right staff. You look at Zach Taylor, he's already

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Speaker 1: happened to make changes on his staff. You look at

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Speaker 1: he's being forced to make those changes. You look at

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01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: John McVeigh did he went to a super Bowl and

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01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: then he fired Wade Phillips and brought in in both

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Speaker 1: the new offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, and special teams coordinator.

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01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: So sometimes young coaches don't get the staff that they

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Speaker 1: need to have right away a large part because they

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01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: can't and because they don't know yet. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's important to learn too. So if you're talking about

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Speaker 1: a college coach, yeah, he's not gonna have NFL guys,

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Speaker 1: but he's familiar with it. He might have to make

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Speaker 1: a change after a couple of years. But again, if

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Speaker 1: you get the right guy, it all like the Rams

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Speaker 1: have the right guy and Sean McVeigh. It took they

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Speaker 1: went to the super Bowl, but it took him to

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Speaker 1: realize that maybe he can only get so far with

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Speaker 1: Wade Phillips. I thought it was a crazy move, but

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Speaker 1: look at their defense now. It's been really good with

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Speaker 1: that new defensive coordinator. So I think it makes sense

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Speaker 1: sometimes to go get the right head coach. I talked

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Speaker 1: to Lincoln Riley. I'd call Matt Campbell, I'd call Pat Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 1: I'd call all those guys and talk to him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think earth at all. I mean this is

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Speaker 1: the time to do it. I mean, this is and

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Speaker 1: shot seer today. There's they're gonna cast cast the wide

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Speaker 1: net and do all their due diligence they can and

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Speaker 1: make sure they have the right guys in here. So

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Speaker 1: you know what I would do to JP. Yeah, I'd

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Speaker 1: bring them all in and I picked the hell out

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Speaker 1: of their brains. And then once I didn't hire how

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Speaker 1: about this? We got this from that during our interview

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Speaker 1: there's some good ideas here. I'd want to hear everything

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Speaker 1: that they had to tell me. If you know, when

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Speaker 1: a coach comes when a coach comes in for an interview,

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Speaker 1: he should have pull out his envelope and have his

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Speaker 1: entire three coaching staffs already there. This is who I

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Speaker 1: would hire, is my core dad. If I can't get him,

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Speaker 1: here's number two. If I can't get him, here's number three.

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Speaker 1: Same with it all the way down, every position down.

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Speaker 1: And then you know what if you while you're doing

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Speaker 1: your interviews and he say, hey, everybody had this wide

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Speaker 1: receiver coach, why don't we go get him? When you

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Speaker 1: get the guy who's hired. So I think you can

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Speaker 1: learn and and glean information off of those interviews as well.

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Speaker 1: Everybody will have a plan, right, everybody should have. I

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Speaker 1: would keep I would by the way, I would put

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Speaker 1: if I'm shot con in that building, because that staff

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Speaker 1: is getting blown out too. Let's not forget. I would

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Speaker 1: consider Joe D. Camillis to stay around as my special

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Speaker 1: team's coach, and I would consider keeping Keenan. I think

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Speaker 1: I think both those guys are good enough that they

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Speaker 1: could warrant being on somebody else's staff. Mr. All the

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01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: assistants are still on then deals right now. But the

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Speaker 1: new head coach will make that decision. Yes, I get it,

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Speaker 1: but I would I would try and if I'm a

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Speaker 1: new coach coming in. I think Keenan has done a

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Speaker 1: good job with the wide receivers. I think that Joe D.

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Speaker 1: Candoles has been a long time successful special teams coach

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Speaker 1: in this league. No, I think I think Joe D

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Speaker 1: is one of the best questions could I mean, go

1240
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: look at around the league. I mean the way they

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Speaker 1: perform and what he gets out of his guys. I

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Speaker 1: think he's one of the best coordinators in all football. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I do think Keenan's done a good job, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean some pios with Kenny's a former teammate think

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Speaker 1: kylie of him. So um, I do think he's done

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Speaker 1: a good job of that group. Alright, g M interviews,

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Pete. Sorry, No, By the way, I loved

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Speaker 1: it after the game yesterday, Ian and talking to Philip

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Speaker 1: Rivers former teammates, He's pretty amazing. How many many years

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Speaker 1: is he have left? Though? Did you watch that game yesterday? Yeah,

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01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:23,839
Speaker 1: that's throw in the middle of the field that wingered

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Speaker 1: picked off. Oh my god, but he just had some

1253
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: of his balls and he does not get much zip

1254
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: on that ball anymore, not the deep out he doesn't.

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01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: But he's smart enough to know where to go with it. Hell,

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01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 1: he can still make plays. They struggled yesterday. Many also

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Speaker 1: helps when you run for two d seventy yards, that

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01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: does help. That creates makes it a much easier game.

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Speaker 1: But with all those yards, I mean it was game

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Speaker 1: five minutes left. It's almost like they went. They went

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Speaker 1: dormant for you know how sometimes you get a big lead,

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Speaker 1: you go dormant. They went dormant. And they looked up

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Speaker 1: and they go, oh, don't you think. I don't know

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01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: what happened. But they struggled the whole second half. They

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Speaker 1: couldn't move the ball, they couldn't do anything. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you uh? This is what I saw to a PFF

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Speaker 1: put their all rookie team together. They put Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 1: with more yards. Yeah, more yards for a tip? What

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Speaker 1: would you take? Oh that's close. That looked like the

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Speaker 1: Taylor was good yesterday. He's been really good the back

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Speaker 1: pretty good size? It's forty times. I forget what his

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Speaker 1: forty times was, but he plays a lot faster. I

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Speaker 1: think that he clocked I thought he was like a

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Speaker 1: four four guy at the combine. Yeah, but I mean

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Speaker 1: he's not Fred Taylor speed though. Fred's four three two.

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Speaker 1: But don't you remember four to eight. I think it's

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Speaker 1: four to nine. Bro. Yeah, it's like insane at two thirty. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor four three nine. Yeah, Taylor is a fast guy.

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Speaker 1: He can fly. That's a good that's a good looking

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Speaker 1: back and and uh and he doesn't have that. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the lateral movement that Fred had. No, No,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have the speed that How about this. By

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Speaker 1: the way, we'll get to the league of the playoffs

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Speaker 1: and all that a little bit later. But all time

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, there were what thirteen two d fifty

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Speaker 1: yard plus rushing days all time? There were none in

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Speaker 1: the same season until yesterday when there were two. Derrick

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Speaker 1: Henry and Jonathan Taylor both went over to fifty yesterday

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Speaker 1: and both against US. Well, No, yesterday. You want to

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Speaker 1: get yesterday, they were too. I guess the Texas he

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Speaker 1: only went to like two thirty against the Jaguars. Tony, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he didn't go to fifty. I'm sorry. Either way, it's

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Speaker 1: a big day. He's had a great year, Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 1: I gotta give him this propts two thousand yards? Is

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Speaker 1: it and did it big in week seventeen. Good stuff.

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Speaker 1: So's not good because it's in the division, but good

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Speaker 1: Time Now for Social questions. Each Monday, we put the

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Speaker 1: and Tony will put in charge of the GM head

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Speaker 1: coach search, what qualifications are most important to you in

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Speaker 1: M Tony so um so as a head coach? What so?

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Speaker 1: Just one? It's hard to say one quality or qualification

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Speaker 1: because I think it narrows it like you could say, oh,

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Speaker 1: you have to have head coaching experience in the past. Well,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't always guarantee that, you know, success in the future.

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Speaker 1: There's been plenty. Uh. If that was the ram squatsph,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't have got Sean McVeigh. Who is that you

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Speaker 1: know is one of the better young head coaches in

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Speaker 1: all four Matt Lao or Sean McDermott. That's right, so um,

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Speaker 1: I think you have to So if you're talking about qualifications.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure is it personality type, is it stal

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Speaker 1: Is there anything? Because there's a lot of styles that

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Speaker 1: have that have won in the NFL in different philosophies,

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Speaker 1: and so it's if I'm looking at I think you've

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Speaker 1: got to have a feel that and it's hard for

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Speaker 1: me to really quantify what the one quality is. But

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Speaker 1: I think leadership for both positions are the most important

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Speaker 1: to me. Can you lead an organization? Can you lead

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Speaker 1: a team? And what does that mean? So then you

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Speaker 1: have to start diving into what are the characteristics that

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Speaker 1: you want out of these individuals. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: it's it's around um. You know, you want to make

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Speaker 1: sure you've got somebody who has some integrity, meaning what

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Speaker 1: they say and what they believe is played out in

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Speaker 1: their overall lives and how they treat people and everything else.

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Speaker 1: I think that's critical. Um, I think they have to

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Speaker 1: be able to command respect. Me. They go into a

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Speaker 1: room and you and you all and we all know

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Speaker 1: these people. I mean you've all seen him. When the

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Speaker 1: individuals walking the room, they they just there's something about

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Speaker 1: them that you say, this guy or this gal is

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Speaker 1: a leader and people are gonna follow them. I think

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Speaker 1: you know, you want to understand UM. I do think

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Speaker 1: one of the qualities of the head coach. I want

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Speaker 1: to make sure they have to have a clear plan

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Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball of how they're

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Speaker 1: going to develop the quarterback and what does that look

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Speaker 1: like and what is their philosophy around that. I think

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Speaker 1: that's also critical. But you know, if you just if

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Speaker 1: it's just one quality or one qualification, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it was a qualification because, um, if you look at

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Speaker 1: like UM scouts, we've been successful at organizations and we're

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Speaker 1: really good. I mean, and I'm I don't wanna take

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Speaker 1: a shot at Dave Carbo, but Dave Carlo was at

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Speaker 1: Atlanta and they had a lot of success. He worked

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Speaker 1: on Philli Polian, who's as a Hall of Fame GM

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Speaker 1: and it didn't work out. There's a qualification of being

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Speaker 1: around somebody or on around somebody greats who's done it,

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Speaker 1: or a great organization. Is that a qualification that makes sense?

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Speaker 1: I don't think. So. It's a leadership to me is

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Speaker 1: the number one qualification you have to hire a leader

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Speaker 1: because if you look at both of these roles, the

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Speaker 1: head coach is more about just XS and o's. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I think urban Meyer is a real good

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Speaker 1: is a candidate you can take seriously because it's not

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Speaker 1: just about um xs and os and being able to

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Speaker 1: draw on the board. If you're a head coach now

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Speaker 1: as a coordinator to be able to better be able

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Speaker 1: to do that, but the head coach, you'd better be

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Speaker 1: able to lead an organization. You're better be able to

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Speaker 1: manage people, you better be able to organize them, you

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Speaker 1: better be able to get them on the same page

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Speaker 1: going in the same direction UM and the same with

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Speaker 1: the GM, because there's just because you're a good scout

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Speaker 1: and good uh identifying personnel or evaluating personnel, that doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean you're gonna be a good GM. We've seen countless

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Speaker 1: scouts to a very successful where they were and just

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Speaker 1: fail miserably as GM. Why is it because they don't

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Speaker 1: have the leadership to lead a team or an organization.

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Speaker 1: And that is critical. That's the difference in any business

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Speaker 1: where the difference between an individual contributor who is outstanding

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Speaker 1: of what they do, whether it's the sales or whatever,

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Speaker 1: doesn't always translate to be the best manager or leader

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Speaker 1: of a team because they don't have those those qualities.

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Speaker 1: I agree, and I put it in a different terms

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Speaker 1: than leadership. I'll put it in terms of if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna hire a coach, he's got to be able to

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Speaker 1: come into a room and take grown men and treat

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Speaker 1: them at as grown men, but also be able to

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Speaker 1: instill discipline and a work ethic. And that's the fine line.

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Speaker 1: We've seen many a coach, the guy I know well

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Speaker 1: in your building came in there and they go too

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Speaker 1: far at first, and then it can become fractured and

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Speaker 1: frayed and you have to kind of pull it back together.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the toughest challenge for any coach in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, is to be able to come in and

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Speaker 1: instill discipline, because you don't you don't want to have problems.

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Speaker 1: So you instill the discipline, the work ethic, and yet

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Speaker 1: you still get the treat them like grown men. And

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Speaker 1: that's a hard fine line to straddle. And Tony, you've

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Speaker 1: been around it. You know, tom that thing was coming

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Speaker 1: on glued there early in his career there in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: It was coming on glued in in New York. But

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01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 1: he was smart enough to kind of pull it back in.

1473
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: If you could start that way and get in there

1474
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: same thing. By the way, Brian Flores in Miami, early

1475
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 1: in his tenure in Miami, that's was coming on glued

1476
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: a little bit. It was being it was, you know,

1477
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: but he brought it back in. Ideally, you got to

1478
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 1: be able to treat grown men as men and yet

1479
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:14,560
Speaker 1: still instill discipline and a work ethic. Show up, do

1480
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 1: your damn job, do with the best of your ability,

1481
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 1: stay out of trouble, and I will treat you with

1482
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: respects well. And I think one of the things, especially

1483
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 1: with today's players, I think it's always been like this.

1484
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: I think it's all of humanity has been like this,

1485
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: but today's players, especially with this generation, you have to

1486
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 1: be able to build a relationship with players. Because if

1487
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,719
Speaker 1: you don't have a relationship with your players and they

1488
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 1: don't believe you care about them, then they don't care

1489
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 1: about what you say, and that is critical. And so

1490
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 1: that's all about relationships. So you better have a leader

1491
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: who has the ability to understand today's player, which is

1492
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: about relationship, Pizza. It's about respect, giving respect, receiving respect.

1493
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: It's about instilling au a set of standards and keeping

1494
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 1: everyone accountable to do that. But the way to do

1495
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 1: that you have to be a relationship because people care

1496
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 1: much less about what you say and much more about

1497
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 1: what you do and how you make them feel and

1498
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: what and so that is so important. And I think

1499
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: you've seen it here. We've seen players, top end players

1500
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: that they lost because they didn't want to be here anymore.

1501
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:21,520
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of that is about relationship.

1502
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 1: And build those relationships, maintain those relationships because you'll get

1503
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 1: more out of your players. And I mean, this is

1504
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: the day is no longer here where you can just

1505
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 1: dictate the players do this or else and nitpicky stupid

1506
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: rules that have no bearing on whether you win or lose.

1507
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 1: That that stuff is outdated and our kay, but the

1508
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,560
Speaker 1: rule that will never die no matter who the coaches is,

1509
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,560
Speaker 1: show up, be on time, do your damn work, and

1510
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: stay the hell out of trouble. That's the most important thing. Come.

1511
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,560
Speaker 1: If you come into my building, and Tony used to

1512
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 1: get there what six o'clock to start today? When you

1513
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:01,560
Speaker 1: used to go in there on a on a on

1514
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,600
Speaker 1: a Wednesday, you are there from six until when you

1515
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 1: walk out at what six probably on a Wednesday. You

1516
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: better do your work the entire time and work and

1517
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: and know what you're doing, and do the work off

1518
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 1: the field to be able to do your work on

1519
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 1: a Wednesday. That's all I want from you. If you

1520
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: give me that, and you give me you are, you

1521
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: know your playbook, and you work and you still out

1522
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: of trouble, I'm gonna treat you with the utmost respect.

1523
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna treat you like a grown man. Now, you

1524
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: make a mistake, I might, you know, get on you

1525
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 1: a little bit about something. A dude, you know you're

1526
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: a little overweight, and put your working this week, whatever,

1527
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: But you have to be able to treat him with

1528
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 1: respect and treat him like men. And you can't go

1529
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,600
Speaker 1: past that shot. Con actually hit this right on the

1530
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: head of the day and one of his answers about

1531
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: what he might be looking for in the two open positions,

1532
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: what he's learned over the years, and a proven leader

1533
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 1: who understands not only the basis of football, the blocking

1534
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: and tackling, but more importantly modern football some of the things,

1535
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 1: but more importantly handling the twenty one century athlete. At

1536
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: the same time, It's exactly what you guys just spoke about.

1537
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 1: Let's get to our next question now, Matt Brandon Bush

1538
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 1: eight one seven. I just want to thank all three

1539
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: of you for the past few years. This show has

1540
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: been a staple of mine every Monday. This year, the

1541
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: show is especially needed to get me through the season,

1542
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: coming from a lifelong Jags fan of New York. Have

1543
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 1: a great offseason. Oh yeah, and go j e t

1544
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 1: s see he's been listening all year. That guy. He

1545
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,759
Speaker 1: heard me to do that in October and it worked.

1546
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 1: Look at you know what though, so the way they should,

1547
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: you'll you won't have to do that for another twelve

1548
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 1: or fifteen years, bare minimum. No comment from Tony Okay

1549
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 1: next week. I hope we never have to do it again.

1550
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 1: I mean, this was mysical this year. Maybe maybe in

1551
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: fifteen years when Trevor Lawrence is an old, broken down man.

1552
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: Maybe well he's like Tom Brady, gonna play for twenty

1553
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 1: five years. We might be gone. I might be gone

1554
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 1: by then. I wasn't gonna say anything, but our next

1555
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:00,759
Speaker 1: question at ERICI, Harrison, Caleb and Chasons and provements pressuring

1556
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 1: the quarterback have been noticeable and encouraging. How is he

1557
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 1: looking in the run game? Seems he liking got Qui

1558
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 1: tries to elude the block rather than set the edge,

1559
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 1: and it's led to some issues. What do you see?

1560
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 1: Thanks for another great season, guys. I mean, listen, he

1561
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 1: has gotten better, there's no doubt about it. Um, But

1562
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 1: he's still an undersized defensive ent and I think you

1563
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta figure out what what is his role

1564
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: and where does he fit moving forward? And and the

1565
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 1: improvements he's made were that's good. And remember he didn't

1566
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: get an off season. He's a young player. He's you know,

1567
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: really playing a new position when you think about it.

1568
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 1: He was more of a kind of upstand up outside

1569
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: end linebacker position at LSU. Now he's handing the third

1570
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: type of guy for three defense event. It's different, um,

1571
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: and so that takes time and they're gonna be patient there. Um.

1572
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 1: But he's still it's still question is he a guy

1573
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 1: that you can play on first and second down? And

1574
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 1: if teams start running right at you, I think it's

1575
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 1: a problem. Well, I think he can play in first

1576
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,839
Speaker 1: and second down if playing at different defense, this defense,

1577
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 1: he can't play in first and second down. He's not

1578
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: gonna play Tony. It's the old You've seen this play

1579
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 1: out years and years and years. The smallest defensive end

1580
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: who can rush the pastor gets run at and run

1581
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: at and run at. It can't happen anymore. I mean,

1582
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 1: look at even Okay, as great as Simeon Rice was.

1583
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: Remember back in the day in Tampa when when people

1584
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 1: ran it, then they ran in him. You know you

1585
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 1: did it, you were part of it. He could rush

1586
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 1: the pastor. But what it was the old metal door

1587
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 1: when it came to the run defense because he wasn't

1588
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: a big guy. And so I think that's a problem.

1589
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,719
Speaker 1: Was a problem within Dockway, and it's a problem with Jason.

1590
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 1: If you stood him up and played him on one

1591
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 1: side and Allan on the other, and you had some

1592
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 1: big bodies playing the run in front of them, then

1593
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 1: I think he could handle that. I think that's what

1594
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: he's more suited to that. You would you agree, I mean,

1595
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 1: just my name. I mean, I think there's a lot

1596
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: of work until I mean, you need as Yeah, I

1597
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: get it, so but but yeah, I give him credit.

1598
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 1: He's worked hard, he's gotten better. Next to Leonard Williams

1599
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: will help him next year. That's a big body. That's

1600
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 1: a big boy. I'm calling that early. I've already fixed

1601
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: Remember I fixed the team last two weeks ago. So

1602
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,919
Speaker 1: you're saying that Jets aren't gonna sign Leondard Williams the Giants,

1603
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 1: I mean the Giants. Sorry, the Giants overpaid for him,

1604
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: pay more money than Ape, don't you get it? Get

1605
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 1: about what is there discount from the taxes? So you

1606
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 1: don't think they'll franchise him, No, they might. He's played,

1607
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,719
Speaker 1: he's played that good this year. Yeah, that's the problem.

1608
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of guys that big and do

1609
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 1: what he does. Our next question from that Jagsnight five,

1610
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 1: how much of a priority is signing Chart to an

1611
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 1: extension this offseason or do you let him play out

1612
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 1: his deal and then worry about it in two Likely

1613
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 1: can get a better deal now with this down year,

1614
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 1: bad quarterback play aside, but the cap is down from

1615
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 1: normal more seasons, which should make market value go down.

1616
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: What do you think I want to see him with Lawrence?

1617
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 1: Let's see where he takes his game with Lawrence, If

1618
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 1: he takes his if he's what I think he can

1619
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 1: become with a really good quarterback. But I want to

1620
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: see it because I think it's there. But I want

1621
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 1: to see it, and I think, yeah, I mean, I

1622
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 1: think you go through free agency in the draft, do

1623
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 1: you see where you're at and maybe you start having

1624
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 1: conversations with him in the summer and seeing if you

1625
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 1: can get to a price tag that works for both sides.

1626
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: Our next and final question is from Att John Gold,

1627
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 1: Is me, how important is having veterans on this team

1628
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 1: for this rebuild, especially with the young course first time

1629
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 1: with the regime change? Is it worth overpaying? Some guys

1630
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: who provide that in the locker room love the show.

1631
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 1: Wish y'all could do a few shows in the offseason,

1632
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: even if only online. Do I think that it look

1633
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: if you get the right veterans and it looks how

1634
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 1: many how you guys here now are sticking around? It's

1635
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 1: probably the I think they'll keep Linda and norwell I do.

1636
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 1: I think the left tackle is gone. I think he's

1637
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 1: a goodbye, and I think you keep the veterans on

1638
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: the inside. So there's three veterans on your offensive line now.

1639
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: Is Linda and leader? I don't know that. I'm not

1640
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 1: around that locker room enough to know. Is he is

1641
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: he a good leader? I know he's he could be

1642
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,679
Speaker 1: the media. Some guys think he could be stand office

1643
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 1: at times, but he's a good leader in the locker room.

1644
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 1: I haven't been in there for a long time. I

1645
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 1: haven't been in there this year. I know he's been

1646
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: a captain the last two or three years. So for

1647
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 1: what that's worth, here's the problem. Who are the defensive leaders?

1648
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 1: I mean, you could you always have betteran offensive one.

1649
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 1: Norwell and and and Linda could be veteran lead, you know,

1650
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 1: leaders on the offense. Who are the leaders on defense?

1651
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: I think two only two guys that stand out right

1652
01:29:56,479 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: now we Miles Jack, Joe Schober, Josh Allen. But he's

1653
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 1: only what third year, and he's been hurt all he

1654
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 1: really only played one year. Do you think about it?

1655
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:11,560
Speaker 1: M yeah, I think, Look, I know you've got a

1656
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 1: soft spot for Joe Schober, but I don't. I just

1657
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 1: think that Miles Jack has to be the guy you

1658
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 1: see shobered on that one run. Oh yeah, unfortunately I

1659
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: did be unfortunately did like well you saw Taylor more

1660
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 1: than he did. But but my point of shoberd he's

1661
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 1: gonna be your middle linebacker next year. I don't see.

1662
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 1: You have too many other places to fill. You're not

1663
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 1: gonna go spend money and effort in draft capital on

1664
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 1: the middle linebacker and and he might be better if

1665
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: you have big bodies around them. That's right, all right,

1666
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 1: there you have it. Social questions are done for the season.

1667
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: Thank you for the submissions all year. And you guys

1668
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 1: didn't answer about doing the online show to keep it going,

1669
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 1: But well, well can we can talk about that another Well,

1670
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 1: we'll have to have some contract negotiations on that for

1671
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 1: the right money. Me and bass Elia do anything, and

1672
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 1: it's on the internet. Anything goes. I guess we'll come

1673
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 1: back and oh wow, NFL playoff picture when we come back.

1674
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:21,640
Speaker 1: The schedule ahead on Super wild Card weekend in the

1675
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: National Football League. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the

1676
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:35,600
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. It's January four. Season in the regular

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Speaker 1: year is over. J P Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli.

1738
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Speaker 1: This is the final Monday Jaguars Happy Hour of this season.

1739
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 1: You keep saying I'm firing you guys. I don't have

1740
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Speaker 1: any authority to do that. Will hopefully do a show

1741
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Speaker 1: next year if your agent will allow it. Pete, Well,

1742
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Speaker 1: I figured, you know, after you sent me the text

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Speaker 1: the other day, after your dad called some people to

1744
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Speaker 1: try and get me fired. Since old man Shadrick doesn't

1745
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 1: think I'm funny, he's right. I mean, he knows funny

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Speaker 1: and you're not. Well if he doesn't think I'm funny,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't know funny because, uh, your dad. We gotta

1748
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Speaker 1: work on your dad. I mean, he must be drier

1749
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Speaker 1: than the piece of milktoes. I agree, JP, I agree

1750
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Speaker 1: with your dad. Yeah. The only problem is you know

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01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 1: you might try to agree with it. But every Monday, Yeah,

1752
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Speaker 1: I see you on camera, bite your tongue in the

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Speaker 1: whole day because you don't want to get caught laughing

1754
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 1: at my stupid It's like, right now, no, I said

1755
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 1: funny not I agree. You have plenty of around. Yeah,

1756
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 1: my my humor makes you laugh every Monday, and you

1757
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 1: just hold it in because you don't want to get

1758
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Speaker 1: You don't want to be accused of being guilty by

1759
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 1: associate right there, right there laughing but he's not laughing.

1760
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 1: That is so true. But you know, look, I can

1761
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 1: take it from BASSELLI. I can take it from JP.

1762
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 1: But he texts me and tells me, oh, man, chad

1763
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 1: Rick's ripping me. That's right, you know what, My dad's

1764
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 1: gonna beat up your dad. I doubt that highly as well.

1765
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 1: Let's go around the NFL playoffs, Angelo Chriscoe the Mobster. Hey,

1766
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 1: NFL Super wild Card weekend triple headers Saturday at Sunday.

1767
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:09,639
Speaker 1: Let's start with the a f C number seven seed Colts,

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01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 1: who's stuck into the playoffs, and they'll face the number

1769
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 1: two seed Buffalo Bills want o'clock on Saturday, Pete and

1770
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 1: this should be an interesting game. If Laviscus should all

1771
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 1: looked like he looked against that Colts defense, I can't

1772
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 1: wait to see what Biggs look I mean, Oh, my

1773
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:32,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo offense is explosive. Josh Allen's playing great football. I

1774
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 1: don't see the Colts winning that game. The one thing, though,

1775
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo has trouble stopping the run. Do you think they

1776
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 1: can keep the ball out of Josh Allen's hands. I

1777
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 1: love that the whole idea. I always do. But once

1778
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 1: you look up at its fourteen nonhing and that kind

1779
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 1: of goes out the window and in a lot of situations. Yeah,

1780
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 1: as soon as you're down big or a couple of scores,

1781
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 1: you're hold onto the ball, slow the game down. As

1782
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 1: I just gonna sense it's gonna be closer than anyone,

1783
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, touchdown. I think it's gonna be tight. Don't

1784
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 1: count the Colts. I'm definitely leaning towards the Bills, There's

1785
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. But the Colts, you know, they've

1786
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 1: got that good defense, and they're they're a little bit

1787
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 1: leaky in the secondary, that had some injuries back there.

1788
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 1: But if they can get after Josh Allen rushed the

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Speaker 1: passer and you have one of those days when the

1790
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Speaker 1: front four dominates, you know, watch out. I think it's

1791
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 1: an interesting game. But people haven't got after. That's amazing

1792
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 1: thing is people aren't getting after Josh Allen, and when

1793
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Speaker 1: they do, he moves. No, he said, listen, he's playing.

1794
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 1: Is is there a quarterback playing better than him right now?

1795
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:44,679
Speaker 1: Dot named Darren Rogery, He's playing the second best. Pete

1796
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 1: called it the second game on Saturday, the NFC number

1797
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 1: six seed Rams and the three seeds Seahawks in Seattle.

1798
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 1: Do you think now this this one's gonna be closer

1799
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 1: than people think this will be the third time they've played.

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01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 1: The Rams won the first time. The Rams gagged away

1801
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,559
Speaker 1: the second one and Golford his thumb in that game, remember,

1802
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 1: but he threw an interception. I still don't know what

1803
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 1: he was looking at. They were driving to take a

1804
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: seven point lead in the second quarter, and they know

1805
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 1: him and that defense is good enough to contain Russell Wilson.

1806
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 1: So I think this one will be closed. I think

1807
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:21,559
Speaker 1: Seattle will win it, but it'll be closed. Is golf

1808
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 1: gonna be on the play though? They'll steam up some

1809
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:26,600
Speaker 1: stuff to get there. That kid John Wolford, who was

1810
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 1: from Jackville by the way, Yeah, he did some good

1811
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 1: things in that game. No he didn't. He played fine.

1812
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:35,720
Speaker 1: I just don't think they win without golf. I'll go

1813
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 1: to Seattle. Yeah, I think Seattle win the game, but

1814
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tight though. That defense. Yeah, they went

1815
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 1: full Duval at quarterback last week Wolford and Blake Bortles

1816
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:49,639
Speaker 1: was the backup. They signed him as well. Uh NFC

1817
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 1: number five seed Tampa Bay, the Buccaneers and the number

1818
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 1: four seed Washington football team. By the way, JP, I

1819
01:39:57,080 --> 01:40:02,639
Speaker 1: don't think Duvall claims portals everything do. Now. I think

1820
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 1: there's a there's a portion of the fan base that

1821
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 1: liked to be I like Blake, but come on, a

1822
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 1: lot of the fan base do not claiming Blake. Ford

1823
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 1: will claim John Walford he went to high school there.

1824
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 1: But they're not hard. It's hard to argue with pe

1825
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Washington Again, what is Tom Brady's kryptonite over

1826
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 1: the years? Rushing the pastor? And they have four guys

1827
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 1: who can get after Payne, Um, Alan, Alan, and Uh

1828
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 1: and the fifth guy that comes up his car again

1829
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:40,680
Speaker 1: he can run the pan. They can rush. I mean,

1830
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 1: I think this is a closer game than me too.

1831
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I think ultimately Tampa wins, but this could

1832
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 1: be one of those games. You know. And by the way,

1833
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 1: the last two times and seven and nine team made

1834
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 1: the playoffs, guess what they both won their opening game

1835
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 1: Beast Quake was a seven and nine team Seattle, remember

1836
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 1: they were. And I do think and I do think

1837
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 1: if Mike Evans is not there, that changes the dynamic

1838
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: of that offense a little bit as well. So yeah,

1839
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be closed. I think Campa will pull a

1840
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 1: really close one out. Let's move to Sunday and a

1841
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 1: couple of a f C games starting at one oh

1842
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 1: five Eastern, the five seed Ravens and the four seed

1843
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Interesting. I don't think this is who the

1844
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 1: Titans wanted to play. I think there's gonna be five

1845
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 1: thousand yards of rushing on from the game. The game,

1846
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 1: the game will be over. And you know, we said

1847
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 1: that a couple of weeks ago with Cleveland played Tennessee.

1848
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:43,759
Speaker 1: The game will be over in two hours and thirty minutes.

1849
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 1: It was one of the highest frey games of the year.

1850
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:48,800
Speaker 1: So but I'm with you, Tony. I think that both

1851
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:50,679
Speaker 1: teams want to run the ball, and run the ball

1852
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,599
Speaker 1: and run the ball. It's a question who stops who.

1853
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 1: And there's a little bit of revenge here. Remember what

1854
01:41:56,439 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 1: happened last year in Baltimore. They've knocked him out. I

1855
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 1: think the Ravens win the game. I think the Ravens

1856
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 1: have writed a lot of their problems. I think they'll

1857
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:07,560
Speaker 1: find a way to win this game. I think the

1858
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:09,680
Speaker 1: Ravens went to I just don't think you win in

1859
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:11,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs when you're that bad on defense, and the

1860
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 1: Titans are just terrible on Oh my god, it's just

1861
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:17,880
Speaker 1: you know, they score late, and you just sit there

1862
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:19,680
Speaker 1: and go, Okay, here goes to Shaun Watson. He's going

1863
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:21,960
Speaker 1: to get the type field go No matter what I mean,

1864
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 1: They're they're awf on defense in the NFC. The middle

1865
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 1: game on Sunday at the seven seed Bears and the

1866
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:36,639
Speaker 1: number two seed Saints. Uh, it's Camara Alvan tomorrow gonna

1867
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 1: play that big for them. Well it's on Sunday. That

1868
01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 1: should help, right, Yeah, but again I don't know that.

1869
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 1: Something tells me this game might be a little sticky too,

1870
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 1: do you think. I don't know why, but I do. Yeah.

1871
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 1: The Bears defense, and I don't think Drew Brees has

1872
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:56,560
Speaker 1: been great this year. I think this is it for

1873
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 1: Drew Brees too. I think this is his last year.

1874
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 1: I don't think he said it. He said there's a

1875
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 1: report he's done. Yeah, yeah, I think he's done. But

1876
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 1: I mean, but that's been a lot of speculation for

1877
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:11,719
Speaker 1: the entire year. Um, it's starting to get more legs. Um. Yeah,

1878
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 1: I think I think the you know, both have good defenses,

1879
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:22,599
Speaker 1: so call that a wash. Um. I'm assuming Alvin Kamara plays.

1880
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 1: And then you go down to which quarterback are you

1881
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:29,599
Speaker 1: gonna trust more? Drew Breeds or Mitchell to Risky. Yeah,

1882
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,680
Speaker 1: I'll go with the st but it might not be

1883
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:35,800
Speaker 1: as it might be closer. That might be another one

1884
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 1: where it's closer to you. You think, oh, I think

1885
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 1: it's a tight game. You don't convince me of that.

1886
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 1: And then the nightcap on Sunday eight fifteen, Sunday Nights

1887
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 1: start for the sixth seed Cleveland Browns and the three

1888
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 1: seed Pittsburgh Steelers in the a f C. Wild TONI

1889
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 1: will have to call on Westwood one. Yeah, he can't.

1890
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 1: He can't pick the game because he has he's a

1891
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 1: media member. I've never understood that, like any Quinn does

1892
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:06,280
Speaker 1: that with me all the time. I have to call.

1893
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 1: I goes. But what you make a pick? Who cares?

1894
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 1: No one cares, by the way, no one cares that

1895
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:14,680
Speaker 1: you have the call, right, and no one cares who

1896
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 1: your pick is. Who you picking though? By the way, right,

1897
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Steelers because that defense is good.

1898
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean they almost beat them without Ben Roethlisberger and

1899
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of players t J. Watton playing. Yeah, I

1900
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:33,680
Speaker 1: think the Steelers win. I agree, I think they went.

1901
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 1: This might be one where they win easily. Too. I

1902
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 1: think they might pull pull away from him. I think

1903
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:42,680
Speaker 1: the history is awful in this series for Cleveland, and

1904
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:44,680
Speaker 1: I just think this is a tough matchup for him.

1905
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 1: So I'm with you. I think the Steelers win this

1906
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:49,960
Speaker 1: one ten points. They went by ten? Was that just

1907
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 1: a for the Steelers at the end of the season

1908
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 1: where they had lost those games and couldn't do much one?

1909
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 1: But this Brown's team lost to the Jets a couple

1910
01:44:57,560 --> 01:45:00,040
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I didn't other wide receivers, but I

1911
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 1: think they win by ten. Okay, here's the question for

1912
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Somebody little run that you're not expecting. It

1913
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 1: happens every year. Every last year it was the Titans.

1914
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 1: The Jaguards did it a couple of years ago. You

1915
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:16,519
Speaker 1: guys did it in ninety six. So I mean, every

1916
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 1: year there's one team that makes a run. Who's the

1917
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:23,120
Speaker 1: team that makes the run? You know? I think, Well,

1918
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess people are expecting it, but I

1919
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:29,599
Speaker 1: would say Buffalo, But that's probably not fair. Um, anybody

1920
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 1: from three down? How about Washington? You said Washington could

1921
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 1: beat Tampa. Now they're not good enough on offense. Run

1922
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: Campa might make a run because they I mean, they

1923
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:43,680
Speaker 1: get by Washington the rest of them, well, then they

1924
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 1: got to go to Green May. Yeah, but I think

1925
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:48,839
Speaker 1: they can make a run there. They beat him already

1926
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:52,560
Speaker 1: once this year. I just can't see Tom Brady the

1927
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:57,560
Speaker 1: freezing Gold against it with a night game. Maybe you

1928
01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:00,080
Speaker 1: know how he's done at nighttime. I think Baltimore or

1929
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 1: to make a run. I'm gonna go Tampa in the NFC,

1930
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go Baltimore. Remember, Pete, there's some weeks

1931
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:10,679
Speaker 1: ago we talked about Baltimore was having all those COVID issues.

1932
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:12,840
Speaker 1: Everything was happening. You said at that point, I think,

1933
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:14,639
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna quote you, I'm gonna get close.

1934
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 1: You know, Baltimore could get right. They'll have COVID, they'll

1935
01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 1: be healthy, they'll be ready for the stretch run in

1936
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And nobody nobody wanted them in j R.

1937
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 1: They were I mean, nobody wants nobody wanted to see

1938
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 1: them in. You would clearly have rather had Miami in

1939
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 1: than Baltimore. I don't think there's any question about that.

1940
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:37,759
Speaker 1: So that's a big stretch, that's a real strong comment.

1941
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 1: But they were fighting for the point of the final

1942
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:45,679
Speaker 1: spots Tonty was close Bimore. But you're saying everyone wanted

1943
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 1: Miami over Baltimore. No kidding. Miami's like, first of all,

1944
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 1: that's the whole story. We got to talk about some

1945
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 1: point of off time today, Pete. But to following you

1946
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 1: on Twitter, that's I mean, I mean, you can't bury

1947
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 1: him this early because people bury Josh Allen. They were

1948
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 1: wrong about that. But yeah, but Josh Allen was in

1949
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 1: five eleven, throwing passes into into the defensive line, tipping

1950
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:11,719
Speaker 1: him every two second either. He was just a ratic

1951
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 1: at times. You could see the arm too. It doesn't

1952
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 1: ever throw to the right side of the field. He

1953
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,760
Speaker 1: doesn't throw guys open. You know what he is. He's

1954
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:28,680
Speaker 1: a left handed minshew. Well, I mean, this is why

1955
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 1: I never would have taken him. I never understood the pick.

1956
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 1: I never understand that, the infatuation with him. I thought

1957
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 1: he was a great college player. I didn't see him

1958
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 1: translating in the pros. I could be wrong. You gotta

1959
01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 1: give him time, but I mean, so far the early returns,

1960
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 1: I think people in Miami are going, can we get

1961
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 1: Herbert like we were there, we picked you. If you

1962
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:52,559
Speaker 1: had to grade him his early early returns and granted

1963
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 1: he did not have an off season, his receivers have

1964
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 1: dropped past his they had injuries. But if he had

1965
01:47:57,439 --> 01:47:59,639
Speaker 1: to grade him right now for the season, what would

1966
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 1: you give him? See, Oh, you're in You're a good grad.

1967
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:04,679
Speaker 1: I wish I was in your that that's the USC

1968
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:10,680
Speaker 1: classes know. I'm taking everything, Pete, I'm thinking everything into consideration.

1969
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 1: No off season, coming off a major injury, rookie. You

1970
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:17,759
Speaker 1: know COVID. You know all the things I'm putting together.

1971
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 1: I give my seat. What do you give Herbert and

1972
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 1: a plus? Yes, like the highest grade you can Yeah,

1973
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:30,760
Speaker 1: you would have you would have taken him over over Yes,

1974
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:33,679
Speaker 1: And then he said that I said that before. Yeah,

1975
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 1: it goes back to when and all the Miami fans

1976
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:38,720
Speaker 1: are giving me crap on Twitter, like you said, what

1977
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 1: are your eyes? See? You can talk all you want.

1978
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 1: One is not like the other. Okay, it's just like

1979
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: I said, But Pete, I said that with him coming

1980
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:52,680
Speaker 1: out of college. You just watched him. It's just like that.

1981
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 1: He just doesn't like there's nothing about him. He says,

1982
01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 1: like he does this, tell me one thing he does great?

1983
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 1: Better when he's on the move. I'll be honest with you.

1984
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 1: I think point it's not it's not like it's not

1985
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 1: he's fast. It's not not anticipate. He doesn't anticipate. He

1986
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 1: doesn't go to his progressions. Yeah, at your point, like

1987
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:19,599
Speaker 1: even when like Josh Allen was not very good early

1988
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 1: and the accuracy was a big issue. He had a

1989
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 1: rocket arm. He was six five. Yeah, I mean like

1990
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:30,639
Speaker 1: like you look at like, I'm not a big Kyler

1991
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:34,320
Speaker 1: Murray fan. I think he just he's short. He's small,

1992
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 1: That's okay, But Kyler Murray rocket right arm could run

1993
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 1: like the wind playmaker. Like I get the upside with

1994
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. I am lost with two of I never

1995
01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 1: understood that him coming out of Alabama, Like what was

1996
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 1: like what outside of throwing the wide open people at Alabama?

1997
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 1: What was like? What trade does he have that you

1998
01:49:57,360 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 1: just go wow? Right, he was rolling the Judy Davonte

1999
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:05,720
Speaker 1: Smith rugs and waddle. It's not bad. And they had

2000
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:08,720
Speaker 1: a running game too. By the way, So, hey, did

2001
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 1: have you tweeted that yet that he's a left handed minshew? No,

2002
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:14,760
Speaker 1: I have not. Might I might tweet it for you

2003
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 1: to do that, you just send it on the show. Yeah,

2004
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:22,760
Speaker 1: but he I mean, he just reminds me a lot

2005
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:25,280
Speaker 1: of the way he plays that way. He's far less

2006
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:28,639
Speaker 1: hrky jerky in the pocket. He's not doing the ball thing.

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Speaker 1: If you're Miami, you're drafted third. I'm considering again, you

2008
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Speaker 1: take Zack Wilson. He's there. Yes, I would consider it. Hey,

2009
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Speaker 1: so in the season. J P Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli.

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Speaker 1: This is our final Monday program of the season unless

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Speaker 1: we can get to Tony and Pete's agents and figure

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Speaker 1: it out. But I have a feeling those guys will

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Speaker 1: not answer the phone, well they would answer. Might not

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01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 1: last long. But this is a fun show, obviously, this

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Speaker 1: is uh, you know, obviously a fun a fun day

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Speaker 1: to recap what happened on Sunday. But unfortunately this year

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Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, most Sundays, we're not happy Sundays fifteen

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01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 1: in a row. In fact too in the regular season

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Speaker 1: at one and fifteen. But Pete, as you noted, throughout

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01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:04,920
Speaker 1: the season. It was all worth it. In the end,

2082
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:07,200
Speaker 1: the Jaguars have the number one overall pick. We'll find

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01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 1: out if it's all worth it, obviously in a few years,

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Speaker 1: but it will be worth it. It will be worth it.

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Speaker 1: But that was the goal at least for you, was

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Speaker 1: to get that pick. Jaguars did that, and I don't

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Speaker 1: want to go through this ever again. It was horrible.

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Speaker 1: I will say this. There were days in early November

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Speaker 1: when we come in here and it would be the

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Speaker 1: same show every Monday, every single week. Yeah, but we

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Speaker 1: we did have fun with it and we found a

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Speaker 1: way two start looking ahead to the draft, which Boselli

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Speaker 1: always hated, and it worked out that they ended up

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Speaker 1: with the number one overall pick. And this might be

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Speaker 1: the biggest season off season in terms of optimism that

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Speaker 1: this franchise has had in but twenty years. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's as much excitement since I can remember since what

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Speaker 1: There was still excitement after the loss of the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: It had waned quickly in the following year, but there

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Speaker 1: was and now this is that same type of optimism.

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Speaker 1: I bet people are called about buying tickets already. You know,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence will have a number sixteen Jersey probably and

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Speaker 1: and it will be a top seller. And now you've

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Speaker 1: got to get the right guy to lead the team.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I think the optimism is warranted in

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Speaker 1: that city. It's it's finally gonna have a franchise quarterback

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Speaker 1: that they drafted and developed. It's been a long time.

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Speaker 1: You can argue it has never happened around It never

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Speaker 1: happened Mark was Mark was acquired in a trade. It

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Speaker 1: never drafted developed the quarterback. Who's the franchise quarterback? Ever,

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Speaker 1: how many teams can say that? Not many, not many. Um.

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Speaker 1: But now, of course there is a bright future with that,

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Speaker 1: and the head coach and GM hirings are on deck.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens in the next few days, week

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Speaker 1: or two, depending on the timing. But the wheels are

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Speaker 1: in motion, Tony, Yeah, I mean, here we go. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll find out a lot. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a whole different world here in the next

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Speaker 1: thirty days. I mean, it could happen as fast as

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Speaker 1: next week. If they go through it, they find their

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Speaker 1: guy and it can be done um or it can

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Speaker 1: take through the Super Bowl. We've seen teams named their

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Speaker 1: coach after the Super Bowl um and so it could be.

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Speaker 1: And once we find that out, then you really find

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Speaker 1: out the direction of this franchise from the standpoint of

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Speaker 1: who you're gonna be. Because obviously the owner is a

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Speaker 1: critical piece of its shots team. He's the owner, he's

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Speaker 1: the ultimate leader of the of the organization. But really

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Speaker 1: the culture in that building on the football side will

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Speaker 1: be dictated by the head coach in the GM. Who

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Speaker 1: you are, what kind of players you gonna get, what

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Speaker 1: the standard is, you know, you know, the direction, the philosophy,

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Speaker 1: all those things. Right now, we don't have one. Do

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Speaker 1: you think about it. It's it's a blank sheet of paper,

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Speaker 1: and whoever comes in they're gonna be dictating that. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I know all of us and all the fans are

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Speaker 1: kind of sitting back and waiting to see what direction

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Speaker 1: we go follow. Whoever does get the job, follow my plan,

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Speaker 1: you will have success. Follow my plan. Leonard Williams, Trey Andrickson,

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Speaker 1: Rondel Moore, a tight end, left backle uh and draft

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Speaker 1: well with the rest of those positions. You will have

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Speaker 1: a successful football team. It's that simple. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: final thought here, the NFL got through two fifty six

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Speaker 1: regular seasons. They got them all in. They got a

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Speaker 1: tribute to a the league, be the owners who spent

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Speaker 1: a lot of money to safeguard those facilities and make

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Speaker 1: everything work, and first and foremost the players. The players

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Speaker 1: bought in and they deserve a lot of credit as well.

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Speaker 1: It's remarkable. I mean, if we were honest with each

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Speaker 1: other when we kicked the show off at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the year, did any of us think we get

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Speaker 1: every game in and now stead in seventeen weeks? I know,

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Speaker 1: I thought we'd get him in ultimately, but I thought

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Speaker 1: you'd have eighteen nineteen twenty weeks. The super will be

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Speaker 1: pushed back. It's unreal and one of the great things

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Speaker 1: that's come out of this. We might see Tuesday and

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Speaker 1: Wednesday football going for look out scheduled disruptions ahead. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like, Hey, it's been a pleasure again. Guys, Tony Pete,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you down the line here in the

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Speaker 1: off season. Guys, All right, guys, alright, Tony Boselli, Pete

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Speaker 1: Frisco out of here thanks to Joe Fortunado not with

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Speaker 1: us right now. He'll be back very soon. Brent Reaber

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Speaker 1: Trimpandi and Max hawkman our entire Jaguars Digital crew. I'm J. P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening and watching. Each Monday, it's Jaguars

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