WEBVTT - All Access: Nichols on improving in offseason

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<v Speaker 1>football For the next hour, walkome in everybody Johnny Ac

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<v Speaker 1>along with Tom Fair from news radio seven eighty and

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<v Speaker 1>one oh five point nine FM w BBM. Jim Miller

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<v Speaker 1>will be along as well and cough it up. Shortly,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be joined by Well now he's out of his

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<v Speaker 1>rookie year, Big Tom Balam Nichols, the defensive lineman for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears fifth round draft pick last year, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk to him about his season and what he's looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to. He's out in an NFL event and parts unknown,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll be talking to him. But we're just with

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<v Speaker 1>you on Friday. But short turnaround. Not a lot transpired

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<v Speaker 1>since Friday obviously when we met and talk with Bobby Massey,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's always something going on in Today was the

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<v Speaker 1>first day in the NFL, you can tag players. So

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<v Speaker 1>nobody that I know of yet has been tagged any

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<v Speaker 1>of the tags, but there's certainly a lot of names

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<v Speaker 1>out there and a lot of other movement around the league. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the franchise tag, it's it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>fragile thing. Sometimes when you're franchising guys and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a positive influence inside the locker room, they're

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<v Speaker 1>disappointed that they're getting franchise or franchise because they want

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<v Speaker 1>the long term, big money, guaranteed contract. So it turned

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<v Speaker 1>out weird here for al Sean Jeffrey and that whole process.

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<v Speaker 1>So I no team has the perfect franchise tag scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at what happened in the Pittsburgh Steelers with

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<v Speaker 1>Levon Bell, So you know, that's just part of the

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<v Speaker 1>growing process of how you develop a team, how you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to spend your money, and where do you think

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<v Speaker 1>you want to secure a position or a player the most.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know a couple of guys that people have mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly in the secondary because it is hard to find

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<v Speaker 1>a really good nickel defensive back. So would the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>be interested in doing that with Bryce Camahan. You also

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<v Speaker 1>have Adrian Amos at the safety position. Things will discuss.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have Jim Miller with US now and

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<v Speaker 1>Big Jim from Serious x MNFL Radio, Good Evening. What's

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<v Speaker 1>what's made news today? Well, Antonio Brown, of course, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally you know you got should cry your way out

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<v Speaker 1>of town. Now. That's that's what happens in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, geez, it's as hard to believe. There's just

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<v Speaker 1>so much drama. I was a part of that organization

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<v Speaker 1>and never never once experienced They've never been shy about

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<v Speaker 1>cutting the corda on players, whether it was Rod Woodson,

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<v Speaker 1>Cornel Lake, There's been some great players, Kevin Green have

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<v Speaker 1>moved on from there, and it sounds like finally they've

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<v Speaker 1>they've had enough of Antonio Brown and we'll try to

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<v Speaker 1>we'll try to seek a trade for him. You just

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<v Speaker 1>wonder how much compensation they're going to get for him, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I saw headlines today that there's people

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<v Speaker 1>are saying that he's not worth the first rounder, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's got ability, but it's the baggage I think is

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<v Speaker 1>making him decline in the terms of his value. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just bizarre. Tom I mean what that guy has done

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<v Speaker 1>literally over the last six months. I mean the issue

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<v Speaker 1>down in Floridas, him throwing furniture off a balcony. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's still in court in legal proceedings. Then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the speeding issue. Then he goes a wall on his team.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to mention the Facebook live posts that he had

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago, but I mean, minim, just

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<v Speaker 1>the guy flat out walked out on his team. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>even Mike Tomlin just said enough is enough. That you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his agent calls, Drew Rosenhous calls the day of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tomlin's like, nah, that's not how it works here.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't just not show up all week and then

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<v Speaker 1>expect to play in the game. And then even today

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<v Speaker 1>the bizarre post he had on Instagram. It's just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I mean, what team wants to take on

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<v Speaker 1>that baggage. To me, his value has gone down because

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<v Speaker 1>he wants a new contract that's completely guaranteed. The team's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to give up a lot. It's definitely not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be first round compensation. I think it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a late round draft. It's kind of you know, Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of weird. What when Dallas Cowboys went and

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<v Speaker 1>traded for Amari Cooper and what he did for the

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<v Speaker 1>receiver position there in a short period of time. I

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<v Speaker 1>do believe that's the influence of that that they think

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Brown is going to have on whatever team he

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<v Speaker 1>goes to for the receiver. For the receiver group, you

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<v Speaker 1>better have a strong personality at quarterback. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Amari Cooper is kind of leaving a fresh thought in

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<v Speaker 1>people's minds about what a receiver can come in to

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<v Speaker 1>do a help a quarterback. Yeah, definitely think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to be a veteran quarterback that he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be dealing with. I mean, because Antonio Brown would

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely walk over, walk all over a young quarterback that

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<v Speaker 1>really probably doesn't have the strong fortitude to really stand

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<v Speaker 1>up to him, is what I think. And you better

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<v Speaker 1>have a veteran coach then too. I think this wave

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<v Speaker 1>of new coaches has less tolerance for that me kind

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<v Speaker 1>of activity. And I'm still shocked that it occurs. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy came from humble beginnings and worked his way

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<v Speaker 1>into start him I get it, but wow, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>total twist in his person ality and his way in

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<v Speaker 1>his approach to this whole thing. Yeah, well that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I think. I mean, that's what this shocks me about

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers. When you got le beyond Bell said, now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know his I can understand, it's business right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a franchise tag. He had the choice not to show up,

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<v Speaker 1>and he elected to go that route. But Steelers have

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<v Speaker 1>always been about team, team, team, you know, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, you know, the fans, it's just the heartbeat

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<v Speaker 1>of the city and everybody has really rallied around that

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<v Speaker 1>team and that's what it's always stood for. And then

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of just a typical of of how

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers react. And I think, you know, Steelers fans are

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<v Speaker 1>just like, yeah, just get rid of them. We're ready

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<v Speaker 1>to move on. We don't we don't need him to win,

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<v Speaker 1>and they certainly didn't need him the last week of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, as they were able to still win that

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<v Speaker 1>game without him, even though he went a wall gave

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<v Speaker 1>up on his teammates. Jeff Jonny Actim Fair, Jim Miller

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<v Speaker 1>with you here on Bears all the Access we brought

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<v Speaker 1>to you by IGS Energy Here on Chicago Sports Radio

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<v Speaker 1>six seventy to score. Jim, what are you what are

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<v Speaker 1>you hearing on your end of the of the fence

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the Bears. Are people asking about here

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<v Speaker 1>in this office early offseason? Well, I think for like

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<v Speaker 1>anything here, you know, we talked to Bobby Massey last week.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, will they free up when I heard here

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<v Speaker 1>in Thom's conversation about Bryce and Callahan, who I think

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<v Speaker 1>is a really good player. He really has performed well

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<v Speaker 1>as a Chicago Bear. But then you look at how

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff McMahon is filled in late in the year. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a really good draft in terms of safeties and corners. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>so you just wonder how much, you know what the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears elect to match the offers that are out there,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's for Adrian Amos or Bryce Callahan. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of safeties were scooped up early last off season. That

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<v Speaker 1>was probably the position that was probably the hottest position

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<v Speaker 1>that was scooped up the fastest in free agency. And

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<v Speaker 1>again I think with market forces like good safeties coming

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<v Speaker 1>out in this year's draft, you know, if those guys

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<v Speaker 1>are off, you know, off the boards, and the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to pay that highest dollary if it gets

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<v Speaker 1>too steep, they'll have plenty of options come draft time

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<v Speaker 1>is what I think? That's Jim Miller, Blond Nichols or

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears. Would you want us coming back? After this break?

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<v Speaker 1>On Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the Score to escape

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<v Speaker 1>the cold and head to the Reu Palace, Coasta Majaris

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<v Speaker 1>and Kancoon with your favorite Bears players in Putting Prince

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<v Speaker 1>and Mulcamara, Roquan Smith and Bilal Nichols, plus Inside the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears host Lauren Screeten and Anthony Adams visit Apple Vacations

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<v Speaker 1>to be joined by Bilal Nichols here on Bears All

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<v Speaker 1>Access were brought to you by Igs Energy, Jeff Jony Actom. There,

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Miller, you're looking forward to that Mexico trip my brother?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, definitely, definitely excited about it. Can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>get there. Yeah, get some warmth going on? What are

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<v Speaker 1>you up to these days? Man? Yet? Got some time

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<v Speaker 1>finally to yourself a little bit because last year, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>going from Delaware to the Combine and getting yourself ready

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<v Speaker 1>for an NFL draft, it was all about getting your

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<v Speaker 1>body right, meeting with teams, and there's really no break.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you go right into rookie mini camp. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is the plight of young young players. They don't really

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<v Speaker 1>have time to address, you know, getting themselves stronger in

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<v Speaker 1>the office season because it really wasn't one. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely different. Uh, you know this this year, I kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, had some time to take off refresh my

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<v Speaker 1>body and my mind and everything like that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>now pretty much I'm just working out, you know, pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much every day and then I give myself a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days off to regenerating my body. But it's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely completely different than last year. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>last year it was it was a lot of my plate,

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of moving around to do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of working out. So you know, it's good. It's good

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<v Speaker 1>to find the experience the NFL all season. Boy, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so much different than last year. Because I was reading

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<v Speaker 1>the combined results in the little story and that had

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<v Speaker 1>a thing called prospect grade and it said blow Nichols

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<v Speaker 1>five point three four and then it said NFL backup

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<v Speaker 1>or special teamer. A lot has changed. How good does

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<v Speaker 1>that feel? Just to give your sense of what you

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<v Speaker 1>were able to accomplish in your first year and what

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to accomplish in the future. US. It was good,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, it's it's definitely something that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I used this motivation and stood to this day. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that few of me. Um, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know what I was capable of. You know, the coaching

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<v Speaker 1>staff helped me out tremendously when I got to Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>to help me reach my reach my potential. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm not even nowhere close to where I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be, which is which is awesome. You know. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's just good saying the hard work that I

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<v Speaker 1>put in pay off. Well. Blaal Jim Miller here and

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations on a great year the three sacks. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just remember when you talked about the style of defense

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<v Speaker 1>at Delaware where you know, really it wasn't an attacking

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<v Speaker 1>style and more like what you were asked to do

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<v Speaker 1>as it's just Chicago bearing. How quickly did did you

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<v Speaker 1>get that aggressive nature and the techniques that you were

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<v Speaker 1>taught by the Bears defensive coaches and how they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>you just more attacking. How long did it take to

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<v Speaker 1>settle in where you got comfortable with it? Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>was comfortable with it, you know after my first few days. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I always I always was pretty much used

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<v Speaker 1>to playing I'm more of an attack style type of defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Just happened when my coaches staff made to change my

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<v Speaker 1>senior year in college. That was just the defense that

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<v Speaker 1>they that they brought in and that they asked me

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<v Speaker 1>to play. So you know, I had to really like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of adjust my game. But I was so used

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<v Speaker 1>to playing in an aggressive type of defense like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>playing it now, so you know, it was pretty natural

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<v Speaker 1>for me to go right back to it. Blow Nichols

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<v Speaker 1>our guest here on Bears All Access with Jeff Jonning, Act,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Thayer, and Jim Miller on Chicago Sports Radio six

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<v Speaker 1>seventy The score below. You're getting your first taste of

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<v Speaker 1>a coaching change in the NFL. Not your head coach, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but with a new defensive coordinate, VIC Fan Joe Off

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<v Speaker 1>to Denver to run that program and Chuck Bugatto coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>But you did keep Jay Rodgers here, your defensive line coach.

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<v Speaker 1>How impactful is that to you to be with him

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<v Speaker 1>for another year? And have you had any conversations with

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<v Speaker 1>coach Bugatto yet? Yeah, it's awesome. You know that coach

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<v Speaker 1>Jenny is still here. You know, he's he's helping me

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<v Speaker 1>out tremendously. I a lout of a credit to him

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<v Speaker 1>and the bets on you know, my progress this year

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<v Speaker 1>and the things I was able to do. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that always kept things straight up with me. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he would tell me what I need to work on

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<v Speaker 1>and tell me what I did think he's good and

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what I didn't bad. And you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>love with respect there where. I really appreciate him and

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<v Speaker 1>the coach and you know, he's one of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>he prepares just like he's a he's a player or

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<v Speaker 1>even better, you know, he's he's all in every weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he comes in and he works hard just

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<v Speaker 1>just like we do. So you know, I'm very grateful

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<v Speaker 1>to still have him here. And you know he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>my d line coach to it. He still continues to

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<v Speaker 1>tell me things that I need to work on, which

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<v Speaker 1>is which is which I appreciate. Hey, I'm sorry, Blo,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, No, I was just gonna say that I

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<v Speaker 1>did talk to coach Bagano. He reached out. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we changed some text messages. You know, it's good to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from me, and I just can't wait to get

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<v Speaker 1>started with it. You know, it seems the better you

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<v Speaker 1>learn the defensive systems, the faster you play. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you start learning the NFL the complex offensive systems. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you do start filtering a little bit new system. What

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<v Speaker 1>what was it more complicated for? Are you learning the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive system so you could play faster or being influenced

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<v Speaker 1>by the complex NFL offensive systems? That's that's a great question. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say learning the defensive system. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of got to learn that first to really

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<v Speaker 1>get your seat wet, get yourself started. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the most important thing learning and skinny a defense,

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<v Speaker 1>how your coaches want want you to play in and

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<v Speaker 1>you know what you're good at, what you can do

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<v Speaker 1>to contribute to your team. Once you fully understand that

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<v Speaker 1>and you understand like what type of mindset the defenses,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's you know, more aggressive or more conservative, you

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<v Speaker 1>can really even get to play faster and just let

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<v Speaker 1>the game come to you. And then uh, naturally or

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<v Speaker 1>as a time goes on, you'll start to pick up on,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the things that the offense runs or tendency

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<v Speaker 1>said they like to have that. That's kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to me drop my rookie years is the season

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<v Speaker 1>went on, I started to notice certain things and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just that made me play faster with noticing things with

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<v Speaker 1>the offense, like you know formations, would they like to

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<v Speaker 1>run out of SA formations? Where were the cop plays

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<v Speaker 1>in these formations and stuff like that. Well, getting better

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<v Speaker 1>in the system that you just mentioned about. What what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think here? If you talk to Chuck mcganna,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think you need to work on? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it initial witness quickness? I love your hustle man, You're

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<v Speaker 1>always hustling to the football, but you know, things like

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<v Speaker 1>playing too high? Is it your techniques? What are things

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you want to own it here on this offseason. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things I've been really really focused on

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<v Speaker 1>it is just my pad level. You know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>tiling this year we're going on. You know I had

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<v Speaker 1>when I played with great pad level, I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was a very great player and it was Kyle's where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I could have played with better pad level

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<v Speaker 1>and it would have made be a better player. Well

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<v Speaker 1>explained that to the listeners. So what do you what

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<v Speaker 1>do you mean by by pad level when you're going

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<v Speaker 1>against an offensive linement, what you know, talk about where

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<v Speaker 1>it needs to be where you like, you know plan

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<v Speaker 1>was the most important thing for a defensive plan would

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<v Speaker 1>just simply being lower than the man that you're going against.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, with with with us being bigger guys, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's more natural for you to stand up

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<v Speaker 1>and take on blocks instead of you know, getting low

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<v Speaker 1>bity your knees and getting under your man, getting under

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<v Speaker 1>his pad. So you know, for for bigger and taller guys,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of more natural for you to stand up where.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in the in the NFL, if you're standing up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're getting double team blocks or you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting blocked block one person, you're gonna get knocked off

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<v Speaker 1>the ball a little bit. So you know, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about that pad level, locking out, keeping that leverage. That way,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whether it's a double team or one on

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<v Speaker 1>one block, you're not getting moved at all, You're not

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<v Speaker 1>getting pushed, you're not getting up in the ground. Hey block.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a little bit about the fun side of football.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you experience anything like postgame celebrations when you were

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<v Speaker 1>in college and do you like the postgame celebrations and

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<v Speaker 1>just the looseness that you get to have with this

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<v Speaker 1>group of guys inside this locker room or something that's

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<v Speaker 1>new to us and maybe as well as to you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we uh, it was definitely new to me

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<v Speaker 1>this year because you know, we we were able to

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<v Speaker 1>have a twelve worst season, which which was wonderful. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at the every game it was like a celebration.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, you know, Club Doug was really the

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<v Speaker 1>thing going on. We're in college, but we would celebrate,

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<v Speaker 1>but never to that extent, you know, only we would

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<v Speaker 1>be like a top ranked team in a country or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. But you know, every week with us,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like whenever we won, it was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get back to the locker room so we could party. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully that I'll continue in twenty nineteen. Man, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>before we let you go, you're a fifth round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Bears are not picking in the first or second round

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<v Speaker 1>this year because of the deals that they made Kalil

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<v Speaker 1>Mac included. There is a different mindset about guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are drafted on the third day in the NFL. You're

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<v Speaker 1>one of them? Is that almost a in this case

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't have those top picks a positive because

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting a player that has a lot to prove

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<v Speaker 1>and they put chips on their shoulders. Yeah, I took it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly how I took it. You know, as a person,

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<v Speaker 1>I can come in and just soak up all the

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<v Speaker 1>information I wanted and just prove my work. I felt like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was one of the better players, and

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<v Speaker 1>just just going on day three was just extra motivations

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<v Speaker 1>for me. So you know, you know, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>anxious to see what we do in those areas, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just to see how the new guys coming next year

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<v Speaker 1>and what type of chip day I have on their show. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be hungry, that's for sure. All right, But we'll

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<v Speaker 1>let you go. We appreciate taking the time and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk together here on the offseason. Good luck with everything, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, appreciate you guys. Have Bell Nichols our guest

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Jony Actom pair Jim Miller really enjoyable All Nichols.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the very mature player, very mature guy in

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<v Speaker 1>that locker room, coming from that smaller program at Delaware.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, Jim, you pointed it out in time, you

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<v Speaker 1>saw it. He had all the tools and the ship.

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<v Speaker 1>He just played in a different style over there in college,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he was a good style for him

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<v Speaker 1>here with a bear, you know. I, Jeff, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>you and I were standing out of practice the first

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<v Speaker 1>day at one on ones, and the first day at

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<v Speaker 1>one on one he went over the center and they said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to develop into a nose guard. Maybe put

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<v Speaker 1>some weight on him, and that's the position of that.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll try to get his foot wet first. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I think they started understanding they had he had better

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<v Speaker 1>athleticism traits to be with the ability to move up

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<v Speaker 1>and down the line of scrimmage. So he wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>one position player. He wasn't like an Eddie Goldman who

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<v Speaker 1>could be a nose guard in a thirty four defense

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<v Speaker 1>or in this defense. Bill Nichols could play defensive end

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<v Speaker 1>in anywhere, and so I think that was the nice

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<v Speaker 1>thing about him. Jay Rodgers defensive line coach, he has

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<v Speaker 1>a really good working relationship with a Kiem Hicks, and

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<v Speaker 1>it pays off that critical right. Yes, a Keem had

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<v Speaker 1>his back all year, showed him what it takes in

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room, on the field, on the practice field, Jimmy,

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<v Speaker 1>he took him under his arm, man, he really did.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought that was a veteran leadership move for Balah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you know, when you tell about somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to emulate your game after. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no quit in a Keen Hicks. The guy fights to

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<v Speaker 1>the end. And that's what I noticed about Balal Nichols.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy's got a ton of hustle. Man. That guy

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<v Speaker 1>really fights to the football, doesn't give up on a play.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought his initial quickness definitely got better as the

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<v Speaker 1>season went along and he started to be impactful and really,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just make those explosive plays where he's kindetrating

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<v Speaker 1>in the backfield ultimately gets three sacks, and I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as for a later round pick, like he said,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially guys that contributed. I mean, I think pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much all the Bears young draft picks, other than the

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<v Speaker 1>young linebacker Eway, you know, really having an impact. His

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<v Speaker 1>was more on special teams, but all of them I

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<v Speaker 1>think contributed quite well. But you know, again, I think

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<v Speaker 1>for a mature team and following veterans, I mean, they've

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<v Speaker 1>got a good group to learn from. You know, a

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<v Speaker 1>guy's like a key that they are great leaders that

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<v Speaker 1>really help out the young players. So you can see

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<v Speaker 1>they've been soaking up everything that they could long and

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to soak up what Kalel Max says and

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<v Speaker 1>does too. Now from the day the offseason program begins,

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<v Speaker 1>unlike a year ago, you get them off through training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we saw his impact at practice. I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>encouraged to see and excited to see what it is

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<v Speaker 1>from day one of twenty nineteen. What do you consider

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<v Speaker 1>day one of twenty nineteen first team meeting. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's the interesting thing about it is because of how

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<v Speaker 1>many uncertainties there were going on that first team meeting

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<v Speaker 1>last year, and Allen Robinson has talked about it in

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<v Speaker 1>the past how they felt that they were setting the

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<v Speaker 1>right motion from that first meeting and things continue to

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<v Speaker 1>stay in motion. Now. Man, you finish a season, you're healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a couple, you know, a couple of guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are gonna have to work on stuff. But everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else is in a position, in a positive position where

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be in the initial stages of development,

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<v Speaker 1>not making you know, not trying to get guys healthy

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<v Speaker 1>and develop at the same time. Yeah, guys like Allen Robinson,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Long, Adam Shaheen, Danny Javathan, Leonard Floyd, these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are all healthy, Jim, They're ready to hit the ground running.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see any real serious injuries to overcome from

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<v Speaker 1>this football team right now. No, there's gonna be that

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<v Speaker 1>much further ahead, you know, just with the install what

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<v Speaker 1>they're want. It's granted defensively, it's gonna take you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously the mission statement of Chuck Pagano, but we know

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<v Speaker 1>the system that is in place there, what they're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll have some different tags and some things that he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tweak and how he wants things done, and again

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<v Speaker 1>he's a different play caller, but the talents there, and

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck's called defense a long time in the NFL. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't expect any drop off from that standpoint. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just think just offensively alone, they're gonna be much further

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<v Speaker 1>along just what they're going to be able to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I know Coach Nagy talked about football one

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<v Speaker 1>oh one. Now it's going to the higher levels, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak, in terms of their education and what they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be asked to do. And I just think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be at such an accelerate the pace

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<v Speaker 1>now knowing what the what the coach expects from them offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they're just going to continue to grow improve,

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<v Speaker 1>young players that are going to be exciting to watch,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they're best footballs ahead of them. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a first phone call the night. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>it numbers three, one, two sixty four, sixty seven, sixty

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<v Speaker 1>seven out to Brian and Edison Park and evening. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Bears All Access. Every guys. I'm enjoying the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been. I'm sixty five and been a Bears fan

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<v Speaker 1>since I was eight. Well, you sound like you're twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not sixty five. There's no way, Brian, Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just going on going on thirty five. Anyway. Bryce

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<v Speaker 1>Callahan is a player who I've enjoyed watching immensely over

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<v Speaker 1>the past couple or three years and watching him grow

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<v Speaker 1>as as a player. I hope we can keep them.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you know about our chances to do that, Jeff, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>listen the nickel position and you two can talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it much better. And Jim as a quarterback looking at

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<v Speaker 1>defenses and what is put on the shoulders of a

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<v Speaker 1>nickel defender nowadays? It is intense and need an elite mind,

0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:07.040
<v Speaker 1>an elite mindset, and a guy that really understands what

0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:10.000
<v Speaker 1>offenses are doing because they have to understand all the

0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:12.439
<v Speaker 1>other ten responsibilities around him. They got to deal with

0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:14.879
<v Speaker 1>tight ends, backs out of the backfield, read the quarterback,

0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:19.040
<v Speaker 1>in Callahan's case, an outstanding blitzer. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>used to say, remember I used to I used to

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<v Speaker 1>love the play of Antoine Winfield, Right, I would crow

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<v Speaker 1>toughest guy in the whole power pound, the toughest you know,

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<v Speaker 1>defensive back in the NFL. And while Bryce has not

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<v Speaker 1>been able to stay completely healthy throughout his career. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a tough kid mindset and physicality, so I put

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of value on him. I do too, But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I need a guy that's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in there throughout OTAs the development of this defense, and

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<v Speaker 1>because he's considered a starter because they use that defense

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<v Speaker 1>so frequently, he's got to be on the field and

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<v Speaker 1>he's got to be one of those guys with a

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<v Speaker 1>new defensive coordinator and a couple of new pieces in

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<v Speaker 1>place that he's got to be out there for day

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<v Speaker 1>one because I think his role in the defense is

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<v Speaker 1>equally as morton as any football player out there. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you want to go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and have a nickelback who's not participating in practice, I'm

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 1>sure Bryce is going to be healthy. Ones OTAs are

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<v Speaker 1>on your feet action starts, So it's just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just need that body in there till the end. Jim. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just we've talked about a numerous times eleven personnel,

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<v Speaker 1>which is three wides. It's just more and more prevalent.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look at a team like the Rams, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all they run probably eighty five percent of their offensive

0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:30.639
<v Speaker 1>plays or out of three wides, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>coaches say it now and a lot of GM say it.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of your base defense is your forty two nickel,

0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:38.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, So your nickel guy is almost you know,

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<v Speaker 1>has to be a starter, and they've got to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to prepare it for you know, two way goals

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<v Speaker 1>basically on every single play because you're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>going against one of the cat quick receivers on offense.

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<v Speaker 1>So imagine a nickelback going against Julian Edelman right, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of change of direction, all the short routes that

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<v Speaker 1>he runs, and it's so nifty at what he does.

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<v Speaker 1>So your nickelback's got to be a hell of an athlete.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got to be pretty darn tough to hold up

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<v Speaker 1>against the run. And I think Callahan checks all those boxes. Again,

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:07.400
<v Speaker 1>There's there's a lot of good dbs that are coming out,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of them are strictly slot specialists that that

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<v Speaker 1>teams are really targeting in drafting. You know, look at

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>a guy like Chris Harris for the Denver Brockles. Think

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<v Speaker 1>of how they lucked into that guy. Guy was an

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<v Speaker 1>undrafted free agent has become an all Pro player. Um

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:25.520
<v Speaker 1>so you know you gotta have them. It's just the

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<v Speaker 1>direction of the game. More teams are deploying, you know,

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 1>wide out sets, whether it's empty, whether it's three wise,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna need just more talented defensive backs. It's

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:38.679
<v Speaker 1>almost pre rut quisite nowadays. To Naperville. George, Welcome in, George.

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<v Speaker 1>Good evening. Yes, I just wanted to ask a quick

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<v Speaker 1>question regarding, uh, the coaches that are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>coming on board with Chuck the Gano. How many of

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 1>them are returning coaches? How many of them are new coaches. Well,

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.679
<v Speaker 1>there's a bunch of new coaches. They have retained Jay Rodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and I think that's a big one right there.

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.359
<v Speaker 1>That defense line loves him. We love him as a coach,

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<v Speaker 1>how he instructs, what his intensity is out there on

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the practice field, and his instructive ability. These are teachers

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 1>that they had on defense. But the Shay Townsend comes

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>over from the New York Giants. He's a veteran coach,

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:16.520
<v Speaker 1>he's a veteran Pro Bowl player in the secondary. Sean

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Desai gets a promotion. He's been with several administrations and

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<v Speaker 1>just saw him yesterday. As a matter of fact, very

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 1>excited about being retained by the Bears. He's now the

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<v Speaker 1>safety's coach. He got linebacker coach from the Kansas City Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 1>You got Monachino gonna help out Chuck Pogano. There's familiarity there,

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 1>familiarity there with him in Baltimore. So you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of like minded guys on this staff right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jim, you're gonna lean a little bit on Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Pogano to bring in people that he's worked with in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. Yeah, and you know, obviously, you know the experience,

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>you need that on board, and Chuck comes with a

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of experience. He's a colled plenty of defenses in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, has been with a lot of good top

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<v Speaker 1>ten defenses. And one thing I loved about Chuck Pagano,

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<v Speaker 1>even in Indianapolis when their talent started to deteriorate, obviously

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:07.879
<v Speaker 1>everybody knows that they had a lot of you know,

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 1>just the coverard was kind of bare. That team always

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 1>played hard and they continue to play hard for Chuck Pagano.

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<v Speaker 1>So I do think he's got a real innate ability

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:20.679
<v Speaker 1>to motivate players. And hey, let's let's not be you know,

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>no stranger to the great coaches that they lost, and

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 1>in good for vic Fanjoe. He gets a promotion to

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<v Speaker 1>become a head coach in the NFL and he brings

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>one of his talent to defensive assistants that's been with

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 1>him a long time at donahel who moves on to Denver. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it hurts losing that experience, but these other coaches are

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<v Speaker 1>getting the opportunity, and I think Chuck Pagano has done

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<v Speaker 1>a nice job getting the staff together defensively. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just like the fact that Pagano has worked with some

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<v Speaker 1>superstars and he understands the personalities during the course of

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 1>the regular season. What do you do to light of

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 1>fire underneath them? And then how do you give them?

0:26:56.840 --> 0:27:00.199
<v Speaker 1>You feed him enough so they understand their value to

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<v Speaker 1>the team. I liked what he's been surrounded or by

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one, two, sixty four, four, sixty seven, sixty seven

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>or Roberts, how that I will get to you coming

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.720
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<v Speaker 1>double a Jim and Tom with a little bit of

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 1>different do right now? A little different hair due he

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:46.680
<v Speaker 1>actually looks about ten or fifteen years younger. I was

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>shocked he knocked on my door at Hollis Hall yesterday.

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I was working up there, and I was shocked. What

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.159
<v Speaker 1>can be different? It's just different, you could ask him.

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>And then he started making fun of my telephone. He

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>thought it was a business card, right kind the small

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 1>different part, there's no part, It's just it's just different.

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<v Speaker 1>Let that be the teaser for his TV show, As

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>we go back to the Phones three one two sixty four,

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 1>sixty seven sixty seven. Robert on the south Side, hanging

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<v Speaker 1>through the break. You got Adrian Amos on your mind? Huh, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how you guys doing. I just want to get you

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:24.160
<v Speaker 1>guys a pain on something. Uh, do you guys feel

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<v Speaker 1>that the safety classes deepest case year. Do you guys

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<v Speaker 1>think they're going to be more acceptable to Amos walked

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 1>this year? Well, it's all a matter of finances really.

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, they love Adrian Amos. He is one of

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>their homegrown talents, drafted by Ryan Pace and a great

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>guy in the locker room, quiet leader, and well liked

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>in that locker room. But you know, the business of

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>football will kind of set the price, will see what

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<v Speaker 1>they decided to do. Because, yes, Jim, you mentioned it

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a pretty good class of safeties. There is

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<v Speaker 1>some in free agency that Adrian's are part of um

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>In terms of how scouts look the safety position. You know,

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>many say, hey you can get you can get a

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<v Speaker 1>great safety in the later rounds of a draft. Now

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Adrian is in that position where he's a middle round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe still, you know, you got Eddie Jackson as

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>as your big time safety back there. I believe you

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>need those type of safety So I don't necessarily agree

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:20.719
<v Speaker 1>that they are easily found everywhere, But you guys may

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>have a different opinion. You know, it's all how you

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>evaluate the talent of safety position, whether in college or

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>it's an NFL free agent you're looking at what do

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>you need them to do. You need to anticipate long

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>throws downfield, you need to support the line of scrimmage,

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>you need to work well within the linebacker and defensive

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>back structure. And then when you're challenged with a big hit,

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>you have to have the willingness to make it, whether

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 1>it's on the sideline or the open field to play.

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>And he checks out those, every every one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing about it is, you know, one thing

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<v Speaker 1>when you're around a player that that gets to this stage.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to meet him as a rookie year and

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of see kind of a shy reserve personality,

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course the years you get to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to him and he's not overbearing, but he's more confident

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>in himself and his ability. And that's you know, Adrian

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<v Speaker 1>Amos is the type of guy that when you close

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<v Speaker 1>the doors and you only have the players in the

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>locker room, he's a guy that you want in there.

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 1>So I hope the best works out for him. Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think? Yeah, I think he's a very

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>good player. I mean, he's obviously a very sure handed tackler.

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I think he's a big hitter, he plays physical. I'd

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>like to see the turnovers improved. But as you mentioned, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you look at Eddie Jackson being a fourth

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>round pick and Adrian Amos being a fifth round pick.

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Both of these guys are starters and they're productive players,

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you know. So again, I think it's really about the finances.

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, right now, I think the Bears has got

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>about a little over five million dollars. That's that's honestly

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 1>about what you need to sign all your draft picks.

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Quite frankly, you know, could they free up some money,

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>approach other players, give him a signing bonus, and then

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:53.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe clear up some cap space to potentially sign Adrian Amos,

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>But it just depends on how much he's looking for.

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I do think he'll he'll get offers out there on

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the free agent market, and then it's just whether the

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Bears would elect to go that route or just say,

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you want to know what we feel, we've got some

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 1>talented guys that we could turn to to get You know, remember,

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:10.959
<v Speaker 1>Eddie Jackson started as a rookie and Adrian name Us

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>got his opportunity to start early, lost his spot, then

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 1>came back and played a lot better when he got

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>another bite at the bite at the apple. So they're

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>out there and plenty of draft picks that they could

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>draft in is just a much cheaper option, is where

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the Bears could go from that standpoint. So good luck

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to Adrian. Hopefully works out every you know, everything he

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>wants it to be, hopefully works out in his benefit.

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>He certainly worked his way into this position to be

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>a free agent. And I'll tell you though, I love

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>the chemistry in that locker room. I love the chemistry

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>on defense, and Adrian's a big part of that. He

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 1>is an unspoken leader in that in that locker room.

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>All right to Madison, Wisconsin, Nick, you're on Bears all

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 1>access that, Jeff, Tom and Jim. Good evening. Hey guys,

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 1>thanks taking my call. I'm a big believer in Adam

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Shaheen's potential. If he's healthy, what do you think his

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 1>ceiling can be in twenty nineteen? You know, Nick, he's

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 1>one of the guys when I talked about the off season,

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 1>going to the off season healthy and you know, I

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>have to have a you know, to make sure you

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>can work on what you need most. And Adam shan

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>he needs size, He needs some bulk um. You know,

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>you need to be able to stay on your feet

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 1>so you can get back to running routes and get

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>into a better mode of timing with the quarterback. But

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>he is the type of guy that needs the entirety

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>of a healthy off season. He's got a tremendous upside.

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>He you know, uses basketball presence within the tight end game.

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Well when you watch him in individual drills, he knows

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 1>how to block. He is he has is well schooled

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 1>on the line of scrimmage interior blocker. So I have

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>high expectations for him, But I just I need to

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 1>see him get up, you know, every single play healthy,

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's I anticipate the worst when I watch

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>him after he takes a big hit or something. Well,

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, go ahead, Jim, go out. I just I

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>expect big things from him. I just think he's too

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>talented of a player, and it's just unfortunate last year

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 1>that he missed so much time with that foot injury

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 1>coming out of coming out of you know, the preseason games.

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Because I think he is going to be a great

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>red zone weapon. And it's really you know, I'm not

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 1>saying he's gonna get double digit scores, but I expect

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>him to be up there, like you know, nine middle

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 1>him just be knocking at the door to get double

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>digit touchdowns. I think he has that type of ability. Yeah,

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's where he made his touchdown so far.

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 1>And the other thing, you know, the guy I always

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>think about early days. You taught me Tom and Jim.

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 1>You know you remember this player because you felt more

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>man hours were lost to the tight end position because

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>of the types of blocks and what John Already Yeah remember,

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean that is that's that's I'm saying. They're comfortable

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>on what he means. But you know John Already or

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>John Alread caught that out route that's immediately something heavily

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>by the corner or the safety whomever has him and

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 1>undercut his knees and it was just such a vicious injury.

0:33:56.480 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>John Lynch was it? I don't know though, I don't

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>think it was John Lynch, but yeah, I mean there

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>he's John Alred's married to John Lynch's sister, correct, Yeah,

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I think that. But anyway, Yeah, I mean, Jim, you know,

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the tight end position, you get chopped down boy like

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:15.280
<v Speaker 1>tall lumber. Yeah, I remember John. John was extremely talented,

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>very athletic, you know, like you said, because his brother

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>in law John, they kind of had those creative workouts

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 1>that they always did out there in California. I mean

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 1>they'd be carrying logs up, you know, on their back,

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:29.280
<v Speaker 1>like walking up the mountains out there. So very interesting.

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Prospect was a great guy, great teammate, but like you said,

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:36.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's your livelihood. You know, Guys tight

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:39.839
<v Speaker 1>ends and that's why, like guys like Grenkowski that they

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.320
<v Speaker 1>hate players that go low on them. You know, I

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 1>know that all the safety aspect is, you know, from

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:47.439
<v Speaker 1>the helmet and the neck up and all those things,

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.879
<v Speaker 1>but quite honestly, football players they'd rather you go high,

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>especially receivers and tight ends. They'd rather you go high

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.839
<v Speaker 1>than go low and take their knees out from undernea. Well,

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, you look at the two difference

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>in the routes between Trey Burton and Adam Sheheen. There

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 1>is you know, some of those reps or some of

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>those routes that you have of Adam Sheheen on the

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 1>inline tight end there you do that that immediate outturn

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>and then you got that support from the outside where

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>it seems like um Trey Burton, he gets up field,

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.360
<v Speaker 1>he gets to show a little bit more space between

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 1>he and the line of scrimmage. Yeah, well, you know,

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.839
<v Speaker 1>just because Sheheen, Because he's such a big body. He's

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 1>just a totally different body type than Trey Burton, who

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:31.399
<v Speaker 1>is the nifty guy. But you know, to me, why

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>options should be the play for Sheheen. To me, that

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 1>guy would be uncomfortable, uncoverable because if the backers outside,

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:42.360
<v Speaker 1>he just turns inside. If the backer's inside, he turns outside,

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and he just boxes everybody out. And he's got such

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 1>a big frame, you as a quarterback can always throw

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>it far enough away for him to just pluck the

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>ball out of the year. So he's going to clean

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you up a little bit. Yeah, But you know it's

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>just I always say that with big body guys like that,

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you got to learn to play with to your stature,

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 1>so to speak. And I think he still has to

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>learn that a little bit to play to a stature. Hey, Jim,

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 1>is that a difficult route though for Mitchell Trubisky to

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 1>have confidence in to throw that hour You can answer

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 1>it after the commercial, But you know, just something to

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 1>think about as a quarterback, is that Is that a

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:20.279
<v Speaker 1>confident or a route that you need to throw to

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>get confidence in? All right, we'll get you. We'll get

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 1>to it. Well, we'll get to Jim's answer after this break.

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<v Speaker 1>com slash crib fu. Yeah, you got a little one

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>in the family. We got a bunch of him. John

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Henry's the youngest one, Jim. That does not sound small, hey, John,

0:36:57.719 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>He's not. I mean I think he was like twelve

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>or thirteen pounds when he was born. He was huge.

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Is that that fair? Hereditary? Wells his dad played professional

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:12.280
<v Speaker 1>football or no, excuse me, My niece's father played professional

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 1>football and this was married to my sister John Scy.

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 1>So there is size blessed into the that gene. So

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>he got John Henry and what's your little one's name again, Jim. Oh,

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 1>my little one is Asa oh Asa? All right. How

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 1>about the boy Kate or Man. He's twelve, he's been

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 1>going on thirteen here and then uh kJ my five

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>year old. He's kind of the beast. He went over

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 1>ten pounds when he was born. Yeah, I remember you

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.720
<v Speaker 1>talking about that. So he got some future NFL players

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, he's close to one hundred pounds as a

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.359
<v Speaker 1>five year old. He dwarfs. I mean he powers over

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:49.839
<v Speaker 1>everybody in his kindergarten. Holy cow, that's good to hear.

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:52.439
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<v Speaker 1>of the hour. Let's go back to the phones. Linden

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 1>on the line from North Judson Lindon, Yeah, you guys

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 1>are great to listen to. I'd drive home every night

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 1>listening to you guys, and I could relate to what

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>you guys were saying tonight and about the third round pick,

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>how well he'd come out. And I just wanted to

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 1>know if you guys would go back last year and

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>play back some of your recordings, how you predicted the

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 1>season compared to this year. I know last year you

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:34.760
<v Speaker 1>guys never or was not anticipating such a great season,

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:38.320
<v Speaker 1>which it was, and this year or anticipating a great season.

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 1>That's end. That's a great point because I labeled it

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>as the Great Unknown, and you didn't really know what

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:50.359
<v Speaker 1>to expect. It's a whole different offense with all new

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 1>pieces around, a young quarterback that's in his first year

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:55.280
<v Speaker 1>in his system. So right then and there you think, Okay,

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>this is going to take some time. You knew you

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>had great defensive players, but right before the season you

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 1>get one of the best players in the NFL. That

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 1>changes everybody's perception. So I had modest thoughts personally, and

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I never make predictions on wins or losses, but I

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 1>have a feel for what I believe in context, and

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I had modest expectations because whatever you say about John Fox,

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 1>the culture in that locker room did begin to change,

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 1>and I knew it was a tight group, and from

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>my perspective being around there every day, that was a

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:28.760
<v Speaker 1>great starting point to have a really locked in team

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:31.319
<v Speaker 1>that was hungry to start winning because it hadn't been

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:34.760
<v Speaker 1>happening in a long time. Yeah, desper you know, it's interesting. Interesting.

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Today on the Bears website there is an article by

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Larry Mayor and Ryan Pace was a feature talking about

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 1>his decision making process going through and meeting with Matt

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and Maggie, and the more he met him, the more

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>he talked to him, the more he was kind of

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>unveiling that this is the right guy for the job.

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>This is how you understand who you want to go

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 1>out and research and who you want to continue this

0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 1>process and start changing the culture and the process around here.

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 1>So that kind of I was really encouraged by reading that,

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 1>the foresight of what Ryan Pace, because none of us

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:08.719
<v Speaker 1>knew what we are getting with Matt Naggie. We have

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 1>friends around the National Football League that always and all

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 1>of them bragged about what a guy he is, what

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 1>a person who was what is football intelligence? You know,

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 1>just his you know, just the caliber, the quality, the

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 1>quality of person he is. And so yeah, you know,

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:26.800
<v Speaker 1>you think about the Bears losing season before trying to

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 1>predict what was going to happen the first year of

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Matt Naggie. Man, we are we are begging and hoping

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>for seven and nine, But then we talked about it.

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I think last week in All Access, Now did this

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.840
<v Speaker 1>pull one year out from the development of Matt Naggie,

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>because now we have Super Bowl expectations, you know, and

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that's how things have changed around here. Yeah, you just

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think anybody would have predicted that

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 1>type of success. You know, it's supposed to be a

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 1>foundation year, you know, it's a coaches, a young coach's

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 1>first year. Everybody thought it'd take time to get the

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 1>offense up and running, but the defense really held to

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 1>everything down early. And like you said that that trade

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 1>with for Khalil Mack I think kind of changed everything

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 1>because here you got a team that's five and eleven

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 1>under John Fox, they couldn't even score sixteen. They averaged

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 1>like sixteen point one points a game to took increase

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>at by more than a touchdown. By the end of

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the year, they were averaging over twenty six points a game,

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.959
<v Speaker 1>close to twenty eight. I mean, that type of jump

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>does not happen normally. So that is a huge turnaround

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 1>offensively what they were able to do and they're still

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:34.360
<v Speaker 1>on the infantile stages. It really started to catch fire

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 1>week eight, week nine, and they really started to play

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 1>in score some good points on offense to compliment a

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:44.279
<v Speaker 1>defense that was absolutely smothering. And it's very possible they

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 1>could win fewer games this year and still be a

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>better team and be a more dangerous team come playoff time.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, out to Wheeling Todds on the line here

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<v Speaker 1>on Bearzall Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy of

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<v Speaker 1>the score get evening. Thank you, guys. I got a

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.279
<v Speaker 1>quick question. You know, when I watched tree Comb run

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and fisters these defenses and run away from these defenders,

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>You guys got incredible speed, and I wanted to know,

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:10.479
<v Speaker 1>in your opinion, who's faster, Devin Hester or tree Con

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:13.959
<v Speaker 1>And m Jeff, could you please do the Devin Hester

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 1>ridiculous line one more time? Yeah, you know that thing

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 1>has been put to bed. That goes that goes in

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 1>the archives now. But I don't know. That's a great question.

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:26.320
<v Speaker 1>But I think the the instinctive running of Devon in

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the open field added to his speed. So to me

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 1>it was Devin. You know, Devin Hester the playmaker never

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 1>fit into the offenses of that era. If you would

0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 1>take Devin Hester and fit him to the offenses of

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 1>this era, where maybe he took a little handoff, a

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>jet sweep, a quick little pass out to the edge,

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:47.839
<v Speaker 1>even more threatening downfield with his abilities. To me, it's

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 1>the mentality of Matt Naggie being able to use the

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:54.279
<v Speaker 1>creative creativity of an athlete. And I think if Matt

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:56.880
<v Speaker 1>had his hands on a guy like Devin Hester, I

0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>know Chris Tabor, the special team's coordinator, would still be

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 1>using him every time he could. However, you put him

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 1>in an offense and you have another threatening weapon. But

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>who's faster? No, yeah, no disrespect to Tarik Cohen, but

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Devin Hester had some jets. No, I mean that guy's

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 1>so fast he lives in the future. It's ridiculous. Yes,

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 1>yes he was. You know, just again the vision and

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<v Speaker 1>instincts in that one cut, which is the patent and

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<v Speaker 1>move for Devin Hester. But hey, nothing to take away

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<v Speaker 1>from Tariq. I mean he's still he's still a young

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<v Speaker 1>player too. He's still gonna get get better and stronger. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I don't I don't know. Devin Hester

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<v Speaker 1>could not play the running back position the way Trek

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<v Speaker 1>Cohen plays a tree Cohen, he has the physicalness to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to absorb the abuse that he hate takes.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think that Devin from a behind center,

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<v Speaker 1>behind quarterback totally different positions, that's for sure. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks again for your phone call. Three one two sixty four,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty seven sixty seven. Jeff time and Jim for a

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<v Speaker 1>few more minutes here. I just want to do some thought, says.

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<v Speaker 1>We go down to the news of the day today.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jim real quick today with the first day he

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<v Speaker 1>could tag players. Who do you expect to be tagged? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you look at it, I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>only going to be about six players that will ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>be tagged. You gotta believe to Marcus Lawrence of the

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys, he'll probably get the tag Again, Dallas doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of money to really resign him to

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<v Speaker 1>a long term contract, so he'll probably get about twenty

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<v Speaker 1>million bucks. You would think d four another pass rusher

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<v Speaker 1>for Kansas City Chiefs. He'll have the ability to be tagged,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Kansas City will tag him. Jadeveon Clowney

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<v Speaker 1>is an interesting guy. He's I think Houston just no

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<v Speaker 1>offense to him. I mean he's always banged up, he

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<v Speaker 1>never really practices. I think Houston will probably end up

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<v Speaker 1>tagging him at the end of the day, just get

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<v Speaker 1>more one more year out of him, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>think ultimately he'd probably move on in free agency. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see them trying to sign him to a long

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<v Speaker 1>term contract, and then the other players that are out

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<v Speaker 1>there potentially that cook get tagged. You gotta believe probably

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<v Speaker 1>c J. Mosley, there's going to be a decision there

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<v Speaker 1>by Baltimore. Part of me thinks that they will tag

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<v Speaker 1>him because to me, he'll command pretty good money as

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<v Speaker 1>a linebacker out there on the open market. And oddly enough,

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<v Speaker 1>we always see a couple of kickers tagged every year.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to say this, but probably Robbie Gold might

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<v Speaker 1>get tagged out there for San Francisco, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>think Gostkowski. One position Bill Belichick has tagged is their

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<v Speaker 1>kicking position, and I think Goskowski potentially could get the

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<v Speaker 1>tag for the New England Pager. You know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>say oddly enough, explain, well, it's just the kicking position

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't command a lot of money, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>It's very You know, a lot of teams that's a

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<v Speaker 1>specialized position. And you look at the issues I e.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bears' problems with kicking last year. I'd tag a

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<v Speaker 1>kicker too, especially one is as good as Gaskowski or

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<v Speaker 1>a guy as good as Robbie Gold and what he's done.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, we've had this discussion before. What position has

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger impact on a football team? But probably only

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<v Speaker 1>get six reps the game right each here? Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>determined outcomes the game as Dow putters. As Dow putters,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the biggest, biggest play most YARNI right, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to right, all right about six plays. I was done.

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<v Speaker 1>We won't talking to the count combine, Jim. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>doing that show from Indy together. Tom will have his

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<v Speaker 1>ego eye on scouting mid to late round picks. It'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a different kind of combine for you this year.

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<v Speaker 1>They're starters in the third round, fourth round, fifth round,

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<v Speaker 1>six rounds. They're starters out there. I think the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>can attract you know, they got the opportunity. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Tom, Tom Fair, Jim Miller. But little nickles. Thanks

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