Speaker 1: The Sales back on Let's play ball. Welcome in everybody
Speaker 1: to fantasy pros. This is leading off, brought to you
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Speaker 1: Pa Joe Pisapia, and with me today, as always, is
Speaker 1: the Welsh, Chris Welsh, and it's you, the Peanuts and
Speaker 1: the Cracker Jacks. And today we're getting closer and closer
Speaker 1: to the All Star Break. But there's a rebound, a resurfacing,
Speaker 1: if you will, of Chris Sale. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: that today. We're gonna talk about the Mets Brave Series
Speaker 1: and how hot that's gonna be. We also got Yankees
Speaker 1: Red Sox closing out. So I feel like the schedulers
Speaker 1: did a very good job this year of creating a
Speaker 1: little heat here in July, right before the All Star break. Welsh,
Speaker 1: what do you think about the schedule?
Speaker 2: Almost like they knew what they were doing, almost like
Speaker 2: they planned it perfectly. I like it, no, as it
Speaker 2: should be. These are the type of thing I mean,
Speaker 2: obviously in parody of these sports. You know, you can't
Speaker 2: predict when the team's going to completely fall apart or
Speaker 2: anything like that, but they do a pretty good job
Speaker 2: of knowing where teams are going to go and creating
Speaker 2: a pretty good schedule.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like this too. Mister Buster is
Speaker 1: back today. He's finally tuning in this work. He's been
Speaker 1: he's been out, I guess unavailable to watch the show.
Speaker 1: He missed all the peanuts and the cracker jacks. But
Speaker 1: a break for me was nice. This is what happens.
Speaker 1: He give somebody a hat, you let them win the contact.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, Joe, you Joe.
Speaker 1: They turn on you. They turned on full.
Speaker 2: We are by the way coming full. We are with
Speaker 2: the we are yeah, my rid zone.
Speaker 1: They got to get the fancy blues behind me all that.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're going on.
Speaker 2: We're like the background profile pictures of the fantasy footballers.
Speaker 2: We're just like a bright color and then our head.
Speaker 2: It's fun.
Speaker 1: All right. Let's talk about Chrissale. He did hit the
Speaker 1: k prop over the four and a half. He got
Speaker 1: the five zah Griselle blanks, the rays and the season debut,
Speaker 1: so he was very good out of the gate. As
Speaker 1: we were talking about, these guys come back, they're ready
Speaker 1: to go playoff time. Basically, right here, you're making playoff
Speaker 1: pushes in the second half, it's go time. Chrisale is
Speaker 1: the big addition here for the Red Sox. In the
Speaker 1: second half, Logan Web strikes out eight over six scoreless innings.
Speaker 1: Cole had eleven strikeout seven shoutout for Rames. So it
Speaker 1: didn't matter because Clay Holmes finally bit the big one,
Speaker 1: gave up four runs and the loss. So look, it
Speaker 1: was bound to happen. I mean, you can't be perfect
Speaker 1: every time, but certainly a little bit of a kick
Speaker 1: here for the Yankee bullpen. Do you think the the
Speaker 1: rumblings begin now about the well when Chapman is you know,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, you know, let's go back to Chapman
Speaker 1: one hundred percent at the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm confused by where they're going to go with
Speaker 2: it outside of just amassing trades and getting more bullpen arms,
Speaker 2: probably to get a third guy in there to join
Speaker 2: in the rotation. The other day they brought in a
Speaker 2: roll this in the fifth. I think it was our
Speaker 2: sixth inning and Clay decimating. Here is what makes me sad,
Speaker 2: because you know, I've been like big team top ten
Speaker 2: closer Clay Holmes rest a year and Chapman struggled at all.
Speaker 2: He would take this absolute implosion. I think, an implosion
Speaker 2: enough that it would push the Yankees to not annoint
Speaker 2: to anything. You know, they just go back to what's simple,
Speaker 2: a rold As Chapman, and then you could go in
Speaker 2: and make an acquisition. Yeah today is uh. I like
Speaker 2: that doctor Glenn is associated. When I don't have my hat,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna laugh, I might lash out on somebody.
Speaker 1: Just what GQ picture of Doctor Glenn too, Like he's
Speaker 1: like literally on the cover of GQ. You just got
Speaker 1: like the fscapes. Yeah, that's true. He is kind of
Speaker 1: representing visitors. That is a chiming into the Mets offense
Speaker 1: has me concerned me too. They certainly need they The
Speaker 1: problem is when Alonso's not driving in runs or he's
Speaker 1: in the slump and he is right now, that's what happens.
Speaker 1: But look, you know it was a good game there yesterday.
Speaker 1: I got to watch Strider pitch a lot, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's the first time outside really highlights, I've gotten to
Speaker 1: really sit and watch him pitch, and I do feel
Speaker 1: like he is better suited to the bullpen. I think's
Speaker 1: a guy can come in just blow people away. In
Speaker 1: the bullpen. I don't know as a starting pitcher, you know,
Speaker 1: if that's gonna be his future. I really don't. And
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this out well.
Speaker 2: Because of the inconsistencies of like.
Speaker 1: He's but also watching him mechanically. He's a smaller guy too,
Speaker 1: you know, He's not like one of these big guys
Speaker 1: throwing one hundred miles an hour. You know. I just
Speaker 1: feel like modern day baseball watching him mechanically, watching what
Speaker 1: he does, watching the size of him, watching the lack
Speaker 1: of you know, he didn't get a long run at Clemson,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because of the COVID stuff
Speaker 1: and all the things that were going on there, So
Speaker 1: it was like he had, like, you know, his big
Speaker 1: body of work to really build in on. There's something
Speaker 1: about him that I wonder if maybe he is a
Speaker 1: fantastic cell high in dynasty leagues right now. Not to
Speaker 1: say that it can't be a good pitcher, but I
Speaker 1: wonder if the looming great potential makes him worth more
Speaker 1: than he might actually be in reality. Do you think
Speaker 1: I'm off base there?
Speaker 2: And I think you're off base. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: some of those concerns were there with him, but I
Speaker 2: think the biggest I mean he is throwing. I mean
Speaker 2: he's throwing strikes and getting strikeouts at an elite clip.
Speaker 2: He's striking out. I haven't even looked at it as
Speaker 2: k per nine is. I have to assume it's something.
Speaker 1: Around one hundred and twenty eight. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's some ridiculous out. But his biggest concern is
Speaker 2: does he get wild, does he stop throwing strikes, and
Speaker 2: does he start walking? Guys, that's the worry. It's not
Speaker 2: about swinging and missing, it's not about the arsenal. It's
Speaker 2: that and he's answered that to a pretty good degree
Speaker 2: this year. I think he has a chance to be
Speaker 2: a really really elite starting, strikeout starting pitcher. And I
Speaker 2: could see where you would want to sell on him,
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't kill anybody for doing it. But I'm
Speaker 2: pretty high on him, especially these because here's the other deal.
Speaker 2: A guy that can strike out at that clip, the
Speaker 2: least you're gonna get to be able to stay in
Speaker 2: the rotation and continue going is going to be really high.
Speaker 2: You're striking out eight or nine a game. This isn't
Speaker 2: like some small stint thing. They need to do whatever
Speaker 2: they can to keep him in there, you know. I
Speaker 2: mean the Diamondbacks went through this long time ago with
Speaker 2: Archie Bradley. Archie Bradley coming out of Oklahoma. Hey, he only
Speaker 2: had two or three fourteen Capri nine. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: But that's a reliever can and and I watched him
Speaker 1: yesterday too, you.
Speaker 2: Know, as a starter by the way, yeah, Cape nine.
Speaker 1: As a starter, right, I mean, I guess I look
Speaker 1: at I don't know. I look at the stuff, Like
Speaker 1: I said, I look at the frame, I look at
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and it just feels like this is
Speaker 1: a guy that is gonna be It's gonna go one
Speaker 1: of two ways. I think that they if they make
Speaker 1: him a starter, and that seems to be what they
Speaker 1: really want to do deep down in Atlanta, I think
Speaker 1: they're going to regret it. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: one of those things that if they just made him
Speaker 1: this elite, ridiculous Craig kimberrel as bullpen guy for the
Speaker 1: next six years in Atlanta, then he would be just
Speaker 1: miraculously good and fantastic. I don't know, I'm just a
Speaker 1: little bit worried. And I love the mustache, love the velocity.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. Yesterday's start. Chris Sale obviously
Speaker 2: good under the numbers. He only got four total swing
Speaker 2: and misses in that game, no whiffs at all on
Speaker 2: his change up slider looked pretty good. Vila was up.
Speaker 2: Would you rather have Chris Sale or Spencer Strider in Dynasty?
Speaker 1: Oh? Older? Well no?
Speaker 2: But okay, but no, but is older.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm also worrying that Sales maybe on
Speaker 1: the downside of his career. So I'm gonna say Stryder
Speaker 1: rest of seasonst what you were gonna ask me? Now?
Speaker 1: The rest of the season. That's an interesting conversation.
Speaker 2: No, that's the next one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the rest of season. Sale is who I'd
Speaker 1: rather have because I believe I think the Red Sox
Speaker 1: are in it. I think the Red Sox have shown
Speaker 1: you that they're committed to winning, and I think the
Speaker 1: Red Sox and Chris Sale, I mean, look, Sale has
Speaker 1: earned that respect for me, and Strider is still an unknown.
Speaker 1: So I know that's probably an unpoppular opinion. Everybody loves
Speaker 1: the moment right now, and Snyder is very talented. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to take away I'm not saying he's bad,
Speaker 1: but like I said, watching him pitch, not the hilosophy,
Speaker 1: but watching him pitch, I feel like his stuff translates
Speaker 1: so well to being a dominant ninth inning guy as
Speaker 1: opposed to one of these five inning you know, four
Speaker 1: and two thirds, I'm gonna strike out eight guys kind
Speaker 1: of starting pitchers. I just that's what I see the
Speaker 1: difference between this two guys.
Speaker 2: Here's one thing I would add with you as well,
Speaker 2: which works in your favor of this. And this is
Speaker 2: where you have to see the development is you can't.
Speaker 2: I really just don't believe in these two pitch pitchers.
Speaker 2: Patrick Corbyn is a perfect example of someone who first Hardock.
Speaker 1: Was a two pitch pitcher you always hated for years,
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 2: But he had to redevelop. You've got to redevelop into
Speaker 2: throwing more. He's throwing essentially ninety five percent of his
Speaker 2: pitches are a fastball or slider. He's got a five
Speaker 2: percent change up right now. That has to change. You know,
Speaker 2: the same thing is going on with any of these guys.
Speaker 2: Hunter Green has been readjusting he's a sixty eight percent
Speaker 2: fastball guy because a fastball has been absolutely elite. The
Speaker 2: slider elite. But when you got walk problems like he does.
Speaker 2: He's a twenty six percentile walk, which is not good.
Speaker 2: His obviously whifts and everything or elite you've got to
Speaker 2: be able to mix in. So what I want to
Speaker 2: see him from him from a developmental standpoint is to
Speaker 2: add a real true third pitch or a fourth pitch
Speaker 2: if you need to, whatever you can do. If you
Speaker 2: only want to throw your change up five or six
Speaker 2: percent of the time, get something else in there so
Speaker 2: you've got that mix, so the slider and fastball are
Speaker 2: under maybe eighty five percent of the time, and then
Speaker 2: play around with those. That'll be the maturation, which I
Speaker 2: think makes him an a pitcher. If not, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but it just reminds me a lot of Dylan Sees
Speaker 2: without the the two elite plus pitches like Cees has
Speaker 2: with the secondary arsenal. It is just two big main
Speaker 2: pitches with Strider, and that's it. SE's had two plus
Speaker 2: pitches and secondaries with some command issues and elite strikeouts,
Speaker 2: and those took a while, and it did, and Strider
Speaker 2: could have some ups and downs, and I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on here. The Orioles nine in
Speaker 1: a row. How about them? Apple's pretty outstanding.
Speaker 2: Forty four now, that's pretty.
Speaker 1: The entire American leagueese we'll talk about that in a
Speaker 1: little bit. Is five hundred or above, which is pretty
Speaker 1: miraculous considering how good those teams are. You think somebody
Speaker 1: would be beaten up on someone. Matt Olsen hit the
Speaker 1: go ahead home run for the Braves, go past the
Speaker 1: mess yesterday, Freddy Freeman homeward as well. And Jose Burrios
Speaker 1: there you go, Jekyl and Hyde. Thirteen strikeouts for Jose
Speaker 1: Burrios h So there you got who knows you know?
Speaker 1: You know, Jose Burrios is like that can in the
Speaker 1: grocery store that like the lay bull's fallen off and
Speaker 1: you have no idea what it is. It could be peas,
Speaker 1: could be corn, could be baked beans, no idea what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: That if you're like me, you immediately pull the label off.
Speaker 2: The label has to go. The amount of labels I
Speaker 2: pull off of, like water bottles and stuff, it's just
Speaker 2: a tick. It has to go.
Speaker 1: Are you one of those people? Were you just sitting
Speaker 1: there and you scratched the water bottle?
Speaker 2: Not all the time, but like, if I'm kind of
Speaker 2: hanging out with a bottle. I'm probably gonna pull the
Speaker 2: label off at some point. That's very likely.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, injuries, Mike Trout was pulled with
Speaker 1: back spasms. Gross, this is not good news. Miami. Miami's
Speaker 1: Garrett Cooper has X rays turn up clean on the knee.
Speaker 1: So that's a good story. Trevor's story not so much
Speaker 1: good of a story though. He was hit on the hand,
Speaker 1: exited yesterday's game. Is Starling Marte out of the lineup
Speaker 1: again today, No surprise there. We'll see what happens. I
Speaker 1: want to talk about the Trevor story one though, because
Speaker 1: hit on the hand. I haven't seen anything yet. Have
Speaker 1: you seen any updates yet on Trevor's story in that
Speaker 1: hand issue?
Speaker 2: I haven't seen anything this morning.
Speaker 1: Okay. I did see though yesterday after the show that
Speaker 1: we did that Freddy Peralta is moving and progressing forward.
Speaker 1: He feels one hundred percent and that's very very important
Speaker 1: for the Milwaukee Brewers and very important for all the
Speaker 1: fantasy folks out there too. Julia Rodriguez, by the way,
Speaker 1: also serving his suspension also, so just throwing that out there. Also,
Speaker 1: there's Yelich remains out of the lineup for the Brewers
Speaker 1: with his back issues continuing, and the Brewers also sent
Speaker 1: Keston Hira down to triple A. One of the fun
Speaker 1: things I don't know if he saw this was Miguel Cabrera.
Speaker 1: I they had to give a day off today because
Speaker 1: yesterday he stole second and then an attempted to steal third.
Speaker 1: He ended up scoring and that was fantastic.
Speaker 2: Did you see his quote? Did you see his quote? Man,
Speaker 2: I wish I had it here right now, but he
Speaker 2: essentially me, I don't know if I'll be able to
Speaker 2: find it quick enough. But they asked him about that.
Speaker 2: There are a couple of quotes. Actually, one we can't
Speaker 2: say from aj Hinch what he thought about it, but
Speaker 2: he said, in the back of his mind, he was
Speaker 2: just thinking about how Ricky said that like when you go,
Speaker 2: when you go, you got to go and you don't
Speaker 2: think about it, and that's what he said. He's like,
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about that and I just had to
Speaker 2: go and not think about it. I love that what
Speaker 2: Miguel Cabrera was thinking about Ricky Henderson while he was
Speaker 2: on second phase give me a break.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you gotta think about something I mean
Speaker 1: he had time to think about a lot of players.
Speaker 1: By the time it gets from first to second from
Speaker 1: Miguel Carbre, he can think about the entire encyclopedia. This
Speaker 1: is a fun one from Paul. In our chat, Trevor
Speaker 1: story had one good week this year, and the rest
Speaker 1: of it has sucked. About this at all. I think
Speaker 1: that's a little hyperbolic, but the feeling and intention is right.
Speaker 2: It's pretty close.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a little hyperbolic, but that's okay. But
Speaker 1: that's all right. We're gonna talk about other things today.
Speaker 1: It's time to talk about right and wrong. I did
Speaker 1: mine yesterday. The players that I was very much in
Speaker 1: on going into this year, the two that I was
Speaker 1: most right, the two that I was most wrong. So
Speaker 1: Welsh today, let's get Let's start off with the players
Speaker 1: who are most wrong about Yeah, and who are those?
Speaker 1: Oh guys, I.
Speaker 2: Will tell you, well, I'll tell you I don't know
Speaker 2: about anybody else, and I'd be curious with you. Joe,
Speaker 2: I get so hype. So I went back and looked
Speaker 2: at my overall list ranks. I've been adjusting my position
Speaker 2: player ranks, and that kind of helped me a little bit.
Speaker 2: When you go and look at them, I get so
Speaker 2: focused on the wrong I can't even focus on the right.
Speaker 2: I just don't even process that. I'm just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that guy should be there, he should be there. And
Speaker 2: then you see the ones that are wrong, and they
Speaker 2: just are in your face and you can't stop looking
Speaker 2: at them. The two that jump out to me when
Speaker 2: I took a look, because there's just lots of names
Speaker 2: that think you can choose from one, probably the biggest
Speaker 2: is Cody Bellinger. I made the cases that he had
Speaker 2: made some swing changes in the off season, maybe he
Speaker 2: had stopped a few things that were going on in
Speaker 2: the past. If you know what I'm saying, you know,
Speaker 2: changing the approach, changing you know how he was going
Speaker 2: to be. Nothing has changed whatsoever. I was a rebuy
Speaker 2: back in those counting stats are actually pretty good, I
Speaker 2: think if I remember correctly last so it's eleven homers,
Speaker 2: eleven stolen bases, but hitting like you know, two ten
Speaker 2: or something, it's it's garbage. I was wrong about him,
Speaker 2: regardless of the counting sets. He didn't change. The other
Speaker 2: one was my kind of ending of the year or
Speaker 2: ending of the draft season. Jump on Wander Franco even
Speaker 2: take away the injury, it still doesn't look good. He
Speaker 2: had one good month kind of like Trevor Story did,
Speaker 2: where you know, Story had this big explosive week. Wander
Speaker 2: had the March April push where he had a majority
Speaker 2: of his homers he hit over three hundred, and then
Speaker 2: with his injuries, he also just was a nothing burger.
Speaker 2: I mean, even if you were to play the rest
Speaker 2: of the season, he looks like he's at best a
Speaker 2: fifteen to fifteen guy. That progression didn't happen yet. So
Speaker 2: I think those were my two two big wrongos. Though
Speaker 2: I do think there is a gray area player Byron
Speaker 2: Buxton because I said two bombs. He's a gray area
Speaker 2: because his average is the worst. Yeah, but his counting amaze.
Speaker 2: He has half the stolen bases of Kyle Schwerber ha
Speaker 2: and uh so I love.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe i'm how many how many Miguel
Speaker 1: Cabrera have now.
Speaker 2: Buckston has only one more than Miguel Cabrera. That's a
Speaker 2: better way to put that, So take that for what
Speaker 2: it is. On the right, I picked two pictures that
Speaker 2: I was really really aggressive on and I also think
Speaker 2: you can put in here the right end closers on
Speaker 2: paying on the high end like class. That was one
Speaker 2: that I had. I had probably higher than anybody, and
Speaker 2: I think that paid. But the two pictures I was
Speaker 2: really high on Zach Gallon coming at an incredibly cheap
Speaker 2: cost and has been, you know, relatively positively efficient. And
Speaker 2: Joe Musgrove. Joe Musgrove, you know that was a weed. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was. It was got to have Musgrove, Gotta have Muskrove.
Speaker 2: And now you're looking at him as an easy, you know,
Speaker 2: top fifty. Overall, he was the altar.
Speaker 1: He was the guy that we said, look, why are
Speaker 1: we going for big time early pitching When there's al Contra,
Speaker 1: when there's musk Grove, when there's mcla hand. There was
Speaker 1: a whole grouping and they were call on that same ADP.
Speaker 1: If you recall, you could get like two of those
Speaker 1: guys for you know, a really good cost as opposed
Speaker 1: to trying to go with it the grom Ra, Sures
Speaker 1: or any of these top guys that were out there.
Speaker 1: Big news breaking, by the way, the Blue Jays have
Speaker 1: fired Charlie Montoya manager. So there you go. That's according
Speaker 1: to the Athletic and Ken Rosenthal's bow Tie apparently confirmed
Speaker 1: the story. So Tony LaRussa not the next manager to
Speaker 1: be fired, shocking. Nobody's more surprise than Tony LaRussa, but
Speaker 1: Charlie Montoya is out. The Blue Jays have underperformed, there's
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. And your thoughts, you seem surprised
Speaker 1: by this.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not surprised. I think I said this a
Speaker 2: little while back, like fire their hitting coach, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, what is going on with Baschet's fall, in
Speaker 2: Vlad's fall, and the struggles they had with like a
Speaker 2: team White struggle with sliders, and like, the hitting just
Speaker 2: seems completely off. There's some I don't know, I would
Speaker 2: blame any inconsistencies, inconsistencies on pitching or anything like that,
Speaker 2: but the hitting has been wildly weird, and I guess
Speaker 2: I see it. You just sometimes you look at these
Speaker 2: and it's like, I don't know, I feel like with Montoya,
Speaker 2: maybe they would have just kind of, I don't know,
Speaker 2: taken out a couple of coaches and see if they
Speaker 2: could change that. But that's a little that's a little surprising.
Speaker 2: How are we in a world where Tony L. Russa
Speaker 2: is still just walking around just mumbling around with this
Speaker 2: gig and all of these other How many managers have
Speaker 2: we now had fired? Is that the third manager that's
Speaker 2: not named Tony the rust of this year.
Speaker 1: Joe Girardi Joe Madden is also the first non Joe
Speaker 1: fired this year. No matter what mister Buster might want,
Speaker 1: I am still here. I'm going no place. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's uh. Look, man, expectations. This is
Speaker 1: the difference. You know. It's it's easy to be the
Speaker 1: young team chasing. You're the upstar Blue Jays, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden this year you are the team that
Speaker 1: has expectations and Yankees have really just pulled away from
Speaker 1: the field. And you look, and this is something we
Speaker 1: were going to talk about, So let's talk about the
Speaker 1: fun fact. The Ale East is fire five hundred or better.
Speaker 1: The Orioles are forty four and forty four, the Blue
Speaker 1: Jays are forty six and forty two. Then you have
Speaker 1: the Red Sox with forty seven wins the Rays of
Speaker 1: forty seven wins. So I mean they're right there keeping pace.
Speaker 1: But the problem is it doesn't feel like it, which
Speaker 1: is I guess the problem. And you know, the Orioles,
Speaker 1: you know right now you're closer to the Orioles than
Speaker 1: you are the Yankees. I think that's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a disappointment. I never know firing the manager is
Speaker 1: the way to go, but I guess, you know, hey
Speaker 1: is Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think there's you know, little to little to none
Speaker 2: on the managers at the end of the day. For me,
Speaker 2: they do make that in call, but I you know,
Speaker 2: they're supposed to be in a raw ra position and
Speaker 2: they're supposed to be able to coach up the coaches
Speaker 2: and coach up the players as they can. And you know,
Speaker 2: that's where Larusa loses me because he just sits around
Speaker 2: on a golf cart and just kind of dallies around
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, when at least I saw him
Speaker 2: in spring training. So I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 2: if that's the move. Maybe it'll be a jump start.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's a bench coach in there that the team
Speaker 2: is going to get raw raw about if he gets
Speaker 2: the spot, you know, the interim spot. But Wookey Doak
Speaker 2: pre All Star Game fire manager got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Kind kind of absurd there. Corey Seeger has also
Speaker 1: been kind of absurd. Corey Seeger is a ninth Ranger
Speaker 1: to hit a home run in five straight games, which
Speaker 1: is kind of a fun stat. So that was a
Speaker 1: fun fact I threw in there. He has been on
Speaker 1: fire over the last six games, hitting three sixty four
Speaker 1: with a ten to forty I'm sorry, a ten to
Speaker 1: forty five slugging that's that's the slugging percentage. It's been
Speaker 1: unbelievable for him. One of the great Bilos. In fact,
Speaker 1: he was one of the guys that I remember doing
Speaker 1: the Trevor's Story video about and the Cell Highs and saying, hey,
Speaker 1: go sell him right now for Corey Seeger and you
Speaker 1: can probably get Corey Sieger plus because he's struggling so much.
Speaker 1: Hope he made that trade. Shane Bieber also fun fact,
Speaker 1: first complete game last night since twenty nineteen. That's been
Speaker 1: a long time for the Bieber. What are your expectations
Speaker 1: for the Beabes in the second half.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't understand the Beabs. The Beabs Vilo dips,
Speaker 2: spin loss. I mean, it looked like he was the
Speaker 2: ultimate sell, you know, get out of this. He is
Speaker 2: an anomaly. But he is that thing that I've talked
Speaker 2: about in the past where it's like you look at
Speaker 2: the Kershaws or the Verlanders. You know, as you get
Speaker 2: older you're readjusting. But I think there's like twenty seven
Speaker 2: years old, twenty six or twenty seven, So something happened
Speaker 2: in him. The change started much earlier, so instead of
Speaker 2: it being in the thirty, the velo dip and the
Speaker 2: stuff dip happened at a much earlier age, and he's
Speaker 2: adjusted magnificently. So I don't know, as much as I've
Speaker 2: been kind of sell on him, maybe move out, I
Speaker 2: don't know if you can have any other expectation than
Speaker 2: him continuously making it happen. So I think he's I
Speaker 2: think he's firmly out.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: This is just off the top of my head. I
Speaker 2: want to say he's firmly out of the top ten sps,
Speaker 2: and I don't really think he has the upside to
Speaker 2: get there, but I think he can sit in that
Speaker 2: like twelve to twenty range of starting pitchers. He's just
Speaker 2: you know, he's fine. He goes deeper into games that
Speaker 2: team is winning. He's I mean, he's a great pitcher.
Speaker 2: He's a great picture that defies the statistical odds. He
Speaker 2: defies what he's the savant Devier device, the fire, the fire, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there you got.
Speaker 1: He deflours the savant. What what's going on?
Speaker 2: What's happening here?
Speaker 1: Cooper's back with a question because he has a head
Speaker 1: to head Points League and he was here. What's up, fellas?
Speaker 1: Don't know if you remember, but I asked about de
Speaker 1: Gram Trey the guy sent over a counter Trout and
Speaker 1: j Rod for Luis, Robert Sale, de Grom, Castillo, Wander.
Speaker 1: I got to keep Strider. So look, if you're trading,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure this out. So if you're trading
Speaker 1: Trout and Julio and you're getting Robert Sale to Grom,
Speaker 1: Castillo and Wander Franco, that's a lot. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: look Welsh from a from a keeper. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's a keeper league, but it's head. I want
Speaker 1: the pictures. I mean, this is not even close. I
Speaker 1: want Grom, and I want Sale, and I want Castillo,
Speaker 1: and I hope that Robert straightens himself out, and I
Speaker 1: hope that Wander gets right. I mean, that's always this
Speaker 1: had to.
Speaker 2: Be some thing when I wasn't here, because he says,
Speaker 2: I don't either way.
Speaker 1: In the Points League, you want the pitchers. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is easy, coop. That's an easy one in baseball history.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you said that today in baseball history. Nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety nine were of the great All Star moments ever.
Speaker 1: Boston's page of Martinez pitched himself into the record book,
Speaker 1: becoming the first strikeout, the first two strikeout. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: the first four hitters in an All Star game. Struck
Speaker 1: out Barry lookin Hall of Fame, Larry Walker Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: Samy Sosa should be in the Hall of Fame, and
Speaker 1: Mark maguire to start the next sitting should be in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. So there you go. He actually
Speaker 1: ended up striking out five of the first six guys
Speaker 1: he faced. Nineteen ninety nine, Pedro Martinez. For those of
Speaker 1: you who weren't old enough or weren't watching baseball at
Speaker 1: the time, that was a special thing. It was a
Speaker 1: time to be alive. Nine. Take McClanahan and Verlander and
Speaker 1: all those guys who were pitching so well this year,
Speaker 1: crumple them up, and it still doesn't even get close
Speaker 1: to what Pedro was.
Speaker 2: He was just some of the best pitchers in history.
Speaker 2: Guys just cartoon roided up. I mean, it was the
Speaker 2: best it was like video games. It was like putting
Speaker 2: video game on rookie and just watching them go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want what are the stats on Pedro? Since
Speaker 1: since Mike Mayers taking a day off? Here, maybe we
Speaker 1: can get it. Nineteen ninety nine Pedro Martinez stat line.
Speaker 1: That's why I want to see Wonky for me. I
Speaker 1: want to I want to flash it on the screen.
Speaker 1: You got it, you got it all like a flashing anyway,
Speaker 1: But go ahead.
Speaker 2: Uh nineteen ninety nine, three hundred and thirteen strikeouts in
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirteen games. That was actually the most
Speaker 2: strikeouts he's ever had in a season. That is wild.
Speaker 2: He was He played thirty one innings where his win
Speaker 2: twenty three wins, a twenty three and four record. That
Speaker 2: is bonkers.
Speaker 1: What was the caper nine rate? If check us out?
Speaker 2: This is this is my favorite thing of all of it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll give that to you. In with three hundred and
Speaker 2: thirteen strikeouts, guess how many walks he had.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say forty two.
Speaker 2: Thirty seven thirty seven walks and it was a thirteen
Speaker 2: point two K per nine.
Speaker 1: Wait, so what's that K to walk ratio? Then? If
Speaker 1: it was three hundred something to thirty something that I
Speaker 1: would love.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm not. I'm on Baseball Reference. I'd love
Speaker 2: to see what the walk minus strikeout percentage would like it.
Speaker 2: Like I said, yeah, and a sub one whip and
Speaker 2: a sub one. Of course he has a suid one whip,
Speaker 2: but he only walked that many. Those are nasty, ridiculous numbers.
Speaker 1: Unbelieve. Like I said, everyone's like, oh, this guy's dominating,
Speaker 1: or I'm like, no, there's ninety nine page Martinez and
Speaker 1: everybody else. As far as I'm going from what i'd
Speaker 1: in my whole life, it's recently.
Speaker 2: Because we're talking about this, is that the most dominant
Speaker 2: like fantasy, like statistical fantasy from a starting picture.
Speaker 1: From a starting picture, I think, fantasy wise, I mean
Speaker 1: from a picture period. I'm sure there'll be people who
Speaker 1: throw the Sandy Kofax moments, but the fantasy wasn't evolved that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. But the modern baseball, modern.
Speaker 1: Modern baseball fantasy wise, yeah, dude, I mean a ninety
Speaker 1: nine Paedro I think is the greatest.
Speaker 2: Twenty three wins in twenty nine games started. He played
Speaker 2: thirty one, started twenty nine games, won twenty three of them.
Speaker 2: With three hundred strikeouts, a sub one whip, a thirteen
Speaker 2: plus K per nine. I find me a pitcher that
Speaker 2: has more ridiculous numbers.
Speaker 1: In the FIP was one point three to nine, the
Speaker 1: K per nine was thirteen, and the walk to nine
Speaker 1: walks for nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at that's that's nuts.
Speaker 1: What's the ratio? The kate to walk ratio, that's the
Speaker 1: one I want to know. In the meantime, here's little
Speaker 1: trivia for you before we get to the heroes and zeros.
Speaker 1: The youngest player to win an MVP award is who?
Speaker 1: Who is the youngest player to ever win MVP? Just
Speaker 1: drop the answer if you think you know what in
Speaker 1: the chat, I'm sure everyone's hitting the Google machine.
Speaker 2: Chris Bryant.
Speaker 1: No it is not Chris Bryant. I'll give you a hint.
Speaker 1: That was in the seventies. It was in the seventies.
Speaker 1: But a player that you should know with a cool name.
Speaker 1: Here you go, all right. Here are the stat heroes
Speaker 1: from last night. Garrett cole Levin k's and seven, Shane
Speaker 1: Bieber complete game one earned run, missed the shutout, Logan
Speaker 1: Webb six innings, no earn eight k's, Luis Garcia seven
Speaker 1: k's and six, Dylan Cis again nine k's five and
Speaker 1: two third, the guy's been money baby, Jose Burrio's unbelievable
Speaker 1: thirteen K'syerman Mercedes three for four with a dinger. You'll
Speaker 1: get a Yeerman watch. Oh we mentioned Freddy Freeman the
Speaker 1: top four for five with a homer, Tarrio Estrada two
Speaker 1: home runs yesterday, Sean Murphy four for five, Luis Robert
Speaker 1: three for four with a homer, led Miss dis Ad
Speaker 1: a homer as well. Lords guriell at a four for four.
Speaker 1: He's in my cell high video this week, coming out
Speaker 1: telling you right now, just he can't sustain this. It's
Speaker 1: been too great for guriel It's gonna go backwards. It's
Speaker 1: just he's not an elite player. He's a good player,
Speaker 1: he's not elite. Sell Horie Palonco two for three with
Speaker 1: a homer, and marcusime And two for six with a homer,
Speaker 1: and Trey Turner two for four with a homer. Let's
Speaker 1: see if anybody's got some oil. Camboid is not the
Speaker 1: correct answer. Neither is Frank Robinson's.
Speaker 2: That would not be in the I mean you said
Speaker 2: a fun name.
Speaker 1: It's a fun name. Frank Robinson is not a fun name.
Speaker 1: That's about like a vanilla. It gets all right, Mike,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Mike, Mitch White. It is not like Mitch Connor,
Speaker 1: like when Mitch Canner. I love that. I love that,
Speaker 1: Mitch Connor villain, Cartman's Cartman's fan so fantastic h five inning,
Speaker 1: six earned Mike Clevenger four earned runs in five. Dallas
Speaker 1: Kaikeo boy oh boy, Dallas Kayle should have just stayed
Speaker 1: at home. I don't know why he came back and try.
Speaker 2: To I can't share the text that Bogman had with
Speaker 2: We had a text chain about Dallas Kaykeele, and I
Speaker 2: can't share it.
Speaker 1: And it's not gro Can you change the the word
Speaker 1: F two flowers and read it to us?
Speaker 2: Uh No, I don't even think the word. I don't
Speaker 2: even think the changing of that's gonna help anything. So
Speaker 2: you can't have to pass.
Speaker 1: I don't have to pass, Joe, Mike Clevenger. We are
Speaker 1: going to see great Mike Clevenger again.
Speaker 2: You think not this season? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, he showed some electric stuff in spring. He
Speaker 2: showed a few games where it's popped off he's just
Speaker 2: he's inconsistent. And I don't think it's this year too,
Speaker 2: just too far, too close removed. I believe from his
Speaker 2: injury that if we're gonna see it, it's just not
Speaker 2: going to be this season because he's got to string
Speaker 2: it off. That's the thing. It's not about one game
Speaker 2: with him. You got to get like that five or
Speaker 2: six old school Mike Clevenger. And I just don't think
Speaker 2: he has that this year.
Speaker 1: What about next year? You think he'd come to Z.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I think it's possible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 2: you see signs of it.
Speaker 1: All right, the answer is here. David Hanson has it.
Speaker 1: Look at him. David Hans has got it. Vita Blue
Speaker 1: Yabad yaba dah who won not only the cy Young
Speaker 1: but the MVP. He was twenty one years old. Not bad,
Speaker 1: not bad there, pretty good for Vida Blue. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get to the next grouping here the loser hitters.
Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo over three three ks, Derek Hall over four
Speaker 1: to three, Ryan Mountcastle five with three. Now we know
Speaker 1: why Mayor's not here today. Now we have oh, okay, okay, there,
Speaker 1: now it all makes sense. Tim Anderson and lloyaman Is
Speaker 1: one for eight with three k's. I'm losing patients with
Speaker 1: lloy only four home run calls last night, correct not good.
Speaker 1: One of them was Joey Bart with the walks.
Speaker 2: I mean that deserves like maybe a ten ten zoos.
Speaker 1: You should get like ten for that one. But so
Speaker 1: the board is the board board is the same as
Speaker 1: yesterday's board. So hopefully today is a better night for that.
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Speaker 1: Tonight's a good night for some more K props. Joe
Speaker 1: Ryan four and a half on DK. Like the over
Speaker 1: there is minus one fifty Joe Musgrove at five and
Speaker 1: a half plus one twenty five on DK. What run?
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's in Colorado, run do it.
Speaker 1: Joe Musgrove over plus five and a half. I'll choose
Speaker 1: you the five and a half with the plus one
Speaker 1: twenty five, Zach Wheeler five and a half on FanDuel
Speaker 1: is minus one twenty against Toronto, and then Christian Javier
Speaker 1: is at six and a half against the Angels without
Speaker 1: Mike Trout in that lineup. I like this even more.
Speaker 1: The juice is one forty but still Welsh. You were
Speaker 1: in on the musk Grove one and you actually found
Speaker 1: a better one than the five and a half.
Speaker 2: I did actually bet MGM, you got it sports books
Speaker 2: four and a half. Get out of here with that stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean he had one one strikeout game. I'm taking that.
Speaker 2: That's probably the number one bet of the day. M.
Speaker 2: You know, lockdown McClanahan is there. Though it's at seven
Speaker 2: and a half against it's against Boston. You can argue
Speaker 2: that you know this might be the game. He doesn't
Speaker 2: do it. But my whole stick is just always play
Speaker 2: McClanahan and you're gonna come out on top of the
Speaker 2: seven and a half. I'm gonna play it. And Trey
Speaker 2: Turner I like this one. Trey Turner total bases today
Speaker 2: if you are digging around on DVP at all, he's
Speaker 2: got a really good track record versus Adam Wayne Right,
Speaker 2: a four hundred record with nine hits and twenty two
Speaker 2: at Batch. You got a couple doubles in there, and
Speaker 2: the total base marker is minus one fifteen. So I'm
Speaker 2: going to take Trey Turner one and a half total
Speaker 2: bases against Wayne Wright one fifteen. So Musgrove, McClanahan and
Speaker 2: Turner all.
Speaker 1: Right tonight over on DK looking at the DFS slate. Look,
Speaker 1: mcclanahan's gonna be very chalk. He's expensive, he's ten k.
Speaker 1: You could save four hundred bucks to go to Musgrove
Speaker 1: in Colorado and tournaments and be very opo and pair
Speaker 1: that with Lucas Giolito or John Gray, who John Gray's
Speaker 1: been on a nice run lately in case the last
Speaker 1: couple of stars, so or you could put Gielito and
Speaker 1: Gray together and then just pay up for offense. That's
Speaker 1: my approach, And I think just mcclan is gonna be
Speaker 1: super chalky. Or the other guy you could put in
Speaker 1: there instead of musk Grove is Christian Xavier. Do a
Speaker 1: couple of different lineups, because nine point three for Xavier,
Speaker 1: nine point six for Muscove. I faded away form mclanahann
Speaker 1: because it's it's so chok it's just it's it's a lot,
Speaker 1: and again I always worry about the win equity because
Speaker 1: that offense is just the Luis Severino nine point three
Speaker 1: over on FanDuel. It's a pretty good safe cash game.
Speaker 1: Guy over on FD Lucas Gilito nine to one, Hobber
Speaker 1: at nine seven. That's kind of where I would go.
Speaker 1: If you want to get a little crazy with Muscove,
Speaker 1: you can, but it's more expensive. You got to get
Speaker 1: into the high tens there and forget McLean Haan's eleven
Speaker 1: on Fandalle's on I'm not being going to mention tonight,
Speaker 1: DK lineup Builder. C J Abrams just two k free square,
Speaker 1: Eric Cosmer two k free square again in Colorado, go
Speaker 1: for it? Why not? Bryson Stott two point eight, c
Speaker 1: J Abrams on Fandle two five four, L Farrow two
Speaker 1: point eight, Bryson Stop two point one, San Diego. Obviously
Speaker 1: the stack I like tonight along with the Yankees. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm going with Aaron Judge again. He just pinched hit yesterday,
Speaker 1: so I didn't really get my Aaron Judge. So I'm
Speaker 1: going today with Aaron Judge because one more and I
Speaker 1: get a set of steak knives, and I also get
Speaker 1: back on the board. Welsh, where are you going with
Speaker 1: your home run call for tonight?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll do the Mayor bit, I'll do the BVP
Speaker 2: highest bat the other day. Homers Jean Carlos Stanton On
Speaker 2: Mike Minor has four career homers in twenty three at
Speaker 2: bats with over three hundred batting average. And I will
Speaker 2: take Stanton to just try to kick start something.
Speaker 1: Kick Andrew bringing a good stat here. Trot has a
Speaker 1: fifty k rate in July? Is that true? Is that true?
Speaker 1: My trout? I don't know, man, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: uh the Angels, man, nothing goes right for the Angels.
Speaker 1: I feel like joeyoa Tani is the only thing they
Speaker 1: can do right. And even that seems wrong because.
Speaker 2: You see the record too. It's some insane I think
Speaker 2: it was like ten and thirty or something. Since Madden
Speaker 2: has been gone, the Angels have gone. It has just been.
Speaker 1: Joe Madden was not the problem. The roster construction has
Speaker 1: been the problem for there for years, and the lack
Speaker 1: of talent coming through that organization has been a problem
Speaker 1: for years, especially in the pitching side. I mean, just
Speaker 1: terrible but yeah, Andrews got it right here. Eighteen k's
Speaker 1: and thirty six at bats. Oh, baby, that ain't good.
Speaker 1: And to Mawa back injury. Oh. I don't want to
Speaker 1: leave on a sour note, so let us instead. Let's
Speaker 1: hope that Aaron Judge hits three home runs today and
Speaker 1: that'll do it for us. But the story of the
Speaker 1: game goes on for the Welsh. I'm Joey P. We'll
Speaker 1: see you next time. Kids ninety nine Pedro Martinez