1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome to The Clay Travis and Buck 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Thank you everybody for being here with us. 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Bones are open eight two eight eight two. If you 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: want to chat with us, we'll get to it later 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: on the hour. And today we've got promises from Democrats 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: Pelosi specifically that there's going to be an infrastructure bill 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: vote today. We shall see if that in fact happens 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: as promise. Plus, we've got some January six rioters who 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: didn't community violence sentence of forty five days in prison. 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: We can discuss net Lieutenant Colonel Scheller, who spoke out 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: against the incompetence of the Biden withdrawal from Afghanistan. He 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: has been held in pre trial detention in the brig. 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: People are saying, what the heck is going on? Can 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: we do something about that? Seems a bit extreme, But 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: we want to start today with why is it that 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: you are not hearing about the Florida COVID caseloads so 18 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: much anymore? I mean, you probably know the answer just 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: by the fact that we're asking the question, But we 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: were on this show and talking to you about it 21 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: in July and August because the media was convinced that 22 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: Ron de santists. They would say things like doesn't care 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: about old people or children dying of COVID, horrible things, 24 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: And then it became a joke among conservatives that Ron 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: de Santists somehow must have also caused a COVID surge 26 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 1: in Hawaii and in Oregon. What was Ron de Santis 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: doing to all these places? Right? We knew that it 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: was absurd and that they were scoring cheap political points 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: when we all know that there's a seasonality to the virus. 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 1: There has been from the beginning, and as it gets 31 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: warmer in the summer months, people go inside in Florida, 32 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: more air conditioning, greater spread of the virus. That's at 33 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: least the best theory out there for why this happens. 34 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: And now you've got COVID cases in Florida down over 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: fifty percent I think really over six he depends on 36 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: the timeframe using, but certainly over fifty percent in the 37 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: last two weeks from the high So what's going on here? 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: Why aren't they paying attention? Will you get an idea 39 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: of what's happening when you look at the way that 40 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: they're trying to demonize Ron de Santis. This is among 41 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: the most unintentionally hilarious and powerful for the person being 42 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: attacked political ads, either Clay or I have ever seen. 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: This is a new attack ad put out by remove 44 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: Ron on Twitter. I almost I want to check and 45 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: make sure they're not trying to not remove Ron, because 46 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: that's how this goes. You have to understand, now, I 47 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: know you're only going to hear this, but really juxtapose 48 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: what he's sang and the music. Juxtapose the fifty percent 49 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: drop in cases in recent weeks and what they're trying 50 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: to imply, and just understand. There's a lot of people 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: in masks in the video and everything, but the audio 52 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: does it pretty well. Here, readers and gentlemen, on behalf 53 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: of your cabin crew, we'd like to inform you that 54 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: we have officially entered Florida airspace. Now that we're making 55 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: our final dessent, please watch this short message from Governor 56 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: Ron's dessentis on COVID nineteen. Thereafter, everyone on board will 57 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: be required to comply with the States forever person. We 58 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 1: are not doing any vaccine passports in the state of Florida. 59 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: We trust people to make their own decisions in this state. 60 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: We are not going to be bludgeoning people with restrictions, mandates, 61 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: in lockdowns or any of that stuff. As Governor dessentis dated. 62 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: While you're within state line, do not have to wear 63 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: a mask. You do not have to get a vaccine. 64 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: It is against the law for private businesses or schools 65 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: to mandate masks or vaccine. And you have the absolute 66 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: right to affect whoever you want, whenever and wherever with 67 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. Thank you for traveling with them, enjoying your 68 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: floor ever. Purge, it's so nonsense. I mean, if Ronda 69 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: Santis had to pick his enemies and got to pick 70 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: the way that they were going to attack him. For 71 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: anybody who's seen the Purge movies, that's the trend line 72 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: that they're trying to tie into from a pop culture perspective. 73 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: But Buck, I think you know facts matter here. Only 74 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: eight states right now have a lower COVID infection rate 75 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: than Florida in the entire country, and Florida is down 76 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: over fifty percent in the past couple of weeks. So 77 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: the reason why I think all of this is significant 78 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: is one we told you exactly what was going to happen. 79 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: And this is why Florida is so threatening to so 80 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: many people in the Blue check mark brigade, to the 81 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: doctor Faucis of the world, to the Biden administration because 82 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: they didn't implement a mask mandate, because they didn't require 83 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: COVID vaccine passports, and the cases still came down. And 84 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: so what they try to do Buck is they try 85 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: to argue, and you know this, but I think there's 86 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: still people missing what exactly is going on. They implement 87 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: new policies, and then when the virus throw follows its 88 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: natural course, they argue that the policies they implemented are 89 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: the reason why the virus followed that course. If everybody 90 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: does it, then you end up with Australia where there 91 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: is no real test case scenario to say, hey, was 92 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: any of this actually necessary or beneficial. Florida has proven 93 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: how much of the fauciites are filled with emperors wearing 94 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: no clothes, like there's no legitimate basis whatsoever to virtually 95 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: any COVID restriction that has been put in place the 96 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: last eighteen months in terms of making us safer. And 97 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: you can see that there are some CDC studies too. 98 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: And just for anyone who's wondering, is the CDC politicize? 99 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: They put out a statement from their official this is 100 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: the Centers for Disease Control friends supposed to be about 101 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: the science. They put out a statement on Twitter about 102 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: pregnant people can't say pregnant. The Centers for Disease Control 103 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: will no longer say pregnant women because yes, it is 104 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: a fact it is the only people who can get 105 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: pregnant are women. I know, I know this is a 106 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: controversial thing on the left. Now, I understand that they 107 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: do not like this biological reality, but it remains true. Nonetheless, 108 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: that same CDC is riddled with politics, with politicization. And 109 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: you see this even with the way they're putting out 110 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: some of these studies now on masking in schools and outbreaks. 111 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: They're looking at places because we know the seasonality effect, 112 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: we know the band of where cases had been rising 113 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: over the summer, and so they're trying to say, CC, 114 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: look at what happened schools where there was less masking 115 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: in September. Have you know a higher probably or two 116 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: or three x the number of outbreaks something like this. 117 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: Let's see what these studies say on October and November 118 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: as COVID cases as they will rise through the middle 119 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: of the country and even up into New England and 120 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: even up into northern California in the Pacific Northwest. You're 121 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: going to see that rise all of a sudden, Clay. 122 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: They just won't cover it the same way they don't 123 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: cover Florida's seemingly miraculous drop in COVID cases after RHN 124 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: des Sentis was going around with a syringe apparently giving 125 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: everyone in Hawaii and Oregon and around the world COVID 126 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: this summer. I think it's super important to point out, 127 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: and I would love if somebody did a study on 128 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: the amount of stories discussing Florida's rising COVID rate and 129 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: the number that are written discussing Florida's plummet in COVID rate, 130 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: because in theory, the rise and the plummet would both 131 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: be newsworthy stories if you are going to determine that 132 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: the COVID infection rate overall is worthy of being covered 133 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: by the media. And I think you hit on a 134 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: good point, Buck, because kids in my county are not 135 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 1: wearing masks in schools by and large for the first 136 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: six weeks of school or whatever the heck it has been, 137 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: and cases all over the state of Tennessee have plummeted 138 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: the same kind of way that they've plummeted in Florida. 139 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: Now they are trying to say because just in the 140 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: last couple of days there's been a federal judge who 141 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: has mandated masks. Now they're already trying to argue, well, 142 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: the reason the cases are coming down is because there 143 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: was a mask mandate in schools, even though very few 144 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: kids are wearing masks and there's no mask bandid anywhere else. 145 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: I'd also want to know what is it about Europe 146 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: where apparently they can't they can't see the data clay 147 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: and understand what the fauciites in this country. We're basically 148 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: the only country in the world that masks up children 149 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: as aggressively and as crazily as we do. And this 150 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: is a this is at a point now where the 151 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: people that have been doing this, I think there's there's 152 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: a lot of repressed I'm just gonna I think there's 153 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: a lot of repressed shame from parents who have gone 154 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: along with all of this stuff and realize that they've 155 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: been kind of swindled, that this wasn't necessary that having 156 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, a little little Tommy or little Susie on 157 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: the playground choking through some dirty cloth mask all day 158 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: because doctor Fauci says it's going to keep them safe. 159 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: This was a sad and pathetic thing to do, and 160 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: parents should never have done it. And I think a 161 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: lot of people are clinging to the hope that they'll 162 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: find out that no, it actually was a good idea, 163 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: it was necessary, and we just have to tell everyone 164 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: the truth. It wasn't and it's not. And Buck, I 165 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: would tie this in. Remember when all of the playgrounds 166 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: got shut down, yep, they got They put crime scene 167 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: tape around playgrounds all over the country. Your three year 168 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: old couldn't get in a swing in a public park 169 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: and there was crime scene tape like there had been 170 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: eighty murders that had taken place on the playground. They 171 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: filled in with sand all of the skate parks. They 172 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: took rims off of basketball hoops so that nobody could 173 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: take a basketball out and shoot. All of it was mindless. 174 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: It made no difference. I think, Buck, not only and 175 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: this is sad. Are some people in denial because they 176 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: don't want to acknowledge they're wrong. I think a lot 177 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: of people still believe that kids are in danger, Like 178 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: they are so terrified that their kids are in mortal peril. 179 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: They don't know the data, they don't know the reality. 180 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: And that's why I remember I asked you that question 181 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: a couple of Rember been last week or a couple 182 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I said, what is your emotion when 183 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: you see people wearing masks outside? I feel sad for 184 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: them now. I used to be angry, and now I 185 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: feel sad because they're so emotionally and psychologically beaten down 186 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: and they can't even begin It's it's it's like they've 187 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: got some kind of a you know, a battered spot 188 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: syndrome going on with all this season and in New 189 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: York times fauciism, and now they're just it's like they're 190 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 1: paralyzed with us. I mean, the clay of all the 191 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: statistics we can give, and you've you've made sure that 192 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: we talk about the numbers frequently. The chance of a 193 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: child dying from COVID is literally one in a million, 194 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: one in a million. So when you're looking at it 195 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: that way, you start to say, hold on a second, 196 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: what exactly am I doing here, Why am I treating 197 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: my children like they're at extreme risk? And by the way, 198 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: they also know that it's unlikely they pass it to adults, 199 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: which we never hear that anymore. That used to be 200 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: what the science clearly said that children probably because their 201 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: immune systems clear it so quickly it's and have such 202 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: a low viral load because of it, we can actually 203 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: think through this, but they won't discuss that anymore. By 204 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: the way, we got Mansion right now speaking on the 205 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: infrastructure vote. What is he saying is the trillion dollars 206 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: plus of infrastructure going through we are Oh, Clay, I'm 207 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: seeing here. Strategic pause, he says, what is he really 208 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: saying about where this is going next? We're gonna to 209 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: hold everybody got put on my television, But that's a 210 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: heck of a tease. I'm actually getting out my television 211 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: remote to see what might be going on here. It's 212 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: how we roll in the Clay and Buck show on 213 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: the show. 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We have some breaking news for 244 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: you as the Infrastructure bill vote moves closer and closer. 245 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: Senator Joe Manchion right now speaking to media on Capitol Hill. 246 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: Big takeaway here headline is that Mansion has said he 247 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: will not support the three point five trillion dollars Bernie budget, 248 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: the Biden budget that they are trying to pass through reconciliation, 249 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: meaning they need at least fifty votes. Instead, he will 250 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: not go any higher than one point five trillion cost, 251 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: So he has knocked two trillion out of the would 252 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: be budget of Joe Biden. We're gonna go live you 253 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: can hear as he is surrounded by reporters and is 254 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: answering questions let's listen in live between you and anyone else, 255 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: not just time. They haven't. I mean people pretty much 256 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: know where I've been all along, and I've just said this. 257 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: If you don't had X amount of dollars in your 258 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: paycheck and you wanted to buy something, and not what 259 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: you wanted to buy was not affordable right now, you'd 260 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: save up and buy it later. That's all I'm saying. 261 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: So what's our priorities? Children, pre K I'm strong, I'm 262 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: prefacing childcare, child to spread. We can do that, but 263 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: do that in a compassionate way. Targeted. You have basically 264 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: the medium income as sixty eight thousand dollars in America. 265 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: Can't we use targeted? You have ninety million people that 266 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: have they filed tax me terms for fifty thousand dollars 267 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: or less. Let's target it. I don't think a person 268 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: that's making two, three, four hundred thousand or in as 269 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: much need as a person on the lower end. If 270 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: you have X amount, who DL That's all I'm saying. 271 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: Does the president need to take more leadership role here? 272 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: Maybe President has been presidents together. I've had great conversations 273 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: and the President. I admire the President. I really do, 274 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: and sometimes we have a different position or a different pathway. 275 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: But his compassion for our children, his compassion for child 276 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: tax credits for working families. I comment in and I 277 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: have the same passion. I might come out a little 278 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: bit different. Do I have the same passion send it 279 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: all about? I mean, you say that you've made yourself 280 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: very very clear this entire time, But you talk to 281 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: anybody over there and they say they had no idea 282 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: what you were wanting up until. Yes, I was hoping 283 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: I didn't. I guess maybe because we are far apart, 284 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: or what they consider far apart. I just think I've 285 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: always been of the inclination that in leadership, do you 286 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: take the do you take the wins when you can 287 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: receive them. You bring people together the best you can, 288 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: and you move forward. That's all. And we're there now 289 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: we can move forward. Hopefully we can't anyway. Do you 290 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: have a timeline on a deal? Do you have the 291 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: latest date you get this done? I time you? I 292 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: know that hold on luck you're using. I mean, I 293 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: think the President needs to come up here, sir. Conoluted. 294 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: The tax the tax code is the tax code. That's 295 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: what takes, gonna take some time, but this will do 296 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: in good faith. I'm trying to be as honest up 297 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: fun as that post number. We talked what did he know? 298 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: He and he he wants and he really sincere. He 299 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: would like to have a lot more than that. And 300 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: I supmoms to because I understand that that's just you know, 301 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: hopefully you can respect and he's always been so respectful. 302 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: He said, Hey, Joe, I'll never ask you to go 303 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: against your convictions. He says, I think we want a 304 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: lot of the same things. Do you want to help children, 305 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: want to help sings, want to help those in what 306 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm turnable. We want the rich to pay the fish share, 307 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: do the tax reform. I'm all for it. We want 308 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: we want to basically fix our drug prices to where 309 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: our medicare we should be able to. I've been very 310 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: passionate about that. If this takes, it's not going to 311 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: tank you. All right, let's let's come back in out 312 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: of that. That is all happening live right now on 313 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill. Buck big stuff. We got a lot to 314 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: talk about. We come back, big deal. We're going to 315 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: have to unpack this. But the storyline again, headline, Joe 316 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: Manchin has come out against the three point five trillion 317 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: he has cut two trillion in spending by himself, lots 318 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: to discuss. Studies show thirty percent of Americans suffer from 319 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: chronic pain every day. 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We had big breaking news for you 334 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: right a couple of minutes ago, still breaking now if 335 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: you're joining us, He hadn't heard it yet Senator Joe 336 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: Mansion of West Virginia coming out, and man, you will 337 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: be able to bathe in some leftist tiers, would you 338 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: when you hear this one? One point five trillion, Mansion 339 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: says is the price tag he would go for on 340 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: the reconciliation bill, two trillion dollars less than what Democrats 341 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: have been talking about now for weeks. Let's just be 342 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: very clear. That's that's the whole, the whole thing on 343 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: the reconciliation bill. That's that's the all in price tag. 344 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: He says, he'll go for one point five trillion. I 345 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: remember this is through reconciliation, so they can't lose a vote. 346 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they can't lose Mansion on this one. There's 347 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: nothing they can do with then try to force this 348 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: guy to change his too. And he just was out 349 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: on the steps of the Capitol. It was pretty fascinating. 350 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: Clay pointed out in the break how places it was amazing. 351 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: All the journalists were like, wait a second, sir, what 352 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: do you mean, what do you mean a journalist that 353 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm holding back tears because you're going to spend less 354 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: money and raise taxes less two. It's amazing, Buck, here's 355 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: a couple of other little nuggets that are dropping. This 356 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: is wild. On July twenty eighth of twenty twenty one, 357 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: Joe Joe Mansion told Senator Schumer that his top line 358 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: cost was one point five trillion and had Chuck Schumer 359 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: sign in writing what he was willing to sign for. 360 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: Have you seen this yet? It's just now ricocheing through Twitter. 361 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: So Schumer has not been willing to say publicly for months. 362 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: I mean, if he's if this document which is ricocheing 363 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: through and looks to be one hundred percent accurate July 364 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: twenty eight, twenty twenty one. According to this, Mansion said, 365 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: we can begin to debate on the reconciliation bill no 366 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: earlier than October first. Funds for the new legislation can't 367 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: be disbursed in all funding from the COVID legislation and 368 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: AARP has been spent. Any revenue exceeding one point five 369 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: trillion goes to deficit reduction. He says that he would support. 370 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: This is what Mansion has said so far. A corporate 371 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: tax rate of twenty five percent. What's it at right now? 372 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: About twenty one percent? I think is that? Yes? That 373 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: sounds right. I think it's twenty one a, raise the 374 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: top rate on ordinary income to thirty nine point six percent, 375 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: raise the capitol gains rate to twenty eight percent. All in, 376 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: these are things that and it says Senator Mansion does 377 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: not guarantee he will vote for the final reconciliation legislation 378 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: if it exceeds the conditions outlined in this agreement. So 379 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: they've known, So let's let's let's unpack for a second 380 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: the politics around this. That would mean Schumer and and 381 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: the I'm assuming Pelosi, the rest of them new at 382 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: some level, certainly leader Democrat leadership had to know that 383 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: he had a price tag all along. So they've been 384 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: making this promise to the letting. Now, there are a 385 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: couple of ways that this could be playing out. Right, 386 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: they put up the huge price tag so that they 387 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: actually create a pressure. Maybe they thought they could get 388 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: Mansion to move on this when this became so popular, 389 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: and you know, you never want to be the you 390 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: never want to be the real estate broker says I 391 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: got you a million dollar offer on your house and 392 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: then have to say, actually, it's a half a million dollars, right, 393 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: So maybe they thought that by pushing it publicly, the 394 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: overshooting here would pressure Mansion. The other option, Clay, I 395 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: don't know which one you think is more likely based 396 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: on this document, would be that Democrats wanted to just 397 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: go forward and talk about what their vision is, and 398 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: now they're going to have to tell the left wing base. 399 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: That's but yesterday there are people that were making the 400 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: case spend whatever amount of money. It doesn't matter that 401 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: that's what we've actually gone to. So called left wing 402 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: intellectuals will say three trillion, eight trillion, spend whatever you want, 403 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: as long as it's for a cause. We like that. 404 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: They're going to be disappointed, but at least it looks 405 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: like you tried. I mean, what do you think, why 406 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: would why would they do this? It's such a it's 407 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: such a great question. I think it's because they were 408 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: trying to get the infrastructure bill passed before this information 409 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: came out, and so they were trying to hide the 410 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: ball on the liberal This could provoke a democratic civil 411 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: war buck inside of the party, because if I'm let's 412 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: just kind of take a step back, it's a great question. 413 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: You're asking if I am a liberal member of the 414 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: Democratic Caucus, if I am the AOC brigade, the squad 415 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: in the House, and you have been trying to get 416 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: me to vote for this infrastructure bill while saying, hey, 417 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: we feel really good about the three point five trillion 418 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: on the budget. And in reality, since July you've signed 419 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: on to knowing that Joe Mansion will only agree to 420 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: one point five He might have been trying. They might, 421 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: I would bet Here's what I think happened. I think 422 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: they told Joe Mansion, Senator from West Virginia, don't say 423 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: anything publicly about your one point five trillion, the fact 424 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: that you're shaving two trillion off, right, don't say anything 425 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: at all about that, because we want to get the 426 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: infrastructure bill passed. We'll get the infrastructure bill passed, and 427 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: then you can go public with this, with your with 428 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: this position. I wonder on some level whether Mansion got 429 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: frustrated because people kept ripping him, saying, why won't he 430 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: give us a bottom line number, why won't he say 431 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: what he's actually in favor of, And finally he just 432 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: got fed up and he said, hey, let's release this 433 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: thing that we got signed back in July, because remember 434 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: he had to sign on to begin the budget reconciliation 435 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: process on three to five and so it looks to 436 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: me like he's been as upfront as possible. Schumer has 437 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: been hiding the ball. Now. I wonder all this drama, 438 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: what's going to happen with the infrastructure bill, because all 439 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: the squad members may roll out and say, we're not 440 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: supporting this, We're not getting what we wanted on the 441 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: Green New Deal and everything else in the budget. This 442 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: is this is kind of the Afghan withdrawal version of 443 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: budget recratulation from the Democrats. Everyone's looking at this saying, wow, 444 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: this whole thing is coming apart. With all of that said, 445 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: also worth noting here that one point five trillion dollars 446 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: a lot of money, is a lot of money everybody. 447 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: As I was saying just yesterday on this show Clay, 448 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: the Tea Party movement was spurred by a trillion. It 449 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: was actually less. I think it was nine hundred billion 450 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: in in spending by the Obama administration as part of 451 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: the so called stimulus, right, remember all that that's what 452 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: And a lot of that was, you know, extension of 453 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: unemployment benefits and welfare spending and things of that nature. 454 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,959 Speaker 1: Social welfare spending they call it, right, A lot of it. 455 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: There was a shovel ready job stuff that we're actually 456 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: shovel ready. We all remember that. But it's still a 457 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: lot of money. So I mean, you know, there's there's 458 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,479 Speaker 1: also at some level, maybe this is a Motte and 459 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: Bailey situation. People are familiar with the Motte and Bailey argument. 460 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: Right where you you make a a it's a reference 461 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: to the medieval fortification. Um, I don't think most people 462 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: are familiar with that reference. I'm gonna split a little 463 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: bit so you have the modern familiar with it. It's 464 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: like it's like you go really far with the argument 465 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: and you know you won't be able to defend that. 466 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: But then the keep of the castle, so to speak, 467 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: the center of it. You say, well, now I'm being reasonable. Right, 468 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: So you know, you go to someone you say, hey, Clay, 469 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: you know I'll offer you, uh, you know, I'll offer 470 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: you five times what your house actually costs, right, and 471 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: you go yes. Anyway, The point being you make you 472 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: make the argument, seeing give yourself space to look reason. 473 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: That's right. The secondary argument becomes the reasonable argument, even 474 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: though the first argument you put out there was absurd. 475 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: You say you want three point five trillion, You get 476 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: everybody used to that and then you back down. All 477 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: crowds are so upset about the one point five trillion 478 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: dollars of clay they spent like six trillion during COVID, 479 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: So I mean that's also a possibility here. Maybe it's all, yeah, 480 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: the squad. The squad's upset that we're not all commies. 481 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's like we can't take them that so well, 482 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: they actually and this is the question. We're going to 483 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: continue to talk about this, and for a lot of people, 484 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: I think at the top of the second hour, we 485 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: need to kind of reset what's actually at stake here 486 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: because it's gotten so confusing. We'll play you some cuts 487 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: from Joe Manchin when we come back to close out 488 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: the hour. This is breaking news as the Biden legislative 489 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: policies are really kind of going to be determined. I 490 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: think in the next twenty four hours. Yeah, there's no 491 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: chance they don't pass anything right now. I think that 492 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: just looks too catastrophic. So they're gonna have to If 493 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: they're firm on the price tag, I think they got 494 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: to take the lower price tag. I mean, we'll see. 495 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: That's why I think the question is, is the pride 496 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: of the squad that they feel like they were lied 497 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: to by Pelosi and Schumer. If this signed agreement is 498 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: in place, there, I mean, this is I just I 499 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: love all this. There is so much to discuss here. 500 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: In the meantime, we gotta tell you, by the way, 501 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: Pure Talk cell phone service making a lot of noise, 502 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: great noise. 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And I want to play you 541 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: the clips of Joe Mansion just now talking with the 542 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: media outside the Capitol building. Here is cut thirty seven 543 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: as he discusses his position. We have to take all 544 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: this in consideration. We have a lot of good things 545 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: we can do. And here's the thing, My goodness, you 546 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: have an infrastructure bill, You've got this bill we have 547 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: right now, and we have a reconciliation bill. I'm willing 548 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: to sit down and I'm working at a one point 549 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: five to get our bar priorities, and they can come 550 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: back and do later and they can run on the 551 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: rest of sec the later. I think there's a many 552 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: ways to get to where they want to just funding 553 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: everything at one time. So he's basically saying, hey, make 554 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 1: it an issue in twenty twenty two if you think 555 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: you can get to three point five trillion. Also said 556 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: we only have fifty votes, which is why they're moving 557 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: through in the budget reconciliation process. By the way, Worth 558 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: mentioning buck, we still haven't heard what Kursten Cinema's demands 559 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: are because she also has been very outspoken in not 560 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: supporting the three five, but we haven't heard what she 561 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: has demanded. Isn't an amazing that the way the psychology 562 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: of the Democrats has worked up to this point, the 563 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: way the Democrat Party has presented this, it's as though 564 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: they have a mandate to spend three point five trillion 565 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: dollars in addition to the trillion dollars infrastructure bill, by 566 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: the way, I mean even just breaking up these two things. 567 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: And this is a little bit of what has I 568 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: think intentional here, because you say, wait a second, is 569 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: at one point five trillion inclusive of infrastructures that no, no, 570 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: there's there's the one point five trillion dollars infrastructure package. 571 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: And now we're saying there's a one point five trillion 572 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: dollar cap on the reconciliation budget all in, and people 573 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: are saying, well, hold on a second, what's really going 574 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: on here? McClay three point five trillion dollars plus a 575 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: trullion dollars is bonkers. That's what Democrats I've been talking about, 576 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: like it's normal for weeks and weeks now, one point 577 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: five trillion dollars on anything of additional spending is a 578 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: lot of money. So this is where you start to realize, 579 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: hold on our whole frame of reference here, the Overton 580 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: window of this discussion is expanded beyond what anybody should 581 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: think is is rational or normal? Right, I mean, so 582 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: this is this is fiscal sanity. Oh, it's only gonna 583 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: be a one point five trillion dollar reconciliation bill. Well, 584 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: the big again, we need to lay all this out. 585 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: The big question here now is timing, because the closer 586 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: you get to twenty twenty two, the more difficult it 587 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: is to actually push anything through. And again, what is 588 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: the relationship going to be between the liberal wing of 589 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. I think we're probably going to hear 590 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: them speak out now that Joe Manchin has officially said, hey, 591 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm only good for one five, And part of me 592 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: wonders this, does Joe Mansion partly hope that nothing happens 593 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: because he's called for a strategic pause. Is he in 594 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: some way speaking out now to potentially blow up all 595 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: of this and get to go back to the drawing 596 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: board and essentially be the most powerful politician in the country. 597 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: Right now, let's be clear about something Joe Mansion right 598 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: now is far more powerful than Joe Biden is. Man. 599 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: Just think about this. Joe Mansion controls the purse strings 600 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: of the entire United States government right now. He in 601 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: christ Kursten Cinema because we're in a deadlocked fifty fifty 602 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: Senate buck. The ultimate Trump card Joe Mansion has is 603 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: not only repudiating the three point five trillion. He's going 604 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: to be up for reelection in West Virginia in twenty 605 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: twenty four. He's a Democrat in the state that Donald 606 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: Trump won more votes age wise then anywhere in the country. 607 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: What if Joe Mansion said, hey, I might flip to 608 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: be a Republican and then control of the Senate goes 609 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: back to the Republicans, and so Democrats don't have a 610 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: strong heart hand at all here to play. There's also 611 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: there's also reporting that Mansion will only go forward with 612 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: this as well if the High Amendment is part of 613 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: the support for this. It's a legislative provision that bars 614 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: the use of federal funds for abortion. So that's a 615 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: big deal. That's going to be a big deal going 616 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: into this year where it looks like abortion and row 617 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,479 Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade are going to get a real look 618 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: by the Supreme Court for the first time in decades. 619 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: So it's it's amazing to see him and Joe Mansion. 620 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: This is the quote from me. He said, I've never 621 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: been a liberal in any way, shape or form. So 622 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: if a this is this is a great line. If 623 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: progressives want a bigger reconciliation bill, elect more liberals. I mean, 624 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: he's straight up saying like, this is not me, It's 625 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: not what I'm about gonna do it. So Clay, I 626 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: don't see a way where he can back off of this, 627 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: and why would he really? And you know, you've got 628 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: one point five trillion in the reconciliation bill that he's 629 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: now saying he'll go forward with, and that Democrats are 630 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: going to act like this is some kind of great 631 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: betrayal when they don't have a mandate. I mean, this 632 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: is as narrowly divided a Congress as you could basically 633 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 1: conjure fifty fifty in the Senate a handful in the House. 634 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: Why given that there's such a lack of I mean, 635 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: they keep saying it's popular, they'll use this terminal time. 636 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: These are popular ideas, well, then why can't it get 637 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: through why aren't if it's so popular, Republicans like getting 638 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: votes too. They're just this is narrative creation. This is 639 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: what folks. We'll break all this down for you coming 640 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: back in a minute. By the way, if you've got 641 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: an idea about the strategy here, you think Mansion's deploying 642 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: or what the Democrats were doing, I love to hear 643 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: from you, because this is just this has turned a 644 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: whole he canon Bold into the pool. Oh yeah, splashed 645 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: a lot of Democrats. Eight hundred two eight two two 646 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: eighty two. We got some of your calls the next 647 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: hour got the Mansion, the Mansion press conference he just 648 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: held out on the steps of the Capitol, where he 649 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: said that he's got a top line. Clayle worked through 650 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: some of the numbers on that with us. We come 651 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: back also COVID. Where is it right now? It's not 652 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: edding Florida the way it used to be. Why is 653 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: the media talking about it? We'll return to that important 654 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: story and much more coming up here in just a 655 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 1: few minutes. Remember eight hundred two two two eight two 656 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: on the phone lines, what happens to the Biden agenda, reconciliation, 657 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: the whole Democrat agenda, we'll get into that in just 658 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: a few minutes. You're listening to Clay Travis and Buck 659 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: Sexton fund the EIB network.