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Now 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: your hosts, Mickey Spagnola and Bill Jones, it is time 9 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: for a very special edition of the Cowboys Legend Show 10 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: from the Cowboys Club here at the Star in Frisco. 11 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: I am Bill Jones along with Mickey spag Nola. It's 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: special one part because it is a victory Wednesday out 13 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: here at the Star. The Cowboys beat the Eagles on 14 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: Sunday night and they look ahead to the Atlanta Falcons 15 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: this week. That makes for some applause at the Cowboys Club, Mickey, 16 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: and a road victory at that. Yeah, how about that? 17 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: That don win on the road. Now they try to 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: win two in a row on the road. And this 19 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: is a special edition of the Cowboys Legend Show as well, 20 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: because we are going to have a very special guest, 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: one who does not have Dallas Cowboys on his resume, 22 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: but kay to think outside the boxes. He has been 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: thinking outside the box and when he arrives, we expect 24 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: a very warm Cowboys welcome for Mean Joe Green, absolutely 25 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: native Texan who has been making the rounds around the 26 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: Star throughout the afternoon today and he is just across 27 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: the plazaway there and he should be here very shortly. Yeah, 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: he had a previous function and they said they would 29 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: be cutting it close, and I said, oh, that's okay. 30 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: To get our chance to have you on the show, 31 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: just come over when you can. And so we hope 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: he will be here real soon. Yeah, he was at 33 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: the Star today with with Randy White. They were they 34 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: were doing a tour I think that was some sort 35 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: of silent auction thing somebody won and they were supposed 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: to get a tour here or some sort of function. 37 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: How about that It was for Charny White, the Manster 38 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: and Mean Joe Green in the house together and guess 39 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: whose special? Guess who else is here? Who else? Tim Brown? 40 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: Tim Brown? You win Tim Brown bro Football Hall of Favor. 41 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: We might need to go and get him and bring 42 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: him over here. I was walking in. I looked as well, 43 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Tim Brown speaking of that, as you branch out and 44 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 1: get yes non cowboys on the Cowboys Legend Show. Why 45 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: not having Dallas Woodrow Wilson x Tim Brown on the 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: show in the future too? And I was trying to 47 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: track down Mike Singletary because there you go, he's of 48 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: course Singletary is the head coach at Trinity Christian Addison 49 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: and uh, of course the former Chicago Bear Great Baylor 50 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: Bear Grayton n F head coach got back into coaching 51 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: this year with the Trinity Christian Addison. That'd be great. 52 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: He lives just right down the road. I like the 53 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: way you're thinking there, Mickey, looks like he should be 54 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: here maybe after our first break. Okay, that sounds good. 55 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: In the meantime, let's get you caught up to speed 56 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: on what's going on with the Cowboys here. As the 57 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: Cowboys were back on the practice field and they were 58 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: outdoors on the practice field today, it was a beautiful day. 59 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: It was a little chilly, but nice day. I talked 60 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: with Jason Garrett this afternoon we'd take the Jason Garrett Show, 61 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: and he said on his drive here this morning, it 62 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: was twenty eight degrees and he was contemplating do we 63 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: go inside or outside, and then he heard there was 64 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: gonna warm up, and so he decided, let's do it 65 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: outside today. And he said, Dak Prescott, say wait a second, 66 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: we're going outside. We're playing inside. Just we figure that 67 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: was coming. Absolutely, it was a great day for practice, 68 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: although there were a lot of Cowboy players who did 69 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: not practice. I think I counted nine, and some of them, 70 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: I think we're getting a somewhat of a veteran day, 71 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: especially a couple of the guys that were nicked up 72 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: in the game, like Zach Martin and uh MALIEK Collins. 73 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: They were they were able to get back in the 74 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: game and finish, but you don't at this time of 75 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: the year. Bill availability I think is much more important 76 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: than practice. Uh. You just want to get the guys 77 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: that are nicked up to the game, and I think 78 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: that was the mentality there. I think the um the 79 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: critical injuries that that showed up, and Antoine Woods was 80 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: out also on that defensive line, but I think he 81 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: finished the game, so I think he was just getting 82 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: a day. Uh, the ones you worry about Obviously, Sean 83 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: Lee's not gonna be back, I doubt and until after Thanksgiving, 84 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: don't you think maybe December somewhere? Uh in there? Uh? 85 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: David Irving still out. I haven't even seen him like rehab. 86 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: So normally when you see guys on the chords, they're 87 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: getting closer to playing. I haven't seen that. And one 88 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: of the one of the troubling ones is Taco Charlton 89 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: because it had a kind of a trickle down effect 90 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: on the entire team when he missed, and then Tyrone 91 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: Crawford had to go out and play defensive end, and 92 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: then they lost Daniel Ross before the game ever started, 93 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: and then Malie Collins went off. So then if you 94 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: could stay with me here, Tyrone Crawford had to go 95 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: back inside to the defensive tackle position, which meant Randy 96 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: Gregory now was basically a starter, and he tied his 97 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: season high with forty snaps in the game. And then 98 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, who normally gets spelled and plays about seventy 99 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: five percent of the snaps, ended up playing ninety percent 100 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: of the snaps because they didn't they were starting to 101 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: get low on defensive ends. So Taco said he was 102 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: day to day, I said, okay, thay, but he did 103 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: not participate, that he didn't participate, that he has a 104 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: shoulder injury. Yeah, and I don't know when Jason says, well, 105 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: we hope he's going to do something that is not 106 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: very optimistic. And Tyrn Smith missed today, but that's probably 107 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: a veteran day for him. Too cold to go outside 108 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: for his back. Come on, well. And the other thing 109 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: to consider is they do play two games in the 110 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 1: span of five days. They play Sunday at noon against Atlanta, 111 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: and then of course the Redskins come here on Thanksgiving 112 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: Day and then a week after that on a Thursday night, 113 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: Drew Brees and the Saints will be here too. So 114 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: you don't want to wear the guys out practicing. You 115 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: don't want to leave the game on the field out 116 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: here at the Star. So I think he's going to 117 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: be very conservative with how much he works those guys, 118 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: especially the guys like like Tyrn Smith. You don't want 119 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: to overdo it. Same thing with Zach Martin. You know, 120 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: get him to the game and you hope he doesn't 121 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: ding that knee up again. I will say this. You 122 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: mentioned Randy Gregory with forty snaps in the game, and 123 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: he was a full participating practice. He is fully back 124 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: from his arthurscopic surgery, and you could tell it in 125 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: the game in Philadelphia on Sunday. He was quicker off 126 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: the ball than I've seen him in a while. And 127 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: you know, he had he had the same surgery. He 128 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: had his knee scope to take out a loose piece 129 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: of cartilage and it took him. He missed two games. 130 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: So in the third week he returned and the other 131 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: guy did William Connor Williams now he was at least 132 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: out there. He did some stuff. He was limited, but 133 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: you know what, Randy that second game that he missed 134 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: was limited also, and they actually worked him out beforehand 135 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: trying to see if he could play. So with Connor 136 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: Williams out, Zack Martin out, then that offensive line uh 137 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: looked like it did for about thirteen snaps with Adam 138 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: Redman at right tackle, uh left and then with Tyron out, 139 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: then you had Fleming working at left tackle. So I 140 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: was a lot too much like Atlanta last year. Elsie 141 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: was the last bad standard, you know. But to see 142 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory come off the ball like he did, you 143 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: wonder if that knee had been bothering him for a 144 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: little while this season, and I think you're right, Yeah, wow, 145 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: you could. When he and Lawrence are in the game 146 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: at the same time, pinning their ears back and going 147 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: after the quarterback, it makes a huge difference. And imagine 148 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: if David Irving was in there. I don't know if 149 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: I should hold my breath on that one or not. 150 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: It seems to be always something happens with him, and 151 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: and I understand injuries, and you know, he had a 152 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: high ankle sprain, and you know those high ankle sprains 153 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: usually take about four weeks, so I think this is 154 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: his third. So maybe maybe next how probably after Thanksgiving? Right, yeah, 155 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: maybe when Breeze and the Saints come here. We've got 156 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: Danny Serek with a wireless microphone. Hello, Danny, how are 157 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: you doing? As She's got a wireless microphone, and anyone 158 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: in attendance here can ask us questions about the Cowboys? 159 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: How you doing? Danny doing well? Bell? Thanks? I have 160 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: a question for you guys to kind of get started 161 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: talking a lot about defense. With Shaun Lee being out 162 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: the way, we've seen Layton Vanderesh step up your first 163 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: career interception a lot of the team and tackles in Philadelphia. 164 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: How oftimistic can Cowboys fans be about the future of 165 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: the defense with Jalen and Vanderesh. Well, I think with 166 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: Layton vander esh well with both of them actually, but 167 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: the way Layton Vanderesh played on Sunday in Philadelphia, by 168 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: the way, if you haven't heard, he was named the 169 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: NFC Defensive Player of the Week, and Layton vander Esch 170 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: was officially credited with nineteen tackles in the game. Also 171 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: got his first career interception, of course, and I think 172 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: when you, I think when we look back at that 173 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: Philadelphia game, and he's had terrific games before, he had 174 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: eighteen tackles against the Texans a few weeks ago, but 175 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: I thought that was the game where you could really 176 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: see what Vanderesh can do. Absolutely, and you know he's 177 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: been building and building and building, and then to make 178 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: to get that many tackles fifteen of them, by the way, 179 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: we're solo. And then the interception, the tackle for the 180 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: loss that was basically ended that possession even though they 181 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: gained six yards went for it on fourth down the 182 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: Eagles did and didn't get it, but that put him 183 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: in in a bad situation and he had a pass defense. 184 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he was just all over the place. And 185 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: I think you see what the Cowboys saw of him 186 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: during the draft process and why he was such a priority, 187 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: not only because of his talent, because of Sean Lee 188 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: with you know, kind of usually gets banged up at 189 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: some point and they didn't want to get caught shorthanded. 190 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: You know, we we know what happened against Atlanta last 191 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: year when they went there with Tyrn Smith, but Shawn 192 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: Lee was also out and Ezekiel Elliott was also out, 193 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: and you know that game. I was going back and 194 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: looking at it. It was not to get off subject. 195 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: It was seventeen seven going into the fourth quarter in 196 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: seven game a half, ten seven at halftime, So it 197 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: wasn't totally out of out of whack. It just felt 198 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: like it they scored that that touchdown in the fourth quarter. Yeah, 199 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: with the eight sacks when one guy's getting six sacks, Yeah, 200 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: that was so you better at home. And by the way, 201 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: Adrian Clayborne now plays for the Patriots, play that they 202 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about him. But back to Venders, 203 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: just amazing and to kind of put into context what 204 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: he's done. Those nineteen tackles. Uh broke the record Shawn 205 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: Lee set for Ricky most tackles in a single game. 206 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: And right now he's got ninety six tackles. The rookie 207 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: record for single season tackles Dexter Cokeley with one hundred 208 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: and thirty six in nineteen eighty seven, I mean nineteen 209 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: ninety seven. So yeah, forty away from tyeing it with 210 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: seven games to go. My math tells me that's less 211 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: five six sacks a game right at his recent pace. 212 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: Get that in the next couple of games. Party tackles. Yeah, absolutely, Dexter, 213 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know so, Yeah, he's playing. And then 214 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: the other thing about him is he's such a sharp guy. 215 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: He's starting to see things. He's starting to figure them out, 216 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: like that screen pass that he got the guy for 217 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: the five yard loss, he said, I was, I was 218 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: figuring they're either running it at me or they're gonna 219 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: throw a screen and I was leaning towards the screen. 220 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: And sure enough, from probably doing his film work and 221 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: having Sewn Lee in his ear all the time, and 222 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: having his locker one empty locker away from Sean Lee, 223 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: I think by osmosis, he's really learning this game. Okay, 224 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: you need to go on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Brian 225 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: brought us breaks it down that play by Layton vander Esh, 226 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: and Brian does a great job from a scoutsye view 227 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: of the coach's film where vander Esh could tell that 228 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: the running back was split out a little bit wider 229 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: away from Carson Wentz than he normally does. That tipped 230 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: him off that it might be a screen pass out 231 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: to that side. But what Brian remembered was a couple 232 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: of years ago at at and T Stadium, in a 233 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: critical stage in a game, he remembered Sean Lee making 234 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: a similar play where he got outside the offensive lineman 235 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: and stopped darren Sproles. He found that video and compared 236 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: this play with the Sean Lee play from two years ago, 237 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: and it is remarkable how similar the two plays are. 238 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: Where it was remarkable number one, that the linebacker, either 239 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: vander Esh or Lee two years ago got outside so 240 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: quickly and diagnosed that play. I think that's a great 241 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: example of the Sean Lee like play from a mental standpoint, 242 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: reading and reacting that Layton vander Esh has. He has 243 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: those type of linebacker instincts which are very difficult to 244 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: come by. I think they got a good win there 245 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: from a young guy, Danny. Do we have any questions? 246 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: Anybody out there have a Cowboy question that they want 247 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: to throw at us while we're waiting for Joe Green 248 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: to show up. Should be here any minute, But we 249 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: can continue taking some questions about the Cowboys of anybody's 250 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: got anything they want to ask. I thought another kind 251 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: of not a breakout performance, but for a good sign 252 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: was Ezekiel Elliott not only rushing for one hundred and 253 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: fifty one yards and a touch amound, but also catching 254 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: six passes and another touchdown. And I think that might 255 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: be the trickle down effect of having a Marie Cooper 256 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: on the field. Yeah, I mean, and Marie Cooper affected 257 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: many things. You know, when you look at scoring in 258 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: the National Football League this year, I mean, you've got 259 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: multiple games in which teams have scored over fifty points 260 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: now and the high powered offenses. And now you look 261 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: back at two weeks ago the Cowboys making that trade, 262 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: and the way the Cowboys were performing offensively the first 263 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: half of the season, it was imperative that the Cowboys 264 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: make that trade. I think if they planned on competing 265 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: in the second half of the season, and in this 266 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: game against Philadelphia, I think we started really showing. We 267 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: started seeing the effects of what Amari Cooper, an outside 268 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: receiver who can separate, can have on an offense and 269 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: the offensive line playing I think much better. You know 270 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: when you when you look at it, and I was 271 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: looking at touchdowns. The Cowboys only scored eighteen touchdowns in 272 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: nine games. That's easy math, even at Oklahoma, right, and 273 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: the leaders Kansas City have scored forty four. Now they've 274 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: played one more game, but still more difficult math. Right. Uh, 275 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: New Orleans has like forty two the Ram. The Rams 276 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: are at like thirty nine forty the Cowboys have eighteen touchdowns. 277 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: That that's not gonna get it. And they've got to 278 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: do a better job. Only six teams have fewer touchdowns 279 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: than they do this year, and so that kind of 280 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: shows you the struggles they've had offensively so far. The 281 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: only other game that they've scored more than at least 282 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: three touchdowns was Detroit. Uh, but it's only happened twice. 283 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: Now three touchdowns are more and that's got to pick up. 284 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't got to pick up this week against 285 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: Atlanta because this Falcon's offense. I don't care that the 286 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys got the number three scoring defense in the league. 287 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: This Falcon's offense can score points. Yeah, absolutely, And and 288 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: and throwing the football, that's that, that's their calling card. 289 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: Now they're not very good when you throw it against them. 290 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: So again, you need to score some points. And I 291 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: don't want to hear any more of this business about 292 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: defense wins. That that's ten years ago. Well let's see. 293 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Greening says something about that too. You big, 294 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: you can see if you can let me get rid 295 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: of that now and tell you not when he's here, 296 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: right right, We're going to continue here on the Cowboys 297 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: Legend Show. Get your questions ready, Cowboys questions mean Joe 298 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: green questions. When we come back here on the Cowboys 299 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: Legend Show in just a moment, back to the SWBC 300 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: Mortgage Dallas Cowboys Legends Show, broadcasting live from the Cowboys 301 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: Club at the Star in Frisco. We will call the 302 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: Steel Kurt. And in time, I know some of my 303 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: teammates from those great stealer victories will be joining me here. 304 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: But for now, that is Justiny Oh, number seventy five, 305 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: the only player in the Pro Football Hall of Fame 306 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: with the fourth of the Bowl Ring. Yes, a very 307 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 1: special edition of the Cowboys Legend Show from here at 308 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. It's brought 309 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: to you by s WBC Mortgage. For more than forty years, 310 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: s WBC has been helping people, companies and financial institutions 311 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: prepare to win in Texas and across the country. Visit 312 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: SWBC dot com to learn more. And yes, we do 313 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: have applause here at the Cowboys Club, be granted turns 314 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: of our special guest, former Pittsburgh Steeler, great Pro Football 315 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, College Football Hall of Famer. At what 316 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: was then North Texas State University, now of course known 317 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: as the University of North Texas Home and the Mean 318 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: Green Cowboys. Welcome for the great Mean Joe Green, who 319 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: is putting on his headset. Now. I think I got it. 320 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: I think you do. I don't know. It kind of 321 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: got tangled up there. Yeah, I'll see if we can 322 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: work on it. I can tangled up a lot. Welcome, 323 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. It's a pleasure to be here. 324 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: I've been here earlier today. And it goes without saying 325 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: this is a fantastic facility. Fantastic, it really is. And 326 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: what you heard, I think when you were walking in 327 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: you had done a commercial for the Pro Football Hall 328 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: of Fame, and you kind of rubbed it into your teammates, 329 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: saying you were the first one from that era to 330 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: get into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And you know, 331 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: I went back and checked and it was true. He 332 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: was the first guy. They came following after you. Right, Well, 333 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: I was the oldest, and that doesn't mean I was 334 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: the best. I was just the oldest, and I was 335 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: just blessed, no doubt about it, to be a part 336 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: of such a fantastic football team and an organization. Anyone 337 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: that watches football and watches teams play their favorite teams 338 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: know that it starts from the top and it's the organization. 339 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: A good example would be this past week the Dallas 340 00:19:52,880 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys facing when everybody accept those people that it's in 341 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: this building, and those people that practice every day knew 342 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: what the outcome is going to be. And that's that's 343 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: because the organization. The coaches circle the wagons and said 344 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: this is the one that's going this is the game 345 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: that's going to change the course of the season, and 346 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: they became believers. When they became believers, anything anything can happen, 347 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: and the goal that they were seeking was to come 348 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: away with the victory. That is what teamwork is out 349 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: all about, and that is what leadership is all about. 350 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: Make no mistake about it. It was about leadership and 351 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: those guys buying into the program. That's what it's about. 352 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: And if you can do it once, you can do 353 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: it again and again and again. Now they have a 354 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: chance to turn around their season. Yes, they do. You know, 355 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: the first Pittsburgh Steeler from that era to go into 356 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And Joe, you are 357 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: also the first non Cowboy to be on the Cowboys 358 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: Legend Show. Mickey, how long have you been doing this show? Well, 359 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: this is his second appearance by the world. How about that. Yes, 360 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: I've been doing it for about six seven years and 361 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: he's the only longer than that. Well over for you. 362 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 1: When did you hand off? I thought we did it together? 363 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: All right, we've been having the Cowboys Legend Show. It's 364 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: been or twelve years? Yeah, at least. Well, i've been 365 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: I've been. I've been in this area since nineteen seventy 366 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: years and I've been sending messages and messages and Vicky, 367 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: when are you gonna have me on your show? I 368 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: think you beat me here if you got from your 369 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: University of North Texas days. All right. For for some 370 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: of you out there who aren't familiar with the nineteen seventies, 371 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: let me bring you up to speed on mean Joe Green, 372 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: who might have been and he might want to take 373 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: the mite out of it. The most dominant defensive player 374 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: in the National Football League in the decade of the seventies, 375 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: four time Super Bowl champion, ten time Pro Bowler, five 376 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: time first Team All Pro, two time second team All Pro, 377 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: NFL Man of the Year in nineteen seventy nine, which 378 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: is about as prestigious an award as you can receive, 379 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: the two time NFL Defensive Player of the Year, the 380 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year in nineteen sixty nine, 381 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: a member of the NFL seventy fifth Anniversary All Time Team, 382 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies All Decade Team, and of course the 383 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers have retired his number seventy five, and he 384 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: was a consensus first team All American in nineteen sixty 385 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: eight playing at North Texas State University. A member of 386 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame, the College Football Hall 387 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: of Fame, probably the Temple Texas Hall of Fame too, right, 388 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: did we leave anything out? My goodness, it's quite a career. 389 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: I can tell you is that regardless of how I tried, 390 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: the Lord just blessed me. He just blessed me first 391 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: having the body to withstand all the punishment that one 392 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: does playing the game, and having an opportunity to go 393 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: to play for North Texas. And I went to North 394 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: Texas probably well, no problem probably about it. I read 395 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: about Abne Haynes, who some dollars, and I read about 396 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: Abne Haynes being in North Texas, and that was the 397 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: impotence that took me to visit North Texas. And I 398 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: had an outstanding time there North Texas. Met my first 399 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: wife there, and my kids were born there. And in 400 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: my sophomore year, they started this mean green thing, not 401 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: because of me, but because of the colors of the school. 402 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: And we played pretty good defense. And when I got 403 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: drafted number one by the Pittsburgh Steelers, and I knew 404 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: about the Pittsburgh Steelers, I went to a cowboy game 405 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: versus the Steelers that over at Fair Park and I 406 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: saw how bad they were. I did not want to 407 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: go to Pittsburgh. And when I got drafted by Pittsburgh 408 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: that number four that year, that was the first the 409 00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: fourth player drafted in nineteen sixty nine, I was not happy. 410 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: I should have been celebrating someplace, but I wasn't. And 411 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: I guess that's why. That's another reason I can say 412 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: I was blessed, because if I had my choice, I 413 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't have chosen the Pittsburgh Steelers. I would not have 414 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: been in the company of or having an opportunity to 415 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: being coached by Chuck Nole, having the ownership of the 416 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: Rooney's and Dan Rooney and Art Rooney Senior. Love that 417 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: I know, and I didn't know Pittsburgh Steelers had not 418 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: won anything in the entire history, and I didn't want 419 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: to go there. And in my first year, we won 420 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: the first ball game and lost thirteen and you still 421 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 1: were the NFL defensive Rookie of the Year. How but uh, 422 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: as as as time went on, you know, uh, we 423 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: had we got enough players in there, and and believability 424 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: in the coach and believability in the organization that Mayl 425 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: Blunt became Meyl Blunt Terry Bradshaw became Terry Bradshaw, len 426 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: Swan became len Swan, Frank o'harris became Frank o' harris, 427 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: Lambert became Lambert, and I think I may have grown 428 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: a little bit as a player. Then then we became 429 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, and it was that game at the 430 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: Cotton Ball that you went to the Steelers and the Cowboys. 431 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: It was fifty years ago, next month and years. Oh 432 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: my goodness, just seen sixty eight. And by the way, 433 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers did not good in that game. They lost 434 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: at twenty eight to seven. Oh no, no, we didn't 435 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: look it at all. All right, We're going to continue 436 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: with me and Joe Green here on the Cowboys Legend 437 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: Show at just a moment from the Cowboys Club at 438 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. Back back to the s WBC 439 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: Mortgage Dallas Cowboys Legends Show broadcasting live from the Cowboys 440 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: Club at the Star in Frisco. Kawbox play action banking 441 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: back date, He've got time again. Now running to his right, 442 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: Ry comes to ten to fifteen and twenty eight the 443 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: twenty five and Green nails and means he dives in 444 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: at the twenty nine yard line, Joe Green. He chased 445 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: Roger Roger Staubach that far down field to make a 446 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: tackle him missed him. That was Super Bowl thirteen. Of course, 447 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: the Steelers won that game thirty five thirty one, and 448 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: that was a third quarter play. It was second and 449 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: ten at the eighteen, and you were able to track 450 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: him down. Huh. I chased him. That's about all I 451 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: can say about that. Roger was so so elusive, and 452 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: for a person like me that didn't run, wasn't very quick. 453 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: I remember several times I had an opportunity to sack Roger, 454 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: but I never could and then never could corral him. 455 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: You know, I was going through that play by play 456 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 1: from that game, and he did a lot of running 457 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: in that game too. Yes he did, Yes he did. 458 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: And that's what Roger had to the ability to do, 459 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: is to stretch out of play and and make it 460 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: last as long as he had to to come out 461 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: on the positive side of it. Just a tremendous, tremendous competitor. 462 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: The game never was over until the opposition had the ball. 463 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: In this game, it was us we had the ball 464 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: on and that the points in our favor, and they 465 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: weren't gonna get it back. That's when we knew we 466 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: had a chance to win. You know, Joe, I thought 467 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: it was interesting how far you've come, and this whole 468 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: thing started in Temple, Texas Dunbar High School. Is that correct? 469 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: That that's correct? And that's where you started playing football? Yes, sir, Yes, sir. 470 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: We uh at Dunbar. We never finished above five hundred 471 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: and Mickey and Bill. My high school days were really, really, 472 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: really bad. I I say this all the time, and 473 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: I am embarrassedied, but I my senior year, I got 474 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: thrown out of every game we played, way every game, 475 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: every game, I always started to fight, always started to fight. 476 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: And I recall very vividly that the last game I 477 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: played in and my head coach told me said, Joe, 478 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: if you start that mess again, I'm just gonna let 479 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: them beat you up. I'm saying, nobody out to help you. 480 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: And my goodness, I made it to the last play 481 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: of the game and I swung at the guy and 482 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: hit him, and their team came out and my team 483 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: stayed on the sideline. One guy came out to help me, 484 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: and he was he was the guy. His name was 485 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: Speedy Speeding. Okay, so the nickname mean Joe Green, and 486 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: yet you're one of the nicest men in sports wherever. Okay, 487 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: So how did you get the nickname mean Joe Green? Well, 488 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: it sounds like you were meaning on the football field 489 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: in high school. I was, well, I didn't like losing. 490 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: And that's it took me while I figure why why 491 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: I acted the way that I did. And when I 492 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: came to North Texas, I never got thrown out of 493 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: a ball game, and it was because we were winning. 494 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: We won well. We only lost three games and in 495 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: in five games in three years, so we were doing well. 496 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: Go to Pittsburgh, I get tossed out of about three. 497 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: It was really because we weren't doing well. And that's 498 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: when I realized it was it was because of um 499 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: my disdain for losing, and that was the only way 500 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: I knew how to respond was to was to fight. 501 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: So did you learn that on your own or was 502 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: there a culture or someone who had an influence on 503 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: you that had a huge effect. Well, the coach that 504 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: had a huge effect on me of changing was Chuck No. 505 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: You know he told me that. He said, you know, Joe, 506 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: those officials do not like what you're saying today. You know, 507 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: they have families and they probably don't like it either. 508 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: And you know I thought about it and I said, yeah, 509 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: well he's he's right about that. That and the fact 510 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: that me starting those ruckasses and being just acting very 511 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: poorly and immature, my team started to respond in a 512 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 1: negative way that we started to give up yardage, We 513 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: started to have other penalties besides the ones that I 514 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: was ones that I was creating, and I was causing 515 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: problems for our football team. That's when I I think 516 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: I changed my attitude about responding to things that I 517 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: didn't like. And I think that's when I became a 518 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: better football player too, because I started thinking about applying 519 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: what I knew I should do, follow the teaching of 520 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: the coaching, and stay within the boundaries of the game. 521 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: And I think that changed. That changed for me, and 522 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: my change help helped the football team. Joe, I think 523 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: a lot of us go through this. It's like you 524 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: get to where you are from where you started, and 525 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned the school you know weren't very successful there. Yeah, 526 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: you mentioned Abner Haynes getting you interested in the University 527 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: of North Texas. But what got what got Texas? University 528 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: of North Texas maybe interested in you And why did 529 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,959 Speaker 1: you sigh? Did you have any other opportunities? I guess 530 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 1: is when I'm asking, well, oh, Mickey, Uh, I had 531 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: a visit to That was a guy that played for 532 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: the Houston Orleans UM. He was a rookie of the 533 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: Year for them back in sixty one sixty two. Somewhere 534 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: is the running back Sid Sid Blanks, I think that 535 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: was his name. He went to Texas A and I 536 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: and he came up to visit me and and take 537 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: me to Texas A and I on a visit. When 538 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,479 Speaker 1: I went down there, the then coach gils than Kids 539 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 1: I recall um took me over to see Eugene Upshaw. 540 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: Upshaw was supposed to take me around and show me 541 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: a good time. You know, in Kingsville it's not a 542 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: whole lot going on. So he gave me. He gave 543 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,479 Speaker 1: him five dollars and said, uh, you know, take Joe 544 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: around and you know, we can have a couple of 545 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: beers and just showing what we're about. And this was 546 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: in Eugene's dorm room. He was lying in the bed 547 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: there and Jeane rolled over. He took the five dollars, 548 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: put the five dollars on his on the headstand by 549 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: his bed, took out fifty cents and said, here, Joe, 550 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: go have a good time. You know. And I never 551 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: ever ever let ge forget that. I saw him many 552 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: many times, and I said, gee, we could have been teammates, 553 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: but you gave me fifty cents throughout them a good time. 554 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: And I'm guessing, if guy have my history straight, you 555 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: probably didn't have other options at that time. Not, no, no, 556 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: I didn't. I had. I had an opportunity to go 557 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: to to visit the University of Houston, and that visit 558 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: coincided with my um prom night, and so I declined 559 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: that and said we listen, get another night, and they didn't. 560 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: Another day and they didn't. They didn't give me another day. 561 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: And I had written North Texas and they invited me 562 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: up and and the gentleman that that my mother worked 563 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 1: for took me up to North Texas. And as North 564 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 1: Texas had, the coaching offices were in a small building 565 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: that was adjacent to that was in house and elementary school, 566 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: and it was run room and they had a window 567 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: in the door and I looked through the door and 568 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 1: there was three coaches, three coaches and the head coach 569 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: in the middle. I sew this and I looked through 570 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: there and I excused myself with the guy that had 571 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 1: brought me down. And I went through the med's room 572 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 1: and I had I wore jeans and I had a 573 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: sweatshirt cut off sleeves, and I went in the room 574 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: and I did push ups. I think I did about 575 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: twenty push ups. I think I kind of broke a 576 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: sweat and swoll up a little bit. And then I 577 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: went to the room and knocked on the door and 578 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 1: they let me in. And when I walked in the door, 579 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: they said, you want to scholarship. That was it. They 580 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: had never seen at that time. I was probably six 581 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: two and a half two hundred thirty five pounds and 582 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: I played middle linebacker in high school. And from that 583 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: he turns into having a statue out by the stadium. 584 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: How about that? And it was commemorated this year, right 585 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: just this fall, just a few weeks ago. That special? 586 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: That thatn't that indeed was special? And what took him 587 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: so long? That's what I want to ask. Well, you know, 588 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: things just had to fall into place. We had to 589 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: get the the proper administration and um the AD and 590 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. All of those people had to be 591 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: in place and the time, the time had had come 592 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: for something that maybe we had to make a change. 593 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: And in the in our processes, North Texas is going 594 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: through a change of ure. We're putting in a new 595 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 1: indoor workout facility, We're getting a baseball park. Uh increasing 596 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: um nutrition increasing uh student um what do you call that? 597 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the name. The student involvement 598 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: in the program. Student involvement in the program and been 599 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: increasing victories too. Yeolutely, he's doing a great job. But 600 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: it was about helping the student athletes become more productive 601 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: student citizens and productive students, and it was all centered 602 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: around helping athletes be better citizens. And you know, my 603 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 1: view is that that statue was a thank you for 604 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: all the athletes, the previous athletes that came to North 605 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: Texas that participated in sports, and it was about a 606 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: change and thought processes going forward that we're going to 607 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 1: do everything in our power to make it easier better 608 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: for us to be competitive in this environment that we're 609 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: playing in. All right, we'll have some questions from the 610 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: crowd here at the Cowboys Club. From being Joe Green 611 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: plus one of the greatest commercials in television history. When 612 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: we come back in just a moment, back to the 613 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: SWBC mortgage tell us Cowboys Legends Show broadcasting life from 614 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. Got guns 615 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: direct snap the Starbock. He's winding up. They got him. 616 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: There's a fumble of the ball of his hoof It 617 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: stills and the Cowboys fanished to recover out there own 618 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: PM and a half yard live. He had had quod 619 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,479 Speaker 1: protection that gave him put at the time. But Joe 620 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: green Flain, they broke through and fumbles. You recognize that voice. 621 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: Legend and we've got a legend on the Cowboys Legend 622 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: Show from the Pittsburgh Steelers. Mean, Joe Green, I want 623 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: to tell you about Fans United where you can find 624 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: game day gear bands United. He I can read it 625 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: here you eat my glasses. Why don't you read that 626 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: where a bill? I can't read it. We got enough, 627 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: don't have enough light up. Where you can find game 628 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: day gear for every Cowboy fan. Visit shop fans United 629 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: dot com to find a location nearest you. All right, 630 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,959 Speaker 1: you got something you want to talk with me? And well, yeah, 631 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: that play you say you sacked you caused the fumble 632 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: you got starbucket was I looked it up. It was 633 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: the second quarter, third and seventeen at the Cowboys twenty 634 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 1: four They did recover the fumble, but it was fourteen 635 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: fourteen at that time, and uh they lost eleven yards. See, 636 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, I fumble recovery. But I don't recall everyone 637 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: sacking you. Really maybe you hit well? Myron said it. 638 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: You remember Myron's voice, Remember he was quite a character. 639 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: Wasn't absolutely no doubt about it. Myron was the guy 640 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: that that uh started the terrible towel It wasn't really yes, yes, uh, 641 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: long time analyst for the Pittsburgh Steelers radio analyst. Yes, 642 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 1: Myron co Myron oom sports all right. Super Bowl thirteen 643 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,439 Speaker 1: of course won by the Steelers, but it was also 644 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 1: notable one of the great commercials in television history, which 645 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 1: featured Mean Joe Green. We're coming up on the fortieth 646 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: anniversary of that as Mean Joe Green winces here are you? 647 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: Are you amazed at the popularity of that? What was 648 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: one of the greatest spots ever without a doubt, bill, 649 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 1: without commercial, without a doubt. That's you know, Um, I 650 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: really really was nervous about doing that when they told 651 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: me about the Coca Cola commercial and they showed me 652 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: the script and it wasn't much. But you know, I'm 653 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: not I'm not the guy that's gonna get up in 654 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: front of people to start talking. And I'm definitely not 655 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: the guy that's gonna be on a movie or commercial 656 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 1: or be an actor being an actor. You did a 657 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: great job though, and you know mine Turney at the 658 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: time lessons when he told me, said, Joe, you can't 659 00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 1: say no to one of the largest corporations in the 660 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: world that's known all over and I thought about, let's said, well, 661 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, well, well let's try. It was supposed of 662 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,720 Speaker 1: being a half a day and it ended up being 663 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: three days. And you know, probably the majority of that 664 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: time was spent on me rehearsing and fumbling and belching 665 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: and a whole lot of things that the boy and 666 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: the commercial got his line right every time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 667 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't in the script. It wasn't in the script. 668 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: And I um the extras. There were people that we 669 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 1: were in a small community in New York, Pelham, New York, 670 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 1: and they had extras that were there that had been 671 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: daytime soap opera act and actresses, and they they they 672 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: shared with me that you played football and you take 673 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 1: instructions from from a coach, Well there's no difference in 674 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 1: us being actors taking instructions from a director. Do your 675 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: best you can, do the best you can and that 676 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: that helped me out a lot. And that's that's kind 677 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: of what I did. And I had no idea that 678 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 1: the commercial was gonna do do do what it did. 679 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: I first saw the commercial on UM base the baseball playoffs. 680 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: It was in October, and when I saw it, I 681 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: saw that that's not too bad, not too bad. And 682 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: when I got into the locker room the next morning, 683 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: I got an ovation. And that's not too bad because 684 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: if you know, even here, when you do commercials and 685 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: the guys do local spots, they're kind of they're kind 686 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,720 Speaker 1: of hockey like, you don't get on faces. People tease 687 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: you about them, and they didn't tease me, and it's 688 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: a classic. Yeah, I thought it was pretty good. And 689 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: then probably three weeks later, I got a case of 690 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: champagne from Coke and that's the only deal I knew 691 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: it was probably be probably pretty good for those of 692 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 1: you that maybe aren't over forty years old. Google it, Okay, 693 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 1: far it's on YouTube. Joe Green the commercial, it's a classic. 694 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: He tosses his jersey to the kid who hated him 695 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: a cook as he went off the up the ramp 696 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 1: to the locker room. Insured. Okay, as we wrap up, 697 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: we got one minute left here. It's been great having 698 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,760 Speaker 1: you on the on the show. I mean, Joe Green, 699 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: what as difficult it was as it was for us 700 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: cowboy fans back in the seventies. Uh, you know it. 701 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: It kind of eases the paint a little bit, right, 702 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 1: and it's a great human being, Like mean, Joe, find 703 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 1: out who's beating its exactly right. And uh, it's just 704 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: been a pleasure to hear go down memory lane with you, 705 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,320 Speaker 1: a native Texan at that, and being Joe Green. We 706 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: appreciate you, Joe. Thanks Joe, thank you so much. And 707 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna add this, I am so so very happy 708 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: that in Super Bowl thirteen they took the ball out 709 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: of total darsetse might have been a different story the 710 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: bottom line, right, all right? That does it for the 711 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,959 Speaker 1: Cowboys Legend Show for this week, Nicky, we got something 712 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 1: lined up next, remember, and it's Bill Bail beats Bill 713 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,320 Speaker 1: Bates the night before Thanksgiving thanks to mean Joe Green