1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: This is a headgun podcast. Oh hi, hey Lily right, yeah, 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: even yes, Hi, okay, I recognize you from your profile 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: picture obviously because you're wearing the hell yeah. Oh wait, 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: am I wearing the same photo? I'm wearing my prof photo. No, 5 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: that's like cool, it's like it's on brand. Wait, spaces awesome, 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: by the way, I've been like me. I read about 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: it in Time Out Chicago, and I really want to go. 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Hear my cousin sorry, I rapped, like, let's get let's 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: get drinks cocktail for a must. I couldn't agree more. 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: I read about this place in the Reader. Awesome. Oh, 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: I love the Reader and they were like, oh they 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: they do this thing with phone that's super cool. And 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, we're doing phone stuff now. Yeah, seriously, 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: it's always like that sounds embarrassing, but then I want 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: to try it, and then like I'm sending fifteen dollars 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: on a phone call. So, um, how many siblings you have? 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: That's um? I have um too? No, okay, alright, I 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: have one, but um she just got married two and 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: a half years ago. And yeah, basically my brother who's 20 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: They're so awesome to gather. So yeah, We're always like 21 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: going to brunch and kickball and stuff like that anyway, 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: But no, I'm looking for now what about you? Oh um, 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 1: I uh well, I've um. I mean, as I said, 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm divorced. Oh yeah, she's totally cool. My aunt's divorced. 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends, 26 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: your filthy hor your husband's gone, and you've got books 27 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: and a bottle of wind to kill. It's books, it's gossip. 28 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm shook. It's memoirs. Martini Club. Come read it while 29 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: it's hot. Clebritook Club. Your secrets. We won't talk. No 30 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: boys are allowed. Book coming buzz Man. I brought the 31 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: queer voe Hey best friend. Happy Day after Valentine's Happy 32 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: Day for Valentine's Day, Happy President's Day, which is kind 33 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: of our Valentine's Day, Huge day for massachusettsers. I don't 34 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: think it exists in other states or No, that's Patriot's 35 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: Days Patriots Day. Sorry, back it up now, everything it 36 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: has a president, praise me to George. Yeah, I'm Lily, 37 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm Steven. This is obviously Celebrity book Club, where we 38 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: read books and celebrities. We sort of discussed them. Um, 39 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: I do think it's really interesting that we're sort of 40 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: reading this book day after v day. Yeah, how was 41 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: your read day? Well, the book we're reading, by the 42 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: way is, as you son, sorry, modern romance, right, just 43 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: to kind of give that, um okay, not to bribe, 44 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: but I actually had like a pretty chill, awesome Valentin's day. Yeah. No, 45 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: the day before totally sucked because I had to do 46 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: my dad's taxes. So I was like, right, and I 47 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: had nothing planned for my girlfriend doghouse and then and 48 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: then but then she toldly surprised me and got me 49 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: actually a podcast themed valentinse present. She got me and 50 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: actually this book theme present. She got me like a 51 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: milk bar, like so many treats from crack cookies. Like 52 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: it was like crack cookies and like crack balls and 53 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: like donkey sauce. Um. And as I just found out, 54 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: as he's on, sorry's ex girlfriend was a pastry chef 55 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: at milk bar. Oh she was at milkbar because she 56 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: was a chef. Yeah, I just looked at so she 57 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: was like under tosy. She was like a toast in Apprentice, 58 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: probably not amused crisis fashioning cupcakes like in the shape 59 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: of this like assistant to chef random brunette. I heared 60 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: by you making brunette cookies. Anyway, so my girlfriend's usually 61 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: so like val so fucking corpora, right, so I kind 62 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: of mark yeah. Anyway, So I totally didn't really have 63 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: anything planned and then the milk bar thing came and 64 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: I was like fought. So Sunday morning, I made us 65 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: couple's massage appointment. I okay. The couple's massage to me 66 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: is it's not erotic. Always been the most psychotic concept 67 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: because as you know, I love erotic massage, and it's 68 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: more about me in the massue. But even if you 69 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: don't pursue eroticism in your massage, it's like, what is 70 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: the benefit of being in the same room as your partner, 71 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: like face down with like an elbow in your back, 72 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: Like how are you connecting with them in that moment? 73 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: It's a little more just about us, like getting massages 74 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: in the same room like kind of like so you're 75 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: not in the room with like, it's more about helping 76 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: out the massage place, kind of filling up the room, 77 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: get more business. It's actually about supporting small businesses, okay, 78 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: which is your girlfriend's Yeah, and you were celebrating. Yeah, 79 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: so with the cups massage, and then we went out 80 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: to dinner with her sister listener of the pod. Wow, 81 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 1: you went out to dinner outdoor. We did not distance, 82 00:04:52,920 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: bubble shattered, hutted, outdoor sanitized. U. Okay, so let's yeah. 83 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: The book is the book is completely insane. The fact 84 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: that it's just a full college paper. Wait, I wrote 85 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: that or did you see? No, No, here's the thing 86 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: I literally wrote down. It's a college paper. That's what 87 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: I've been thinking the entire time reading this book, because 88 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: the whole thing is just like quoting like a BusinessWeek 89 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: article being like fourteen percent of teens have received a 90 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: sext and it's like, thank you for the hot tip. No, 91 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: it's a very my mom. No, I was think, No, 92 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: it's your Mom's like sharing a Newsweek article from four 93 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: years ago being like, Lily, did you know that the 94 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: scenes are because woke up culture. Culture. It's like when 95 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: parents started like finding an old issue of the Atlantic 96 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: and it's like in every therapist office, dentist office, and 97 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: they're like, oh my god. It's the sort of like 98 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: six month like Atlantic to parent pipeline about hooking up 99 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: and then the parents are talented t other they're finding 100 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: the article. Yeah, it was a full culge paper. Because 101 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: it also he is what like thirtseases thirty nine? Do 102 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: we think? I mean, I feel like he's been thirty 103 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: six for the past ten years. He is the most 104 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: thirty six year old person on arth. Yeah. I don't 105 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: know if he went to college, but it feels like 106 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: someone who is of that age, a little like gen 107 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: X millennium mid thing. She just like who are Like whoa? 108 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: I think I'm actually going to write a paper on 109 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: the Internet and it's going to blow my fucking teacher's mind. Yeah, 110 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: because like, sorry, I grew up with fucking vhs and 111 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: everyone has a phone. That's fucking crazy. Yeah, that's fucking weird. Sorry, 112 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: I used to make mixtapes nineties kids anyone. So this 113 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: book also is like randomly not a memoir. This sort 114 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: of is breaking the structure of our show. And that's 115 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: the thing. We make the rules so we can break them. 116 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: Hell yes, but you have to learn the rules in 117 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: order to break them, and you have to study under 118 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: the bath chefs at the Grand That's why at art 119 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: school I had to kind of like learn painting before 120 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: I decided I wanted to like take performance art video 121 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: video video conceptual past failed class, which you but you passed, 122 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: which I absolutely passed, except for your natural Astar's class. No, 123 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: I passed that with just an an inju of my life. 124 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: You finally turned in that paper on volcanoes. Yeah, so 125 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: this book is mostly him talking about like modern dating 126 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: and like the trials and tribulations of being basically a millennial, 127 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: total millennial who like maybe just like the internet started, 128 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: like they got a Facebook and then all of a sudden, 129 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: like match dot com and like friendster happened, and then 130 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: Tender and then tender and like how do we fucking 131 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: navigate this weird world? So at the same time that like, yes, 132 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: every observation in this book is like mind blowing the 133 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: obvious and like doesn't really need to be backed up 134 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: by like a Harvard scientist because like every page he's 135 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: just been like. So, then I talked to this social 136 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: science researcher at the University of Duluth and she said 137 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: that sixty three percent of married women have considered an affair. 138 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, yeah, same. What also makes it so 139 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: college paper is it's clearly like guy who goes to 140 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: college and takes one class on like feminism and like 141 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: learns that just like women like actually were forced into 142 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: marriage because like of the fucking patriarchy and like we're 143 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: traded for goats. And he's like, whoa, this is actually 144 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: so fucked up, Like marriage is actually a money contract? 145 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: Did you guys know that? This also made me think 146 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: of so he's like trying melocky history of like online 147 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: dating and was like how match dot com was the 148 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: first and how it was like so revolutionary when my 149 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: mom um opened her match dot com account after my 150 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: parents divorce, and it was like that was really kind 151 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: of my first lesson online dating where I remember we'd 152 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: like took the photos on like our balcony and like 153 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: made her profile and it's like and you saw that 154 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: every single guy was just like hiking, canoeing, Yeah, India adventure, 155 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: which is what as he says, all guys get more 156 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: likes if they say adventure. I mean so because we 157 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: talked about like profile effectiveness. So I actually just went 158 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: through this. So I just recently changed my photos on 159 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: Grinder and scruffum. As folks know, I am in an 160 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: open relationship and like that's like totally cool for me 161 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: to be on the apps. Fuck yeah, um, and they've 162 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 1: actually become insanely puritanical and like they won't even let 163 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: you upload a photo in underwear, which is insane because 164 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: it's like this is a sex app, and like scruff 165 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: will be like sorry, you're actually showing crotch and like 166 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: they have a notification that says like crotch where it's 167 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: like your profile was not approved. So I've been like 168 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: trying to just like switch it up to like get 169 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: smart what happens when you send dick pics though, oh 170 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: you can send us me dick pics as you want, 171 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: but profile photo profile, they're being like you need to 172 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: just be like so everyone has the like same I 173 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: mean okay, So like Grinder is like terrifying and like 174 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: it's it's all just blurry chests and like everyone's done math, 175 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: and then Scruff is like people are a little bit 176 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: more like we back game hand ends um, but they're 177 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: also like all just partnered, like open relationship, like people 178 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: looking to play and then have like eighteen paragraphs about 179 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: what they're looking for. So would you change or what 180 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: was your before profile photo? And then what'd you change 181 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: it too? So my before was just like this sort 182 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: of like bedroom selfie where I'm kind of like I 183 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: just like thought it was a good photo of me 184 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: and it's like kind of a close up on my face. 185 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: And then I changed it to be more of a 186 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: like full body, like like in underwear, and I had 187 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: to like go through this fucking like crop dance where 188 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: I like kept cropping it and they were like, still, 189 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: it's still not acceptable until I'm basically only twing like 190 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: the very top of the waistman because they were like, okay, 191 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: it couldn't even just showing the cop incline, no, like 192 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: that was like not allowed, even though people are in 193 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: their fucking like slutty asparagon like thong bating suits. And 194 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: it's like that's a lot because it's like evoking swimming 195 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: instead of evoking like getting dressed, and it's like, okay, 196 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how we prive swimming, right, I mean 197 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: the idea of also the swimsuit is the craziest thing, 198 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: Like how like it camp like you're so embarrassed to 199 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: like change in front of someone, but then like we're 200 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: in swimsuits showing more off. It's kind of like random 201 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: that like wire swimsuits like normal, and them like embarrassing, 202 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: and like what makes it okay to be in the 203 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: swimming scenario swimwear right? And then if people you're at 204 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: the beach, I mean, someone sees you and you're bra 205 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god. Well, I mean, of course 206 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: this brings being back to Germany, like many things do, 207 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: where people just Sundays nude in a park and it's 208 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: completely acceptable because nudity is not so sexualized in their culture. 209 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: Growing up, I had a Holocaust survivor mathematician neighbor named Raoul. 210 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: He invented a number. Raoul he was Hungarian, okay, and 211 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: my parents were like, Raoul invented a number. Him and 212 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: his wife also go to a nude beach in Martha's 213 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: vineyard and this man like looked like a Hungarian Santa, 214 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: and I was I was shock, and I was like oh. 215 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: And then that kind of breaks the mold when you 216 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: realize you're like, oh, it's not only like just like 217 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: hot six packed people like big Santa looking men do 218 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: go and that's a European culture. And you know, I 219 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: never saw my father hardly in shorts. You know, he 220 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: was at the beach on a suit. Did you ever 221 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: see your father's sack? Yes, I remember I asked him 222 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: to see it. Sorry, was at the floor. What jud 223 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: like you want to know? What? Like? Yeah? Usually ask 224 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: like a like a like a neighbor that you play 225 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: you know that you like play with like no, And I, well, 226 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: this is I mean, that's actually so brave. And I 227 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: do feel it's like Fredian or something. And I think 228 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: I was like can I it's like your penis that 229 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: is the like her desire of all children is like 230 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: the father's penis, like the father's palace or whatever, is 231 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: like how we like separate ourselves and become an individual 232 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: or something sustaining someone who majored in analysis, And it's 233 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: like and it's like so if you it's like that's 234 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: kind of like the unspoken desire we all have and 235 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: the fact that you were able to voice that like 236 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: freeze you from being like Also, my mom was always 237 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: just walking around the house like fully nude, So it's 238 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: kind of like, well, we need she be so seventies bush, Yeah, 239 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: she's so seventies. Well, and of course looking back, I 240 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: remember I feel bad because I was so embarrassed by 241 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: her when we go to the pool, I'd be like, oh, mom, 242 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: like can you please shave your bikini line? Oh, because 243 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: it was so it was so like out of the 244 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: speedough and then it's like, but she's I feel like 245 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: it was probably just like unloading, like the total hill 246 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 1: sterial nude. And then I'm like, well, my dad was 247 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: fully closed, that's the deal. So I think I feel 248 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: like that was around four she was unloading grocery. No, 249 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't that extreme, but I feel like she was, 250 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, a much more nude presence in the house. 251 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: And then my dad was so close, so I asked 252 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: to see the Peanuts. But I also I remember in 253 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: preschool because I was so I was hanging with the 254 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: boys and like thought I was a boy, you know 255 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: did We were in a circle. It wasn't a circle 256 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: of jerk, but everyone was like show us. It was 257 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: it was a show. It was a circle show and 258 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: all of the boys like brought up their dicks and 259 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: I didn't currently have a fake one. Interesting, I d 260 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: not packing in my ash cash. I mean, that's that's 261 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: coming down the pipe, sweetheart. I'm sure that like director 262 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: consumer like Hormones brand, Folks is going to be releasing 263 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: like just packing for toddlers, and it's like awesome dinosaur 264 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: packers and pizzas the frozen oh Elsa. Okay, um, I 265 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: do so One thing that he talks a lot about 266 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: him this buck is texting. Um fascinating, which is so 267 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: crazy because we text all the time and I'm obsessed 268 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: with that And actually two percent of Americans have sent 269 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: a text within the past week. No, And I was 270 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: totally relating from when I was online dating, because Okay, 271 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: I do feel like you are. I have much more 272 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: experienced on the sex and the dating apps over a 273 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: time period, but I've done actually more like trying to 274 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: date someone on the app. Well, okay, so that's like 275 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: I think one of the interesting central premises of this book. 276 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: And like one sort of note I had to myself 277 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: was like, to me, like trying to date someone through 278 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: an app, It's just like horrifying. I would never do it. 279 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: And it's like all of my relationships that have involved 280 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: like the Internet in some capacity. It's like I either 281 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: think that you should like use social media or an 282 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: app to further a relationship, like you had an IRL 283 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: or like vice versa. You think someone's hot online and 284 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: then you like run into them in real life or something. 285 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: But like, to me, the idea of just like straight 286 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: up cold using Tinder to meet someone you've never heard 287 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: of and then like intend on starting a long term 288 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: relationship from that process to me is psycho We many do, Okay, 289 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: I know some people do it, but I also think, like, 290 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, I just like this. Can I say, 291 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: I think a romantic I think it's weirder for gay 292 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: men to like be so like earnestly started relationship on Tinder. 293 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: I do think that's weird. I think it's like four 294 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: straight people and no I know, and I do think 295 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: that the white picket costplay that like gays do and 296 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: they're being so pete bodaijo. Yeah, it's to be on 297 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: Tinder where it's just like, well, straight people like have 298 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: to well because they're that well, because they feel you know, 299 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: clammed in by sidled mares and they like have to. 300 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, part of the fun of being gays, 301 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: Like we don't necessarily have to like comport to those expectations, 302 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: so it's just like must we must, we must we 303 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: had or armativity put it in the trash can thank 304 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: you twenty eighteen. But for example, when I got out 305 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: of my insanely long term relations sure my twenties, and 306 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: you went on Tinder, but you were trying to I 307 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: feel like you were using, but well I was using casually. 308 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: I was, but still with like chicks, you do have 309 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: to go through like a dating you can't. You're even 310 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: though when I had casual things, we had drinks before, 311 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: and as we have discussed, it's just like society has 312 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: not yet figured out for like a way for women 313 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: to have casual sacks, like whether it's lesbians or it's 314 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: straight women, like you've always said, like I wish there 315 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: was a lesbian sauna culture, but there's not, because like 316 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: that would be so weird if I was an asauana 317 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: and just like reached over sort of fingering woman like 318 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: to bring it back to kind. But it's like why 319 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: would why Yeah, no, I would that be weird. And 320 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure like there is and I haven't heard of it, 321 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: And like I'm sure there is some like iconic eighties 322 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: bath house that I haven't heard of. There was sent to, 323 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: which there isn't, And I think um texting each other 324 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: on Tinder then like the immediately going over to each 325 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: other's house is much more rare I mean granted obviously 326 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: with straight people, because you're like, is he going to 327 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: murder me? Right? They go to a bar, I mean yeah, 328 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: but and I know that ulstrat bill using tender to 329 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: hook up now and they like meet up at a 330 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: bar or whatever. Or like our fan who recently had 331 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: a face time date m yea zoomed over over from 332 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: a girl who met on Tinder and then he went 333 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: to her house and they like ordered takeout and had sex, 334 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: which makes sense because you're like, well, I don't want 335 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: to like fully go over to your house or like 336 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: have such a funded drink. You know, I'm not going 337 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: to really get it. I need narrative, you know, I'm 338 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: a narrative girl. It's like I always need to have 339 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: social action. And it's like even if it's like a 340 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: random thing. It's like when I think about, like, you 341 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: know that Portuguese couple I had a threesome with when 342 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: I was at Primavera and port though like a couple 343 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: of years ago, it's like I was hanging out with them. Yes, 344 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: I was like on ecstasy and it was like three 345 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: in the morning, and I was like, but I was 346 00:17:58,480 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: like part of the reason I was hanging out with 347 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: him becau I thought they were like friends with one 348 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: of my friends, which was also just someone I met 349 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: that night. 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Okay, well, 386 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: this is a subject we can talk about how we 387 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: fight with our partners. I think it's so disgusting the 388 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: way so when he starts dating this milkbar chef um, 389 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: so disgusting the way he checks in with his girlfriend. 390 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: I want to read this passage of a text transcript. 391 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: He gives us his texts literally just make my skins CROs. 392 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: So they're like at a hotel and he has some 393 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: show and she goes see you at a comedy club 394 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: and he goes is at a grum text or not 395 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: sent at seven oh one? Note the time gap here 396 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: is well. Then at seven seventeen she sends not a 397 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: grum text at all. I'm just resting at the hotel, 398 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: been walking around all day and don't feel like leaving. 399 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: And he says, okay, just check in. Embarrassed face. I 400 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: guess I hate the way grump text. I mean, the 401 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: word grump text is so disgusting. Babes, are you grumps? Yeah, babes, 402 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: are you grumps? Like babe pants? I mean that's part 403 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: of like nerdy nerdy like sort of greater Brooklyn, greater comedy, 404 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: greater U see beating culture, which is like putting the 405 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: word pants at the end of word saying the word boner, 406 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: which he does all the time. He's like, uh, yeah, 407 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. And sometimes the girl you want to 408 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: like fall in love with the girl who makes you 409 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: get a bon or every time you touch your hair, 410 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: it's like, yep, whoops, just got another boner, also saying 411 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: it's like ky Arnold culture. It's it's post Arnold culture. 412 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: It's like this like whatever nineties nostalgia, very yeah, it's 413 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: ninety stuff. It's like, yeah, okay, I do want to 414 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: call myself a no about saying the word grump text. 415 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: It's like, yes, that's growth. However, sometimes, like in a relationship, 416 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: you'd say disgusting things to your lover in like a 417 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: cute sea way because that's the relationship. And like I 418 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: do like call my boyfriend like pooh bear, and like 419 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: that's if I do say pooh bear, no, and like 420 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: that's I get that that's foul. And it's like this 421 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: thing that starts ironically and then it's like but now 422 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: you're saying it and now it's real. Well it's kind 423 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: of like how I feel like I started saying nummy 424 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: ironically and my girlfriend is always like, oh, please don't 425 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: say nummy, and I'm just like this Robin's nummi. I 426 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: mean you have to like you have to build up 427 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,239 Speaker 1: a license to say that. It's like, okay, if you 428 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: start out saying nummy on the first date, like you 429 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: back away. Here's why it's like not gross and I'm 430 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: not grossed out when I hear you say story about 431 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: this is because like you have like the sharpest tongue, 432 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: as in like you can be like absolutely cruel in 433 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: a bit. So it's just like it's then you know, 434 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: it's nice for you to be like, hey, a little sweet. 435 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god, Steven's not just like an 436 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: absolute monster like Maleficent has left the room for two seconds. 437 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,239 Speaker 1: Flap flap, this Holts. It makes me think of and 438 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: I feel like this is so is He's culture. One 439 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: of the first times I really experienced the like disgusting 440 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 1: this of like gaslighting sensitive straight man because we're just 441 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: like not around them a lot. That is like as 442 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: He's I was cleaning a house because I am a maid, 443 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 1: and this woman's house was it was disgusting and she 444 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: was like our age but rich and lived in the 445 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: Upper West Side and just like her apartment was like 446 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: so gross, and she was like, so just like my 447 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: apartments a mess, just like throw it everything. So I'm 448 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: cleaning the couch and it was like a joke of 449 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: a breakup couch, like that would be in a Parks 450 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: and Wreck episode about like Amy Puller. I pull out 451 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: a bottle of wine from the couch, I pull out 452 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: like Rese's I pull out a remote, and then I 453 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: pull out a letter and it's oh my god, wait, yes, yes, yes, yes. 454 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: She printed out an email that he said to her, 455 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: and she made annotations red marker in the email of 456 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: like what she would say back, whether she was doing 457 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: that so she could get it out or to just 458 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: like then you know, use that notes to make her email. 459 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: So he basically for an entire page is explaining that 460 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to fuck her anymore. Instead of just 461 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: being like, look, this is networking out, he actually like 462 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: goes into brutal detail, and he probably thinks he's bringing 463 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: more sensitive but it's horrible. He's like, for example, like, 464 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: my father's an alcoholic and so like I'm processing that 465 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: right now and like I don't want to kind of 466 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: like have you be affected by that? Also, like what 467 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: if we go to a museum together, like I don't 468 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: want to have the pressure of having to fuck you after, 469 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: Like I want to just be able to go home. 470 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: So then he gives paragraph paragraph basically just like why 471 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to suck her, and at the end 472 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: he goes, it's like if you don't want to fuck someone, Yeah, 473 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: it's just like, oh god, I'd say, it's like, oh god, yeah, 474 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: he didn't need to get from more paragraph. And then 475 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: the worst part, at the end he goes, but I 476 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: just want to let you know you're awesome sauce, just 477 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: like a Hollandaise to call someone awesome sauce after six 478 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: paragraphs of telling them you don't want to fuck them 479 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: after like a Natchiest museum him, I literally have it 480 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: gives me shivers. I mean, this is house treat people 481 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: talk to each other. Yeah, it is violence. If I do, 482 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: I do get what the trauma of heatersexuality is something 483 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: that like you know, there aren't there is no roadmap too, 484 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: and like it is like and it goes on die 485 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: do you think there is a roadmap? Oh, but but 486 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: not that specific like the idea of like the sauce 487 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: and the pants and the pep. I think roma is disease. 488 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: He was probably just like I'm actually being like such 489 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: an well saying. It's like he's would say like that's 490 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: a good letter. He'd be like, fuck, yeah, dude, get 491 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: out all your feelings. And she was like red marker 492 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: crossing up paragraphs and it's really funny, honest, yeah, just 493 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: like pointing out Arrow's lies. So psychotic. I would just 494 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: want to do a few bullet points of just like 495 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: me being annoyed as ease in this book, please okay, 496 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: ulto a few moments I did law because like I did, sorry, 497 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: I ad mean it like I did like Master of 498 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: None and just like here's the thing I've ever watched it. 499 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: I did audition to play someone on a like a 500 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: golf course or something. Okay, yeah I didn't get the 501 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: part because it's just like I don't know, Yeah, it 502 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: is funny, just like can lean away than just like 503 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: the Eric from Tim and Eric and you're like, this 504 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: is a silly friend group and like, you know, having 505 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: the butch best friend, that's rare to see. So that 506 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: was for me to see, you know, the butch best 507 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: friend giving her gay seeming straight guy love it um 508 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: as much just like we roast. I feel like a 509 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: Z's for being so like tacos at the same time, 510 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: like that we are part of this culture. We're not 511 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: that far away, Like we live in cities, we go 512 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: to brunch. Like I got it right. He was just 513 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 1: being like, oh, like I spent three hours looking for 514 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: like where to eat in Seattle, and like, by the 515 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: time like I found a place I wanted to go to, 516 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: I had to perform, and I'm just like, we are 517 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: that's literally all we do. I mean, that's part of 518 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: the book where he's just texting Chelsea pretty Nicole, being like, 519 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: where are we gonna go for brunch? And he's like 520 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: and then they ended up going to a dinner and 521 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to go to like a fancier bunch place. 522 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was insane when he was like, I 523 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: didn't want to go to that dinner, so I just 524 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: stayed home to text other friends about dinner plans. I 525 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: would like, you were actually diseased, No, but I mean diseased. 526 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry anyone, No, But I do feel like I 527 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: kind of identify with him in that moment because I 528 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: was just like, okay, like sometimes I and the diner friend, 529 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: but sometimes when your friends are being so dining. You're like, no, 530 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: I kind of like had this idea that I wanted 531 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: to go to like Mogador in my head, and it's, well, 532 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: you are that there is like expensive Israeli Branston, like 533 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't want and then you're like, actually, I'm not 534 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: going to eat and I'm gonna like go with my 535 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: boyfriend the super expensive restaurant just like a redly silent 536 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: expensive brunch. Okay. When this whole thing when he like 537 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: fights with his girlfriend and like he surprises her and 538 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 1: she gets mad at him because she saw a photo 539 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: of him using a polaroid and she's like, you didn't 540 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: call me because you were like instagramming you at the polaroid. 541 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: And then Valentine's Days a week later and he gives 542 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: her the polaroid that he was using in this photo, 543 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: and it's like supposed to be an apology or supposed 544 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: to be like a reveal that was doing. It's supposed 545 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: to be like a revealed. He's doing a surprise, and 546 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: then it was like his fuck you, oh yeah, and 547 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: he's like I never felt sucking better because like she 548 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: made me feel so bad for not calling her back, 549 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: and actually the reason why I wasn't calling her backs 550 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: because I was fixing a Polaro, a vintage Polaroid that 551 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: I got her. Okay, this thing where I'm just like, 552 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, like constrain people, can you guys just 553 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: like talk to each other? Like is it that hard? Well? 554 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: And I think to our point where we're always saying 555 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: how they don't know each other's I think as he's 556 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: thinks he's not that. I think he does. Think like 557 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: they're talking, he's like. And then I gave her Stevie Wonder, 558 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: like her favorite Stevie Wonder ALM on vinyl. And then okay, well, 559 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: there is this part Inn't Love whatever the fuck it's called, 560 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: where he takes this girl to Master of None, where 561 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: he takes this girl to Nashville and they go to 562 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: this amazing restaurant and they have like an iconic white 563 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: barbecue sauce and he really wants to buy it. I 564 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: really related with this, and then he doesn't because he's 565 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 1: unsure about it. And then he makes them late and 566 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: missed their flight because he goes and gets the sauce 567 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: in the airport. That no, that's very you. I mean, yeah, 568 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: as we were saying over ski weekend at that great observation, 569 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: and then our friend made um lesbians will go to 570 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: a microbrewery and get two beers then drop one hundred 571 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: and eighty dollars on merch and it's just like you're 572 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: always immediately being like where is the mercer? I need 573 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: the sauce, I need the T shirt. Well, and all 574 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,239 Speaker 1: of my girlfriend's um anxiety dreams are usually about me 575 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: making us miss a flight. Mind you, we have never 576 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: missed a flight. Wow, But I think she sees me 577 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: as this kind of crazy daredevil get to the airport 578 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: hour fifteen before. Right, Well, you're an expander, she's a 579 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: container and she's like an up in the air businesswoman traveler. 580 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: He's just like I'm getting there exactly an hour and 581 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: forty five, like I'm pre check whatever. Yeah, and she's 582 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 1: so global tsa um And all of her dreams are 583 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: just like we're going to China and you had to 584 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: like go to a store or something first miss the flight. 585 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: Of course they're going to China, and her dream um yeah, 586 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean I that's so interesting that she kind of 587 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: like absorbs all of that of like your kind of 588 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: messy mass and like yeah, puts it in her psyche 589 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: and put it puts it in an airport. Yeah. I 590 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: feel like my boyfriend has never had a dream about 591 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: me being messy. He's like, that's sort of your problem. 592 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,479 Speaker 1: Really does he have dreams about you? I don't know. 593 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he's so analysis, so I feel like his 594 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: dreams are really like content for analysis and like doesn't 595 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: really share them with me, because it's like when you're 596 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: in analysis twice a week, like, what do you do 597 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: but talk about dreams? You've got to like that. You've 598 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: got to sort of keep that fresh for the analysts. 599 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: And to quote my mother again, everyone falls in love 600 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: with her, their analysts. Oh, I know that he's in 601 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: love with it. His analyst is like this guy even 602 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: like who's like a gay, like Latin, like sexy. I'm 603 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: just like, okay, obviously you're in love with them. But 604 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: that's fine, that's totally fine. Well we literally fine. Okay. 605 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: I just wanted to when he talks about cheating the 606 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: book and like people Polly, Yeah, well, I mean obviously 607 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: you know my feelings on Polly, and like, even though 608 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: I am Polly, I think it's disgusting and I think 609 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: like having to schedule in an open relationship. I wouldn't 610 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: really qualify you as like traditional Polly where you're not 611 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: having like full No, I'm not like seeking. My whole 612 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: thing is just like I think it's I'm you know, 613 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: we're both from Boston, and it's like we're Catholic culturally, 614 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: and it's just like I think it's hotter to have 615 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: an affair and some secrets and like have some mystery 616 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: rather than like get permission to go on a date 617 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: with someone from your s O. Like, that's so fucking weird. 618 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: Speaking of us being from Boston and me going to 619 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: College of Chicago. He has this quote in the book 620 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: where he says where he's talking about like small towns 621 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: and how you don't meet anyone, and like the Internet, 622 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: there's this whole thing of like there's always something better 623 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: out there, and he's like, if you live in a 624 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: walking city like Boston or Chicago, there's always something hot 625 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: around the corner. And I'm just like, I'm sorry, there's not. 626 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: It's like just like slamming hot biddies in Boston and Chicago. 627 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: You're like, fucking I mean, I guess in my taste, 628 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: maybe it is, but I'm like, I don't think absolutely. Yeah, 629 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I take a turn on mass av 630 00:31:54,520 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: Bam hottie, take a turn on the Magnificent Mile in Chicago. No, 631 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: I mean for me, it's like, okay, do I need 632 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: to see a thousand Buddha judges? Like I guess for me, yeah, 633 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: So for you, I think most people would agree that. 634 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, those are gross cities. And for me, 635 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm seeing like a five four like 636 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: midwestern blonde girl like yeah, and I'm like fuck yeah, 637 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: So wrap it up? Hey, can I get this to go? Okay? 638 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: But what I wanted to ask about cheating? So he 639 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: brings up this interesting concept. Hey, I guess we're kind 640 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: of covering Polly, like do you cheat whatever? I'm pro cheating, 641 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: as you know. But he does say never read the text, 642 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: never checked the phone, never check the Gmail. It's completely 643 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: talks like and I do agree with that, because I 644 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: guess I was going to ask you, have you ever 645 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: checked I've checked text in the very end of my relation. 646 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: Oh and you didn't like? Well no, I mean I 647 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: I remember I saw Facebook message, but that was after 648 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: we were broken up, still living together. That didn't like 649 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: what I saw. I remember every time, I've done it 650 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: ever gretted it, and I don't do it anymore. I'm 651 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: really strong. Also, I feel like checking um Gmail, like 652 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: I also never have anything. One time I checked Gmail 653 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: g chat. I feel it used to be such a thing. 654 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: Chat was a thing, and that's why. So I remember 655 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: I checked g chat of my second boyfriend and after 656 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: we broke up the first time, and I like, was 657 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: in his Gmail and I found a g chat where 658 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: a he said that I was like a totally. He 659 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: called me nineties, which was kind of He was like, 660 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 1: I've a cross in the cards of tween nineties. I 661 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: was like, read the full history. And then later I 662 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: found out him being like, yeah, I think he wants 663 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: to date, but I'm not into it. Oh I know, 664 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: isn't that so rude? Wow, So you're like nineties check 665 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: awesome sauce. Yeah, And then I think I don't want 666 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: to but but then every okay, then I remember another 667 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: time third whatever he everyone was going on reads misread. 668 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: He checked my Facebook messages. I was going to France 669 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: to visit a friend who I did have a crush on, 670 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: and I said in French just to be leed, which 671 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: I meant like I'm unemployed, but he read it as 672 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: like I'm free as and I'm single, so he fully 673 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: babble fished and incorrect read and then was like, oh 674 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: my god, even cheating on me in France. Oh god, 675 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: well that's very In this book he talks about how 676 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: like some girl had an insane ski accident and her 677 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: boyfriend was in the ambulance with her, and he looked 678 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: at her phone because he was calling her parents quote unquote, 679 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: and saw her snapchat and opened up the snapchat and 680 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: so that they're all these messages from a guy. And 681 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: then he was literally simmering with jealousy for eight months 682 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: until he met this guy at a party and the 683 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: guy was just her gay wow. And it's like, so 684 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: for eight months you were just like who, well fuck? 685 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: I mean, his mind. It's better than he didn't confront, right, 686 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: because she would have been like looking insane. I'm saying, 687 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: if you confront, I'm absolutely of the you know, just 688 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: don't check. Sometimes the world leads you to a direction 689 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: that you have to go no, no of it. You know, 690 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: and everyone says, don't check, but you know, things happen. 691 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: The thing is because you don't know, Okay, finding out 692 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: that they've cheated. Maybe is important information, but like when 693 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: they say something like kind of like cutting about you, 694 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: like that can really fuck up your self esteem. Well 695 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: that I feel like that's worth because it's like everyone 696 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: just kind of says random stuff. Yeah, and so you 697 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 1: need to, you know, give that space. Yeah, absolutely don't check. 698 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: So hey, listeners, don't check literally put it down. But 699 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 1: also don't lock your phone. I think that's weird. It's us. Yeah, 700 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: I don't have a code on my Oh no, I 701 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: guess now I do, but I do have some people 702 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: on like the little Moon icon, so like my boyfriend 703 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: won't see the text for them. Oh interesting, So I 704 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: am so you're us but right, it's kind of this 705 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: fakery of he just is he is kind of thing 706 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: about him? Is that like? But also again, so fucking 707 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: like school paper about this is He brings up Dan 708 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: Savage by like page two hundred and fifty, and it's 709 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: kind definitely know, it's like, we don't need this book 710 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: because he is like, we're kind of quoting Dan Savage, 711 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: who's like because King like Saxon Relationshipship book winds its 712 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: way to dance Savage and basically the conclusion he makes 713 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: is like the basically like the dance Savage perspective on 714 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: love is like the correct one, and like that's also 715 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: it's so kind of twenty fourteen about this bookcase. It's 716 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: just kind of like oh, his like Naga mish kind 717 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: of like healthy attitude to be honest human behavior and desire, 718 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 1: but like being honest and open like with a little 719 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: bit of mysteries like basically the right answer. And it's 720 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, people have been talking about this and 721 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: already write this conclusions podcast in books and like taking 722 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: two hundred pages to like bring up Dan Savage and 723 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: be like, actually, there's this sort of interesting theory that 724 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: like maybe you do you are committed and like you 725 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: do realize that like passion will go down. Yeah, and 726 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: he's like and then he pulls up another graph. Oh 727 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: and I mean it also full thes he goes and 728 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 1: then in conclusion of this book and you're like, okay, 729 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: the school paper what Also? I was annoyed as like 730 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: he only gets he references like this is again like 731 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: I feel like why he's so canceled because he hardly 732 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: talks about himself in this book, only towards the whole 733 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: like reference little things throughout and make canceled because this 734 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: book isn't really about more no. No, I mean like 735 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 1: he's canceled because he's afraid to talk about his dating life, 736 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: like oh right, because he knows it's actually totally talks about. 737 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: And he'll just make little jokes where he's like, or 738 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: this person in like has a pitbull themed a bedroom. 739 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,240 Speaker 1: It's just like a weird joke, and he in starts 740 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: a rap star and you're just like, yeah, a lot 741 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 1: of his okay, his jokes are kind of like mc 742 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: sweeney's in that way where it's very just like what 743 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: if I like read like a rap lyric and a 744 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: kind of academic way, but it is just like a 745 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 1: rap is ridiculous, and it's especially ridiculous out of contact 746 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: so it read at the end then he basically it's 747 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: only two pages he talks about just like how he 748 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: went to bars and like jerked off too much and 749 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: it was exhausting. I will say, I think what this 750 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: book lacks is like a sense of joy about being single, 751 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: which I think is actually kind of sad because well 752 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: he says he loves it, but like, looking back on it, 753 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: basically has this very fun had her an armat I 754 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: of like view that's just kind of like the goal 755 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: of everything is like fine to me, and it's like, sure, 756 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: being a relationship is wonderful, but it's like being single 757 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: is just as wonderful. And it's like that's why one 758 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: reason I love the film How to Be Single with 759 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: Rebel Wills Elson Anne what's her name from? Anna? Oh, 760 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: Dakota Johnson. Yeah, And it's like that movie's actually so 761 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: fun and sweet and it like shows the contrast and 762 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, being singless and you should enjoy being 763 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: something as much as possible because it'll be over in 764 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: a second and then you'll be in a relationship. So 765 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: just like really try to like well, I think that's 766 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: what he was trying to say, that he was enjoying 767 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: it so much and then he got like sad going 768 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: to Comedian barbecue. He has this moralizing puritanical in this 769 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: to him where he's just like it's actually like ultimately 770 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: it's like really sad. It's the downward spiral because like 771 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: you're getting drunk and you're not remembering names, and just 772 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: like it's because he's on his high horse with his 773 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: like Tosy muse and that clearly didn't work, and like 774 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 1: now he is single. I think it's just like because 775 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: he is such a like comedian short playboy and he's 776 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 1: like self loathing and is just like I do want 777 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: like a girl to go to pop ups with. And 778 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: that's why he's like so upset and it's like so 779 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 1: angry at himself. It's just it's just sad that it's like, 780 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 1: you know, you can't find like being singles all about 781 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: like finding like different experiences, like not just going to 782 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: pop ups and food trucks and museums. It's like being 783 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: single is about like meeting the guy on the beach. 784 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: It's about just like having a work thing that develops 785 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: into something. It's about just like a DM that turns 786 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: into a cruise. It's like, well yeah, but again you're 787 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: like gay, so no, you know what I mean. Like 788 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: it's just like he's a straight guy. So it's like 789 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: being single is just like but going on tender dates 790 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: with And that's why. But I'm saying that people can 791 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: do different things. But that's why for him, being the 792 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: joy being single is going to food pop ups and museums. 793 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: I just think that it's so sad I want to 794 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: go sorry, I want to go to pop ups and 795 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: like random, I don't want to be covered and like 796 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: lobster juice, Like every time, I'm like, well, that's why 797 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: you're not disease. Clearly he has a lot of demons. Well, 798 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 1: also his parents haven't arranged marriage, and clearly he's like, oh, 799 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: they have this companionate love which he keeps on referring to. 800 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: He's like, clearly jealous of his parents, like a range 801 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: marriage and how they like do have like love data 802 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: section that's so fucking Bloomberg Business Week, and it's like 803 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 1: who the fuck asked? Since twenty ten, the Japanese state 804 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: has paid parents a monthly allowance of between one hundred 805 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: and one hundred and fifty dollars per child to take 806 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: some with a financial burnt out of child raising. But 807 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: before you can have a kid, you need to find 808 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: someone to eleven marry right. Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abbe 809 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: allocated twenty five million in the twenty fourteen fiscal budget 810 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: for programs designed to get people to pair off and 811 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: have babies, including government funded dating services. An official survey 812 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: conducted in twenty ten show that sixty six percent of 813 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 1: all prefecture governments, and thirty three percent of city ward 814 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: town village governments were implementing some sort of marriage support. 815 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: Even more so today it's like this literally reminder actually 816 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: trying to take up You're so double space right now. 817 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: This is why it's like he's so afraid to say 818 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: like he wants a blowjob, that he takes up an 819 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: entire book giving us statistics about the Japanese government. Preach 820 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 1: literally like I can read that Atlanta aloud. Read between 821 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: the lines, bitch of this college paper. It's a number 822 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: one New York Times best selling blowjop. You know, say 823 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: you want to see your dad, say your design, your 824 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: p in V. Then go to a pop up yes, 825 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 1: Burmese tacos. Oh. I wanted to talk about tanga, but 826 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: I guess we don't have to. Oh wait, I really 827 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,439 Speaker 1: want to talk about that because to reference my girlfriend again, 828 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: do you remember when well I got a tanga from 829 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: some like activation. We went to no No, and it 830 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: was this Keith Harry no no, that was left at 831 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: her restaurant. Someone left a box restaurant, barbs. Wow. I 832 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: imagined an activation no no, that was someone left at 833 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: the restaurant she worked at, like a box of Keith 834 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: Harring flushlights, and like she brought them home and then 835 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: you use that and it was like the ridges on 836 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: the fleshlight which was of Keith Harrying like drawings. This 837 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: is a West Village topest restaurant. The estate of Keith 838 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,919 Speaker 1: Harring literally just says yes to any yeah, they're like sure. 839 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: But it was like a sheet, you know, a box 840 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 1: was like seven flush lights in the box flush lights, 841 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: Like I'm sure if just like to speak of Burma 842 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: like the Burns. Junta was like, can we just like 843 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: put your design on like Kishmough there would be like absolutely, 844 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: go for it, let's do it, license it out. But 845 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: you used it. I did. I jacked off into this 846 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: egg and how it was it was just like this 847 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: is slimy. I mean, I'm not such a lube person. 848 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: Like when a guy, when guys come over to fuck me, 849 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: they're always like, do you have lube? And I'm like no, 850 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: I just like really, I just it's weird. It's like 851 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: it's unnatural. I don't use the oterant. I don't use lube. 852 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 1: A lot of lube in my house, but natural, well 853 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: in every room, no, just one room. I mean there's 854 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:49,959 Speaker 1: a lot of you know toys, you know, yeah, I yeah, 855 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean it's not I'm not saying that, like my 856 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: my bussy is so yeah, it's so soaking it. Well, 857 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: I do salivate a lot, and so I have a 858 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: lot of saliva, and like I can just like you 859 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: that and I prefer I mean, I use live as 860 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: two I guess with like I'm a frothy fanning, you 861 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Frederica frossy, fredericasgusting. Okay, that was 862 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: the first female namer could think. I mean, I love that. 863 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good drug ras name, Frederica. I'm sorry, 864 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: my dear you. Okay, okay, um As He's also agrees 865 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: with you. He did not like the flashlights. Yeah, you're like, 866 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: I do think that getting so getting topped by an 867 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: object is fine, Like I will, like I get off 868 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 1: on like sucking a dildo or like obviously getting sucked 869 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: by a dildo, like I can like imagine that in 870 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: my mind, but like to top an object, so right, 871 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: so to fuck the tenga, to me, there's no fun 872 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 1: in that because like it's like, yeah, it's like topping 873 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: is about like domination and power, So it's hot to 874 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: like dominate a person. But it's not I'm dominating this 875 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 1: little egg is It's not like really, I'm just like damn, yeah, 876 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: take it egg, especially when it's a Keith Herring license day. 877 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: It's not really doing anything like in this in the Rotic, 878 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, bottoming for an object is 879 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: even more humiliing because you're like, oh, I'm literally less 880 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: than this object. And so it kind of works in 881 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: that American pie stuff. No, I'm American pie the opposite 882 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,399 Speaker 1: of a pie, but I think American pie, I mean 883 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: it's probably still hotter than the Keith Herring flush light. 884 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and it's also alicit because it's like the 885 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: mom made the pie or whatever, and you're not supposed 886 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: to be pie. All right, I think it's time for segments. 887 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: Segment talk us. What does he wear? Do um? What 888 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: does he eat? I mean has he covered? Just like 889 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,879 Speaker 1: literally like he spent a year of his life going 890 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: to like mud there in Italy to like learn how 891 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: to make violi the most time out food. Yeah. Yeah, 892 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 1: he's foodie, just like he was like sliders. He loves bows. 893 00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: He loves bows turned into pasta pop up pop up 894 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: Potts best Friends with our friend of the pod, David Cheng. Yeah, 895 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: a friend of the pod is not just anyone whose 896 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 1: book the pod. Um. Yeah, he's like, in a way, 897 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: the opposite of Chaston. Yeah, chasin No, He's not going 898 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: to no, He's just oh dude, hold on, I have 899 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: actually a list of like my best favorite jos and 900 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: heights like all looked like any city that he goes 901 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: and like does hand up research against getting so many 902 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: rash He's doing like ten minutes on stage about like 903 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: what the restaurants are. He's like, so I went to 904 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 1: the fucking French place age you guys know it. And 905 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: then people are coming on stage and saying fair favorite 906 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: brunch place. Yeah, bunch culture you know. So it is PERETTI. 907 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean their their squad is very brunch culture. And 908 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: are I feel like I haven't got I mean obviously 909 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: didn't prep. He's so take out and he's so Postmates, 910 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: and it's like I don't think he's cooking. I don't 911 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: think he's no babe. He literally went to that insane 912 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: that was like for TV show. Yeah, but he's like 913 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: making a great he's but he's like with his girlfriend, 914 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: they're cooking at home. She's a pastry chef. He's absolutely 915 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: rolling out pasta. He's buying himself a dumpling steamer. But 916 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: he's take out because he's on tour. But when he 917 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: is at home, he is absolutely making a short rib 918 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: fucking rug ou. I guess I just thought that. I 919 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: feel like everyone in las A Postmates and they're just 920 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: like posts meating like ice cream at two am, and 921 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: they're postmating nice coffee and they're like, but when he 922 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: is cooking, he is doing like a full hand pulled 923 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: noodles zelong bow. Like he's not doing like a sandwich 924 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: at home. No, he's either getting the most epic sir 925 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,919 Speaker 1: no cold cuts in that fridge right or going to 926 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: make the most epic two day long food. How does 927 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 1: he live? I feel like he's the most like everything 928 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: is mid century. Yeah, there's like not one thing that 929 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: it's all new mid century. It's completely new mid century. 930 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: It's a very like selling Sunset house, but that's going 931 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 1: for one point one, you know what I mean. It's 932 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: like a two bedroom and bedroom. I mean maybe the 933 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: credenza's vintage, but it's like in mid condition and super 934 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: expect and he's from nineteen sixty eight and it has 935 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: a built in record player, absolutely because he thinks that's 936 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: sucking pimp man. Ultimately, you know it is. I think 937 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: as he's like does have a lower end vinyl player 938 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: like Crossley, that brand, which I used to have, Like 939 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: I feel like, okay, he is buying a more basic retro. 940 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: I think I think that also though, like someone got 941 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: him as a gift this um thing I saw on 942 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: charctok once that's like that can play a record without 943 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: a record player. It's like this little car that goes 944 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 1: on vinyl. Like Bluetooth. I mean, like the Bluetooth in 945 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 1: that house is out of control. Everything is bluetooth into 946 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, And I think he's like when he 947 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: was in Japan, he probably did get a super expensive record, 948 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: but he's mostly buying like a new. He's buying like 949 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: a new like Michael Jackson, like on vinyl. Yes, he's like, 950 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: oh the re released Billy Geane on vinyl. He's not 951 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 1: like scouring for some like actually fucking anything is a 952 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,720 Speaker 1: fucking poser. Gud Follers are dude, not like us fucking 953 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 1: Empire Records as indie people. I mean, as I've said, 954 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm not that but you are, and you invented not 955 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: to bring up my haircut, which is actually kind of 956 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 1: crazy that I have brought up this entire pod. I mean, 957 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: you've been emanating. I got a haircut vibes if you 958 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: can hear it through the airwaves. So I feel like 959 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 1: I kind of have also got a Ja's hair but 960 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: also the owner of Empire Records. It's like a cross 961 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: I got like two. That movie is not like such 962 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 1: a hitting for you. It's just it's not like a 963 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 1: marker for me. Okay, moving moving on, then moving on? Um, 964 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: what does he wear? I mean we know what, we 965 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 1: know what he wears like little all birds, all birds, Bonobos, 966 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: little blazers, most Bnobos. Person Yeah, it's like a brow 967 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 1: that like duck maybe colored. He's just like I like, 968 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: I like fucking like fabric that's comfortable but like a 969 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: little bit formal, you know, Yes, And then he's wearing 970 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 1: like a super nice New Versity bomber jacket. He's not 971 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: that store untucket, but like he might as well be. 972 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 1: I bet he has a few on tuckets, but like 973 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 1: he's not repping for them. But I think because of 974 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 1: his stature he has a shorter man as a shorter king. 975 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm wearing a shirt today that I wish 976 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,959 Speaker 1: was a little more on tucket, Like it's so long. 977 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 1: Can I hate something? Yeah, I don't think you should 978 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: get too crop Now that you have the cropped haircut, 979 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: like you're gonna start looking just like an urban outfitters girl. 980 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: Like if you get two cropped with the shirts, it's 981 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 1: like you're just gonna be fully like black seed Bagel, 982 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 1: like with your big matcha at one PM. Like if like, 983 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,799 Speaker 1: let's not get too croppy. This shirt is so long. 984 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: I don't think it's so long. I think it actually 985 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 1: looks good with with your hair. I think what's the 986 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 1: one thing that's actually very cool about your head that 987 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 1: I will say? Yeah, is that one thing one one 988 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 1: of many things that is cool about your hair is that, 989 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: unlike the bouffant, like having some more volume on the sides, 990 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: like draws the eye up in a way that the 991 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: bouffont like like made extra like fabric seemed too extra, 992 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: but now extra fabric seems like it's more intentional. So 993 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,319 Speaker 1: I think the longer shirt actually works. Wow, thank you, 994 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: So you don't you have taught me? Is that is 995 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: kind of about I think fabric lengths and proportions, because 996 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, I would have gone in. I would have 997 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,359 Speaker 1: thought when she was getting it, I was like, oh, 998 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: is is this puffiness on the side gonna make me 999 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: look more feminine? But it weirdly makes me look more 1000 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 1: masculine than my bouffont I feel, which was like some 1001 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: people read, I feel like some older women who were 1002 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 1: just like, oh, fabrious, do you look like this eighteenth 1003 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: century yeah woman, because it was a little rockabilly, because billy. 1004 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,840 Speaker 1: But then people took it as a little more. Um, 1005 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you've always read as like 1006 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,280 Speaker 1: total the butcher in New Yorker in history, like friend Lebowitz, 1007 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 1: take a seat. Oh well, that's the things I think 1008 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: since I was born, this curve Italian cheka, right, Senora, 1009 00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 1: really right? No, you're and your mom watched a lot 1010 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 1: of Sophila and films when she was a pregnant with you. 1011 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: That's actually how she got bregnant. That's the only way 1012 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:20,720 Speaker 1: your dad could get hard on that note, Senora. Um, 1013 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: this was this was this was a super Hello. Who 1014 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: are we always forget this segment? Okay, there's no one 1015 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 1: in this book. There's no character. Yeah, I know, it's 1016 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,280 Speaker 1: always like okay, am I this like Jane from Tampa 1017 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 1: who had a ski accident who downloaded snapchat. Yeah, like 1018 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's kind of like, well you could say 1019 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: there was um, there's parents. There's also um his friend 1020 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 1: who was like a divorced dad who like wrote a 1021 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 1: chlogo reader personal in the eighties. That was kind of 1022 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: a character I did like a lot. That was the 1023 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 1: guy I did make me nostalgic for like newspaper personals 1024 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 1: and like I do and like, you know, we know 1025 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 1: that the lex app is really trying to bring that 1026 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: back in a way. I will say he does actually 1027 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 1: make some some good points in this book to his credit, 1028 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 1: Like I think one of the best points was the 1029 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 1: idea of time and that like the fact that we 1030 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 1: are so instant gratification now actually changes like the mechanisms 1031 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 1: of desire and like makes you less into a person 1032 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,240 Speaker 1: when you have this like when you expect responses rapidly, 1033 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 1: and like the whole thing about like when you used 1034 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 1: to fill out a newspaper personal and you would like 1035 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,359 Speaker 1: write this ad and then like you would put like 1036 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 1: you have a voice voice and then and then like 1037 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: a week later, like someone's leaving your voicemone, then a 1038 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: week later you're checking the voice one. Then maybe you're 1039 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: calling some of the people back, and like that drawn 1040 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 1: out process creates a sense of mystery and uncertainty that 1041 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 1: is actually like much more exciting and like primes you 1042 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 1: to like be more into the person and like be 1043 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 1: more inquisitive and like sort of go down a journey 1044 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 1: with someone much more than when you're just like writing 1045 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,320 Speaker 1: a thing and expecting immediate response and then just like 1046 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 1: swipe people starting, you know. And so I think there 1047 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: was like we have lost something there in the immedia 1048 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: and again to kind of just me a time a 1049 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: bit to plug my business of crispy cruising is that 1050 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: is doesn't thing anymore because we have a sorry pandemic. 1051 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,840 Speaker 1: Sorry it's a pandemic data. Sorry, we can't do iral 1052 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,800 Speaker 1: date anymore. Sorry dude, sorry, sorry, how it is you 1053 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 1: do whatever? Do that? My friend Alex and I did 1054 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: start a queer speed dating business to bring stuff back 1055 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: to the IRL universe and get off our phones. I 1056 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 1: love that and it worked and it worked, and it's 1057 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 1: about combining the phone and the IRL and it was 1058 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: like put your Instagram handle on meet the person, take 1059 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: the photo, the handle message and that again it's like 1060 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: that is where I will come down, and I will 1061 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 1: say that like all my relationships like do have some 1062 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 1: sort of combination of technology in real life. And I 1063 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 1: think that it is important to be a part of 1064 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: a social scene and like go to events and see 1065 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: people and like you know, do we we Let's not 1066 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 1: pretend that phone zone exists. Obviously they are extension of 1067 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 1: versals where attached them glued dada da da. But like 1068 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 1: like a lot, what would happen is people would be like, oh, 1069 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: me and this person actually did message on Tinner and 1070 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: then it was like catapulted by seeing each other irl 1071 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 1: because and things got lost. So maybe you know you 1072 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 1: message you know some quacks and they were like some 1073 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 1: thing happened to their cat and then you're like, oh 1074 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: they hate me, and then you actually saw them with 1075 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 1: chrispeaks right, and then it was kind of hot and 1076 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 1: then you had a connection. It's just like let everything simmer. 1077 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 1: Have thirteen backburners at all times, but like don't get 1078 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,720 Speaker 1: too attached, but like play it cool to a message, 1079 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:19,879 Speaker 1: don't check usband, get a husband, divorce the husband, take 1080 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: out a real personal ad get a landline. Oh, we 1081 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,359 Speaker 1: never chose who we were in the book. Who are 1082 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 1: we in the book? Who are you in the book? Ultimately, 1083 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: I guess, like sadly, like I'm am half asy As 1084 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 1: even though we like roasted him so much, so I 1085 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 1: know we're both kind of as easy because we're so brunch. 1086 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I do kind of if we're going to 1087 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 1: be that. There's that one scene where he references like 1088 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,760 Speaker 1: texting Chelsea Bready Nicole and like, maybe I'm more Chelsea 1089 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: because I'm so wearing a weird top and she's always 1090 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: we all want to be Chelsea, She's a queen. I'm 1091 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: just yeah, I'm just more saying about like her sort 1092 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: of random ass fashion choices. Although I guess I would 1093 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: say that I maybe have more, Yeah, I would say 1094 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 1: more than I think I'm not so comedian style. I 1095 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: would say I am more the little bit more. I 1096 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 1: don't know. I think we're Azzo's on different days. Oh true. 1097 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:07,239 Speaker 1: But also I think maybe I am that divorced man 1098 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,720 Speaker 1: who wrote a personal lad and the Reader in nineteen 1099 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: eighty five, yeah, and got like so many responses and 1100 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: went with the woman who could speak Spanish or actually, 1101 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 1: where's that you? And I'm actually, since I do run 1102 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 1: a speed dating business, I'm like one of the people 1103 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 1: he quotes. Yes, you're like a noted sociologist at the 1104 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 1: University of Connecticut who's writing a paper, and I'm this 1105 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: guy who wants the dated woman who also speaks French. 1106 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 1: Thank you done. Rub that one up. Okay, let's go 1107 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:42,359 Speaker 1: get m barbecue shredded bow noodle COMPARI let's get lobster 1108 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:48,720 Speaker 1: mac and cheese slider pizzas Neopolitan Saint Louis Detroit style 1109 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 1: subs and found a cool, like weirdly long message like 1110 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 1: not too long after you swipe on someone wait two minutes. 1111 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 1: I would say that this book is I mean, you 1112 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 1: don't need to read it's the most airport book ever, 1113 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 1: but it is very easy to read. Yeah, it's just 1114 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 1: if you are practicing reading, pick it up. Yeah, even 1115 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 1: if you're a super huge fan of disease, just like 1116 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: watches stand up specials like this will disappoint you. Yeah. 1117 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 1: So I give this honestly zero bows out of five. No, 1118 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 1: I give it two out of five phones because I'm like, again, 1119 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 1: like I liked the ease of reading, because you know, 1120 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like anti literate, like as a cause, 1121 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: and it's just like I'm reading one page of like 1122 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: fucking Freud or whatever because I love stories about dating 1123 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 1: and just like random anecdotes, and if it was that 1124 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 1: doing so much more and less like graphs, yeah, less, 1125 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 1: less graphs of stuff I already know. I'm like, thanks, 1126 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:50,359 Speaker 1: I'm aware that like marriages are like declining and just 1127 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 1: like women got jobs. Thank you for this history lesson. Yeah, 1128 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 1: if it were more like, oh my god, like that 1129 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: book that I got like once at that like their 1130 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: story that was like the area of fifty women, and 1131 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 1: it was like, oh right, if it was a little 1132 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 1: more old. So he said it was a completely different book, 1133 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 1: he said. She said it was to be like Guys 1134 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 1: on Tender would be like ten interviews of guys or 1135 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 1: just like I mean, it is fun that he shows 1136 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 1: texts in this. Yeah, and it's like make the whole book. 1137 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 1: It should have been a graphic novel, all of texts 1138 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 1: with one like hey ladies, yeah, which we love. Okay, 1139 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 1: so we're re I'm actually going to do this book 1140 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 1: and just make it like fictional and like only text 1141 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 1: and emails. Yeah. Okay, So our next book. Um, we're 1142 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 1: totally switching gears because this book was all about straight people, 1143 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 1: which also he did call himself in by the way 1144 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 1: and say, I'm not even gonna try to do a 1145 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 1: book about people. I really appreciate that he said the 1146 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 1: parameters of sort of the study at the beginning email 1147 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 1: was that was really helpful. Anyway, we're doing lesbians next week, 1148 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 1: which is huge because we haven't done a book about 1149 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 1: lesbians yet. We're doing the Taken and Sarah memoir Boom 1150 00:57:54,720 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 1: Boom book. Indeed, anyone, um, mullets, anyone haircuts, any one wait, sorry, 1151 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 1: and their sisters who are lesbians. Yeah, so we can 1152 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 1: talk about that. Interesting twins. If I believe I actually 1153 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,439 Speaker 1: know nothing, I'm not a fan. I'm so I'm so 1154 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 1: excited to learn. It's so funny because you're not a 1155 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 1: fan in a way that's like you're such like letsbian 1156 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 1: music aficionado that you're like, yeah, that's like fucking like 1157 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,920 Speaker 1: baby ship. Well, I think it's because I'm like sadly 1158 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 1: old and I'm like of an any generation and they're like, 1159 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 1: oh right, because you're spiritually gen X Yeah, spiritual gen 1160 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 1: o X rising millennial. Yeah. Okay, So rockers. See you 1161 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 1: next week in Toronto. Rock On We're Going Back onto 1162 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 1: Our Fasts. Celebrity but Club is presented by Prolag Projects 1163 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 1: and Headgum. 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