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Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Tuesday, June third, twenty twenty five. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, were we're ready for

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Speaker 1: summer vacation. It's me and your man, NAMG Marcus Grant,

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Speaker 1: joined by Michael f Florio and Lakwan Jones. Happy June, Fellas.

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Speaker 1: This is this is the This is officially the off

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Speaker 1: season now right, this is when it actually, I mean

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Speaker 1: the off season is only six weeks long. It's basically

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Speaker 1: it's May and June. That's I'm gonna say. It's like

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Speaker 1: June first to like mid July like that, because because

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Speaker 1: like even May, like you're wrapping up the draft and

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Speaker 1: you got mini camps and like, this is it. This

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Speaker 1: is kind of thee I.

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Speaker 2: Did a show the other day and I was like,

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Speaker 2: if you never worked in an NFL office or anything,

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Speaker 2: June is the Jennis moment.

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Speaker 1: It is the like June boom It. It is the

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Speaker 1: absolute deadest month. But we sold youer on because there's

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Speaker 1: still content to be made. The machine never stops. It's

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Speaker 1: like it's like the Warden and shawshank. Nothing stops. That's

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Speaker 1: what it is. Uh So we're doing a fantasy running back.

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Speaker 1: What if we did quarterback what if last week. We'll

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Speaker 1: do running back what ifs this week.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, you've seen Shank, right, we have to make

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Speaker 2: it one of the movie.

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Speaker 1: It's not part of the theme, but you got to

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Speaker 1: watch the Shawshank.

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Speaker 2: It is all right, it's on the lists one of

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Speaker 2: the best movies ever made.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, man, me like, yeah, man, I hope

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Speaker 1: it is a dangerous thing. Hope is the best of things.

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Speaker 3: I quote that movie all so I would very happily

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Speaker 3: rewatch it.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's the guy for nothing to lose in Morgan Freeman,

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Speaker 4: Tim Robbins, nice, okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Andy Duframe, Andy Dufrayne, the man who

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Speaker 1: crawled through a river of bleep and came out clean

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Speaker 1: on the other Yes, all right, so we got dar

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Speaker 1: what ifs. We got our We're gonna do some draft prices, right.

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Speaker 1: I picked a few running backs and looked at their

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Speaker 1: current underdog best ball ADPs. We'll figure out whether we

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Speaker 1: think it's too high or too low. But I want

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Speaker 1: to start with some headlines, a little bit of hype

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Speaker 1: trainer smoke screen, right, because there's no actual news. This

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Speaker 1: is all just sort of people talking and we sort

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Speaker 1: of try to decide what that talking means. I saw

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Speaker 1: this one and immediately thought of you, Lakwan, Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: believes object estimate needs quote enough touches. Now, somebody on

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Speaker 1: this show might have been saying that Sean Payton is

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Speaker 1: not trustworthy when it comes to figuring out running back

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Speaker 1: touches and that sort of thing. Somebody else on this

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Speaker 1: show was willing to chop off his right arm to

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Speaker 1: draft RJ. Harvey. So, La, Kwan, where's your RJ Harvey? God?

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Speaker 4: Now, that is insane you put that, and that's exactly

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Speaker 4: what I said. I was like, this is insane for

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Speaker 4: him as a question. But I think Sempagne's a nice guy.

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Speaker 4: When he's talking about all the drama that he needs

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Speaker 4: enough touch, I think he's a nice guy. This is

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Speaker 4: nice talk about his running back that he drafted last year,

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Speaker 4: wanting to see more from on the field, which could be,

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Speaker 4: you know, one of the things that could be true.

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Speaker 4: He could get more touches than he did last year.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think this stops the RJ. Harvey space

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Speaker 4: shuttle going to the moon right now. So we're good

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Speaker 4: to go here.

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Speaker 1: You're still you're still on board? Huh?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely, there's nothing like shaking at this point. Now,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's June, it's official, it's it's redraft season.

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Speaker 4: I'm going all in on RJ.

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Speaker 3: Harvey and nothing's going to change.

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Speaker 1: Are you as confident Florio about this?

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Speaker 3: I don't think aldrick estimate is is legit.

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Speaker 2: Like I mean, remember last year, there was that one

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Speaker 2: week where they gave him like thirteen touches and semp

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Speaker 2: for weeks. Sean Payton was like rolling out the red

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Speaker 2: carpet for him, like we are going to get this

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Speaker 2: guy more involved. And then he had that game and

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Speaker 2: everyone in fantasy was like, Okay, it's finally happening.

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Speaker 3: I think he had two touches the week after that.

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Speaker 2: Like he he is and this isn't me being mean,

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Speaker 2: Like he is one of the slowest running backs in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. I think he's a better real life piece

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Speaker 2: than fantasy piece are the R J. Harvey is the

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Speaker 2: only real bad I will say though, like super late,

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Speaker 2: I'll throw some darts on Julia McLoughlin.

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Speaker 3: But that that's about it for this backfield.

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Speaker 1: For me, just telling you you guys are all gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm not getting overexposed to Harvey, though, I'm I will

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Speaker 2: be here's someone I wanted a couple of teams.

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Speaker 4: The middlest exposed you can ever be.

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Speaker 3: On r JR.

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Speaker 1: Get arrested for exposure on on r J Harvey, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean I saw the picture that he was on

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Speaker 1: Instagram or Twitter or whatever, like you know, like r J.

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Speaker 1: Harvey was like hanging out with Sean Payton's daughter and

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Speaker 1: she was like, all, you know, excited about him on

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Speaker 1: the team and what have you. And I know everybody

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Speaker 1: got I got excited and he got a little bit

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Speaker 1: of an ADP bump from that. Just telling you, man,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton is not He's not to be trusted when

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Speaker 1: it comes to his player usage, his running back usage.

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Speaker 1: I mean the quote, the quote is he's going to

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Speaker 1: get those opportunities. That's what he's saying about oddric Estima.

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Speaker 4: You could be talking about only in practice to ladies

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Speaker 4: and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: So Estimate is a back that requires enough touches. He's

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Speaker 1: going to get those opportunities. You know what.

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Speaker 3: You know what Sean Payton is.

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Speaker 2: I say this from experience having sadly my knicks just

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Speaker 2: lost to them. But he's like Rick Carlisle Man because

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Speaker 2: the entire leading up to the Knick series and during it,

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Speaker 2: he was like, the Knicks have some good players over there.

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Speaker 3: We really need to worry about precious Achua.

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Speaker 2: Though, like trying to get in the head of the

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Speaker 2: opponent and play their subpar players. Like I think that's

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Speaker 2: what Peyton is doing, right. He wants everyone to be ready.

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Speaker 3: For Audrick estimates, so that R. J. Harvey kind of

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Speaker 1: Okay, sure, I mean, look, I mean it could be right.

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Speaker 1: I mean when we were going through that example, I

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Speaker 1: top five ranked team and they're playing like Coastal Carolina

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Speaker 1: and every week Lou Holtz is like, well those Coastal

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Speaker 1: Carolina guys, man, you gotta watch out for him because

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Speaker 1: they can do this this and they're like, guys gonna

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Speaker 1: win by forty Like what are we doing here? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what are we talking about? What are we talking about?

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Speaker 1: So maybe maybe that's what Sean Payton is doing. But

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Speaker 1: I saw the headline and I immediately thought of U LQ.

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Speaker 1: Knowing how you feel j Harvey for sure more running

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Speaker 1: back talk. In fact, this just is an all running

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Speaker 1: back show. It just sort of developed that way. Brian

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Speaker 1: Robinson Junior, the Commanders say they feel comfortable running it

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Speaker 1: back with him as their lead running back. Look, you

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Speaker 1: had a decent season last year, you know, was splitting

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Speaker 1: time with Austin Eckler back there. Obviously the headliner in

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Speaker 1: that offense was Jaden Daniels and what he did. But

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Speaker 1: Robinson fourteen games, seven hundred and ninety nine rushing yards,

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Speaker 1: Brian Robinson's ceiling this year?

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Speaker 2: I think it's kind of similar to what it was

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Speaker 3: RB three, who he'll finish the year in that RB

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Speaker 2: Sall have some weeks where he scores like two touchdowns

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Speaker 2: and finishes as an RB one, and then he'll have

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Speaker 2: some really disappointing weeks. But I don't think Austin Eckler

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Speaker 2: is I look, his best fantasy days are behind him,

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Speaker 2: but I don't think he completely goes away like he

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Speaker 2: is a better third down, two minute drill back than

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Speaker 2: Brian Robinson in my opinion at least, and.

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Speaker 3: Those are very valuable.

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Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels is going to run. He's going to steel

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Speaker 2: yards and touchdowns away. I mean they were using him

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Speaker 2: by the goal line a lot last season, and then

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Speaker 2: on top of it, last year was the run heaviest

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Speaker 3: But as the year went on, it got more and

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Speaker 2: Like in the first half of the season Jayden Daniels

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Speaker 2: of the season, including the playoffs, that's what he was averaging.

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Speaker 2: So I expect a lot more throwing out of jad

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Speaker 2: and Daniels and the Commanders two this year, which to me,

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Speaker 2: Brian Robinson is more of a floor play.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the ceiling.

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Speaker 2: Is all that high, So I probably won't have him

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of running backs to bring upside in

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Speaker 2: my opinion, and that's what I'm targeting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Lakwan, you were a big Brian Robinson

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Speaker 1: fan last year. I'm not sure where you stand on

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Speaker 1: a point where is Austin Eckler even draftable? It seems

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Speaker 4: I think Austin Eckler is draftable this year just based

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Speaker 4: on what we saw last year with his limited role

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Speaker 4: in time. I mean, look, he averaged eleven fantasy points

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Speaker 4: per game, but so it did. Brian Robinson and Bloyo

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Speaker 4: hit the nail on the head. He's the better pass

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Speaker 4: catcher of the back through, the better third down back,

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Speaker 4: and I think Austin Eckler still had someone in the

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Speaker 4: it was kind of surprising he didn't get more touches

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Speaker 4: once they got closer to the goal line, being that

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Speaker 4: Brian Robinson kind of struggled to get those in. So

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Speaker 4: I honestly think when you're looking at Brian Robinson or

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Speaker 4: Austin Eckler, they're nothing more but than a flex play. Like,

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Speaker 4: you shouldn't be depending on these guys to be her

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Speaker 4: everyday starter because the most efficient and best runner they

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Speaker 4: you know, is going to dial it up more so

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Speaker 4: to Jayden Stretts rather than worrying about a running back

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Speaker 3: Of just serves their purpose. They do their job.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Brian Robinson can get you seven hundred yards,

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Speaker 4: but you know he's a very inefficient runner. So therefore

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Speaker 4: that's why you have Austin Eckler back there to be

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Speaker 4: the more efficient runner who ran for four point eight

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Speaker 4: yards per carry, but every opportunity got so he keeps

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Speaker 4: the offense on tasks. So it's more so of this

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Speaker 4: the cheaper option. It's going to be Austin Eckler for

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Speaker 4: me though, yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, he's definitely gonna be the cheaper option. I thought

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Speaker 1: when you were talking about it though, and you're like,

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Speaker 1: Austin Eckler average eleven Fantasy points per game, So did

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Speaker 1: Brian Robinson. That seems good for Austin Eckler and not

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Speaker 1: so good for Brian Robinson.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's actually terrible.

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Speaker 1: Like Eckler, we knew coming in was going to be

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Speaker 1: pass catching back, and the way he was used for

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Speaker 4: I didn't glad with him though, because if we look

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Speaker 3: Man, he's going to hit this new height.

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Speaker 4: And then you know, he takes the starting job and

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Speaker 3: Its kind of thing, it's been the same movie over

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's in the wrong era. Right, Like

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Speaker 3: At least you're you're a floor play.

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Speaker 2: And also it feels like Brian Robinson is dealing with

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Speaker 4: That que next to his name is actually nerve wracking

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Speaker 4: when you need him to do this week. And that's

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Speaker 4: why I'm out. I don't need that.

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Speaker 3: Type of headache, you know, So I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, his actual full name is Brian Robinson Junior Q.

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Speaker 1: would be interesting to see, you know. The other part

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Speaker 1: Lakwan that the commanders, Oh, they take a step back,

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Speaker 4: it's offense. And this is me being a Rams fan.

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Speaker 4: more so looking at how we look at this run game,

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Speaker 4: is it going to improve? Probably not, It's probably going

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Speaker 4: don't think there's going to be a defense that could

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Speaker 4: not really worried about the Jade and Daniels sophomore slump

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Speaker 3: The accusation was made.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully he's less than twenty five pounds than he was

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Speaker 4: last year or at the Super Bowl. But more so

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Speaker 4: looking at this offense, I don't know if we get

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think also with that's my MVP

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm I'm all in. I think they're gonna

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Speaker 3: And I know we could say like.

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Speaker 2: He kind of snuck up on some people, but like

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Speaker 2: the Eagles were very prepared for him in the NFC

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Speaker 2: Championship game and he was their toughest opponent. I would

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Speaker 2: say in the playoff, Like watch how you played them,

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Speaker 2: and then how Patrick Mahomes played them.

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Speaker 3: It was night and day. Toughest opponent in the playoffs

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Speaker 3: for you individuals. Well, you guys had a closer game.

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Speaker 3: I think better than Stafford.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, he played better than Stafford. The Rams had a

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Speaker 1: better team game, but Jayden Daniels ran up and down

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Speaker 4: I just had to check the tempt and to make

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Speaker 4: sure my rams an't getting disrespected in my face.

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Speaker 3: You guys really closest. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: Look, Marcus, the entire weekend on TikTok, I've been arguing

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Speaker 4: with forty nine ers fans. I mean it's been doing numbers. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Arguing on the internet is never going to end. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't care what platform it is. Who you're arguing with.

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Speaker 1: MVP the florio like real MVP or fantasy MVP, no

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Speaker 1: real MV like staying down Josh.

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Speaker 2: So if you if you asked me an MVP, who

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Speaker 2: because there's three players who have won it in Lamar,

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Speaker 2: Mahomes and Allen. If you ask me someone besides those three,

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Speaker 2: I think it's Jaden.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair, that's that's absolutely that's realistic. I love

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Speaker 1: that last bit of headlines here. Isaamh Checo says he

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Speaker 1: is bulking up. We got our first bso HL story

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Speaker 1: seven Isaiah Pachecko style. Uh, Florida. I know you were

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Speaker 1: the year. I'm bsohl does this move the needle for you?

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Speaker 3: Yes? One hundred, like I was already.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you guys are already joked on this pod, like

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Speaker 2: you could look at the team's cover the names and

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Speaker 2: like which, like you can tell which ones are mine? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And usually it's because Isaiah Pachecko is on that roster

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Speaker 2: and you're giving Like I was willing to take Pacheco

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Speaker 2: as a top five running back last year. Now you're

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Speaker 3: Right now, we're back to back in ADP.

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Speaker 2: It should not be that way because I understand how

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Speaker 2: a fractured fibula. And this article that you link Marcus

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Speaker 2: Tony Pollard has been fine since it looks right and everything.

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Speaker 2: It is one of those injuries that sucks the like

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Speaker 2: over time you get it back. Plus he talks in

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Speaker 3: He looked awful. I get it.

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Speaker 2: But if you think that is Isaiah Pacheco, like I

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Speaker 3: And then Elijah Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: To me is a good depth piece and is a

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Speaker 2: he is still going to be a top twenty running

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Speaker 2: so I'm all in on Pacheco.

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Speaker 1: Still, you're in on your fellow Jersey boy there. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the Kwan.

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Speaker 4: Might be a show that my fellow Jersey people may

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Speaker 3: Go man, make Jersey.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know if Pacheco gets back to that

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Speaker 4: just seems like he just wants to play the goal line.

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Speaker 4: we're left with in that playoff. Basically, two point eight

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Speaker 4: yards per carry like that performance is not something I

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Speaker 4: expect to carry on. I think his role just honestly changes.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to get those targets, so

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Speaker 4: he may be in the Brian Robinson bag of you know,

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Speaker 4: being a guy that gets you eight hundred and nine

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Speaker 1: That's mostly fair. I don't know that I'm worried about

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Speaker 3: Oh no, but I'm saying this now and I will.

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Speaker 1: RB three no, RB three, RB three.

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Speaker 3: Fact when the game, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. Look who's the.

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Speaker 4: Better pass catcher out of that entire backfield, Elijah Mitchell.

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Speaker 3: Blocking was an issue.

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Speaker 1: Man, you're in telling me the seventh round pick is

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Speaker 1: going to really come up.

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Speaker 3: Here more than past catching in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Man, that's the identity of what the Chiefs have been.

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Speaker 4: They want the pass catching back to be out there

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Speaker 4: running routes, helping out these wide receivers that they lack of. Honestly,

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Speaker 4: I mean Rashid Rice is the only wide receiver. I

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Speaker 4: for software, you know, jump to go leaper and higher

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Speaker 4: that's going to be a role that he's going to

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Speaker 4: be like taking away majority of the targets. These guys

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Speaker 1: If you want somebody just running those short emergency outlet routes.

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Speaker 1: He still got sky Moore, they still got Juju, they

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Speaker 1: just happens, checko.

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Speaker 3: Crazy things can happen.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it happens. I don't think Brishard Smith is the

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Speaker 2: That's just we heard it last year when samaj p

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Speaker 2: Ryan Son there and like everyone was like, oh, they

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Speaker 3: Pacheco was a three down back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but he's heavier now though, Well he's bulked up.

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Speaker 1: He's bs lhl he's back to his way. He's b

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Speaker 2: We'll see if he gets pulled up to like RB

438
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Speaker 2: fifteen or twenty okay, then but at.

439
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Speaker 3: RB twenty nine, like it it's free ups.

440
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Speaker 4: It might be that for a reason though, I'm just

441
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 4: saying if it took a year and a half, for

442
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Speaker 4: Paula to come back to be normal, like you said,

443
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 4: November of that season.

444
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Speaker 1: Why, I don't know, but.

445
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Speaker 3: He tore it.

446
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 2: He he heard it in January and it took till November.

447
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,879
Speaker 2: Pacheco heard it in September and then played again.

448
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 1: That's true. He didn't play again at the end of

449
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Speaker 1: the year.

450
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,400
Speaker 4: He didn't play well again. So he also could.

451
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 1: He also could run a four three seven. He wasn't

452
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 1: trying to stomp out worms every time held the ball

453
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 1: in his hands. Just just run, man, angry man, just

454
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 1: go all right, a little bit of a I call

455
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 1: it hype trainer, smoke train. We didn't actually say hype

456
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,199
Speaker 1: train or smoke screen, but you get the point of

457
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,920
Speaker 1: what we're trying to do here. It's take a break,

458
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 1: come back, or do some what ifs with some running

459
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Speaker 1: backs around the league. Stick around for more of the

460
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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Last week we did some quarterback

461
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 1: what ifs. I had five questions about different quarterbacks, about

462
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 1: what could happen and maybe we're not anticipating, and so

463
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Speaker 1: now felt like it'd be a good idea to do

464
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 1: the same thing with some running backs. So got five

465
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Speaker 1: different running backs here on the list of varying degrees

466
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Speaker 1: and excitement. It will kind of go through these first

467
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 1: one because Florio, I know that you'd like La Kwan

468
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 1: beefing with folks on TikTok. You have had some disagreements

469
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Speaker 1: with people on x Twitter whatever about Travis Etn. Obviously

470
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: he has underperformed the last couple of years. The Jaguars

471
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 1: trying to remake that backfield all together. You know, we've

472
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 1: seen Tank Bigsby in the past get opportunities. They drafted

473
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: bass Shall Teuton, who, by the way, was shot it

474
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 1: out by Bucky Brooks recently on the Move the Sticks podcast.

475
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 1: But through all of that, lareo, what if Travis Etn

476
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 1: is the RB one?

477
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Speaker 3: It's possible, like this is heading to a camp battle.

478
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: But yesterday Liam Cohen had some some glowing words for

479
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 2: Travis CTN and they kind of took the internet by storm.

480
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 2: So I tweeted, don't forget just last year Liam Cohen

481
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 2: walked into Tampa with an incumbent running back that went

482
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 2: for over fifteen hundred yards and nine touchdowns the year

483
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 2: prior and proceeded to hand the backfield to.

484
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Speaker 3: A Day three pick.

485
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 2: Everyone is like, well, Rashad White wasn't as good as

486
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,719
Speaker 2: his stats were the year, which Marcus you can attest.

487
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 2: I was like very vocal on the anti White training

488
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 2: and was like, he's not a good runner.

489
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 3: They're just throwing him the ball a bunch and all

490
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 3: of that. But I'm sorry I forgot where Travis Etn was.

491
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: Good last year because people were like, oh, well, Etn

492
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 2: is better than Rashaan White. You mean you mean the

493
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 2: Travis Etn who posted career lows in rushing yards, receiving yards,

494
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 2: scrimmage yards, scrimmage touchdowns, was negative in rush yard over

495
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 2: expectation and EPA below average and yards per carry, yards

496
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 2: before and after contact, and was just about league average

497
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: in miss tackles force. I'm sorry I forgot that that

498
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 2: guy was untouchable. I also forgot that he didn't lose

499
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 2: his job last year to a running back that is

500
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 2: still on the roster, And then everyone is like, well,

501
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 2: context matters, Bucky Irving is so much better than Twotlin.

502
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: I'm not disagreeing with that, but if you all thought

503
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 2: that a year ago, Bucky Irving wouldn't have gone undrafted

504
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 2: in the majority of or wouldn't have been a late

505
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: round dart throw in the majority of leagues and the

506
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 2: other thing like Bucky went fourth round in a week

507
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 2: running back class, to In went fourth round in a

508
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: strong running back class.

509
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 3: To me, if if Cohen likes the running back, he

510
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 3: is going to get the most out of him.

511
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: We have seen that already before. So I definitely think

512
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 2: this is coming to a camp battle. I think Bigsby,

513
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 2: Etn and two in are all in the mix. Heere,

514
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: but people are taking a June quote and slam dunking

515
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 2: get like Travis Etn is going to be the RB

516
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 2: one this year.

517
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 3: It is ridiculous. It is a reminder to go outside

518
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 3: and touch.

519
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: Some grass because we don't know anything right now, and

520
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 2: we're not going to know anything on this backfield till

521
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: July and August. But yeah, I do think the fact

522
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: that we've already seen Cohen come in and be like

523
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 2: I picked this running back in the fourth round, which,

524
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 2: by the way, the Jaguars didn't have a second round

525
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 2: pick this year, so that fourth round pick was very

526
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: valuable capital to them, and they don't have a first

527
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: next year either, Like it was that a valuable.

528
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 3: Capital and they used it on a running back.

529
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: So yes, I do think he is going to be

530
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 2: have a chance to steal the job and stuff and

531
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: the other thing. Do you expect him to come out

532
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 2: and be like, Travis Etn is awful and I don't

533
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: want him on his team, like my coach is gonna

534
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 2: do that when you have the potential of trading him or.

535
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 3: Something if it comes to that. So yeah, I'm sorry

536
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 3: people made way too much of this June.

537
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: Quote and I just thought it was kind of ridiculous.

538
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: Get some water, Get some water, take a break. Cook

539
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: absolutely cooked. I mean, so, lakwan. Is there a chance

540
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: that Liam Cohen is pulling a Sean Payton and just

541
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 1: trying to gas up his guy in Travis Etn and

542
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: maybe turn around and end up giving a big workload

543
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: to the rookie. Is that possible?

544
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 4: Yes, And and look, it wouldn't be a bad thing.

545
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 4: I mean, Rashon White looked good, you know, researched in

546
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 4: his opportunities. He was averaging fourteen Fantasy points per game

547
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 4: in the core of the fantasy regular season. So it's

548
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 4: like I could deal with that as a flex Like,

549
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 4: I'm okay with that, And that could be Travis Atn

550
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 4: as essential RB one of that backfield and still find

551
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 4: relevance in Tutan. So I think, you know, Travis et

552
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 4: in my server purchase as a better you know, pass catcher,

553
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 4: third down back kind of like what Rashad White was

554
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 4: last season, and Totin be the Bucky Ever in that

555
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 4: backfield that gets all the opportunities to be explosive and

556
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 4: to be elusive in open field and make some scoring opportunities.

557
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 4: Like I think this is a backfield that, honestly, if

558
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 4: you're too worried about or confused about Shape, take the

559
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 4: cheaper option. Take Tank because if Travis etn sucks, Tank

560
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: is going to go right into that role and then

561
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 4: you got the cheapest option there with no headaches.

562
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, if you're concerned about how this

563
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: thing is going to go, stay away from it just altogether.

564
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: That's kind of my opinion, because because what a piece

565
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: of it, Because the worst case is that all three

566
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: of these guys get opportunities. I'm looking at the usage

567
00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: from last year in Tampa. Rashad White fifty snaps, Bucky

568
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: Irving forty five percent of the snaps. I mean that

569
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: was pretty much just those two guys there. But I

570
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: mean you look at what they did in Jacksonville last

571
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: year in terms of handing out opportunities et And at

572
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: forty seven, Bigsby at about thirty five percent. Daranis Johnson

573
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: actually got a little bit of run in there as well,

574
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: nearly nearly twenty percent of the snaps for him. I'm

575
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,719
Speaker 1: that is my fear is that suddenly it's you know,

576
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: it's eats In at about forty, it's you know, it's

577
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: Tooting at about thirty five, it's Bigsby at about thirty,

578
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: and then we're all just miserable because that's just not

579
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: enough for any of them.

580
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 4: Would I would take the shot on Tank. I mean,

581
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 4: we saw Sean Tucker last year too find some explosive

582
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 4: plays and find opportunities as the third the third head

583
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: of that backfield. But we still were riding with Bucky,

584
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 4: you know, most weeks. So it's like, if it ends

585
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 4: up getting cut that way, I still want the cheapest option.

586
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 4: Where you saw Tank Bigsby take Etn's job last year,

587
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 4: and he could be the guy that could find fantasy

588
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 4: relevance at the cheapest costs on draft day, you also

589
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: have I.

590
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: Know he's the cheapest, but Bigsby is the one I

591
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: feel least interested in.

592
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 4: It was more explosive than Draves etn So it's like

593
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 4: he was, but all three are pretty explosive. He's just

594
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 4: the one that's a least passed catcher chops.

595
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like yeah.

596
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 2: That but this this has headache potentially written all over it,

597
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: So like I'm not People were like, you're a two instant,

598
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: and I'm like, am I like iget him in my draft,

599
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: Like I'm avoiding this backfield because of that reason that

600
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: I said, Like I think it could go to any

601
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: woman on the.

602
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 4: Sticks is why I just want a piece of it.

603
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,479
Speaker 4: If this was like the Patriots backfield, which has somewhat

604
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 4: of a similar situation with you know what they got

605
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 4: going on, I would stay away just being that that's

606
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 4: the biggest question mark, you know, I know they want

607
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 4: to run the ball. But with Liam Collens showing the

608
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,719
Speaker 4: proof in the pudding, like he's part of that. Thomas

609
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 4: Brown bringing cam Akers back into fantasy relevance on the

610
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 4: back end of his career leaving l A. He was

611
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 4: responsible for Bucky Evan being fantasy relevant as a guy

612
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 4: that went undrafted in most leagues.

613
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 3: So it's like I trust in Liam Cullen's vision when

614
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 3: it comes to these backfields.

615
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: I love by the way, uh he had to sneak.

616
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. I am surprised by the way,

617
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: Lakwan that you would ride for Tank Bigsby of this

618
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: group just because of how you feel about Kyen Williams

619
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: putting the ball on the ground by having four fumbles.

620
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: I mean he only lost one high four. He had

621
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: four fumbles last year, so he's trumbling for the Jags.

622
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: I don't care fumbles.

623
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 4: You don't care about the one points right negative.

624
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: Look, that's how I felt. I'm just saying, you're the

625
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: one who was like, you know, like ready to you know,

626
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: throw Kien Williams off the Hollywood sign because he can't

627
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: hold onto the.

628
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 4: Football personally as a Rams fan, and it hurts my

629
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 4: fantasy ross.

630
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's I was just trying to get clarity,

631
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: that's all. May the most interesting running backs, certainly of

632
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: the rookie class is Ashton Johnt. Everybody is big on him.

633
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: He has been kind of the undisputed, you know, first

634
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: pick in Dynasty rookie drafts this year. He's a guy

635
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: who's very much knocking on the door of the back

636
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: end of the first round in redraft leagues. And that's

637
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: the whole sort of thing. But lakwan, what if he's

638
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: just stuck behind a bad offensive line, like he's a

639
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: good player. What if the Raider offensive line is just

640
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: five turnstyles then.

641
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: What that would be real nasty work because gen Hi right.

642
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: Now, and like I do feel like I'm a little

643
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 4: more hesitant now of taking ash and gent how aggressive

644
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 4: some folks. Again, I've seen him as high as RB

645
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 4: three and like that will be coming the period of

646
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 4: if you're going Gibbs or if you're going genty. So

647
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 4: like with that in mind, if the old line is

648
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 4: still bad, Like, to be honest, it wasn't bad bad

649
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 4: last year, you know, like it's middle the pack asks

650
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 4: for pff if you're looking at the run blocking grade,

651
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: if you trust them, whatever the case may be, they

652
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 4: were middle of the pack. But when you look at

653
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 4: the guys they had back there running the ball, like

654
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: they had the suicide squad of like running back rooms

655
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 4: right now, the worst version of them. Like it was

656
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 4: just like, okay, I kind of get why we didn't

657
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 4: see the run game, you know, actually look good because

658
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 4: they had Alexander Madison in the mirror doors and a

659
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: second carry his home team and Zamir White, which was

660
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 4: a total fantasy fail. So it's like, when you insert

661
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 4: an Ashton Genty behind a decent middle of the pack

662
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 4: run blocking a line, I think he takes that and

663
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 4: elevates it to the next level. So hopefully, you know,

664
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 4: Aston Genty, his destiny is in his own hands of

665
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: if he's going to be a good running back behind

666
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 4: this mid tier a line.

667
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we all love him, right, and we've all

668
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: sort of conceded that right now where he's going. People

669
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: are drafting him at his absolute ceiling. But man, if

670
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: that whole line is bad and if the Raiders are

671
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: trailing and play from behind, you know, we could we

672
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: can get our hearts broken a little bit. I mean,

673
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,239
Speaker 1: I think that's that's why we're doing I mean, it'

674
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: why we're doing this. What is But it's in the

675
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: realm of possibilities, right I it is.

676
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: But I think we've seen enough of Pete Carroll and

677
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: especially the Pete Carroll genal Smith to know that his.

678
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: Games are going to come down to.

679
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: Like, it's just what Pete Carroll does. He keeps the

680
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: games close until the end, and he.

681
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: Tries to to pull it out late.

682
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: But like, I'm not really worried about I get the

683
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: old line concern, but like gent is such a physical

684
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: force and so hard to tackle that he's gonna break

685
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: a bunch of tackles.

686
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: And just be gone.

687
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: So like I haven't ranked as my RB four and

688
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 3: I'm I'm not too concerned about him.

689
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look again, I understand the draft prize.

690
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not going to get him in

691
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: a lot of leagues just because of where he's going.

692
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: It depends on where I am. I guess in the

693
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: draft order, because you're only gonna get one real shot

694
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: at him, and if you're not the right spot at

695
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: one oh five, you pull.

696
00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: On the trigger. No, no, no, that that's because I'm

697
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: taking wider.

698
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: Like it's not like I would take over him, but yeah,

699
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: I'm taking CD. I would take for me, he'd have

700
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: to be late first, because I'm if I could get

701
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: Molik Neighbors or Pooka Nakua in the middle of the first,

702
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: I'm doing it.

703
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, there is a difference between breaking tackles in

704
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: the Mountain West and breaking tackles in the AFC West.

705
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: That is true It's just absolutely true.

706
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: This first time getting wrapped up by Chris Jones is

707
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: gonna feel a little a little.

708
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: Bit different, right It's a little a little bit different

709
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: than when you're running through linebackers at Hawaii. I'm just saying,

710
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: just a little different in Los ane almost in San Diego,

711
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: like where what you're am I in? In Los Angeles.

712
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: Najie Harris now has a lightning both on the side

713
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: of his helmet. But we're big on a mari and Hampton.

714
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: He's another guy who's going early in drafts. A lot

715
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: of times he's going ahead of Naji Harris. But Floria,

716
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: what if Naji Harris pulls a JK. Dobbins, then what there's.

717
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: Gonna be a whole lot of sund O Marion Anton

718
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: managers and and that is my fear, Like, like you're

719
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: still paying in early drafts right now, you're getting h

720
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: Hampton's going is the RB fifteen, whereas Naji Harris is

721
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: an RB thirty five. Like I fully admit Hampton has

722
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: the more upside, he's more explosive and all of that.

723
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: But I don't think Naji Harris goes away. I think

724
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: that especially early on, I think he is going to

725
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: get a crack at being highly highly involved, So I

726
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: this is we're gonna talk about it more when it

727
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: comes to ADP and some running backs. But I don't

728
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: really find myself targeting Hampton at his ADP because I

729
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: just I love the running backs a couple of rounds

730
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: later and I don't have to pay that price with

731
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: the risk tied to it.

732
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: So plus, look, it's June and JK.

733
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: Dobbins is still out there, So like the closer we

734
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: get to the start of the season that the higher

735
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: the odds are in my opinion of him returning to LA.

736
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: I mean, what so then what happens then?

737
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: Kwan?

738
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: If JK. Dobbins does come back to the Chargers, then

739
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: it's a complete mess back there?

740
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, this would be a backfrow that falls on

741
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 4: that list that I will avoid because again, I mean,

742
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 4: Marion Hampton will be too pricey at that ADP and

743
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 4: then you don't want a technology because he falls in

744
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 4: that bag of a guy that's not going to go anywhere.

745
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 4: So it's like, I feel like the opportunities to just

746
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 4: be splitting hairs, and then you add JK. Dobbins, it's like,

747
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 4: all right, I'm out. I'm pulling back, like I just

748
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: don't need any parts of this backfield trying to figure

749
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 4: it out on a week to week basis.

750
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: I just yeah, that that's one that seems like a potent.

751
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 1: Here we go. We got the Marion Hampton shaking hands

752
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: with Jim Harbaugh, massive human, which Jim kind of he

753
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: isn't kind of Tom Cruisish in that picture there, like

754
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 1: he's a child.

755
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: He's a child in that picture.

756
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 4: Like I comped Amarin Hampton to Brock Lesner, and just

757
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 4: because like he's freakishly athletic to be the size that

758
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 4: he is, Like it just it's insane.

759
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: I mean from minds me And I know I've told

760
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: this story on the show before, but seeing Derrick Henry

761
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: just before his rookie year come through the NFL network

762
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: offices and I knew who he was, so I was like, oh,

763
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: it's Derek Henry. But if you if I didn't and

764
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: you had told me that he was the number one

765
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: edge rushing prospect in the draft, I would have been like, Okay, yeah, sure,

766
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: I mean that's how big he was. I would have

767
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: been like, okay, yeah, that makes sense. I get that, right.

768
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to compare situations like apples to apples.

769
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: But because I know the fantasy community hates Naji Harris,

770
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: but we saw Bijon Robinson and Jamier Gibbs not get

771
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: the volume we wanted them to get as rookies because

772
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: of Tyler Raws year and David Montgomery. Like that to

773
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 2: me feels like like if Naji Harris gets goal one work,

774
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: that is going to really hurt Hampton's fantasy value.

775
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I don't know, I feel.

776
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: Like this we're just pushing him up and just ignoring Naji,

777
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 2: And I don't think it's every year we're supposed to

778
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: we're supposed to put the guys up because of excitement

779
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: over off season T shirts and shorts slow motion?

780
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 3: Are we are getting set up for other league mates?

781
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: I mean?

782
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: Or can we? Can we learn from our past mistakes

783
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: and maybe avoid them in the future, Like maybe that's

784
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: what we should do, Maybe we should try to be better.

785
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: But you talked about the guys who prevented Bijeon and

786
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: Gibbs from getting volume. One of those two guys you

787
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: mentioned was actually hashtag good. Yeah, you know, like at

788
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: least at least you felt like, Okay, well, Jamior Gibbs

789
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: isn't getting touches, but Damn Montgomery is like balling like

790
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: years just like what are we doing here?

791
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 4: He's a pretty good backup running back. He's one of

792
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 4: the handcuffs that is valuable.

793
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: But he wasn't. We didn't want him. We didn't want

794
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: him taking touches from Jon.

795
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 4: Well you know why that happened. It was the old

796
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 4: Arthur Smith show, you know. And that's another about Caleb Johnson.

797
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: But we'll see, well, we'll get to Caleb Johnson little

798
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: bit later on the show, for sure. This one maybe

799
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: a little bit near and dear to my heart. Look

800
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: what if Gravonte Williams isn't totally washed?

801
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 4: You know what, Marcus, I will buy you at Davonte

802
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 4: Williams Jersey if he.

803
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 1: Is not washed, Right, I guess I'm not getting Williams Jersey.

804
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 4: I will get the tea and say happy Birthday, Merry Christmas,

805
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 4: and happy New Year, man, because that will be something

806
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 4: to see if he's not washed. Because I honestly don't

807
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: know what this backfield is because again you have Jayden Blue,

808
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 4: you have Miles Sanders. There there's still no confirm that

809
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 4: he's going to be the guy to take the rock

810
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 4: majority of the time, And like this kind of feels

811
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 4: like the season when Zeke returned back, where everybody's like, well,

812
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 4: somebody has to be the goal line back, somebody has

813
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 4: to be the third down back. Well this somebody in

814
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 4: this backfield is not there right now currently for me

815
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 4: to feel like he's going to be good. So that's

816
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 4: just where I'm at with it. Like, if he's not washed, hey, Marcus,

817
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 4: shut up to you.

818
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: I look, I don't think he may not be totally washed,

819
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: but he's probably seventy five percent washed at this point.

820
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, if he's not, he's going to be a big value.

821
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a huge value if he's not. But

822
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: I you know, I've been taking Jayden Blue in late

823
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: rounds where I can because I think he's going to

824
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: get a lot of opportunity. I think the big fear

825
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: is that somehow Miles Sanders no, no.

826
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 3: I will say, I will like Rico.

827
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: Rico Dada wasn't great last year, but he went for

828
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: a thousand yards and he was viable for Fantasy. And

829
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: then the Cowboys chose Javonte over Rico for the same

830
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 2: amount of money, like they signed identical contracts.

831
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Basy the Sean Hamer.

832
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 2: Running back is top thousand yards each of his two

833
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: years in Dallas. A thousand does not use a second

834
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: running back.

835
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 4: A thousand yard. That bar should be moved.

836
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, it definitely should be moved. But

837
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: for now, I mean it's a nice round number volume.

838
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 2: His RB won two hundred and thirty five or more

839
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: carries and at least forty nine targets in each of

840
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: the two years he was there.

841
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, dat stay healthy, which, by the way, I mean,

842
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: obviously the bar should be moved above a thousand yards.

843
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: But Brian Robinson has never run for eight hundred yards

844
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 3: in a season.

845
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: Oh seven ninety nine. Ooh, seven ninety nine is not

846
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: eight hundred. Seven ninety nine is not eight hundred. Someone's

847
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: never watched the prices, right, seriously, like seven ninety nine,

848
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: eight hundred wow, Dustin. Dustin Pedroia has a two to

849
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: ninety nine batting average. He did not hit three hundred

850
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: in his career. Just saying, I know.

851
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: That happened to Vicky Mantle too, Like he fell behind

852
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: it his last year and it's like, why did you

853
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: have to do this?

854
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:58,959
Speaker 1: Man? Yeah, just that's it. That's all. It is. Last one.

855
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: This is by the least exciting one. But we'll get

856
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: through this one.

857
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: For you.

858
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: What if Devin Singletary is still a thing in New York.

859
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be very sad because my most drafted running

860
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 2: Like I'm telling you, they're in that that twenty RB

861
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 2: twenty through thirty range. That's where all my most drafted

862
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: running backs are right now. You got DeAndre Swift, you

863
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: got Isaiah Pacheco, and you got Cam Skattabou. So like

864
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: if if Devin, because I'm already preparing for like Skataboo

865
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: to beat out Tracy as the year goes on. But

866
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: if Singletary is still involved, it's gonna be where it's

867
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: hard for any of them to be really more than

868
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: like a flex.

869
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: Option in fantasy.

870
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: In this offense. I mean, I think, lakwan, it's going

871
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: to be Tracy and Scataboo for the most part, at

872
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: least I think by the time we get later in

873
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: the season, right, I have this sense that at least

874
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: in the early part of the year, we're gonna see

875
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: Singletary get some opportunities and maybe eventually get phased out.

876
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: But there's a part of me that's worried that Devin

877
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: Singletary is gonna pop off for a couple of games

878
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: and the Giants and look around and be like, hey man,

879
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: maybe he deserves more touches like that. That is in

880
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: the realm of possibilities, right, That's that.

881
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 4: That does seem likely to happen, at least for the

882
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 4: beginning part of the season. And it's going to be

883
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 4: very frustrating as Cam Skataboo, you know, shareholder, because I'm

884
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: on the Scantaboo train. It's just that this Shine's team

885
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 4: does not look good for me to even like fully

886
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 4: get exposure on these guys.

887
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 3: So like, if.

888
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 4: Singletary is still a thing, that means, you know, things

889
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 4: aren't going right with Skataboo to be like an RB

890
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 4: one that everybody wants him to be. And with Tracy,

891
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 4: I think he did a very good job with his

892
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 4: opportunities last year, so I know for a fact that

893
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 4: he ain't going nowhere. I mean, he was very great

894
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 4: in the passing game as well. So it's one of

895
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 4: those things that you have to gamble with the backfield.

896
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 4: This will be in that bag of I'm fading at.

897
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 3: All costs with these backfields though.

898
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: No, I mean I.

899
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: Thought I thought never benched, never benched Singletary before.

900
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I thought Tyrol Racy was pretty good last year,

901
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: and I was glad to see him get an expanded

902
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: role as the season went on, and I think it's

903
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: going to be I think he gets first crack at

904
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: things and then it becomes a battle between Singletary and

905
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: Scataboo to see who's sort of the RB two there.

906
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: I'd like to believe that by mid season Scataboo has

907
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: taken that over, but you know, not impossible.

908
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: I think Skataboo is better than Tracy.

909
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: That's a that's that's I don't know arguing.

910
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. I can't say.

911
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's at least worth arguing. I think, yeah,

912
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: not on this episode.

913
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: I think Tracy's a really good NFL RB two, all right,

914
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a one.

915
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: Okay, No, that's that's one we should dive into. Not

916
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: not on this episode, but what we can, we can

917
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: definitely get into it. We are are not done take

918
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: a quick break. We're gonna come back do a little

919
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: bit of draft prices. Right since we talked about you know,

920
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: whether or not we should go on the prices right

921
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: or what have you? You know, closest to a DP

922
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: without going over When this screwdriver off my desk or

923
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: something I don't know, stick around, we're working out with

924
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: more on the NFL Fantasy Football screwdriver I don't know,

925
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: so I got right here, screwd.

926
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 3: He fix it up?

927
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: Will We're right back As we round out the show,

928
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: this whole running Back edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

929
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: Figured I'd go through some underdog ADPs, pick out a

930
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: few running backs, and we can determine whether or not

931
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: the draft price is right, if the ADP is too

932
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: high or too low. Uh no, Bob Barker, please spay

933
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: new to your pets, all that whole stuff. One star

934
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: with Jonathan Taylor because we did I think our last

935
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: mock draft. Someone drafted him and in the chat was like,

936
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: why is everybody of a villy voiding Jonathan Taylor? Like

937
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: what's wrong with him? And we were kind of like,

938
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, like could be good, could be not good,

939
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: depends on the quarterback situation. Right now, he is the

940
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: two to eight eighth pick in the second round. That

941
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: is the average spot of where he is going in

942
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: Bestball drafts. Lakwan uh is he is he a Jersey guy.

943
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor, He's a Jersey guy. And I said earlier,

944
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 4: you know they might not like me on this one.

945
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: I would say, I mean, because you already you know,

946
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: you already chopped the legs out from underneath isaiaha Checo.

947
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: So too eight, too high or too low? For JT.

948
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 4: That's too high, man, because like, well, we look at

949
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 4: the situation, right he's still going to have the up

950
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 4: and down season with the quarterback situation, they're going to

951
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 4: stack the box.

952
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: And then we look at last season.

953
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 4: I mean, look, the last three games is where he

954
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 4: got five hundred yards and half of his scores even recorded.

955
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 4: For him to be such a high fantasy value right now,

956
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 4: when we look at the core of this, like thirteen games,

957
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 4: that's all I need from a player. He played ten

958
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 4: of them and he was RB nineteen. So why am

959
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 4: I paying that two to eight price for him win

960
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 4: three seasons in a row. He's face injury, his quarterback

961
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 4: situation hasn't changed, and it's not going to be a

962
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 4: great situation there where you grab him as your RB one.

963
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 4: But most of the season. When you're climbing to get

964
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 4: to the fantasy playoffs, he's not contributing or helping you

965
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 4: get to the fantasy place. So that's my biggest thing

966
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 4: with him, where I don't look at the fourteen hundred

967
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: yards to something he earned the entire season. Get two

968
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 4: hundred yards against the freaking.

969
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: What was it?

970
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 3: He was tightens?

971
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 4: Like, come on, like, these are all bad defenses and

972
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 4: we account for that. I think we need to stop

973
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 4: doing that too. For when we take the fantasy playoffs

974
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 4: and account for some of these players that missed time

975
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 4: during the regular season, those managers remember those games he

976
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 4: didn't play. They remember the sorry games of him putting

977
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 4: up RBI two or less numbers going into week ten.

978
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 4: So it's like, what are we doing here? Why are

979
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 4: we pumping him up for where that's not guaranteed to

980
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 4: even start off or be continuous through the season. If

981
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 4: we're three seasons in a row of him facing injuries

982
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 4: to that ankle.

983
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: So I can't mention that he average one hundred and

984
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: fifty six rushing yards per game weeks fourteen through eighteen.

985
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 4: No, because you probably didn't make the playoffs because it

986
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 4: first hard than what it is now, so it doesn't

987
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 4: make sense.

988
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: I mean, where are you at on too eight for JT. Florio.

989
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: I mean I originally was like, I look, I'm not

990
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: saying I have AIG. Time he's there, I'm taking him.

991
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 2: But I think that's an appropriate price for him because

992
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 2: his upside is higher than RB eight. We've seen that before,

993
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: and I agree with a lot of what LQ said.

994
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 3: The good thing is he's gonna.

995
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,959
Speaker 2: Play that same Titans defense twice this year. It's gonna

996
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: play the Jags twice this year who he ate against.

997
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 2: But also, like one, I gotta look at his numbers

998
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: with Anthony Richardson, but I'm pretty sure they're good because

999
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: like in the first five games of the season for him,

1000
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: he topped eighty eight rushing yards in all but one

1001
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: in one hundred and three of those five games. So

1002
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: I think his numbers with Anthony Richardson are good. And

1003
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 2: we always hear about that, right when you get a

1004
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 2: running QB, it helps open the blains and stuff. But

1005
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 2: he gets Daniel Jones, he could catch a lot of

1006
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: passes there because Daniel Jones is a dump off type

1007
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks.

1008
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: So I think it could.

1009
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: Look very different depending on how the QB is, but

1010
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: I still do think Jonathan Taylor rings enough upside where,

1011
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 2: like if I start my draft with a wide receiver

1012
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: in the early portion of round one, if I could

1013
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 2: have a pick between like Jonathan Taylor Josh Jacobs at

1014
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: the end of round two, early round three, like, I'm

1015
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: I'm in on that.

1016
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 3: Because they have the like. To me, the floor in

1017
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: the upside is high enough where if I could.

1018
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 2: Get that as my RB one without taking one in

1019
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: the first round, I'm feeling pretty good about that.

1020
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it at too eight. But I would

1021
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: also make sure I'm backing it up with another running

1022
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: back on the back I'm.

1023
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 3: Getting one, I don't want to double tap you.

1024
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm getting one in the first round and I'm taking

1025
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: Taylor and as my RB two, or I'm taking Taylor

1026
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 1: and I'm getting another one right behind him.

1027
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 4: I like that Rather if you get if you get

1028
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 4: Gibbs or Barkley in round one and then at JT,

1029
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 4: that's fine.

1030
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: If I'm getting Gibbs in round one, I'm probably not

1031
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: taking another running back for a few rounds.

1032
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 4: That's how I That's why I said double tapping in

1033
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 4: that second and third you're missing out on so much

1034
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 4: good value in that third round when it comes to

1035
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 4: the wide receivers, like Garrett Wilson is falling to the

1036
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 4: early third round tear Lauren DJ Moore, I rather take

1037
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 4: those high all those guys over.

1038
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: We're back in on Garrett Wilson. Now, I thought we

1039
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: were all out on Garrett.

1040
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: I like the other guys more.

1041
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I thought we were out on Garrett Wilson.

1042
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: When did that change?

1043
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 4: I think it changed because he's also going like wide

1044
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 4: receiver thirteen, Like we never get a discount.

1045
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 3: On Gara Wolfson.

1046
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: No, I think there's a rule.

1047
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: But also I'm looking at his game log. Now, Jonathan

1048
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: Taylor had one, two, three, four games last year where

1049
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: he ran for less than eighty eight yards, like he

1050
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 2: was still a very effective runner.

1051
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: Yeah you hear. He was not a first round running

1052
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: back in terms of production last year. He's week to

1053
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: week production, right, But late second round, I actually think it's.

1054
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 3: Okay seor Jonathan Taylor. See how I would take Taylor

1055
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 3: over Priese Hall.

1056
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: But CMC over yeah yeahmc over over all those guys like.

1057
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 3: The like over most games over eighty eight. That's a

1058
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: safe floor.

1059
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 2: And then we saw what his ceiling was at the

1060
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: end of the year, which I'm not expecting that over

1061
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: sixteen games. But he can go for two hundred any week,

1062
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: So he's not a terrible pick. Like I want to

1063
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: make that clear. He's not a terrible pick there.

1064
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,479
Speaker 4: I just would rather different options there, Like I don't

1065
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 4: feel like he is priced value there where you have

1066
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 4: Devon h chan Kiroen Breeze see him. See these are

1067
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 4: other running backs going in that range and tier where

1068
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 4: I would rather go that route.

1069
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 2: I think we all kind of feel the same, Like

1070
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: none of us are saying he's a slam dunk pick there,

1071
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: but we're all saying he's like an appropriate price.

1072
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's it's too high.

1073
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it's too high then.

1074
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: All right, Oh okay, okay, that's fair too. I can

1075
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: go with that one. Also, I just I think I'm

1076
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: avoiding the Colts offense for the most part this year.

1077
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, he's the only Colt Goshdowns No at.

1078
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: The right price like later in drafts, but even that,

1079
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:53,959
Speaker 1: like if.

1080
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: It's Daniel Jones, but also also.

1081
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: Josh Down, I'm drifting. He was like a third or

1082
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: fourth wide receiver, Like that's how I'm drafting Josh Downs. Okay, yeah,

1083
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: that one longer than I thought. Joe Mixon at the

1084
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: five to five fifth pick and the fifth round Florida

1085
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 1: too high or too low?

1086
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 3: Me and ol Q might spar on this one. I'm

1087
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 3: out on Joe Mixon.

1088
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: Look, I understand how good he was last season, but

1089
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 2: my approach is always I would rather be a year

1090
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: early than a year late on a player. And he

1091
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 2: is about to be twenty nine years old. He has

1092
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: a lot of wear and tear on the tires, he

1093
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: has an injury history in the NFL, and last year

1094
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: was a weird year. History is always like you don't

1095
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: want to take an aging running back that changes teams.

1096
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: And then last year they were all good, but that

1097
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 2: old line got worse. And even more than that, it's

1098
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 2: it's the price, right, Like I could take Joe Mixon

1099
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 2: as the RBS sixteen, but I keep saying it man,

1100
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 2: Like in the twenties, there's there's Tremon Henderson, there's James Connor,

1101
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: there's Caleb Johnson, DeAndre Swift, Pacheco, Like, I would rather

1102
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: wait two rounds and get those guys and take a

1103
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: wide receiver. Where I have to take Joe Mixon rather

1104
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: than than take Mixing there and then have to deal

1105
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: with the later wide.

1106
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 3: Receivers later on.

1107
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: All right, so I'm guessing Lekwan, you're cool.

1108
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 4: With it at five to five, Yes, like this is

1109
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 4: what I honestly did builds where he's my RB one,

1110
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 4: and I say that just based on what we saw

1111
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 4: last season. I mean, look again, in those ten games,

1112
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 4: he was RB two behind Saquon Barkley, averaging twenty one

1113
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 4: Fantasy points per game in the first fourteen weeks. And again,

1114
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 4: I know he missed a couple of games, but the

1115
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 4: injury history has always been there. With Mixing, he's never

1116
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 4: been an efficient runner, and like Florio said, his narrative

1117
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 4: was more so every single year since twenty twenty one

1118
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 4: was I'd rather be a year earlier than late getting

1119
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 4: out on Mixing, and he's shown and improved us every

1120
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 4: single season he could be in RB one. So like

1121
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 4: him going at this five to five, Yeah, I'm in.

1122
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 4: I'm on it, man, because again, who's there threatening those targets?

1123
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 3: What he marks?

1124
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear it. It's Joe Mixon. Joe

1125
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 4: Mixon last season still was explosive, still was the guy

1126
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 4: to get the ball in his hands when it comes

1127
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 4: to the goal line. There's nothing that really worries me

1128
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 4: about Joe Mixon other than hell. But other than that,

1129
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 4: he's still a running back that's going to get two

1130
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,479
Speaker 4: hundred and seventy touches and three hundred yards since twenty

1131
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 4: twenty one. Think he's the only running back that done

1132
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 4: that four times.

1133
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: You know what threatens you know what threatens Joe Mixon's targets.

1134
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 1: The seventeen wide receivers the Texas have on their roster.

1135
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: That's what threatening those targets. I mean, there's I actually

1136
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it at five to five, Like, I

1137
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: think that's fine. Whereas you know, I could I could

1138
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: make the argument that Jonathan Taylor at to eight is

1139
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: maybe a touch high. I think Joe Mixon is fine

1140
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: at five to five, and I'm thinking of it just

1141
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: because of the way I tend to build rosters right

1142
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 1: where I may get a good, a really good running

1143
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: back in round one, I'll probably get a couple of

1144
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: wide receivers, maybe a tight end and or QB depending

1145
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: on how things shake out. But about around right round five,

1146
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: round six, I'm probably looking to come back to the

1147
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: running back position again, So Joe Mixon is my RB two.

1148
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that at five to five.

1149
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: Helly, I just I agree with the wid receiver point

1150
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: because like, let's let's like they lost Nico Collins for

1151
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 2: a good stretch, Stefan Diggs was out, Tank Dell was out,

1152
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 2: so like, I think that did kind of prop his

1153
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 2: target volume up. Plus he was the opposite of John

1154
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,479
Speaker 2: and Taylor. He was awful to find him onto the season, all.

1155
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 4: Right, all right, but he still helped me get to

1156
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 4: a championship when the core of the fantasy season mattered.

1157
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 4: I remembered those weeks. Man, I'm I'm a guy that

1158
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 4: just he helped.

1159
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 3: You get to the playoffs. He did not help you

1160
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 3: get to the champions So all I need, that's fine.

1161
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: He was giving you twenty twenty three yards, twenty six

1162
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 2: yards in those.

1163
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 4: Last two games, don't count. They were going to the playoffs.

1164
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 4: Show they lowered his you know, touchout.

1165
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: For the fantast squad.

1166
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 2: Like Week fifteen, first week of the playoffs, he ran

1167
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: for twenty three yards.

1168
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 4: Okay, what about the checko, well, hurt, I don't.

1169
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: Care, man. The day I die.

1170
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,479
Speaker 1: Okay, this one. I feel like this one might be easy.

1171
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 1: I think we might all agree on this one, Alan

1172
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: Kamara the six to one that I don't know the one.

1173
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess because there's nothing else there, but

1174
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: everybody knows there's nothing else there that's that feels way high.

1175
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 3: To me, it is a little high.

1176
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 4: And I understand the darkness and fears of getting any

1177
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 4: player in New Orleans right now, but he would have

1178
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 4: to really be like my RB two slash flex like

1179
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 4: that would have to be a decision how I have

1180
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 4: to make based on the first five rounds of how

1181
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 4: I built. But again, who's going to catch the ball.

1182
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 4: It's going to be Adam Kamara. I mean, like the

1183
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 4: opportunity is there for him. But how good are these

1184
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 4: value of these touches are going to be with this offense?

1185
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 3: Like that's the biggest question.

1186
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: Uh, what if what if Tyler I know we're not

1187
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: doing quarterback what is But what if Tyler shuck is

1188
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: just like bleeping chrys Olave is down there somewhere, Like

1189
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: what if he turns into that guy Florio? Then is

1190
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: not getting those targets anymore?

1191
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was the thing I wrote about Chuck

1192
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: when I watched him, was like, I don't think he

1193
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: has a gunslinger arm, but he thinks he does.

1194
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: He's like he's gonna fire that thing off. So yeah,

1195
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 3: like me.

1196
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 2: And that's the thing when it comes to running back targets,

1197
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 2: like it's almost, in my opinion at least, it's almost

1198
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: more of a quarterback stat than it is a running

1199
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: back stat because you need to have a quarterback willing

1200
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 2: to dump the ball off to you. Yeah, and I

1201
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: know Kamara has been awesome at that and stuff, but

1202
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 2: Derek Carr does dump the ball off at one of

1203
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 2: the highest rates. Plus it's a new system, he's gonna

1204
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: be thirty. The Saints could just be awful offensively. Like,

1205
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 2: I think his price makes sense. I'm just never really

1206
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 2: the person paying.

1207
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I guess I'm out on the Colts.

1208
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 1: I'm also very out on the Saints. Yeah, be out

1209
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: on bad offenses. It's one of the best things you

1210
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: can you know.

1211
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 4: Sometimes sometimes it's Kamara is just at where he's going

1212
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 4: in the draft. It makes me kind of like maybe

1213
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 4: I should think other options here there.

1214
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: I mean, look, there are some names that I just

1215
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: look at them and I'm like I can't do it,

1216
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: Like maybe I'm wrong, but I'm I'm not going to

1217
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: take the chance. And Alvin Kamara right now is one

1218
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: of those where like, hey, look, maybe there is something

1219
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: left and maybe they figure out how to get him

1220
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: to a decent number this year. I'm not willing to

1221
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:22,479
Speaker 1: take the risk.

1222
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

1223
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 4: It's one of those things I have to be in

1224
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 4: the situation to see it happen if I'm going to

1225
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 4: do it or not.

1226
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: Let's say you're the situation where you have the ninth

1227
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: pick and the seventh round, Lakwan and Caleb Johnson is

1228
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: right there because that is his ADP, because you have

1229
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: you've come around on Caleb right, because you know, for

1230
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: a while you were saying he was like a human

1231
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: sleep aid when you were watching his tape, and then

1232
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: he goes to Pittsburgh and you're like, all right, I

1233
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: think I can kind of get down with this. So

1234
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, late seventh round, are you okay with Caleb

1235
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:00,479
Speaker 1: Johns in there?

1236
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 4: I'll be sleeping because no, he's not one of the

1237
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 4: rookies I'm looking for. You know, the high ceiling. You

1238
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 4: know that a lot of other guys that I rather

1239
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 4: take in that seventh rownd on that back end, it

1240
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 4: just feels like a wide receiver. You know, I will

1241
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 4: get the Josh Downs, I'll get the Jalen mcmillans, I'll

1242
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 4: get you know, guys that I think can actually have

1243
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 4: a high ceiling as a wide receiver three rather than

1244
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 4: Caleb Johnson or Arthur Smith that were led to trust

1245
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 4: with Arthur Smith on the sticks that he won't pull

1246
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 4: a beje On and Tyler Aljier with Jalen Moorean and

1247
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 4: Caleb Johnson. So that's one of those things that you know,

1248
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 4: I just feel like, Nope.

1249
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 3: Not not interested. I'm good, he's way too high right now.

1250
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: If they find a quarterback between now and training camp,

1251
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: does that change how you might do first Florida? I mean,

1252
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: are you okay with it? And if not, does does

1253
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback addition maybe change.

1254
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: That I'm operating as if Aaron Rodgers is these Steelers quarterbacks?

1255
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: So if you then I have to change things because yeah,

1256
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: but this is another one of those prices. Like I

1257
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: like Caleb Johnson a lot, I'm okay with his price.

1258
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1259
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: It's not a slam dunk though, because like I like

1260
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift Moore at that price because Ben Johnson like

1261
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 2: that being one hundred percent honest, that's the biggest thing.

1262
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 3: But I looked into this yesterday.

1263
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: Naji Harris on first and second down last year, sixty

1264
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 2: percent of the snaps two hundred and fifty one carries

1265
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: forty three targets, Like he dominated usage. That's more than

1266
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: double the amount of carries as Warren and more targets

1267
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 2: than him. And on third down it was more Warren,

1268
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: but on third down they were running the quarterbacks like So,

1269
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: I know that won't be the case this year, but

1270
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: I could see Caleb playing that nause role in getting

1271
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: all of the early down work and getting the short

1272
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 2: yardage work.

1273
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 3: And he's more.

1274
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,959
Speaker 2: Explosive, which could lead to big plays. So I want

1275
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 2: some shares of Caleb Johnson. I don't I'm not gonna

1276
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: like be overexposed, but I definitely want him on a

1277
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 2: couple of my teams.

1278
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think right about there. Actually, i'd like

1279
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: I'd prefer to wait if I could wait around yeah,

1280
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: maybe two, Like, I think i'd feel a little bit

1281
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: better about it. But I'm willing to take us some

1282
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: shots on Caleb Johnson regardless regardless of who the quarterback is. Yeah,

1283
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: but volume, you'll get that volume and.

1284
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,439
Speaker 3: Behind the line of scrimmage with a high stuff rate.

1285
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 3: But we're not going to say anything about that.

1286
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, you're you're you're like singing the praises

1287
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: of Tank Bigsby, Like what are we doing?

1288
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 4: What what? I was not singing the praises? He is

1289
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 4: not part of the RB three group. It's just saying,

1290
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 4: if you want part of that backfield, I'll take the

1291
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 4: cheapest option.

1292
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 3: That's about it.

1293
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: Okay.

1294
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: If Johnson was his team's RB three though, yeah, right,

1295
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 2: Like would let's say let's let's see maybe let's say

1296
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 2: let's say the our lads, you know, depth chart was

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Speaker 2: a little bit different.

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00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: Had Jay Warren one, Kenneth gain Well two, and then

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Speaker 1: Caleb Johnson three, then Laquality all about that life.

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Speaker 5: Wait, so are you in on Gainwell on anything that's

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01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 5: going on? And Trey Sermons like just behind him on

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01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 5: the depth charte.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was the Colts RB three. Uh, that

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01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 4: is DJ Giddens at this point, that is currently Riley Leonard.

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Speaker 1: Sorry it's yeah, sorry, that's that's QB. I was look

1306
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: at the wrong line. DJ Giddens is yes, I am

1307
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: in on Giddens.

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01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 2: I am inde on Giddens as well as yes, let's.

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01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 3: Go the RB three crew.

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01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: Let's go really so like you guys are on Jonathan Taylor,

1311
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: but you're in on DJ Giddons. Make it makes sense after.

1312
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 2: I'm in on Giddens as like a dart throw at

1313
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 2: the end of Best Ball in case Taylor miss his.

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Speaker 3: Time, which you will. It's been three years in a row,

1315
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 3: got it?

1316
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 2: Which so so if it was Khalil Herbert, would you

1317
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: be in on him?

1318
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 4: I was on Khalil last year and I got smacked

1319
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 4: and you got burned on that he fumbled the ball

1320
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 4: his first touch, man, Like, what are we doing?

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01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? Fummos, All right, well there yo, that's our running

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01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 1: back show. We'll come back. Well, we'll do have cheat

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01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: sheet on Thursday. We'll be talking about Extraction two after

1324
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: we extraction last week. So Tyler Rake back at it

1325
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: again for a second Convision three. I have not seen

1326
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: a date on three, just twenty twenty five, which we

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01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: are about.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, hey, we got a date for Stranger Things. Finally,

1329
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: after the youngest one of them graduated high school.

1330
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean, like those kids are all like they all

1331
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: have kids of their own now at this point. So

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Speaker 1: Eleven is legit married, yes, like, yes, Eleven is married.

1333
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: I think the guy who played Joe is literally like

1334
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: thirty years old now Joe, he is Joe Steve Mike

1335
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: guy plays Steve. Steve is thirty three years old.

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01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 2: Wow.

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01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 3: Yeah that and euphoric. It's like the clocks ran.

1338
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: Up on Yeah.

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01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 4: Man, man, they took my boy out.

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01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: Man, I am I never I missed it when it

1341
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: was actually on, and then I tried to go back

1342
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: and watch it, and I felt uncomfortable because right because

1343
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm I'm approaching middle age and I'm watching

1344
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: high school students do the things that they're doing in

1345
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: that show. And I felt uncomfortable, and I'm like, I

1346
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: don't think this show is for me.

1347
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 4: I just think there's no way that we're in high school. No,

1348
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 4: it's just like this show is.

1349
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 3: Just over the top. Oh my god.

1350
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: All right, So anyway, Thursday is cheat Sheet. We'll do

1351
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: extraction too, we'll do some other stuff. We'll be back

1352
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: with you next Tuesday. Maybe we'll do some mock draft

1353
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: stuff or maybe we'll do some wide receiver what ifs.

1354
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll figure all that out as we

1355
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: come along. You know, if you was into the show,

1356
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, we sort of come up with things on

1357
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: the fly here. It's just kind of how we operate. Anyway,

1358
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: I'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy

1359
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: Football Podcast. They happy, save and healthy, do good and

1360
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 1: live well, Enjoy the is everybody. We will talk to

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01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: you again on Thursday, wh