1 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome in another edition of Crush City Territory. 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: I'm channel the room, joined by Tyler Stafford. And if 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: you are searching for the latest insight as to what's 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: going on with the Astros offseason, if you are itching 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to know which teams they are close to deals with, 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: if you're itching to know who among their trade candidate 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: board they have narrowed down, you came to the wrong place. 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Because I have no idea what's going on. There is 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: very little movement right now going on. I can't say this. 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: They're trying. They are, They are talking to other teams. 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: It's not a situation where they're just sitting back and waiting. 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: I texted a member of the I texted a member 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: of the organization today, Tyler, and I said, can you 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: guys do something? I'm bored. I did not get a reply, 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: So who knows. Maybe they're maybe they're working hard to 16 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: working too hard to reply to me, but still very quiet, 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: still in waiting mode. Nothing has changed since the last 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: time we talked to you guys. Their priorities remain starting pitching, 19 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: it's probably going to be via a trade, and they're 20 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: going to shut down the offices. I think on the 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: twentieth or the twenty first, So if stuff doesn't happen 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: within the next two or three days, you may be 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: waiting until after the new year before the Astros add 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: another member of their team. That's got to be a 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: thrilling news, right, Tyler. 26 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: See y'all next week. Brand Now, Now, that's about it. 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: That's all we got. I also like the video. If 28 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: you're here, click chick on the button. Thank you, it's helpful. Uh, look, 29 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: I in my job. I am also in circle back season, 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: so I appreciate that baseball operates on a similar calendar 31 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: where look, once you can see Christmas around the corner, 32 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: we're not getting stuff done. Email me, email me later. 33 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: There's nothing that you have right now that is so 34 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: urgent that I need to pick up the phone. You 35 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: will still have your number three starter that I can 36 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: trade you to mid tier prospects for after Christmas and 37 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: it'll be a great Boxing Day present. But right now 38 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 2: we're in gift buying season. We've got to make sure 39 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: that we've remembered for all all of the other husbands 40 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: out there. You do have to fill your wife's stocking. 41 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: She's not going to do that one for you. She'll 42 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: fill the kids probably, but you do need to go 43 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 2: find something. So this is your one week reminder everyone 44 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 2: to go get some little trinkets to put in there. 45 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: Pro tip bath bombs always a hit. Can't go wrong 46 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 2: with a bath bomb. Stick that in there, some gum candy, whatever, 47 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: but make sure you get something out there. That's about 48 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: all the advice I have. 49 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: Astros wise, you're bearing the lead because we still do 50 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: have promo code at Crushity Territory Shop dot com. So 51 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: it's Crushity Territory Shop dot com slash promo slash holiday. 52 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: If you need stocking stuffers, if you need last minute 53 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: gift ideas, if you don't want to spend a ton 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: of money, you can use a promo code holiday on 55 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: crush City Territory Shop dot com. That can help you 56 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: with your holiday shopping as well. 57 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: Tyler, Yeah, I assume that if you're if you're going there, 58 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: you're buying so much that it wouldn't fit in a stocking. 59 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: That's why I didn't say that initially. We see the 60 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: orders when they come in, which is fun. Yeah, so 61 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: we see them and we appreciate it. 62 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: Uh. 63 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: Shout out Sherry Sherry. 64 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna shout out She's she's the best. 65 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: We like her, she has been. 66 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: Sherry's been a long time following listener like she. I 67 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: communicate with her pretty regular. She communicates with me some. 68 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: I try to reciprocate on social media a good bit. 69 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Sharry, appreciate Jason Moss, appreciate Debbie Chang as well. 70 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: So not only can you get discounted merchandise on that website, 71 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: you can get me to say your name within the 72 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: first five minutes of this podcast. So a lot of things, 73 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of good things can happen 74 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: on Crush City Territory shop dot com. 75 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: Those are the only astros transactions that we have currently. 76 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's about the same amount of money that 77 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: they're willing to spend as well. Mike Tyler said, if 78 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: you're watching on YouTube, please like the video if you're 79 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: also if you're watching on YouTube, we have some we 80 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: have some fun news. Jeremy, who works at Foul Territory, 81 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: who is one of our bosses, graciously made a three 82 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: minute video to teach me how to go live on 83 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: these things. So once I watched that, and once I 84 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: feel confident enough that I'm not going to embarrass myself, 85 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: uh pushing all the buttons. We will be able to 86 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: do some live shows. So I haven't told Tyler this, 87 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: but I hope we can get to do one. I 88 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: hope we get to do a live show before the 89 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: new year, within the next you know, two weeks. I 90 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: hope we can get do a live show because that'll 91 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: really help in these instances when we really don't have 92 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: much to talk about. 93 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: So you wanna, you want to come over Christmas morning, 94 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: We'll do a live show with the kids here. It'll 95 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: be fun. 96 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna pass on that. I'm sure. I'm sure. 97 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: That seems like a family. That seems like a time 98 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: for family. It doesn't any time. You won't need to intrude. 99 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: Are we not family? In podcasting? Brother in cast. 100 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: Let's let's get to you. Let's let's get to a 101 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: year first. Okay, we're past a year. 102 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, we started in like November last year, way past it. 103 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: Year and a half. 104 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: And for everyone, I feel like most people know this, 105 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: but weirdly, Chandler and I have known each other much 106 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: longer than that. We were both sports editors at our 107 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: respective collegiate newspapers, and I think it was me that 108 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 2: reached out to you. I used to do a thing 109 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: at the battalion for Texas A and M, where you know, 110 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: you have to fill all these pages for the preview 111 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: for a Saturday foot game, and my editor told me, like, 112 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: try to have parts of these that you can just 113 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: do every week so you don't have to think about 114 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: So I had one that was I'm just gonna talk 115 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: to the sports editor of the other team and interview 116 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: them and then that way I kind of know what's 117 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: going on. But also it takes up like half a page, 118 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: which is really nice. So that's how I met Chandler. 119 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: We were like twenty and I'm like, hey, what's LSU 120 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: up to so I can print this in the newspaper. 121 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Johnny Manziel was on. I think because 122 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel coincided with both of our colleague tenors, I 123 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: think Johnny was on both of those teams. I think 124 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: actually I think LSU won both of those games. 125 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: We ja Manziell never beat LSU, but yeah, I was 126 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: the sports editor for his second year. And then the 127 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 2: weird like Kenny Hill, Kyle Allen, Kyler Murray saga the 128 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 2: next year, but yeah, Chandler and I go, wait, so look, 129 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: you're you're invited to Christmas for sure. I need somebody 130 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: to hold a trash bag anyway to pick up all 131 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: the wrapping paper. 132 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good. I'm good on that. Kyler Murray baseball, Yay, 133 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: we mentioned a baseball player on this podcast. 134 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: Las veg Sacramento, A's legend, Kyler Murray. 135 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: Something tells me he still made the right decision. Yeah, 136 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: looking at his bank account, something tells me that picking 137 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: football over baseball was a good trick. 138 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: I have I told you so. My brother in law, 139 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 2: Gage grew up in the same area as Kyler Murray 140 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: in the Dallas area, and he tells this story all 141 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: the time and I love it, so I'm gonna steal it. Sorry. Gage. Basically, 142 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: he would go grow up going to like youth camps 143 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: and stuff with Kyler Murray. And he tells the story 144 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: that even when he was in like six or seventh grade, 145 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: they wouldn't let him play in any of the youth 146 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: group like activities, any of the sports stuff because it's 147 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: like he's so much better than anyone. Like whoever has 148 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray on their team just wins everything. So they 149 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: had like a separate thing of like, all right, you 150 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: can play for fun, but when we're actually like keeping score, 151 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: you have to sit on the sidelines. 152 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Isn't the one rule of youth group, like you can't 153 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: reject anyone? 154 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: Well, he's not rejected. He just that's that's the ultimate praise. Hey, 155 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: you're so good that we don't feel comfortable playing with you. 156 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: It's not fun for any of us. And that's how 157 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: I feel about ping pong. You know, Marty Supreme, don't 158 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: play me in ping Pong. I'll destroy you. 159 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: Have you seen that yet? 160 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: Was a good comes out next week, bake movie fan. 161 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: I do have tickets tonight to see the new Avatar 162 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: and Imax three D, so I'm very excited. And then 163 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: Olivia and I are going to see the SpongeBob movie tomorrow. 164 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: And she has been asking for a week how many 165 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: sleeps until the SpongeBob movie. So we're down to one 166 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 2: going to see SpongeBob tomorrow. So I'll let you know 167 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: how both go. 168 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: Is Avatar the one with the Blue people? 169 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: It is the one with the Blue people. It rules. 170 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: I will I will take no slander for loving Avatar. 171 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: It's wonderful. I'm X three D. It's it's great. It's 172 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: like the only movie made for that. It's it's wonderful. 173 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: Go see it in a theater. It's fun. 174 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: Thank you, Tyler, we have successfully wasted success. Nothing to 175 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: talk about. Hey. 176 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 2: I was looking at the comments from our our last 177 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: episode with UH with Ryan Weiss, and the most recent 178 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: ones are I assume Korean which is fun. So one 179 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: says to John Jesus, I look forward to seeing you 180 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 2: do well there Wise go wise, and the other one 181 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: says our Hanway Eagles Wise, who I already missed so 182 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: much as a fan who chanted your name from the stands. 183 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: I will be cheering you on from Korea for your 184 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: first MLB pitching game next season. I'm grateful and miss 185 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: you UH so thank you to our new Korean listeners 186 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: who have have joined us. He will not be on 187 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: every episode, unfortunately, I. 188 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: Mean we can try. He seemed he seemed very much 189 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: liked it. He liked me. It was the easiest booking 190 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: experience I think I've had doing this. He was very open, 191 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: very easy to UH, very easy to get on. So 192 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: maybe he will be on every time. Who knows if 193 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: the off season keeps going this way, we may have 194 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: no choice but to get him on every time. 195 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: Okay, I do have some things that I've seen on 196 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: the internet. Now seems like a great time to ask 197 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: you about. Did you see Chas McCormick's farewell. 198 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: I did. I'll put it. I'll put the text up 199 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: on the screen for those watching on YouTube. I'll put 200 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: it up on the on the text of Chazz's farewell 201 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: on the screen that it's an Instagram post. 202 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, he didn't text you his fair 203 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,359 Speaker 2: it was from Instagram. 204 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: I'll put the text up from his Instagram post. The 205 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: Instagram post was just him in various stages of playing 206 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: for the Astros, and Chazz said, Houston, you took a 207 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: chance on a kid nine years ago, and it changed 208 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: my life as a person and as a player. Fast 209 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: forward to four Division titles, two American League Penance, and 210 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: one World Series title. I have nothing but love and 211 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: admiration of the organization, my teammates, and the great fans 212 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: of this city. Thank you for the memories. It was 213 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: interesting because, like I saw this post, and ninety nine 214 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: percent of the time when someone puts that out there, 215 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: that means that they have found another destination and so like, 216 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like cool, where did he sign? 217 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: So like, I checked in with a couple of people 218 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: that would know, and they were like, yeah, no, he 219 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: hasn't signed anymore yet. He has, he has some he 220 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: has some pretty substantial interest. From what I understand around 221 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: the league, I heard upwards of nine teams have expressed 222 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: interest in Chazz. Now some not all of those will 223 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: be major league deals. Some of them want to be 224 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: in our eyes, some of them you don't want to 225 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: be non roster. 226 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 2: Why would you say it like that? Why would you say. 227 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: I've heard different I've heard different numbers. I've heard the 228 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: lowest number i've heard is nine. So I'm just gonna 229 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: say nine just to be safe. You know. As far 230 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: as where he ends up, I'm not sure the Yankees 231 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: have wanted him forever, Like I think I've said that before. 232 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: The Yankees have wanted him forever just because the swing 233 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: plays so well at Yankee Stadium with the opposite field 234 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: power he has. But yeah, I think, you know, not 235 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: that not that we needed the finality of Chaz putting 236 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: it out there, but yeah, he was never going. The 237 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: reunion never seemed in the cards. Obviously, when when they 238 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: put him on waivers and he cleared, he had the 239 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: chance to accept an outright assignment and he could have 240 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: gone to uh Triple A and just been he could 241 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: have been on the sugar Land and just been off 242 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: the forty man roster. When he decided not to do 243 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: that pretty much shows that he's he's looking for another 244 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: he's looking for another big league chance and hopefully a 245 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: team gives him that. So that was cool. 246 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: Remember when he made that catch in the World Series. 247 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was there, Really cool it was Remember it 248 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: was something I think we said it at the time 249 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: when he got put on waivers or whatever. Like, I 250 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: know that, I know it didn't end well obviously, I 251 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: know it was a I know his career did not 252 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: end well with the Astros on the field, but like 253 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: he is still without a shadow of a doubt, like 254 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: one of like anyone that works in Astros scouting or 255 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: player development, like Chaz needs to be like a top 256 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: your resume when you're like putting, like when you're touting 257 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: your work to get a guy in the twenty first 258 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: round of the draft from a I think Millersville is 259 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: a D three school. I got it wrong once they're 260 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: either D two or D three school, they're not D one. 261 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: To get to get a guy in the twenty first 262 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: round out of Millersville University and to turn him into 263 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: a six win career player, a guy that's starting playoff 264 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: games for you, that's a player development success story, no 265 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: matter the trajectory of the When you get a big 266 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: leaguer that late in the draft from a school that 267 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: until I met Chaz I had never heard of, that 268 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: is a success story, like full stop one. 269 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: It's so hard to make it to the big leagues, 270 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: like first round picks flame out all the time, and 271 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: to stick with it, and like you said, not only 272 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: to have the player development, but also the scouting to 273 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: find people. And I mean the Astros have just he's 274 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: a perfect example of just a guy that the Astros 275 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: have just built a dynasty of the last ten years 276 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: on of just we're going to find these guys that 277 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: everyone's looking over, and we're going to find what they 278 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: do well and really pour into that and you know, 279 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: kind of mold them in a in a certain way. 280 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I love Chas McCormick. He's I 281 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: hope he gets another chance somewhere. I hope he bounces 282 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: around for several more years. He's you want to take 283 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: a guess at his current career earnings, Say, what do 284 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: you think he's made for his entire career so far? 285 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: It's got to be less than ten I'd probably say 286 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: I'd probably say like eight seven or eight million. 287 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: You're really good at this. He has made just over 288 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: seven million dollars. Yeah, in his career. Good for him. 289 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: Good for him, that's wonderful. 290 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: Him and his and his wife Courtney are expecting expecting 291 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: a baby boy next month, so good for them as well. 292 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: So Chaz will get to be a dad. That's fun. 293 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: Maybe you can give him some tips if we get 294 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: him on the pod at some point. 295 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: Do you think that his name is pronounced Chase and 296 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: we've just been doing it wrong the whole time? No, 297 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: and he's just too shy to tell us. 298 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: I think it's Chas his legal name. What's his legal name, 299 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: Chaz Caine McCormick. 300 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: His legal name is Chaz correct, but not with the z. 301 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: No, not with a Z. I don't know. I the 302 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: Instagram handles weird like I because I know, like obviously 303 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: like Chazzy Fizz is like his is his nick or 304 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: one of his nicknames. So I don't know if like 305 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: when he did it, like he wanted like to put 306 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: his nickname, I don't know, but yes, his that's his 307 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: legal name. 308 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: Okay, good to know that. 309 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: The interesting thing is like it, Chaz ties in well 310 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: to like the Astros current off season situation, especially with 311 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: Jake Myers, because there is some thought in the organization 312 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: and it's it's very true that while they don't well, 313 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: while they aren't expecting Jake Myers to maybe have the 314 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: complete free fall that Chas McCormick endured the last two years, 315 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: they also don't want to make the same mistake. They 316 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: don't want to look back with the same regret that 317 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: they have with Chas McCormick as with Jake Myers, because 318 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, Chaz was in the exact same position Jake 319 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: Myers is in now. Chaz this is in that position 320 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: after twenty twenty three, he had broken out. It was 321 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he had a one thirty oh ps plus 322 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: he had you know, he hit twenty two homers that year, 323 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: and you know there was significant trade interest in him 324 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: and his value had never been higher. And that was 325 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: an off season where you know, the Astros certainly could 326 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: have seen what they could get for him, they decided 327 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: to keep him. It is value tanked and now it 328 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: ended with you know, him going on waivers. There is 329 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: definitely some organizational thought that has been vocalized that they 330 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: don't want that to be the case with Jake. They 331 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: don't want to make the same mistake twice. So they 332 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: want to capitalize on Myers when the value is at 333 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: its peak. And it's why Jake has been consistently you know, 334 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: talked about in trades. It's why, you know, barring something 335 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: unforeseen or barring something really changing going forward, It's why 336 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, he's probably the most likely guy on the 337 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: roster to get traded. Is because they don't want to 338 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: look back and wonder what if? Wonder, like, man, what 339 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: could we have gotten for Jake Myers, just like they 340 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: think about the same thing with Chas McCormick. So it's 341 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: interesting how those two guys their their careers that came 342 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: up together, they kind of grew up in the big 343 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: leagues together. It's interesting how like their fates are kind 344 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: of now the same, and how they don't want the 345 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 1: Astros don't want to have that same faith that they 346 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: have with Chaz. 347 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Chas's value was more tied to the bat 348 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: than Myers. I mean, Myers is even if you can't hit, 349 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 2: he's such a good defender that you know there's a 350 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 2: floor to you know, obviously you got to hit a 351 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: little bit. 352 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: Uh, And Chans is very good man. 353 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 2: The defense is very good defender as well. 354 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, the defensive metrics love I mean the Jake Myers 355 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: is fifteen times better, but the defensive metrics love Chas. 356 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, But I mean all that to say, 357 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: like Chas was a good hitter. His first three years combined, 358 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: he had a one to seventeen ops plus and then 359 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three he was incredible. He's a three 360 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: and a half win player, one hundred and thirty ops plus. Like, 361 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 2: he had a very very good season, a significantly better 362 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 2: season than what Jake Myers just had as well. So yeah, 363 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: I mean it makes sense to not want to lose 364 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 2: out on that value again. But you know, you hope 365 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: that he's just really good on your team. That's always 366 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 2: the hope. You don't want to like trade somebody and 367 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: then go like, well he's not going to be good anymore, 368 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: Like if you're trading him, you you know you'd rather 369 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 2: always just keep the players that you have and then 370 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: be really really good. And so either way we'll see. 371 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: But I mean, yeah, I absolutely understand the interest for 372 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: Jake Myers for sure, and I understand why the Ashers 373 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 2: wouldn't want to go through that twice in a row. 374 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: Speaking of trading good players away and hope that they 375 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: don't do good things elsewhere. 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What should the Astros 405 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: do with Jeremy Pania? Are they have they talked to? 406 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I know I saw your reporting that they're 407 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: not trading in this year, that that that's not anywhere 408 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: in the plans. Obviously that can change. The Ashers are 409 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: twenty games under five hundred at the trade deadline. Jeremy 410 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: Pane is not gonna be on the team anymore. But 411 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: what is their plan and what ideal scenario? What do 412 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: the actuals want to do with Jeremy Payna. 413 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: Well, the first thing they should do they should congratulate 414 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: him on getting engaged. Congratulations to Jeremy, Paanya and Julia Grosso. 415 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: Did you see that post? Did you see the announcement? 416 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: I saw the ring. 417 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, that's why that thing you can 418 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 1: see that thing from outer space? 419 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that that to me was the ring of a 420 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: man who is gonna hit free agency in two years. 421 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, nice, nice job. That thing's worth more money than 422 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: I think I will ever see in my life. After that, 423 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: after they h after they congratulate him on getting engaged, 424 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: I think they need to approach both Jeremy and Scott 425 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: Morris this winter and they need to have some pretty 426 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: serious conversations and make a legitimate effort to resign him, 427 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: not to resign him, to extend him, because I think 428 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: this one is a little more I think it's more 429 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: realistic maybe than some other ones. You know, we when 430 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: we had this conversation about Bregmant, and when we had 431 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: this conversation about Korea and Cole and all the guys 432 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: of the past and from or even Tucker, Like it 433 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: never seemed realistic, Like it was just like, oh, they'll 434 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: they'll make a they'll give it the old college try, 435 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,959 Speaker 1: they'll make a performative offer just to say they did it, 436 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: and then we'll never hear about it again. I don't 437 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: think people really realize, like how close the Astros were 438 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: to extending Jeremy Panya last last season before he switched 439 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: he switched representation to Scott Bors. They were very, very close. 440 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: It was it was, you know, they had exchange numbers. 441 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: They had they had gotten way down the road. And 442 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: this is coming from multiple people that have knowledge of 443 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: what transpired. They got pretty far down the load. So 444 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: that inherently means that Jeremy Paanya is open to listening, 445 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: how much, how much we talk and do you know, 446 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: I don't I've heard a couple of numbers. I don't 447 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: want to say the numbers out loud because I haven't 448 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: confirmed them outright. And upwards of nine sure, upwards of 449 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: a certain amount. Now it gets different when you're negotiating 450 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: with Scott Boris as opposed to pretty much any other 451 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: agent agencies, and look, most agencies and agents are they're 452 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: aligned and that they want the maximum value for their client. 453 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: To get Jeremy Pania to stay in Houston, and to 454 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: do it with Scott Boris as his agent, the Ashers 455 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: are going to have to make this sort of offer 456 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: that they have never made really anyone. Like, I don't 457 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: know what the biggest offer at least I can remember 458 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: that that a Jim Crane led front office ownership organization 459 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: has made to a player was when Carlos Correa was 460 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: a free agent. I think I think, if I remember right, 461 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: they gave him six for two they offered him like 462 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: six for two hundred or six for two ten, something 463 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: around that in that neighborhood. Other than that, like, they 464 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: don't really make these offers that blow you out of 465 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: the water. They're not in the they're not in the 466 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: business of blowing people out of the water. If they 467 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: want to keep Jeremy Panna around, they're going to have 468 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: to do that. They're going to have to, well, Ay, 469 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: Jeremy Payne is going to have to express to Scott 470 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: Boris that he wants to stay here forever. Because that's 471 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: how the Lance mccullors deal got done. That's how the 472 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: Jose Al Twova deal got done. Those were two guys 473 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: that said pretty forthright, I don't want to play anywhere else, 474 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: Scott get it done here, and that's what happened. It 475 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: got done. So this whole narrative that Scott Boris never 476 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: does pre orb or pre free agency is just not 477 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: true because he works for the client at the end 478 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: of the day, and if the client tells him I 479 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: don't want to go anywhere else, I don't want to 480 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: do free agency, that's not for me, They'll get it done. 481 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: Scott's not going to take a cheap deal though, he's 482 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: not going to take a hometown discount by any stretch. 483 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: So really it's up to Jeremy Panya and I don't 484 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: have the exact quote in front of me, so I 485 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: don't want to speak out a turn. But he was 486 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: asked when all this was kind of bubbling up last 487 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: year and after he had switched representation, someone asked him 488 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: like whether it was his stated goal to stay here 489 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: for a while, And while he didn't just come out 490 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: and say yes, he did say, and I'm paraphrasing here, 491 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: this is not a direct quote, he said something to 492 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: the effect of playing for one team, my whole career 493 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: is something that I've thought about, and it's something that 494 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: intrigues me, and it's something that I've seen other people do. 495 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: So all this to say that, like, there's a path here, 496 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: there is a path to get getting it done here 497 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: that maybe didn't exist with Bregman or Korea. I say, 498 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: with Korea, who went on the Team run radio station 499 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: and said you wanted to be an astro for life. 500 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: So but we've got at least evidence now that they 501 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: have talked to Jeremy Pania, that there have been numbers 502 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: that have exchanged hands and that they were close to 503 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: getting this done. Now Switching representation is a different story, 504 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: and it's it changes the calculus of how it goes on. 505 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: But Tyler, I think this I think doing and the 506 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: reason you do it this Winner is like you said, 507 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: he's a free agent after next after next season, he's 508 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: a free agent. The ressident has been set already by 509 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: trading Kyle Tucker. That if this organization feels like it 510 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: cannot retain a homegrown superstar and it feels like it 511 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: needs to supplement its farm system, which I think it 512 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: still will need to do next Winner, you can be 513 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: looking at Jeremy Paine, you know, following in the footsteps 514 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: of Kyle Tucker and the Astros making a trade that 515 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't like. 516 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, has any player ever not said that they want 517 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 2: to play for one team their their whole life when 518 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 2: they're on their their first team, Like, yeah, that's of 519 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: course you say that, and you're currently employed by that team. 520 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think that that means anything. And 521 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 2: I also don't think it's something that you have to 522 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 2: hold against somebody, Like what else are you going to say? Like, yeah, 523 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: if somebody ask you, do you want to stay with 524 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: the Astros forever? Like yeah, of course you have to 525 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 2: say that, I do. I I don't know if you 526 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 2: can pass this along to Scott Boards. I've started thinking 527 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: of his jokes for the free agency, and I think 528 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: we're gonna have to really focus around some joke about 529 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: a hollow Painia. So something about how you know he's 530 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: he's spicy, he's gonna heat up your lineup, and you 531 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: don't want your lineup to have that whole at shortstop, 532 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: that's a hollow Pania. I don't know, something something I 533 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: think that would do well at the winter meetings. 534 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: That is something I can very much envision him. 535 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: Saying, Okay, get that, get that a lot. I'm telling you, 536 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: let me be on this writing staff. I could crush it. Look, 537 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: I think this is not good podcasting, but I think 538 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter this year. Like you, you play this year. 539 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 2: You you hope that he has a phenomenal year. 540 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't. 541 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: I don't see any scenario where the Astros extend him. 542 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: I just you know, I don't. I don't think that's 543 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: gonna happen. The only way that possibly could happen is 544 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: Paenia is older than some players are. You know, he's 545 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: not Korea. He's not hitting free agency at like twenty six. 546 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: Right, He's a college he's a college drafting. 547 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be twenty nine pushing thirty when he 548 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: hits free agency. And so you know, even at that point, 549 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: you're gonna get a seven year deal or something along 550 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: those lines, if you get some great deal somewhere. But 551 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: even then, honestly, like you know, he's not even playing 552 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: shortstop at thirty seven. So you know, I could see 553 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: a scenario where if the Astros look at their team 554 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 2: and say, all right, al Tuvey is gonna be gone 555 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: in five years you've got yourn until Like I could 556 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: see them try to extend him for that, but at 557 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: that point, like Scott Boris isn't gonna go for that 558 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: because you'd rather have the longer contract and more guaranteed money. 559 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: But I mean, to me, that's the only way that 560 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: it would even make sense to broach an extension talk. 561 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I hope that he stays. He's very good. 562 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: I enjoy watching him play for the Astros, and the 563 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: Astros are a better team with him. But I mean, 564 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: I would be shocked to see any sort of extension, 565 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: not even a Scott Boris related thing, Like I'm shocked 566 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: to see any extension that the Astros give out like 567 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: that just doesn't happen. 568 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: I disagree with you on the this winter doesn't matter, 569 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: like I think, if they need to get like if 570 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: it's going to happen, it's going to happen this winter 571 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: because the conversation that well, a next winter there may 572 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: be a work stoppage for half of it. And literally 573 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: Dana Brown or whomever is the general manager, which that's 574 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: another part of this that we'll get to in a 575 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: little bit, whomever is running the Astros is going to 576 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: literally be forbidden from contacting players, so that could encompass 577 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: a good bit of the winter next year as a 578 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: work stoppage. And also next year that's when you get 579 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: the and it's not a lie like your six months 580 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: or your eight months from free agency, Like why would 581 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: you sign a massive deal? Why would you sign an 582 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: extension when you're eight months away from twenty nine other 583 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: teams bidding on you, And those teams including the Dodgers, 584 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: the Yankees, the Jays, whoever is spending big money at 585 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: that point, like you will have more suitors that can 586 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: give you more money, like you, the demand will be higher. 587 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: So like that's what you run into next winner. That's 588 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: why I think this winner, it's if it's going to 589 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: get done, it needs to get done this winter, because 590 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: you eliminate that, you eliminate the oh, you're so close 591 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: to free agents. Even though he is, he's still pretty close. 592 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean he's only a year and a half, two 593 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: years away. But I think getting it done now would 594 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: be prudent. The problem is and another problem, like I 595 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: just tried to bring up a little bit like Dana 596 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: Brown's in the last year of his contract, and there 597 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: has been no no effusive praise from Jim Crane, no 598 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: encouragement that he is the guy going forward now. To 599 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: be fair, Jim Crane hasn't spoken to the media since 600 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: opening day, so we haven't had the opportunity to ask him. 601 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: But the fact that Dana Brown is working as a 602 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: lame duck, as is Joe Espada, the actions kind of 603 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: speak louder than whatever words Jim Crane would say. So 604 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: I guess in that vain tyler like do you let 605 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: a guy that do you let someone like Dana Brown, 606 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: who you don't know if he's going to run your 607 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 1: baseball operations for the for the far long term? Like 608 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: do you let him try to negotiate and give out 609 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: what could be one of the biggest deals in franchise history, 610 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: because that's what it would take to keep Jeremy Pinnya, 611 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: Like you're going to need to go beyond five or 612 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: six years and go beyond one hundred and fifty million dollars, 613 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: which is the most years or money Jim Crane's ever 614 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: given a player, be it an extension or a free 615 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: agent deal. 616 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I get the sense that that's not that 617 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: wouldn't be Dana Brown's job, regardless of what his contract 618 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: is like, I don't think Jim Crane is tasking Dana 619 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: Brown with negotiating of one hundred hundreds of millions of 620 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 2: dollars extension. I think that's straight from Jim Crane. So 621 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: I don't even think it matters too much who the 622 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 2: GM is. I think that's if Jim Crane wants to 623 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: keep him on his team, he'll just ask godbores, how 624 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 2: much does it cost, and then he'll decide, Okay, I 625 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: want to do that, or I'm not, Like, I don't 626 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: think he's like digging into spreadsheets and you know, negotiating. 627 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he's looking at those things, but I 628 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: think at the end of the day, that's a Jim 629 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: Crane decision and it would just be negotiated in that way. 630 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 2: To me, Jim cran seems to operate more of all right, 631 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: you're the general manager for just filling out the team, 632 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: finding these holes or whatever. But if Jim Crane wants 633 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 2: a guy, he's just gonna go get him and pay whatever. 634 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: It's his team. He's just like, oh, yeah, I want 635 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: this guy on my team. I'm gonna go hire him. 636 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: In the same way that you know, like in the 637 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: same way you would at a corporate office, Like you've 638 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: got your managers that are kind of doing the day 639 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 2: to day work, but if you see something that you 640 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: want for your business, you just go and do it 641 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 2: if you're this CEO. So I'm not sure that the 642 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: expiring contract has anything to do with the negotiations, but 643 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: I could see it being an issue of just like 644 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 2: if I'm Dana, I'm like, I'm not even gonna bother 645 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 2: putting this to get like I've I'm not, that's not 646 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 2: for me to do, you know, Like, I'm sure they 647 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: have an idea of what it would cost. I'm sure 648 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: Scott Boards has just set a crazy number. And then 649 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 2: it's a matter of do I want to put the 650 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 2: time and effort in to figure out what the actual 651 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 2: number is going to be and what the astros are 652 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 2: willing to do, or do I want to focus on 653 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: other things? And I think it's probably more the latter. 654 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Dana's Dana's foremost goal obviously has to 655 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: be to get the twenty twenty six team in the 656 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: position where they are prepared to make the sort of 657 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: run that would let Jim Crane or force Jim Crane 658 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: to give him another contract. 659 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, they also tend to do these, Like I mean, 660 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 4: like Jordon's was in the middle of the season, you know, 661 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 4: Like I to me, that is the vibe of like 662 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 4: Jim Crane is watching someone on his TV, you know, 663 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 4: and he's like that guy rules, I need I need 664 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 4: to make sure he stays on my team, and he just. 665 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 2: Calls up and says, like, what does Jordon want? Okay? 666 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 2: Cool that that seems like a good price, you know. 667 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 2: So it may just take a you know, do they 668 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 2: play the Yankees this year? Maybe maybe Pana just has 669 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 2: like six home runs in a series against the Yankees 670 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: and then gets an extension. 671 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: I think where Dana's contract will get to be. An 672 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 1: interesting talking point is, like you kind of mentioned earlier, 673 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: if we get to July. If we get to July 674 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: fifteenth and the deadline is the thirty first and the 675 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: Astros are five to eight games under five hundred and 676 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: have fifteen percent odds of making the playoffs, do you 677 00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: let someone that you don't you aren't sure is the 678 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: unquestioned leader of your baseball operations department going forward? Do 679 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: you let them run that trade deadline? Because that could 680 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: be one of like if you decide to sell. If 681 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: that situation that I just had said arises and you 682 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: get to July fifteenth and you are in a decision, 683 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: You're at a part where like numbers probably tell you 684 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: to sell, and you're gonna have you could make a 685 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 1: pretty big decision of like, if we're not going to 686 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: extend Jeremy Panya get a lot more, we get a 687 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: lot more for him if he has that extra half 688 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: a year of control and possibly a playoff run for 689 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: whatever team we send him to. Do you let the 690 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: GM do? Do you let the lame duck GM run 691 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: that deadline? Like? I think that's the more fascinating question 692 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: with with Dana Brown's contract. 693 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yes, of course, Like you've already hired 694 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 2: him to do this job. You know. Again, Like if 695 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 2: I'm thinking of it from Jim Crane's perspective as the 696 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 2: owner of the Astros, it's like, you are currently my 697 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 2: general manager. My team needs to sell. Your job is 698 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 2: to go do that. It doesn't matter what your contract 699 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 2: looks like six months from now, because again, like. 700 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: But do you want to but do you want a 701 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: guy that do you want a guy that you have 702 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: not committed to for twenty twenty seven, impacting what could 703 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: be the twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight and twenty 704 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: twenty nine astros. 705 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, you need somebody to do it. He's already here. 706 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 2: What are you gonna do instead, like fire somebody and 707 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 2: get somebody a day later to run the trade deadline? 708 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 1: Like you wouldn't get anybody you would. 709 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 2: But that's my point is that's what I'm saying is 710 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 2: Jim Crane's gonna do it anyway, so you might as 711 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 2: well have a guy that's already doing the job and 712 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 2: then you can say yes or no to any of 713 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 2: these trades. But like, yeah, of course he's gonna have 714 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 2: him run that at you know, like especially for GM 715 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 2: because I to me, and I have absolutely no authority 716 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 2: to speak on this, but to me, Jim Crane's relationships 717 00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 2: with general manager's post Luno is more of like, well, 718 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 2: this is my team, and I've hired you to do 719 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 2: this job, and I'm telling you to do it. And 720 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 2: if I tell you to do a different way, start 721 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 2: doing that or I'll find somebody else. Because I think 722 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 2: I think he sees the general managers is a lot 723 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 2: more interchangeable than you know players on the field or 724 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: even even managers, which is much more based on the 725 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 2: outcomes of the games. 726 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: I will say this, you said in the post Luno era, 727 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: there's only been two There only been two GMS in 728 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: the post Luno era. I can say this on authority. 729 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: Jim's relationship with Dana Brown is a lot better than 730 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: Jim's relationship was with James Click. Those two, just James 731 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: Click and Crane had philosophical differences of just kind of 732 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 1: how they went about business, of how they went about 733 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: doing things. They were just philosophically just not on the 734 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: same page. It was philosophical different. For instance, I think 735 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: Dana is more aligned. I think Dana and Jim are 736 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: more aligned in that aspect of like they think about 737 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: things the same way. They're a little more Dana's a 738 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: little more aggressive, Dane is a little more bold, He's 739 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: a little more convicted. They get along a lot better. 740 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, like he's going 741 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: into this year as a lame duck, so obviously it 742 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: hasn't gone well enough to warrant any sort of extension 743 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: longer than that. One other thing, speaking of Jeremy Panya, 744 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: he played in the WBC a few years ago. I know, 745 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that have very have very 746 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: interesting opinions about the WBC. My opinion is that they 747 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: should all. 748 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 2: Play the rules. Is upset about this. 749 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: Like the people that watched Joseelle two vagas hit in 750 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: the film. Yeah, but Luis Garcia throwing ninety seven on 751 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: March fifteenth or whatever, you were just. 752 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,240 Speaker 2: As likely to get her in a spring training game 753 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 2: as you are a WBC game, or running to home 754 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 2: in a game in the middle of September and you 755 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 2: step on home plate. Funny, Like, there's nothing about the 756 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 2: World Baseball Classic that is inherently more dangerous than doing 757 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 2: anything else. And at the end of the day, these 758 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 2: are humans that are playing a sport and if they 759 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 2: get a chance to be in a spectacle of the 760 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 2: sport for their home country, do it. It's awesome. Like 761 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 2: they're not like made of glass, you know, like injuries happen, 762 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 2: but that's what's gonna happen. Like you want these guys 763 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 2: to enjoy playing baseball and to compete. 764 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: Do it. 765 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 2: It's fun. 766 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: Now, with that being said, I think this will be 767 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: music to these other people's ears. I do not think 768 00:41:54,840 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: you will see as high of a participation number at 769 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: the astros as you did in the last WBC. Carls 770 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 1: Beltron said at the Winter Meetings that Carlos Korea will 771 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: play for Team Puerto Rico. He's gonna play third base. 772 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: Jiner Diaz, I believe will play for the Dominican Republic. 773 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 1: I think that's out there. I think there was one other. 774 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: Jose Al Tuve is in a weird kind of they 775 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: are claiming, or at least Joe Aspota is claiming that 776 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: Josel Tuve has not made a decision yet. If you 777 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: talk to bench coach Omar Lopez, who is the manager 778 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: of Team Venezuela, Altuve wants to play. It's a situation 779 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 1: where he had that procedure on his foot, and there's 780 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: some medical hurdles, some clearance hurdles that the WBC makes 781 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: all these guys go through so that they can play, 782 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: and I think it's a whole thing of Altuve hasn't 783 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: technically been cleared yet to be put on their roster 784 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: to play. So listening to Omar at the Winter Meetings, 785 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: it sounds like if Jose Al Tuove is cleared and 786 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: if he's ready to go, he's gonna play for Team Venezuela. 787 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: Omar already said he's gonna hit him third and playing 788 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: at second base. He's already got in his head the 789 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: lineup of what he wants. But I would not expect 790 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: much beyond that. Team USA's pitching staff has basically been 791 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:19,760 Speaker 1: revealed already. It's it's acts. It does not include Hunter Brown, 792 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 1: who I know that Team USA had interest in. That 793 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 1: doesn't make again. Maybe they could announce tomorrow that Hunters 794 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: agreed to be on the team, but they've got a 795 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: lot of starters, and I don't know that they have 796 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: room left, so you know they had I knew Christian 797 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: Xavier pitched for the Dominic in a couple of years 798 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: at the last WBC. I don't think that's gonna happen. 799 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: I don't think Brian A. Brady is going to pitch 800 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: for the d R. I think you're going to see 801 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: fewer guys participate that You're gonna see fewer players participate. 802 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 2: Hater, Is he gonna play? 803 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: I doubt it. Well, David Bednar is gonna David Bednar 804 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: committed to the David Bednar committed to Team USA, so 805 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: technically he could be their closer. I doubt Hater, with 806 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: the with how the shoulder thing happened, he's in like 807 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: I doubt it, but he did. Did he play in 808 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: the last WBC? I think he did. But to your 809 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: point though, like the fact that dyke In Park is 810 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: hosting the first round and then some quarterfinals. Jim Crane's 811 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: a big fan of the WBC. He's he likes it 812 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 1: a lot. They did not get the WBC for no reason, 813 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,760 Speaker 1: like I know. Obviously it's going to get them some revenue. 814 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,720 Speaker 1: It's gonna get them some money. 815 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 2: Have Venezuela correct, No. 816 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: They have Mexico there. The pool is Mexico, the US, 817 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: Great Britain, I think Italy, and there's another team I forgot. 818 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 2: But then they got to keep parades. They can't trade 819 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 2: him until after well I don't know hamshromp. 820 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: I think they let him play with his hamstrimper. But 821 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: they also so they're going to host the pool, play 822 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: with the pool, and then they're to host a quarterfinal too. 823 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: So there's a chance like the DR or Puerto Rico 824 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: or one of those teams advances to the quarterfinal, it's 825 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: going to be a dyke In Park if the d 826 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: R or if Puerto Rico gets into one of those 827 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,479 Speaker 1: quarter finals of dyke In Parky, that place is going 828 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: to be a madhouse. 829 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 2: Just the Mexico game is gonna be. 830 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: The Mexico games are gonna be great too. But like 831 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 1: if the d R or Puerto Rico come to dyke 832 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: In Park to play in the WBC, that place is 833 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: going to be lit. 834 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 2: And I believe a roled As Chapman is on the 835 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 2: Great Britain team. 836 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, that's not gonna cube is not 837 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: gonna happen. I will like again, this is not a 838 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: plug for I guess it is a plug for the day. 839 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: It is plug. It's gonna be awesome if you are 840 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: on the fence about it, or if you are someone 841 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: that is kind of unsure of like why this matters 842 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: so much? Like try to get a ticket to go 843 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: to a WBC game in Houston, Like it is unlike 844 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: anything you will ever go to or experience in a 845 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: base It's unli any baseball game you will ever experience. 846 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: It is incredible. I highly recommend if you can get 847 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: your hands on tickets, even for the pool play, even 848 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: for like a US game or when Team Mexico plays 849 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: in the pool, get one of those and then if 850 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: you can get your hands on a quarterfinal ticket, especially 851 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 1: if the DR or Puerto Rico is involved. It is 852 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: a sight to see and would highly recommend. I don't 853 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 1: know that it's going to change your viewpoint if you're 854 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:30,240 Speaker 1: anti WBC. We're all, we can all have whatever viewpoints 855 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 1: we want. But I just think I think it would 856 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: really really open some people's eyes to go just be 857 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: in the stadium for those to happen. It is a spectacle. 858 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: Have you been to one, Tyler? 859 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm going to pretend to need a credential 860 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 2: for the WBC this year, and so we'll do a 861 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 2: live podcast. Now that you know how to do it, 862 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure, well I need it from one of those games. 863 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: I need to watch the video though, I don't know 864 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: if I really know how to do it. But once 865 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: I do that, we will find a way to go 866 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: live and make this a more interactive pod. At times, 867 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: you guys can ask us questions. That'll be fun. Hopefully 868 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: the next time we record, something will have happened, or 869 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: hopefully I will have watched this video and know how 870 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 1: to go live, and we can go live and you 871 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: can ask me questions and you can ask us questions 872 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 1: about why nothing has happened, and we can give you 873 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,439 Speaker 1: the same answers that we just gave you. 874 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,280 Speaker 2: About Avatar and SpongeBob. So everybody get excited. 875 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Until then, you can follow me on 876 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: x at Chandler Underscore Room. You can follow Tyler at 877 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: Tyler C. Stafford. Please rate and review us on Apple. 878 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,720 Speaker 1: Please like the video on YouTube. If you watched on YouTube, 879 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 1: like and subscribe to the YouTube channels so you can 880 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: get notified anytime we post new pods. We'll have another one, 881 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: I believe on Sunday working on a guest. If that's unsuccessful, 882 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna cram on this video and try to 883 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: figure out how to go live and we'll do a 884 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: live show. We will let you guys know way in 885 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: advance before we go live, just so you guys can 886 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: either get in the queue, get chats, get some questions ready, whatever, 887 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: But we'll let you know in advance before we go 888 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,879 Speaker 1: live when we begin that endeavor. But until then, thank 889 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: you for listening and we will talk to you soon. 890 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 5: When I was an astro, Spota took me into the 891 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 5: dugout to see SoC Paradis. 892 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 2: Bye.