1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Everyone talked about a morning routine and meditation, and I'm like, 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: if all of these really successful people that I admire 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: do this, there's got to be something to it. I 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: need to wake up and work out. I need to 5 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: wake up and do this. But those things didn't work 6 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: for me. So it was trying something for a week, 7 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: do I feel better? And I got it to a 8 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: routine of the things that feel best for me. Those 9 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: five things might not work for you. Hey, everyone, welcome 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: back to our Purpose, the number one health podcast in 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: the world. 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People have 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: built and created incredible cultural phenomenons and also at the 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: same time learned lessons along the way that they can 32 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: share with us. Now, I know that you're going to 33 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: be really excited for this one because I know a 34 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: ton of you already follow our next guest, and I'm 35 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: excited for you to learn about behind the scenes story 36 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: and the journey that she's taken to get there. I'm 37 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: speaking about the one and only Marianna Hewett, who's a 38 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: leading voice in social media and the co founder of 39 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: Summer Fridays, the skincare brand whose iconic jetlag mask became 40 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: an instant bestseller. Marianna is also the host of our 41 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: own podcast, Life with Marianna, the number one fashion and 42 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: beauty podcast. I got to be a guest, I think 43 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: right at the beginning near when the show launched, it's 44 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: been on an incredible trajectory. Amazing guest makes you check 45 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: it out. Marianna's a dear friend, so I'm loving this opportunity. 46 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I just said to our offline that when a friend 47 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: comes on the show, I think I know them a 48 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: little bit, and then we interview them, and then I 49 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: realized I know them a whole lot better. So I 50 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: hope you feel inspired to interview your friends as well. Marianna, 51 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Operas. No, it's so great to have you. 52 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: I've been looking forward to this, and I loved the 53 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: interview we did for your podcast two years ago. Now, yeah, 54 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: it was one of my favorite episodes and people loved 55 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: it so much, and so I'm so happy you're coming 56 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: back again. Yes, yes, I'm excited to come back again. 57 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: And you know, you've just been on this incredible journey 58 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: with your brands, your work, the community you spend time with, 59 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: your such a respected voice, such a well known face 60 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: in the industry, which I think is really hard to 61 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: do when you've done it from building a brand, when 62 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: you've done it from building social media, it's hard to 63 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: maintain that. But I want to go backwards today because 64 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: as we were researching, we also found that you don't 65 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: always share too much about yourself. And that's obviously what 66 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: on purpose is built upon. And I wanted to ask you, like, 67 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: and I asked this often, what's your earliest strong memory 68 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: as a child, Like, can you remember if you could 69 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: go back, what's one of your strongest earliest memories and 70 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: why is it so important to you? And I'll tell 71 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: you mine as I as I let you think on yours. 72 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: If I think about my earliest earliest memory, I can 73 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: probably remember holding my sister when she was born. So 74 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: I was around four and a half going on five, 75 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: and I remember her being in my arms and like 76 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: it was amazing to have that opportunity to actually hold 77 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: this baby. And I remember my parents had been like 78 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: preparing me for this moment where they were like, you've 79 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: got to pray for a new new little friend to 80 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: be in your life, and so like for weeks on 81 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: end and months I was praying, so I was prepped. 82 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: And then when my mom was going to hospital and everything, 83 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: I remember my dad like staying at home with me 84 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: and doing puzzles and like keeping me occupied and getting 85 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: me ready. And then finally, when I held my sister, 86 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: was like such a moment and the reason why. And 87 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: I think about how that moment impacted me, and I 88 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: feel my parents did a great job at me being excited, 89 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: and at the same time, I feel that's been a 90 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: big part of why I feel so close to my sister. 91 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: And I often called my sister kid because I see 92 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: her as my little child, and so there was a 93 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: parental aspect. I feel like I became quite fatherly early on. 94 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: So anyway, that's my earliest memory of four and a 95 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: half years old. I want to know yours. We have 96 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: a mutual friend, Audrey, and she was asking me the 97 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: other day, like, how far back do you remember? And 98 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, I remember my first day of kindergarten. She's 99 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: like you do, and I was like, yeah, I can 100 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: remember waiting in line, I can remember my backpack, I 101 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: remember going into school. And it really was memories from 102 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: six on where I remember a lot. At the time 103 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: my parents got divorced, I was six, so this is 104 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: very early nineties before a lot of family we're getting divorced, 105 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: and I had grown up in Germany, that's where I 106 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: was born, and after my parents divorced, my mom went 107 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: back to Germany, and this is very modern of my 108 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: parents at the time. But I ended up living with 109 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: my dad full time, so my dad was a full 110 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: time single parent. They were cross continental co parenting, which 111 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: is like it just seems very crazy like thinking back then. 112 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: But I think it's a lot to my independence now 113 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: because I started flying by myself to Germany to see 114 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: my mom when I was six. So my dad used 115 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: to take me to the airport. This is before TSA preach. 116 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 1: This is how long ago it was, or your people 117 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: could like walk you to the gate. So my dad 118 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: would walk me there and then someone would take me 119 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: on the plane. I would fly to Germany. I would 120 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: meet my mom there on the other end. And I'm 121 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: an only child and a youngest child, so I have 122 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: two older half sisters, but I was my parents only kids. 123 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: So from a really young age, I had this independence 124 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: of Okay, I could fly to Germany by myself, like 125 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: I can do everything by myself. And I think my 126 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: parents always treated me as an adult at a really 127 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: young age, and they instilled independence in me, and they 128 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: always treated me like I was an adult. So my 129 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: parents are much older now. My dad is eighty five. 130 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: My mom is seventy two, and so I think they 131 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: were out of phase in their life where they were 132 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more grown up. They had figured things 133 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: out themselves, and they said, this is the way I 134 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: want a parent. I'm not going to smother you. I'm 135 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: going to let you be your own person and figure 136 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: things out. And I think that independence has really gotten 137 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: me to where I am today. And so when people 138 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: are like, how do you travel all the time for work, 139 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,559 Speaker 1: I've like, Oh, I've been traveling since I was a baby, 140 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: so it's something I'm so used to. I love that 141 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: I did not know that, and I think it's really interesting. 142 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: I don't live in my past that much, and you 143 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: don't strike me as someone who lives in your past 144 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: a lot, but I do love going backwards to kind 145 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: of connect the dots with those experiences. And what you 146 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: just said is a perfect example of how you took that. 147 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: Have you found sometimes that you speak to people, but 148 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: we all react to things differently, Like for someone else 149 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: that going back and forth would have made travel really 150 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: scary and they would have been like, God, my parents 151 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: got divorced, like it was the worst and I had 152 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: to go back and forth where your story is I'm 153 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: independent and I travel. Do you think you had to 154 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: reflect or did you do any work to get there 155 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: or was that just natural for you? Where it was like, 156 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: I just felt like it was a good thing, because 157 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm always intrigued as to life happening to us versus 158 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: us choosing what life does to us. Yeah, I think 159 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: there's two scenarios here. So I have a friend who 160 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: is really bad flight anxiety, Like she cannot get on 161 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: a plane without taking something first, and we talked about 162 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: it recently and she's like, I think because my parents 163 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: were divorced, and I thought every time I got on 164 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: a plane, I was leaving one parent and going to 165 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: another one. And so she has a really bad time 166 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: flying now thirty years later because of those experiences. Again, 167 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: my parents being modern at the time, which is more 168 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: common now, my parents actually got me a therapist when 169 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: they were going through divorce. And this is thirty years ago, 170 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: so you have to think I was six years old 171 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: and my parents said, Okay, we're going to separate, We're 172 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: going to give you someone to talk to. And so 173 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: at the time I could actually process my emotions, not 174 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: really remembering what was happening, but they were so cautious 175 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: about how to handle the situation that I think it 176 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: made me feel like, oh, it's not a bad thing 177 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: that they're separated. They're doing these things because they love 178 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: me and they want to be happy people independently. And 179 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: so the way they handled it then reflected on who 180 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: I am as an adult today. So I think as 181 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: I think about one day becoming a parent, all those 182 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: things from someone being six really does reflect on who 183 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: they are as an adult. That's incredible. Yeah, so your 184 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: parents are supermature. Yeah, but you to think then people 185 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: weren't getting divorced, people were not going to therapy, parents 186 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: weren't co parenting. There's not even really cell phones at 187 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: this time, so they were trying to co parent in 188 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: different continents without Wi Fi, without cell phones. And the 189 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: fact that they were able to do it, it's like 190 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: if you live in the same city with someone else, 191 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: it's definitely possible. If they could do it between countries. Wow, 192 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: And do you feel that because of the way they 193 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: handled it, you've continued to have a good relationship with 194 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: both of them. Yeah, because of how they how did 195 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: they What were some of the others, Because I think 196 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: there are so many people today who have parents who 197 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: got divorced, or a lot of people who actually have 198 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: parents who never got divorced, but they feel that could 199 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: have benefited them. And then of course their parents who 200 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: stayed together, and people are grateful for that. But from 201 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: your experience, what else. I'm just so intrigued by how 202 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: incredible your parents are, Like, what else do you think 203 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: they got right that, despite being in separate countries, you 204 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: felt like you had a healthy relationship with both For them, 205 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: they always made sure like no matter what this was 206 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: the schedule. I spent my summers with my mom in Europe. 207 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: I would go see her during holiday, she would come 208 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: back to see me, and so my mom was always 209 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: planning work trips about coming back to where I was, 210 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: and so she would make sure she was present at school. 211 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: Even though she didn't live in the same state as me, 212 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: she would come to different things, and so that time 213 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: is really important, and I remember more the days that 214 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: she was there than she wasn't there. And so now 215 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm so close to both of them, and they're really 216 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: like friends to me. Now at this point, it's not 217 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: really like a parental relationship of anything. I probably parent 218 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: them a little bit too. Much, but they're just so incredible, 219 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: And I think hindsight is that they're older and I 220 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: have the gift of age from them. And I think 221 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: because they were fully mature adults by the time they 222 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: got married and had kids, they realized how to be 223 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: a parent more. I think a lot of times, when 224 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: you're still trying to figure yourself out in your twenties 225 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: and thirties, it might be a little bit too early. 226 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: But I think my mom waited till she was thirty 227 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: six to have me. My dad was forty nine, and 228 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: I think they were in a place where they were 229 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: fully ready to become parents, and I think that really 230 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: reflected on the way they raised me versus feeling like 231 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: I have to do this because of my age, which 232 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: I think a lot of women feel that way now, 233 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: like oh, I'm thirty, I have to do this thing now, 234 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: But they don't feel ready because society keeps telling us 235 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: we have to have kids by a certain age. But 236 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: I think they waited and that waiting made them better 237 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: parents to me. Yeah. Wow, So not only were your 238 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: parents over totherapy, yeah, your dad being the primary cat taker, 239 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: and then your parents were actually having kids late, which 240 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: was so not normal. Then yes, So it sounds like 241 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: they were breaking all the rules. They were doing all 242 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: the things that I want to do now in life, 243 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: but a long time ago before it was like normalized. Yeah, 244 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: tell me one of the ways that you feel your 245 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: parent your parents now that they're all older, and of course, 246 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: you know what's been one of the most beautiful ways 247 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: that you've got to Oh, I turn that I do 248 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: every I do so much for them now, but it's 249 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: like such a blessing to be able to do that 250 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: for them. And so my parents are so grateful for 251 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: anything if I buy them a flight or book something 252 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: for them. But now it's like travel, I want to 253 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: make sure that they're like very comfortable. So it's just 254 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: making sure that they have everything that they need. So 255 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: I have a half sister who's older. She lives in Connecticut, 256 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: so my dad wanted to see them for Thanksgiving. So 257 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: it's just he's like, oh, thank you so much for 258 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: this flight, Like he has so much gratitude for a 259 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: flight that I could book for him. And it's like, 260 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: if I can work hard to make sure that you 261 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: can go see your great grandkids, it makes me so happy. 262 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: Or my mom to be able to go on a 263 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: trip and do the things that she wants to do. 264 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: So now they're probably annoyed with me because I'm like, 265 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: don't do this, don't do this, don't go here, remember this, 266 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: like wear your face mask. Like I'm telling them all 267 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: of these things, but I try to do it a 268 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: little bit less. But they're like my dad even texts 269 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: me that they're thinking, okay, thanks Mom, Like, so they're cute. 270 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: I love that. That's so adorable. It's so beautiful. I 271 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: think for all of us who can support our parents 272 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: in any way, it is such a blessing. One of 273 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: the things that you brought up that they really stuck 274 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: with me was this idea that you want to live 275 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: your life in the way your parents were living their 276 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: life back then. Do you feel like you didn't grow 277 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: up with a lot of limitations in your mindset or boundaries, 278 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: because I think what you were saying is that a 279 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: lot of For example, you gave the example that a 280 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: lot of women feel like, oh, by the time I'm thirty, 281 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: I should have had kids by now. Well by the 282 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: time on this, and I think time and society place 283 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: a lot of these boundaries and barriers. Did you feel 284 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: more free from them because of how you were parented 285 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: or did at any point in your life did these 286 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: become a part of your yeah, education as well. There's 287 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: a couple of things. So one, my dad grew up 288 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 1: really poor. He was born at the end of the 289 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: Great Depression and grew up my grandpa was a preacher. 290 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: They had no money, like, very very poor. My dad 291 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: only could go to college because he joined the Air 292 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: Force and was able to go on a GI bill. 293 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: My mom immigrated to the US during the Vietnam War 294 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: and came to the America with literally nothing. So between 295 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: the two of their stories, I thought, if they come 296 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: from nothing, they come from war, they come from the 297 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: Great Depression, and they could make this life for themselves. 298 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: I can do anything possible because they've given me this 299 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: great life that I could have, that anything is possible here. 300 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: So if I don't live my life to the fullest, 301 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: it's almost a disservice to the sacrifices that they made 302 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: for me to be here. My mom is also Vietnamese, 303 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: so I grew up with a very much a tiger 304 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: mom who was like, you have to do these things. 305 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: Go to school, you need to graduate, you need to 306 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: get a job. But She also taught to meet independence 307 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: and what she told me was never rely on anyone 308 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: else for anything. You need to be able to fully 309 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: support yourself. So if you're in a relationship or a situation, 310 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: you can walk away and not feel like you have 311 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: to rely on another person for something, or be in 312 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: a scenario you don't want to be in because you 313 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: need this person for this thing. And maybe I took 314 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: it a little far overly independent in my life. And 315 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: so growing up, I told my parents I want to 316 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: be a television host. And then my mom was like, Okay, 317 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 1: you need a realistic job, like being on TV is 318 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: not realistic. So I said, Okay, my backup job is 319 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: going to be PR. So I went to school for journalism. 320 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: My backup was PR. I interned in PR in college. 321 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: It was my first job out of college. I was 322 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: taking celebrities to interviews and I was like, I still 323 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: want to be the one interviewing them, like this is 324 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to be behind the camera. I want 325 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: to be in front of the camera. And so I 326 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: started working as a TV host and then Instagram and 327 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: YouTube came around in twenty twelve, and I had a 328 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: reel and to send my real places. I needed to 329 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: upload it somewhere, so I uploaded it to YouTube and 330 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: I had to send the link to places to go 331 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: on interviews, and so I would send them this link. 332 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: That was my first YouTube video, and then I had 333 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: a channel. So I was like, I may as well 334 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: start uploading makeup tutorials because I have this place. This 335 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: is very early YouTube days ten years ago. And after 336 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: two years I was able to do it full time. 337 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: And I told my parents I'm going to quit to 338 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: do the internet. And they were like, quit to do 339 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: the internet? Like what is this? And so even though 340 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: they support me now, I don't think they gave me. 341 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: They let me know that all things were possible because 342 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: of their own stories, but I didn't know at the 343 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: time that I could make it a career for myself, 344 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: and they were definitely a little bit skeptical. Now they're 345 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: like the most supportive people. But at the beginning, you know, 346 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: it's like internet full time, what is this? Parents always 347 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: want us to be safe, like parents always want their 348 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: kids to be safe, but it's almost like the safest 349 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: thing parents can do is let kids take their own risks. 350 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: I feel the same with my parents, Like my mom 351 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: moved to England when she was sixteen, and they built 352 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: their life. Her brothers were like eighteen and nineteen, and 353 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: they built a life, Whereas when I was moving to 354 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: New York at twenty eight, it was like no, no, no, like, 355 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: are you okay, my baby? I'm like, mom, I'm twenty 356 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: eight years old. You were sixteen. But they forget that. 357 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: They forget the pain and the sacrifice and the risk 358 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: they took on, and they want to shelter you away 359 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: from it. When you made that decision, were you so 360 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: convinced that this is right for me, I know it's 361 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: the thing, or was it hard? Because I feel like 362 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: when you did that step, it wasn't a thing to 363 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: be a YouTuber yet, it wasn't a career path that 364 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: someone could say, I want to be a creator, mom 365 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: and dad, look at what x y Z are doing. 366 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: There weren't any role models at that time, and so 367 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: when you did that, it was even a bigger risk 368 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: than it is today. But I find so many people 369 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: who listen to this show today struggle to break out 370 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: of what their parents think of them. So when your parents, 371 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: it sounds like you have such a close relationship with 372 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: your parents, they love you, You love them. Was there 373 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: a part of you that felt you were letting them 374 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: down by doing this or did ye never letting them down? 375 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: I was never worried about letting them down. I think 376 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: I just had to prove them. So Like my dad 377 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: is very much like, Okay, go do whatever you want, 378 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: like this is great. Like he grew up in a 379 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: time there's not even phone, so like to have a 380 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: job on the internet seems so insane to him. But 381 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: my mom is very much like, show me what you 382 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: can do and then I'll support you. And so I 383 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: had to show her these opportunities. And I think when 384 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: I went on my first brand trip and I could 385 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: bring her on the trip, she was like, oh, you 386 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: could travel for work, you could go places. I went 387 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: to Thailand and I took her with me, and she 388 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: couldn't believe that you could have this job on the 389 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: internet and create this for yourself. And so I was 390 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: never worried about disappointing them because I always believed in myself, 391 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: if I want to do something, I know that it's possible. 392 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: And now we're in a really great place where you 393 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: can see people's careers that you want to emulate or 394 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: you look up too. But at that time there was 395 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: no one to We were figuring it all out at 396 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: the same time. And luckily it was very early days 397 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: of like influencers having like managers and teams, and I 398 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: happened to get an agency, and I think that helped 399 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: legitimize it to my family, and then they saw over 400 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: time like, Okay, you can actually like make money doing this, 401 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: and here we are a decade later. I love that. 402 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Congrats on having the strength at it. I 403 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: think that's underplayed, like how hard it is when something 404 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: is brand new to kind of bet on it because 405 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: you didn't have the you didn't have the benefit of 406 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: hindsight of how successful this thing was going to be 407 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: or how big it was going to be, no idea. 408 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: At the beginning, people were paypaling me fifty dollars to 409 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: pose something like that's how early it was, and I 410 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: was like, you would pay me fifty dollars to post something, 411 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: let's go. I was so excited. Yeah, that's incredible. And 412 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: when you started doing makeup tutorials and everything was that somehow. 413 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: And what I love about that story is you set 414 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: out to be a TV anchor, right like that, that's 415 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: what you wanted to be. Then you go into pr 416 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: realized that being behind camera doesn't work. Then you do makeup. 417 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: Was doing makeup tutorials fulfilling somewhat of a passion of 418 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 1: being in front of camera like that. Obviously wasn't being 419 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: a news anchor, but there was something about it I 420 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: was feeling, right, Yeah. I always had a passion for 421 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: sharing things that I loved with an audience, and so 422 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: at the time, I thought being a TV host was 423 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: the only way to do this, because I had to 424 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: be on a show to talk about things that I 425 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: love to share it with people. When YouTube came around 426 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you can upload videos and talk about 427 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: whatever you want and people can watch it. It was 428 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: always the things I felt I wanted to do in 429 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: my heart when I grew up, but when I grew up, 430 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: there was no platform to do that. And then at 431 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: the time when I was auditioning, I was going to 432 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: a lot of shows to be a host, and every 433 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: time I would get towards the end and they would 434 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: be like, we're going to give this job to this celebrity, 435 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: Like this celebrity host is going to do the job, 436 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, how am I ever supposed to 437 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: be known. If I don't get the opportunity. With the Internet, 438 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: We're in such an amazing place where we can take 439 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: our careers into our own hands. There's no one to 440 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: tell us no. You can create the content and if 441 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: the audience is there and people want it, they will 442 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: show up, they will watch, they will download, they will follow, 443 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: they will listen. And so it was everything I wanted 444 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: in this new platform, and it finally gave me a 445 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: place where I wasn't getting told no in an audition, 446 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: that someone didn't have to say yes to me, and 447 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: I could prove and show that I had this audience online. 448 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: And so I love it so much and it was 449 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: everything I wanted to do. When I grew up, I 450 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: just didn't know that's what it was. And I always 451 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: had a love for beauty and my dad used to 452 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: take me to beauty counters. So growing up with my dad, 453 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: he didn't know how to do my hair on my makeup. 454 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: So he would take me to department stores and he 455 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: would take me to an essay ladder counter and say, Okay, 456 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: here's my daughter, like, can you show her how to 457 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: use hair and makeup? Can you show her what products 458 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: to buy? Because he had no idea what a great 459 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: and so that really was my love of beauty from 460 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: a really young age. And so I started learning about 461 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: beauty from the experts, these people at counters who were 462 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: telling me about products, and that was in middle school 463 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: and high school. And then I took that love into 464 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: creating tutorials for myself and then starting your own brand. 465 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: That's such a great story, and I'm so glad we're 466 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: doing this, like background journey, because I feel like I 467 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: think about this all the time. I went to public 468 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: speaking school from eleven to seventeens, public being drama school 469 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: age eleven to eight, age eighteen, sorry for seven years, 470 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: and I think about it all the time that before 471 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: I'd even launched my online career, I probably had around 472 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: like twenty years of public speaking experience before I ever 473 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: did this professionally or got paid to do it. And 474 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: I think that when I hear your story of like 475 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: as a little girl, like going to a beauty counter 476 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: learning about not just how to put on makeup, but 477 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: which brands were doing well and why, and then skin 478 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: tone and color and then maybe looking for gaps in 479 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: the market, like you get such a real grassroots experience 480 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: that no one else can get just by looking at 481 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: what we have today. I feel like I feel like 482 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: grassroots learning. There's nothing better than Do you feel like 483 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: there were things then that you were like one day late? Yeah, 484 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: I think at the time. I remember learning how to 485 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: contour in high school before it became trendy like years later, 486 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: And I remember I was at a Mac counter and 487 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: they were like, this is what like drag queens use 488 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: on stage. This is where they use in stage makeup. 489 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: This is called contouring. You use this brush, you use 490 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: this powder, You put it right here so when you're 491 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: on stage, your face really stands out. And I can 492 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: remember this person telling me at a macstore how to 493 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: do this step and it's something I still do in 494 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: my makeup every day today. And here we are, like 495 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: fifteen years later from when they taught me this, and 496 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: so I loved learning from them, and so it was 497 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: so great, but you don't know it at the time. 498 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: And I think in life, every job and every experience, 499 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: whether you end up doing that job long term or not, 500 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: you really do learn something from each of those things 501 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: that pile onto the next job. In high school, I 502 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: used to work at restaurants. I used to be a 503 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: hostess at restaurants. And being a hostess, maybe you don't 504 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: think it's connected to the job I have now, but 505 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: I had to stand in front of a restaurant, I 506 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: had to talk to strangers. I stood on my feet 507 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: for a long time. I had to have conversations with 508 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: people who were angry waiting for their tables or wanted 509 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: something really quickly, or making conversation with them walking them 510 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: to their tables. And now I have no problem networking 511 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: or meeting new people or going up to people when 512 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: I see them at events or places because I had 513 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: these skills that I learned at a really young age 514 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: of how to talk to anyone in these scenarios. If 515 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: you feel like you're not living your passion right now, 516 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: or you're not living your purpose, or you know, we 517 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: talk about these words a lot, I really want you 518 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: to go back and look at every job you've ever 519 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: done and reflect on what you learned there, because I 520 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: promise you that skill is going to be so useful 521 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: for your passion and your purpose when it comes along. 522 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: I was saying to someone my first ever job was 523 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: I delivered newspapers. But then my second job was I 524 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: worked at Morrison's, which is our version of like Walmart, 525 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: or like a grocery store, but a big one. And 526 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: I remember just stacking shelves and everyone's like, well, what 527 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: did you learn? Then, I'm like, I learned how to 528 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: memorize what was in every aisle if anyone asked me 529 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: where anything was, and knew exactly which isislet was in. 530 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: I learned how to turn up to work on time 531 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: and leave on time. And I learned that over time 532 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: you got paid more. Like you'd learned so many basic things, 533 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: and what you just said, you learn how to work 534 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: with different people. I was fifteen years old, and I 535 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: learned how to have a boss and how to have 536 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: a good relationship with my boss, and all of these 537 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: techniques and skills that you would never learn in a textbook, 538 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: you never learn at school. Wondrium is an amazing educational 539 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: platform with documentaries, series, lessons, how tows and more covering 540 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: just about anything you and I can imagine. 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That's w O N 565 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: d r i UM dot com forward slash J onerem 566 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: dot com forward slash J. When you are going through 567 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: this journey, you take this decision to make YouTube videos, 568 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: to make content, did you ever get wrapped up in 569 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: like views, how beautiful am my makeup? Because I feel 570 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: like that can get so toxic for people, And I 571 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: think now what we're seeing so much of his creator burnout. 572 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: So there's one side that I want to talk to 573 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: you about, which is like likes, views, comments, engagement, Like 574 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: how do you deal with the pressure of that, Like 575 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: you upload something and it doesn't get views. And the 576 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: other side is when you actually get good at it 577 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: and now you're like knocking out videos, you're getting views, 578 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: everything's going well. But we meet so many creators today 579 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: who just say I'm tired of putting stuff out, Like 580 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm burnt out of having to upload every day to 581 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: three different platforms. I never worried too much about views, 582 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: and I know that that's a really hard thing to 583 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: say in a world where our job is valued on followers, views, likes, clicks, 584 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: and that really is how we're valued. But at the 585 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: time on YouTube, I started my very first videos with 586 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: products I used today in my skincare routine, and that's 587 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: ten years ago. Because I genuinely loved these products. I 588 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: was shopping at Sephorah. I love Prestige beauty. I was 589 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: a little bit older in the YouTube age. A lot 590 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: of the people were in either high school or they 591 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: were very young, and what they were sharing was not 592 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: genuinely the products that I loved, and so I could 593 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: have fall into this trap of I care about virality, 594 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: I care about what's trending, and I'm going to use 595 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: these products, but it wasn't genuine to who I was. 596 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: So I had a slower growth, and I said, I 597 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: love these brands and these products. I'm going to create 598 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: videos around this content, and I'm not going to be 599 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: the fastest growing. And that's okay because it's true to 600 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: who I am. And so if I thought about the 601 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: longevity of my career, it was more important to me 602 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: to create content that I genuinely liked and products that 603 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: I genuinely loved, versus chasing views because virality, maybe people 604 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: will click on it and watch it because they care 605 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: about this trending product or this theme, but they're not 606 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: getting to know you and it was more important for 607 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: me to people to like me for what I genuinely 608 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about, because I can't really create content 609 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: if I don't love it, and I just won't do it. 610 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: It's just not something that I like. And I think 611 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: that was a problem I had when TikTok first started, 612 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: was I didn't want to create content just for the 613 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: sake of virality, and so on YouTube, I grew a 614 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: little bit slower, but I started working with luxury beauty 615 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: brands and at the very beginning, they weren't really spending 616 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 1: money with people, but they saw like, there's only a 617 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: handful of girls on YouTube who are creating content around 618 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: Armani Beauty and Laura Mercia and these kind of brands, 619 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: and then I ended up getting to work with them 620 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: because there wasn't a lot of people sharing it. And 621 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: so I started working with Sephora at that time and 622 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: creating videos for their brand pages because they wanted an 623 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: organic type of video that wasn't a sponsored brand video. 624 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: And so it was a slower growth for me, but 625 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: I think it's helped me be where I am today, 626 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: because what you don't want to do is create content 627 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: that's just for the sake of being viral, and then 628 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: well what happens. Then I have a friend who she 629 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: used to be an editor and she left and she's 630 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: creating content full time now. And there's this trend of 631 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: people kind of taking like editorial, beauty news content and 632 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: regurgitating it into TikTok's. But then you're just retelling a 633 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 1: news story and there's nothing personal about it with you, 634 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: and sure people are going to watch it. It might 635 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 1: get millions of views, but you're not really building your 636 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: personal audience. And so now that we've created more things 637 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: for ourselves, I'm so happy that I always kind of 638 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: stay true to the kind of content I wanted to create, 639 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: because if not, then you're always going to be in 640 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: this hamster wheel of creating things for the views, and 641 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: you're never going to really feel satisfied by that. It 642 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: is frustrating when something doesn't perform well and you want 643 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: it to do well, and like it is our job, 644 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: and like you know, brands work with us because they 645 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: want a certain reach or number, and so that stuff 646 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: is important and that will come if you create the 647 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: content that your followers really want to see from you. 648 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: And then I think, you know, there's been phases of 649 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: burnout for me because being a creator, there's no job security, 650 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: there's no hour, there's no health benefits, we have no 651 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: teams a lot of times, and so it is the 652 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: scarce any mentality of every time a job comes in, 653 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: you want to say yes to it because you don't 654 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: know when the next thing is coming, and so you 655 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: want to do all the things that you can. But 656 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: I think in time I learned I have to take 657 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: a step back and not say yes to everything because 658 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: it's better for myself long term and the things will 659 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: come and it's but I know it's difficult, especially if 660 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: you're just starting out, because you are really based and 661 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: judged on a number. Yeah, I think that's so refreshing 662 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: to hear that from you, Like I hope that there's 663 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: so many people listening to this right now that are going, Mariana, 664 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: thank you so much for saying that, because I think 665 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: everyone feels that pressure. But you just explain something really 666 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: beautifully that you can have a lot of views, but 667 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: people are not necessarily watching it for you or understanding 668 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: who you are. And therefore every video you post can 669 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: get lots of views, but it's not like people are 670 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: really interested in your viewpoint or your perspective or your thoughts, 671 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: and I think we get those two things mixed up. 672 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: We think that virality and followers means influence, and actually 673 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean influence at all, because if people only 674 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: see you as entertainment, they're not going to suddenly listen 675 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: to your perspective on something you should buy or something 676 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: you should use your expert opinion. And so that's what 677 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm hearing from you, and I hope that gives people 678 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: a lot of confidence because I think it's very easy 679 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: to chase the views. I know there's someone I'm thinking 680 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: about right now who makes amazing content and it doesn't 681 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: get a lot of views, but it's built him a 682 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: really good business and he's trying to get more views 683 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: and virality, and I'm like, no, Like this is building 684 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: real value because your content so awesome. You're actually attracting 685 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: real companies who want to work with you privately because 686 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,719 Speaker 1: of the value that they see. And that's what your 687 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: journey says too. When it gets to burnout and everything 688 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: you just mentioned about no benefits, no work hours, like 689 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: that's so I think burnout comes from doing too much 690 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: of what you feel is true to your core. It 691 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: doesn't come from doing too much. What is very aligned 692 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: with you. Would you agree with that or oh, yes 693 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: and no, because I think there is a balance of 694 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: having time off and so yes, we want to do 695 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: all of these things, and we want to work really 696 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: hard and create this life for ourselves. But I cannot 697 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: do those things I need to do if I don't 698 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 1: also take time to rest. And one weekend, I used 699 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: to always like work through the weekends. I'm like, Oh, 700 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't really bother me. If I answer emails on 701 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 1: the weekend, it's not a big deal. But then one 702 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: weekend I actually took that weekend off and didn't answer 703 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: my emails, and Monday I felt so much better and 704 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: more refreshed. And so now it's really important for me 705 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: to take those breaks. So I did go through periods 706 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: of burnout of over creating and going to too many things. 707 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: And in college I had a stomach alcer because I 708 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: took on too much, and I physically was burnt out 709 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: in my body because I was doing too much. And 710 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: so I know that I need those periods of rest. 711 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: But I know it's hard when you're freelance. I know 712 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: it's hard when you're a creator, and there's so many 713 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: jobs who are freelance who don't have you know, certain 714 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: hour set for themselves, so it is important for them to, 715 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, want to make an income, especially if you're 716 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: solely supporting yourself or a family, And so I know 717 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: those things are difficulty. You've talked about energy drains and 718 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: energy gives before. Walk us through that, because I think 719 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: everyone feels that, whether it's people, places, projects, we all 720 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: feel that certain people drain us, certain projects give us energy. 721 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: Walk us through your version of that. Yeah, my energy 722 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: drainers are saying yes to too many things. So saying 723 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: no to me is what gives me energy. And I 724 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: know that saying no might seem difficult at first, especially 725 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: when you have opportunities that come to you and you 726 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: want to say yes to everything. But saying yes to 727 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: things I absolutely want to do has been so helpful. 728 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: I am in a place now where I can say 729 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: no because I feel like I worked hard in my 730 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: twenties to get to where I am today that I 731 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: have the ability to say no to things. But those 732 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: nos also are important because it's gotten me to the 733 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: jobs I want to do, the brands I want to 734 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: work with. I think if you say yes to too 735 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: many things, you might dilute yourself doing too many things. 736 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: So saying yes to the things that are in alignment 737 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: with the content you want to create, the brands you 738 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: want to work with, the long term goals, so you 739 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: have for yourself personally and professionally. Other energy drainers that 740 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: I have are not doing my morning routine, in my 741 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: evening routine, So really setting myself up for the day 742 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: sets me up for success. I get up in the morning, 743 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: I usually meditate a gratitude journal, I do like a 744 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,479 Speaker 1: little stretch, I drink my water, and even like just 745 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: a few things in the morning set me up because 746 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: if I wake up and I just instantly start doing things, 747 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: there's no time for me, just like in myself, to 748 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: turn off, and then I'm kind of just thinking all 749 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: day long. Other energy drainers, sometimes it's work and people. 750 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: And I know that that one's a really difficult one 751 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: to have boundaries around because you maybe cannot control who 752 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: you have to be around with work or people that 753 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: you have to spend your time with. So it's creating 754 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: boundaries around those people and things to make you feel 755 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: your best. So maybe it's at work you don't sit 756 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: next to that person or you, you know, focus on 757 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: working on yourself when you're at work so you don't 758 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: have to be near them too much. Because I know 759 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: that we can't always like eliminate energy drainers in our life, 760 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: and if it's someone in our life personally, it's difficult. 761 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: But as I've gotten older, I realize, Okay, this person 762 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: and this friend is draining my energy. When I'm around them, 763 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: I don't feel great. I don't feel better after I 764 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: left them. I almost feel more drained just being around them. 765 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: And so I can love you from a distance. I 766 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: still love you, I still like you, but I don't 767 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: have to spend a lot of time with you, and 768 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: that's okay. I can support you from afar, but I 769 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: know that if I'm around you, I don't feel my best. 770 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: And I want more of those energy givers in my life, 771 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: like who do I hang out with? And I feel 772 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: better after I leave them? Like who makes me feel 773 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: happier and whole, motivated, energized. And I always love being 774 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: around you because whenever I see you, you make us 775 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: feel so great. You're such a great friend. Our friend 776 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: Audrey is another one of them. Yeah, you guys are 777 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: not giving to my mind. With Audrey, I like Audrey. 778 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: We love you Audrey, and she really is one of 779 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: those people where you want to be around people who 780 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: are good like that. You want people who make you 781 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: feel your best. And so as I've gotten older, it's 782 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: less about quantity of friends, it's quality of friends. And 783 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: I choose to spend time with the people in my 784 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: life who give me energy and make me feel my best. 785 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: Because if you've noticed that after you leave a friend 786 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: and maybe you're a little bit tired or drained, or 787 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: you're just like whoa when you left them, like, it's 788 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: okay to start like phasing out people and love them 789 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: from afar. Yeah, I couldn't agree more with that. I 790 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: saw this tweet that said my circle is shrunk in 791 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,919 Speaker 1: size but increased in value, And I think that that's 792 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: the mindset that you're sharing them. I think that's something 793 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: people struggle with. I think we feel guilty because we 794 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: feel like we're leaving friends behind, or we feel bad 795 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 1: because we feel people are going to think we're better 796 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: than them. Like when you move on from a group, 797 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: you're often worried about the perception that those group of 798 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: people are going to think or Jay or Mariana think 799 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: that they're better, and it's like, well, you're not leaving 800 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: because you think you're better. You're leaving because you want 801 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: to be better and you want to grow. How have 802 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 1: you kind of outgrown groups or do you feel you've 803 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: generally had a group that's grown with you, but or 804 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: have you had to let go of Yeah, friendships, relationships 805 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: and things. I have a core like five people who 806 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: have been with me for like over a decade, so 807 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: that these are constants in my life. Like Audrey, we 808 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: met in two thousand and six, so that's like sixteen 809 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: years ago, so we're friends for a very long time. 810 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 1: So it's like I had this core group of people 811 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: who are very core to who I am. They know 812 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: me in my personal life. This is who I want 813 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: to spend my time with. Like it's not about content 814 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: or online or anything. It's just like who do I 815 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: want to sit on my couch with, like scroll on 816 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: my phone or watch TV or just hang out with. 817 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: And those people are really important to me. I have 818 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: a lot of acquaintances and people that we know just 819 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: from work and being around people, and I just know, 820 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: like I don't have to be overly close with a 821 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: lot of people, and that's okay. And I think a 822 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: lesson that I learned now in my thirties was that 823 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: a smaller circle is fine. In my twenties, I think, 824 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: you move to Los Angeles, you want to make all 825 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: these friends, you want to be around all these people, 826 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, wait, I don't feel great when 827 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: I'm around them. I don't feel like myself. I feel 828 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: like I'm trying to have to be someone i'm not 829 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: or proved to them that I'm something. And I don't 830 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: want to do those things, Like I want to be 831 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: truly who I am authentically. And as I got into 832 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: my thirties, I realize it's okay that my circle is smaller, 833 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: Like it's okay to have these people who I know 834 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: love me and are there for me no matter what, 835 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: and then everyone else is a bonus. Yeah. Absolutely, And 836 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: I love that you did that. Like I think if 837 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 1: we started seeing our relationships as degrees of connection as 838 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 1: opposed to like friends and not friends, yeah, it becomes 839 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: a lot easier to know how much time and how 840 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: much energy to give someone When you decide to make 841 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: that transition from creating content for amazing brands prestige brands, 842 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: and you're making the switch to being like, I'm going 843 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: to be a founder. I'm going to create sum of Fridays. 844 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: When you're making that transition, walk us through some of 845 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: the things you thought about, because today I find that 846 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: everyone feels the pressure now, just as we felt the 847 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: pressure when we were growing up to work at a 848 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: big company or a well known organization. Today the pressure 849 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 1: is everyone should be an entrepreneur and found their own company. 850 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of like the energy and 851 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: everyone thinks like they have to launch something or whatever. 852 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,959 Speaker 1: When you're going from selling other people's things to saying 853 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm actually becoming a founder, what are the questions you 854 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: think people should be asking. What are the insights they 855 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: should be considering, Because I think it's very easy for 856 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: everyone today to think, oh, i've got a few followers, 857 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: I should launch something, or because I'm connected, I should 858 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: do this, And I don't think that that always works out. 859 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: Obviously it's worked out for you, So I'm wondering what 860 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: were the things you had to think about. I think 861 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: if I had to go back and tell myself when 862 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: we started the brand, what do I wish that I knew, 863 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: and I wish that somebody would have asked me, which 864 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: it's all the things that I love now, but like, 865 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: do you really want to run a company? Like the 866 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: days that we launch a product, Let's say we launch 867 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 1: fry products a year, that's five of three sixty five, 868 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: So the other three hundred and sixty days you really 869 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: want to work on a business? Do you really want 870 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: to work on a company? Do you want to be 871 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: a manager of people? Do you want to run the 872 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 1: finances and operations? Like it's all of those not fun 873 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: things that you do every day. And so I would 874 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: just ask yourself before starting a business, like do I 875 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: really want a business because I love running a company? 876 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: Or do I just want to say I have my 877 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: own company? And that's fine if you don't love some 878 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: of the other stuff. And so Lauren, who's my co 879 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: founder of Summer Fridays, we have no ego in saying 880 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: there's things we either don't want to do or we 881 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: don't know how to do. And once we grew a 882 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: little bit after our first couple of years, we were 883 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: able to hire for the things that we didn't know 884 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: how to do because we really wanted to bring the 885 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: best people in to run the business who we felt 886 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: like could get us to the next level. I think 887 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: it's difficult when you're starting a business because running a 888 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: company is actually just so difficult. The day and day 889 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: out of production of the company, of the items, like 890 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: selling the things, getting them online. Those things are not 891 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: the sexy fun parts of the job, and you have 892 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: to really want to do that because at the very beginning, 893 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: you have very small teams. It's basically yourself, maybe a 894 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: couple other people, and you're not making a lot of 895 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: money for the first few years. I think there may 896 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: be a misconception of like, oh, you start a brand 897 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you're rich and you 898 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 1: have all this money, and that's definitely not the case. 899 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: It takes a long time because whatever you invested into 900 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: the business and you sell stuff, you're just recouping your 901 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: money for what you've already invested. And then as you grow, 902 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: you make a little bit of money, you put it 903 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: back into the business. You hire a person, and then 904 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: you hire someone else. And so the first few years 905 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: of summer Fridays, we didn't pay ourselves because we thought 906 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: it was more important to invest back into the company. 907 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 1: So if you're thinking about starting a business as yourself, 908 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: Do I actually want to run a company? And if 909 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: you do, great. If you don't, then maybe say, like 910 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: what am I good at? Like what am I passionate about? 911 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: What do I love so much? Why do I maybe 912 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: want to start a company? Is it because you love 913 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: the creative? There's so many creative jobs. You could be 914 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: a creative director, you could work at an ad agency, 915 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,720 Speaker 1: you could consult for brands. If you love creating product, 916 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 1: maybe you help someone with product development. There's so many 917 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: skills that we learn as creators. Find what you love 918 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: best and then offer that as a service to other brands. 919 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: So something I love is like branding and marketing, and 920 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: I think in life this is just one of the 921 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: first things that I will do, of many, and I 922 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: hope in the future I can consult for brands and 923 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: work for them on branding and marketing because that's something 924 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm passionate about. So I would love to continue to 925 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: do that over a portfolio of them. And I know, 926 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: like the actual starting of the business is difficult, so 927 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how many more times I could do 928 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: that part of it. Now that we're here, I'm so 929 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: grateful but I just wish I would have known going 930 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: into it how hard the actual starting of the business 931 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: and running of the business data day is. Think about 932 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: the way your team works right now. If all the 933 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: work is spread out across different documents, spreadsheets, and a 934 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: stack of workflow tools, it's tougher to focus on getting 935 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: things done, let alone getting them done together. 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But then there were amazing partnerships like me 996 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: being chief Purpose Officer at Calm, which was just a 997 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: brilliant synergy because I was friends with the founders for 998 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 1: four years. They were already solving a problem that I 999 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 1: deeply believed in, and I would rather join forces than 1000 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: go and build something to compete with my friends. Well, 1001 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: it's already an existing, incredible platform. So it's like if 1002 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: I can plug into what you already have created and 1003 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 1: I can make it even better by coming on board, 1004 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: we can make this really great instead of me having 1005 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 1: something that I'm trying to build and takes time. And 1006 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: so I think you can think about, like what are 1007 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: you uniquely good at? What skills can I offer someone else? 1008 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,959 Speaker 1: And go work with a company, go consult for people, 1009 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: and then see from there. Maybe I do want to 1010 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: start my own thing, or I can do this with 1011 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: other people. And so if there's a brand you love, 1012 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: maybe reach out to them, like let me create a 1013 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 1: director shoot for you, Like let me help you with 1014 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: social and you never know what person will say yes. 1015 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: Because as creators, I think we wear so many hats 1016 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: and we can be good at so many things, and 1017 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: you can take what you love as a creator and 1018 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,280 Speaker 1: then do that on a larger scale with more budget, 1019 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: working for brands and people that you love. Exactly did 1020 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: you ever raise or did you choose not to? We 1021 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: raise money, so we ended up we'll geus through the 1022 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: choice of that and then that processes, so Summer Fridays 1023 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: was self funded and then we ended up raising money 1024 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. So we had a really great first year, 1025 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: but we were running everything ourselves. We had the two 1026 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: of us, an employee, a couple consultants, and we were 1027 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: on the sales calls, we were running our retail accounts. 1028 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: But we really didn't know best how to do these things, 1029 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: and it was almost a disservice to ourselves by trying 1030 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: to figure it out ourselves. Like we got us to 1031 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: a really great point, but we saw we have a 1032 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: best seller, it's working really well. What can we do 1033 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: to take our brand to the next level and not 1034 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: lose the momentum that we had. So when we first 1035 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: launched a brand, people started reaching out to us, and 1036 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 1: raising money is a bit like dating, so you want 1037 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: to date and meet everyone, and we met any and everyone, 1038 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: and then you kind of see, like who do you like? 1039 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: Who do you enjoy spending time with? Like do I 1040 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: really want to talk to these people every day? And 1041 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: a business is like a marriage, and there's a contract 1042 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 1: like sometimes in marriages there are, and so you're getting 1043 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,240 Speaker 1: into a marriage with now another person into your business, 1044 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: so you have to ask yourselves, like are these people trustworthy? 1045 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,280 Speaker 1: Do we have the same end goal? Do I really 1046 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: trust that they want what's best for my brand and 1047 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: that if I really want something, they're going to listen 1048 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: to what I want and not because they're an invest 1049 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: and they're going to take control of something. And so 1050 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: we ended up going with a group and they have 1051 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: a minority investment, which is very small, so it means 1052 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: like we still own the majority of the business, so 1053 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: we have the majority of the sad things. But it 1054 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: was two females who founded it and they're incredible and 1055 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: they almost served like an intermediate president for us and 1056 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: helped us with hiring our org, chart what things to 1057 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: do next, and it really was the right fit for 1058 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: us and they weren't the biggest place that we went 1059 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,800 Speaker 1: out to, They didn't have the largest portfolio with the 1060 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: biggest investment they were making into the brand. But it 1061 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: was two people we trusted and a lot of our 1062 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: friends are like, you're the only people we know that 1063 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 1: like your investors, and we really do. And they're incredible. 1064 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: So they have a great portfolio brands including like Westman, Attilier, 1065 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 1: Soul Dejanniro. In food, they have fly By Jing and 1066 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: Bonza Pasta. So they focused in like good for you 1067 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: brands in food and beauty, and so we are so 1068 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: grateful to have them. So then after that, after we 1069 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: raise a little bit of money, we were able to 1070 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 1: hire more people and our first big hire was a CEO. 1071 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people when they start 1072 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: a business, like they have a dream of becoming a 1073 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: CEO and running a brand, and that was never what 1074 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: Lauren and I wanted for ourselves. And we have no 1075 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 1: ego in saying like I don't want to be the CEO, 1076 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: like I don't want to run the entire business because one, 1077 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: I've never done this before, and that's fine if you 1078 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 1: haven't and you want to figure it out along the way. 1079 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,760 Speaker 1: But we knew like what we're good at as product development, marketing, branding, 1080 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: anything that's consumer facing. And bringing on someone who could 1081 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 1: really run the business day to day so that I 1082 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 1: can create content, I can be on podcasts, like I 1083 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: can do the other things with my time was important 1084 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 1: to us. And someone whose values really aligned with the 1085 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: things that we wanted. So a company culture is really 1086 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 1: important to us. And as we interviewed for the CEO role, 1087 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: it was someone who led with kindness, who people were 1088 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,800 Speaker 1: excited to work for. And so we ended up bringing 1089 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 1: on a CEO in twenty twenty, right before the pandemic, 1090 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: and so grateful for our CEO, and so between them, 1091 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: it's been really incredible to get the brand where it 1092 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: is today. And I don't think it's possible without them. 1093 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 1: And so I think you are if you have a 1094 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: business and you're thinking about either partners or raising money, 1095 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 1: you really want to make sure that you want this 1096 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: people to be in your marriage with you and that 1097 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: your baby, which is your business. You guys all have 1098 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: the same goals aligned for where you want it to go, 1099 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 1: because then all the decisions are easier because you're all 1100 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 1: on the same page versus a group wanting one thing, 1101 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: and then another group wanting something else. It just sounds 1102 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: like you really know what's important to you, and you're 1103 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: willing to do what's important to you and what you're 1104 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 1: good at and what you value, and then there's all 1105 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: this other stuff that you realize where we have to 1106 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: find someone for that. We have to figure this out, 1107 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,280 Speaker 1: This needs to be shifted. How do you decipher between 1108 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 1: what's important to you and what you think is important? 1109 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: Because I think a lot of people, again, when they 1110 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: start something, they put the pressure of I have to 1111 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 1: be CEO because it's my baby, and if I'm not CEO, 1112 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: then someone else will think I'm just this or I'm 1113 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: just that. You don't strike me as someone who worries 1114 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 1: about what other people think of you or what you do. 1115 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,240 Speaker 1: Where does that come from? And how do you define 1116 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: or decide what's important to you. I live my life 1117 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: day to day me myself. I'm not living my life 1118 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: for other people. So if I'm so concerned with being 1119 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: called CEO, I'm going to take on a role because 1120 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 1: care the other people think that this is my title. 1121 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 1: But I have to do something every day that I 1122 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: don't enjoy. That makes no sense. So Why would I 1123 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 1: live my life for this title for other people's opinions 1124 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 1: when this is what I want to do within the business, 1125 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: and this is what's important to me. And so I 1126 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 1: like to take inventory of my life pretty frequently. So 1127 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: I usually do like my New Year's goals and intentions. 1128 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: I like to call them intentions not goals, because it's 1129 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 1: what I intend on doing for the year. And then 1130 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 1: I'm always checking in myself with like my journal every day. 1131 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 1: So it's like what's important to me? How do I 1132 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 1: want to feel today? What things do I love? And 1133 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 1: so I'll go through and I'll make like a note 1134 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 1: on my phone of like what are my energy drainers 1135 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 1: right now? Like what do I not like doing? What 1136 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 1: of these things can I eliminate? And if it's running 1137 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 1: the finances of the business, like I don't want to 1138 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: do that, So who can we hire eventually to do 1139 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: this thing? And so it's eventually just like taking less 1140 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,320 Speaker 1: of those drainers off of my plate and so I 1141 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: can really focus my time on the things that I'm 1142 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 1: good at and I enjoy doing. I think it's difficult 1143 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: for people, especially women, if you have been calling yourself 1144 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: a CEO in the company, then you have to make 1145 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: this announcement like, oh, I step down a CEO because 1146 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 1: we hired somebody. We never intended to be the CEOs 1147 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 1: of the business, so we didn't call ourselves that in 1148 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: the first place. So if and when the time came, 1149 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: we weren't like it wasn't that we were stepping down 1150 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 1: to CEOs, was that we just never had CEOs. We 1151 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 1: started the company, and a CEO as somebody who can 1152 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 1: help run the business when it gets to that phase. 1153 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 1: And so I think it's about taking your ego out 1154 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 1: of it and like, what do you really want to 1155 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 1: spend your time doing every day and just focus on 1156 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: that and not what other people think about what Most 1157 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: people probably don't even know what people's titles are anyway. 1158 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: It's like whether you're the founder or the CEO or 1159 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: the whatever it is you are, most people don't know. 1160 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,919 Speaker 1: They just think of it as your business and so 1161 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 1: don't so much worry about that, Or you're going to 1162 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,240 Speaker 1: spend your time every day doing something you don't actually 1163 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 1: want to do and you're not going to be happy, 1164 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: and then the business might suffer because of that. Yeah, 1165 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 1: you've talked so much about habits and routines, like you 1166 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 1: have a morning routine, an evening routine. You just talked 1167 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:50,280 Speaker 1: about your journaling habit, your intentions for with these things 1168 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: that became a part of your life over time, and 1169 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: if you could walk us through one of them or 1170 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 1: a couple of them in depth of your actual practice. 1171 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 1: So I'd love to hear about what is your person 1172 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 1: meditation practice, and then anyone other one that you pick 1173 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 1: that just woke us through it, because I think we 1174 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 1: see this in successful ceo, successful founders, entrepreneurs, and just happier, 1175 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: healthier people that routine and a commitment to practices are 1176 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: really beneficial in their life. What are some of yours 1177 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: that you can woke us through with a bit more? 1178 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: Yea yeah. So on the podcast, I kept interviewing people 1179 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: and everyone talked about a morning routine and meditation, and 1180 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, if all of these really successful people that 1181 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 1: I admire do this, there's got to be something to it. 1182 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 1: So pre pandemic, I was just waking up, working, going 1183 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: to sleep, working on the weekends. I had no routine 1184 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 1: in schedule. That was not great for me. But during 1185 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: the pandemic, I actually had time for myself to pick 1186 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: up a meditation habit to figure out how to journal, 1187 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: to make a morning routine for myself. So I started 1188 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: doing a morning routine because I thought other people were 1189 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: doing it, and I think that's where I failed at first, 1190 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh, these people do these things in 1191 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: their morning routine. I need to wake up and work out. 1192 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,319 Speaker 1: I need to wake up and do this. But those 1193 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 1: things didn't work for me. So it was trying something 1194 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: for a week, do I better yes or no? What 1195 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 1: things should I eliminate and what things should I keep? 1196 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: And I got it to a routine of the things 1197 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: that feel best for me. Those five things might not 1198 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: work for you, but it's the things that work best 1199 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: for me, and so it's trial and error figuring out 1200 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 1: how can I set myself out best for the day. Basically, 1201 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,840 Speaker 1: once I start working in the day, my mind is 1202 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 1: going at all times, and I am always someone who's 1203 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 1: thinking of fifty different things. And so meditation is the 1204 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 1: only time in my day where I'm actually just sitting 1205 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,000 Speaker 1: and being and thinking of either the meditation that's happening 1206 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 1: if it's guided, or I do like a thirteen to 1207 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 1: twenty meditation where there's no music, there's no guiding i 1208 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 1: just have like a bell that goes and I'm just 1209 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,839 Speaker 1: sitting and breathing, and I'm never in stillness all day. 1210 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm on my phone, the computer, and so having that 1211 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 1: time for myself really just is like a great way 1212 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 1: to start the day. And then another thing is the intentions. 1213 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: And I mentioned before I like to call them intentions 1214 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 1: instead of goals because I think we might feel like 1215 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 1: we didn't meet our goals if we didn't do this 1216 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: thing that we set out on a piece of paper 1217 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,080 Speaker 1: to cross off. But if it's my intention to do 1218 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 1: my morning routine every day, I'm intending to do it. 1219 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 1: But if I don't feel like a failure because I 1220 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 1: only did it five days this week, Or if I 1221 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 1: intend to live a healthier life and eat well and 1222 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 1: work out because I want to fuel my body, that's 1223 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 1: my intention instead of being like, oh, I have to 1224 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,879 Speaker 1: be this weight, or I want to do this thing 1225 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 1: or be at this goal. I think it's a lot 1226 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 1: kinder with yourself, so then you feel more motivated by 1227 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,320 Speaker 1: actually doing them and checking them off versus I didn't 1228 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 1: complete this goal for myself. I think it's also great 1229 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: to set actual tangible goals you can do, but also 1230 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 1: know that some goals are out of our control. So 1231 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: if you want to hit a certain number follower or 1232 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 1: a subscriber or a download count, you cannot control that. 1233 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 1: You can create the best content you can, but you 1234 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 1: can't make someone watch the content. You can't make them 1235 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 1: download or follow. So what you don't want to do 1236 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: is say like I have to hit a million followers 1237 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,399 Speaker 1: by the end of the year, and if you don't 1238 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: hit it, be upset. You can say I intend to 1239 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: create the best community this year that I can. I 1240 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 1: want the followers that are there to love me and 1241 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: be happy with the content I create, And then you 1242 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 1: can ask yourself are they happy? Am I fulfilled with 1243 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 1: the content I'm creating? And then that intention can be 1244 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: crossed off versus being disappointed that you didn't hit this 1245 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: number that was out of your control to begin with. 1246 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 1: So those intentions are really important for me. And then 1247 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,800 Speaker 1: within the business, we do set goals for ourselves of 1248 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: things that we want to do, and then set realistic 1249 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 1: expectations for ourselves of like what do we think we 1250 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 1: actually can do versus like insaying goals that you might 1251 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 1: not get to and then always feeling sad if if 1252 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 1: you're not hitting them. I love the way you just 1253 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 1: describe the difference between intentions and goals. I hope everyone 1254 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 1: because you know, whenever you're setting news resolutions or setting goals, 1255 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 1: you're setting new quarterly goals. Like that language needs to 1256 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 1: change because goals what you want out of something, and 1257 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 1: intentions of what you put into something, and you only 1258 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: get out what you put in. And I love that. 1259 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,399 Speaker 1: It's so much better to measure yourself against your intentions. 1260 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: Measuring yourself against your goals will always make you feel 1261 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,399 Speaker 1: like a failure. Yeah, And I think something I've learned 1262 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 1: recently too is I can have goals and intentions for 1263 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 1: myself the things that I'm working towards because I want 1264 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 1: great things in life. Like I'm doing all the things 1265 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 1: I want because I have these big things that I 1266 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,879 Speaker 1: think I can accomplish. But I can do that while 1267 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 1: still being present and happy with where I am today. 1268 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,880 Speaker 1: And that's come from really being in my thirties. So 1269 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 1: before I was always you know, when you're younger, you're like, 1270 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:19,959 Speaker 1: I have to be married and have kids by thirty. 1271 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,719 Speaker 1: I have to do this, like Forbes thirty under thirty, 1272 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 1: I have to do all these things by this age. 1273 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,879 Speaker 1: But it's like, why when life is long? And one 1274 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: of the best exercises I did for myself was I 1275 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 1: wrote down everything I wanted to accomplish in my life 1276 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,840 Speaker 1: and the age I thought it might happen. When I 1277 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 1: got to forty five, I had nothing left there was, 1278 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 1: I had nothing left to reach. And I'm like, if 1279 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 1: I accomplish all these things by forty five, I'm going 1280 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 1: to live for decades longer. What more do I have 1281 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,359 Speaker 1: to look forward to in the years to come? That 1282 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 1: gave me so much pause to enjoy the journey I'm on. 1283 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,879 Speaker 1: Enjoy where I'm at today, Be happy because these things 1284 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: we have today, the things we get to do, the 1285 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 1: jobs we get to do, the brands we get to 1286 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 1: work with, the opportunities we have, We wished for the 1287 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,439 Speaker 1: things we have now. So I don't want to rush 1288 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 1: through them just trying to get to where I'm trying 1289 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,320 Speaker 1: to go. I want to be happy where I am today. 1290 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 1: I know it's going to come in time, and if 1291 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:04,919 Speaker 1: it's a little bit later than I thought, it's fine 1292 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 1: because I have so many more years left of my 1293 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 1: life to do all these things that I hope to accomplish. Yeah, 1294 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 1: that's such a great exercise that if you did write 1295 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,439 Speaker 1: down everything you wanted to do, most people would put 1296 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: the end date as like thirty or forty years forty five, 1297 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: and it's like, you should have achieved everything in life 1298 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 1: so much longer than that, and there's so many more 1299 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 1: gaps in between. I had a friend who recently found 1300 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 1: love and his business and his work took a bit 1301 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 1: of a back burner, but he found someone that he 1302 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 1: really wants to spend a lot of time with him. 1303 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,920 Speaker 1: That's what he was doing. And I was saying, you 1304 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 1: just won, right, like you could see that as like 1305 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 1: two years out in your business journey, and so now 1306 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 1: his business is two years behind. But I was like, 1307 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 1: you've just saved yourself years because you found a partner 1308 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 1: that you're really connected to. And I think often we 1309 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,760 Speaker 1: think of it as like they're separate, like there's work 1310 00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 1: and then there's life, and it's like, well, no, no, no, 1311 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 1: there's so inter related. The way you just share that 1312 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: is spectacular. Like I hope everyone writes that down takes 1313 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,919 Speaker 1: that away. VERA, what are you working on right now? 1314 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,440 Speaker 1: I feel like you're someone who because you start therapy 1315 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: at six, which is just like that, that's another incredible thing. 1316 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 1: But like, what are you working on right now personally, 1317 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: what's something that you're grappling with, What's something that you're 1318 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 1: wanting to be better at for yourself, for your friends, 1319 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 1: your family, whatever, anything around you. I think the presence 1320 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: is a big thing for me. I think because I 1321 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 1: used to focus so much on the future and the 1322 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 1: things I wanted for themselves. That exercise really did change 1323 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 1: my mindset. So having a gratitude journal and writing down 1324 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 1: every day. I think a lot of times we're busy 1325 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 1: in our days in our career, it's like, oh, I 1326 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 1: have to go do this, I have to do this today. 1327 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 1: But it's not I have to do it's I get 1328 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 1: to do so I get to go work here, I 1329 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 1: get to go to this opportunity, instead of I have 1330 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 1: to do these things. And that really changed my mindset 1331 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 1: of being grateful for what I get to do every 1332 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 1: single day and really focusing on that and not being 1333 00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 1: so stressed about things happening in a certain year or age. 1334 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,439 Speaker 1: I'm thirty six now, and I keep feeling like, oh, 1335 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm still not ready to do all these things, like 1336 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm still so young. I think the older I get 1337 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 1: the younger, I still feel where when I was in 1338 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,240 Speaker 1: my twenties, I was like, oh, I'm getting so older, Like, oh, 1339 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 1: thirty six is so old. But now that I'm thirty six, 1340 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,919 Speaker 1: so I'm like, it's still so young. So I think 1341 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: focusing on the present, being happy with where I am today, 1342 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 1: the things I have today, and practicing that gratitude each 1343 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: and every day. And then I think, as I've gotten 1344 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 1: older too, because my parents are older, taking care of 1345 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 1: my health. It's not about vanity, It's about how do 1346 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 1: I feel my best, how do I stay active. My 1347 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 1: parents are really young and smart in their minds and 1348 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 1: their bodies. They still travel by themselves. They're very independent people, 1349 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 1: and I think it's because they've taken care of themselves. 1350 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 1: And my dad does the cross word every day, he 1351 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 1: reads books. My mom's very independent. I think keeping your 1352 00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 1: mind young and so doing things for brain health. Now 1353 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,600 Speaker 1: that we're getting older, I'm like, okay, vrain health, higher health, mobility, 1354 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 1: those things are all important of taking care of yourself, 1355 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,920 Speaker 1: not just for Vanity's sake, but for the health of 1356 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 1: yourself so that you can be your best self in 1357 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 1: decades to come. Because I hope when I'm sixty seventy 1358 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 1: eighty ninety. I'm still able to do a lot of 1359 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 1: things that I don't feel stagnant in my body because 1360 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 1: I let my age catch up with me. I'm in 1361 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 1: the same boat as you. I feel like your thirties 1362 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,840 Speaker 1: are really for that, where like your twenties you still 1363 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 1: feel like a super person. And then in your thirties 1364 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, wait a minute, there is something known 1365 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 1: as getting older physically, I mean, and you start just 1366 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,320 Speaker 1: becoming aware of how much your body has been through 1367 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 1: because you could, and then you go, why would I 1368 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,520 Speaker 1: want to put my body through that anymore? Like why 1369 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: would I do that damage to my body? And I'm 1370 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 1: definitely with you on that. I'm spending so much time 1371 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 1: reading about longevity and learning about longevity and because not 1372 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 1: because I want to live longer or for vanity, but 1373 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 1: I want to live healthier for longer. And I think 1374 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 1: that's the difference, right, Yeah. I think health is so 1375 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 1: important to us and taking care of ourselves, what we eat, 1376 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 1: what we put into our bodies, how we spend our time, 1377 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 1: our brain, our energy, all of these things, because we 1378 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,440 Speaker 1: do want to have lower cortisol levels for the rest 1379 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,440 Speaker 1: of our lives and have quality sleep so that our 1380 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 1: brain health is there, so that we feel best in 1381 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 1: our mind to function every single day. And so I 1382 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 1: do want to live a long, healthy, youthful, smart life 1383 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 1: where I can do so many things for decades to come, 1384 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 1: and so those things are so important to me. So 1385 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 1: it's like watching documentaries around blue zones and like what 1386 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 1: are they doing here and how do they live longer, healthier, 1387 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 1: happier lives, And so those things are so important, especially 1388 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: our health, because we know, like when you don't feel good, 1389 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do about it. So it's like 1390 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,720 Speaker 1: the second I got sick recently and like as soon 1391 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 1: as I was done, I was like, wow, I'm so 1392 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 1: grateful for my body. I'm so grateful for my immune 1393 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 1: system and my good health, because when you feel bad, 1394 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 1: you take for granted the days that you feel good. 1395 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 1: So it's really about thinking about your gratitude each day 1396 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:36,720 Speaker 1: of feeling good in your body and the days that 1397 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 1: you feel good. So one of the things I write 1398 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 1: down in my journal is I am grateful for my 1399 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 1: body and mind and soul. I'm happy for my physical 1400 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: and mental health and happiness because that's so important to me. 1401 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Because it's not just like my physical health, but like, 1402 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 1: how do I feel in my mind? Do I feel happy? 1403 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 1: And you know, on the days when you don't feel 1404 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 1: so happy, you have so much gratitude for the days 1405 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,840 Speaker 1: that you do feel good mentally absolutely absolutely, And I 1406 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 1: feel like you're high performer, you're massively ambitious, you're like 1407 01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,960 Speaker 1: optimal peak performance individual, and I can relate to them. 1408 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 1: What that comes with is you naturally have higher quarters 1409 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 1: our levels because you're doing more stressful things. Right Like 1410 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 1: when Kobe Bryant's playing in the final of a game, 1411 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 1: it's like he's having to deal with more stress and 1412 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 1: then perform but then recover as fast, right, And that's 1413 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 1: all the best athletes. The World Cup's going on right now, 1414 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 1: and it's the same thing. All the best soccer players 1415 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 1: in the world are dealing with more stress. It's not 1416 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,480 Speaker 1: that they don't feel stress when they play at that 1417 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,120 Speaker 1: high level. So what are some of the things. I mean, 1418 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 1: you've given us so many habits, But that's just something 1419 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 1: because it's on my mind too. I'm thinking that if 1420 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 1: I and I'm speaking to anyone who's listening who thinks 1421 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,800 Speaker 1: they're really ambitious, they're big goals or big intentions. But 1422 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 1: then at the same time, then you have to be 1423 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 1: even more on top of your quarters our levels because 1424 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 1: you're naturally going to experience more stress. Yeah, this morning, 1425 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 1: I was talking to someone and she was like, what 1426 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,160 Speaker 1: workouts are you doing? I was like, I love Plate's. 1427 01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to go into a workout where 1428 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 1: I feel more stressed going through it, because I want 1429 01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 1: something that makes me feel good and rested. I always 1430 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 1: wear my or a ring, which I'm obsessed it. I 1431 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,800 Speaker 1: love it, and I track my sleep every night and 1432 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 1: like quality sleep really does make me feel my best 1433 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 1: the next day. I drink magnesium every night before I 1434 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,760 Speaker 1: go to bed, taking like my vitamins and supplements. And 1435 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 1: then really not like I don't watch scary movies, Like 1436 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm not doing things that are gonna make me feel 1437 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,680 Speaker 1: more excited or like feelings that would make me feel 1438 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 1: more anxious. So anything that's going to make me feel 1439 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:27,920 Speaker 1: more anxious, because I already have to feel anxious and 1440 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 1: stressed in like my job, so I don't want these 1441 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 1: added like books or shows that are going to make 1442 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 1: me feel a little bit more stressed out. And then 1443 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm someone who it physically manifests in my body. And 1444 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 1: so one day I was really stressed out. I was 1445 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 1: at the airport. I missed my flight. I was so 1446 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 1: stressed because I had to get back for something. The 1447 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 1: next day there was no flights out, and instead of 1448 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,120 Speaker 1: just relaxing and like taking a breath, I woke up 1449 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,560 Speaker 1: the next day I had a rash on my body 1450 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 1: because when I get stressed, So I have to remember, like, Okay, 1451 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 1: I can't get stressed out about things I can't control. 1452 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 1: I need to take a breath or else it's gonna 1453 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 1: physically show up in my body when I'm like overly 1454 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,800 Speaker 1: stressed about something, especially something like that I made at home. 1455 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 1: It was fine, it was all good, but I stressed 1456 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 1: myself out for no reason. So it's like doing all 1457 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,280 Speaker 1: these things that can control because stress is going to 1458 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 1: happen in our lives. We're going to have stressful days. 1459 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 1: Things are out of our control, our job, our personal life. 1460 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 1: Those things will make us stressed out. So it's like, 1461 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 1: how can I control all of the other things in 1462 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 1: my day to feel my best. Yeah, I love your 1463 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 1: insight on if you get to have a stressful day anyway, 1464 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,320 Speaker 1: you don't want your workout or your meditation to be 1465 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,320 Speaker 1: the thing that stresses you more. Marianna. I've learned so 1466 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,360 Speaker 1: much about you today, literally you have. I'm so happy 1467 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 1: I got to do this with you, and I recommend 1468 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 1: anyone who's listening or watching please do this with your friends, 1469 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,200 Speaker 1: because when you interview a friend, or you interview a parent, 1470 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 1: or you interview a family member, you realize just how 1471 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,240 Speaker 1: much life experience is stored within this human that you 1472 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 1: know you call a friend or a family member. You 1473 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,600 Speaker 1: know this very well, Marianna. We end every interview with 1474 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,480 Speaker 1: the final five. These are the fast five, where you 1475 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 1: have to answer each question in one word to one 1476 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,920 Speaker 1: sentence maximum. But before we do that, I want to 1477 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 1: ask you did I ask Was there something I didn't 1478 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 1: ask you that you wish I asked you, or something 1479 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,520 Speaker 1: you wanted to share that's on your heart that you 1480 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 1: want to let you feel We didn't touch your part. 1481 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,720 Speaker 1: I think all good. I think I just this is 1482 01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 1: like a love note to you, But like I love 1483 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 1: your content and it makes me feel so good. And 1484 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 1: what I want to put out in the world is 1485 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 1: content that makes people feel either motivated or inspired or 1486 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: something in their life that adds value and I feel 1487 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 1: like I always get that from you, and so thank 1488 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 1: you for your content because it makes me feel that way. 1489 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,800 Speaker 1: And that's the things that I want to consume every day, 1490 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 1: Like did I take away something that made me feel 1491 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 1: better or inspired or motivated? And I feel like you 1492 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 1: always bring that out of your guests, so sweet and honestly, 1493 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 1: like you've given us such a unique perspective. And this 1494 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 1: is why I wanted to talk to you, because I 1495 01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,880 Speaker 1: find you to be not only are you a successful 1496 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:48,440 Speaker 1: business person, but you're committed to your self care. And 1497 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: I think that those two things together are really inspiring 1498 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 1: to me. And that's the kind of energy I want 1499 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,040 Speaker 1: my audience to feel. That you can be successful and 1500 01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 1: do self care. You can be ambitious and affection and kind, 1501 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 1: like you can be courageous but be really sweet, and 1502 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 1: I see that all in you, and I really I 1503 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,800 Speaker 1: love people who can blend these opposites, because I think 1504 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,920 Speaker 1: for too long people have been made to believe, well, 1505 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,760 Speaker 1: if you're bold and brave, then you're strong, or you're 1506 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,919 Speaker 1: weak and meek, And I'm like, well no, there's this 1507 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,320 Speaker 1: beautiful harmony in between. And so that's my love note 1508 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 1: back to you. As well. I love that. I'm going 1509 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:24,960 Speaker 1: to start saying that I like that, but these are 1510 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 1: your final five. The first question is what is the 1511 01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,440 Speaker 1: best advice you've ever heard or received. Don't be afraid 1512 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 1: of being told now, so just asking people for something. 1513 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 1: If they say no, don't be offended. But you never 1514 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,200 Speaker 1: know who's going to say yes. That's a great piece 1515 01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,000 Speaker 1: of advice. We've never had that. That is very good, 1516 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,880 Speaker 1: and I do that a lot, so I'm with you, okay. 1517 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 1: Second question, what is the worst piece of advice you've 1518 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,920 Speaker 1: ever heard or received? The worst piece of advice was 1519 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 1: people told us when we launched Summer Fridays not to 1520 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 1: launch with jetlag mask, and so I think that was 1521 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 1: in our gut and intuition the product we wanted to 1522 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 1: launch the brand with. I don't know if it would 1523 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 1: be what it is today without that. So if you 1524 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,320 Speaker 1: have a gut feeling about something you want to do 1525 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,760 Speaker 1: personally or professionally, even if the experts tell you something else, 1526 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 1: go with what you feel is best in your gut. 1527 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 1: I love that. That's and I love that example for 1528 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 1: that as well, because it's usually the thing I remember. 1529 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,360 Speaker 1: I've never done a lot of brand partnerships or brand 1530 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,320 Speaker 1: deals because my content was always so open and wide 1531 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,120 Speaker 1: that it didn't really there weren't really industries that crossed 1532 01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 1: over as much in the beginning. And I remember one 1533 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 1: brand reached out to me and they said, Jay, we 1534 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,640 Speaker 1: want you to do this video. They didn't give me 1535 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 1: an idea, they just gave me a vision of like 1536 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:37,840 Speaker 1: we wanted to be about people living life on their 1537 01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 1: own terms. Like that's the spirit of the video. And 1538 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:41,919 Speaker 1: I was like, I love that. I can totally vibe 1539 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,240 Speaker 1: with that. And I can't even remember I had some 1540 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,240 Speaker 1: like made up fee at the time, like these very 1541 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 1: early days. I was like whatever, it wasn't that much, 1542 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,400 Speaker 1: and I went and made this video and I put 1543 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 1: my heart and soul into it because it was like 1544 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 1: one of my first brand deals, and it was even 1545 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,440 Speaker 1: though the brand deal was tiny, it was just so 1546 01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 1: important to me that I got to make this piece 1547 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 1: of content and I shared it with them and they 1548 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 1: were like, Jay, we don't Yeah, this is not going 1549 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,440 Speaker 1: to work. And I was like, I put so I 1550 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 1: put more money into the production than they were paying me. 1551 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 1: But I was so passionate about and they're like, yeah, 1552 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,520 Speaker 1: it's not gonna work. I didn't have a contract, I 1553 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,280 Speaker 1: wasn't tuned into what I needed. They said, no, we 1554 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,360 Speaker 1: don't want this, we don't think you're the right fit 1555 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 1: for this. I uploaded the video anyway because I really 1556 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,679 Speaker 1: liked it. To this day, it's my most watched video. 1557 01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 1: It's got three hundred and eighty seven million views, like 1558 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 1: it's on faceboe. It is one of my biggest videos 1559 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,879 Speaker 1: of all time. And I love the video. It's it's awesome. 1560 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:34,920 Speaker 1: But they didn't get it. And that's the video that 1561 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 1: changed my entire career. And I'm really happy that there's 1562 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,000 Speaker 1: no brand attached to it because it's true and real 1563 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,720 Speaker 1: and yeah yeah, but really it's like going with your gut, 1564 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,040 Speaker 1: like you know what's going to work best totally, and 1565 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 1: so even if these experts tell you it's the wrong 1566 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 1: thing or don't do this, but you know this is 1567 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 1: what you want to create, put it out into the world, 1568 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,400 Speaker 1: because look, your most watched video are best selling. Yeah, which, 1569 01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,120 Speaker 1: And I love those examples because I think we do 1570 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,840 Speaker 1: listen to the experts, and so love that, love that, 1571 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,800 Speaker 1: love that. Question Number three, what's something that you used 1572 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,560 Speaker 1: to value that you don't value as much anymore? Social 1573 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,839 Speaker 1: a bit, which is weird because it's also our jobs. 1574 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,640 Speaker 1: But I think I used to value what it was 1575 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,559 Speaker 1: on there so much and now I understand it's a 1576 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,040 Speaker 1: tool to do my job. It's not my entire identity, 1577 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 1: and so I have a really good relationship I think 1578 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,439 Speaker 1: with it. Now. What's the biggest lesson you've learned in 1579 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,680 Speaker 1: the last twelve months. I would say just taking care 1580 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,599 Speaker 1: of my health is really the most important. Like there's 1581 01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,040 Speaker 1: no amount of money or anything in the world that 1582 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,479 Speaker 1: you can do, Like, your health is the most important 1583 01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 1: thing you can take care of. Things will come, So 1584 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,920 Speaker 1: do everything you can and your control to be your 1585 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 1: best self and feel your best because that way, if 1586 01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,200 Speaker 1: something were to come, you are in your best shape 1587 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,800 Speaker 1: that you can be. Yeah. Absolutely couldn't agree more. Very 1588 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,360 Speaker 1: true for my year this year too, So I definitely 1589 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,720 Speaker 1: take that to fifth and final question. If you could 1590 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,360 Speaker 1: create one law that everyone in the world had to follow, 1591 01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:01,920 Speaker 1: what would it be? Oh, one law. It's kind of 1592 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 1: a little bit we talked about earlier of like saying 1593 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,439 Speaker 1: yes or no to things. So if you want to 1594 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,479 Speaker 1: say yes to something, it should be an absolute, full 1595 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,880 Speaker 1: body yes, I really want to do this. If you 1596 01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,960 Speaker 1: feel any hesitation or any no. There might be something 1597 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,240 Speaker 1: in your gut and intuition telling you why I want 1598 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:18,639 Speaker 1: to say no to this or why I don't want 1599 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,320 Speaker 1: to do this, and then you end up saying yes 1600 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,200 Speaker 1: and you don't really want to do it anyway. So 1601 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,960 Speaker 1: say yes to the things you feel full body yes too, 1602 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:26,799 Speaker 1: and say no to the things that you don't feel 1603 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 1: absolutely truly like aligns with you and your gut and 1604 01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:33,200 Speaker 1: your intuition. That's great, Marianna. Here everyone, the podcast is 1605 01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,840 Speaker 1: called Life with Marianna. You know the brand Summer Fridays 1606 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,679 Speaker 1: makes you go subscribe to the podcast. Do follow Marianna 1607 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,360 Speaker 1: on Instagram on all social media platforms that you use, 1608 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:45,960 Speaker 1: and please, the biggest thing I want you to do 1609 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 1: is tag what you learn from this episode. So take 1610 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,839 Speaker 1: a screenshot right now, tag me in Marianna both on TikTok, 1611 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,360 Speaker 1: on Instagram, Twitter, whatever platform you're using, and let us 1612 01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,000 Speaker 1: know what you learned, what you're going to try out, 1613 01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 1: what you're testing for a week, what habit really stayed 1614 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,120 Speaker 1: with you, a new journal question that you might have gained. 1615 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,559 Speaker 1: I love knowing the insights that you actually apply to 1616 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,680 Speaker 1: your life, and that's what I want next year to 1617 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,759 Speaker 1: be about the next twelve months of your life. Whenever 1618 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,679 Speaker 1: you're listening to this is not how much can you learn, 1619 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,719 Speaker 1: not how much can you grow, not how much pressure 1620 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,479 Speaker 1: you put on yourself, but how much can you apply? 1621 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,840 Speaker 1: And I think in Marianna's journey, I see a lot 1622 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,800 Speaker 1: of applied wisdom. And I think applied wisdom has so 1623 01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,960 Speaker 1: much more value than knowledge or books read or episodes 1624 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,639 Speaker 1: listened to, and so focus on application. Marianna, You've been 1625 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,360 Speaker 1: so wonderful, has always. It's been such a joy having 1626 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 1: you on. I hope we have you on again and 1627 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,479 Speaker 1: keep tracking this incredible journey that you're on. And thank 1628 01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 1: you for giving us permission to live long, healthy, successful 1629 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 1: lives that don't have to end by forty or forty five. 1630 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,599 Speaker 1: There's so much life to live. Thank you for Thanks Maria. 1631 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,800 Speaker 1: If you love this episode, you will also love my 1632 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,320 Speaker 1: interview with Charles do Hig on how to hack your brain, 1633 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:04,480 Speaker 1: change Jenny habit effortlessly, and the secret to making better decisions.