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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone. It is the local Toyted Dealers KSR postgame show.

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Speaker 1: The Cats get embarrassed today against Louisville in a rivalry

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Speaker 1: game in Lexington forty one to fourteen. You can give

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Speaker 1: the shout, Billy, hold the phones, we'll open them right

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Speaker 1: after this first segment. I guess the way to talk

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Speaker 1: about this is kind of three parts. I mean, we'll

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Speaker 1: start talk a little bit about the game, and then

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Speaker 1: I want to sort of talk about state of the program,

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Speaker 1: and then I think we need to talk about what

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Speaker 1: Mark Soups said after the game. So let's start with

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Speaker 1: the game. The game was a disaster. It was clear

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Speaker 1: from the opening that Kentucky wasn't ready to play and

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Speaker 1: Louisville was significantly better. It was twenty to nothing at halftime,

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Speaker 1: but honestly, it could have been forty to nothing. Louisville

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Speaker 1: twice had drive sty mead right at the end, they

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Speaker 1: made a turnover. I mean, Louisville should have been ahead

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Speaker 1: even more than the were in the second half. Kentucky

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Speaker 1: got a glimmer of hope when they scored the touchdown

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Speaker 1: to make it twenty to seven. Defense got a stop.

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Speaker 1: You had a moment where Kentucky could get back in

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Speaker 1: the game, and then will Cox had his second fumble.

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Speaker 1: Five turnovers during the game. Obviously you're not gonna win

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Speaker 1: with five turnovers. Stoops talked a lot about the five

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Speaker 1: turnovers after kind of being the key. But to me,

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Speaker 1: the five turnovers took a game where we were still

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Speaker 1: gonna lose and just made it to where we got

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Speaker 1: blown out. Louisville was better and for a person, if

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Speaker 1: you have watched these games over the years, it's always

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Speaker 1: been interesting to me with the Louisville games because louis

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Speaker 1: was the one team we play that because they're in

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Speaker 1: another conference. It's a good gauge kind of of where

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Speaker 1: we are. So there have been years where we're in

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Speaker 1: the bottom half of the SEC but still beat Louisville,

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Speaker 1: a team that's usually in the top half of the ACC,

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Speaker 1: and you go, okay, well that goes to show you

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Speaker 1: not this year. I mean, if you start with you know,

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Speaker 1: the year we beat Lamar we lost the next year,

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Speaker 1: but really start with that year and go on, you

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Speaker 1: can see the decline of the Kentucky football program based

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Speaker 1: on these Louisville games. I mean, we have we went

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Speaker 1: from three or four years when they were really good,

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Speaker 1: playing them neck and neck, winning some, losing some to

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Speaker 1: four or five years where we dominated to now where

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Speaker 1: we're getting dominated. And I would argue this Louisville team

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Speaker 1: is not as good as the Lamar era Louisville teams,

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Speaker 1: and while better than the last few, I think they

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Speaker 1: were just as talented, if not better last year. And

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Speaker 1: we beat them handily last year and they beat us

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Speaker 1: handily this year. So that's where we are. It was

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Speaker 1: a disaster. And to Louisville, first time they've won in

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Speaker 1: six years. Congrats to them. They deserve it. And you know,

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Speaker 1: they stopped us on our home field. So that's part one.

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Speaker 1: Terrible performance all the way around, and a fan base,

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Speaker 1: by the way, that still didn't fill it up, still

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Speaker 1: showed up. But that's eight straight home losses against power

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Speaker 1: four teams, eight straight home losses. You can never complain

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Speaker 1: about the Kentucky fans when they've had to go eight

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Speaker 1: times to big games and watch eight straight losses. All right,

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Speaker 1: Second part, stay the program. Let's assume that Mark Stoops

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Speaker 1: had made no comments after the game. Let's assume we

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Speaker 1: had no idea what the future of the program was,

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Speaker 1: because I thought that might be the case, and I

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Speaker 1: a massive decline in the program, not just on the field,

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Speaker 1: a bad year. I could make that claim, and I

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Speaker 1: good this year, he gets a year. My problem, though,

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Speaker 1: My problem goes to some more culture parts around the program.

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Speaker 1: We didn't just go four and eight. We had games

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Speaker 1: gets to part two, which is the culture around Kentucky

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Speaker 1: which was probably the best selling point for Mark Stoops.

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Speaker 1: If you were if you were trying to say why

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Speaker 1: you would point to the culture. You would point to

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Speaker 1: the announcer today say I'm shocked to watch Kentucky. I

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Speaker 1: didn't used to happen. And it's a culture problem. And

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Speaker 1: the culture problem is extending way beyond just what we're

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Speaker 1: There has been a massive drop, in my opinion, in

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Speaker 1: That's been gone the last two years. And all you

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Speaker 1: all tell you that. Ask players, ask coaches, as administrators,

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Speaker 1: they'll tell you that. And Mark's reaction to that has

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Speaker 1: too often been to basically blame resources. And I will

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Speaker 1: You know, earlier this year Mark had a very what

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, blah blah. To whatever extent that's true,

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Speaker 1: that was the whiniest thing I've heard a coach say,

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Speaker 1: that was ridiculous. Now, Kentucky doesn't have the resources necessarily

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Speaker 1: you've blown it. And you can't talk about resources when

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Speaker 1: you gave your highest nil payments ever in the last year.

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Speaker 1: You just picked the wrong guys, and that's on you,

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Speaker 1: And that's on the people that picked the guys. You

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Speaker 1: that after the game, but like when he was winding

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll continue to do ads for inile funds

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Speaker 1: but like, do you does that feel deserved after what's happened?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, I get what people are frustrated.

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Speaker 1: You know, the football fan base is different than the

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Speaker 1: I can say. I did the same thing with cal Perry.

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Speaker 1: Do not tell me you're making nine million dollars and

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Speaker 1: it's hard. It's supposed to be hard. It's supposed to

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Speaker 1: be hard, and you failed this year. So in terms

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Speaker 1: the next few years building it? Because, as I've talked about,

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Speaker 1: all being on television. I think there are like these

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Speaker 1: so the question becomes, now that we're entering you know,

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Speaker 1: but you got to know what you're getting into, and

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Speaker 1: you can't say like, oh, I don't like this anymore.

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Speaker 1: This is what it is, which gives me to number three,

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Speaker 1: which is Mark's comments. Now I'm gonna play you. He

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Speaker 1: said a lot today, you know. He said Cutter will

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Speaker 1: be back, that Cutter is the future. He said that

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Speaker 1: he wants there's gonna be a lot of turnover in

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Speaker 1: terms of the roster. He I think hented maybe some

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Speaker 1: But I think the most important comment is a comment

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Speaker 1: about his future. And I've gotten Billy to pull the

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Speaker 1: Tom Leach. So here I'm gonna play the entirety of

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Speaker 1: Lighting up at this point of including people saying Billy,

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Speaker 1: It remains it remains good. One person rights Matt, we

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Speaker 1: we're gonna sit here and act like he couldn't do

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Speaker 1: it here, you know. So I can't say that. Plus,

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Speaker 1: to be fair to Bush, Liam brought in Brock, and

431
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Speaker 1: Brock is not the quarterback for the scheme that Bush has,

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Speaker 1: so that that kind of is what it is. So

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Speaker 1: maybe we bring him back and it doesn't work. Here's

434
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Speaker 1: the way I'd put If Mark Stupis comes back and

435
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Speaker 1: the offense is as bad this year as it was

436
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Speaker 1: last year, he won't be the head coach here and

437
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Speaker 1: Bush won't have the job, so like if he's gonna

438
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Speaker 1: be putting his career in Bush's hands. But I also

439
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: think you can't have like six different offensive coordinators in

440
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Speaker 1: six years and think things are gonna be good. I

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Speaker 1: just don't think you can. Who's next? Rocco, Rocco? What's up? Roco?

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Speaker 9: Hey?

443
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Speaker 10: I'm all right?

444
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Speaker 11: How you doing?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 10: First home caller?

447
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Speaker 1: Also, so who are.

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Speaker 12: All right?

449
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 10: Thank you?

450
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 9: Uh?

451
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Speaker 10: And I was saying, like I heard Stoops say he

452
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Speaker 10: just didn't really matter who the quarterback was this year

453
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Speaker 10: since they were under distress all time always, so it

454
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Speaker 10: didn't matter.

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Speaker 13: Who he twit back there.

456
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Speaker 10: So it made sense, like why he knows he's got

457
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Speaker 10: to make a.

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Speaker 13: Change of offense the line coach.

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Speaker 1: Or he has to change the offensive line coach. And

460
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Speaker 1: I know it's his body and I get that, but

461
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Speaker 1: like you can't justify that offensive line. And I kind

462
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Speaker 1: of agree with him, like Brock may just not be

463
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Speaker 1: the guy, But how could we know everybody got the

464
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Speaker 1: crap beat out of him? Like how would you even.

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Speaker 14: Know you're right?

466
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Speaker 10: It seems like though in the in the porter, these

467
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Speaker 10: other teams have gotten a quarterback maybe not whatever, like

468
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Speaker 10: Fandy got one on Georgia tech guy one or it

469
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Speaker 10: seemed like these guys that have done good, you know whatever, well.

470
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Speaker 1: But Devin Leary think about this, Devin Leary is in

471
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Devin Leary is on an NFL roster. Right

472
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Speaker 1: Brock Vandergriff, Maybe he was a bust, but like he

473
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Speaker 1: almost won the job at Georgia. He was a five

474
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Speaker 1: star war cutter. Bowley played I had and got knocked

475
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Speaker 1: out tonight. I mean, there comes a point like at

476
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Speaker 1: some point, maybe it's not them, it's the offensive line.

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Speaker 15: Maybe you're right, You're you're right, That's what I'm saying.

478
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Speaker 10: I was at the game and it was like the

479
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Speaker 10: first series, great fumble whatever, but then it's like he

480
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Speaker 10: just quit.

481
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Speaker 15: Like it was like all of a.

482
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Speaker 10: Sudden first down run, first down run, first time run.

483
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Speaker 10: It's like he quit, like they just gave up on whatever,

484
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Speaker 10: Like he just didn't have enough time to do anything.

485
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Speaker 10: So it's like they couldn't mix it up, couldn't, you know,

486
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Speaker 10: couldn't do anything, seemed like, so it's like it was

487
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Speaker 10: a lost call. I was there, so it was like

488
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Speaker 10: it was it was cold, but.

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Speaker 1: It was very cold. Anybody aware by the way you

490
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Speaker 1: do want stoops. Okay, so you're are you good? Are

491
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Speaker 1: you happy to wear in the news? Are you okay?

492
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Speaker 10: I did like what he said and that I like

493
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Speaker 10: that he said. I'm I'm I'm burning, I fire, I

494
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Speaker 10: want to get back to work.

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Speaker 7: I agree with I love that.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I mean, I think Soups has done things

497
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Speaker 10: at our school we ain't never seen. I mean you've

498
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Speaker 10: said at many times, like no one's won games like

499
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Speaker 10: he's won here. It's never had.

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Speaker 13: I mean, it's very very hard.

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Speaker 10: It's just like next year we could be the South

502
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Speaker 10: Carolina maybe, like like Soups said, that was a good

503
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Speaker 10: play mate, Like they wasn't in a bowl last year

504
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Speaker 10: and then this year they won nine games.

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Speaker 1: They did. So you're right, and I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 1: I think what you said is a good case for it.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I would ark. Here's here's my only question.

508
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Speaker 1: It's not often that you see a coach have a

509
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Speaker 1: lot of success. Hit hit a down, hit a valley,

510
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Speaker 1: and the bounce back up to where he was. I'm

511
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Speaker 1: not gonna say it never happens, but it doesn't happen

512
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Speaker 1: a lot. Usually you hit the valley at the beginning

513
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Speaker 1: and then you build it up. So he acknowledged failure,

514
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Speaker 1: and I appreciate that, like he I'm glad he did that.

515
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Speaker 1: But it's weird though, like will he actually change or

516
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: will he just say, we screwed that up? You know,

517
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Speaker 1: we got the wrong players, but now we'll get the

518
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Speaker 1: right players. And I'm still gonna do everything the same way.

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Speaker 1: And it's gonna work because if he does that, he's

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00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: gonna fail. But if he sits back and goes, Okay,

521
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Speaker 1: this was handled poorly recently, let's start over, then maybe

522
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Speaker 1: that can be successful. You don't see a lot of

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Speaker 1: people who are very successful in life do that self examination.

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Speaker 1: But if he does, maybe I hope it works out.

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Speaker 1: Who's next?

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Speaker 16: Ryan is next?

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Speaker 1: Ryan? Go ahead? Ryan?

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Speaker 14: Hey? Doing Matt the way I said. I've been filing

529
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Speaker 14: Kentucky Sports. I'm seventy one years old. I see the

530
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 14: same old thing. I'm tired of hearing that stuff. I'm

531
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Speaker 14: going to work. He does the same thing. He said,

532
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Speaker 14: what five or six offensive coordinators he handcuffed? Somebody won't

533
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Speaker 14: let them do their job, and I'm tired of it.

534
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Speaker 14: I'm sick of it. They need to find another coach.

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Speaker 14: I don't know how they're going to do it, Matt,

536
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Speaker 14: but you're the only guy that stepped up. Said they

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Speaker 14: got that in at nil going Mitch Barnhart, he didn't

538
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Speaker 14: want to do it now, Butch Barnhart made a couple

539
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Speaker 14: good hires.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 14: Coach Pope, I acknowledge I was wrong about Coach Pope

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Speaker 14: and Coach Brooks, the women's coach. He needs to go.

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Speaker 14: They and sense of coach Charmon or whatever his name was.

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Speaker 14: Once he's left, he's they went downhill. And you're right

545
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Speaker 14: everything you said. You've been right about Coach cow I

546
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Speaker 14: stood up for him.

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Speaker 6: I liked him.

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Speaker 14: He treated me good. I never met him in person,

549
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Speaker 14: but he always treated me good. I met all you guys.

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Speaker 14: You know me, oh man, white headed guy. You know me,

551
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Speaker 14: and I've been calling your show for years. You're right,

552
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 14: and he needs to go, which Barnhard if he don't

553
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 14: want to get rid of me, Coach Tuchty to step

554
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 14: up and retire or go someplace else.

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Speaker 3: That's all I got to say.

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Speaker 14: Thanks for checking my call.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I you mentioned with Pope and Brooks.

558
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: All right, So Pope and Brooks were two new hires

559
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: who boy they look good so far, and they both

560
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: have said, all right, this is a new era, this

561
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: is an nil era, this is an analytic era. I'm

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Speaker 1: taking it head on and I'm embracing it, and here

563
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: we go. And it's worked out so far. It's early

564
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: in both of their tenures, but they're both undefeated. Basketball

565
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Speaker 1: is probably gonna be number four. Women's basketball is gonna

566
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Speaker 1: be in the top ten next week. Mark Stoops has

567
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Speaker 1: got to reinvent himself to approach things like Pope and

568
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Speaker 1: Brooks are approaching. That's just a fact, because the way

569
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Speaker 1: he did things seven or eight years ago, you can't

570
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: do it anymore. You can't do it anymore. And the

571
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: offensive line is huge. As somebody pointed out to me

572
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Speaker 1: a few minutes ago, they haven't had one successful offensive

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Speaker 1: line recruit, like really successful in three four years, not

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Speaker 1: one like really successful. And that's out in the heels

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Speaker 1: of when Charman was a coach, having what we put

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Speaker 1: like six in the NFL in four years. We put

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Speaker 1: more in the NFL in four years than we had

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Speaker 1: in our entire history prior, and now since then, it's

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Speaker 1: fallen off a cliff.

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Speaker 16: Who's next, Andrew.

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Speaker 1: Andrew A five nine two eight twenty two eighty seven

582
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Speaker 1: go ahead.

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Speaker 9: So for me, there's a turning point in the season.

584
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Speaker 9: Was at halftime of the Tennessee game. I don't know

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Speaker 9: if people also listen to this, but when Susan's get

586
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Speaker 9: an interview, when he walked off the field, he made

587
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Speaker 9: a couple points to talk about how we were banged up.

588
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 9: We were winning the game at Tennessee. Tennessee had missed

589
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Speaker 9: two field goals and they had that end of the

590
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Speaker 9: half debacle, and they also fumbled at midfield, and he

591
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Speaker 9: brought up us being banged up. For me, as someone

592
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Speaker 9: who's fires to work in football one day, that is

593
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Speaker 9: a loser's mentality to be talking about how we're banged up.

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Speaker 9: We were winning the game at Tennessee and he's talking

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Speaker 9: about our injuries. Nobody feels sorry for you. You play

596
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Speaker 9: in the SEC. Nobody takes him to the Wow, Kentucky's

597
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 9: banged up. I feel sorry for Mark Stewkes. Nobody says that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I listen, I appreciate the call. It's weird.

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Speaker 1: Mark Stoops has two qualities that are kind of in

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Speaker 1: opposition to each other. He does take responsibility, but then

601
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Speaker 1: he also makes excuses. I mean, how many times have

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Speaker 1: we heard him say something to the effect of, you

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Speaker 1: can't make excuses. I take responsibility.

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Speaker 16: But and then Billy, what happened, but I don't apologize.

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00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: But excuse it's like you, it's but I don't apology.

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00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: That's right. I mean I've heard him over the years

607
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Speaker 1: say in some form, it's my responsibility. He says that.

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Speaker 1: I give him credit for that. He says it all

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00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: the time. But do to do, to do, to do

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00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: to do? That's a that is that's Mark's thing. And

611
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: those two things kind of hit on each other, like

612
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: is it your responsibility or is it this other thing's fault?

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00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: You know, it is what it is. Conference is hard,

614
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: but you went one and seven. Conference is very difficult.

615
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: But we came in fifteenth out of sixteen teams, So

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Speaker 1: it's got to be better than that. Billy, let me

617
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Speaker 1: ask you, because I did all the talking, where are

618
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Speaker 1: you on all this.

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Speaker 16: Frustrating?

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Speaker 17: I mean, it's extremely frustrating, There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 17: I mean, I don't think you can throw away the

622
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 17: past two seven and six seasons as well, and you

623
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Speaker 17: kind of saved your season last year by beating UL

624
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 17: so I mean it hasn't lived up to standard. But

625
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 17: you know, we get all really mean around this time

626
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Speaker 17: of the year. We say a lot of things that

627
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Speaker 17: I think we might regret looking back many months down

628
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Speaker 17: the line. I mean, Stupent's done a lot for this program,

629
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Speaker 17: like what do you mean? Just like people online and

630
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 17: things like that, just just being really, really mean and

631
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Speaker 17: forgetting probably the first ten years of the stups era

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Speaker 17: here at Kentucky. But I know that what have you

633
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 17: done for me lately? And even though there were a

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Speaker 17: good times.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that people are people can be very

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00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: mean and they do forget. He's done a million good

637
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Speaker 1: things for this school and has been arguably the most

638
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: successful coach since Bear Bryant. But does it matter if

639
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: the game, if the sport is completely different than it

640
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Speaker 1: was three years ago? Now?

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Speaker 16: Probably not, And that's probably the biggest sticking point.

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Speaker 1: And until at the end of the day, like that,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, this is not the

644
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Speaker 1: same sport it was three or four years ago.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and he's going to show you a change a

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Speaker 16: little bit.

647
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Speaker 1: Indiana going from what were they five and seven to

648
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: eleven and one in one year like that couldn't have

649
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: happened ten years ago, but it can happen now and

650
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: you have to like judge it based on that now

651
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: because it's a different world. So who's next?

652
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 16: Chip is next?

653
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: Chip? Go ahead? Chip?

654
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: Hey, what's going on?

655
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: Matt?

656
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: I just want to shout out to Billy.

657
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 5: Respect.

658
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: I respect that to you sometimes and not apologize and

659
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: sometimes you got to stand by.

660
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: What you do.

661
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, damn right, Chip. I just wanted to say,

662
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 3: all right, I just wanted to say I was listening

663
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 3: to uh Saban and start before on college game, did

664
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: they talk about the keys to the game. I agree

665
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: with you, Matt. We need to move on. You know,

666
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: Stoops is gonna be there next year. We got to

667
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: embrace it. But we got to look at what what

668
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: actions will he take this offseason that will make us

669
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 3: think all right, yeah we're on the right track, or

670
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: all right, no, he's he to hang them up. Question

671
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 3: it's got to be it's got to be old line,

672
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 3: top down, has got to be redone. I mean, yeah, yeah,

673
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: your quarterbacks are in the rest, Well, what are you

674
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: going to do to fix it? Like you know, from

675
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 3: the top down, the old line has got to come back,

676
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: because I mean, the big blue wall. I mean, that's

677
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 3: what we're known for, you know, and and up front

678
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball. I think we're gonna

679
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: have a hard time rebuilding that. And then, uh, I

680
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 3: absolutely agree with you. Brad White is an amazing, amazing

681
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 3: defensive coach, and I mean, but it's hard for our

682
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: defense with what little depth we have to play when

683
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: you know, you get offensive that can't come out and

684
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: you know, you know.

685
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: You're exactly we put them on the field a lot.

686
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: We put them on the field a lot. You're exactly right.

687
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate cause I think that's a really good point.

688
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: You know, you can't you can't. I mean we have

689
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: when you when you say, well you gave up forty

690
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: one points. We did, and I think the defense it's

691
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: kind of quit in the second half. But we all

692
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: say five turnovers. You know, at some point when you

693
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: have five turnovers, how many times a you're gonna ask

694
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: the defense to bail you out? Like you only have

695
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: so many choices chances at that. So, uh, two eighty seven,

696
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: let's take a break. I have a lot of you

697
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: saying talking to me about a video of a player

698
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: being in the concession line.

699
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 16: Yeah, I saw that.

700
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: I hope that's not true. That would be that's but

701
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: it's part of what I'm saying. And at the end

702
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: of the day, the culture around the program, to me,

703
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: is a bigger issue than even the offensive line, because

704
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: you can replace offensive linemen, you cannot replace a culture.

705
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: Culture is a hard thing to build, and it's an

706
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: easy thing to ruin. You can take a lifetime to

707
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: build up a culture, and you can ruin it with

708
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: one really bad day. And that's what I worry about

709
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: honestly going forward. If I'm nine to eighth twenty two

710
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: eighty seven, we'll take a break. Right back, it's the

711
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: Local Toy Dealers KSR post game show. Look, I'm back,

712
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: it is the Local Toy Dealers KSR postgame show. If

713
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, I

714
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: want to thank all the Louisville folks that are listening, Billy,

715
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: who are riding me saying you beat us thirty eight

716
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: thirty one, we beat you forty one fourteen. You are

717
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: right about that. I was thinking of two years ago,

718
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: so you're correct. My bad. I was thinking of the

719
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: number of years we kind of ran all over you.

720
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: But you're right. Last year's game was closer, I believe,

721
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,479
Speaker 1: didn't Louisville louivill had a big lead and we came back.

722
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: Is that what happened last year? I believe?

723
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 16: So that was the right, right Davis?

724
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: So did we have a big lead and then they

725
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: came back? I can't remember either way. You're right, got

726
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: to score wrong. Wish I could be as perfect as

727
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: you all and never make a mistake. I like the

728
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: people A lot of people play the video I have

729
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: Billy where I said we could go nine and three,

730
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: which was not obviously didn't end up happening.

731
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 16: You work in the hype business.

732
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: You know what. Here's the thing, Billy though about that video.

733
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: I take responsibility, but I do not appos hold. I'm

734
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: just kidding, Like, uh, I mean, you know, very good.

735
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: South Carolina went nine and three like it was there

736
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: to do. We just didn't do it, but it was

737
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: there to do South Carolina. You know how last year

738
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: we said Missouri had the season we wanted to have. Yeah,

739
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: South Carolina had the season we wanted to have. This year,

740
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: to their credit, I mean they went and had the

741
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: season we hope to have. So uh So that video,

742
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean, people take that out of context that video.

743
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: I was saying, I don't think we'll do this, but

744
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: nevertheless they leave that part out. But I take responsibility, Billy.

745
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 16: But I do not.

746
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: Up next, Chris? Is next? Chris? What's up? Chris?

747
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 6: Hey, Matt? I just think about when Coach Pope came

748
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 6: on board, he would talk about entitlement versus gratitude. Yeah,

749
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 6: I think Coach Doups needs to listen to that and

750
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 6: take that to heart. The other thing I'll say is

751
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 6: when we talk about culture of a program, when we

752
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 6: talk about these things and life's not easy, but disordering

753
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 6: a man's life and impact a lot of areas. And

754
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 6: I just think we got to write the ship and

755
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 6: it's it's been a tough season.

756
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: It's been a very tough season. And you're right, I mean,

757
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: that's exactly right. And the entitlement versus gratitude I think

758
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: is a good Are you suggesting, sir with that when

759
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: it comes to Stoops or when it comes to the

760
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: fans with Stoops? I agree with you. I agree with that.

761
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there has been a sense of

762
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, when I will say I didn't feel this

763
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: about his quotes today, but his quotes earlier in the year.

764
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: There was a lot of entitlement. I think in what

765
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: he what he said right, and yeah, but I.

766
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 6: Always paid the pony up. I always had the pony up.

767
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 1: I always hated it. I did too, and I hate

768
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: that I'm out here on an island. I hated that.

769
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: And I'll even say today, even though ninety I don't

770
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: want to pick on him because eighty to ninety percent

771
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: of what he said I thought was good. But then

772
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: he also threw in there, I've done stuff nobody else

773
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: here has, like we know, you don't need to tell us.

774
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: I know that, but we But there's let me put

775
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: it like this, I love Mark, but there's a lot

776
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: of people that could go four and eight here. You know,

777
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys who could go four and eight.

778
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: We've had a lot of them, so appreciate the call.

779
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 9: Now.

780
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't think there's many guys who could go ten

781
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: and three. There's a lot of dudes who can go

782
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: four and eight. So let's get back to where we're

783
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: competing for those ten and threes. But the four and eight,

784
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that that's the time to

785
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: talk about all that we've done. It's sort of like

786
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: remember when we were talking about cal I would say

787
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: any one who argues twenty ten to twenty twenty cow

788
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: was not good is a gooper. He was amazing. But

789
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: the question is going forward. Anybody who argues that the

790
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: run Stoops had from really year three to about year

791
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: ten wasn't great, I think they don't understand Kentucky football.

792
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: But the question is what's next year gonna be? Like

793
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, Kodak was once a great company. The question

794
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: is what do you do now? That's the question for

795
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: me going forward? Who's next?

796
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 16: Jerry, Jerry?

797
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Jerry?

798
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 12: All right, thanks taking my call.

799
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: Man.

800
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 12: I'm gonna make you a short tweet. I'm gonna say

801
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 12: something is probably gonna piss a lot of people off

802
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 12: of Big Blue Nations. I would never be so glad

803
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 12: to see dem Walker and buying Brown to get out

804
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 12: of our program. And they absolutely quit on this team.

805
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 12: Walker has went from a first round he'll be lucky

806
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 12: to get in the second round. And another thing is

807
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 12: our offensive coordinator, Stoops cannot bring him back.

808
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 18: Man.

809
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 19: I mean, at the end of the day, why do

810
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 19: you do you blame you do you blame the offensive

811
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 19: coordinator for how bad the offensive line is.

812
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't recruit the players. By the time

813
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: he got here, they were already selected. Like, do you

814
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: blame him for it? No, I don't.

815
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 12: I don't blame him. I'm not a big fan of

816
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 12: the offense, flying coach that they got them that came

817
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 12: here from Malabama. But what I'm saying is, I was

818
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 12: set to South Carolina the game early the season, and

819
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 12: I set there and I watched Get You a Lot

820
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 12: Easy to watch it live and it is on TV.

821
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 12: And I sat there and watched Baring Brown and Dion

822
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 12: Walker not just see him just take play at your

823
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 12: play at the playoffs and Brown all he wants to

824
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 12: do Matt is running cry and complain that he's not

825
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 12: getting the ball. Well, first of all, brother, you need

826
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 12: to try to work a little bit harder getting open

827
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 12: your world class paid But all you want to do

828
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 12: is just stop and start pointing fingers. And he did

829
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 12: it today twice, two different times.

830
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I mean, well, you don't have to be

831
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: one of those guys. Either. One of those guys gonna

832
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: be here. Yeah, neither one of those guys gonna be

833
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: here next year. I mean you're right. I mean Dion, I'm.

834
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 12: Part to You're probably right, but I'm just saying that

835
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 12: just I'm just like you. I cannot stay in the

836
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 12: thought of us getting smacked down and gets loublle like

837
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 12: we did today, and at the end of the day,

838
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 12: we just didn't. I just don't think the anper was

839
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 12: think when the kids ripped out of his hands, I

840
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 12: think that took right out of everything.

841
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. I appreciate the call. I

842
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: think that was a huge play. He just got the

843
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: ball taken from him, just just literally taken out of

844
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 1: his hands. You know, Barry and Brown and Dion Walker

845
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: both uber talented guys. Both of them, without question, did

846
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: not work hard this year. And Dion is a physical

847
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: force the likes of which we may never see here again.

848
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean we we may never have anyone built like

849
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: him again at this school. But he he he did.

850
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: He didn't work card this year. He just didn't. Then

851
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: he took plays off, and he's so good that he

852
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: could take plays off and still be effective. But like

853
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: the dominance that he had some last year, it didn't

854
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: happen because of those When he decided to he could

855
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: still be dominant. But he didn't do it consistently, and

856
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 1: then Barrion. You know, I talked about this with Linn Bowden.

857
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 1: You know, Lin Bowden, he took a lot of shortcuts

858
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: off the field, but when he got on the field,

859
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: his teammates knew that dude's gonna give us everything we have.

860
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: And it gave him a lot of leeway with the coaches.

861
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: But it also gave him a lot of leeway with

862
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: his teammates. I don't think they like some of the

863
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: stuff Lynn would do, but they'd be like, well, when

864
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: we lace them up, Lyn's gonna be there. I think

865
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: Barryon's done some of that stuff, but without the on

866
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: the field lacing them up and gonna be there. And

867
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: that's a recipe for negativity. And Dion Deon came into

868
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: the season as a potential top five pick and now

869
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: he's not in the first round and that's on him,

870
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: like he has to deal with that. That that was him,

871
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: that's not he made that decision. And you know, he'll

872
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: still make the league. He'll probably be he might still

873
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: be a first round pick, but he could have been

874
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: a top five pick. And that was him that didn't

875
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: make that happen. Who's next? Don don what's up?

876
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 6: Hey man?

877
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: Doing good?

878
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 10: Ay?

879
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 14: First time?

880
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 20: Long time?

881
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: Who are.

882
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 15: I just want to take you back in time.

883
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 20: You got Benny and c Rod and Cash and those guys.

884
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 20: From a culture standpoint, I mean Steups was just on

885
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 20: top of the world. I mean, it was a lunch pale,

886
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 20: it was bringing lunch to work. It was a hard

887
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 20: hat type mentality. I just want to know just how

888
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 20: that's going to change, you know, moving forward. I just

889
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 20: don't know if you're gonna you're you're getting a clean

890
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 20: house from a roster standpoint, and I just want to know.

891
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a great ques. I mean, that's

892
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: a question he has to answer, right, Like he has

893
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: to answer that. I mean part of it who you

894
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: bring in, right, you know, I think they brought in

895
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: a couple of dude. I think they brought in some

896
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: people from the portal that just didn't have the work

897
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: ethic and and I think that hurt. And then you know,

898
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: they haven't developed some of the guys, especially when it

899
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: comes to the offensive line. No, you're right, I'd like

900
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: to hear him answer that question, but I'd like to

901
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: hear him directly address the culture kind.

902
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 20: Of I would I would like col situation where you're

903
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 20: kind of hell hostage and you know you've got summer

904
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 20: all out there, and I get it, you know some

905
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 20: are all might have bigger and better things plan, but

906
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 20: it's if you miss this window of opportunity.

907
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, if they WHOA, that's up to Mark,

908
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: right like like that's up to Mark, Like Mark's the

909
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: only one who can change any of this. This is

910
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: all up to him, Like he's the ultimately gonna be

911
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: the one. I think, and I appreciate the call. I

912
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: think the first thing you have to do, and he says,

913
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: he said, we're gonna go through the roster and see

914
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: who who we have and who we don't. They got

915
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: to get some of that out of there. But I

916
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: don't think that fixes everything. Okay, if you I don't

917
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: think these dudes we have are all bad guys. Maybe

918
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: a couple of them were, but most of them probably weren't.

919
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: A lot of it's the culture that you sat with

920
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: the coaching staff and with the you know, I just

921
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: saw Stanford's bringing in Andrew Luck as the GM of

922
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: their football program. I don't know if Andrew Luck will

923
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: be good at that or not, but I do know

924
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: that anybody you here talk about Andrew Luck says he's

925
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: one of the smartest guys they've ever met, said he

926
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: worked harder than anybody they've ever seen. Okay, that's a

927
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: dude I'd kind of like to have in a G position,

928
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: a really smart guy of a name value who works

929
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: really hard. I'm not even sure who our GM is.

930
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: Do we have a GM? I don't know. I think

931
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: in football you gotta have one at this point. I mean,

932
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: you gotta have one. You might even need one at basketball,

933
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: but you gotta have one in football. There's three hundred

934
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: people you're looking at. So do we I mean, do

935
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: we have someone like that? Are they looking at culture

936
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: when they pick guys? I don't know, you know, I

937
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that. So Mark's got to

938
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: answer those questions. I'm not around enough to know who's next. Jimmy, Jimmy,

939
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: what's up, Jimmy?

940
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 18: Hey, guys. I guess the biggest thing that stood out

941
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 18: to me today is I went to Austin last weekend

942
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 18: and I watched UK be pretty competitive with one of

943
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 18: the top teams in the nation. And today it's night

944
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 18: and day like I just that and you know everything

945
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 18: with the end of the season, It's just I don't know,

946
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 18: like like I just heard the quote from Stoops that

947
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 18: you guys played a little bit of go. I'm just

948
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 18: you know, my thing is just show me like, like

949
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 18: the offense has been abysmal, but I.

950
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: Wasn't surprised, just by the way. I don't know if

951
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 1: you heard the pregame show. I mean, I picked against

952
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: Kentucky for the first time against Louisville in fifteen years.

953
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: I pick them even when I don't think it just

954
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: because I don't want to pick them. I thought I

955
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: thought we were gonna get crushed, and we did if

956
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: I said by three. But if I was being honest,

957
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna get crushed. I saw this

958
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: coming in my way. I I you just talking to

959
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: people this week, right, so this coming.

960
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 13: Right?

961
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 18: And and and another thing I'd like to add. You know,

962
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 18: I really hope Cutter is the is the answer. It's just,

963
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 18: you know, can we talk about Mark Stoops and developing

964
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 18: quarterbacks and the lack thereof, like I hate hate to

965
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 18: be the guy.

966
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: We haven't We haven't. We haven't developed a quarterback out

967
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: of high school yet, you know, I mean, we go

968
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: you go to Terry, you got you go, Steven Johnson,

969
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: Terry Wilson, Will Levis, uh, Devin Leary and now Brock.

970
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: We haven't developed a whole quarterback out of high school ever,

971
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: So I hope, I mean, I hope that's the truth, though,

972
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: isn't it? Like I mean, he's we haven't. We haven't

973
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: developed one yet. So I mean Cutter is hopefully the

974
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: the the exception. They got another good guy coming in

975
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: in Stone Saunders, so I mean they've got a chance.

976
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: But the reality is, the success we've had at quarterback

977
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: has all been guys transferring.

978
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 3: In and in.

979
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 18: In my last thing, I'll let you guys get the one.

980
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 18: Like I guess positive stat I can look for is

981
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 18: Macklin today? What a waste? Oh man, what a waste?

982
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 18: But uh, it's basketball season.

983
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: Fellas appreciates cal. I'm with you. I mean what you

984
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: watch Macklin today and you go, how did he not

985
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: get the ball?

986
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 8: More?

987
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think if they had it to do

988
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: over again, they'd probably sit there and say, you know what,

989
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: it should have been Dame and Macklin. That's probably what

990
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: they'd say. But Barryon has such talent that you almost

991
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: can't help but go. But man, I could make that work.

992
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: And I think if you look back and you go,

993
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: if we had done Machelin on the targets we used

994
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: with barryon all the time. Yeah, we maybe we wouldn't

995
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: have had the one or two super plays, but maybe

996
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: it would have been more consistent overall. Let's do one

997
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: more and we'll take the final break.

998
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 16: Who's next, George and Lincoln.

999
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: George, go ahead, George.

1000
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 13: Hey, Matt, first time, long time listeners.

1001
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: Who what's up?

1002
00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 21: George Hey, we would like to have some advice of

1003
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 21: how to respond from r U of l friends and

1004
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 21: all their trash talk.

1005
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be tough. You know. One of the

1006
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: things about when you're when you have friends and you

1007
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: trash talk with your friends is sometimes, George, you just

1008
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: gotta you just gotta eat it. Like sometimes you just

1009
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: gotta say you got us on that one, and then

1010
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: you save it up and you remember all the times

1011
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: that they that they make jokes. George, you keep it

1012
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: in the back of your mind and then when it

1013
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: comes time, you get them back. But you also have

1014
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: to acknowledge sometimes they get you and if you try

1015
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: to you know, if you try to win. Win. When

1016
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: you've lost, you just end up looking bad. So what

1017
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: I would say is, how old are you? George? Ten?

1018
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: You're ten years old? You're ten years old? Yeah, so

1019
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: so you should say since you all started going to

1020
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: school in football and basketball, you know the total amount

1021
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: of wins Louisville has since you've been in school.

1022
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: One one.

1023
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: So you add up all the ones we've won, and

1024
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: you say, you know what, I am nice, I'm George.

1025
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm giving to my fellow friends, and I wanted to

1026
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: give you one because I already have eleven and I'm

1027
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 1: gonna win the next eleven. So you say that, okay, George, Okay,

1028
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, all right, I appreciate the call, George.

1029
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: How about there you go? Wow?

1030
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 16: Matt parenting a little bit here on the post games.

1031
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: I think I couldn't be a parent. Everybody's oh, you

1032
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: can't be a parent. I could be a parent, you know,

1033
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: I mean.

1034
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 16: I just haven't yet until they start screaming.

1035
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, when they scream, then I would give them to somebody. Yeah.

1036
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: If I'm nine to twenty two eighty seven, we'll take

1037
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: a break come back. Final segment. It is the local

1038
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: Toy Dealers KSR postgame show Waterback. It is the local

1039
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: Toy Dealers KSR postgame show ef I'm nine to two

1040
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: eight h twenty two eighty seven final segment. The uh,

1041
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: the Louisville fans just keep They pull out another video

1042
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: I did Billy where I said Louisville wise, Louisville ranked

1043
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: ahead of us, they never beat us. Oh yeah, but

1044
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: I can't do that one this year because they did

1045
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: beat us. Yeah, I mean we lost. What are you

1046
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: gonna do? But uh uh? One person writes, Matt, you

1047
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: did say you thought we're gonna lose. Did you end

1048
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: up betting Louisville? I did? I did. I even altered

1049
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: in line the Louisville a little bit. I thought they

1050
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: were gonna kill us. I did. I just you know,

1051
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: I didn't like the vibes and got out of hand quick.

1052
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: It could have been worse like it, really, I mean

1053
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: it could have been worse like they could have been

1054
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: up thirty five nothing a half time and then but

1055
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: what's weird is we had a moment, right it was

1056
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: twenty to seven, we had the ball and then he

1057
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: just will Cox fumbled it again.

1058
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 22: Uh.

1059
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: And then I don't think they played him again after that.

1060
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: So two fumbles at all? Do it to you?

1061
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 3: All?

1062
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: Right?

1063
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 1: Who's up next? Zach Zach? What's up? Zach? Zach? Go ahead?

1064
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 5: Can you?

1065
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 9: He?

1066
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: Yes?

1067
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 5: He so.

1068
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 23: My biggest thing with this year and with Stukes what

1069
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 23: I'm worried about. I don't like his attitude, with the

1070
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 23: I'm coming back and the way he said it, kind

1071
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 23: of talking down to the sands.

1072
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 13: I feel like.

1073
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 5: And my biggest thing is he's stubborn. He's turned into.

1074
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 23: Cal Perry, and if he comes back, I'm worried that

1075
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 23: we'll miss out on John summerw He's gonna get a big,

1076
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 23: big coaching job somewhere else. And I keep hearing the well,

1077
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 23: he he's old. A down year, It's fine, this isn't

1078
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 23: a down year. This is the last three years have

1079
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 23: been trending downwards and this is just the worst out

1080
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 23: of the three. And I'm tired of it. I don't

1081
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 23: know what we gotta do get rid of him.

1082
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, what would you do? I mean, I guess

1083
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: ultimately that's the question. Let's say you are the A D.

1084
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: What would you do?

1085
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 5: I don't know, put up a bill board and Lexington

1086
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 5: and raise some money and get rid of him. I

1087
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 5: guess I don't know.

1088
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna work. I mean, I don't really.

1089
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean, there comes a point where it's like, I

1090
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: don't know that you have a choice but to make

1091
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: it work, you know what I mean, Like what other

1092
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: what other choice is there? Because he says he's coming

1093
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 1: back once. He says that, I don't know, I don't

1094
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: know what else you can do.

1095
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 5: Well, Cal said that too, and he sat with Mitch

1096
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 5: Barnhardt in a video, so I mean he did.

1097
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: But remember, but how did that? But think about how

1098
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: that went away? That went away because he decided to

1099
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: you know what, I mean, like he decided, Okay, I'm

1100
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: not gonna do it, So you know, I think that's

1101
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: just kind of how it is.

1102
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 23: Like I'm worried he's turning. I'm worried he's getting stuck

1103
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 23: in like Cowhich Grant Cal left, and I get that,

1104
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 23: but I'm worried he's getting like that and he's stubborn.

1105
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: I worried about that.

1106
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 5: And I think I worried abo.

1107
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 23: He's putting it all on his OC and I don't

1108
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 23: know if he's going to change. I mean, it's the

1109
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 23: same thing every year. We can't keep changing offensive coordinators.

1110
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 23: We can't keep doing that. I mean, at the at

1111
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 23: the end of the day, it falls on him.

1112
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 5: And this is a.

1113
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 23: Three year spiral down.

1114
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 5: And I used to be one hundred percent on board of.

1115
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 23: Stoops, but the last three years, I just it's hard

1116
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 23: to it's hard to back and I hate to say

1117
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 23: it because he has been the best coach we've ever had.

1118
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 23: I get that, I understand that, but at the same time,

1119
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 23: you can't go off the past and continue on.

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00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: Totally agree with that, especially when it's a different sport.

1121
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I appreciate the call. I mean that's like saying, so,

1122
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: let's say that you know tomorrow the radio industry completely

1123
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: changes and all of a sudden. To be a good

1124
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: radio host, you also have to know how to oh okay.

1125
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: You also also have to be a really good singer.

1126
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: I can't sit here and say, and you're sitting there

1127
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: going you're the head of iHeart, and you go, well,

1128
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: who do we want to helm this ten to noon

1129
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: radio show every day? Well, Matt's had fifteen good years.

1130
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: That's making when I go, we can't sing, and I go, well,

1131
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: first of all, yes I can, but then I would say,

1132
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: but I've had fifteen good years, and they go, yeah,

1133
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: but can you see because in the future you have

1134
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: to see. Well, for Mark, you may have had ten

1135
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: good years, but now you got to do this in

1136
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: ail thing, and now you gotta do this culture thing,

1137
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: and now you're gonna have a twenty million dollar you know,

1138
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: payments and all this stuff, like, now you gotta do

1139
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: something different. Can you do that? Because if you can't sing,

1140
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: and if you can't do that, then it doesn't really

1141
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: matter what you did before.

1142
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 17: In some ways, Yeah, but it's not singing in the

1143
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 17: new world. I think you hire a co host that

1144
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 17: can sing while you do the other things.

1145
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: Good, Fine, go hire a GM that is analytically based,

1146
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: that understands then that I'm fine with that. Go hire

1147
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: your Andrew Luck. Again. I don't know if Andrew Luck's

1148
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: gonna be successful, but go hire someone like that. That

1149
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: would make me some confidence. You know. That's why maybe

1150
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: he'll do some stuff during this offseason that makes you excited.

1151
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: But you know what I worry about. Here's what I

1152
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: really worry You want to know what I really worry about, Billy,

1153
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: For just being honest, we got a handful of coaches

1154
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: that I think need to be replaced that I think

1155
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: Stoopis is gonna be histant to replace because he's their buddy.

1156
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: We got a couple of coaches that I think are

1157
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: our strongest parts of the program that I'm worried will lose.

1158
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: So if we don't replace the ones that I think

1159
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: need to be replaced, and we lose the ones that

1160
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: I think are good, then it's hard for me to

1161
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: be excited. That's kind of my work. What's next?

1162
01:01:58,640 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 16: Aaron is next?

1163
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: And go ahead? Aaron? Aaron?

1164
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 13: Sorry, Barren?

1165
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 15: Was it Barren?

1166
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1167
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: If you're on the phone, then it's okay.

1168
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 13: Thanks Matt, Sorry, first time, long time?

1169
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: Who are so?

1170
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 22: I Uh?

1171
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 13: I love Mark Stoops. I love everything it's done.

1172
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 22: But I think.

1173
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 13: Just the way it's gone and the way it's gone

1174
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 13: with Mark Pope is you get this young person who's energized.

1175
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 13: They get the people excited. Think of next year, we

1176
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 13: go six and six. If we're lucky with Mark steps,

1177
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 13: who's gonna be happy about that? But if you bring

1178
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 13: in a John Summer all rebuild it all, we go

1179
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 13: six and six, everyone's happy And just like you said

1180
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 13: just in that last before you put me on is

1181
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 13: you bring in? You know, it's kind of like Cal

1182
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 13: what was a downfall of Cal keeping his friends?

1183
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: And no, I mean what you just said is what

1184
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: you just said is completely valid. Okay, so what let

1185
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: me give you what Here's how valid what you just

1186
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: said is. Let me ask you a question. If Mark

1187
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: Pope this year were to go twenty five or let's

1188
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: say twenty four and seven, all right, be a three

1189
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: seed in the tournament, and we get to the second

1190
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: round and we get upset in to a six seed.

1191
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: None of us are going to like it. But are

1192
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: we still gonna be excited about the future? Yes, wouldn't

1193
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: you agree? But what if John Caliperry?

1194
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 9: But what if?

1195
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 20: John?

1196
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 1: But what if John Kyle Perry? Let me finish my question.

1197
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: Let me finish my point. What if John Caliperi went

1198
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: twenty four and seven, was a three seed and lost

1199
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: to the sixth seed? We go? Oh, here we go again? Right?

1200
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: So you're right, there's a freshness that happens with a

1201
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: new coach. The older coach the standard will by definition

1202
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: be harder. And I think that's a big point you raise,

1203
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: and I think it's valid, and you get buy in.

1204
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 13: You get everyone excited about the future. Things are different,

1205
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 13: and I love Mark Stewkes. He's the best coach we've

1206
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 13: had since Bear Bryant.

1207
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 22: He built this.

1208
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 13: I mean, look at what John cal Perry did for

1209
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 13: us coming off of Billy g. You know, he thank

1210
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 13: God for everything he did or we if we would

1211
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 13: have made the wrong hire when we hired cal we

1212
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 13: could have been Indiana.

1213
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: You're exactly right.

1214
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 13: But but but but we needed a change and it

1215
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 13: came in. You've got someone who's happy, who's refreshed, who's reaching.

1216
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 13: I mean John John Summer all played for Kentucky.

1217
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: Well, you gotta just stop. I mean, honestly, though, the

1218
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: John Summer things a waste of time. Okay, because Mark's

1219
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: not leaving. I get what you're saying, but like there's

1220
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: gonna be no argument you can make that's gonna make

1221
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 1: that happen, you know what I.

1222
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 13: Mean, Like we'll see no, no, no, no no. I

1223
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,919
Speaker 13: I completely agree. But what I wish I could say

1224
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 13: to Stoops is think of five years from now. If

1225
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 13: he left today, in five years from now, there'd be

1226
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 13: a statue of him.

1227
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 22: And he has.

1228
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: Totally agree. He's putting his whole legacy he's putting his

1229
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: whole legacy on the line, exactly's no doubt about that.

1230
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 13: Again, he's gonna be run off, he's gonna be disliked,

1231
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 13: and it's gonna be like, I'll let you go.

1232
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. You're exactly right. He is putting

1233
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: his whole legacy on the line. And if he if

1234
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: I was his close friend, uh, and he came to

1235
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: me and said, Matt, what should I do? I would

1236
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: have said, you know what, Mark, maybe this is the

1237
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: right time to step away. But he has made clear

1238
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: he's not gonna do that. And you're exactly right. He

1239
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: is putting his legacy uh at Kentucky on the line.

1240
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: He seems to believe in it, though, and I hope

1241
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: it works out. Uh, let's do four more. We'll call

1242
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: it a night. Who's next, Billy? All right? Johnny? Go ahead, Johnny? Yo,

1243
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: what's up?

1244
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 20: Matt?

1245
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 7: Uh just just kinda say, man, as a little of

1246
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 7: a fan, this was great. It was an absolute beat down.

1247
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 7: Y'all had this one coming.

1248
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 13: Uh.

1249
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 7: So you know, y'all can y'all can sit on this

1250
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 7: one for the next year because it was incredible.

1251
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 8: Uh.

1252
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 7: But all jokes aside Matt rivalry side. I do, I

1253
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 7: do enjoy listening to your insight on on things, but

1254
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 7: I just think Kentucky fans need to realize that that

1255
01:06:56,200 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 7: there's a lot more issues at hand than than just

1256
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 7: than just stoops. But you know, we needed this one.

1257
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 7: It was a lot of fun, you know, and we're

1258
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 7: gonna see y'all in two weeks.

1259
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 20: Go cards.

1260
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah that'll go different. Yeah, well listen, maybe might maybe

1261
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: that'll happen. I appreciate to call if you all. Uh,

1262
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: I think very un probably will end up in a

1263
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: program like Louisville. I'm not saying it will be Louisville.

1264
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll go there. He's thrown too many

1265
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: l's down for that, but I do think that that's

1266
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: probably where he ends ends up. No, Louisville did need

1267
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: this one. And look, a rivalry is not a rivalry

1268
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: unless you all occasionally win. So, uh, it had been

1269
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: a while I didn't know if y'all remembered even like

1270
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: how to win these games. So you did. The good

1271
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: thing is, though you're you're not gonna win the basketball

1272
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: game and uh may never win it ever again. So

1273
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: but never again, you all should enjoy you should enjoy

1274
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: this one. If I were you, I would I would

1275
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: completely enjoy it because you deserve it.

1276
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 11: There's up next, Brian, Brian, go ahead, Brian, Hey, Matt, longtime, first,

1277
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 11: long time listener, first call. I just want to make

1278
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 11: I just want to make a comment on a on

1279
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 11: a statement that was made a couple of segments ago

1280
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 11: about comparing uh Kentucky to the to Indiana and and

1281
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 11: how you know they're eleven and one this season and

1282
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 11: they were what five and seven past season, but you

1283
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,799
Speaker 11: got to take into account you know their their schedule

1284
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 11: is is relatively weak.

1285
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 22: This year, and then with it is.

1286
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 1: It is, but we didn't beat anybody we beat. We

1287
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: can't we can't say anything about I mean, when I

1288
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: go on ESPN and I talk about who it should

1289
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs, I will say Indiana schedules week

1290
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: and that will be very perfectly valid as a Kentucky fan.

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Speaker 1: We lost to Vandy at home. We can't complain about

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Speaker 1: anything of Indiana's schedule because we lost a Vandy at home.

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Speaker 1: We lost by twenty five or whatever it was, to Florida.

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Speaker 1: We got run off the field by Louisville, who lost

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Speaker 1: two weeks ago. To Stamford. We can't say anything about

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Speaker 1: Indiana's schedule as Kentucky fans, as when I put my

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Speaker 1: national commentator hat on, I can, but as a Kentucky

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Speaker 1: fan trying to justify where we are visa the Indiana

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Speaker 1: Indiana's schedule has If we played Indiana tomorrow, they beat

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Speaker 1: the crap out of us.

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Speaker 11: All right, Sair enough. I just think if Kentucky were

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Speaker 11: to pay, if Kentucky were to play Indiana schedule, I guarantee.

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Speaker 1: We wouldn't be eleven and one. We wouldn't be eleven

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Speaker 1: and one, not this year. I appreciate the call. There

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01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: might have been years where we would have, but it

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Speaker 1: ain't this one. Look, Louisville's what fourth fifth in the ACC.

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Speaker 1: They just destroyed us. They lost last week to a

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Speaker 1: team that finished three and nine. Two weeks ago, he

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Speaker 1: lost a team that finished three and nine and lost

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Speaker 1: yesterday to San Jose State at home. We can't say

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Speaker 1: anything to these other programs. Two more, Who's next, Brandon Brandon?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Brandon oh Man?

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Speaker 15: I love the show. I got an unpopular opinion and

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01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 15: a regular opinion. I guess I'm popularive. We have been,

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Speaker 15: We've been declining since Mike Stoops got here. Nobody's brought

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Speaker 15: that up. It probably has nothing to do with anything,

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Speaker 15: but he started the buddy hiring system and we've declined

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Speaker 15: ever since he got to the program. In my opinion, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, I think factually that's accurate. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's correlation or causation, but factually, Uh, you're right. What's

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Speaker 1: your other opinion?

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Speaker 15: I'm rid or die Mark Stoops. He got us to

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Speaker 15: where we are. I'm forty five years old, close to

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Speaker 15: your age. I know where we came from. He deserves

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Speaker 15: a mulligan. In my opinion, I'm right or die for Stoops.

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Speaker 15: If you don't do it next year, I'll change.

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Speaker 1: All right. Fair enough appreciate the call. I do think

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Speaker 1: there are more of those people than you would think

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Speaker 1: if you were online only that got callers like that.

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Speaker 1: What the percentage is, I'm not really sure, but I

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01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: will say this. We talk about COL. This reminds me

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Speaker 1: of where Kentucky was after col lost to Kansas State.

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Speaker 1: If you remember, after that year, it was still pretty divided,

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Speaker 1: but then after Oakland the consensus formed. If we have

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Speaker 1: a bad year next year, the consensus will be formed

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Speaker 1: and then you're really in a pickle. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: next year's schedule is hard. We play all the same

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Speaker 1: teams we played this year, so yikes. Just keep that

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01:11:54,760 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 1: in mind. Last one, who's there, Brad? Go ahead, Brady?

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Speaker 22: What's I disagree with you on the consensus? I think

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Speaker 22: the elephant in the room, uh, with the contract and

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Speaker 22: all that good stuff, is that there is a monetary

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Speaker 22: uh implication for him staying. And that's the thing that

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01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 22: nobody's talking about because there are people that are just

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Speaker 22: flat out done.

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Speaker 14: Uh.

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Speaker 22: So that's something that Uka is gonna have to consider.

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Speaker 22: Barnhart's gonna have to consider.

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Speaker 1: When you say done, though, I mean I assume you

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Speaker 1: mean like I assume you means like season ticket holders.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I think there's gonna be season ticket holders that

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01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 22: are not going to renew. There's gonna be people that

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01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 22: are not gonna quote unquote pony up, you know, and

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Speaker 22: iol wise and just across the board. So I mean

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Speaker 22: there's gonna be a monetary impact. Will that is I

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01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 22: don't I don't know there will.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt about that. I think

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Speaker 1: the question is the second part what it is. I

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01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: also would note, though, most still the revenue now that

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Speaker 1: Kentucky brings in comes from the television deal, But the

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Speaker 1: season tickets do matter a lot. And I think the second,

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Speaker 1: the last thing you mentioned, the nil thing, really matters

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Speaker 1: a lot. Next year after that you're gonna get into

1364
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: the revenue sharing thing, and I actually think it will

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Speaker 1: matter less. But next year, I think you're right, it

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Speaker 1: will matter a lot.

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Speaker 22: I mean, because when you have a guy, you know,

1368
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 22: right out of the shoot, I mean, the first opportunity

1369
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 22: that he has to speak, he basically just has one

1370
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 22: of the worst pr statements that you could make, basically

1371
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 22: telling the fans that he's going to hold the program hostage.

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Speaker 22: You know, I mean, that's just the worst thing he

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01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 22: could have said in that postgame interview. And you know, lastly,

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Speaker 22: before I jump off here, we Barnhardt has to stop

1375
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:55,560
Speaker 22: writing these contracts where he's leaving the university, no backstop

1376
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 22: when you know.

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Speaker 1: He won't do it again, like he's not gonna do

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01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: it again. I agree that he will not do that again.

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01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: You are, you are right. We've talked about like why

1380
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: he almost had to do it, but I will make it.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I don't know if Mitch will even

1382
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: be around to write the next renewal version of a

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Speaker 1: contract for any of these coaches, quite frankly, just because

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many more years he'll do it.

1385
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: But you're right, I think both the Cal situation and

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Speaker 1: this one, I'd be shocked if he ever did it again.

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Speaker 22: And I totally get like why they did it, But

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Speaker 22: I mean, from your standpoint as an attorney, like, would

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Speaker 22: would there be any reason from the other party's perspective,

1390
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Speaker 22: like why they wouldn't sign a deal, like a big

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01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 22: money deal, like if that portion wasn't.

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Speaker 1: There because they could get someone else to give it

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Speaker 1: to him, you know, like UCLA. UCLA was willing to

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01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: give Cal essentially the same deal, maybe not the lifetime ambassadorship,

1395
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 1: but they were willing to give him basically the same

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Speaker 1: deal and maybe even a little more money.

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Speaker 22: And then I know that what I'm saying is I'm

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Speaker 22: not not not leaving some kind of any kind of

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Speaker 22: leverage at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean answering the question because because the

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Speaker 1: because at the other place they believed that they could.

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Speaker 1: You're playing a game of chicken in some ways, right,

1403
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: You're sitting there saying their agent comes and says if

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01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: you don't give me this, then I'm going here and

1405
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: you're sitting there going or are they just saying that

1406
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 1: or do they meet it? And it's like a game

1407
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: of chicken. And if you don't give them that and

1408
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: then they go, people are gonna be like, well, why'd

1409
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: you let them go? And it's tough. Negotiations are tough.

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Speaker 1: I hate doing negotiations for that very reason. I don't

1411
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: like doing that. I end up I'm not good at

1412
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: it because I don't like playing that game. I think

1413
01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: in Col's case, his leverage was real. Stoops this case,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it was as real as as

1415
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: Barnhard and them thought, but they clearly thought it and

1416
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 1: that's how we got where we are.

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Speaker 22: So yeah, I mean, yeah, just the close of me

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01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 22: for me, I think that's something that, you know, the

1419
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 22: university needs to look at us. I mean, how much

1420
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 22: projected loss could it be that, you know with fan

1421
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 22: turn off?

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01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: I mean, you'll find out.

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Speaker 22: I don't I don't know what it'll look like, but

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01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 22: I'm pretty disgusted with the program right now.

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01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I appreciate the call. I mean, if it's

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01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 1: a big number, it'll matter. I think, you know, I

1427
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 1: think the Nile piece is the biggest thing. Eventually, I

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01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,759
Speaker 1: think most people will renew their season tickets, maybe not all,

1429
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: but the Nile piece. You know, you got to go

1430
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 1: get players in the next three four weeks. I think

1431
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to look at somebody and give

1432
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 1: them a say, give me fifty thousand dollars to go

1433
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 1: get this player right after you went four and eight.

1434
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 1: That's gonna be tough. Billy, Thank you very much. I

1435
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: wish you were going with us. We will miss you

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01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 1: this week.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, enjoy your trip, don't get all right.

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Speaker 1: This Cincinnati area. Tomorrow morning I'll be with Myron and

1439
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 1: with these guys at Jefferson's Social outside of the Bengals game.

1440
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: So if you're going to the Bengals game you're in the

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01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: Cincinnati area, come say hello. I'd love to meet you

1442
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: and say hi, and then we will take off and

1443
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: we will be in Iowa City on Monday morning for

1444
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: our show. Follow all of us on social media to

1445
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 1: see the trip. We'll have a full car. We got me, Drew, Ryan, Shannon,

1446
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 1: Mario and Max all going. So it'll be should be

1447
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Speaker 1: a great trip and we'll be on the road all

1448
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Speaker 1: of next week. Thank you all very much for listening

1449
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 1: all football season. Now we switch it to basketball. Two

1450
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: big games this week with Clemson and Gonzaga. This has

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Speaker 1: been the local Toyter Dealers KSR postgame show